Neville, Redknapp & Townsend REACT to PGMOL 'error' for Luis Diaz disallowed goal! 😡
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Speaking on Saturday Night Football, Gary Neville, Jamie Redknapp and Andros Townsend react to the PGMOL statement explaining that Luis Diaz's disallowed goal for Liverpool against Tottenham was a 'mistake' due to 'human error' #football #soccer #premierleague
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There is zero excuse to get offsides wrong, this isn't arbitrary handball or red card issues. You have the lines and the tech, this is not acceptable. Literally in shock listening to that statement.
They have ex ManUtd player Howard Webb in charge…. So no shocker
FACTS.. there should be investigated for match fixing.. this coming from an Arsenal fan.. its all BS..
I noticed VAR missed a penalty for Manchester United today also when a Crystal Palace player casually knocked the ball out of play using his hands 🤦♂😂
Exactly, offsides are well-defined unlike certain types of fouls which can be subjected to some kind of interpretation that will result in different judgement being passed.
As you have mentioned; they have the lines, the tech and (I shall add on) the luxury of time to do the check but somehow all these came to naught.
It’s a disgrace, completely agree
Im an Everton fan but this is utterly unacceptable. Games have such high stakes these days and they are constantly being determined by the boys club. It's either clear corruption or utter incompetence. A week suspension doesn't cut it. Whoever was in charge of VAR there should be sacked. There's incidents like this nearly every week because these clowns can't do a job that 90% of the public could do better.
Respect from a Red to a Blue, your comments are very much appreciated.
In a city where the family rivalry has somewhat changed to one where there is anger and distaste, it is nice to know there are some fans out there that can see through the corruption and offer a fair and unbiased point of view. We saw a horrendous decision last year in the City v EFC game. Their lies and corruption are affecting the majority of teams in the PL (it seems one team gets away with everything though). Brown envelopes are being pushed about, slid under doors and people are being bought all over the place. I hate to say it but these FPP charges against City and Everton, I reckon City will walk with a minor fine but Everton, they'll throw the book at because there's a very strange agenda and it has to be manipulated to benefit the objective. It's wrong and unjust. Something has to change because this whole league is a disaster snowballing out of control.
It's both. The failure to address the incompetence is corrupt.
There should be a check on their bank accounts too
i'm a spurs fan, couldn't of put it any better.
Just the grass cut line shows it.
I can't be the only one who laughed harder each time that Neville said, "Oh No."
Was cracking up 😂
You definitely weren't, it was funny.
But he was right, atrocious decision.
If he is on the same page with LFC... you see it is this serious!
lol....like someone died
Even as a Spurs fan, whose team benefited from the decision, this is terrible and unacceptable.
Just wondering, what is your opinion of the red card? I feel that it shouldn't have been one.
@noobxp1683 Red cards are subjective. Some people will sit on either side of the fence when it comes to those decisions. My opinion is irrelevant. Liverpool fans have no right to complain about red cards/fouls/penalties as they've been on the benefiting end of many of those decisions, in my opinion they shouldn't have been awarded a penalty in the first minute of the champions league final. But again, that's subjective. The disallowed goal, however, is not. That goal should have stood. And the fact that it didn't because play had started and its against protocol to go back and fix things is absurd. As a fan of the game it just doesn't sit right.
I'm a Spurs fan as well and I think this sucks. It's not good for the game. The VAR and his assistant need sacking straight away.
@@aizenangelFinally some non emotional football fans, very very bad mistake from the VAR team and the ref for not stopping the play or even waiting for the ball to go out. but its all should've, could've, would've. onto the next game for us Liverpool fans.
It’s one thing making bad, subjective decisions, but when it gets to the point that even with VAR these refs are just blatantly wrong, something has to be done
Why weren't liverpool fans calling this out a few years ago when VAR was helping them out. Oh wait......
@@OfficialGobbledyGookerhahaha get a grip
They're manipulating angles over in the VAR room. Its probably worse than we think when it comes to match fixing and "errors"
theres no accountability with the refs
@@OfficialGobbledyGookerGive one example of PGMOL admitting an error that benefitted Liverpool. I'll wait
VAR needs to take the rugby approach, clear and open communication from the refs needed going forwards.
It wont make a difference. What happened when Marco Silva was showing screens to prove city's goal was offside?
If they did that, PGMOL would get exposed. Of course it will never happen.
Absolutely. Rugby gets this spot on. Football is living in total denial that it's poorly implementing a system purely because of ego
But if we take that sensible approach how are the officials gonna make a killing in bribes?
Thank you, been saying this for years
Garry Neville
“Ohhh noooos” in the first 15 seconds are quality 😂😂😂
Even as a Spurs fan, I cant stand idle when something this bad happens. This wasnt a close one, this was a guy clearly onside.
What are you doing then?
I'm a Liverpool fan and Neville muttering throughout the first 10 seconds actually made me laugh for the first time this evening 🤣
God, he's unbearable...
The oooooh noooo's got me.
Same lmao, absolutely sent me with the oh no
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gary Neville actually supporting Liverpool is a massive shock. If he can see it, then a blind man can.
He's not supporting liverpool he's speaking the truth up neville come on give him credit
objective fact should come before support for any club
@@admiralseabass8993 Thus is Neville, a man famous for his hate if Liverpool. Up Neville for this.
It's a well known fact to people who know him that Neville hates City with a passion, he absolutely loathes them.
@@JTScottOfficial but he isn't calling for change,he says the same guy should do VAR duty after 3 games out
I am grateful to see fans of other clubs speaking up for Liverpool. Mad respect for you guys. If these errors can happen to Liverpool, it can happen to you guys too. I would hate to watch a rigged match. I rather watch a match lost badly than a match lost due to atrocious errors.
It’s Liverpool this week but it will be their clubs next week with these officials
It's been every club at some point, and it will continue to cost us all games. Could you imagine your club getting relegated over a VAR decision like Liverpool yesterday?
@@cyandrix it has been every club bar Man City who always seem to get away with several things and rarely have anything go against them. They are also charged for cheating financial fair play and it's gone quiet. kinda make sense
@cyandrix8264 I understand it affects every club but to see so many people from other clubs coming to defend something that happened to other clubs is heartwarming.
@@cyandrix VAR decisions towards the end of the season, what can possibly go wrong?
Some costly mistakes, perhaps.
As a liverpool fan who has endured losing the league twice by just 1 point, this is totally unacceptable
But you've also benefited from decisions too. This is the biggest problem, the mistakes are happening league-wide. What worries me is that because it's happened in a Liverpool match, there's demand for a huge inquiry, yet why has it taken until this for PGMOL to acknowledge errors? Many of the smaller clubs have had to put up with shocking decisions for years now, and yet the officials and PGMOL stay silent.
They either need to use the rugby TMO approach, or just axe the whole thing, because the money that's being spent for this level of ineptitude is frankly beyond farcical.
@@Nightopian1982liverpool fans are too entitled
@@Nightopian1982 You're missing the point of my comment
@@dplkrtdss9805 Entitlement is speaking up against corruption???
@@adewale8759 the point of your comment being that decisions like this might mean you losing out on the title? Yes, I got that. My point in rebuttal of yours was that it's not only Liverpool this has happened to. We've seen years of decisions going against teams that could be the difference between relegation or not, European places, title races etc. We've also seen a lot of bad VAR calls the past couple of years too.
I'll be honest pal, I think some people are a bit bugged by how far Liverpool are planning on taking this, how much the media are lapping it up, and what exactly PGMOL are going to do further (they've already sacked or suspended one official). It seems there's way more fury and reaction here than any previous instances of VAR controversy. For the record, I totally understand their anger at the decisions, I've been annoyed myself as a fan, but I just don't see what else they want. They aren't going to void the result and/or rescind the cards, so unless there's an overhaul of VAR, we'll be facing similar situations in the near future! By the way, claims of corruption require some kind of evidence of such activity. Incompetence and ineptitude are different things entirely.
You know something is really, REALLY wrong when even Gary Neville openly defends Liverpool.
This is actually highly unacceptable. Bad decisions like these are gonna cost teams like Liverpool later on in the season. This sort of incompetence needs to change.
VAR already cost us a title when Everton were robbed of a penalty when a city player clearly handballed it a few seasons ago.
And they could cost teams like Tottenham.
Match fixing is big money
Surely the game should be replayed now? It's a disgrace. Could cost Liverpool the league again.
@@TheUltimateMueller I would suggest that but it'd cause fixture issues.
One of the worst decisions I've ever seen in my life. Absolutely disgraceful!!
your right, it wasn't even close.
The amount of money being thrown around in premier league football and they can't seem to get simple onside/offside decisions correct with in three match officials watching the game in person and room of officials using VAR, it's truly horrendous. Not a Liverpool fan, but this kind of error needs to have serious consequences for those involved.
It's amazing how they find new ways to mess up the use of what should be a very helpful tech every week. This was certainly a low point but not the only one
Neville quietly saying 'oh no' in the first 10 seconds is hilarious, can we please get him to do this during every news bulletin.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Apology not accepted
Sincerely,
All Liverpool fans.
Scousers are so friendly aren't they......
Apology and a point, accepted.
Or a rematch.
@@OfficialGobbledyGookerYes.
Do tell me, which fanbase(s) do you think would accept such an insignificant “apology” after being disadvantaged in such absurd circumstances?
A little more will be needed if this is to change for good, from all teams being affected by this
have a day off karen@@OfficialGobbledyGooker
As a chelsea fan, a disgrace. The referees in this country are abysmal. A game suspended won't do nothing. Its just a day off for the refs, Suspend them for the season or sack them. This refeering can really affect a title race but the PGMOL won't take action. Absolutely insane how they didn't see that was onside with all the tech that we have in VAR. People say VAR is the problem, but no, it's the referees. They're either bias or they aren't good enough. Disgraceful.
They won't as they share the same lodge.
As a Spurs fan I feel for Liverpool here. I was sitting there watching at home and thinking this is surely going to be overturned and the goal awarded, as everyone and their dog and gran could see Romero's leg playing Diaz onside, with the pitch lines helping in addition.
A serious reveiw needs to happen.
I will even say I thought the red card and 1st Jota yellow were harsh.
I have always been a fan of VAR to ensure fairness and the right calls are made that would normally slip through and have massive consequences, but if VAR is then incorrectly overturning decisions, or not intervening correctly, then get rid and go back to trust in just the officials on the pitch.
Personally I want to know that my team has won fairly, and not just for draws and loses.
Absolutely disgraceful. I’m not a Liverpool fan, but something needs to be done by this. Absolute insanity
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Why they said no to the semi automated offside system they use around Europe I will never know because that's how smooth, quick and accurate offside checks should look
England is a disgrace to European football
Fully agree. VAR officials need investigating.
@@shivutd Because British people are "special" and need to do everything differently.
As an LFC fan I never thought I'd say this. Nice one Gary for calling the corruption, no sorry wrong word, incompetence out on air. PGMOL should be investigated immediately.
Couldn't agree more, there is something rotten within the pgmol and there should have police investigations years ago.
it's possible to be a massive fan of a club, and still see things like this objectively
As a Spurs fan, I really don't think it's corruption, just terrible decision making and lack of competance from VAR. The thing is, if every club's fanbase is calling it out, it can't be corruption, it comes around to negatively effect everyone, even we have had terrible decisions this season. Serious change needs to be done, as it's just terrible for football going forward, means no one is happy and even Spurs fans like me can't properly celebrate a win tonight.
But watching the game live he said it was offside even after watching the replay
Yeah but Gary at the time says it's offside himself!
We as football fans, of whichever club want correct decisions. It doesn't matter who you support. Integrity and honesty is better than admitting you made a mistake.
"Checking goal for offside"
"Check complete"
"Err Simon, why have Spurs taken a free kick"
A total shame to the epl.
Liverpool disgraced the epl with those two red card challenges.....
@OfficialGobbledyGooker trying so hard mate, you're head must be fried
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
It seems obvious that you haven't watched the game. @@OfficialGobbledyGooker
Cancel VAR. it’s a sham. What’s the point in having it if they’re missing it.
VAR needs its own independent body to review what’s supposed to be an independent body. Absolute joke in this day and age. The PGMOL statement isn’t enough. This match fixture should be replayed and come with heavy, independent fines for the officials. This is coming from a fan of neither clubs. Embarrassing.
Funny how this performance comes after city's loss to wolves. I'm sure Hooper was aware of what that meant for the table leading up to this game....
@@timeisontheessence Cry more.
I agree. VAR that can run rampant without any fear of punishment is too open for corruption or foul play.
The worst of it is that any club can get on the bad side of VAR and all they get is an acknowledgement of error from PGMOL. They need to adhere to their own rules and pay fines for their errors.
It's easy handing out fines to coaches and players for speaking out of emotions during a game. But somehow they're free of judgement when our English league is infamous for the worst officials and refereeing body.
So comical.
Gaming commissions regulate crooked tables. This sport should not be gambled on
@@EliasRoyyou must be 13.
an adult understands the importance of pointing out errors. no matter what club it effects.
next saturday its your team.
and youll be crying.
This hurts, so much. It’s hard to put into words but it’s bittersweet because after last season I saw heart in the team. That was beautiful. 9 against 11 and they didn’t have a way through. YNWA
Wasn’t a human error. It was on purpose. No one can screw up that bad!!!
As a Utd fan I never believed Liverpool fans when they said the league was rigged for City’s favour. But after city losing today I wondered whether something would happen to favour them and it was so painfully obvious with that Diaz disallowed goal. Everyone could see he was on by about a foot and the skipping over it so quickly without even drawing lines screams of corruption at the highest level
Its not a mistake, its pure corruption.
Tin foil hat time babyyy!
EXACTLY
This happens alot with city, whoever threatens them gets bad decision it happened to arsenal last season, Liverpool the years before that. The only consistent thing about the refs is how the 'poor decisions' favour oil run clubs
They have always been corrupting this League and it will always affecting Liverpool it’s so sad put what can we do ??
As an arsenal fan it's just unbelievable at this stage, you can see even without the lines that he's onside, there is no excuse. And don't even get me started on that referee today.
At least it’s not just us getting these ridiculous decisions…. Funny how it happens to City’s rivals….
Same here .he was card happy had a mare
What if you weren't an Arsenal fan...?
I'm a red and have said this for a few seasons now...I don't care if it's a decision against my own team, as long as it's correct. I'm starting to believe that there are big bets going on, on these games somewhere in the world!. Look at yourselves against Brentford last season.
@@TwistedSoul2002 what are you yapping about? The Wolves player who scored the winner should’ve been sent off.
Can we also talk about both of the unnecessary red cards? Two men down, an onside goal disallowed is completely robbery and blatant incompetence. This needs a FULL REVIEW AND INVESTIGATION by a third party because obviously PGMOL can't get it right.
Disgraceful.
Mistakes like this not only anger fans but makes fans ask if the fix is in for teams and an apology just doesnt cut it.
Gary Neville just saying “Oh No” through out. 😂😂😂
As a West Ham fan I feel for Liverpool here, what a total disgrace. It’s ruining the game we all cherish and love. Some serious investigation is needed! Never thought I’d enjoy a Neville interview either 😂.
Replay the game
It's not ruining the game, the refs without VAR get these offside calls wrong all the time. But the fact they still sometimes getting it wrong with VAR is genuinely embarrassing.
It's also unacceptable for players to be diving, cheating, faking injury etc
Great to see fans from all clubs coming together on this one. Something strange is going on.
Apparently the VAR thought the goal had been given, so when they checked and saw the player was onside and said check complete, they thought they were confirming that it was a legitimate goal whereas they were confirming the actual on-field decision that it was offside. This explains why the check was completed so quickly as it was pretty obvious even without drawing lines that the player was onside.
It still beggars belief that the VAR didn't know that the goal had been called offside, there's clearly a communication breakdown or the VAR wasn't paying proper attention to the game or got confused somehow. And why just say check complete, why not clearly state the outcome of the check. If they'd said the player was onside, or the goal stands, then the on-field ref would have reversed the offside decision.
this wasnt robbery, this was downright corruption. The Jones tackle was never a red card, Diaz was clearly onside even to the naked eye, Jota's first yellow wasnt even a foul let alone a yellow. These refs need to be sacked and this game needs to be replayed, theres no other way around this. A serious invesitgation needs to be done here by an independent body. Imagine the scenario we lose the league by 3 points, we can clearly say the refs have cost us the league and also money.
Only corruption when it's against Liverpool......
Simon Hooper is also the ref that didn’t give the pen for Wolves, how can you make two ‘clear and obvious errors’ in 7 games and have nothing happen to you
@@OfficialGobbledyGookerno, not just against liverpool. any football fan with half a brain can see it happens constantly
Steady lad 😂 "corruption" is a strong word
@@JonasRodgerslol jota first yellow the spurs player tripped on his own
Never thought I'd say this but I feel for Liverpool here. Shocking decision 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Zayden842OK
This decision against Liverpool fills me with absolute joy
@@stephenkent4618but still wrong
The only plausible explanation is that VAR must have thought that the offsides call from the linesman was made before the goal was scored. If that were the case, then yes, VAR can't intervene because the play is dead at the point of the call, which would have been before the goal was scored. But, that's not what happened here. The linesman waited to call offsides AFTER the goal, which is what linesmen are told to do so that the entire play is reviewable by VAR.
@@Darwizzy_TheGoat-LFConce in so many years refs favoured someone else instead of Liverpool
When league titles are lost by 1pt at times. It makes it even harder to take.
This applies to all teams
Gary repeatedly saying "Oh no" is so funny 😂😂
Not really
Even as a spurs fan this is unacceptable because it could literally happen to anyone. Games should be won fair and square. Sorry liverpool fans.
It's not your fault buddy nothing to be sorry for... the refs need to be sorry.
Well played lad 👏 for the benefit of the beautiful game the corruption needs to end, may the best team win
points can still be split. if its against the rules. change rules
@@nourishcherish9593the match should be replayed
@@uzairjhd9685 thats not possible. Not easy as it said. Splitting points is the remedy for now
The reason why this is so shocking is because VAR is meant to correct mistakes. How can the group of individuals in the VAR booth collectively get something this simple wrong? It's madness. Fire them and get people who actually have common sense reviewing things.
Howard “ManYoo” Webb should be sacked
@@tf2368United have had similarly shocking VAR decisions go against them too. It’s VAR as a whole that’s a mess not somebody being biased
They did everything correct except for the communication part with the main ref.
Linesman called it offside at first so original ref’s verdict was to disallow the goal. And the VAR booth only said ‘Check complete’ not paying attention that the verdict by the main ref was offside. They should have just communicated it better
I'm saying this isn't a mistake..how can 4 persons in a booth make that mistake..at least one should've looked and made the right decision
Dont be stupid 4 people in VAR , 3 refs and other staff that are supposed to have control ove the game.
This is no mistake , its clear match fixing for the bookies!
They should allow the coaches to call for a review of the call like in the NFL; each team would get 2 calls per halves or per game.
The coach's challenge rules are pretty simple:
The coach must throw a challenge flag before the start of the next play. Once the next play is underway, a coach can no longer challenge.
Both teams in an NFL game start with two challenges. Those are the only two challenges that teams get for the duration of the game.
Even me as a Spurs fan could see that Diaz was onside, didn't need to even look at it twice nevermind having technology to assist you. Don't think Jota should've been sent either. Jones was unlucky with how he landed but i did think it was a red. Didn't learn a lot about Spurs yesterday though, would've much preferred the full 90 to be 11 v 11.
I watched this game from Australia and never in my entire life have I witnessed such blatant corruption in a football match. A match decided not by the two teams but by both onfield officials and disgraceful VAR. Liverpool were never going to win this game if they had anything to do about it, and so it turned out.
I for one wont be watching the PL until bank accounts are checked as part of a full investigation.
Only if people stop paying for subscriptions will this improve - hit them where it hurts...
watch Spurs vs Brighton from last season. Also a referee shitshow, that favored spurs
Who the hell would be paying for tottenham to win a game 😂😂😂
@@RBernsCarterArabs or Jews
Corruption for sure!
I'm not even a Liverpool fan, I'm a City fan and that was absolutely unacceptable from these officials. Who's to hold them accountable for stuff like this cause if there isn't any action done, then how is it fair on the teams that are disadvantaged?
if you're a city fan, better don't say anything, because the Arabs are behind these decisions, so your team has a chance to win the title again. Remember Rodri's handball? VAR said nothing. Please... 🤫
This is where rivalries need to be put aside! If pgmol want to redeem themselves that little bit? Give spurs and Liverpool a point simple!
Screw all of that. If they are admitting they could not officiate the match correctly the whole match should be void. Simple. There are plenty of Non-EFL-FA-Europe mid week available fixtures to rework this and other already botched matches. Make an open admission of failure and say "The matches were not played with fairness at the heart of the sport, so replay them."@@mymemories925
@@mymemories925 cos they have to pleasw the bookies n betting follk
Bro I'm a spurs fan and we dont deserve the win at all we were playing poorly against 9 man, Liverpool defensive was really good tho but the VAR decision was unacceptable, and I cant believe my fellow spurs fans still celebrating this win...
the fact that someone could get into football today learn about offside and watch this clip could tell that its onside, and yet 3 men in the var room who have been doing this job for years cant see it tells you everything.
I’m a spurs fan so I’m obviously happy with the result but that offside not being checked by VAR is an absolute shambles and a disgrace to the premier league
@@chandraswaroop2061 Why such a comment ? He was being honest.
@@chandraswaroop2061 weird flex we ain’t got one mate not that that was anything to do with what I said but ok 👍
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change now
You shouldn't even be referring to it as offsides because it wasn't. Period.
@@symoredollaz610Grow up mate. I'm a Liverpool fan but nice to see a spurs fan call it out. We're all happy until it affects our team and it will affect every team because every single ref is crap.
Absolute disgrace, we were robbed of a clearly ONSIDE GOAL
Cry more 😂😂😂.....
Was offside so cry
@@cool068 should’ve gone Specsavers mate
@@OfficialGobbledyGooker sorry, we are still top 4 in the table unlike chelshit
@@OfficialGobbledyGooker15th, 1 billion spent, CRY MORE 😂😂😂
May be biased as an Arsenal fan but such a shocking error that cost Liverpool. I think pressure needs to be put collectively by all Premier League teams to have a complete overhaul of the VAR officials and VAR itself
That bit when he said "Oh no" really shed new light on the matter.
I’m not a Liverpool fan. But I don’t like this happening because it can and will happen to your team eventually as well. Typically the linesman is told to NOT flag offsides and allow VAR to reviews it after the goal. So the fact that it was called offsides to begin with was strange. Then without ANY lines you can see it was clearly onsides. This is more then a human error.
That's inaccurate. The linesman is told to hold the flag until play has concluded in order not to affect the play, as he did here.
I'll have to watch the game again, but I don't think the linesman called offsides before the goal was scored. This allows VAR to review it. Had the linesman called offsides before the goal, VAR cannot review it because the play is dead when the offsides is called, which would be before the goal. Therefore, it's not reviewable.
They are corrupt. Simple as that,they knew exactly what they were doing.
...or not doing - human "error". They also knew what they were doing when they presented the Jones tackle still the way they did, and for the length of time that they did, and then only show slow mo footage from just one angle@@terrypage358
Well, already happened to us. Forgot to draw the lines in Arsenal vs brentford last season.
The only way to fix VAR it is to allow coaches to challenge a call like they do in the NFL. It forces the ref to look at the monitor and make the decision.
That will mean Klopp crying every game if a decision goes against him.....
@@OfficialGobbledyGooker surely they would only allow them to have a set amount of challenges. Say three like they do in cricket (if I'm not mistaken)
Dude. We have the technology that no one would ever argue anything over it. Look at how they do it in World Cup and UCL. They just prefer this for corruption
@@OfficialGobbledyGookereach team could have a certain amount of reviews
If the review is proves to be correct they don’t lose the review
@@OfficialGobbledyGookerthis isnt just going against him. The pgmol came out and said they messed up. Anybody would be upset, especially during potentially one of the biggest games of the season
I think with VAR going forward any mistake like that should be rectified during the game or after. The goal should stand. Be given to the team and the end resulted corrected. Then there would be no conspiracyy theories started about officials being in the Middle East a few days before. IT would also be fair...which is what VAR is all about.
City Fan. Completely felt for Liverpool here. I felt SO bad for Matip at the end, but this clear and obvious error is just the cherry on top of a very, very disgusting cake.
The refs taking the goal to VAR was already bad enough, but a real kick in the balls was the fact that THE LINES WEREN’T EVEN PUT ON THE SCREEN
Match fixing
😂 tell yourself whatever you need to mate 😂
@@tims5268he’s not telling himself it it’s just true
@@tims5268 everything I said literally happened in the game, did you even watch it?
@@tims5268drop your address mate ill tell you something in person
When Neville is defending Liverpool you know it’s not right
I don't think he was defending Liverpool per se. He was calling it for what it was, a combination of shocking decisions which ruined the game.
Not one pundit will go as far to say that it's nefarious. Another disappointing fact to this situation. Someone needs to stand up.
We don’t want an apology, that doesn’t cut it, we want a match replay.
That would be lit
They have one job to do. That's it. So many errors this season. Who will it be next week. Clubs need to come together on this. The integrity of the game is at stake.
It's really a concern 😟
The integrity of the game is 100% compromised
@@davyprendergast82 non conformity
It's football, there is zero integrity. Winning is all that matters.
Absolutely outrageous, is inconceivable that these types of "errors" are happening in the EPL. Luis Diaz was clearly onside.
English PL refs are the worst in the world. They have no business officiating anything. This is a clear example.
@@iu2 Spot on!
The only "human error" was taking the huge bung. That offside was the most corrupt decision I have seen in fifty years of watching football. It makes me wonder if there is any point continuing to watch the game. None of the match officials should ever work again. It absolutely stinks.
@@MichaelPepera Thank you!
@oldbloke135 I have to disagree on one point. Drogba goal for Chelsea at United that won them the title was the most blatant offside ever he was 2 yards offside and for some reason lino never saw it😮
PGMOL : "sorry for the mistake and we promise to do it again"
The Luis Diaz goal that was called off wrongly reminds me of raheem sterling while still at Liverpool vs Manchester city.he scored and his goal ruled offside.the replay showed him recieving the ball from the Liverpool's half so tou cant be offside in your own half.the mal pracices by English officials have so long been swept under rhe carpet but now its becoming to obvious.someone with authority needs to do something before we lose our beautiful game of football.
If it takes 2 red cards, a wrongfully disallowed goal, a corrupt referee and an own goal to beat Liverpool we will achieve great things. YNWA
U do realised it was ur self's that got the red cards
So you're saying that you played poor then......
@@OfficialGobbledyGooker I’m saying the refs played poor
All the bad luck we could have had this season...got dished out in one game. That's my glass-half-full take on it, and i still think we can win the league.
"corrupt" 😂😂😂😂😂
The way Klopp conducted himself was fantastic. And im glad that FOOTBALL fans, regardless of who they support, can see the obvious injustice in this instance.
Whoever was behind VAR last night needs to get sacked, simple as that. No excuse for that, it’s complete incompetency.
The VAR teams need to be retrained. It's absolutely ridiculous.
A few years ago at my place of work, my entire department was replaced because our Quality Assessment results wasn't up to scratch. As a team, we made nowhere near as much mistakes as VAR seem to make. There seems to be at least 1 embarrassing mistake every gameweek. VAR are getting away with mistakes far too often.
Gary Neville is right. They need to use the correct camera angles. If that means football clubs are forced into putting in more cameras to cover more angles, then so be it.
I'm sorry but it felt like the officials wanted Liverpool to absolutely lose today because every decision went against them. The red cards you can sometimes expect but the VAR decision felt like blatant cheating because of how quick it was checked.
We got Taxed 😂
Video assistant tax?
I thought Wolves was bad ( 9 yellows & 2 reds not given ) Then i saw this . When a ref is crap , we expect that like the Wolves game he was shocking but video refs have the time to look at it analyse it .Id ask for a replay of the game & wipe those 2 red cards as Null & Void
And the fact that both the commentators and pundit panel at half time and after the game just brushed over it like it was nothing... Like they were all in on it from the higher ups...
Boo! You should have left it as 'VAT'
var now has got the famous gary neville “oh no” 😂😂
What a disgrace! I'm a Man United fan and I think that a re-match has to be held. The match was so important because the winner of this season could've changed. Liverpool had a momentum to be placed on the 1st place of the table and they could've made it. Even if the match had ended draw, Liverpool could've been on the 2nd place. It's a huge disgrace. It should never have happened.
Seven games into the season is not a pivotal moment, sorry. I do agree that something has to be done, but replaying games is just ridiculous, otherwise we'll be replaying virtually every game. Or would you have criteria for replays depending on how many bad decisions there were? It'd never work and there'd be bedlam amongst clubs and managers. The thing with PGMOL giving acknowledgement/apologies for bad decisions also sets a precedent, because now they'll be expected to do so after every game where we have poor calls. Some will say that they should apologise, of course, but I worry what road we're going down with VAR now. Personally I think we should just bin the whole thing in its current form, or alter it to TMO style. Also a United fan.
Re-match? No way. It would create utter chaos. Oh, I feel for Liverpool. Well, let's view the Dutch Rules, not VAR, but other things that happened last week. Ajax-Feijenoord was definitely cancelled after Fireworks thrown on the pitch, AGAIN! A week earlier, the same happened in the 1st Division. And throwing Paper or Plastic Bekers on the Pitch will cause the game to be halted.
@@johannesbluemink4581 I also feel sorry for Liverpool, but only a little, because a lot of their fans are usually mocking United for getting beaten or drawing when decisions have gone against them. It's a bit rich coming from fans of big clubs anyway. Replaying games because of wrong calls from officials would be a nightmare. Imagine the complaints about fixture congestion and players getting injured. Also, how would you determine a replay? If there was one wrong decision, or two/three?
Bullshit, there's been so many mistakes and Man U and Liverpool were the recipient of so many in their favour.
I was shocked that VAR upheld the offside for that Diaz goal. They didn't even bother to use the lines. It has to be corruption, nothing else can explain that.
They didn’t even check it.
Even if the tech didn’t work you have to go with onfield decision, the linesman didn’t flag so should have been awarded anyway. So yes it’s corruption
Gary’s “oh noe” is golden, NPC vibes 😂
This needs to be replayed
The VAR actually got his decision right. He thought there was an onfield goal which he didn't overturn. It's the communication which should be more clear. Just like in the air traffic controller languange. Check complete gives way too much room for error. The VAR should state the correct decision and then the referee should confirm or read back.
Even as a spurs fan, i couldnt understand how this wasnt onside, we got lucky tonight, gotta give Liverpool credit from there performance tonight
Cheers lad with 9 men i thought we did sendational to not let any in
This match was fixed....Dodgy refreing
Keep in mind title races the last few years have come down to ONE POINT. This embarrassment could have huge, embarrassing repercussions, on the title race.
Yep, they allowed Rodri's handball against palace, costed lfc the title.
Edit: Not palace but Everton
Say yes to supper league say no to premier league The PL is corrupt we need change
Before i hated the super league. But like you said in your comment , since the PL is more corrupt than American politics, I think the super league should exist. Also, if more decision goes wrong to any team I’m not watching the PL. I think other fans should do the same.
It’s supposed to.
@@zayanislam6497Just watch illegal streams
This is exactly why the referees should be mic'd up so we can actually hear where their incompetence stems from
2:03 is the angle they used in the box to examine the goal and from that particular angle, it looks like Diaz is offside. That was a grave mistake to not view and 2nd and 3rd angle before waiving the goal off.
Corruption pure and simple. No excuses for it. Someone is getting paid off for these 'mistakes'.
It's far more likely it's actually a human error. Humans make errors all the time, even massive ones, at all levels of expertise.
I mean why not draw the lines for the offside, first red card fine atleast they checked it (eventhough i totally disagree with the decision)@@mathjoker
@@mathjoker This wasn't a mistake. It was clear corruption. They could ask the ref to review the yellow card for Jones but could not draw even a single line for an offside goal that looked onside to even the normal eye no matter what angle you looked at it. This is NOT a mistake
This is inexcusable. How can they admit they got it wrong right after the game? Why not take the extra 30 seconds and actually check it? Amazing this is the third or 4th time they've come out after a Liverpool game and said they made a mistske. Its getting to the point where it has to be on purpose
Of course it is on purpose. City have an infinite amount of money and the PGMOL want to share in the wealth. The game is totally corrupt.
Neville’s hit the nail on the head with this one. Not picking the right cameras and choosing wrong lines means corruption to me.
Gary saying "oh no" 3x is so funny
Thank you Gary...as a Liverpool fan i have to say this...firstly, i have never seen so many cards thrown around like confetti before, secondly, Diaz was onside, third and last....i took longer blowing my nose than the VAR took to make that decision... it's atrocious.
I'm a man utd fan and i think you were robbed yesterday. Really awful stuff. Rivalry between teams is great but yesterday was about something sinister and nasty that will have a horrible impact on the game for all of us. . Klopp is a legend, you lucky so and sos! 😀
@@kangamangus95 cool man... was a bad day in someones office today, especially with Klopp on the other side of it 😂
The red cards were justified in my opinion (1st one was a shocker), however that offside decision was genuinely appalling. The officials have no accountability, and had the nerve to put out a "we did an oopsie, hihi" statement
@@cyandrix I wasn't happy with Jota's playing at all..you could see Salah playing more of the go too position centre forward after Jota went off.. that second red was unintentional but worthy of the red ....we as Liverpool deserved at least the draw...quite unfortunate not to get the win...if Diaz goal was allowed it would have changed everything..just my opinion.
The got a promise for future riches from Mansour in UAE to destroy Liverpool's title race
Even Spurs fans including myself know that was obviously onside. Yeah, we got the win, but didn't deserve it. When something like this ruins one of our games in the future, I'll be livid. It's just not good for football, no matter if my team wins.
It will happen to you sometime in the future. The whole league and football is just pure coruption and it has gotten worse
I hope it happens to you every match forward
didnt deserve it haha they kicked lumps out of us and parked the bus🤣🤣
As they say through adversity you grow stronger.. we move on football isn’t always about winning but how the players react. I can say them Liverpool players but their everything into that game. It’s sickening that the officials take it open themselves to dictate games.. it’s happened before where they blamed the camera even though they are all calibrated at the beginning of the season and checked before every match.
Liverpool were already down to ten men when diaz scored so probably would of lost anyway🤣🤣@@cooltrainerorote2257
They keep saying, the AI isn't ready to be implemented, but looking at this and other decisions this season, i can not imagine the AI, even the "not ready" one, doing worse than this...
Me as a Liverpool fan feeling like the world is against us..
One error and the world is against u 😂😂😂😂 how many times have livarpool been helped by var. Its bad but karma
okay so they have acknowledeged that they made a mistake, but what's the point? are they gonna get their points back? how is it gonna give back what liverpool were robbed off? Honestly, every single time this happens, they just apologize thinking its all solved, and then go on to repeat the same things again. If you aren't gonna give the points or have the match replayed n stuff like this, why can't you just fix your system. This is honestly so frustrating and tiring man, just kills the love of the game.
Gary Neville is an absolutely fantastic pundit. Regardless of bias or preference he speaks the truth and it's quite admirable.
He didn't speak the truth about the Liverpool sending offs. Both were justified reds/2nd yellows
lol
@@Michael-fc7nonah jota wasn’t in my opinion first yellow was stupid
@@Michael-fc7no Absolutely not. The straight red is only a straight red to people who have never played the game.
@@Michael-fc7noI agree the red Jones got is a straight red and there's no reason for a player to ever make a challenge like that. However the 2 yellows Jota got in an interval of under 5 minutes were pretty absurd.
First one is a clearly accidental soft contact with the opponents heel (not even his toes, so could hardly argue it's a trip). Something like that is a soft foul, definitely not a yellow.
The second yellow was also pretty harsh. Yes he got none of the ball, but it was a pretty soft low tackle. It's fair to give a first yellow for something like that, but to give a second is overkill.
Neville saying he thought he was on but in the commentary saying he’s just off😂
It states that the PGMOL have vision scientists in helping the referees make the right decision. 😂
Its not an error its corruption. Literally obvious he was onside by lines on the pitch.
The penalty area line is quite different though, the angle is really confusing as well. If I go by the pitch line, then sure, onside. But pitch lines aren't "official", so to speak. Otherwise? Who the hell knows?
@ondrejturecek2850 the pitch lines aren't official but they are 100% straight. The penalty area line isn't in question here. Its obvious he's onside either way.
@@ondrej1893 you are watching a video explaining they have released their official statement saying it was onside and you’re still trying to argue it could’ve been offside? 😂
I am annoyed as a Spurs fan, of course I am happy for the 3 points but I wanted us to get them by winning the game without interference, it would've been a great game with lots of goals. But it was ruined, the Red was also harsh... I want to see my teams improvement when playing vs a good side, sadly that didn't happen. This just makes all fans on all sides upset (Liverpool fans the most) but Spurs fans will also feel like others will see Spurs as a "lucky team" or a team that didn't deserve the win when we might have deserved the win if the full game was played normally.
who cares what matters is the 3 points
Fair play. All fans should be very concerned about officiating mistakes today, esp var for offside.
@@iknowball1301 No what matters is that the rules are adhered to, because the people they say oh just take the points. Your team will be next and then you'll be furious
@@iknowball1301Seriously that's what you gonna say 😳
Should be embarrassed being a spurs fan against 9 men at home with wrong officiating
Gary in this clip: We saw it in the gantry and thought that's onside. Gary during the match: Yeah, he is just offside.
They need to fire the person responsible for VAR. There should be conseuences for their intentional wrong decision.
They did the same thing last year on Arsenal vs Brentford and honestly these apologies are just unacceptable. These decisions impact the teams position on the log in the longrun. NO NO NO!!
The refs are definitely paid by oil money man city
Yep, that Brentford decision would have meant we lost the league by just 3 points !!
I know we messed up ourselves at the end, but even so !
They always do it when City are struggling strangely. 😂
@@andy.m265 it might have changed momentum completely.
@@andy.m265that Brentford game was just before Manchester city. Had Arsenal won that Brentford game they go into Manchester city with a win and greening confidence. Aswell as Arsenal having a disallowed goal against man united at old trafford Martinelli. Had that goal counted im sure arsenal would’ve won that match as they don’t lose from losing positions. That’s 6 clear points VAR cost Arsenal last season and low and behold if you gave arsenal 6 points last year they finish above city with 90 points 😂
I'm not a Liverpool fan. At all. But this is a disgrace. How the hell can we as fans ever forget this moment? VAR is a liability and a complete joke! I feel so bad for Liverpool and their fans. I would be fuming if it eas my club. That's completely unforgettable and unforgiveable. Fire that ref right now!
The VAR official (Darren England) & assistant VAR (Daniel Cook) have apparently been stood down from their appointments at games today.
@@781David Thank god for that.
@@Herbalattraction3000 It's only a week's suspension though. They'll be back unfortunately.
@@781David Two game suspension is not good enough. Darrent England needs to be sacked. Without refs being held accountable for their actions, nothing will change.
Premier league just Lost all credibility for me today not watching any more games
You can criticize the process. But you can NEVER criticize its integrity.
They did a similar thing a few weeks ago with United when they claimed that the ball had gone out of play before Rashford crossed the ball. They showed one camera angle where the ball looked like it had gone out, and then they flashed another camera angle for a split second where the ball looked like it _hadn't_ gone out. Then they flashed back to the first camera angle again and used that to make the decision.
The refs in the VAR office really need to be held accountable when they make bad decisions like this, because they're often making multi million pound decisions that can affect titles, careers, and even relegations.
VAR officials should be making decisions like their job depends on it.
That’s not unbelievable.. that’s criminal!
It’s absolutely disgraceful. It’s so bad I don’t think it’s incompetence. Which leads me to believe it was something worse
I totally agree with yoh here.