I just leased a ‘24 SR-5 Tacoma 4dr 2Wdr. Great payment because of projected Resale value. Incentives were terrific. Love the truck, I traded in my ‘20 Taco. No complaints.
320 lb ft of torque in this Tacoma. Same torque as the 4.7 V8 in my 4R at half the rpms. I’m buying the new Iforce Max, 465 lb ft at 1800rpms!! Great review, David.
I'll let you and others find the problems with the truck that generate recalls. I'm opting to buy a used 2023 and drive it for 2 to 3 years and then buy the new generation Tacoma after problem areas have been sorted out. Influencers praise the new Tacoma quite a bit, but I'd really like to hear from mechanics on this new truck after they've worked on them for a couple years. Moreover, the problem with hybrids is they're not suitable for DIY mechanics to perform basic maintenance. So, in addition to the out-the-door price paid for the truck, plan on paying much more in maintenance costs from Toyota service centers over the coming years. Total cost of ownership will be significantly higher. Influencers don't talk about this. Nevertheless, it's a nice truck.
New problems would be covered by warranty? No vehicle is perfect so warranty helps? I’m taking the leap but only because timing is right & really liking 6ft box with off-road package.
In the past, I changed my vehicles once every five years, but now, I keep them until the wheels fall off. If you take a good care of your Tacoma, it will outlast the 2024 one.
Thank you for the video! New Taco looks like a really nice truck however i think Toyota would have made a lot more sales in the states if they offered a V6 option. I'm sure die hard Toyota fans would have forked over extra $$$ to get a the 3.5 or 4.0 V6 proven reliability in a new Taco or LC despite those engines being old technology.
Keep in mind the US’s emission and mileage requirements. For manufacturers that is a goal, and smaller turbo engines and electric assist motors are ways to meet these requirements. Sadly, that will also equate to more RPM’s, heat, wear and tear,and a shorter engine life.
yes, agreed. The 4.0 V6 would be a nice option, my 2019 Tacoma 3.5 needed a cylinder head with 75,000 miles. $13,500 with tax at the dealer. KIA warranty looks good
@@stevestemple7358 Ouch! Sorry to hear that cylinder head issue. The 4.0 thats in the 5th Gen 4 Runner and 2nd Gen Tacoma are also used in some Land Cruisers in the world market. I have a friend with a 2nd Gen Tacoma that is his work truck and has almost 400k miles on it. Its old and its beat up but it runs strong
The biggest disappointment is that the fuel tank shrank 3 gallons. MPG is not really better so Toyota is penalizing consumers by taking away about 60 miles of range. It's sad because their packaging seems very interesting.
@@YouYou-tg7qe what the heck are you towing where you’re getting horrible range with these things? I pulled an s-10 on a tow dolly behind my 2017 2.7L sr-5. I was getting 25mpg.
Hi David, These are one of my favorite types of videos that you do when you go into your favorites about a particular vehicle… After watching this video, I will definitely consider test driving the new Tacoma… It looks beautiful from the inside all the way to the outside … I truly get an education every time I watch everyone of your videos I can’t thank you enough David🇯🇵❤️🤍🇨🇦
Yeah...kinda "kills" this point about what the government wants & controls......Anytime you get more "government" rules, control, etc., it's more likely to benefit "who" ? Definitely Not the consumer.......We need Less government .
Thanks David.Great video again as I have come to expect from you. Have ordered my Limited in blue crushed metallic with the iforce max. Maybe for Christmas next year!!! Anyway looking forward to it. We always get everything a bit later than our American friends. This will be my last new vehicle so I do expect it to last me. Keep up the great informative videos David and Merry Christmas!!!
I hate to be so bold as to ask you what you paid. I'm looking at the same unit but I'm thinking I'm going with a manual transmission as an anti-theft device. I bought the first year of the 2nd gen in 2005 and it's still going strong. But it's time for a change. Has no technology. Any additional information you could provide would be appreciated.
Toyota seems to have made great improvements with Tacoma, assuming long-term reliability is bulletproof. I'm more impressed with the new Tacoma than Tundra. Excellent video, BTW.
Definitely digging the 2.4 Turbo, but I'm staying away from the hybrid system for now. I enjoy fixing my own cars and field servicing a hybrid system doesn't seem like it would be too much fun.
If Toyota's reputation coninues to hold true, it won't need much servicing. People are getting 300k miles on these hybrid drivetrains with only replacing the battery.
The 2.4L turbo is very refined. I've driven a new RX350 for about 100 miles and was impressed with the powertrain. It will be the same, if not more low end torque for the Tacoma. I pre-ordered the TRD Sport Hybrid, looking forward to getting it sometime mid Summer 2024.
If the electronic steering fails, can you still control the vehicle? And if the electronic breaks fail, how will you break if the electronic motors fail?
I did some research on this - yes, you still have a mechanical connection to the wheels. For the breaks, I THINK they are still hydraulic brakes and the “electric” component is just the parking brake actuator on the rear discs.
Knowing all about the upcoming 2024 Tacoma I purposely just bought a 2023 Tacoma SR Access Cable 4x4 with the 4 cylinder. Love it! I admit the 2024 is better in some areas than the 2023, but the lack of rear doors on the 2024 is a deal breaker. Plus the $3500 - $4000 premium for the 2024 is not worth it IMO. And the proven Uber reliability of the 3rd gen and the 2.7 4 cylinder give great piece of mind.
Totally agree, though I opted for the V6. Needed the cargo capacity. The Access Cab is so unbelievably convenient. No way am I trading my ‘23 for a ‘24
I found that the interior seemed cheap with a lot of low-end plastics. I agree the seats were much better than the last generation, both in position and comfort.
Thank you David for this very nice review. I hear that the limited version in Canada will only be available as a Hybrid version. Do you have any information on this? Thanks, Andre.
I really like mine. Put 2k mi driving to work loaded with tools in the bed. But i came across a video, broke front strut mount after bottoming on pothole. Said there's no bump stop and upper strut mount looks to be cast aluminum that broke.
The Internet is flooded with stories of people who took it off road and we’re driving it pretty conservatively and broke the shock mounts. Because of the lack of the bump stop. The bump stop is a fundamental component that was in every previous version of the Tacoma. Why would they remove it? How stupid.
This is a big city truck. It's very nice, refined etc. The town I live in has a 25 MPH limit. Don't care about the modern engine. Keeping my "old" 22 until it dies assuming I live longer than it does.
My biggest issue with the tacoma is mileage and fuel capacity, I have a f150 4x4 with 2.7 and can average 20 mpg with a camper top, I have the extended range fuel tanks so can go 600 miles on a tank or 400 towing. I also have a 2022 tacoma 4x4 v6 ,I average about 17.5 all stock , when I fill up I can go about 300 miles is all ,and towing I have to pull in every 200 miles, so a bigger fuel tank would be nice for off roading towing ect. Another 10 gallons of fuel capacity would make the range a toyota can travel a lot nicer
I run the 2.7L Tacoma and usually get 22mpg when I drive. 19 when the lady drives it. I’ve towed an s-10 with it and got 25mpg. Try driving slower/more consistent. It’s hard to get a bigger fuel tank when you ain’t got room and cuts into weight capacity.
@scrapmanindustries how do you get 22mpg when you drive and 25 mpg towing a S10 that's impossible . My tacoma and i have had 3 of them have all had the V6 3 litter motors and they have never done great when It comes to mileage but what's a insult is when my full size F150 with a camper top and v6 gets better mileage and has more drag and weight , You can buy a extended range tank for a tacoma thru the aftermarket and it fits where the stock tank goes ,but there is no reason the factory can add 10 more gallons capacity if the aftermarket has it and it's a bolt in where the original tank goes, Toyota can do much better .
@@donm3844 usually if I’m towing normal trailers at normal speeds it doesn’t affect mileage any. But then again my usual trailers with this thing are under 3k lbs.
@scrapmanindustries I live in hilly country. So for me normal mileage is about 1-2 mpg less then if I am driving on flat ground like across Illinois or Iowa ,so when I tow my 12 foot trailer it usually knocks off 5-6 mpg in this hill country, Like I said the extended range tank for v6 owners would be wonderful, many of the guys I know that have a tacoma complain about the mileage at least in this area and would prefer a little extra range . I have a friend who had a bigger tank put in place of the stock tank that is a bolt in item, His tacoma can go around 540 miles on a tank and I am considering just getting one myself , I know if it was a option like ford and others have , I would definately spend the extra dollars for it .
The problem with the Toyota tacoma' s they are falling into the same trap all auto makers are making ,they are overpriced and too many gimmicks, and putting a 4 cylinder engine in it ,
David has owned so many vehicles , I don’t think he should be allowed to call any vehicle his favorite 😂. He loves them all, no such thing as having a favorite.
I saw a price list of the different trim levels. I'm wondering why the SR5 trim doesn't get a 6MT and the SR and TRDs get it. Also since they are offering the 6MT in this, I'm hopeful the next 4Runner will be get manuals🤞🏼
Why doesn't Toyota make 4x4 trucks with a transfer case that also have a differential (either open or limited-slip one)? It would allow driving in 4L and 4H modes on non-slippery surfaces, not only on mud and ice. What are other reasons in addition to cost saving?
Same tightness on the 2024.....although they have a little more headroom. Never understood why Toyota couldn't build a Taco almost the same as a 4runner? Much more comfortable, plenty of room in rear seat area for both head & leg room, much more comfortable, smooth transmission.....disc brakes on all 4 wheels......and I think the frame & springs are better. They could have saved themselves manufacturing & parts money, & passed this on to the loyal devoted Toyota lovers.....
I’m looking forward to it. I’m interested in the TRD Off Road w/MT. Toyota needs to speed up the production and have it available; it’s only a month away from 2024!
Excellent review! Time will tell on the turbo reliability and the hybrid motor, being that it is located between the engine and transmission. I have a deposit in for the TRD Off Road hybrid because I believe in Toyota engineering and will chance trading in my 2021 TRD Sport. The new gen is absolutely built with better features and driveability although all of that it is going to come at a higher cost.
Most turbochargers have a life of ~150k miles. I'd like to see an owner's manual to see what fluids need to be replaced at that time. I know that service for a Mini Cooper Turbo at 150k is expensive.
All gas vehicles in the US are as of several years required to be able to run on regular gas. Premium is just that premium and just a choice not a requirement.
@@marcanderson1073 I guess I'm asking what does the owners manual say about type of gas requirement with the tacoma with this engine. In general most manufactures say regular is fine, some say higher octane is required....like the Toyota 2.4 liter turbos in some applications. For instance my 2023 Harley OM say no less then 91 octane.
@garybaldwin1061 agreed, I would say the entry level horsepower most likely is fine with regular while the highest none hybrid may need higher octane. As far as the manuals statement maybe call a dealer for a definite answer.
@@visualdragon Thats good to hear. I only know 1 person who has the new 4th gen tacoma. I haven't a chance to ask him.For me requiring the 91 octane would suck. I know the 2024 Lexus NX with the same motor requires 91.
Nice to get a review on the new Taco aside from a couple points. My two friends, one with a 2015 4runner with KDSS and other with a 2019 4Runners both, comment how much better the ride is in my 17 Pro Tacoma with leaf springs versus their coils. And the friend without KDSS has Icon 2.5 shocks. Second, although I'd prefer rear discs, I'd love to see an actual comparison, with numbers, to see stopping force difference with discs vs rear drums before stating how much better the rear discs are. Most brake force comes from the front anyway. If the front discs are bigger than the 3rd gen Tacoma than claim that but i think the rear drum issue is more of a modern brake preference rather than real world difference.
David, Is there a reason Toyota doesn't put 48" between the wheel wells in the bed? My 2016 has plenty of room between the tire and wheel well, even under full articulation.
I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD Off-Road Premium with a few options, MSRP $45k. Just priced out the same for 2024 Tacoma and it came out to ~$55k. It does have more new features than mine but I am not sure it's worth a $10k jump especially when interest rates are so high and there's negligible diff in MPG!
David you have the best technical reviews ever. I live on Maui where there are more Tacomas than people. I drive a Mazda CX5 and waiting for the new 4Runner but now might buy a new Tacoma pre runner and sell it in a couple years while waiting for a 4Runner. I was hesitant about the turbo four but not now. With Toyota using that engine in lots of their vehicles Toyota had to get it right.
Thank you David! Just curious, when you measure the body panel gaps, is it fair to say that vehicles with tighter/consistent gaps are better for less movement over the lifetime of the vehicle? Or is it just an overall indicator of quality in manufacturing? Thanks for your passion for these vehicles. I can wait until you get the new GX. I would love to see an overtrail in Nori Green Pearl, but that would be too much to ask :)
It's more just an easy way to judge QC out of the factory. If they're paying attention to panel gaps then the rest is buttoned up enough to have the spare time to care about panel gaps is the logic.
@@VBmike2100 nobody measuring panel gaps is doing so to equate out fuel losses. It's just a "staring you in the face" way to get a quick gauge of how important quality is to the company.
Love the tech and features! The new turbo engines are very impressive! *HOWEVER,* having had experience with turbocharged engines before I know that the additional RPM’s, smaller engines pulling the same weight as a larger engine, so more stress, heat, and wear and tear. Sadly I have zero faith people will get say 200k-300k miles out of these engines. Note by the number of turbo six’s that have engine replacements by as little as 20k miles as my point. Granted, probably abused, but for me a Toyota is a long term car, and the smaller turbo charged engines make me nervous.
toyota has been making turbo and hybrid engines for decades. none of them have issues with reliability. this will be no different. this isnt a ford or chevy.
@@Erin-Thortuning had a lot to do with this as well, with the peak torque being significantly lower in the RPM band plus the 8AT depending on gear ratios these engines should be at a lower RPM for certain applications. I'll be interested to see how this pans out for towing tests in the real world. But in theory it should do better than the current gen and definitely do better than my poor 2nd gen for towing.
@@CF_Sapper - Lower RPM’s mean a bit less wear and tear, but as you’re still forcing more air and fuel in to get more power, that’s still more heat and stress. I get it, they might pull less RPM’s pulling a heavy trailer going up a hill, but the engine is still working hard as hell. Hot oil breaks down faster, heat affects engines, rubber seals, etc.
@@Erin-Thor Heat will only be an issue if the oil cooler and radiator is insufficient enough for the heat load. Toyota has been building turbo charged engines that last 200k miles or more for decades both diesel and gas. Now are they perfect? Absolutely not. The thing is though, if it's making a similar amount of "power" and it uses roughly the same amount of fuel it produces roughly the same amount of overall heat and with modern engines the energy loss to heat through their design and how they ignite the fuel and other things that there could be less overall heat. The flip side to that though, being less mass due to the smaller engine and potentially less oil which would speed up the break down of the oil, but with modern synthetics that is also mitigated. There's been a 4 banger for the Tacoma as long as it's been the Tacoma and its predecessor had one as well. This is already a proven engine as well. Time will tell in the real world but assuming they matched the cooling system appropriately to the work it's gonna be seeing it shouldn't be a downgrade in reliability. At most you might need to do an oil change more frequently. But if you're not changing your oil at the recommended frequency that's a user issue not a manufacturer one.
I've been working my way through my owner's manual and just read the section on towing. They state that it should be towed with all wheels off the ground. It can be towed with all wheels down in 2WD for a maximum of 50 miles (80 KM) with the speed kept below 18 MPH (30 KPH). For automatic transmission models, you can only do this going forwards.
Can an owner of a new 2024 Tacoma carry (8) sheets of 4'x8' plywood? In other words, does the new Tacoma have slots to run 2'x4's above the wheel wells to fit 4'x8' plywood?
Keep in mind that even if you have a perfect credit score you will be pay 7.75% APR. Add in the loss of range and other things, I'd sit this one out. Its nice but not worth 70k for a 4 banger hybrid. And Toyota demands and gets way over MSRP.
Great video with a ton of info. I have a question for you though. When you placed your deposit did they tell you they have the right to mark it up 5 or 6 grand when it comes in for “Market Adjustment”?
I am interested, how do you like your Tundra 10 speed automatic transmission? Any issues at slower speeds? How would you compare tundra 10 speed to Tacoma 8 speed?
So... Knowing what you know on how Toyota announces new vehicles when do you think will get info -confirmation, and maybe photos of the new 4runner design?
I have a Ranger 223FC Pontoon with 150HP Mercury and trailer. My brother in law thus far has helped in transporting when needed. However I am still looking at a truck myself. The boat/trailer I suppose would be 5K lbs and question whether this size vs full size would accomplish my hauling task. Would you be able to give me some advice on my main purpose? Thank you!
Liked video what about price? And how much will the turbo cost to replace at about 250k when it dies and how long will the engine last with the increased internal pressure it’s a safe bet it won’t last 525 thousand miles like a friends 22R engine that he drove to the junkyard cause the body rusted off the truck the engine wasn’t burning any oil so they pulled it and sold it
I need this to last me 200k miles without major issues. Is the 4cyl turbo more likely to do this than the 6cyl? I have my doubts. I hope I’m proven wrong.
Hundreds of videos all over of social media with people trying to convince that this truck is better than the previous generation , I don’t recall this kind of advertising with the previous generation, this means that Toyota is having hard time selling this trucks not just because the 4 cylinder engine, prices are way higher than the previous gen, I want to thank all the beta testers I’m looking forward to buy this truck on two or three years from now
I have a 2nd gen Taco Pre-Runner V6 with ~50k miles. Fantastic truck, easy maintenance, and absolutely functional for weekend warrior stuff. My only gripe is the 23mpg which is why we don't drive it much. The new engine makes tons of sense but I was hoping for a trim with noticeable better mpg.
I refuse to believe you're getting 23mpg on a 2nd gen V6. I'm getting a little over half that. Don't get me wrong I love my 2nd gen 160k km this year and very few/minor issues. Thats my biggest draw for this years truck is I get to double my fuel mileage 🤣
@@CF_Sapper The factory chrome rims were giving 21-22 mpg with all season tires. One of the rims started leaking air so I purchased OEM 3rd gen TRD rims with the Kevlar wrangler tires - 23 mpg. The TRD rims are so much lighter than the chrome rims and vastly improve ride quality. Is yours a 4 door? From the km reference, I'm guessing you're up North :).
@@CF_Sapper Ok, now it makes sense why your mileage is on the low end. That's a big truck and tough climate to boot. MPG might not ever be great but it will last a long time :) And maintenance is incredibly easy.
@@v4847 oh I love the damn thing, anything that has broken was either user error, warranty or a wear part, and nearly every time she just got an upgrade instead of a replacement.(well except the wiper motor transmission that went last month that just and the headlights I had to replace cause of a safety inspection for a move and I couldn't do LED at the time due to wait times involved) she has definitely given more then she had any right too still not entirely sure I'm going to trade her in if/when I updated got her with less than 10km of the Odometer don't seem right that someone else put her out to pasture when the time comes.
Toyota screwed the 6 cylinder by dropping the 4.0 to the 3.5. I still bought the 2016 and now the 2023 to be able to keep the 6. Toyota is wanting to price out their loyal customers by raising their prices above our heads. I’ll be waiting on the comment from some a hole saying get a better job. Let me precede that by saying f u. By the way i loved my 2016 enough to go ahead and get the 2023 well ahead of needing an upgrade. I’ll keep it until the wheels fall off.
I just leased a ‘24 SR-5 Tacoma 4dr 2Wdr. Great payment because of projected Resale value. Incentives were terrific. Love the truck, I traded in my ‘20 Taco. No complaints.
I did the same thing but traded in a '22 Tundra that I was leasing. Loving this new Tacoma, probably buy it when the lease is up.
320 lb ft of torque in this Tacoma. Same torque as the 4.7 V8 in my 4R at half the rpms. I’m buying the new Iforce Max, 465 lb ft at 1800rpms!! Great review, David.
I’m excited too. Pulling my ATV trailer is going to be a breeze. My 2022 Tacoma is a slug when anything is towed behind it.
I'll let you and others find the problems with the truck that generate recalls. I'm opting to buy a used 2023 and drive it for 2 to 3 years and then buy the new generation Tacoma after problem areas have been sorted out. Influencers praise the new Tacoma quite a bit, but I'd really like to hear from mechanics on this new truck after they've worked on them for a couple years. Moreover, the problem with hybrids is they're not suitable for DIY mechanics to perform basic maintenance. So, in addition to the out-the-door price paid for the truck, plan on paying much more in maintenance costs from Toyota service centers over the coming years. Total cost of ownership will be significantly higher. Influencers don't talk about this. Nevertheless, it's a nice truck.
New problems would be covered by warranty? No vehicle is perfect so warranty helps? I’m taking the leap but only because timing is right & really liking 6ft box with off-road package.
Thanks for the great review David, as usual your content is easy & enjoyable to watch.
As a mech E myself. I appreciate this so much! Thank uou.
Gotta remember that on order to keep a good relationship with manufacturers, reviewers can sometimes get... Excited.... About 'the new one'
Nice but I'll keep my 2021 for 5 more years and wait for toyota to work the bugs out.
It's a turbo tart. Can never beat a NA v6
Sounds like someone’s salty that the new one is just overall better, lol not to mention newer
Wow if it's going to take 5 years to work bugs out out there must be a lot of issues. Sounds like it's just garbage
@@AntilleanConfederation0% interest when you pay cash
In the past, I changed my vehicles once every five years, but now, I keep them until the wheels fall off. If you take a good care of your Tacoma, it will outlast the 2024 one.
Thank you for the video! New Taco looks like a really nice truck however i think Toyota would have made a lot more sales in the states if they offered a V6 option. I'm sure die hard Toyota fans would have forked over extra $$$ to get a the 3.5 or 4.0 V6 proven reliability in a new Taco or LC despite those engines being old technology.
Keep in mind the US’s emission and mileage requirements. For manufacturers that is a goal, and smaller turbo engines and electric assist motors are ways to meet these requirements. Sadly, that will also equate to more RPM’s, heat, wear and tear,and a shorter engine life.
@@Erin-Thor Screw that BS
yes, agreed. The 4.0 V6 would be a nice option, my 2019 Tacoma 3.5 needed a cylinder head with 75,000 miles. $13,500 with tax at the dealer. KIA warranty looks good
@@B126USMC - That’s life, the environment is important… but I’m in agreement. 🤬 that 💩. LOL!
@@stevestemple7358 Ouch! Sorry to hear that cylinder head issue. The 4.0 thats in the 5th Gen 4 Runner and 2nd Gen Tacoma are also used in some Land Cruisers in the world market. I have a friend with a 2nd Gen Tacoma that is his work truck and has almost 400k miles on it. Its old and its beat up but it runs strong
Well done David, Love your insight 👏👏
The biggest disappointment is that the fuel tank shrank 3 gallons. MPG is not really better so Toyota is penalizing consumers by taking away about 60 miles of range. It's sad because their packaging seems very interesting.
I agree. Ridiculous how expensive this truck is, how high tech and futuristic it is, yet you are stuck with a tiny gas tank. Come on…
@@thirtyhitcheapzdude range already sucks towing. Now imagine when you’re stuck in boost towing. Won’t have 150 miles to a tank
@@YouYou-tg7qe what the heck are you towing where you’re getting horrible range with these things? I pulled an s-10 on a tow dolly behind my 2017 2.7L sr-5. I was getting 25mpg.
@@dannylafreniere566 Didn't know about these guys! I would have tried the 33-gal tank on my 2016 Taco. Thanks!
I feel like there will be aftermarket fuel tanks that can be added
David thank you for your expert evaluation.Any info on the Mini Land cruiser?
What is the gap between wheel wells in the bed?
Whats the payload with coil springs?
Whats the tow rating?
Fantastic video. I'm sold.
I forgot 1985 2.4 had a turbo so would love to hear from anyone who still has one
Hi David,
These are one of my favorite types of videos that you do when you go into your favorites about a particular vehicle… After watching this video, I will definitely consider test driving the new Tacoma… It looks beautiful from the inside all the way to the outside … I truly get an education every time I watch everyone of your videos I can’t thank you enough David🇯🇵❤️🤍🇨🇦
Gas MPG is disappointing. Just saw 19-23 mpg. Rather have my v6
Agreed .. my 2020 Silverado got that with a V8 lol.
Yeah...kinda "kills" this point about what the government wants & controls......Anytime you get more "government" rules, control, etc., it's more likely to benefit "who" ? Definitely Not the consumer.......We need Less government .
Thanks David.Great video again as I have come to expect from you. Have ordered my Limited in blue crushed metallic with the iforce max. Maybe for Christmas next year!!! Anyway looking forward to it. We always get everything a bit later than our American friends. This will be my last new vehicle so I do expect it to last me. Keep up the great informative videos David and Merry Christmas!!!
I just picked up my 2024 Tacoma Sport Plus and I must say I'm very impressed so far! Great video David!
Your going to get educated on turbo failure $$$ sell before 50k miles
Thats what extended warranty is for........@Michael-hj3jg
I hate to be so bold as to ask you what you paid. I'm looking at the same unit but I'm thinking I'm going with a manual transmission as an anti-theft device. I bought the first year of the 2nd gen in 2005 and it's still going strong. But it's time for a change. Has no technology. Any additional information you could provide would be appreciated.
Great comprehensive review. 24:19
Toyota seems to have made great improvements with Tacoma, assuming long-term reliability is bulletproof.
I'm more impressed with the new Tacoma than Tundra.
Excellent video, BTW.
I totally agree. I own an older Tundra now an absolutely love the truck but hate the new Tundra body style. I am looking closely at the Tacoma
Definitely digging the 2.4 Turbo, but I'm staying away from the hybrid system for now. I enjoy fixing my own cars and field servicing a hybrid system doesn't seem like it would be too much fun.
If Toyota's reputation coninues to hold true, it won't need much servicing. People are getting 300k miles on these hybrid drivetrains with only replacing the battery.
@@dannylafreniere566 no ty
@@kingxcammToyota’s reputation has been the opposite for the last 2+ years
The 2.4L turbo is very refined. I've driven a new RX350 for about 100 miles and was impressed with the powertrain. It will be the same, if not more low end torque for the Tacoma. I pre-ordered the TRD Sport Hybrid, looking forward to getting it sometime mid Summer 2024.
While it might have the same engine, it's gonna have completely different tuning and refinement compared to the Lexus variant.
This new Tacoma is garbage for the price. You should have ordered a beautiful, luxurious new GMC Canyon.
@@user-wm1xm5gm2k you lost me at GM LMAO gm is not reliable
@@user-wm1xm5gm2k😂😂😂 Are you jocking
That's a ton of power!
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Super thorough Review...GRACIAS from Mexico City 😃
As usual great video and review
David, thank you for the great review! I am almost sold on this truck.
David, excellent review on this Tacoma. Very much like all of the clearance around the tires in the wheel wells. Nice redesigned dash and interior.
I would love to see the payload stickers on on the door frame from different models
If the electronic steering fails, can you still control the vehicle? And if the electronic breaks fail, how will you break if the electronic motors fail?
I did some research on this - yes, you still have a mechanical connection to the wheels. For the breaks, I THINK they are still hydraulic brakes and the “electric” component is just the parking brake actuator on the rear discs.
Knowing all about the upcoming 2024 Tacoma I purposely just bought a 2023 Tacoma SR Access Cable 4x4 with the 4 cylinder. Love it! I admit the 2024 is better in some areas than the 2023, but the lack of rear doors on the 2024 is a deal breaker. Plus the $3500 - $4000 premium for the 2024 is not worth it IMO. And the proven Uber reliability of the 3rd gen and the 2.7 4 cylinder give great piece of mind.
Totally agree, though I opted for the V6. Needed the cargo capacity. The Access Cab is so unbelievably convenient. No way am I trading my ‘23 for a ‘24
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@@vcash1112 It's a Truck.......not a Sports car........
I found that the interior seemed cheap with a lot of low-end plastics. I agree the seats were much better than the last generation, both in position and comfort.
Two words Chevy Colorado ZR2.
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Nice review
Thank you David for this very nice review. I hear that the limited version in Canada will only be available as a Hybrid version. Do you have any information on this? Thanks, Andre.
I really like mine. Put 2k mi driving to work loaded with tools in the bed. But i came across a video, broke front strut mount after bottoming on pothole. Said there's no bump stop and upper strut mount looks to be cast aluminum that broke.
The Internet is flooded with stories of people who took it off road and we’re driving it pretty conservatively and broke the shock mounts. Because of the lack of the bump stop. The bump stop is a fundamental component that was in every previous version of the Tacoma. Why would they remove it? How stupid.
Nice review! I enjoyed the Frontier vs 2023 Tacoma, I couldn't wait for your take on the 2024.
Are any of the new 4 cylinder turbo motors premium fuel only?
How is rear seat space in the 2024 compared to the previous gen?
I have a ‘21 Tacoma. I was hoping the next gen would have added a couple of inches of leg room for the rear passengers.
That's Tacoma's achilles heel.....& that sucks
This is a big city truck. It's very nice, refined etc. The town I live in has a 25 MPH limit. Don't care about the modern engine. Keeping my "old" 22 until it dies assuming I live longer than it does.
All 20 things you liked made so much sense. The problem is what colour should I get. Hard choice
My biggest issue with the tacoma is mileage and fuel capacity, I have a f150 4x4 with 2.7 and can average 20 mpg with a camper top, I have the extended range fuel tanks so can go 600 miles on a tank or 400 towing. I also have a 2022 tacoma 4x4 v6 ,I average about 17.5 all stock , when I fill up I can go about 300 miles is all ,and towing I have to pull in every 200 miles, so a bigger fuel tank would be nice for off roading towing ect. Another 10 gallons of fuel capacity would make the range a toyota can travel a lot nicer
I run the 2.7L Tacoma and usually get 22mpg when I drive. 19 when the lady drives it. I’ve towed an s-10 with it and got 25mpg. Try driving slower/more consistent. It’s hard to get a bigger fuel tank when you ain’t got room and cuts into weight capacity.
@scrapmanindustries how do you get 22mpg when you drive and 25 mpg towing a S10 that's impossible . My tacoma and i have had 3 of them have all had the V6 3 litter motors and they have never done great when It comes to mileage but what's a insult is when my full size F150 with a camper top and v6 gets better mileage and has more drag and weight , You can buy a extended range tank for a tacoma thru the aftermarket and it fits where the stock tank goes ,but there is no reason the factory can add 10 more gallons capacity if the aftermarket has it and it's a bolt in where the original tank goes, Toyota can do much better .
@@donm3844 I got better mileage towing the s-10 because it was way over my tow ratings and I was driving 50-55mph instead of 60-90 like I normally do.
@@donm3844 usually if I’m towing normal trailers at normal speeds it doesn’t affect mileage any. But then again my usual trailers with this thing are under 3k lbs.
@scrapmanindustries I live in hilly country. So for me normal mileage is about 1-2 mpg less then if I am driving on flat ground like across Illinois or Iowa ,so when I tow my 12 foot trailer it usually knocks off 5-6 mpg in this hill country, Like I said the extended range tank for v6 owners would be wonderful, many of the guys I know that have a tacoma complain about the mileage at least in this area and would prefer a little extra range . I have a friend who had a bigger tank put in place of the stock tank that is a bolt in item, His tacoma can go around 540 miles on a tank and I am considering just getting one myself , I know if it was a option like ford and others have , I would definately spend the extra dollars for it .
The problem with the Toyota tacoma' s they are falling into the same trap all auto makers are making ,they are overpriced and too many gimmicks, and putting a 4 cylinder engine in it ,
David, was there anything you didn’t like? I can’t imagine it’s perfect. Thank you
David has owned so many vehicles , I don’t think he should be allowed to call any vehicle his favorite 😂. He loves them all, no such thing as having a favorite.
This one and the Land Cruiser would be a hit
I saw a price list of the different trim levels. I'm wondering why the SR5 trim doesn't get a 6MT and the SR and TRDs get it. Also since they are offering the 6MT in this, I'm hopeful the next 4Runner will be get manuals🤞🏼
The old SR was around 31k the new one with a standard transmission is around $40k. Not good at all.
awesome video
Looks really nice!
Why doesn't Toyota make 4x4 trucks with a transfer case that also have a differential (either open or limited-slip one)? It would allow driving in 4L and 4H modes on non-slippery surfaces, not only on mud and ice. What are other reasons in addition to cost saving?
The problem for Toyota / Lexus is that their 4-cylinder engines have a coarseness to them and a sound that isn't pleasant.
@AutomotivePress: Can you explain how the Limited trim gets full time AWD and how it functions?
Thanks David
You should have reviewed the rear seats. How tight the older model was.
Same tightness on the 2024.....although they have a little more headroom. Never understood why Toyota couldn't build a Taco almost the same as a 4runner? Much more comfortable, plenty of room in rear seat area for both head & leg room, much more comfortable, smooth transmission.....disc brakes on all 4 wheels......and I think the frame & springs are better. They could have saved themselves manufacturing & parts money, & passed this on to the loyal devoted Toyota lovers.....
I’m looking forward to it. I’m interested in the TRD Off Road w/MT. Toyota needs to speed up the production and have it available; it’s only a month away from 2024!
Great Styling..... No Bueno Drivetrain for Towing . Expect a BIG increase in Servicing Turbos
It's crazy that these mid size trucks are almost the same size as my old F150.
My ‘23 is every bit as long as my ‘67 F100, and only slightly narrower. It can’t haul nearly as much, though.
Excellent review! Time will tell on the turbo reliability and the hybrid motor, being that it is located between the engine and transmission. I have a deposit in for the TRD Off Road hybrid because I believe in Toyota engineering and will chance trading in my 2021 TRD Sport. The new gen is absolutely built with better features and driveability although all of that it is going to come at a higher cost.
We won't know until a decade from now when it comes to reliability.
Most turbochargers have a life of ~150k miles. I'd like to see an owner's manual to see what fluids need to be replaced at that time. I know that service for a Mini Cooper Turbo at 150k is expensive.
I cant find any info on type of gas. will the turbo require premium vrs regular?
All gas vehicles in the US are as of several years required to be able to run on regular gas. Premium is just that premium and just a choice not a requirement.
@@marcanderson1073 I guess I'm asking what does the owners manual say about type of gas requirement with the tacoma with this engine. In general most manufactures say regular is fine, some say higher octane is required....like the Toyota 2.4 liter turbos in some applications. For instance my 2023 Harley OM say no less then 91 octane.
@garybaldwin1061 agreed, I would say the entry level horsepower most likely is fine with regular while the highest none hybrid may need higher octane. As far as the manuals statement maybe call a dealer for a definite answer.
Page 615 in my owner's manual: " Octane Rating: 87 (Research Octane Number 91) or higher." Eighty-seven at the pump is what you want.
@@visualdragon Thats good to hear. I only know 1 person who has the new 4th gen tacoma. I haven't a chance to ask him.For me requiring the 91 octane would suck. I know the 2024 Lexus NX with the same motor requires 91.
Is the base crew cab TRD off-road with auto transmission available with a 5 ft bed?
Smaller turbo engines, built in Mexico, Tundra issues...frankly, Toyota has us worried.
I love everything except the blue accent trim. Great design and proportions and i love the 6MT ❤🔥
Hey since this is built on the Tnga-f - is this thing gonna drive like a new landcruiser?? Also how is the ride compared to the current 4Runner?
David, The Tacoma is brand new and the Tundra is only 2 years old, when is the next T100 due? 🤔
Will the TRD off road come with a imax hybrid like the pro if you wanted it?
Informative.
Nice to get a review on the new Taco aside from a couple points. My two friends, one with a 2015 4runner with KDSS and other with a 2019 4Runners both, comment how much better the ride is in my 17 Pro Tacoma with leaf springs versus their coils. And the friend without KDSS has Icon 2.5 shocks.
Second, although I'd prefer rear discs, I'd love to see an actual comparison, with numbers, to see stopping force difference with discs vs rear drums before stating how much better the rear discs are. Most brake force comes from the front anyway. If the front discs are bigger than the 3rd gen Tacoma than claim that but i think the rear drum issue is more of a modern brake preference rather than real world difference.
So it’s the same engine the Camry has but adding the turbo ? Same 8 automatic transmission?
David, Is there a reason Toyota doesn't put 48" between the wheel wells in the bed? My 2016 has plenty of room between the tire and wheel well, even under full articulation.
Wonder how the electric power steering will do with 35 inch tires?
Does anyone know when the new Tacoma configurator will go live on the Toyota website?
I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD Off-Road Premium with a few options, MSRP $45k. Just priced out the same for 2024 Tacoma and it came out to ~$55k. It does have more new features than mine but I am not sure it's worth a $10k jump especially when interest rates are so high and there's negligible diff in MPG!
David you have the best technical reviews ever. I live on Maui where there are more Tacomas than people. I drive a Mazda CX5 and waiting for the new 4Runner but now might buy a new Tacoma pre runner and sell it in a couple years while waiting for a 4Runner. I was hesitant about the turbo four but not now. With Toyota using that engine in lots of their vehicles Toyota had to get it right.
I have visited the Hawaii Islands a half dozen times and always noticed the popularity of the Tacoma. Why the fascination?
Thank you David! Just curious, when you measure the body panel gaps, is it fair to say that vehicles with tighter/consistent gaps are better for less movement over the lifetime of the vehicle? Or is it just an overall indicator of quality in manufacturing? Thanks for your passion for these vehicles. I can wait until you get the new GX. I would love to see an overtrail in Nori Green Pearl, but that would be too much to ask :)
Who cares about gaps? I never noticed gaps until he started measuring them. I just want a functional vehicle that won't be breaking down all the time😢
It's more just an easy way to judge QC out of the factory. If they're paying attention to panel gaps then the rest is buttoned up enough to have the spare time to care about panel gaps is the logic.
Reduced gaps can improve mpg
@@VBmike2100 nobody measuring panel gaps is doing so to equate out fuel losses. It's just a "staring you in the face" way to get a quick gauge of how important quality is to the company.
I have the 2.4L turbo in my 2023 Highlander and have been very happy with it. I do miss the V6 but it wasn't even an option, however, I trust Toyota.
Famous last words
Can’t wait to get the I-Force Max next Spring/Summer.
Love the tech and features! The new turbo engines are very impressive! *HOWEVER,* having had experience with turbocharged engines before I know that the additional RPM’s, smaller engines pulling the same weight as a larger engine, so more stress, heat, and wear and tear. Sadly I have zero faith people will get say 200k-300k miles out of these engines. Note by the number of turbo six’s that have engine replacements by as little as 20k miles as my point. Granted, probably abused, but for me a Toyota is a long term car, and the smaller turbo charged engines make me nervous.
toyota has been making turbo and hybrid engines for decades. none of them have issues with reliability. this will be no different. this isnt a ford or chevy.
@@adrianc6534 - Physics can’t change.
@@Erin-Thortuning had a lot to do with this as well, with the peak torque being significantly lower in the RPM band plus the 8AT depending on gear ratios these engines should be at a lower RPM for certain applications. I'll be interested to see how this pans out for towing tests in the real world. But in theory it should do better than the current gen and definitely do better than my poor 2nd gen for towing.
@@CF_Sapper - Lower RPM’s mean a bit less wear and tear, but as you’re still forcing more air and fuel in to get more power, that’s still more heat and stress. I get it, they might pull less RPM’s pulling a heavy trailer going up a hill, but the engine is still working hard as hell. Hot oil breaks down faster, heat affects engines, rubber seals, etc.
@@Erin-Thor Heat will only be an issue if the oil cooler and radiator is insufficient enough for the heat load. Toyota has been building turbo charged engines that last 200k miles or more for decades both diesel and gas. Now are they perfect? Absolutely not. The thing is though, if it's making a similar amount of "power" and it uses roughly the same amount of fuel it produces roughly the same amount of overall heat and with modern engines the energy loss to heat through their design and how they ignite the fuel and other things that there could be less overall heat. The flip side to that though, being less mass due to the smaller engine and potentially less oil which would speed up the break down of the oil, but with modern synthetics that is also mitigated. There's been a 4 banger for the Tacoma as long as it's been the Tacoma and its predecessor had one as well. This is already a proven engine as well. Time will tell in the real world but assuming they matched the cooling system appropriately to the work it's gonna be seeing it shouldn't be a downgrade in reliability. At most you might need to do an oil change more frequently. But if you're not changing your oil at the recommended frequency that's a user issue not a manufacturer one.
Does it have More or less interior space and front leg room?
Will the transfer case allow for 4 wheel down towing behind an RV? Is there an internal oil pump that is driven by the transmission?
I've been working my way through my owner's manual and just read the section on towing. They state that it should be towed with all wheels off the ground. It can be towed with all wheels down in 2WD for a maximum of 50 miles (80 KM) with the speed kept below 18 MPH (30 KPH). For automatic transmission models, you can only do this going forwards.
when is it available to the public.?
DAVID, WHAT THE TORQUE ON TURBO 4 ENGINE?
Great review! I’ll keep my 2023 V6
Can an owner of a new 2024 Tacoma carry (8) sheets of 4'x8' plywood? In other words, does the new Tacoma have slots to run 2'x4's above the wheel wells to fit 4'x8' plywood?
I was hoping it would fit between but man that looks small
Keep in mind that even if you have a perfect credit score you will be pay 7.75% APR. Add in the loss of range and other things, I'd sit this one out. Its nice but not worth 70k for a 4 banger hybrid. And Toyota demands and gets way over MSRP.
I hope to get a 2024 Tacoma Trailhunter later this year
Great video with a ton of info. I have a question for you though. When you placed your deposit did they tell you they have the right to mark it up 5 or 6 grand when it comes in for “Market Adjustment”?
Our dealer in Olympia Washington doesnt do markups
He is in Canada. We have consumer protection laws that prevent dealers from making "Market Adjustments".
I am interested, how do you like your Tundra 10 speed automatic transmission? Any issues at slower speeds?
How would you compare tundra 10 speed to Tacoma 8 speed?
I only hear crickets .....
Hey guys Tacoma vs Cybertruck off road I would love to see that video
Is the trailhunter being built in Mexico also?
So... Knowing what you know on how Toyota announces new vehicles when do you think will get info -confirmation, and maybe photos of the new 4runner design?
I have a Ranger 223FC Pontoon with 150HP Mercury and trailer. My brother in law thus far has helped in transporting when needed. However I am still looking at a truck myself. The boat/trailer I suppose would be 5K lbs and question whether this size vs full size would accomplish my hauling task. Would you be able to give me some advice on my main purpose? Thank you!
Superduty
Liked video what about price? And how much will the turbo cost to replace at about 250k when it dies and how long will the engine last with the increased internal pressure it’s a safe bet it won’t last 525 thousand miles like a friends 22R engine that he drove to the junkyard cause the body rusted off the truck the engine wasn’t burning any oil so they pulled it and sold it
Can’t say I like that voodoo blue interior trim on the white truck.
I'm going to get it on a red solar octane truck. Wish they had red.
I need this to last me 200k miles without major issues. Is the 4cyl turbo more likely to do this than the 6cyl? I have my doubts. I hope I’m proven wrong.
Definitely not.
I don't have insider information, just the knowledge that any 4 cylinder turbo is going to be more highly stressed than a NA 6.
Hundreds of videos all over of social media with people trying to convince that this truck is better than the previous generation , I don’t recall this kind of advertising with the previous generation, this means that Toyota is having hard time selling this trucks not just because the 4 cylinder engine, prices are way higher than the previous gen, I want to thank all the beta testers I’m looking forward to buy this truck on two or three years from now
Great review. We all respect your opinions. Just get a Frontier 4x4. Thousands less with a V6 no fussy turbos
A roller down back window would be great.Hopefully Toyota listed to you
I have a 2nd gen Taco Pre-Runner V6 with ~50k miles. Fantastic truck, easy maintenance, and absolutely functional for weekend warrior stuff. My only gripe is the 23mpg which is why we don't drive it much. The new engine makes tons of sense but I was hoping for a trim with noticeable better mpg.
I refuse to believe you're getting 23mpg on a 2nd gen V6. I'm getting a little over half that. Don't get me wrong I love my 2nd gen 160k km this year and very few/minor issues. Thats my biggest draw for this years truck is I get to double my fuel mileage 🤣
@@CF_Sapper The factory chrome rims were giving 21-22 mpg with all season tires. One of the rims started leaking air so I purchased OEM 3rd gen TRD rims with the Kevlar wrangler tires - 23 mpg. The TRD rims are so much lighter than the chrome rims and vastly improve ride quality. Is yours a 4 door? From the km reference, I'm guessing you're up North :).
Yeah 4 door 6ft bed and yup Northern folk here lol, I don't think the thing ever got 23mpg and I bought it new 🤣 in 09
@@CF_Sapper Ok, now it makes sense why your mileage is on the low end. That's a big truck and tough climate to boot. MPG might not ever be great but it will last a long time :) And maintenance is incredibly easy.
@@v4847 oh I love the damn thing, anything that has broken was either user error, warranty or a wear part, and nearly every time she just got an upgrade instead of a replacement.(well except the wiper motor transmission that went last month that just and the headlights I had to replace cause of a safety inspection for a move and I couldn't do LED at the time due to wait times involved) she has definitely given more then she had any right too still not entirely sure I'm going to trade her in if/when I updated got her with less than 10km of the Odometer don't seem right that someone else put her out to pasture when the time comes.
No V6 👎
David, what you think about the short and long bed for the 2024 TRD Off-Road?
I think Toyota blew it by not offering an access cab configuration with 4 doors anymore… big mistake in my opinion..
Toyota screwed the 6 cylinder by dropping the 4.0 to the 3.5. I still bought the 2016 and now the 2023 to be able to keep the 6. Toyota is wanting to price out their loyal customers by raising their prices above our heads. I’ll be waiting on the comment from some a hole saying get a better job. Let me precede that by saying f u. By the way i loved my 2016 enough to go ahead and get the 2023 well ahead of needing an upgrade. I’ll keep it until the wheels fall off.
I will wait until rav 4 is paid off and then I will get one of these. It is my bucket list.