Ref Watch: Lack of focus and judgement by VAR in disallowing Luis Diaz goal says Dermot Gallagher
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In today's edition of Ref Watch, Dermot Gallagher spoke about the disallowed Luis Diaz goal which happened during Liverpool's 2-1 loss to Tottenham Hotspur.
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp had already slammed "the most unfair circumstances, crazy decisions," before referee body PGMOL officially apologised for Luis Diaz's first-half strike being disallowed for offside.
It was later revealed VAR mistakenly believed that the on-field decision had been to award the goal. This resulted in VAR Darren England, despite realising that Diaz was onside, relaying a message of 'check complete' and the goal being ruled out.
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Look at the VAR graphic at 0:47 seconds into this video - the VAR graphic is literally stating that they are "Checking Disallowed Goal - Offside". Dermot immediately repeats the BS that the VAR crew mistakenly thought the on-field decision was Goal given. This explanation from PGMOL was manufactured in the rear-end of a horse.
It’s most laughable and comical excuse blatant insanity if these inept and incompetent folks think we are believing that nonsense
That was what I have been saying. How has no one not mentioned or question that? Clearly states checking for disallowed goal. I think it was on the big screen in the stadium too. They claimed they thought they had checked to confirm for goal scored. Who put that up then?
I am having comments removed about Saudi' influence in the game and their desire to be the number 1 league. Poor officiating will support this aim.
Funny that. You should check what he said to talk sport on the phone. It's not what he said here.
LFC should demand they release the audio
Absolute bloody disgrace. Sack the lot of them. Honestly.
I suppose he wants Liverpool to say "Ah ok we forgive you 😊, let's all have a cup of tea".
What a pleb.
Even if those responsible for this error are sacked, has it really solved the problem so as it may not happen again to another club? My opinion is every club should have a representative in the VAR room
it should have police involvement now,
48 hours before the match they were in Dubai, home to owners of Mancity to make this corrupt deal
Send em all to the Saudi league
From preventing " clear and obvious" errors, to making " clear and obvious" errors,
VAR has really evolved
Well there's a problem in that football fans may have assumed that VAR will never make mistakes. Overall does VAR correct more errors than it causes? Probably yes. But as a rugby league fan, we've had video refs for 25 years and they still make the odd terrible decision. Cricket fans have had third umpires for slightly longer and they still get it wrong sometimes. VAR will continue to make blunders for as long as humans are involved, that's just part of the equation unfortunately.
Howard Webb named Chief Ref
When City set out to equal Utd 3peat
Casemiro leg breaker on Akanji ignored
No outcry,inquisition then?🤔
Dermot saying "this can never happen again ever" but it will
How can 4 people in VAR room with 50 cameras miss the offside flag when that’s the very thing they are all supposed to be looking for. How can 4 people not then notice that once they said check complete there was no celebration from Liverpool players and how can 4 people not notice that the players then set up formation for a free kick an not a kick off.
And let’s not forget the massive mistake from the linesman in the first place to even put his flag up when he Diaz was miles onside.
Its called cheating
Pure corruption.
all the referee in VAR room, tied, was sleeping.
They were all jetlagged (hungover) from UAE trip.
And it must be the 1st goal wher no players, away fans or bench celebrated, but yet they thought a goal was given, absolute joke
It's not just human error! It's negligence
This was an intense prime time match with the whole world glued to their TV sets, and it seems these 4 men in the VAR box were not focusing on the game.
It’s a fix. That was football fixing.
~negligence~ Corruption!
The VAR version of why this error happened got to be verified as well.
Its not human error its purely intentional
It was no mistake. The match was fixed.
Dermot doesn't care about the integrity of the game, he only cares about protecting his ref buddies and the image of VAR.
As Mike Dean said "I was just helping out a mate".
I totally agree with you bro 😎
Sorry gentlemen, but the statement that Darren England thought that the on-field referee had given a goal does not hold water! who put up that graphics showing, "Checking Disallowed Goal" on the VAR screen? If he thought it was a goal, the VAR screen would have read, "Checking Possible Offside-Goal"
England quickly sent out a freeze frame of Jones to be sent off and conveniently "thought that a goal was awarded" - Corruption Corruption Corruption
Apparently they don't see that banner on their screens like the viewers do
@@BabsW They "HOPED" the viewers hadn't sen the screen more like!
@BabsW who puts it up then?
Spot on!
There’s 4 officials in the VAR room, there’s multiple video monitors, and we are supposed to believe they weren’t aware of what was happening on the field of play? 😂
Clearly they were distracted, the pizza was really good !
They shouldn't be in there if they not watching the match!
I am having comments removed about Saudi' influence in the game and their desire to be the number 1 league. Poor officiating will support this aim.
Yes, it can be believed when you find out they had just come back from the Middle East where they had been moonlighting for big bucks. Probably snoozing when the goal was scored.
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The PGMOL statement should have read. "we accepted a huge sum of money to make this mistake, so we correctly disallowed the goal"
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Or, " We had some massive bets on Son scoring first, we accept we should have made this cover up more convincing, and THAT was our "Substantive human error"
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These referee's that is part and parcel of the premier league that still go and make extra money in Saudi Arabia needs to be investigated cause those Arabs got lots of money and got their interests all over the show to temp the greedy to do whatever needs to be done just for the sake of extra BLOOD money,just saying,FOOTBALL FAN.
Don't be silly. If Liverpool were gaining from a cock up your point might have some credibility.
Warnock spoke more sense than the so called "referee" on the panel. This clearly shows the state of the refereeing in the Premier League.
Var was brought in to eliminate human error 😂 you couldn’t make it up
its almost like when you have humans making decisions there will be human error
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I am having comments removed about Saudi' influence in the game and their desire to be the number 1 league. Poor officiating will support this aim.
The referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
Yeah but the whole point of VAR is to have a chance to correct human error of the on field officials. Its error to the power if 3. Lets start get VAR for the VAR. Its Madness. @@TtotheCizzel
One question remains unanswered. How the officials didn’t know the goal was disallowed? Multiple officials too. When everyone else did. Were they not watching the match? Were they not looking at the screens that informed everyone that the linesman raised his flag and that the goal had been disallowed? Calling it a human error doesn’t account for this. They were obviously doing something else at the same time but don’t want to say what.
That was the only game going on at that time too
It all smells fishy, I don't trust these lot!
Mucking about.
Either they they turned a blind eye to what happened or they weren’t watching what was going on. Either way it’s unacceptable. If a bus driver crashed because he was distracted or chose not to look at the road, what would happen?
Unfortunate for Liverpool it coincided with their mandatory coffee break.
Surely what they're skipping over here is that after VAR said "check complete" thinking a goal had been given BOTH VAR officials presumably sat there watching Tottenham set up for a free kick (so this is BEFORE play has restarted) and never once thought to say "hang on a minute, they setting up a free kick not a kick-off, we've obviously got this wrong, let's tell the ref while there's still time." THAT'S what really boggles my mind; not only did two VAR officials somehow miss the linesman's flag being up and the massive screen saying "checking disallowed goal" and the mic'd up lineman saying "offside!" and the Liverpool players not celebrating, but after all that they also completely missed the fact that the game was restarting from a free kick. Seriously, I could understand one person missing one of those things, but two people missing five obvious things?! They'd genuinely have to be either asleep or watching the rugby World cup instead. It's absolutely outrageous and we HAVE to be given the full audio from the incident so we can see what was really going on.
Dermot bumbling through this trying to appear as though this isn't a 'company narrative' is painful to watch. Gary Neville's flip in less than a day compounds how foul this all is. So many clubs (and fans) are being robbed by them not having adequate measures to counter this, IN GAME!
How come VAR was so active during Jones's red card and fell asleep during diaz's goal? It is a serious doubt.
I kept saying the same exact thing!! The game was rigged!!!
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Very good point mate...u should copy and paste that statement on every youtube clip talking about this disaster
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Reaffirm a process!!! We cannot be serious here, 4/5 seasons in they suddenly 'forget' the process. 2 seasons back, at Spurs, Kane not sent off, no VAR check, Jota just taken out by Royale, no penalty, Robertson checked in the same game, sent off (rightly) Liverpool lost that title by 1 point, City gifted none penalty against Burnley, Rodri not given against Everton etc. There is a myth that these things even themselves up....they don't!
If one accepts the wrong VAR decision was "Human Error" how can the VAR reffrees justify showing a "still image" for a "prolonged time" to the onsite reffree, for the Jones' red card, rather than a replay?
Dermot doing everything to stick up for his mates. He is a great friend.
but just looks awful.
They roll him out after every controversy. This one however is indefensible.
I am having comments removed about Saudi' influence in the game and their desire to be the number 1 league. Poor officiating will support this aim.
Same here. They are all paid off.@@luke-ti3fu
Yeah. He is so predictable.
Strong statements from Stephen. Applaud his anger and frustration over the issue.
The referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
@@pbocking44 Exactly. I mean this is complete common sense. It doesn't have be in the rule of the book. It is our very own conscience which superceeds rules and laws. Even the VAR referee could have communicated with the onfield referee, request him to stop the play, call both managers and captains and explain that there was an error in the decision and should award Liverpool the goal. The outcome would have been absolutely different.
I understand errors in judgment in the case of a foul where it is based on interpretations. But decisions on offsides are absolute and this is why I can't accept an apology. Moreover, it is known that the two VAR referees had officiated a match in UAE 48 hours prior to this match. An indepth and stern investigation must be done to make this error the last and final. No other team must suffer how Liverpool did.
@@mungsuante2628 justice is best achieved here thru a replay. no-one could seriously complain.
@@pbocking44 To be fair, I would wish for that and wouldn't mind if Liverpool lost even under fair circumstances. But to be realistic, I don't see anything of that outcome happening.
Anger towards corruption and the establishment. 3 points to Spurs can cost LFC the title or top 4 spot.
Let's have this right Dermot....there was more than just 1 offside mistake in this game. How about the freeze frame for Hooper to look at, set up for him by VAR? Why not show him the full footage as I understand they are supposed to? What about the incident with Gomez and Van de Ven where upon replay it looked a penalty or at least merited a decent look at it....not the mere seconds it took to rule it out as a penalty by the same VAR officials. Lastly....couldnt the ref just have had a word with Jota instead of a 2nd yellow? He didnt connect with the player and neither was it reckless. This game was rigged against Liverpool and anyone watching that sickening nonsense on Saturday would agree. LFC are spot on with their statement, someone needs to take a stand against the Ref's Mafia & FA and get this sorted out once and for all. Dermot is just a mouthpiece for the same mafia....i had no respect for him as a ref and i have even less respect for him as the analyst of Ref's....he more often that not sides with the Officials. Get him off our screens!!
I'm just curious why anyone would be rigging games against Liverpool and/or for Spurs, especially his early in the season? The idea that the entire PGMOL are specifically against Liverpool success?
Excellent solution Steve. Rules that are written are sometimes meant to be broken. It has happened throughout history so why not change it for the moment. Dermot says the referee has no power, then why have a referee in a game. The integrity of the VAR has been challenged.
I hope Liverpool Sue the bastards, this is corruption at its finest. Something needs to change, these refs should be made accountable and should be interviewed after the game to explain themselves. Human error with all this technology is unacceptable..
The problem is that Liverpool cannot do a damn thing about it cuz it'll be like hitting your head on a brick wall with the incompetent refs
@@KS-xj7uxyou can bring it up to CAS (international sport court). City did when they were banned for CL l and CAS overturned it
@@dave-ld8mo Come on, this is the Premier league not the Champions league. I doubt anything will be done about this
am not looking for a sacking, it was a communication error, inconceivable, but lesson will be learned. Should be replayed though - they failed to count a valid (excellent) goal
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The VAR team for the Spurs vs Liverpool should have been watching the match.
How they failed to see the offside call by the linesman for the goal is totally unbelievable.
Once they realised they had made a mistake they still failed to inform the referee until half time.
Publish the audio NOW.
Were they having a snooze after their long flight home from the UAE.
I thought the same thing, were they sleeping 😴
They were counting the Oil Money from their work in the UAE. They weren't watching the game
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I agree with you but they are even more than snoozing during the match. They were snoozing during the check. It says: Checking disallowed goal - offside. Which means they must have known an offside was given otherwise the check would have been labelled differently.
They were watching the golf mate 😂
If they dont release the audio, oh boy.. it will not look good.
Human error was when the referees had no help and made on the field decisions. THIS IS NOT HUMAN ERROR THIS IS CORRUPTION!
Exactly, down in League 1 we don't have VAR, and I've always fully accepted, some refs are more competent than others, some might even have a bad day at the office (who doesn't), but it's swings and roundabouts, generally over the course of the season it evens itself out, I cab forgive 1 person, but when you have multiple people, and all the angles, where mistakes are happening week in week out, that's not just a bad day at the office, and it's unforgiveable.
If this is human error. all our African dictators too should be forgiven for their daily consistent human errors.
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There is no evidence of corruption. Where is yours - and sour grapes doesn't count?
I think one obvious step that needs to be taken is enforcing an updated set of language that officials use when discussing VAR decisions over their comms, similar to what airlines or the military do so that there's absolutely no confusion. For example, instead of the VAR official just saying "check complete", they should say something like "check complete, it's onside". Then the head official on the pitch should be required to confirm at least once more by asking "confirm again, you're saying it's onside?" "Confirm, the player was onside" (or something like that). This should be done multiple times. Airlines have had to completely update the language and phrases they use in the past, because you'd be surprised how many planes have crashed simply from poor communication and vague language that lead to misunderstandings. Eliminate the use of any vague language whatsoever and enforce multiple checks for confirmation before play can continue.
Dermot: 'The laws are more important than the integrity of the game, referee coping a penalty for breaking laws would be worse than Liverpool receiving the goal'.
The referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
smh
Liverpool have lost titles to City twice by a point.
A lot of people are saying Liverpool should just take it, and get on with it, no way.
If the team that you support is happy to take that kind game and just get on with it, then that's them.
Gallagher was under immense pressure here not to sink the referee ship, and he dodged it well.
He didnt, infact he made it obvious he knows something about this ..constantly pleading "I dont know" - I can see right through his nonesense
Well said how can we get on with it. Only those who benefits from such mistake will talk move which I believe it's a biased statement by saying move on.
Arsenal fans were told the same thing after the Brentford game last year by many liverpool supporters at that time so it’s hard for me to find any sympathy for them. Why should I support Liverpool’s fight here when their fan base was laughing at us about this same issue?
@@TheFunctioningInsomniac Difference is Arsenal FC didnt do anything about it, LFC has. Therefore, the question for you is why did your club do nothing ?
@@TheFunctioningInsomniacdon't worry, it will soon get to you and maybe by then you will realize that we are fighting not just for Liverpool as a club but for every other clubs in the EPL
Steve needs to be part of VAR assessing team! His points were 1 million percent bang on! 👏🏾
The game needs to be replayed as this is just absolutely crazy. If Liverpool losers the league due to this game all hell will let loose. This has tainted VAR and the Premier league for the rest of the season.
This is an outrage! Liverpool is the only team that has ever been cheated by incompetent officials and their VAR . 😂
hahahahahaahahahahaha!
It won't be because of this goal don't worry lol
lol . We would be replaying 30% of all matches 😂😂. Not happening because it’s Liverpool
Should we replay the 2019 UCL final too? How about Jota kicking Skipp in the head, studs up, at anfield last season? the list goes on. everyone is affected by these VAR decisions and it evens out, but that's not to say it shouldn't be fixed
Good on yeh Steve , putting a voice to what all Liverpool fans are thinking
not just liverpool fans, football fans.
Dermott is trying hard to cover his biases but it is obvious he knows the refereeing structure is anti liverpool for man decades and still is ..only until now it is being exposed
Not just Liverpool fan mate, I'm a Manchester United I agree with every word he said
I am having comments removed about Saudi' influence in the game and their desire to be the number 1 league. Poor officiating will support this aim.
On VAR debut we had cucurella hair pull by Romero which was not penalised.
Now we have come to understand that barca have been influencing referees with money. We all knew that 2008 CL between Chelsea and Barcelona was the most corrupt game in professional football.
Give Liverpool the goal, have the match end at 2-2 and split the points between the clubs. That, or replay the match. Otherwise the entire outcome of the season for all clubs is suspect.
100%. I'm not a Liverpool fan but if they miss out on winning the title again by one point, we've seen those points margins happen, then the whole title comes with an asterisk. Surely they will replay the game, they've replayed games for lots of reasons before.
So how many extra games a season would their be if every incorrect var decision that led to a goal being given, not given had to be replayed?
Lets play the whole league again.. utd would love that..😅
Absolute madness, do ypu realise how many games would have to be replayed in the last 2 seasons alone? Quite simply, they have a massive spotlight on them now. They cannot afford mistakes like this again. They will learn from it and make adjustments to VAR. It's still a work in progress.
@@TH-camPHD2023look in the mirror😂
As a Liverpool fan it can't end like this. we need a replay of this game.
Why?? What about all those other games where decisions have incorrectly gone Liverpools way? Should all of those be replayed again? Absolute nonsense! You'll have to do what other clubs do, suck it up and move on.
@@PeteRatcliffe we are talking about the current season.
@@PeteRatcliffeWhen has that ever happened😭🤡
@@FxtballXGaming when has what ever happened and who are you calling a clown?
@@PeteRatcliffe uhhhh bruh what bro on about💀
Dermot is exactly the kind of person operating these VAR checks, no wonder it is not fit for purpose. Let's not just make this a Liverpool issue though , it's happening week in and out to all teams. It is a joke in my opinion we need the Fifa style offside technology and also the VAR and ref should be audible so there is complete clarity to what they are looking at and saying.
Dermot will always be on the official side
Agree need young fit sharp people.
@@mervynpetersBS,we need to tackle corruption TODAY..not just an error that 4 VAR officials panicking and not giving a goal or forgetting
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Is Dermot mental ? Of course one should question the integrity of the officials involved, they willfully allowed an obvious error to go unchecked !
You could say Simon Hopper made a clear and obvious error when he did not restarted the game from the centre circle. VAR officials could have then stopped the game and communicated with everybody what had happened. They however choose not to as they thought PGMOL would make a statement and they would get away with it like they have done previously especially using key words like ‘human error’.
It is not a mistake. It's deliberate. No line drawn. Match restarted quickly. Then, red and yellow cards. They were making sure to give Spurs a clear winning chance. They know the loopholes and no consequences. Say sorry and move on. Sorry to say that but every official aspect where we humans are involved is corruptible.
This is a comment coming from an angry & upset Liverpool fan ... I can imagine how miserable you week have started 😂🤪
You fit the definition of insane
They allowed the game to continue as 0 - 0, knowing that it was actually 1 - 0. How is that not a failure of sporting integrity. If I was lpool I would push for a replay
The referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
The referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
@@pbocking44 If this is true then it's a major issue that the communication error wasn't immediately resolved once the onfield referee confirmed the goal being disallowed.
either a replay or a rebalancing of the points to allow for the goal
That's corruption since they know it's a legitimate goal but did nothing to correct it.
Don't they have cameras in the var room. If so, release the footage. So we can see exactly how the mistake was made.
The idea that this was a communication error or a momentary lapse of judgment is categorical absurd.
The ref was told - just look at his face just after the kick off when spurs were taking a throw in and you can see him talking to the VAR and his face changes drastically.
The camera was on him then and it was clear to see something was wrong.
The point is that the goal was given, but was not reflected on the scoreboard. It's not just a goal being wrongly chalked off, it a goal that has been given then not counted.
HOW CAN HE NOT KNOW OFFSIDE WAS GIVEN ????? It’s actually impossible ! This is the key point, they should be asking them to EXPLAIN how he cannot see that offside was given !!! They are covering something up here, but we will never know the truth
Rematch Salah's "offside" goal vs Chelsea. That was onside too
the first thing they say in a TMO review in rugby, is "what is the on field decision", same with cricket. The idea that VAR don't bother to communicate the on field decision is a complete joke.
What were they doing? Why did they think, in contrast to the millions watching, that it had been given as onside? They were the only two people on the planet that thought the goal had been allowed by the match officials. This explanation creates many more problems than answers, including the possibility that they weren't actually watching the match!
Agree. This is for the sake of all teams in the future... it is very, very detrimental. Every team prepares every season, trains every day, spends money, and every team thinks about how to be successful, and how the millions of disappointed fans will feel. It is very detrimental and even has an impact on players' mental health.
I think the real issue here is the systematic error. If there's nothing to prevent a misinterpretation of the on field call and the cut-off is the start of play, a really simple solution would be to confirm the decision at any stage before that. Example: confirm the player was offside? No? Confirm goal? Oh wow, that could have gotten ugly!
Has to be a confirmed goal or offside rather than "no goal" or "onside" as that could get confusing.
Liverpool are not questioning var we are questioning the officials in charge of var. How much more obvious do we need it to be. Still im hearing a lot of excuses and people trying to find a logical reason for this when the answer is clear there was no mistake it was intentional. Why can people not accept this!? its not just about the offside goal all LFC Fans know this. Keep ya head up Liverpool! YNWA!!!!!!
Why would they intentionally do that... It would be in the PLinterest to have Liverpool challenge and they could have went top yesterday which would have sparked more interest in what is viewed as a one sided race given how good city are
When Money talks interest walks. There's nothing wrong with VAR as a concept what's wrong is that these decisions are corruptible. @@grassrootsfootball225
@@grassrootsfootball225so what is your explanation for the decisions?
@@bigdoggtheinfamousone9300 miscommunication coupled with sheer incompetence
@@grassrootsfootball225 Or, match betting by the VAR crew! What were the odds on Spurs scoring first? Or, Son V Diaz for the first goal? Or a Spurs win? Are you so sure they didn't have money on the outcome? All those bets can be placed in seconds on a phone. Lads were doing it in the pub, whilst the match was on! There was a guy next to me who swapped his bet to a draw, just before the own goal! How pissed was he! But this is going on all over the Middle and Far East. This VAR crew had just got back from UAE, covering a game there. It might be bollocks, but nobody has checked. Plus the Premier League has not made a single statement about the whole thing. Nothing. No comment on the sendings off, no comment on the VAR debacle. No mention of "We'll look into it". Nothing! Clearly they are happy with the whole game, so move on! Bollocks!
If it was just the offside I’d be happy to accept human error as explanation but it’s all the other dodgy bias decisions that happened against Liverpool throughout the whole game which makes us as fans believe that the integrity should be questioned!
The only other stand out shite decision of Jotas first yellow card, that was some shocking stuff
i think the Spurs player hooks up his own foot when he notices Gomez is going to beat him to the ball
(1) Incorrectly offside. (2) 1st yellow card on Jota. (3) Ref trip to UAE prior to the game, where is Man City owner from??? (4) Freezing screen VAR on Jones. (5) Incorrectly given corner kick when the last touch made by Tottenham player.. I'm still trying to digest on how those incidents can just be called "Human error". Those ref are corrupt on my view. PL has lost it's credibility.
The "there is no law that allows a ref to do that" statement by Dermot is absolute rubbish. No sensible football fan would have what has happened now. A wistle and an immediate fix would have sufficed and this incident would not have gotten this big. They made a huge error, they could have fixed it. The fans, FA, managers, players all would have understood.
There’s a big difference between “human error” and “incompetence”
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yeah, if I go out in my car and mow down a child, I can't just claim human error as I'm standing in court.
This is what refering has become.....Protect your mates no matter the costs..... That ref that spoke to Simon Jordan admitted he done it so its no wonder mistakes are made and everyone is questioning how no one stepped up or double checked.....Protect your own mentality.....
its a mafia of refs who had just got back from a payday in Dubai 48rhs before
I’m genuinely surprised Dermot didn’t try and defend his mates and come up with an excuse as to why it was the correct decision, like he usually does. Even with two identical penalty calls, one given (Arsenal vs Spurs) one not given (United vs Spurs).
At the very least, for offside calls, the referee should state to VAR exactly what the on field decision is.
12:04 bang on, reasonable, sensible, correct response. The laws can be dealt with (even rewritten) afterwards the most important thing is getting the correct decision on the pitch.
Totally agree, and Dermot's "the law is the law" is kinda meaningless when they change what handball, offside (phases bs), or time wasting, etc is on weekly basis, clearly the law isn't the law is it, they've changed things so often managers and fans alike don't know what a rule is suppose to be!! If the correct decision had be rectified this would've blown over in a week.
Nonsense. Ref on the pitch didn't know there was an error
Dermot has always supported his buddies. He said its a mistake but how can it be a mistake with VAR. This is exactly why VAR was introduce to stop these mistakes. If the VAR officials had even look at it properly and even without VAR, everyone in the stadium or at home watching TV, instantly could see it was not offside. In fact, luis was a metre onside. Thats why there is something very sinister from the VAR officials. In the earlier match when City lost, i had anticipated something like this will happen. Somehow there are people wanting to protect City. And i was proven right. But please in future, do not get Dermot's view. We know he always helps his buddies.
Exactly. I think the var ppl should be totally distant personally from on pitch refs
Dermot has always defended dubious VAR decisions, he has contributed the mediocrity by endorsing every VAR decision.
Dermot,thinks very carefully about what he is going to say, so that he doesn't put his colleagues under the bus.
Your very correct. I don't really fancy this Dermot of a man honestly speaking.
So it was bad enough not to have stop a replay and allow a rightful goal to stand but not bad enough to ignore a legitimate goal in favor of a replay. Crazy and unjust laws.
14:25 ... LOL! Did she really go fourteen and a half minutes without realising that crucial part of the debate? 🤣🤣🤣
Nobody is going to believe the PGMOL's story until they release the audio of what actually was said on the day, by whom and when. If the audio lines up with the official explanation then we move on, if not, then the issue is worse than we first thought. If they don't release the audio, then it opens the door to all kinds of conspiracy theories. If they are telling the truth about what happened then they will have no problem releasing the audio. So what's it going to be?
I think Dermot demonstrates why you shouldn't have referees anywhere near VAR. Interesting how rugby gets it right and football completely wrong.
Rugby? Any code that has integrated video checks has discovered very quickly that human error is not limited to on-field. Video refs in rugby union and rugby league have made many howlers over time.
@@jirskyrjenkins1959😂... It's in rugby where they make countless & unfair TMO decisions
@@queyoung754 cricket too
8 hours ago, Mark Goldbridge said PGMOL would "roll out Dermot Gallagher" Monday morning again like they always do after incidents that happened every weekend.
This is not a mistake, not a negligence. It's acted on purpose. They know what they were doing. It's impossible to have made this mistake, even as a human.
Lol, that's absurd. Sure it could be on purpose, but saying it's impossible for a human to have made such mistake is pretty ignorant... Just look at the news every day and you'll see people doing much more egregious mistakes.
@@nihlify refs are micced up and constantly talking to each other. yet we're supposed to believe 2 refs in the VAR booth didn't know that their colleague has flagged for offside. you are just blindly believing the sanitised version of events that the PGMOL have put out. the probability of fraud being involved in this case is greater than you think.
Of course it is possible for a human to make a mistake like this and VAR have made worse mistakes . Liverpool fans think it's only them that this has happened to.
@@donnachabermingham6694Sorry im a City fan, not a Liverpool fan.
@@donnachabermingham6694it always happens to Liverpool never heard such a mistake happened to city or Untied but those mistakes are happening each year for Liverpool and it costs them titles i
Really happy with the guy with glasses asking the right questions and not being a journalist in modern times protecting these big organizations in fear of them losing their own jobs or having it hindered
Was Suprised to be honest, it is Sky after all.
He is Steven Warnock. He was former LB for Liverpool. He graduated from their academy and of course his is a Liverpool Fan. He wasn’t going to put up with blatant nonsense to cover for the VAR, AVAR and the ref.
Where was Steven Warnock when Liverpool played Wolves in the FA cup last year? Suppose it didn’t matter as much..? 😂
On my screen the display was checking disallowed goal. So how can they then state “Check complete “ of offside.
Stephen Warnock is spot on! Two wrongs don't make a right. They need to follow the example of Rugby and allow all commentary to be heard live. They could have asked the managers if they thought it fair to award Liverpool the goal at half time.
Its blatant corruption and thats the end of it
Wasnt just the offside goal joke but the whole game was an absolute farce towards Liverpool.
Exactly and Klopp indirectly admitted it
Hilarious take - corruption... end of it... farce towards Liverpool... with all the inferences along with it.
This was a communications breakdown caused by a momentary mistaken belief that the goal had been given on the pitch. This couldn't then be corrected because the game restarted 2 seconds later. There is no suggestion of corruption. Liverpool can claim 'sporting integrity' is at stake because they scored a clearly legitimate goal and goals change games, but not professional integrity. Would Liverpool prefer they didn't acknowledge the mistake, not apologise and not investigate?
Let's try to enjoy the injustice for what it is with a friendly laugh at Liverpool's expense and accept that mistake have always and will always be made in ruling out legitimate goals.
Learnings will be made and most likely come through communications protocol adaptions
But haha unlucky
100%. ‘VAR thought it had been given as a goal’…. Whilst posting ‘offside’ in the top corner during VAR check. We also didn’t post the lines because they knew the decision was wrong. You’d obviously post the lines if you thought the decision on the pitch was correct. It’s a lie the entire official team are in on
North London being handed. Lifeline.
The rulebook made corruptions be easily performed during games. 'Once game restart, you cannot come back."
The Match must B replayed... otherwise unjust will B accepted and competition will B corrupted
*What's the point having Dermot on?* He's added very little.
According to his own admission he turned up to the studio completely unprepared and needed Stephen Warnock to give him information that has been publicly available for over 24 hours. You're being paid, do your homework Dermot!!
If that goal was given it would have changed the whole complexion of the game cause even Liverpool with 10 men, Tottenham were clueless on how to break them down.
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I guess you didn’t watch the game either?😂😂
@@CRAYits420play with score 0-0 and play with score 0-1 will be different.
did you? liverpool lost to an own goal with 9 men
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Why not give 3 points to Liverpool?
Why pay the likes of Dermot Gallagher to come ina nd speak when he offers zero insights and information?! He didn't even know half of what happened until speaking to other presenters earlier on!
If this error happened on the last day of the season and resulted in the relegation of a team, what would happen?
They forgot the fact that Liverpool is title contender for several seasons and especially a difficult game against on form Spurs in an away game, this is vital. I dare to say this, if they replay this match, Spurs fans will never have the courage to accept a replay because they know they will never win. Say it Spurs fans. Do you dare? If you are so confident of your team, then accept it.
It happened to Arsenal before vs Brentford game, it was a clear offside goal by Brentford but VAR allowed that goal to stand, now still nothing has been changed to avoid those VAR mistakes
The clubs have power here. They should be calling for change together.
happens to Arsenal multiple times a season
City dropped points before that game as well.
It happened to Liverpool against arsenal too
Strange that they vetoed the use of semi-automated VAR...
This is very simple. It’s just unacceptable. Total Corruption and betting.
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As a Liverpool fan this is heartbreaking to see and as a football fan even more, and if anything we been well and truly robbed the red was naf, the goal was miles onside but the one thing i must say is this has taken something big away from spurs who may stoll have beating us had the refereeing been acurate and its a shame for both teams bit football suffers ans will continue to suffer iver and over again and its not just us there has been countless errors with Var. At this point im wondering whats the point of a linesman if they cant see across a field that a player is well onside then you shouldn't be a linesman
What raises doubt is that there were many matches in which VAR was referred to for an offside check and it took more than 3 minutes to check. Why was this goal checked within 30 seconds?
If it was a genuine mistake, why didn’t the refs announce over the tannoys that there’s been a mistake, and they were giving liverpool a legitimate goal? Why didn’t the ref at half time speak to both teams…. And ask Tottenham to just let liverpool walk the ball in at the start of the second half? Why was utd allowed a penalty after the game was finished….. if they aren’t allowed interference after the whistle has been blown! I’m sorry lol, but logic points to corruption….. 🤷♂️
I think the referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
Not after whistle has been blown, but after play has restated. Did you even listen when they mentioned the Utd game. SMH
@@MrPmwas then why did they let the play restart from a free kick? They must have known that it should/would be a goal kick if the goal had been given. Stinks as bad as old trashford!
@@kylegill4932 the ref on the field has no blame here.. it's the VAR officials who made the error . They should have raised the alarm immediately and they saw play is being restarted from a free kick and not the halfway line.
@@MrPmwas nah lol, the ref on the field was atrocious, he’s either incredibly incompetent or corrupt. 16 v 9 laa…….. disgraceful
Even if they didn’t know what the on field decision was, they should be saying “check complete goal Liverpool” and not “check complete”
Dermot should've been a man and said "our guys screwed up bc they are bad at their job and they will no longer be in PGMOL until they learn how to do that job"
It makes me question how they get the right frame for when the ball is kicked for the assist as well. We get so many extremely close offside calls that the difference between one frame could be the difference between onside and offside
To the 'it was just a mistake' people, Liverpool have lost titles by a point or two before.
Every point matters. Hence why Liverpool is pushing this
A waste of time for Liverpool trying to do that cuz the FA will do sweet FA and not a damn thing Liverpool can do about it
It's not just about Liverpool pal it's about football and the direction it's going.
@@craigcombes The point is that they cannot do anthing about this situation. Whether it is Liverpool or any club in the Prem
@@KS-xj7ux Are you one of those cowards who stand for nothing?
@@kandanda That is not the point. The point is Liverpool are fighting a losing battle so they have to unfortunately move on now
Was Darren England even watching the game
He was probably doing the VAR for some Middle East games at the time, not paying attention to the liv/tot game
Choosing his onboard meal for his next flight out to UAE.
Were any of them? Even the guy operating the tech?
The angle used for the VAR cameras also is a big issue, sure to have cameras "running sideways " not fixed at one single point (diagonal)
The solution is very simple and straightforward. Instead of the VAR official just saying 'check complete', he should have also said what the result of the check was: 'check complete - no offside'. There you go, no confusion.
But weren't the two VARs not watching the game? How could they have not noticed that the offside flag had gone up?
Dermot thinking its OK coz a mistake was made and we should just forget about it lol oh wow what can we expect from another ref sticking up for his incompetent friends this is disgusting and not one of them can be honest
He didn't stick up for anyone here. He only explained the refs limitations
Demot made a career out of making mistakes..it makes sense really.
@@massPanic22 100% 👍
Dermot backing the refs what a surprise
How can they claim check complete when no lines were drawn. Obviously never checked
Dermont's attitude is exactly whats wrong with premier league officiating
People dont talk about these strange decisions other than the Diaz offside goal and the two red cards.
1. Salah yellow carded for body charging Udogie on an attacking situation. This is not even a foul on other occasions. Haaland did this all the time and referees never stopped the play. He would have been on a one-on-one situation against Vicario.
2. Udogie not being yellow carded for waving against Jota when he was already carded. Mac Allister was carded for similar offense against Chelsea.
3. Gomez was blatantly fouled in the box by VdV. Van Dijk was redcarded for similar offense.
4. Robertson's yellow card didn't make any sense. It was barely a touch.
5. Referee didn't give advantage to Liverpool when counter attacking by whistling on a couple occasions.
I can also mention a few others strange decisions
None of those led to a legimate goal. Those are small details that happen in every game due to the lack of quality from referees.
Exactly that why liverpool are about to take serious action. The whole game was rigged against liverpool every single minute. Match fixing at the highest level and millions worldwide saw it live in action.
Salah was yellow carded for remonstrating with the referee. Your point why that was a foul though is still valid
@@AemonCGyes that spray at the ref was very unlike Salah. He gets so many bad decisions (mostly getting hacked without consequences) and usually laughs it off like he knows there is no point arguing his case. But he was kinda pissed off.
@@TheVarsityVillanV2 point 1, 3, 5 have probability of leading to a goal if the referee didn't make shitty decision. Point 2 could lead to Udogie red card, which would make the game more balsnced
VAR technology works but it needs competent people using it and communicating clearly with the on field ref
Instant dismissal for all of the officials involved and no wages.
Aint it mad how Rugby have had VAR and amazing reffering for years now. How are we so far behind!!! Its a joke.
10:32 lol, Dermot explains that adherence to rules is more important than getting decisions right. 😂 But he’s in a spot, he has to defend PGMOL. 😮
To Warnocks point the following of the rules at detriment of the integrity of the game. What a circus the PGMOL is.
i think the referee can adjust the score after play has restarted in this situation. This is because they are correcting a mis-communication. Not reviewing a former incident. It all boils down to what constitutes a 'review'
Truth is when you have to overcome a team like Man City games like this can’t stand. Throw away a teams whole season because of bad human error
They forgot the most crucial fact that this is one of the tougher opponent and it's an AWAY game for Liverpool. To clinch that draw or win is crucial. I dare to say this, if this game is being replayed, SPURS fans will never dare to accept a replay because they know full well what the outcome will be.
It's not human error!
Call corruption by its name! 😡
*Please read- people are missing the point on human error*
The point Liverpool are making is it is unacceptable to just say it was "human error" before conducting a thorough investigation.
There could be other factors at play. E.g. the VAR refs being distracted, VAR ref absent/in toilet, refs being impact by a work trip to UAE 48 hours before.
The point Liverpool are making is we can't make the conclusion before the investigation has been conducted.
Offside line drawn by SKY team is incorrect.. look at the angle of the line compared to the grass at the far end. If drawn correctly it will show Diaz even more onside.
Irrelevant
I know, I thought that, all the clown at Sky had to do was draw a line the followed the grass line. I use telestration software for work, similar to the one Sky uses, a 5 year old could use it, it's not difficult to draw a line from point a to point b. I'd be embarrassed for that to be going out live on air if I was that Sky employee. But even though it's wonky AF it still shows Diaz as miles onside.
It doesnt even matter. Sky's line, the proper line both show Diaz onside😂