Happy to have you around! I should mention this Green dial variant is sharper than it's blue and red dialed brethren, I think it has to do with the gold indices. I've never been a big fan of the previous cocktail time- they were lacking some fun colors, this changes things for me. Gorgeous is the right word! All in all I am 100% with you. Seiko is really packing all they can at this price
This watch is so gorgeous that I went way beyond my personal budget limit and got it. I couldn't say no. I must say the dial is incredible. A video does not do it justice. I agree that the strap is awful both in colour and comfort. The clasp digs in to my wrist and that was a deal breaker. I've replaced it with a matte brown traditional strap and it is now perfect in my eyes.
It was a tough choice between this and the SRPE43J1 which is the blue version. Ultimately I went with the blue version, but all of the different colors in this model are absolutely gorgeous and stunning. Great review and love your video lighting. It really highlights that beautiful and intricate dial.
Just bought the green dial one, it's a beautiful timepiece considering the price. The red and blue one are also beautiful but I chose the green one eventually
I love it on the leather nato. People will be sure to disagree with me but I see no reason this watch couldn’t be worn both casually or with formal attire.
To everybody complaining about hardlex vs sapphire: hardlex has a rating of 8 on Mohs scale and Sapphire has a rating of 9 so sapphire is not leaps and bounds ahead but is more likely to shatter from impacts. Hardlex is still much better than standard mineral glass.
Exactly, however people like to criticise in order to show they are a true watch connoisseur who knows what they are talking about. If your watch is hitting things so hard it is shattering the crystal, you have bigger things to worry about than whether it's hardlex or sapphire.
Anything can be broken and scratched if you're careless enough. Of course accidents happen in everyday life, but people talk of sapphire as an absolute must as if it can resist nuclear impacts.
@@Fjerid sapphire doesn't scratch. Mineral scratches easily but is tougher than sapphire. Acrylic is the most scratch-prone but the toughest (also buffing scratches from acrylic is the easiest)
I also own this watch and I totally agree with your review. I really like your NATO strap! I will definitely try similar one with my watch in the future.
Thank you for such a well made review, I will be following. I could not agree more on the band. Is that the saddle brown band from Barton? Thanks in advance!
I’ve got 4 cocktail times including the original sarb065, I love them to bits. I love this new green one and the turquoise version... HOWEVER as with all things Seiko the price is getting too expensive for what they are. If I can find them on sale a few months down the line then I’ll get them, but otherwise the Seiko markup is getting too high.
I own this watch and thinking send it to the service center cause the watch ran slow, but I don't know what to do when I notice the cost of the maintenance is more than the retail price of the watch itself.
I love seiko, $500 price point no it makes sense to use a sapphire crystal. Loreo has a $63 price point and comes with sapphire. Beautiful watch, I'm considering the red dial hardlex crystal and all.
They could’ve done more but I feel like they left the sapphire out on purpose, because it would shoot closer to the sharp edged series that just released. Whatever the reason you’re right a sapphire crystal would perfect this!
Great watch and superb review! For Pete's sake though, Seiko, put a sapphire crystal on these dress watches. The spectacular dial would be wasted with a scratched crystal.
You’re right. I would’ve loved to see a nice sapphire crystal. Maybe seiko thought owners of this watch would be busy drinking cocktails and taking their leisurely time. Rather than rebuild engines with it on their wrist? 😂 Either way a sapphire crystal would elevate this to best entry level dress watch
@@perpetuality unfortunately, rebuilding engines isn't the only way to scratch a crystal. And I get your point but indulge me. I write for a living and I tend to baby my watches, especially the dressier pieces. So, imagine my surprise to find my cocktail fuyugeshiki with a huge scratch on the crystal. It put me off the cocktail time after that experience. I think that if a crystal protrudes from the case as much as this does, it should be sapphire. I'd be willing to pay extra to protect those gorgeous dials.
100% agree with you, I cannot imagine the cost differential for a sapphire crystal to be that great, considering micro brands can do so much for so little. The crystal also protects the bezel in a way- and having it sapphire just has more benefits with little to no downsides. The only downside I can think of is gray banding around the edge of the sapphire crystal because of the distortion. Like the Speedmaster sapphire. There are some other arguments for hardlex having better optical clarity and less prone to being shattered, but i would still have sapphire for its scratch resistance Let’s hope maybe crystal times or a third party can release a sapphire crystal down the road?
@@perpetuality that's true. I only know of one. Are you familiar with Long Island Watch here on TH-cam? They sell a third party crystal for the cocktail time. I searched high and low for a replacement crystal and ended up selling my cocktail time. It was only after I sold it that Long Island Watch started selling a sapphire crystal for this model.
Could you share exactly the color/model code of that strap? Just ordered myself one for a major/milestone birthday and would like this strap to take it up a notch.
The movement is the 4R35, which is a solid performer it’s been used in many Seikos. Slower beating at 21600bph but that also means longer service intervals. I would say it’s a entry level movement but a solid one. Very similar to the NH35
Having owned the white Visodate before, not gonna lie, kind of a boring watch compared to Seiko's Presage offerings so ended up selling the piece. Recently got the Tequila Sunset edition of this watch, much more of an eye catcher for sure. Greetings from the home city of Bezel House!
No offense but I am one of those watch guys that does not give a shit about movements. So whatever issues is there with the movement is compensated by the dials. I would buy this watch even if it was quartz😂
That dial is amazing, it reminds me of the blue dial Grand Seiko, which, in my opinion, has the best dial I've ever seen. At that price point I wish it had a sapphire crystal and 100m water resistance tho since those are quite easy to pull off these days especially for someone as big as SEIKO, but for a dress watch I guess you can wave the water resistance, but you'll definitely need to swap the hardlex for sapphire over time. Btw isn't the 4R movement just a renamed NH35/6?
Good point! it seems like they had to leave some room on the table for the other mid-tier presage watches too. Imagine it with a sapphire crystal and it would be near perfect!
Sapphire is not a deal breaker as long as the watch speaks to me. I actually love acrylic on vintage/themed watches 100m is not a given for a dress watch, many dress watches including trinity are 30m.
Sapphire is actually difficult to achieve for this much of a domed crystal. You won't see that much of a dome in sapphire on any watch at that price point, and even higher priced watches much reduce the amount of 'dome' on versions with sapphire- a good example is look at the Omega Speedmaster moon water acrylic version vs sapphire- not only is the sapphire version more expensive than the acrylic version (both cost in the thousands) but the sapphire version is not nearly as domed. I did have a Vulcain with sapphire and a really high dome, and B&R makes models with such a high domed sapphire, but both cost in the thousands. I love vintage domed watches, so I would much prefer this highly domed version of this watch than a flatter/less domed sapphire watch. However, I would much prefer Seiko simply use acrylic here, which can easily be polished, vs. their mineral glass which cannot be polished.
@@patrickmacleod2415 I live acrylic for its warm distortion and vintage feel esp on vintage themed wat hes. As far as speed master Moon, acrylic over sapphire anyday (won't even consider sapphire on the moon version ).and most collectors feel the same.
Lovely watch. Super size. Very nice dial. But if it was mine it would be irrelevant how nice the dial is, because the hardlex Crystal would be covered in scratches completely ruining the aesthetic. 😆
Harlex over sapphier does NOT "make sense at this price point". It's unacceptable frankly, and consumers shpuld demand better. Chinese Aliexpress watches have sapphire on $60 watches. It's inexcusable not to have it on over $300 watches.
"11.8mm in depth meaning this is quite a thin watch", for a diver or chronograph watch but thick for a dress watch. Good luck getting a shirt cuff over it. .
I dislike the size of the watch, ideal size would be 39.5 or 40mm. The bracelet does look very plastic and not made of leather. Awesome face on the watch, with beautiful gold numbers paired well with the deep forest green.
@@Fjerid basically they don't scratch. A hardlex crystal is fine on a £150 watch, but on a £300/£400 dress watch you should be getting sapphire. I learned about hardlex Vs sapphire the hard way. Years ago, the very first time I wore my SKX009, I accidentally brushed my arm against a garden wall. It was fairly light contact I would say. My brand new watch now had a scratched crystal and bezel insert. The first time I ever wore it. I could have cried. I was so gutted. I never wore the watch again and sold it a while later.. I've bought watches with hardlex since but only if the price is right, as in cheap, or I know I can easily buy a replacement sapphire (samurai etc) and I'm just generally more cautious with them.
What a hole seiko is.. such a beautiful watch and just when I start to believe world’s beautiful they screw it. I mean no sapphire??? WTHH. And that ugly strap which this good man has made sure to keep it detached. I mean just imaging an animal print embossed leather strap
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Nice review (subscribed). I think this is a gorgeous watch and a "no-brainer" at the price point!
Happy to have you around! I should mention this Green dial variant is sharper than it's blue and red dialed brethren, I think it has to do with the gold indices. I've never been a big fan of the previous cocktail time- they were lacking some fun colors, this changes things for me. Gorgeous is the right word!
All in all I am 100% with you. Seiko is really packing all they can at this price
i think i fall in love with this one, green color always have a spot in my heart.
Especially when the green has this unique personality! Totally agree with you
This watch is so gorgeous that I went way beyond my personal budget limit and got it. I couldn't say no. I must say the dial is incredible.
A video does not do it justice. I agree that the strap is awful both in colour and comfort. The clasp digs in to my wrist and that was a deal breaker. I've replaced it with a matte brown traditional strap and it is now perfect
in my eyes.
It’s a beguiling dial isn’t it! Just a sharpness to the green not seen anywhere else in Seiko and their current line up
You said exactly my mind told me when I bought this watch.
If you close your eyes and open them really quickly you can imagine this watch without a date window, and it's gorgeous
I’m getting f.p journe vibes from envisioning this! 😍
It was a tough choice between this and the SRPE43J1 which is the blue version. Ultimately I went with the blue version, but all of the different colors in this model are absolutely gorgeous and stunning. Great review and love your video lighting. It really highlights that beautiful and intricate dial.
I own the red version (Negroni) and it's absolutely stunning. Very happy with that purchase.
What is the model number for the negroni?
I bought one SRPE45J Today in Turkey. Falt in love at first see:)
The dial is just the star of the show isn’t it?
Your lighting tone makes your video joyful to watch
I appreciate that- it’s an area I’ve been trying hard to improve in! Cheers buddy 😀
Just bought the green dial one, it's a beautiful timepiece considering the price. The red and blue one are also beautiful but I chose the green one eventually
Nice review thanks! No need to skip as some historical background is always welcome!
Really kind of you to say. I was worried it would be too mundane
Very nice video! I was on the edge of buying but you convinced me with these fantastic shots.
Thank you! Very happy to hear for you and your wrist but also my condolences to your wallet 😅
That Green Dial, she looks beautiful
I was interested in buying my 1st watch and i did find this exact one for 150 euros at a boutique on sale. It was their last unit.
I love it on the leather nato. People will be sure to disagree with me but I see no reason this watch couldn’t be worn both casually or with formal attire.
You're onto something with the leather nato and im in that same boat
To everybody complaining about hardlex vs sapphire: hardlex has a rating of 8 on Mohs scale and Sapphire has a rating of 9 so sapphire is not leaps and bounds ahead but is more likely to shatter from impacts. Hardlex is still much better than standard mineral glass.
Exactly, however people like to criticise in order to show they are a true watch connoisseur who knows what they are talking about. If your watch is hitting things so hard it is shattering the crystal, you have bigger things to worry about than whether it's hardlex or sapphire.
@@CrookedNose2131 the same could be said for if you managed to scratch hardlex
@@dizzy3841 True.
Anything can be broken and scratched if you're careless enough. Of course accidents happen in everyday life, but people talk of sapphire as an absolute must as if it can resist nuclear impacts.
I don’t get why this is an argument as it comes with a warranty
500 bucks deserves a
Saphire glass....doesnt? Nice design although
What's the difference between all those glasses? New to watches so genuinely wondering.
@@Fjerid sapphire doesn't scratch. Mineral scratches easily but is tougher than sapphire. Acrylic is the most scratch-prone but the toughest (also buffing scratches from acrylic is the easiest)
@@Fjerid Seiko have their proprietary Hardlex crystal: better than mineral but not as scratch-resistant as sapphire
@@waqarhaider2226 Ah i see! Thank you man.
Yes but seiko love to screw you with Softlex
I also own this watch and I totally agree with your review. I really like your NATO strap! I will definitely try similar one with my watch in the future.
Thank you and great choice!
Thank you for such a well made review, I will be following. I could not agree more on the band. Is that the saddle brown band from Barton? Thanks in advance!
Looking for a sapphire dial version of this guilloche dial. Anyone know the watch ID?
Estoy entre este, un Alpine y un Presage Edged. Cual de los tres me recomiendas? Gracias
I’ve got 4 cocktail times including the original sarb065, I love them to bits. I love this new green one and the turquoise version... HOWEVER as with all things Seiko the price is getting too expensive for what they are. If I can find them on sale a few months down the line then I’ll get them, but otherwise the Seiko markup is getting too high.
How about 350 for this watch is that a good deal?
Ikr they are way overpriced and no sapphire crystal 🤦🏽♂️ every decent watch at this price point has sapphire, seiko screw you
Still no sapphire😕 by the way great video👌congrats!
I own this watch and thinking send it to the service center cause the watch ran slow, but I don't know what to do when I notice the cost of the maintenance is more than the retail price of the watch itself.
Lovely comprehensive review! Thank you
To quote Miami Vice movie, “You like da Mojito?” 😂 Great watch Bro.
i do like the original strap way more than the one you have now.
I love seiko, $500 price point no it makes sense to use a sapphire crystal. Loreo has a $63 price point and comes with sapphire. Beautiful watch, I'm considering the red dial hardlex crystal and all.
They could’ve done more but I feel like they left the sapphire out on purpose, because it would shoot closer to the sharp edged series that just released. Whatever the reason you’re right a sapphire crystal would perfect this!
Have you ever had a watch in a situation where sapphire would have made a difference? Be honest.
@CrookedNose2131 yes millions of situations, Softlex sucks
Which one is better this or srpb41j1 blue moon coctail bracelet edition ?
Hey great video ! What colour is the strap please? Saddle brown? Thanks
Do you mind linking the strap that you used or a similar one? I think the watch is beautiful but I agree with your sentiment on the strap
It is the gingerbread leather nato from Barton straps
Great watch and superb review! For Pete's sake though, Seiko, put a sapphire crystal on these dress watches. The spectacular dial would be wasted with a scratched crystal.
You’re right. I would’ve loved to see a nice sapphire crystal. Maybe seiko thought owners of this watch would be busy drinking cocktails and taking their leisurely time. Rather than rebuild engines with it on their wrist? 😂
Either way a sapphire crystal would elevate this to best entry level dress watch
@@perpetuality unfortunately, rebuilding engines isn't the only way to scratch a crystal. And I get your point but indulge me.
I write for a living and I tend to baby my watches, especially the dressier pieces. So, imagine my surprise to find my cocktail fuyugeshiki with a huge scratch on the crystal. It put me off the cocktail time after that experience.
I think that if a crystal protrudes from the case as much as this does, it should be sapphire. I'd be willing to pay extra to protect those gorgeous dials.
100% agree with you, I cannot imagine the cost differential for a sapphire crystal to be that great, considering micro brands can do so much for so little. The crystal also protects the bezel in a way- and having it sapphire just has more benefits with little to no downsides.
The only downside I can think of is gray banding around the edge of the sapphire crystal because of the distortion. Like the Speedmaster sapphire. There are some other arguments for hardlex having better optical clarity and less prone to being shattered, but i would still have sapphire for its scratch resistance
Let’s hope maybe crystal times or a third party can release a sapphire crystal down the road?
@@perpetuality that's true. I only know of one. Are you familiar with Long Island Watch here on TH-cam? They sell a third party crystal for the cocktail time.
I searched high and low for a replacement crystal and ended up selling my cocktail time. It was only after I sold it that Long Island Watch started selling a sapphire crystal for this model.
I had no idea! Thanks for the suggestion. Gotta keep an eye out for the new cocktail time 😃
Could you share exactly the color/model code of that strap? Just ordered myself one for a major/milestone birthday and would like this strap to take it up a notch.
It’s the Barton Leather Nato in gingerbread brown
@@perpetuality 20mm width?
Which mehanichal hand-winding watch do you recommend?
Great review thanks, diameter vs. circumference on wrist size ?
What a great review, thanks. You've earned a new sub, and I think I will be picking up the blue version.
The blue is really sharp! I think it is the most underrated of the three releases. Thanks for watching 😃
Will the date be damaged if adjusted wrongly? Thank you.
I would avoid changing the date from 8pm to 3am as that is the change over period for the date and you may damage the date mechanism
What is the width of your Leather Nato strap? 18, 20, 22, or 24mm? Trying to order now :)
Heya it’s 20mm!
@@perpetuality thank you!
What else do you need besides strap and the watch to attach both?
Sound track name you have used in starting of Video
It's 'Panika' by Timothy Infinite
I have just bought it, and it is beautiful indeed. Amazing watch!!
Congrats! What a sweet watch to have for the end of 2020- enjoy 😊
How much
Nice review! Only one question. Is it possible to put a metal bracelet (maybe the one from the other presage) on it?
Great question unfortunate not the position of the lugs and smaller case won’t allow for it
Excellent footage, as usual!
Thank you kindly my friend- going to check out your presage video now!
Your wrist is 6.25 in diameter?! I hope you mean circumference! Great review and totally agree on the strap.
Yes I mean exactly that! 😅
But how is the movement? Rocksteady as eta 2824?
The movement is the 4R35, which is a solid performer it’s been used in many Seikos. Slower beating at 21600bph but that also means longer service intervals. I would say it’s a entry level movement but a solid one. Very similar to the NH35
What cocktail is it?
🤔
Nice review, impressive watch. The dimensions are pretty adequate for a dress piece.
Thank you for the comment!
Guess I'll save up a bit more and get the green new alpinist instead.
The cursive "Automatic" is so much better than "PRESAGE". Seems like that would be a no-brainer.
Having owned the white Visodate before, not gonna lie, kind of a boring watch compared to Seiko's Presage offerings so ended up selling the piece. Recently got the Tequila Sunset edition of this watch, much more of an eye catcher for sure. Greetings from the home city of Bezel House!
Hola my BH comrade! The dial is something else to witness- if you have a chance in person. It’s bewildering
Have 5 Tissots , among many others that gets almost 0 wrist time while Seikos always get love. Need to thin out. Lol.
This my grail ⌚ and I just ordered one 🎉
Is this is a men's watch?
Can be worn by both genders easily I think!
Its nice but we all need sapphire.... i've accidently bang a wall and scartch scartch
YEAY...I GOT THIS ONE WATCHES
Please tell me where I can buy that strap!
It’s the Barton leather nato! I hope that helps in your search
These watches are absolute pieces of art, sadly to me they are abit small
Kinda sad they made it 38mm, 40mm is more versatile as its in between 38 and 42mm.
I respectfully disagree in my opinion for a dress watch 38mm is the absolute sweet spot.
Yep. Won't wear them with 7.5"+ wrists.
Smaller is classy
A bit big for my taste, still want one
This watch looks beautiful. I’d love to get one.
I already have the green alpinist 2020, but this one is really tempting!
A link for the strap please !
It’s the leather nato from Barton 😃
I don’t know shit about watches. Are there any seiko or Hamilton or tissot watches under 200 cad?
No offense but I am one of those watch guys that does not give a shit about movements. So whatever issues is there with the movement is compensated by the dials. I would buy this watch even if it was quartz😂
This is the most honest valid statement ever 😂
Bruh!Great shots!
Thanks man! 😀
review the Longines Ultra chron!
Wrist circumference. Sasquatch may have a 6 inch diameter wrist.
That dial is amazing, it reminds me of the blue dial Grand Seiko, which, in my opinion, has the best dial I've ever seen. At that price point I wish it had a sapphire crystal and 100m water resistance tho since those are quite easy to pull off these days especially for someone as big as SEIKO, but for a dress watch I guess you can wave the water resistance, but you'll definitely need to swap the hardlex for sapphire over time. Btw isn't the 4R movement just a renamed NH35/6?
Good point! it seems like they had to leave some room on the table for the other mid-tier presage watches too. Imagine it with a sapphire crystal and it would be near perfect!
Sapphire is not a deal breaker as long as the watch speaks to me. I actually love acrylic on vintage/themed watches
100m is not a given for a dress watch, many dress watches including trinity are 30m.
Sapphire is actually difficult to achieve for this much of a domed crystal. You won't see that much of a dome in sapphire on any watch at that price point, and even higher priced watches much reduce the amount of 'dome' on versions with sapphire- a good example is look at the Omega Speedmaster moon water acrylic version vs sapphire- not only is the sapphire version more expensive than the acrylic version (both cost in the thousands) but the sapphire version is not nearly as domed. I did have a Vulcain with sapphire and a really high dome, and B&R makes models with such a high domed sapphire, but both cost in the thousands. I love vintage domed watches, so I would much prefer this highly domed version of this watch than a flatter/less domed sapphire watch. However, I would much prefer Seiko simply use acrylic here, which can easily be polished, vs. their mineral glass which cannot be polished.
@@patrickmacleod2415 I live acrylic for its warm distortion and vintage feel esp on vintage themed wat hes.
As far as speed master Moon, acrylic over sapphire anyday (won't even consider sapphire on the moon version ).and most collectors feel the same.
@@cy4624 I've actually got the sapphire FOIS, but I know what you mean.
What is the name of the strap you use :)?
Hey! It’s the Barton leather nato
@@perpetuality thank you
Lovely watch. Super size. Very nice dial. But if it was mine it would be irrelevant how nice the dial is, because the hardlex Crystal would be covered in scratches completely ruining the aesthetic. 😆
Sir I kindly ask you to stop fighting time traveling robots with your Seiko on your wrist 😂
Love that green dial. New subscriber
Thanks for following along!
Fantastic quality!:)
Say, are you a member of redbaryyc? Your voice sounds familiar.
SUPERB!!!
I would pay more for sapphire
This looks terrific, I wish it had Roman numerals.
Your face looks terrific, dude ! 😂
Harlex over sapphier does NOT "make sense at this price point". It's unacceptable frankly, and consumers shpuld demand better. Chinese Aliexpress watches have sapphire on $60 watches. It's inexcusable not to have it on over $300 watches.
I couldn't agree more!! Seiko screw the customer!! Frigging Softlex sucks
"11.8mm in depth meaning this is quite a thin watch", for a diver or chronograph watch but thick for a dress watch. Good luck getting a shirt cuff over it. .
The numerals ruin it for me
P
I dislike the size of the watch, ideal size would be 39.5 or 40mm. The bracelet does look very plastic and not made of leather. Awesome face on the watch, with beautiful gold numbers paired well with the deep forest green.
40mm and sapphire and I'd be on it. As it is... Pass sadly. Shame as that dial is stunning.
Couldn’t agree more
What's so special about these sapphire crystal glasses? Newby here
@@Fjerid basically they don't scratch. A hardlex crystal is fine on a £150 watch, but on a £300/£400 dress watch you should be getting sapphire. I learned about hardlex Vs sapphire the hard way. Years ago, the very first time I wore my SKX009, I accidentally brushed my arm against a garden wall. It was fairly light contact I would say. My brand new watch now had a scratched crystal and bezel insert. The first time I ever wore it. I could have cried. I was so gutted. I never wore the watch again and sold it a while later.. I've bought watches with hardlex since but only if the price is right, as in cheap, or I know I can easily buy a replacement sapphire (samurai etc) and I'm just generally more cautious with them.
@@AvicSubfusca Oh that's a big deal. Now I see why manufacturers promote with sapphire! Thanks bud
@@Fjerid sapphire is much more resistant to scratches than run of the mill glass, it'll ensure the watch stays fresh looking for longer
What a hole seiko is.. such a beautiful watch and just when I start to believe world’s beautiful they screw it. I mean no sapphire??? WTHH. And that ugly strap which this good man has made sure to keep it detached. I mean just imaging an animal print embossed leather strap
I echo the same thoughts on the lack of sapphire, luckily the strap is an easy fix. So close to greatness. Thanks for watching
Hardlex never makes sense at a Pricepoint over 100$
38 mm ist to small
I have a replica which is 90% similar. costed me $11
I don’t think that’s something to be proud of- owning a replica watch….
But to each his own. Enjoy
Beautiful but too small ( 40mm. ok)
You’d be surprised how many people don’t know the difference between hardness and sapphire. They just think the word sapphire just sounds ‘cooler’
calling 500 CAD watch an "entry level" lolll
This leather strap looks ridiculous. Hipster nonsense.
Awful strap.