@@VergePermaculture is it done? I would like to know, bc we live in a really cold climate and would love have the opertunity to grown something all year.
Another con - in my view - is mold. Depending on the climate zone - I have seen several yurts getting green and black spots because of mild. It typically happens with yurts that are not heated in a cold wet season. Do not place a yurt if you're not going to use it all year around I would say.
Poor insulation? I think it would depend on how thick your walls are and the material, because traditional yurts were invented by those who lived in cold climates, I'm sure they kept the inhabitants very warm in comparison to the outside.
nice video and good information! hahaha, its funny you find it "refreshing" to stay out in winter- try this out in Berlin, where it get -18° C in winter for weeks X-D I'll try to tell myself the next time its super freezing cold ;-)
I purchased from groovy yurts so all wool as insulation and waterproof canvas. Would the heat be similar though the wool or r value works only as long as I keep heat running?
So I saw that one of the cons are poor insulation. That's not true, yurts are great for many kinds of weather climates. There are people who live In northern Quebec, which can get up to -50 and people living in Alaska with yurts. Those are extremely cold places and they are perfectly warm.
I'm sure he has, he seems to know his stuff. But a wooden, stick built home, is not really a yurt at all (yurt, being the Russian word for Mongolian dwelling called a "Ger", which is traditionally very portable and wrapped in animal hides, and insulated with sheep's felt). Therefore, a yurt made of hardwood is simply a wooden roundhouse, not a yurt by definition.
Your insulation discussion ignores the countless manufacturers that use wool / felt insulation......when insulated with these materials, the yurt is EXCEPTIONALLY well-insulated... far more than a traditional home
Thanks for the comment. You are right, you can insulate them a lot better than most of the manufactured ones and wool is a great insulation. To live comfortably without always having to burn a fire however you need to have ~R30-40 in our ecosystem where is gets to around -30 C in the winter time. I love yurts, however, a lot of them are just not designed properly.
In -30 c, a traditional home would also need to run constant heat... as you mentioned, traditional homes are climate controlled and that's a process that runs non-stop. You can also get away from wood if you want and burn propane... or natural gas... or anything that a traditional home burns.
VergePermaculture this maybe the dumbest sentence ever spoke by somebody giving info. I don't care what you're in if it get down to -30 you will constantly have a fire roaring. What are you trying to say?
@@VergePermaculture What are your thoughts on building a very strong base and putting in a rocket mass stove with rounded cob benches to act as thermal mass in addition to wool insulation? I'm looking at setting up in Nova Scotia, Canada.
Probably not. Even houses can't take those winds, especially when you get above a Cat. 3. The fabric would take such a beating, it would tear and allow air to blow the yurt into the air.
Florida native here.... That would be a big ole negative on withstanding a hurricane. Ive seen hurricanes uproot old growth oak trees and sling them onto houses. Yurt would be gone in a hurricane.
I live in a large kit yurt with lots of windows and am constantly amazed by how conditioned I am from a lifetime of box dwellings and offices. Most befuddling early on was how the full moon could be shining into my bedroom on the North side, moonrise and moonset. Finally got some blackout window shades for the bedroom which let me get some sleep.
Research Development Thanks for the Reply , Do you mean to say that we should not live in Yurt without Concrete Foundation or We don’t need permit for Yurt without Concrete foundation ?
@@sudakara2388 check your local/city/state code laws but generally only if you have a permanent foundation will you need a permit. Google says the same thing In most areas a floor or deck that is less than one foot above ground level requires no permit. The yurts I make are essentially a portable tent, no permit required. However electricity and plumbing do need a permit. When talking to any building authority wording plays a big part of their decision making.
@@sudakara2388 so in other words if you plan o. Putting up a electric pole and box to the grid or solar off grid you need permits....if you want to add PVC/pex plumbing even from a rain collection system for home use (i.e. cooking, bathing, washing, drinking) will need permits as well.
yurts are not allowed for living in Ca. And its a good thing because they become infested with mold easily. The one i know of is a big pile of junk after 20 years. So infested that the furniture and clothing got visible mold. Always cold or hot, its just a dumb waste of money. They do not last.
@@VergePermaculture True... basic Gers are on sale on Etsy, eBay etc. But they are for harder people. If you want the comfort of a regular home, you may have to upgrade a lot. And it may just cost you what these guys are charging. I'll DM you the link, it would be very poor form to link it here.
Welp I tried to DM but I cant. Of course I am not saying that your yurts are not superior to the basic Ger. And I am sure that they are very luxurious and worth every cent. Just saying that the sticker price was a bit shocking. But I can see how you could arrive at it.
Security is another con. Someone can just cut thru the wall. A used mobile home (less than $10k) makes much more sense. Put another $10k into rehab and you're way ahead.
We lived in a mobile home, a regular stick built house and now have survived our 7th winter in Northern British Columbia in a 32' Yurt. A mobile home is not a pleasant structure, poorly insulated, a huge heating problem in winter with all the poorly designed water lines around the perimeter walls and leaky roofs. The closed in feeling is also a negative health issue. The round shape of a yurt creates a positive energy field around your body. Imagine being able to think outside the box and start using sawdust toilet and permaculture. Don't use drinking water to move your shit.
Anyone trying to just cut through a yurt wall will meet resistance from the cross hatched wooden walls. Now, a traditional Mongolian Ger might be more prone to being cut through as I believe those have straight wood pole forming the framing of the walls, but that’s not the case for modern Yurts.
Basics I better learn before I build even a Doghouse; Thank You! @ 3:10: "...Heat moves through (a system) by Convection, Radiation, or Conduction; and Convection is a form of Conduction in a way..."
convection is NOT a form of conduction.. i dont know where he came up with that from but it is simply false, physics has the 3 separate and categorized as such for a reason they function entirely different from one another. and that not his only blatantly false statement either in this video. fact check would be my advice, this does not seem a very credible source
I’ve always thought that building a geodesic greenhouse around a yurt would be a great idea for insulation and security.
Interesting idea.
I love that idea!
@@KG-ri9xh if you waxed the canvass, you won't build up mold. This is a simple way to make waterproof/mold resistent.
@@KG-ri9xh wood stove in winter, open the windows in summer
@@VergePermaculture is it done? I would like to know, bc we live in a really cold climate and would love have the opertunity to grown something all year.
Take a look at "Smiling Woods Yurts" out of Twisp Washington. They manufacture pre engineered hard sided yurts
Another con - in my view - is mold. Depending on the climate zone - I have seen several yurts getting green and black spots because of mild. It typically happens with yurts that are not heated in a cold wet season. Do not place a yurt if you're not going to use it all year around I would say.
Jakob De Proft My “The complete yurt handbook” recommends biannual disassembly inspection cleaning and repair.
@@davidfuller764 or you could wax the inside of the canvass....y'all need to look up how Mongolians did things.....
Poor insulation? I think it would depend on how thick your walls are and the material, because traditional yurts were invented by those who lived in cold climates, I'm sure they kept the inhabitants very warm in comparison to the outside.
Felt is a traditional material, and generally those original cold climates are also very dry.
I have seen excellent insulation with yurt, Even up to 20cm. However, insulation on the roof requires extra work per m2 compared to classic house.
You know there's Aussie Yurts that are made with housing materials allowing you the luxury of all the pros + eliminating the cons.
+marzigeisha I would love the link.
Wonder how a yurt would do with Rockwool insulation and whether a combination of materials could achieve R-40 or higher.
Actually I’ve seen yurts mostly with canvas cladding
nice video and good information! hahaha, its funny you find it "refreshing" to stay out in winter- try this out in Berlin, where it get -18° C in winter for weeks X-D I'll try to tell myself the next time its super freezing cold ;-)
+Katrin van Loechtern we get down to -30 c. We know cold.
Would be possible to live comfortably in Florida with its heat? Looking raw land in 9a and 8b zones
What's wrong with round spaces??? They're fantastic!
I purchased from groovy yurts so all wool as insulation and waterproof canvas. Would the heat be similar though the wool or r value works only as long as I keep heat running?
So I saw that one of the cons are poor insulation. That's not true, yurts are great for many kinds of weather climates. There are people who live In northern Quebec, which can get up to -50 and people living in Alaska with yurts. Those are extremely cold places and they are perfectly warm.
What is the r value?
Unfortunately the author may never have heard of Yurts made of hardwood and fully insulated walls just like a stick built or modular.
I'm sure he has, he seems to know his stuff.
But a wooden, stick built home, is not really a yurt at all (yurt, being the Russian word for Mongolian dwelling called a "Ger", which is traditionally very portable and wrapped in animal hides, and insulated with sheep's felt). Therefore, a yurt made of hardwood is simply a wooden roundhouse, not a yurt by definition.
@@cowboym4227 corect: a yurt is a round tent!
Is it hard to pass through town zoning
Just want to use as a getaway accommodation for summer
Likely a good use.
Im doin it
Ry Rez did you do it? :)
we all want to know
saving up still lol i have $ 3k towards it so far. 😛
TELL US! Did you do it???
Wonder if they've made better yurt coverings that can actually help warm your yurt
Your insulation discussion ignores the countless manufacturers that use wool / felt insulation......when insulated with these materials, the yurt is EXCEPTIONALLY well-insulated... far more than a traditional home
Thanks for the comment. You are right, you can insulate them a lot better than most of the manufactured ones and wool is a great insulation. To live comfortably without always having to burn a fire however you need to have ~R30-40 in our ecosystem where is gets to around -30 C in the winter time. I love yurts, however, a lot of them are just not designed properly.
In -30 c, a traditional home would also need to run constant heat... as you mentioned, traditional homes are climate controlled and that's a process that runs non-stop. You can also get away from wood if you want and burn propane... or natural gas... or anything that a traditional home burns.
VergePermaculture this maybe the dumbest sentence ever spoke by somebody giving info. I don't care what you're in if it get down to -30 you will constantly have a fire roaring. What are you trying to say?
@@VergePermaculture What are your thoughts on building a very strong base and putting in a rocket mass stove with rounded cob benches to act as thermal mass in addition to wool insulation? I'm looking at setting up in Nova Scotia, Canada.
Thanks
Are they sturdy enough during really bad storms, like a hurricane?
StephenKingfan555. that is a good question have to tie it down like they do with trailers or some sort of deal
Probably not. Even houses can't take those winds, especially when you get above a Cat. 3. The fabric would take such a beating, it would tear and allow air to blow the yurt into the air.
Apparently in Japan one of them withstood a tornado
Florida native here.... That would be a big ole negative on withstanding a hurricane.
Ive seen hurricanes uproot old growth oak trees and sling them onto houses. Yurt would be gone in a hurricane.
They really are aerodynamic and do better in high winds than a boxy structure.
Would that be the Vynal solution?
thank you
The round shape makes it a challenge, only if you live inside a box. Just add another log to the fire.
I live in a large kit yurt with lots of windows and am constantly amazed by how conditioned I am from a lifetime of box dwellings and offices. Most befuddling early on was how the full moon could be shining into my bedroom on the North side, moonrise and moonset. Finally got some blackout window shades for the bedroom which let me get some sleep.
I went to the yurt because I wanted to live seasonally.
Do we need Permit to build Yurt for Living ..
You shouldn't...unless you lay concrete for a foundation.
Research Development Thanks for the Reply , Do you mean to say that we should not live in Yurt without Concrete Foundation or We don’t need permit for Yurt without Concrete foundation ?
@@sudakara2388 check your local/city/state code laws but generally only if you have a permanent foundation will you need a permit. Google says the same thing In most areas a floor or deck that is less than one foot above ground level requires no permit. The yurts I make are essentially a portable tent, no permit required. However electricity and plumbing do need a permit. When talking to any building authority wording plays a big part of their decision making.
@@sudakara2388 so in other words if you plan o. Putting up a electric pole and box to the grid or solar off grid you need permits....if you want to add PVC/pex plumbing even from a rain collection system for home use (i.e. cooking, bathing, washing, drinking) will need permits as well.
Is it possible to make a yurt brick home
Solid.
As long I have a good neighbors😘
??? do they ready use TIN as you said in foil?
He means reflectix bubble wrap with an aluminized coating. It's good stuff in some ways.
Your better off buying a round metal grain bin. You can buy a short one or a tall one for an up stairs.
yurts are not allowed for living in Ca. And its a good thing because they become infested with mold easily. The one i know of is a big pile of junk after 20 years. So infested that the furniture and clothing got visible mold. Always cold or hot, its just a dumb waste of money. They do not last.
$30000 for a Yurt? Wow... you can actually buy a Mongolian Yurt for $5000 Shipped. That better be a luxury Yurt
You are right. They're are many prices and sizes out there with lots of different features.
Can you please link that Mongolian yurt info? I’ve been operating under the assumption it will cost $20k or more.
Nate the cheaper ones usually dont have windows.
@@VergePermaculture True... basic Gers are on sale on Etsy, eBay etc. But they are for harder people. If you want the comfort of a regular home, you may have to upgrade a lot. And it may just cost you what these guys are charging. I'll DM you the link, it would be very poor form to link it here.
Welp I tried to DM but I cant. Of course I am not saying that your yurts are not superior to the basic Ger. And I am sure that they are very luxurious and worth every cent. Just saying that the sticker price was a bit shocking. But I can see how you could arrive at it.
Security is another con. Someone can just cut thru the wall. A used mobile home (less than $10k) makes much more sense. Put another $10k into rehab and you're way ahead.
Large dog $50
We lived in a mobile home, a regular stick built house and now have survived our 7th winter in Northern British Columbia in a 32' Yurt. A mobile home is not a pleasant structure, poorly insulated, a huge heating problem in winter with all the poorly designed water lines around the perimeter walls and leaky roofs. The closed in feeling is also a negative health issue. The round shape of a yurt creates a positive energy field around your body. Imagine being able to think outside the box and start using sawdust toilet and permaculture. Don't use drinking water to move your shit.
Anyone trying to just cut through a yurt wall will meet resistance from the cross hatched wooden walls. Now, a traditional Mongolian Ger might be more prone to being cut through as I believe those have straight wood pole forming the framing of the walls, but that’s not the case for modern Yurts.
@@angelgirldebbiejo lmfao
Basics I better learn before I build even a Doghouse; Thank You!
@ 3:10: "...Heat moves through (a system) by Convection, Radiation, or Conduction; and Convection is a form of Conduction in a way..."
convection is NOT a form of conduction.. i dont know where he came up with that from but it is simply false, physics has the 3 separate and categorized as such for a reason they function entirely different from one another. and that not his only blatantly false statement either in this video. fact check would be my advice, this does not seem a very credible source
@0:55 atrophying (is a word in my dictionary app!) our circulatory system. Yikes!
“Vinyl clad= putting jet-fuel on a building” This guy is my friend, thanks.
Flirt with a yurt.
Thatch?
20k-30k for a tent?????
Thank you