How & Why Toyota reinvented the 2024 Toyota Tacoma!
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- MotoMan sits down with Sheldon Brown, the Chief Engineer of the Tacoma for a deep dive on the 2024 @toyotausa Tacoma. They cover everything from the move to a single motor hybrid, to a new, in house overland model, the @TOYOTAglobal Tacoma Trailhunter to the challenge of bringing back a manual transmission . . .and much more!
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Sheldon Brown might be the best human being in the car industry, love his gd passion
We have spoken with many of them and he is WAYYYY up there!
Hoping to get my next Tacoma in a manual. I’m tired of the gear hunting with these automatics.
Interviewer needs to drop the arrogance.
I’m dying to see the new Taco in person.
Same here, i want to purchase one next year ; im just hoping that interest rates come down and that dealers work with their customers to make prices affordable.
I'd love to get my hands on one but I'm not paying markup (which many Toyota dealers are still charging on all models), and this will be a very high demand vehicle for them. I expect availability to be in short supply for a while. Realistically it will probably be 2 or 3 years before they're easy to find without markups.
I'm still curious to see the fuel economy, particularly on the hybrid model. There was a slip-up on the 2024 Land Cruiser page that claimed 27 mpg combined for that vehicle with the same powertrain. If this truck can achieve 26-27 mpg combined (in real world conditions), it will be an absolute game changer, especially with the performance the hybrid max is sure to deliver.
I saw two of em! TRD Off-Road in Solar Octane and TRD-Sport in whatever they're calling blue 💙
Excellent episode. More of these longer form, more in-depth interviews on vehicle development. Maybe one on the new Land cruiser/ Lexus GX
Thank you for the great feedback . . . Definitely more on the way!
Ordering a 24 trd pro asap. I would definitely go with the manual transmission if it was available
The manual, manual, manual, is a must!!! I wish it would be in the highest lineup, as you mentioned in the interview. The manual transmission has become iconic and for those that love to drive, and we will pay to keep it around.
Great episode! Love the passion the product planners have for their products and how customer focused they are. Would have loved to see some engineering diagrams and a breakdown of the engine architecture. Savagegeese had an interview like this regarding the Colorado and did a complete breakdown on GM’s 2.7T which was quite interesting how they created the engine for durability and flexibility.
My one ask is to set a nationally advertised price with a reasonable MSRP to avoid all the dealer add-on fees and hassles.
It looks like this new generation is gonna be awesome! I would prefer to wait until the 2 to 3rd year for Toyota to work out all the bugs...don't know if I can wait that long though:)
I’m glad they kept the manual transmission BUT the lack of rear suicide doors is a huge miss for me!
I’ve had an “extra cab” without doors and it is a pain to pack and access gear in the back… I will stick with Nissan Frontier.
I agree. I actually took ownership of a 2023 Access Cab. I would not buy the new one without the doors.
Corporate Toyota seems really cool but their dealers are just awful. Makes you feel like a pig being pushed through a slaughterhouse.
Excellent! Sheldon Brown is a guy that I feel I could just sit back and chat vehicles for hours. I really enjoy these types of interviews and format with engineers of vehicles I’m interested.
As far as product packaging requests, ideally I would like the ability to spec:
1. TRD ORP with the Ventilated Seats, Signature LED headlights and even HUD.
2. Limited trim without chrome. Black chrome or black would be more palatable. Likely already in product roadmap, but not at launch; Limited Nightshade. Offer that at launch and I’d bet the team would realize a higher percentage of Limited sales. Many, not all, dislike the chrome on that trim. Don’t make us wait two years for the release of that sub-trim!
Colors… we need another Cavalry Blue or even a brighter Neptune Blue type color offered on Tacoma on the new generation!
Hybrid + Turbo? Hard pass. Ill keep my reliable simple V6. Secondly, I was really hoping for 4wd full time or awd across the entire product line in addition to 4wd part time. Having 4wd on mixed wet/dry pavement is crucial for those living above the mason dixon line. My current tacoma is just a pain when I need more traction but will encounter dry pavement or tight turns. Ford has a nice system for this
the 2024 tacoma limited has full time 4wd.
Awesome video. Great info, detail and passion from these guys. THE best trucks made.
I want a front locker option on TRD off road and standard on trail hunter. Living in Colorado a front locker is a worthy cost addition.
The manual has me seriously considering a new Taco. A full roll down rear window like the Tundra would have had be waiting in line to drop my deposit. Get rid of that tiny slider!
Before I watched this I would never be considering a new Tacoma. After watching this, and learning about a third pedal, I’m considering a Tacoma.
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I would love a manual extended cap in a TRD and pay for it.
Can you get 4WD on the XtraCab? Also, can we FINALLY get yellow as a TRD Pro color? And purple??
I'm a manual enthusiast and I currently own 2 of them, but even I'm getting tired of this line of questioning. Every manual guy, myself included in years past, don't understand that it's all about economies of scale and emissions standards. It's simply not worth fighting for when the manufacturers KNOW they won't sell enough to get a ROI, not to mention them dragging down their fleet fuel economy numbers. The thing that frustrates me the most is that 90% of the so called enthusiasts that whine about disappearing manuals don't buy them when they are available, so whose fault is it that they're going away?
Appreciate where you are coming from however there are many of us that do indeed seek out cars fitted with manuals and vote with our wallets.
@MotoManTV not enough of us are...unfortunately cars are more reliable, wages haven't kept up, and decreasing numbers of enthusiasts finding options that fit our needs.
Hear ya and that is indeed a different conversation. One I have had with many folks on camera. Here is one example: th-cam.com/video/ztghuJfKAgI/w-d-xo.html
We love our manuals. And we do vote with our wallets
The BEST thing about a manual is.... you never have to readjust your mirrors or seating position.
Nice interview. I hope the price will be affordable because I’ve been saving for this truck and based on what I’ve seen it did not fail my expectation.
Personally I am skeptical as I have been over the Tundra/Sequoia turbo v6. It's Toyota or I wouldn't even entertain it. But trucks are crazy expensive these days. Crazy expensive. It's a lot of money to pay for a 4 banger regardless. But being a turbo 4 banger is a gamble in my book. I am sure Toyota has tested and perfected it, but it's still a turbo 4 banger.
Killing the access cab was such a poor a decision. Use mine multiple times a day. Sheldon needs to do a ride along with me to show him how much I use them. They made the utility trim have less utility. Have owned Toyotas for 30+ years, Toyota never fails to be a let down. They always seem to get a few things wrong, next vehicle purchase will most likely be a Ford F150 Super Cab. That and, us die hards want diesel not a hybrid, easy 30 mpgs, have it run on biofuel like they have available in Europe for emissions regs. See the new Land Cruiser Prado is getting a hybrid diesel, that plus biofuel, isn’t that even better for the environment?
Id like to see a xtra cab with a manual option 😁
So happy they kept the standard transmission
As far as feedback goes to Mr.Brown in regard to the 2024 Tacoma, here are my personal thoughts:
Things that I love: I absolutely love the design and look of this truck it's been in NEED of a refresh for quite some time now. Being in 2023, having the latest technologies in the interior was a great decision given the digital gauge cluster offers customization of the information I want to see and rolling over the infotainment screen from the Tundra. My personal favorite is the addition of the Heads-Up Display and the pop-out JBL speaker on the dash as both make the driving experience and utilization, in my opinion, game-changing technology. I also love the idea of going hybrid with the mid-size and full-size trucks as many of the other brands are jumping straight into EVs as the market for them isn't where it needs to be yet. Having all four wheels with disc brakes instead of only rear drum brakes is a HUGE improvement this time around, so I am quite happy with that.
Things I wish it had or am concerned about: Now I understand that those involved with development were somewhat limited on what they could do for the Tacoma, but I would have LOVED to see a front differential lock included on trims such as the TRD Pro and Trailhunter, more specifically the latter. While Tacoma has proven to be quite off-road capable stock, competitors of Toyota have this feature and I would have liked to know if that was something that was thought about when developing. One thing that has many concerned is will the 4-cylinder be as reliable as the V6 in previous models? It has been brought up by several content creators I follow as well as those within my group, so it's definitely a question worth asking. Last but not least, while I think gas mileage will increase given this hybrid powertrain, my biggest concern is how competitive will prices be given that many competitors also have refreshes for their vehicles and the features that they offer. I worry that while Toyota says they will not do mark-ups, I currently have seen that not to be the case. I am only thinking out loud at this point as I know he doesn't really have a say in prices, but its definitely something worth mentioning.
I like the trailhunter I just hate snorkels, free option to remove it would be nice
Manual, 2.4, leaf-spring, 4x4, short cab, long bed. In Canada... basically modern interpretation of my dad's 1985 22RE. Unlike many, I welcome the turbo for high altitude use, or maybe because I'm a Subaru guy. Really looking forward to this vehicle, even though I'm lovin' my '17 4Runner as is. And yeah, Overland Expo was an absolute Toyota-fest in the early years, even on the East Coast, making my purchase of the 4Runner a no-brainer.
Absolutely love my '21 trd with RC62F 6spd manual transmission. army green. The redesigned '24 Tacoma looks awesome. Really glad you kept the manual transmission. Since my '83 hilux every toyota was a manual. Bring back Army Green. The rear quarter panel doesn't fit the truck, no form.
Great interview with Sheldon. He’s da man and definitely put a lot of thought into the new Tacoma. Would have loved it if you would have asked about an ETA on the next gen 4Runner, but he may not have given you an answer. Looking forward to your first drive review (hopefully with Sheldon) on the new Tacoma!
I did. Also asked Mike. And Kevin Hunter (th-cam.com/video/rMyDxtNTXKE/w-d-xo.html). They all gave the same answer: 'We don't comment on future product'.
I am a big Toyota fan. Currently own 14 of them. Four of those are Tacomas. Let me be clear on this, I will never pay $75,000 for a Tacoma.
Toyota is lucky to have Sheldon Brown, great interview! It would be cool if Toyota made a Trailhunter Lite grade. Based on TRD PreRunner but 4x4, max payload suspension, 6’ bed that you can still garage would make a lot of overlanders/off-roaders happy! It looks like they have most of the parts to make this happen 😅
Yes, keep pushing for the 6 speed manual. I'm enjoying my 2021 TRD Off Road 6 speed.
Resist the radical big gov agendas!
Great interview! I don’t have a-lot to comment on other than it’s a great looking truck with a lot of options. As Sheldon mentioned, they listened to current Tacoma customers and addressed many of the short comings of the current outgoing model. I look forward to seeing this new truck in person and drive it! Also love the fact that the manual transmission is still an option!
Motoman saying 75k for a 5spd trdpro....YEAH RIGHT! He on crack!
Manual with electronic parking break? That makes no sense or whatsoever! What a shame. It needs a manual hand break
First and foremost great job on the design!!! Currently drive a 2017 Limited. Great additions from what I have seen so far with the bumpers, adjusting suspension, interior, drop down running boards, etc. Have yet to see estimated MPGs, which helped influence moving from my '04 to the '17. The one complaint from my current truck still incoming on the new Limited is chrome in abundance. I want the increased luxury, while maintaining the utility. My Tacoma is my daily, date night, long trip, and working vehicle and when I replace it the new one will take that role. Wish list for the new limited... Black out option from the factory rims to grille, to emblems, exhaust tip, and door handles. A latching gas door mmost toyotas already have these. Approach lights (aftermarket versions on my current 2017), On board compressor for all models above the SR5. Possibly a "rugged/Blackout" Limited with black flairs, mirror caps, and the previously mentioned blackout of chrome.
I'm on the waiting list for a '24 Taco with a MT. My one real concern is the electronic parking brake, I don't trust them. My superfluous gripe is that I want a physical key. Leave the push-button start for the automatics. 😂
They hit the ball out of the park with this truck. I fell in love instantly which I can't say I ever have with any vehicle before. To switch me from a car to a mid sized truck is a pat on the back to them alone, I've always been a car guy. But what absolutely sold me was the 6 speed manual. I think the only reason I went to the dealer ASAP to reserve my spot was the manual, I wouldn't have bought it otherwise.
Beautiful truck, amazing work on Toyota's part as always, a little dissapointed I had to settle for the lower TRD model in order to get a manual, but I'm still super stoked to get my hands on one. Now I just really hope the prices ain't out of this world insane. The thing that's fully going to get my in the drivers seat is the inital MSRP, and market adjustment dealer markups. I will walk out of the dealer if they try to stick my with any market adjustments, and I told them that the day I reserved.
Still hasn't been driven yet. Plus first model year is usually a lot of issues
@@PHILLIPS8822 I'm not worried. It's a Toyota, plus warranty will come in clutch. If it were a dodge or a ford, I'd be waiting a couple more years. I have full faith in the Toyota's ive owned.
Toyota was at its best when it was designed and built by the Japanese without foreign influences.
You can pay $75Gs for a midsize truck; I can think of betting things to do with my money.
That sport rack needs to be an option not standard on the Trailhunter.
More colors for TRD PRO and option for different seats…👍🏼
Would like to know how they addressed corrosion in a box frame and the cab.
Likely added zinc to the steel and coated it like gen 3
Please pre-runner with manual transmission!
Yes to the manual trd pro!!!
Too bad that wont happen.
As long as motto man doesn’t mention Dave Ramsey I’ll watch.
Some folks need to get over the V8s. If they're not putting one in the tundra clearly the tacoma will never get it. I doubt they'll ever seriously consider the v6tt
Extended cab 6 ft bed Trailhunter toocool
like the old school look of the TRD pre runner extra cab and a. 6' box ,is the one id buy
Me gusta toyota tacoma para mama vera y papa Esteban
I find it odd that you didn't feature the TRD Offroad in HI since it's one of the most popular trims. In any case, I like the redesign for the most part and I am seriously considering purchasing a TRD Offroad i-Force Max long bed 2 or 3 years down the road, after any initial launch issues are resolved. I think this hybrid powertrian looks great on paper, but looking at the numbers, it seems like you sacrificed efficiency for performance. Personally, I would have preferred a more balanced approach, something like 310hp/420lb-ft and a few more mpgs. I get that every brand is engaging in these absurd spec wars, but for those of us who buy these trucks as both commuter and adventure vehicles still want a good balance between performance, fuel economy and reliability. Also, please don't jack the price up into the stratosphere. The current get Tacoma is already overpriced, especially considering its many flaws.
Would have loved to spent more time with each trim level in Hawaii, however here is the reality of activations like that: Time is *extremely* limited. Each of us were given about an hour with ALL four cars. Extremely hard to produce a quality product in that time frame with one car, let alone four - especially something this important and complex. Sheldon was there as well, but we chose to put that off because as you can see by this film, we wanted to give this amazing engineer the proper time to tell his story.
@@MotoManTV I was referring to the Toyota organizers. I don't think they even had a TRD Offroad on site. I haven't seen any channel feature an Offroad.
I hope it's released on Taco Tuesday.
I want the Trailhunter, it has everything I would want but the iso dynamic seats. I may have to go for the Pro just to get the seats.
Don’t understand why these seats are only for the pro from what I’ve read so far.
It’s going to be hard to wait for the hybrid but it’ll be worth the wait
🙏 bring back army green. Going with the bronze oxide instead.
Agree, love Army Green.
Bronze oxide is cool.
Prices are getting ridiculous
$75k for a tricked out over the top interior manual transmission truck is THE stupidest idea! Proving most of you only care about the people that CAN afford something like that. If the new Tacoma TRD Pro undercut the canyon by a reasonable amount and came in a manual, I think you’d sell more of THOSE. Selling quantity is only a combination of desirability meeting fun quality for a reasonable price. Making something for 75-80k kicks out half the market.
The Manual will only be available on the SR, Sport, and Off Road, they will not be 75K
@@Shakerhood69 Ok, sorry. You’re not following the context of the conversation between the two gentlemen in the video. There was a “hypothetical” posed for development that I was reacting to. I’m well aware of what’s being offered on the different trim levels.
Access cab version please.
Will all new Tacomas be made in Mexico? Assembly and paint only or other manufacturing in Mexico? Extra efforts to ensure quality for 2024?
Very interesting interview thanks so much. I tow a 4000 pounds camping trailer with my ‘19 Highlander SE. I love camping, and I also love to do hiking in some remote places and I think I reached the off-road limit of my Highlander. That’s why I will order an hybrid Trd off-road. I really hope that the new Tacoma will be a better vehicle for towing but I’m sure it will be a better vehicle for off-roading. Also, I am in Quebec, Canada. It will be nice if some wheels of the current generation would fit the new one because OEM wheels are more durable for harsh winter time with ice and salt and sand as we have a second set with dedicated winter tires. I know that the hybrid model will have bigger brakes, but I hope that some oem wheels will fit, as a lot of customer buy aftermarket wheels, and it’s pretty easy to find oem ones on marketplace. Can’t wait to order my first truck. I also hope that you shared the size of the bed with cap companies so there will be models available at the same time, especially Alu-cab. One last thing: even with a weight distribution hitch my Highlander rear is lowered a 2-3 inches while towing. I really hope that my future Tacoma will be straight with my Anderson WDH. Thanks again!
Wheels are the worst place to put money. They get corroded. Stick with simple steel wheels. You csn fix steel wheels if you ding the rim unlike aluminum which will chip then you are replacing it. Any steel wheel looks great if ypu dpray it with black plasti-dip.
Steel wheels get a lot more corroded than mags wheels and they become rusty orange. Mags get also a bit affected, but keep a look that is a lot better. OEM wheels are often sold used on marketplace and really do the job for winter use. I've had 30 winters of driving in harch winter conditions with sand and calcium and salt on the road so I know what i'm talking about. Anyway it wasn't the point of my comment.@@billsoderholm3125
Motoman, stop trying to get the prices high like the rest of the overpriced truck market.
The TRD Pro with that Ice white with the Red interior had me sold on getting one. Also those lights on the sides of the bed. I know it's not standard (right???) on the Pro but my current truck I'm always finding I have to look around my truck at night and I have to use a flashlight every time and those lights seem like they would come in handy. I'd like to see a video at night of either the Pro or Trailhunter of how bright those lights on the outside of the bed are as far as distance looking toward the ground. (The area around the bed)
Good interview, but I wish you had asked him about the elephant in the room when it comes to big 4-cylinder engines: NVH. Why didn’t they go to a six cylinder, which has better NVH? Was it cost? Was it emissions? Was it fuel economy? What did they do to improve NVH on the 4-cylinder?
There is a second part of this interview coming up where we go in depth on the reliability of turbo 4s in the world of legendary Toyota reliability. Look for that on Labor Day weekend.
@@MotoManTV The GM 2.7L apparently has an open deck and runs up to 27 psi of boost, which gives me concerns about gaskets. I'll be very interested to hear what Toyota has done on the reliability front for their new 4-cylinder.
You will be intrigued by their solution.
4 Cyl turbo will only last about 10yrs top. Who cares about emission and MPG's?!Manufactures need to stop telling us what they think we need vs what we want. V8 and V6 NA motors period!
PLEASE get rid of the non-functional hood scoop! C'mon it's a truck. Everything else looks and sounds amazing. Big Thanks to Sheldon.
Can we get the information on the L4 as it pertains to durability. GM built the 2.7 for truck applications. Is Toyota taking the same approach. A truck application needs beefer engine to handle things like towing.
I really dislike the power tailgate. I'm okay with screens, but I despise when crucial features are digital, only readout or engagement. It's a truck, I use it as a truck, and I go out of cell reception. Reliability is my number 1 priority and always will be. I like physical buttons and basic instrument gauges. Past that toys are okay, but don't integrate toys to the point where if they go wrong, you lose something that you actually need.
Great interview...my only disappointment with the truck is no front locker option. I understand the traction control system will handle most situations but a truck of this caliber should offer the added capability of a front locker.
75k? I mean you can get a full size with that for that money. I just hope the TRD pro isn’t over 60k
just watched it again and the statement at 34:24 is why my next car will be a Toyota "our core focus right now is to make sure that we build every single one of those perfect every single time."
They had all this time to create this vehicle.. and couldn’t figure out a way to put a v6 into the offroad & pro. I’d have even settled for the iforce 6 in them.
Just started watching now, wonder if he mentions about the 4Runner
we need hard flat surface when folding backseat down same and 2nd and 3rd gen has (double cab)
I am of the opposite opinion, I don’t want something that is made as absolutely the cheapest it can be made….
This guy is not just a engineer he is a salesman. Take everything a sales says with a grain of salt.
I pray the trd pro can get a black interior and not that red everyone is showing.
Turbos and hybrids together with a v4 that’s a NO for me.
Wound be nice of these dealers wound not add a markup.
Please don't make Trailhunter cost an arm and a leg
I had a 2019 TRD Sport with a manual 6 speed for a couple of years. Was blown away at the time that adaptive cruise control worked so well with the third pedal. Would definitely buy one again, but one downside is if you plan to tow a heavy trailer with it, go automatic.
How much lbs can you tow with the manual?? Is it the weight or just overall driving with it that was the issue? I'm a sucker for sticks but I'm looking for a truck for a lawn care business, currently have a 5mt Corolla that I'll keep for other driving
@@ThatGuy-qg4ww Taco with factory trailer package is rated fairly high at something like 5500 lbs. I maxed it out with a 25’RV. Pulled it like a champ, but forget about backing up a small grade. You will burn up the clutch. Replaced the clutch at 60k miles (covered by extended warranty)
4 cylinder diesel how about that?
Wow, just found this second interview. Great job asking the questions I want to ask! A Tacoma is now definitely in my future.
… and it will be a manual!!!!
Need that TRD pro manual!
Looking through comments, I feel I'm the only one stunned at how bad this seems.
Government regulations. Other toyota engineer said they had no choice. That said, the engineer also said they are doing the best they can to guarantee continued toyota reliability and stringent testing. Turbo 4 cylinders, turbos in general been around a long long time. I wouldnt worry too much
On the Limited; 1. Could you please put a center Arm wrest with cup holders in the back seat! 2. Also, there is a cut out for peoples heads in the back seat. Could you just raise the ceiling height over all. My sons are 6'1. They can barely move their heads around once they sit down. 3. Please put an option like the Ford Maverick, where I can raise the tailgate halfway to allow Plywood to fit out the back.
4. Give a non chrome grill and Rims to the Limited, like a powder coated look.
We need a longboy Tacoma-based SUV. 4Runner? The Sequoia is too massive for its usable interior space but it would be nice to have essentially a really extended Landcruiser with a PROPER TAILGATE. Also, give the world an option for a dirt cheap $20k city truck like the OG Tacoma. Like, literally just take a Prius V and chop the roof off of it. It doesn't have to have all this fancy overlanding crapola.
I would buy one if the back seat could comfortable handle two adults.. Toyota, please offer a "Crew Max - Extended cab + 5" of leg room.) It would sell.
Great interview. Honest, informative. I've been waiting more than 10 years to find the right replacement for my Dakota. Full bed but will fit in garage, decent power numbers, full driver assist and safety features, and if possible the economy of a hibrid. The 2024 Tacoma could be the answer.
This project just brings the Tacoma closer to the hilux.
Why not just rebrand the hilux with a gasoline engine as the Tacoma?
AHAA... you sepeak Arabic.
You are a great journalist i like "under the belt kind of questions" :) sort of.
wish you all the best.
all the way from Arabian desert.
I’d like to see the off-road version. The pro and Trailhawk versions in my opinions are overpriced and have a lot of tacky stuff that I wouldn’t want for the money. Having owned a 3rd gen and disliking it, I’m glad they changed the powertrain. Only reason I’m considering a 4th gen. I’d like to see the MPG numbers. At a point with the economy where price and MPG are really gonna dictate my next purchase. If gas will be going back up to $4-5 a gallon in my area I may just decide to go with a Maverick due to my commute.
What a great looking truck. Love the "butchiness" of it. That hybrid is impressive.
All this means nothing if you can't get the truck. With supposedly supply constants, dealerships will continue to add mark ups if you want one when it comes out.
a twin turbo V6 2 door Tacoma Supra, lowered, on slicks, two turbos poking out of the headlights setting drag racing and half mile records.
The interviewer calling out high prices on the basis the model is ‘badass’ and ‘cool’ is a part of what is wrong with the auto industry now
I have seen this new Tacoma and it is better in person. Can’t wait for the orders to open and build my new truck. This will be number 8
Great interview! I agree with the host. Don’t care about V8. Just want the manual option in the upper trims. Thanks!
Why you haven't reviewed Model S Plaid or MX Plaid yet?
The plaids suckkkk. Quality is ass. Driven a few. I’d never get one