The S10 had a headphone jack, expandable storage, and was waterproof with an IP68 rating. It's battery was only 500 mAh smaller than the S23 with all those features.
right?!?! what nonsense is Mat going on about? Even the Samsung Xcover 6 Pro of today has an SD card, headphone jack, and even removable battery. Only thing it doesn't have is wireless charging.
What got me is he followed all that up with wired headphones cant have anc LOL like anc wasn't on headphones before we had wireless ones XD my first anc headphones were only wired and ate aaa's!
That’s because most people take their power for granted and don’t realize how you could fully utilize the device, so really they’re paying for much more than they need.
Not true about the headphone jack not being waterproof! I have had plenty of phones that were IP 89 rated with headphone jacks that I have brought swimming in the ocean several meters deep and they worked perfectly fine! That is not an excuse!
Yeah only the old style cheapo jacks had the hole in the bottom. Most jacks now are soild boxes and can easily be sealed for at least dropping a phone in a few feet of water. It's not like it is any less sealable than the power port lol.
Matt i respectfully disagree on the trade off of headphone jacks for bigger batteries. They can always make the phone a little thicker to accommodate a bigger batteryy. Might even get rid the camera bump in the process
These guys are proof that you can just ramble and rant and get subs and views on TH-cam. If the headphone jack was holding back waterproofing......I guess we should ask for the removal of the charge and data port too. You can always fit a bigger battery without removing ports and slots if you stop worrying about breaking thin phone records.
It gets to a point where majority of the good stuff have already been done to the phone. All they really need to do is upgrade the internals to perform better.
To perform better, Exactly how much power and performance do you people need to browse the internet and use apps.? Phones have been plenty powerful enough since 2018.
Really all they have left to do is make it cheaper and more efficient using less power to do the same things. Eventually doing that will lead to a new designs that can take advantage of those improvements (like rolling phones and clear phones)
It would also be nice to have modern smart phones in dumb phone shells from the past or Dumb phones that have modern guts to do basic tasks but have modern network access.
@@NotYours-bp5fx I believe only a small fraction actually utilize the full performance capabilities. Personally, I use my S24 Ultra akin to a computer, connecting it to monitors and keyboards. However, it's likely that the majority would be content with a mid-range or budget smartphone.
The SD card do not take up any extra space look at the s20 series, where the SD card is on the opposite side of the sim, so that remove SD card for space is bullshit.
There’s also the internal reader for the SD that takes space But personally I think the real reason is cameras no send through so much data a microsd can’t keep up
@@Cluelessracing it has a reader inside. The reader takes space. It may not be much space, maybe just a few pins on the board, but in a phone every mm counts
@@himynameisryan Modern micro sd cards can record 4k60 footage no problem, I dont think phone cameras are going to really be a problem for them as long as you are not buying the cheapest card you can get. Its all about reading the specs.
Honestly I don't mind the missing headphone jack. Most phones have crappy build in DAC/AMP that is too weak to drive high end headphones anyways. If I wan't audio quality I would get an external USB-C DAC dongle or DAC/AMP with its own power source instead
@@kingzach74 Yeah. But 95% of other Android phones, including Xperia have crappy built in DAC/AMP. I am using an Xperia 1 IV now which is probably the very few mainstream modern smartphone with a headphone jack but I never directly plugged in my headphone into it. I almost always use a fiio BTR5 via USB-C or sometimes Bluetooth to drive my HD600
Galaxy S7 until GS10 had headphone jacks and were also waterproofed. Apple removed the headphone jack to create a problem and sell you the solution. Actually everything that has been removed is because of this. You can tell this is the case because they removed it from things like the tablets which wouldn't have these supposed limitations.
@@juliawolf156 Wait, until' you don't have cellular data/internet connection. Cloud Storage is enitrely useless if you don't have the afformention to be able to use it.
My problem with not having SD cards comes from having a ton of things on mine. I don't just have tons of videos and photos, ive got ROMs i use for mainly GBA or PSP emulation while I'm on the go. And that quickly adds up too if you also download disney+ movies for offline viewing. From a 512gb micro SD, I've got about 320gb left. Not just that, transferring from one phone to another, its very nice being able to just put my SD card into my new phone and having everything quickly accessible.
@@mromutt I mean the way it’s handled iPhone to iPhone is that when you’re switching phones Apple temporarily gives you extra iCloud storage so you don’t have to pay You backup your phone the night before(assuming you don’t have an iCloud backup or a backup using your computer already) Then everything downloads in the background once you setup your new phone Then going Samsung to Samsung it’s much the same except you have to pay for OneDrive storage, they don’t temporarily give you free extra storage For example my personal phones each have around 720gb of photos and videos of my dogs and whether I’m upgrading my iPhone or my Samsung it all happens automatically. No need to switch an sd card over, the things just appear where they were on the old phone from a cloud backup no problem. The initial download of transferring settings and Home Screen can take about 30 minutes but that’s all the waiting there is So arguably the convenience of just tapping the old iPhone to the new iPhone is even greater than that of an sd card
I really hate how if I want to have good camera quality, I have to go with a flagship phone that doesn't have an SD card slot to store all my higher quality (and therefore higher storage requirement) photos and videos.
@@banishedepsilon1802 Im sure apple will eventually have a proprietary magsafe pad with a microsd in it and charge 100$ per pack. *8k Pro Res Video available now. Only with 100$ magsafe microsd pad + 100$ 200gb apple branded micro sd card. That will be 200$ for 8k please.
In modern phones the cameras record so much data that microSD’s are too slow for modern cameras Even in actual cameras, regular SD cards were phased out for UHSII and then now CF express are becoming more common That’s why on pro iPhones from the 15 and up, some SSD’s allow you to record in the highest quality and some don’t
@himynameisryan or perhaps you can copy them to the SD card? Or maybe the phone can do it automatically after saving a video/photo? They just don't want to do it
You don't though, aside from them not having sd card support there are plenty of 500 dollar phones that have good cameras, and if not the flagship chip from this year, it's at least a year old. Sure, you have to pay full price for them and can't get them through a carrier, but the newest xiaomi and vivo mid rangers work no problem and have good cameras.
I had an HTC One in 2013. I dropped it down a drainage grate. Several months later campus security got in touch to give me my phone back. It had some minor water damage, but it ended up working for another year after I got it back lol. I miss that phone all the time, the people in it more.
It’s a shame that small phones are dying. I am from India and I couldn’t find Asus Zenfone 10 here so I got one called from the US. Gotta say it’s a fine device that fits way more than it should be able to, with all the features you’d expect from a flagship. I hope companies realise the growing niche of compact smartphone users and start making flagship level phones in this segment. (I know the sales numbers didn’t show it but I believe that’s changing since every phone is a big phone now and compact choices are slim)
What nonsense is Mat going on about? Even the Samsung Xcover 6 Pro of today has an SD card, headphone jack, and even removable battery. Only thing it doesn't have is wireless charging.
I had a Samsung galaxy an active 5. It was amazing and had a headphone jack while being 100% waterproof. You could also charge it underwater as long as you plugged it in above the water. There will never be another phone like it.
Tbh I would like to see the life cycle of smartphones slow down: new phone every 3-4 years instead of every single year. Other tech sectors like dedicated cameras, videogame consoles, tablets, laptops etc. seem to survive perfectly fine without a major update every single year. I would much prefer that tech companies were more honest about the fact that these updates are incremental. If companies need to refresh their lineup, maybe release new colour waves once a year?
Moto's still have huge batteries and headphone jacks. It can still be practical. I use my headphone jack in the car for the aux input on my radio. At home I do use buds.
headphone jack for the car is pointless because you can just use android auto/carplay and get the same thing but a lot better. and yes you can do this even in older cars, I installed a carplay stereo into my 2011 and now it''s basically the same as any 2020 car
I wish there is a mainstream phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard. When blackberry went under everyone just thought that no one in the world wanted phones with physical keyboards anymore. I think that is just not the case though
@@cbm_doomworld Had a quick look, need to check it out further. Looks good at first sight. Absolutely hate on-screen keyboards, even more on my Note 10 with rounded edges, so many errors on the keys at the edges. Not even talking about the crappy autocorrect that is overzealous or a complete idiot. Not sure if it's my memory getting old, or if the autocorrect in the past wasn't better
@@cbm_doomworld Sadly unihertz is not a mainstream brand. Non mainstream phones come with its own set of challenges mainly in terms of longevity. Software updates definitely not even comparable to the likes of Samsung and availability of spare parts like battery after 2-3 years after the phone release is questionable
I guess I am not "most people"... I still put my music on my phone. I got 60GB per month of data, I don't care. I don't want to listen to ads while listening to my music in the car and I ain't paying to get rid of them. Plus, I also put pictures and what not straight on the sdcard. Why ? Because I can experiment, mess up, format the phone and be back in business without needing to transfer all my data first.
The sim is terrible when it comes to traveling as some countries (if you have a line there) you can’t get an eSIM and that just prevents you from using that phone abroad.
Matt going off saying nonsense yet again. The LG V60, which is still my daily driver and the phone I will keep the longest for unless it breaks, has a headphone jack (with excellent sound quality), supports expandable storage up to 1TB via microSD card, has a 5000mAh battery, wireless charging, and IP68 water resistance. It's gotten splashed with water and rained on multiple times and it still functions the same as the day I bought it.
I have several $9 dongle dacs that I keep with my various wired headphones. Plus, you can get a dongle dac WITH an amp and drive a big headphone. So we have better audio now than with the straight ultra-cheap headphone jack.
So there has been some phones with a headphone jack and ip68. It costs like 1 dollar for apple to upgrade the storage from 128 to 256 but they charge 100 for it. Higher storage should be standard. Personally I cant use a phone like an actual pc at all so it will remain just a phone for now. A 400 dollar device will do anything i need a phone to do.
I don't understand why phone manufacturers needed to release a new model yearly. and most chineses manufacturers even release in 3 or 6 months . a very wasteful in materials, resources and the reason why everything keeps getting more expensive. In this year almost everyone already have a smartphone. and most of them is reliable for years to come now. what if there's a global law they just release a model in 3 or even after 4 years. so in that case in 3 yrs they can make more significant upgrade to the new model, lesser carbon footprint. and in that 3 or 4 yrs of selling the same model maybe they can drop the price in 2 yrs and so forth too? EU make this a global law.. please. and include graphic cards and cpu manufacturers too.
OMG, the takes aren't just bad, they are flat out wrong. Phones like the Nokia XR20 and Samsung Galaxy A55 5G both feature the same water resistance than the iPhone while having a headphone jack and removable storage. I don't mind an e-sim, but yeah, the headphone jack would be a sweet return, since I either use dongles or spend extras on lightning wiered headphones. Airpods just never got acceptable microphones. I's love removable storage, you can put it in the 2nd sim tray, where other markets put the 2nd. sim card. The latest iPhones do 4k 120 fps, people use more storage than ever before. Yeah, I keep buying iPhone, but it's about the cameras and software. If I was more trusting of google, I might be open to switching.
Sorry but you're not going to sell me on the expandable storage bit. I just watched @Jerryrigeverything tear down the iPhone 16 pro and there is an empty black box where the SIM tray would be. They have plenty of space for expandable memory.
Comparing removable batteries and charging ports of yester year is a wild take. It’s not like it is impossible to develop a waterproof usb c complaint with removable phone. We are not in 2000s anymore.
I still use my iPod classic 160 GB to listen to music and still able to buy music and sync it with new purchase music and music videos. Over 9000 songs and over 20 years of music history. From borrowing CD's from friends and libraries to rip/burn it to my account.
iPhone is just too expensive. In Canada, most older Android devices can be had at Carriers for massive discounts, some as low as $0, which includes last year's flagships. Something like an iPhone 13, still available at some carriers, cost around $500 over a 2-year contract. When my friend bought iPhone 8's for him and his wife, over 2 years he paid $3000 more than me and my wife, because of original cost and monthly iphone specific plans. He recently purchased two iPhone 15s and they will pay $1200 more than me over 2 years, which is a little better. Also in that time, my friend purchased over $10,000 in Apple laptops and tablets and then there was the repair costs for iPhone and laptops. iPhone and the Apple echosystem is just too expensive.
I have a pair of wired shure in ear monitors and they can provide up to 37 decibels of isolation. Not all usb c devices accept audiotechnica from the usb c port. Usb c is fragmented when it comes to features and functionality and it even applies to audio as well. With the headphone jack, it literally just works because it's just plug and play and there is no fragmentation being involved. For example, there are certain usb c devices that charge only and transfer data only and does not support any form of audio even though usb c supports audio. When it comes to usb c, the features and functionality have to be within specs in terms of what they can do and what they can't do. With audio, there will always be analog being involved. For instance, you need to convert the digital 1s and 0s to an analog signal to be played back on speakers and headphones. Every phone, laptop, tablet etc. has a dac but needs to be converted to from digital to analog. Unfortunately, the built in dacs are mediocre. With bluetooth audio, you always have to rely on using non user replaceable batteries. I have some harman kardon bluetooth speakers and the battery has already degraded and they barely last that long and the battery is non user replaceable. With wired headphones and earbuds, there are user replaceable cables with balanced and unbalanced connectors and have the option use the built in microphones with the cables.
Like honestly I’m not spending $1200 for a phone every year anymore I feel like as I’m growing older 23 priorities man the 14promax is an absolutely good phone I just have to get the battery replaced and this thing will be set for another 4years tbh before I was upgrading phones from the 4s to 17plus before I realized I’m paying for almost the same phone I’d be happy with an IPod classic and a standalone phone tbh if only they brought back the original Motorola razr with 5g I’d be using that tbh and no not the new one the old one with actual tactile buttons no touch screen
I have a iPhone 12 Pro and don’t find any reason to upgrade. Maybe playing aaa games but there isn’t many games and the price is not fair. You can get same games very cheap physical or maybe steam.
I had a iPhone back in the day but hated it. Been a Samsung user for many years but can't seem to get into the flip. All I see is the crease on the screen all the time. Have a S24 Ultra at minute and love it.
Regarding removing features, I'm OK with it but the issue is that those changes are made before the market is ready for them. When removable batteries started, the new one didn't last most of the day, portable batteries were expensive and charging was slow so finding somewhere to charge was complicated because you needed more time. Now charging is faster, batteries are bigger and external batteries are cheap. When the headphone jack was removed, bt headsets were not good and the good ones were really expensive, the usb c adapters were also not that great and lose quality of the audio. Now bt headsets are better and cheaper, adapters work well too. I'm still mad about the micro ad cards because there are no improvements since it was removed besides cloud. Phones still come with small storage , apps, files and videos are heavier everyday. The only solution is cloud storage or like 100 extra just for a 256 or 512 version.
BT headphones means more batteries, which wear out, and are also non removable ... so more ewaste. I can still use my 25 year old Sony headphones with a plug ... only thing I need to change on those is a new soft cushion every 10 years. And they sound great
Well… now we have batteries lasting us all day. Too bad that this will only hold true for slightly more than 2 years and i as a user cannot easily swap a battery in anymore should the day come.
Honestly, if android phone manufacturers didn’t slack off when it comes to their budget “alternatives”, they could get a huge chunk of the market that doesn’t have a flagship phone, but no, gotta make the experience and performance as inconvenient and unreliable as possible cause “it’s the budget phone”
I would buy a new version of that HTC in a heartbeat. Curved back, all aluminum, removable battery, expandable storage, headphone jack, forward facing speakers, and symmetrical design all add up to a great phone. I wouldn't miss water resistance nor wireless charging.
And if they could please not have any notches or islands or pinholes or teardrops or cutouts, or any warts on the screen whatsoever, that would be fantastic, imo.
On batteries I am not following what you are saying. We shouldn't have removable batteries because charging is faster, and you act like they are mutually exclusive. We could have USBC fast charging and/or wireless charging and still be able to replace a battery when it goes bad without having to go to a repair center or (as the phone companies hope) just buy a new phone. My biggest issue with phones nowadays is how they do everything they can to prevent users from fixing them when a battery goes out or such.
if you can sell the same thing (or even less) for even more profit each year, and mark it as being improved, why wouldn't you? People are buying it. There's this sense of always being current or having the latest gadgets. It's just a cruddy thing to do. But that's not going to stop Apple.
I miss the old LG back buttons. I want my headphone jack back, removing it didn't give more battery space, samsung had it on waterproof phones, and it's not like you can't use Wireless earbuds. Wireless earbuds littering the trash with tons of lipos isn't a good thing. The USB-C adapters are dogshit. I buy any DAC especially apple ones and they work good for a few weeks maybe months, then break. I'm not making crazy bends, crimping it or anything, I'm being as gentle as possible and it still breaks. All other brands seem to last a couple days. And I still can't find a way to use wired headphones and charge at the same time. Every adapter I've bought for it either has two issues, can't actually use while charging, or there's background noise while using it. Also wireless headphones all suck balls and voice calls. Whenever I call someone on my phone with wired earbuds vs wireless, it's like the difference between a tin can and a professional studio.
Uh, Matt's take on the battery/headphone jack is just plain stupid. The Sony Xperia 1 VI still has a headphone jack while the battery is 5000maH. Stop bootlicking the iPhone FFS.
I need multitasking on iPhone. As a gig worker sometimes I’m using 2-3 apps at a time. I actually just got a small tablet today to see if I can work with that. I would get a folding device but it’s hard to get myself to pay that much for a phone again. The cheap androids aren’t that bad for this though. I tried that first on a cheaper phone but there were a number of issues with glitches. Just need to find the right phone.
They talk about microsd cards that they take space in the phone, are slow, but yet the iphone put plastic piece instead of cellphone card in usa, you cant film to microsd, but apps and games can fit in that slower 20$ storage, saving space for more photos or videos, so what you cant film to it btw, you can put the videos to that storage after, take it out and put it on your pc. The batteries can be removable with the same size, they just dont want to make it easily accessible.
So how does the Xperia 1 VI have all these features (minus removable battery) and the same 5000 battery that other phones do? Excuses for lazy design and cost cutting
Here I am with a Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) edition, with a headphone jack . expandable storage. and battery will last almost 2 days if i only have it set to half brightness. Every cell i have ever owned has had the features i just said. I will never buy an Iphone, its just meh... most people who buy them are doing it just for status. If they made the OG style moto razer with 5G and a full keypad instead of that T9 crap. I dont think there are many people that would like my idea of a cell.. but who knows or would want to know.
Honestly can't say I care about the loss of the headphone jack. I hadn't used one for at least 2 years before they went away since I can't stand wires or being tethered to anything. Losing SD card slot expandability sucked though. Storage is cheap, but phone manufacturers pretend it's not, especially Apple.
Every headphone has a battery now which becomes a landfill in 3 years. Do we even realise how much discarded perfectly working headphones that is just because the battery died????? I have 20$ earphone (Creative ep 630) bought 15 years ago still working fine. I mean Apple removes charging brick in the name of environment and then destroys that same environment by removing the headphone jack... . And we are OK with it.
Yep. Airpods is probably the worst thing Apple did for environment lately. Also, wireless earbuds are a lot more expensive and a lot more bulky and heavy than wired ones - I used wired ones a week ago first time in years and gosh were they comfy..
I kinda stop caring about sdcards when usb-b flash drives become natively compatible with most phones and offer speeds comparable or faster than internal storage.
I wanted the mini iPhone but was going to wait for v2 or v3. I loved my LG phones for features but the screens I got from rma and new kept getting burn in with setting set to lower brightness.
Really if companies wait a year or a couple and then announce a new phone it would be better. Sending out a new phone every year with minimum updates is boring.
are we showing of the best phone ever... the HTC One M8. Not just good speakers but for the headphone jack it has an incredible DAC... before the V10 had one. ;)
The LG V60 had/has a very respectable Quad DAC(headphone jack), IP68 water resistance, an SD card slot, 5,000mAH battery and a Dual-Screen case. Your justification for losing the headphone jack is hogwash. Nobody bought them because LG didn't know how to market their phones at all. Nobody knew they existed. I showed my phone to multiple people and nobody had ever seen one or ever heard of it.
I'm getting my 5th Samsung phone that STILL has a headphone jack and still not looking for a IPhone. But I'm also not looking to get a Z Flip or Z Fold or a S Ultra either to expensive, not enough necessities, not enough solutions, not enough reason to get altogether. I'm not against the idea but if the newer phones cannot provide the same necessities that their old ones provided they're not worth it. It doesn't matter what new specs its got if it can't provide it can't for now. Wait for it to be better. This is the age of specs over classic hardware. The age of evolved phones that don't share the same necessities that they're intended for. The age of phones that were provided but aren't what was promised.
I really gotta know - are people really still that upset over the loss of the headphone jack and SD cards? It stung maybe a decade ago when it happened, but I personally don’t miss them at all now. Maybe I’m not as much of a sweaty tech nerd as I used to be 💀
phones used to have FLAT back. its been 20 years and they cannot remaster the camera to get back to basic. manufactures claims those cameras are sensitive buy why are they protruding if thats the case?
The S10 had a headphone jack, expandable storage, and was waterproof with an IP68 rating. It's battery was only 500 mAh smaller than the S23 with all those features.
right?!?! what nonsense is Mat going on about? Even the Samsung Xcover 6 Pro of today has an SD card, headphone jack, and even removable battery. Only thing it doesn't have is wireless charging.
This
and one of the slimmest phone ever
What got me is he followed all that up with wired headphones cant have anc LOL like anc wasn't on headphones before we had wireless ones XD my first anc headphones were only wired and ate aaa's!
@@mromutt Yeah, I had a pair of Sony cans with ANC that had a second cord for power. Matt talks out of his ass, like, a lot.
iPhones are getting hella boring ngl
just switched to s24 ultra, never going back lol
@@Azex824 it’s really good, I’m dailying my s24u atm since iOS 18 is a bad on battery and it’s overhyped imo
That’s because most people take their power for granted and don’t realize how you could fully utilize the device, so really they’re paying for much more than they need.
Exactly I still use a samsung galaxy note 10 plus aka the best samsung phone to exist
Thanks Internet Explorer !
Not true about the headphone jack not being waterproof! I have had plenty of phones that were IP 89 rated with headphone jacks that I have brought swimming in the ocean several meters deep and they worked perfectly fine! That is not an excuse!
Yeah only the old style cheapo jacks had the hole in the bottom. Most jacks now are soild boxes and can easily be sealed for at least dropping a phone in a few feet of water. It's not like it is any less sealable than the power port lol.
The Samsung s5 had an IP67 rating.
@@tamwilfred yeah can confirm my s5 had an o ring on the back cover for the battery and everything
IP89 doesn't exist.
Matt i respectfully disagree on the trade off of headphone jacks for bigger batteries. They can always make the phone a little thicker to accommodate a bigger batteryy. Might even get rid the camera bump in the process
These guys are proof that you can just ramble and rant and get subs and views on TH-cam. If the headphone jack was holding back waterproofing......I guess we should ask for the removal of the charge and data port too. You can always fit a bigger battery without removing ports and slots if you stop worrying about breaking thin phone records.
Ask and you will receive! Wait until the next iphone removes the changer port
The Samsung Xcover 7 shows that you can have a removable battery, a headphone jack and waterproofing in a brand new phone.
It gets to a point where majority of the good stuff have already been done to the phone. All they really need to do is upgrade the internals to perform better.
To perform better, Exactly how much power and performance do you people need to browse the internet and use apps.? Phones have been plenty powerful enough since 2018.
Really all they have left to do is make it cheaper and more efficient using less power to do the same things. Eventually doing that will lead to a new designs that can take advantage of those improvements (like rolling phones and clear phones)
It would also be nice to have modern smart phones in dumb phone shells from the past or Dumb phones that have modern guts to do basic tasks but have modern network access.
@@NotYours-bp5fx I believe only a small fraction actually utilize the full performance capabilities. Personally, I use my S24 Ultra akin to a computer, connecting it to monitors and keyboards. However, it's likely that the majority would be content with a mid-range or budget smartphone.
Upgrade the internals to perform better? What have we've used our phones differently compared to 10 years ago?
The SD card do not take up any extra space look at the s20 series, where the SD card is on the opposite side of the sim, so that remove SD card for space is bullshit.
There’s also the internal reader for the SD that takes space
But personally I think the real reason is cameras no send through so much data a microsd can’t keep up
@@himynameisryan from opening the s20 no it doesn't.
@@Cluelessracing it has a reader inside. The reader takes space. It may not be much space, maybe just a few pins on the board, but in a phone every mm counts
@@himynameisryan yes but not enough to warrant the removal of it.
@@himynameisryan Modern micro sd cards can record 4k60 footage no problem, I dont think phone cameras are going to really be a problem for them as long as you are not buying the cheapest card you can get. Its all about reading the specs.
Remove the headphone jack is the first step, remove the screen and that will give you extra room for even bigger battery!
Honestly I don't mind the missing headphone jack. Most phones have crappy build in DAC/AMP that is too weak to drive high end headphones anyways. If I wan't audio quality I would get an external USB-C DAC dongle or DAC/AMP with its own power source instead
@@yue5742 The LG V60 had/has a very respectable Quad DAC, IP68 water resistance, an SD card slot, and a Dual-Screen case.
@@kingzach74 Yeah. But 95% of other Android phones, including Xperia have crappy built in DAC/AMP. I am using an Xperia 1 IV now which is probably the very few mainstream modern smartphone with a headphone jack but I never directly plugged in my headphone into it. I almost always use a fiio BTR5 via USB-C or sometimes Bluetooth to drive my HD600
Galaxy S7 until GS10 had headphone jacks and were also waterproofed. Apple removed the headphone jack to create a problem and sell you the solution. Actually everything that has been removed is because of this. You can tell this is the case because they removed it from things like the tablets which wouldn't have these supposed limitations.
Exactly! Though it actually started with the Galaxy S5.
Oh no! The SD card slot is missing! But i need more space! Oh well, i need a subscription for cloud storage.
@@juliawolf156 Wait, until' you don't have cellular data/internet connection. Cloud Storage is enitrely useless if you don't have the afformention to be able to use it.
My problem with not having SD cards comes from having a ton of things on mine. I don't just have tons of videos and photos, ive got ROMs i use for mainly GBA or PSP emulation while I'm on the go. And that quickly adds up too if you also download disney+ movies for offline viewing. From a 512gb micro SD, I've got about 320gb left. Not just that, transferring from one phone to another, its very nice being able to just put my SD card into my new phone and having everything quickly accessible.
You could just buy a 1tb phone
Moving the sd over to a new phone is actually a huge one for me. My newest phone didnt have a slot and it was a pain in the ass for me.
@@mromutt when going iPhone to iPhone and Samsung to Samsung it moves everything for you and shouldn’t be an issue
@@himynameisryan not if you are moving a lot of stuff. I am not waiting for phone to phone transfer of 70gb of music XD
@@mromutt I mean the way it’s handled iPhone to iPhone is that when you’re switching phones Apple temporarily gives you extra iCloud storage so you don’t have to pay
You backup your phone the night before(assuming you don’t have an iCloud backup or a backup using your computer already)
Then everything downloads in the background once you setup your new phone
Then going Samsung to Samsung it’s much the same except you have to pay for OneDrive storage, they don’t temporarily give you free extra storage
For example my personal phones each have around 720gb of photos and videos of my dogs and whether I’m upgrading my iPhone or my Samsung it all happens automatically. No need to switch an sd card over, the things just appear where they were on the old phone from a cloud backup no problem. The initial download of transferring settings and Home Screen can take about 30 minutes but that’s all the waiting there is
So arguably the convenience of just tapping the old iPhone to the new iPhone is even greater than that of an sd card
I really hate how if I want to have good camera quality, I have to go with a flagship phone that doesn't have an SD card slot to store all my higher quality (and therefore higher storage requirement) photos and videos.
It's really backwards that Samsung budget and mid-ranger phones have SD card slots, but the more expensive flagships with good cameras don't.
@@banishedepsilon1802 Im sure apple will eventually have a proprietary magsafe pad with a microsd in it and charge 100$ per pack. *8k Pro Res Video available now. Only with 100$ magsafe microsd pad + 100$ 200gb apple branded micro sd card. That will be 200$ for 8k please.
In modern phones the cameras record so much data that microSD’s are too slow for modern cameras
Even in actual cameras, regular SD cards were phased out for UHSII and then now CF express are becoming more common
That’s why on pro iPhones from the 15 and up, some SSD’s allow you to record in the highest quality and some don’t
@himynameisryan or perhaps you can copy them to the SD card? Or maybe the phone can do it automatically after saving a video/photo? They just don't want to do it
You don't though, aside from them not having sd card support there are plenty of 500 dollar phones that have good cameras, and if not the flagship chip from this year, it's at least a year old.
Sure, you have to pay full price for them and can't get them through a carrier, but the newest xiaomi and vivo mid rangers work no problem and have good cameras.
I had an HTC One in 2013. I dropped it down a drainage grate. Several months later campus security got in touch to give me my phone back. It had some minor water damage, but it ended up working for another year after I got it back lol. I miss that phone all the time, the people in it more.
U know it’s bad when u can’t sit through review of the phone
It’s a shame that small phones are dying. I am from India and I couldn’t find Asus Zenfone 10 here so I got one called from the US. Gotta say it’s a fine device that fits way more than it should be able to, with all the features you’d expect from a flagship. I hope companies realise the growing niche of compact smartphone users and start making flagship level phones in this segment. (I know the sales numbers didn’t show it but I believe that’s changing since every phone is a big phone now and compact choices are slim)
I think your color E-Ink on the back idea is amazing.
What nonsense is Mat going on about? Even the Samsung Xcover 6 Pro of today has an SD card, headphone jack, and even removable battery. Only thing it doesn't have is wireless charging.
I loved the htc phones animated weather. It was by far one of my favorite phones ever.
Samsung had waterproof head phones with headphone jack. bullshit
S8
I had a Samsung galaxy an active 5. It was amazing and had a headphone jack while being 100% waterproof. You could also charge it underwater as long as you plugged it in above the water. There will never be another phone like it.
Samsung's X-Cover series shows that it's possible to have water resistance with a removable battery and a headphone jack.
Tbh I would like to see the life cycle of smartphones slow down: new phone every 3-4 years instead of every single year.
Other tech sectors like dedicated cameras, videogame consoles, tablets, laptops etc. seem to survive perfectly fine without a major update every single year. I would much prefer that tech companies were more honest about the fact that these updates are incremental.
If companies need to refresh their lineup, maybe release new colour waves once a year?
Moto's still have huge batteries and headphone jacks. It can still be practical. I use my headphone jack in the car for the aux input on my radio. At home I do use buds.
headphone jack for the car is pointless because you can just use android auto/carplay and get the same thing but a lot better. and yes you can do this even in older cars, I installed a carplay stereo into my 2011 and now it''s basically the same as any 2020 car
@@HearMeLearn i dont agree
@@WeatherMan2005 oh okay
@@HearMeLearn I don't have a smart head unit. Don't see the need for it.
I wish there is a mainstream phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard. When blackberry went under everyone just thought that no one in the world wanted phones with physical keyboards anymore. I think that is just not the case though
unihertz titan pocket
@@cbm_doomworld Had a quick look, need to check it out further. Looks good at first sight. Absolutely hate on-screen keyboards, even more on my Note 10 with rounded edges, so many errors on the keys at the edges. Not even talking about the crappy autocorrect that is overzealous or a complete idiot. Not sure if it's my memory getting old, or if the autocorrect in the past wasn't better
i have a feeling they wouldnt sell all too well but who knows
@@cbm_doomworld Sadly unihertz is not a mainstream brand. Non mainstream phones come with its own set of challenges mainly in terms of longevity. Software updates definitely not even comparable to the likes of Samsung and availability of spare parts like battery after 2-3 years after the phone release is questionable
I guess I am not "most people"... I still put my music on my phone. I got 60GB per month of data, I don't care. I don't want to listen to ads while listening to my music in the car and I ain't paying to get rid of them. Plus, I also put pictures and what not straight on the sdcard. Why ? Because I can experiment, mess up, format the phone and be back in business without needing to transfer all my data first.
well. there is another way to remove ads for free...
Shout to the Nothing Phone 2A Plus! No glass back in exchange for no wireless charging. I really enjoy the interface as well
The sim is terrible when it comes to traveling as some countries (if you have a line there) you can’t get an eSIM and that just prevents you from using that phone abroad.
Matt going off saying nonsense yet again. The LG V60, which is still my daily driver and the phone I will keep the longest for unless it breaks, has a headphone jack (with excellent sound quality), supports expandable storage up to 1TB via microSD card, has a 5000mAh battery, wireless charging, and IP68 water resistance. It's gotten splashed with water and rained on multiple times and it still functions the same as the day I bought it.
The Huawei Mate Xt trifold is a really good looking phone/Tablet. But is really expensive, and can only be imported from China.
I have several $9 dongle dacs that I keep with my various wired headphones. Plus, you can get a dongle dac WITH an amp and drive a big headphone. So we have better audio now than with the straight ultra-cheap headphone jack.
So there has been some phones with a headphone jack and ip68. It costs like 1 dollar for apple to upgrade the storage from 128 to 256 but they charge 100 for it. Higher storage should be standard. Personally I cant use a phone like an actual pc at all so it will remain just a phone for now. A 400 dollar device will do anything i need a phone to do.
I don't understand why phone manufacturers needed to release a new model yearly. and most chineses manufacturers even release in 3 or 6 months . a very wasteful in materials, resources and the reason why everything keeps getting more expensive. In this year almost everyone already have a smartphone. and most of them is reliable for years to come now. what if there's a global law they just release a model in 3 or even after 4 years. so in that case in 3 yrs they can make more significant upgrade to the new model, lesser carbon footprint. and in that 3 or 4 yrs of selling the same model maybe they can drop the price in 2 yrs and so forth too? EU make this a global law.. please. and include graphic cards and cpu manufacturers too.
I've had my current phone for going on 10 years. It's a moto g stylus 128 gb storage snapdragon processor. Non 5g is the only downside.
I've had my z fold for a week. Just cause of you and your flipping flip. I am enjoying it.
Let us know how long before that screen is toast on the folding line ;)
Im two minutes in and I feel like an iphone user is off screen with a "device" (not getting me google :P ) pointed at austin lol
OMG, the takes aren't just bad, they are flat out wrong. Phones like the Nokia XR20 and Samsung Galaxy A55 5G both feature the same water resistance than the iPhone while having a headphone jack and removable storage.
I don't mind an e-sim, but yeah, the headphone jack would be a sweet return, since I either use dongles or spend extras on lightning wiered headphones. Airpods just never got acceptable microphones. I's love removable storage, you can put it in the 2nd sim tray, where other markets put the 2nd. sim card. The latest iPhones do 4k 120 fps, people use more storage than ever before.
Yeah, I keep buying iPhone, but it's about the cameras and software. If I was more trusting of google, I might be open to switching.
I am tired of disposable tech. Wireless is landfill tech. Also if they remove sim cards can they replace it with removable storage?
Sorry but you're not going to sell me on the expandable storage bit. I just watched @Jerryrigeverything tear down the iPhone 16 pro and there is an empty black box where the SIM tray would be. They have plenty of space for expandable memory.
Non removable batteries creates e waste when all those phones end up in landfills
i want an updaed version of the xperia play, with an easy accesible sd card for hot swapping roms, but i maybe a niche market.
Comparing removable batteries and charging ports of yester year is a wild take. It’s not like it is impossible to develop a waterproof usb c complaint with removable phone. We are not in 2000s anymore.
The Sony experia z2 had a headphone jack and was water resistant and it had an open jack with out a cover like the z1.
I still use my iPod classic 160 GB to listen to music and still able to buy music and sync it with new purchase music and music videos. Over 9000 songs and over 20 years of music history. From borrowing CD's from friends and libraries to rip/burn it to my account.
Since I can't afford a new iPhone I can only speak with a budget Android phone in mind. Some of these phones (
iPhone is just too expensive. In Canada, most older Android devices can be had at Carriers for massive discounts, some as low as $0, which includes last year's flagships. Something like an iPhone 13, still available at some carriers, cost around $500 over a 2-year contract. When my friend bought iPhone 8's for him and his wife, over 2 years he paid $3000 more than me and my wife, because of original cost and monthly iphone specific plans. He recently purchased two iPhone 15s and they will pay $1200 more than me over 2 years, which is a little better. Also in that time, my friend purchased over $10,000 in Apple laptops and tablets and then there was the repair costs for iPhone and laptops. iPhone and the Apple echosystem is just too expensive.
indeed
I have a pair of wired shure in ear monitors and they can provide up to 37 decibels of isolation. Not all usb c devices accept audiotechnica from the usb c port. Usb c is fragmented when it comes to features and functionality and it even applies to audio as well. With the headphone jack, it literally just works because it's just plug and play and there is no fragmentation being involved. For example, there are certain usb c devices that charge only and transfer data only and does not support any form of audio even though usb c supports audio. When it comes to usb c, the features and functionality have to be within specs in terms of what they can do and what they can't do. With audio, there will always be analog being involved. For instance, you need to convert the digital 1s and 0s to an analog signal to be played back on speakers and headphones. Every phone, laptop, tablet etc. has a dac but needs to be converted to from digital to analog. Unfortunately, the built in dacs are mediocre. With bluetooth audio, you always have to rely on using non user replaceable batteries. I have some harman kardon bluetooth speakers and the battery has already degraded and they barely last that long and the battery is non user replaceable. With wired headphones and earbuds, there are user replaceable cables with balanced and unbalanced connectors and have the option use the built in microphones with the cables.
Having problem finding a nice affordable upgrade. Got samsung a52s 5g. I will miss 3.5 jack. How come phones are becoming thicker without it.
Like honestly I’m not spending $1200 for a phone every year anymore I feel like as I’m growing older 23 priorities man the 14promax is an absolutely good phone I just have to get the battery replaced and this thing will be set for another 4years tbh before I was upgrading phones from the 4s to 17plus before I realized I’m paying for almost the same phone I’d be happy with an IPod classic and a standalone phone tbh if only they brought back the original Motorola razr with 5g I’d be using that tbh and no not the new one the old one with actual tactile buttons no touch screen
I have a iPhone 12 Pro and don’t find any reason to upgrade. Maybe playing aaa games but there isn’t many games and the price is not fair. You can get same games very cheap physical or maybe steam.
Bring back the Dual-screen phone!!!!
I had a iPhone back in the day but hated it. Been a Samsung user for many years but can't seem to get into the flip. All I see is the crease on the screen all the time. Have a S24 Ultra at minute and love it.
Metal back>>glass
I don't want to use cases
i use a case with my plastic phone for whatever reason
The problem i had with htc m8 and m9 was that the batteries for some reason just went to crap within a year.
Regarding removing features, I'm OK with it but the issue is that those changes are made before the market is ready for them.
When removable batteries started, the new one didn't last most of the day, portable batteries were expensive and charging was slow so finding somewhere to charge was complicated because you needed more time. Now charging is faster, batteries are bigger and external batteries are cheap.
When the headphone jack was removed, bt headsets were not good and the good ones were really expensive, the usb c adapters were also not that great and lose quality of the audio. Now bt headsets are better and cheaper, adapters work well too.
I'm still mad about the micro ad cards because there are no improvements since it was removed besides cloud. Phones still come with small storage , apps, files and videos are heavier everyday. The only solution is cloud storage or like 100 extra just for a 256 or 512 version.
Only improvement I can see is faster internal storage, not necessarily more internal storage.
BT headphones means more batteries, which wear out, and are also non removable ... so more ewaste. I can still use my 25 year old Sony headphones with a plug ... only thing I need to change on those is a new soft cushion every 10 years. And they sound great
Well… now we have batteries lasting us all day. Too bad that this will only hold true for slightly more than 2 years and i as a user cannot easily swap a battery in anymore should the day come.
I feel like they need to stop releasing new phones every year
They have a new LCD tablet that is like e ink or a Gameboy closer to design. It's actually cool it's super readable on direct sunlight
Honestly, if android phone manufacturers didn’t slack off when it comes to their budget “alternatives”, they could get a huge chunk of the market that doesn’t have a flagship phone, but no, gotta make the experience and performance as inconvenient and unreliable as possible cause “it’s the budget phone”
Sony Xperia is one of my personal favorites
I would buy a new version of that HTC in a heartbeat. Curved back, all aluminum, removable battery, expandable storage, headphone jack, forward facing speakers, and symmetrical design all add up to a great phone. I wouldn't miss water resistance nor wireless charging.
And if they could please not have any notches or islands or pinholes or teardrops or cutouts, or any warts on the screen whatsoever, that would be fantastic, imo.
On batteries I am not following what you are saying. We shouldn't have removable batteries because charging is faster, and you act like they are mutually exclusive. We could have USBC fast charging and/or wireless charging and still be able to replace a battery when it goes bad without having to go to a repair center or (as the phone companies hope) just buy a new phone. My biggest issue with phones nowadays is how they do everything they can to prevent users from fixing them when a battery goes out or such.
if you can sell the same thing (or even less) for even more profit each year, and mark it as being improved, why wouldn't you? People are buying it. There's this sense of always being current or having the latest gadgets. It's just a cruddy thing to do. But that's not going to stop Apple.
I miss the old LG back buttons. I want my headphone jack back, removing it didn't give more battery space, samsung had it on waterproof phones, and it's not like you can't use Wireless earbuds. Wireless earbuds littering the trash with tons of lipos isn't a good thing. The USB-C adapters are dogshit. I buy any DAC especially apple ones and they work good for a few weeks maybe months, then break. I'm not making crazy bends, crimping it or anything, I'm being as gentle as possible and it still breaks. All other brands seem to last a couple days. And I still can't find a way to use wired headphones and charge at the same time. Every adapter I've bought for it either has two issues, can't actually use while charging, or there's background noise while using it. Also wireless headphones all suck balls and voice calls. Whenever I call someone on my phone with wired earbuds vs wireless, it's like the difference between a tin can and a professional studio.
The Huawei Mate 60 XT Tri-Fold Screen is an interesting concept. If Samsung made one at a decent price, I might switch from my iPhone.
It is definitely interesting, but it has part of the flexible screen constantly out so only time will tell regarding its durability.
@@devin2156 I have very little faith it would hold up overtime. You would absolutely have to baby it. A guy could dream though. lol.
I’m happy with my iPhone 13 Pro Max, my previous phone was the iPhone 6 pro max. So to me this was a HUGE upgrade.
Uh, Matt's take on the battery/headphone jack is just plain stupid. The Sony Xperia 1 VI still has a headphone jack while the battery is 5000maH. Stop bootlicking the iPhone FFS.
I need multitasking on iPhone. As a gig worker sometimes I’m using 2-3 apps at a time. I actually just got a small tablet today to see if I can work with that. I would get a folding device but it’s hard to get myself to pay that much for a phone again. The cheap androids aren’t that bad for this though. I tried that first on a cheaper phone but there were a number of issues with glitches. Just need to find the right phone.
They talk about microsd cards that they take space in the phone, are slow, but yet the iphone put plastic piece instead of cellphone card in usa, you cant film to microsd, but apps and games can fit in that slower 20$ storage, saving space for more photos or videos, so what you cant film to it btw, you can put the videos to that storage after, take it out and put it on your pc. The batteries can be removable with the same size, they just dont want to make it easily accessible.
So how does the Xperia 1 VI have all these features (minus removable battery) and the same 5000 battery that other phones do? Excuses for lazy design and cost cutting
Here I am with a Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) edition, with a headphone jack . expandable storage. and battery will last almost 2 days if i only have it set to half brightness. Every cell i have ever owned has had the features i just said. I will never buy an Iphone, its just meh... most people who buy them are doing it just for status. If they made the OG style moto razer with 5G and a full keypad instead of that T9 crap. I dont think there are many people that would like my idea of a cell.. but who knows or would want to know.
Honestly can't say I care about the loss of the headphone jack. I hadn't used one for at least 2 years before they went away since I can't stand wires or being tethered to anything. Losing SD card slot expandability sucked though. Storage is cheap, but phone manufacturers pretend it's not, especially Apple.
The original Moto G, Xperia M4 and Z5 had external storage, headphone jack and were completely waterproof 😅😅
Every headphone has a battery now which becomes a landfill in 3 years. Do we even realise how much discarded perfectly working headphones that is just because the battery died?????
I have 20$ earphone (Creative ep 630) bought 15 years ago still working fine.
I mean Apple removes charging brick in the name of environment and then destroys that same environment by removing the headphone jack...
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And we are OK with it.
Yep. Airpods is probably the worst thing Apple did for environment lately.
Also, wireless earbuds are a lot more expensive and a lot more bulky and heavy than wired ones - I used wired ones a week ago first time in years and gosh were they comfy..
Honestly though, BRING BACK V-10s!!
aren't replacable bateries requierd by law in the eu? so they cant really keep internal bateries.
I kinda stop caring about sdcards when usb-b flash drives become natively compatible with most phones and offer speeds comparable or faster than internal storage.
Samsung Note 9 was peak smartphone that had everything including waterproofing and headphone jack (in fact a very good DAC too) I've still got two 😂
The southeast asian market is such a fun market space for cheap and WTF phone.
I wanted the mini iPhone but was going to wait for v2 or v3. I loved my LG phones for features but the screens I got from rma and new kept getting burn in with setting set to lower brightness.
Really if companies wait a year or a couple and then announce a new phone it would be better. Sending out a new phone every year with minimum updates is boring.
Headphone jack and sd card are two reasons why I went with a Sony Xperia 1 VI
USB C is taking over everything. Which is good as it’s universal as usb c can be used as a headphone jack and display port out to HDMI.
all phones were good up until 2012 and expectable from then till 2020
i have a 13 pro max that i got when it came out and i have had absolutely zero interest in upgrading at all it has felt completely pointless
My iPhone 11 is only 64gb and right now I am only using 33.68gb of that and I’m using 6.4gb of 50gb of iCloud storage. I don’t really need much
are we showing of the best phone ever... the HTC One M8.
Not just good speakers but for the headphone jack it has an incredible DAC... before the V10 had one. ;)
i really do kinda miss my htc one phone
The LG V60 had/has a very respectable Quad DAC(headphone jack), IP68 water resistance, an SD card slot, 5,000mAH battery and a Dual-Screen case. Your justification for losing the headphone jack is hogwash.
Nobody bought them because LG didn't know how to market their phones at all. Nobody knew they existed. I showed my phone to multiple people and nobody had ever seen one or ever heard of it.
I'm getting my 5th Samsung phone that STILL has a headphone jack and still not looking for a IPhone. But I'm also not looking to get a Z Flip or Z Fold or a S Ultra either to expensive, not enough necessities, not enough solutions, not enough reason to get altogether. I'm not against the idea but if the newer phones cannot provide the same necessities that their old ones provided they're not worth it. It doesn't matter what new specs its got if it can't provide it can't for now. Wait for it to be better. This is the age of specs over classic hardware. The age of evolved phones that don't share the same necessities that they're intended for. The age of phones that were provided but aren't what was promised.
The headphone jack is actually one of the MOST waterproof parts of a phone! Its completely sealed on the inside.
my Pixel 8A has wireless charging without a glass back-plate
The only thing thats improving is processing power games benefit from it just look at the tripple A ports on the iphone 15 pro
slyly wish you used another company as an example eg Huawei or Xiaomi because they are big too yet they make risks and design choices or initiatives
There isn't a single phone made that's worth more than $200.
My phone has a 5000mah battery and a headphone jack. Battery is not a reason to not include it
Well.. Now ur choice is “over pay for the fruit phone!” or “Have Google find out my blood type and sell it Byer” or “There’s a Linux Phone?”
Bring back the headphone jack! Removable battery & storage!!
I really gotta know - are people really still that upset over the loss of the headphone jack and SD cards? It stung maybe a decade ago when it happened, but I personally don’t miss them at all now.
Maybe I’m not as much of a sweaty tech nerd as I used to be 💀
watching this on 12 mini feels so sad, I need new mini :(
Can someone tell me what the name of the song is at the beginning of this video?
phones used to have FLAT back. its been 20 years and they cannot remaster the camera to get back to basic. manufactures claims those cameras are sensitive buy why are they protruding if thats the case?
"It's not like we're defending the iphone" **makes a 15 minutes video defending the iphone**