The FINAL FLAGSHIP!! - Final A8000
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2020
- The New Final Flagship, the A8000. Impeccably beautiful, Stifly priced, and it sounds...... about what you'd expect for 2 grand.
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Build 1:25
Amplification 7:58
Sound 8:53
Conclusion 16:59
In the first minute, Josh mentions a cheaper comparison IEM linked in the description, then...nothing? I've watched several times :-/
1:28 Ahhhh I see you're a man of culture.
I'll take a well done single DD over a dozen BA's or other multiple driver setups any day of the week. Nothing beats the coherency and natural sound of a good single DD. Just my two cents.
PURE is the word tat come to mind with that kind of system. With complex setups your are walking on egg shells and EQ can really throw the balance out and break overall cohesion.
I got to test this issue on a fiio iem and felt so disappointed that I returned the purchase after the first week of painful listening. But thankfully not all composites render badly.
Hope to see you do more iem-reviews!
I would like to see some chifi iems too. I only see Russians reviewing those
Me too
@@juanp756in English-speaking world, no there isn’t too many. On Weibo (you could actually sign up) there’re tons of them with great details.
Mine are going to arrive tomorrow, can’t wait
Thank you for this great review! Fantastic lighting and editing.
Just a heads-up: Final x Dita Shichiku Kangen seems to be the ultimate A8000. Bought two pairs already. They come with luxurious packaging, great leather cases and two pairs of their mmcx assist tools. Besides, Shichiku Kangen itself has black PVD coating and Shinkin grooves. Bass is slightly more in terms of the amount, but still comes with all A8000 trebles/kids, etc.
Clear and concise. I’d be interested to see how they compare to Campfires Solaris. I’ve recently purchased these and lose them but they are a little large although the overall sound quality is exceptional for me.
If you plan to use such IEMs on the go, I reccomend a portable dac/amp like the iFi xDSD. It also has bluetooth which is super convenient when you don't want to have your phone physically connected to anything or when you don't want to stuff multiple devices in one pocket.
Great review... Still waiting for your final baby orpheus review and hoping you have time to bring back the feature video of audiophile systems from fans. Lol
Great... thanks haha. I was settled on getting the Fiio FH7 from the Campfire Solaris (making me go cheaper for savings) and now you post this....
Any thoughts of comparing this to the Dunu Luna? Similar price and also a single beryllium dynamic driver.
loved the honest review ! Final is known for their treble refinement ...Thanks :)
Hi Josh I bought final A8000 based on your review few months back & thanks a lot boss. Could u please suggest a good dap for pairing with … I’m thinking Dethonray Prelude Dtr1. Do u think that would be good match. Thanks
I just watched an entire review for a product I will never buy, I'm enjoying the reviews Josh! You kept saying the sound was "what I expect for $2000" man, I expect them to get me a beer and babysit my kids for that price! They may be great, just not for me....
Great review. If it were headphone/s, which one/s would it remind you of? Thanks
oh I love final audio. love my e4k so much
Excellent review as always Josh. Sorta a head scratcher though on why final sent you flagship iems when final makes a very high end over the ear headphone as well. And with you be primarily a over the eat headphone reviewer. Perhaps this is a teaser to some future final audio over the ear headphones ? Thanks!
on their site they have a section called the Aging phenomenon does it mean it deteriorates or did they mean the burn in period?
I think we need more ASMR intros. Love Final's offerings! I hope to be able to afford this one day haha. Great review as always!
Hahah that ASMR unboxing, love you, Joshua.
What’s your recommendation on the ultimate ears iems are they worth the 1800$ or no
This review reminds me of my thoughts on the Kanas Moondrop Pro. Which I own. Which also have a metal body, single driver, and many of your comments remind me of.
nice review
2000 is a bit pricey for iems. I have been using my SE846 for over 5 years. I think they sound fantastic and sound isolation is good ( with yellow foam tips ).
It’s really insane that IEMs have gotten so expensive. There’s really no rational justification for current flagship prices. I suppose that’s true for most high end audio.
I agree... I also think that's true for most high-end everything nowadays...
@@ZephonWing Have you heard them or any headphones or speakers with berrylium, worth every penny, focal sopra or revel performa, it's insane almost the best of the best, almost
@@geoffreyvanhouwaert8677 urbanfun YBF-ISS014 use a berylium driver and they cost $60, i havent heard these so i cant say if they sound better but what i can say is ive heard some 1k+ sets and they sounded as good or better to my ears....there really is no need to spend ridiculous amounts to get hi-fi sound out of an IEM these days so imo no....not worth every penny.
@@geoffreyvanhouwaert8677 I own the A8000 and I'm also going to look into Dunu Luna.
While I agree they are insanely expensive, I also appreciate the efforts the manufacturer put in; I know when you're paying this amount of money, you're not paying for the materials, but the time the manufacturer spent on developing the tech and the precision in which the earphones are put together. So, yes, they are expensive, but I still paid for them, and they will definitely not be the last pair that I buy.
IEMs haven't "gotten so expensive", expensive IEMs have existed for decades, e.g. AKG K3003i, FitEar To Go! 334, UE 18Pro, JH Roxanne, there are always people searching for the absolute best, it might not make sense for regular people like us but there is a reason companies are still making them - coz some people buy them
Have you tried the qdc neptune? Wonder what you think if so
Hey Josh, have you tried to u12t? Would love a comparison
I hope you can review the Campfire Audio Atlas’s. Love to hear your opinions on the bass of those IEMS. Wow. :)
Atlas vs the Finals is a good comparison shout
What is your opinion on the Shure SE846 ?
How's it compare to the Tin p1?
Do a blind test of this and the Tin T3 with someone who's experienced but hasn't ever heard of either.
That's gonna be fun.
8lec Roe also blon bl-03
B3 have a similar type of sound (albeit scaled down in all departments) ????
Josh please try and review the Final Sonorous headphone line...the III and the IV...love to know your take.
Do IEMs come with mic?
Watching this on my own A8000 right now...
I recommend going with a balanced cable for this pair.
In comparison with other similar-priced IEMs, IER-Z1R actually has a deeper base (try Interstellar's Mountains with this) and even wider sound stage, but the vocal is a bit pushed back and highs not as bright/sharp; however, still extraordinary on its own terms.
I'd think you'd enjoy comparing the A8000 with the IER-Z1R.
Anyway, thanks, Josh, for another great review.
Balanced cable literally does nothing unless you need the length when you're a studio or somewhere large.
khalil crosstalk is an issue you solve when driving balanced. The difference is very small but you can hear it. Also balanced amps usually have a lower noise floor that especially helps with sensitive IEMs.
If you can't hear the difference (or it's negligible for you), then good for you, really, as you saved yourself a lot of money.
@Otie Jason Well, I guess there are far worse things to get ripped off on... Like how I just wasted minutes of your life that you're never gonna get back. Sorry about that.
khalil if you’re using a portable DAC/amp which gives you double the power through it’s balanced connection vs. it’s single ended, then I would think yes balanced DOES make a difference.
You should do a review of the Victor HA-FW10000, another single dynamic driver (wood!) made in Japan flagship. Very few content on it available in English, so you can be one of the first to cover it in depth outside of Japan (where is continues to be highly praised after two years).
Any plans of trying the Voyager 14? Everybody seems to love it and it is much less expensive than the A8k ("just" 1k).
Try and compare with Sony IER Z1R. I've tried them both and prefer the Sony Z1R. It's soundstage sounds more real. It is also a three driver hybrid so... Give it go?
Try the Etymotic ER4XR. Great sounding with a very flat frequency response and far not as expensive.
Hi, I have a question: I love neutrality and balanced hps, is the A8000 bass and sub bass textured? Thanks
weak in bass and sub bass
Bass is not weak. General sound signature is quite neutral. A bit to much for me, I love some oomph im sound. Those doesn't have it.
The B3 is one of my favs... haven't heard these yet though.
Got a8000 and ier-z1r both are fantastic pairing with my hugo2.
How do they compare? Im looking for a company for my Z1R also and I've tried a couple, Andromeda, Katana, ex1000, ocharaku, etc still the best I've heard are Shure KSE1500.
@@MuhammadKharismawan how do you find the Z1R? what amp and dac do you pair it with? Im loving the a8000 every now and then, just recently bought the Plussound x8 cable for it.
Is it good for fps gaming?
If you could get your hands on the Final Audio B series, it would be awesome !
thank you Josh
The A8000 link takes me to the Arya, just fyi
Great review!
I like to try these.
Final E5000 and Periodic Audio BE are my current favorite IEMs. Of course they are in the below $300 range.
I think you should list the Final E5000 in your list of links at Amazon as they are the top of the line of the Final E series and they are superb (superior to E4000 which I also own). They even come with a similar case and a cable that looks identical to the A8000 cable in your video. It would be interesting to see a comparison of these with the A8000 to see how much difference there is. I do consider the E5000 one of the best IEM in the under $1000 range as long as you can drive them with something decent because of their 92db sensitivity (I have to trick my LG V-40 phone into high gain mode to give these proper power).
As far as the Periodic Audio BE it has single dynamic Beryllium drivers that produce that forward "holographic" sound stage (a term I have heard used by a couple of reviewers) that you mention on the A8000. The PA BE is not as detailed as the E5000 but it has that something that makes you be immersed in a space with the music. I also have the more expensive Periodic Audio Carbons that are more detailed than the BEs but lack that something that the Berylliums have. Another Beryllium headphone that I own is the Campfire Cascade over the ear. With the XL pads it also has that immersive sound stage with great detail and imaging. Now, if they could only reduce the bass by about 5db that headphone would be nearly perfect. The ZMF Verite line (~$2,500) over the ear headphones also use Beryllium drivers and are outstanding (only listened to these from a friend that owns the open back version). I am starting to see a trend here with Beryllium dynamic drivers that sound really good, at least to my ears.
Hi Josh, I'm relatively new to audio and just loving your work. You're detailed without sounding pretentious and it's really opened my mind to the world of audio.
I've suddenly got this hunger for listening to music and was wondering whether you had a Spotify playlist of test music you use. You mentioned Kodo, for example?
Get your hands on the 64audio u12t. Through having the luxury to try almost every headphone and iem on the market I think it truely can mix it with the likes of the flagships from hifiman, focal etc. it definitely out does them on treble articulation and still remain non fatiguing, unlike the u18, trio and fourte which can be a little hard. Keep in mind you will get significantly better performance out of something like the rme adi2-dac
Hello, Can I ask. is it really worth to buy U12T? (I am a regular AirPods Pro user that If I switch from Airpods to U12T, the difference will worth? Thank you)
Hey how long do you take to do a review if i send you iems? Who pays shipping? Any insurance if you lose it/damage it? Have the empire ears wraith and legend x that i dont use often. Also 64 audio u18 but thats daily driver ;P
Mike ashton you’re better off sending him an email. He leaves it in the description section of his videos.
A8000 vs IER Z1R please!!
Z1r sucks
@@ColocasiaCorm controversial :)
@@ColocasiaCorm Slightly less than that comment....still one of the best IEM's available today...MEST on point too.
@@ColocasiaCorm only if it's opposite day
Hey Joshua, I have a request. Think you could include the names of songs you use in your video? Sometimes they don`t play long enough for me to Shazam them. Often times I really like the intro or background songs you use in your videos and want to be able to look them up
never heard of the brand or the IEMS before, clicks manufacturer link and can guess that the price of these are 'approximately' in the model name without even scrolling past the header
4:30 - “At $2000 please include an extra cable”....high-end cables can be expensive, so if you want a pair then they will be lower quality. Not a sensible ask...
Hey Josh, can you also put in the description which lighting equipment you're using. Your content looks amazing and your not even using high-end full-frame equipment!!
Love the content Josh. Favorite audio reviewer hands down
You prefer tin t2 over kz zs10 pro ??
No way
Great review btw
Do final d8000 pro edition review😃
There are high end cables for 2000... that I use with Noble Khan... lol so I can see why they don't provide extra cables maybe? Btw how does this compare to Noble Khan?
I have spoken the the owners of Noble and they seem pretty open to sending out review units if you want to get in contact with them.
Should try AAW Canary.
How do they compare against kse1200?
Agreed. A review by Josh of the electrostatic Shure KSE1200 would be interesting as they retail for around $2K USD as well. However for the KSE1200 that $2K includes the earphones AND the required electrostatic amplifier as well.
I'd love to know your opinion about Campfire IEMs too. Especially Androemda and Solaris.
watch john darko
@@Daraabinator I have. I just want to know Josh's opinion on them.
Ali Arghavan i reached out to them and they don’t seem ti want to work with me right now. Plenty of other things to review!
@@JoshuaValour Well that's a shame. Their loss IMO. Keep up the good work.
Please Joshua do blind test with others with this and other in expensive iems like the tin t2 t4 and etc.
hmmm i see Joshua is gamer ...😆
1:28
Check out the smsl sp200
kind of amazed they don't include a balanced cable too
The link in your description for the A8000 links to the amazon Arya page...
Stan Hartman oops. Thanks for letting me know. I will change that later today.
Still waiting for that SVS Ultra tower review
Bismillah
Great review. I usually don’t agree with your reviews, but I agree here.
Can you please see if you can review the D8000 and Sonorous VIII and X? There are virtually no reviews of these highly priced cans. Thanks for what you do whether I agree or not I always appreciate the quality and passion behind your reviews.
One of the reasons they probably don’t offer an additional cable is to reduce e-waste (like with chargers) they would get lost or never used or both. An extra identical cable doesn’t make sense IMO. Maybe one silver and one OCC or something but yeah.... anyway don’t listen to me I’ve got cabin fever cause of that corona crap and felt I needed to comment I guess 😒
Any thoughts on reviewing the Urbanfun YBF-ISS014 which is another beryllium driver? Or thoughts on the Blon BL03?
Well it seems you were pleased with them but I don't know if I trust myself with taking those on the go with me, which is what I see as the point of having IEM's
"Can I help you finding a new IEM, sir?"
"Yes please, I want BASS that grabs me by the balls and takes me along for the ride."
"Say no more..."
Yo dude, review the Xelento by beyerdynamic
This is a fantastic review. And I watched this AFTER I bought my a8000. The 3D quality of the a8000 is fantastic and so good. You perfectly describe it. Thank you!
Old Geezer's Tech Review for god’s sake where did you the money
is "lion by codo" on qobuz?
Yes
Kodo*
you're describing the A8000 to a headphone you didn't like.... Focal Utopia
Subscribed.
Your design/materials/build plateau theory is fine, until you see the IER-Z1R.
I can't see myself paying even $500 on IEMs. Headphones I could almost justify a used set of Utopias. I probably haven't heard good enough IEMs yet.
Great video Mate 💕
Btw can you please review the KZ series IEMs too
Seems to me when it passes a certain point, high end iems use less drivers. Zeus after all us “only” 750 usd. Campfire Solaris, 64 audio tia Fourté, they don’t use a lot of drivers like 64 audio “mid tier price-wise ” u18t that uses 18 BA’s. Hifiman e2000, Dita audio dream xls, campfire altas and Vega are all single dynamic driver iems.
The u18t is hardly mid-tier in price, but it's also quite old now and might be reflecting an older trend.
allydea I meant in 64’s lineup but you’re right.
😮
Review the urbanfun ybf iss014 and the blon 03
The a8000 Amazon affiliate link points to the Arya.
this vs u12t ?
Same question here
From what Crinacle has on his website, to him there's no better IEM than the u12t
@@shahmirkhan5373 but the a8000 is relatively new and there might be a chance that he has never heard them
For around two years I kept looking for the perfect pair of headphones/earphones, heard of so many brand names, but not this one, never heard of Final Audio until now, went online and found a pair second hand close to me, the thing is...they are horrible, at least compared to my Custom Sony MDR-XB500 (custom drivers), even the Blon-03 sound better, perhaps these are good for something, the sound is a mess, they are Ok, but not fun, or surprising, I have a pair of Audio Tehnica that sound almost the same as these, never use them because of the sound.
You kinda look like Justin Gaethje in the thumbnail
Insanely basic packaging included with a 2 grand IEM.
And I thought the Meze Rai Penta's packaging was basic already.
Please review the Tin t4
In my opinion, too bright in treble and thin in vocal if match with original cable.
I agree with your list of the best open back headphones.
But the closed back i disagree totally.
No argons ! No X00 ebony ! No emu teak !
Unless you consider it semi closed i consider it closed
David Mason can’t buy the Ebony anymore unfortunately. Argons and EMUs are great though!
Made is japan ???
I can confirm that. I have a pair; they are made in Japan.
@@ZephonWing I love the things that made in japan which it's pretty rare unfortunately
i have no interest in this product but the links in the description got you a like from me :) and this comment i guess
Yea but $2000 isn't there anything you can recommend in $100 or less that comes close to these?
This earphone company is the master of clickbait . When i saw the title i thought he found the best/final earphones .But it's just the company name.
Take your money out of the Dow Jones and get this, no?
z1r vs a8000🤔？
I didn't audition the a8000 yet.
But I have the z1r and they are amazing, they sound mature and luxurious.
To me it sounds more premium than my other high end headphones, with premium i mean that when you listen you will know its expensive.
I have both.
They have different sound signatures, but both of them are right up there on the top.
I listen to vocals/pop with A8000, and movie soundtracks/orchestra with Z1R.
@@ZephonWing nice so they are more complementary than competitors.
Me personally I complement my z1r with hedd audio headphone, they also have a little forward vocals.
@@sonicthehedgehog989 Same here, but depending on the headphone though. The vocals on MDR-Z1R are actually further back compared to IER-Z1R, but those cans are super comfortable (both physical and sonically). I find myself switching from IER-Z1R to MDR-Z1R when I want more or less the same "Sony signature sound," as well as just to relax and maybe doze off a little.
As for forward vocals... I still need to get myself a pair of HD660s...
Why aren't you wearing gloves, protection? 😬
2 dislikes are by beats users
Anmol Sharma haha