What are Map Tiers? - Rocket Jumping Extra Credit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Having knowledge of how maps tiers work can help you gauge how the jumping community perceives the relative difficulties of different techniques and maps. Be careful you don't place too much emphasis on tiers, because individual experience will always be difficult for everyone. Take all of this with a grain of salt - both the tier a map is agreed to have and especially the relative difficulty I assigned to maps within the same tier.
Oh, and I should address a related topic: Players don't have tiers, maps do. People will call themselves "a T3 jumper", for example, if they've done a few T3 maps and feel comfortable with them, but there's nothing standard or official about this. Introducing yourself with your tier can lead to a hyper-focus on your skill level which can damage your mentality, slow your growth, and lessen the amount of fun you have. You have been warned.
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cant believe the skill ceiling of this, its insane. few years ago i thought t2 maps were crazy, and now ive completed almost all t5s and many t6s and theres still so much room to improve. Best gamemode of all time
I can barely do tier 4s
Cant even do t3 mid
And no matter what tier we are, we still consider ourselves bad.
Cant even do tier 1s
I’m getting ready to do my first t5
4:21 When I first started out, I couldn't dream of ever doing some of the very flashy jumps on normal maps, like sawmill, badlands, process, and who can forget the classic upwards rollouts.
The biggest hurdle I find going from t3 to t4 is that it's no longer adequate to simply perform the skills a jump asks of you. You have to perform them precisely. Sometimes I enjoy the challenge, but other times (looking at you stair pogos) I get annoyed because my speed/height aren't perfect.
This is pretty great to know. I'd always just hop into a server with a random jump map going with no prior knowledge of tiers and whatnot. My best go was doing 2 of the courses in 4starters, but I agree with the statement at the end, as every couple of months I'll return to jump_beef and see how quickly I can do it, or how many less attempts it takes to take on one or two of the jumps that will halt me for a couple minutes. Also so grateful to know jump_competitive exists. Thank you!
Ppl in the comments: talking about beating T3, T4, even T5 maps, pulling off triple syncs, etc.
Me, a T1 gibus jumper: *nervous sweating*
That moment when you realize that a regular triple sync is actually t2...
Just hearing jump_littleman finally being mentioned somewhere sent shivers down my spine. It was my first jump map I was introduced to back in 2013 and to this day I still can't beat the very last jump.
Hey thanks for making this video. I've never really gotten a walkthrough about the tier system. Just kinda loaded whatever map sounded coolest. Great and concise guide btw!
This is such a great tutorial. I also like how clear and concise your talking is.
new JA update, replaced all dedicated servers with jump_rickoconnel
thanks, and have fun
B r u h
T5 jumper here! great video, even though I knew already everything you said in it, everything was very well explained!
One other map I would recommend for T1 is tr_turner. It’s literally a map for only air strafing.
wow, this is really informative and helpful. Thank you!
your name seems familiar...
Maps like rickoconnell greatly interest me, even if they’re so far beyond what I can dream of achieving. I love seeing how rich mechanics in movement games/gamemodes can get!
you should try uranium. it's essentially a KZ map in tf2 jump. it's hilarious
@@tf_lecter what's KZ
@@FishyBoysss It's like parkour. It came from CSGO, it's basically just making tight jumps and using strafing to air accel. Kind of like bhop, but without the infinite speed gain that bhop has (and TF2 KZ has a much lower strafe speed than csgo).
(take this with a grain of salt, I don't really know anything about KZ, you can watch the jump_uranium wr, it's a KZ map for TF2 that includes just a little bit of rocket jumping)
@@zagrfige KZ didn't come from CSGO. It came from 1.6. KZ is short for Kreedz, the original creator of such maps.
Very helpful.
I'd like to have a list of T6 maps subdivided down to T10 or places discussing them.
Katto, the best jumper in the world when it comes to t6 prefire maps, made his own list at one point. As far as I know it's the only list out there. I have a few disagreements with it - some maps are considered significantly easier/harder than I think they should be (which makes sense, a higher level of skill can adjust your perception of difficulty). Most of the time, people who need a list just need a list of the easier t6 maps. Those who need to start distinguishing further between the other t6's tend to be connected enough with the jumping community to get personal recommendations from other jumpers. That assumption could be wrong though. After all, if a person isn't connected to the community, by definition they wouldn't be able to tell the community that they are lacking a useful resource.
@@Firestabber Where can this list be found? Also why do tier 0 jumps exist? lol
@@abcdefghijklmnope aight. Thanks for clarifying
I like the vid, I wouldn't consider sync a low t6 though. the water triple alone should put that map at t8
According to several high level jumpers I've played with on tempus, quints are generally said to be t4 and as of yet I've yet to play a t3 that has a proper quint. Most are quintable but can be done with just a quad. (I'm not certain about renard last however)
Also so sad that 3 of the 4 t5s i've completed are low t5 :((
Yeah, quints tend to be high t3, but t4 and even t5 if they're tight enough. Most t3 quints are loose enough to make with a pretty good quad. Don't worry that the t5's you've done are on the easier end - it means you've been doing a good progression of difficulty on the maps you're playing. And even if I'm listing them as easier, they're still t5's.
can confirm quints are t4. source im a high level jumper
@@Hockeyrocks44444 we're all high level jumpers here ;)
@@Hockeyrocks44444 quints are t10. Can't confirm, am a low level jumper
Quints are t1, can’t confirm, i jump as demo
1:37 good pun
This is a great video.
I can do low T3 atm, I hope I can do at least the easiest T6 one day
Great and informative video!
man really said ddpls is one of the best t5s 💀💀
Hey man great vid 👍
Damn, the 2 t3 maps that I completed is low and medium, (sketchy2 and sitood), oh well, jumpings fun and im seeking to improve
The maps that struggled so much are just low t2 lol
And I recently started to beat some of t3 maps. Guess ja2 was kinda helpful even it was too hard for me back then
Couple of T3 are harder than some T4.
I don't understand why raven and to lesser extent christmas are T3 and not T4.
And why home is T3 and not T2
To the point about christmas, I think it's just old and outdated. Some of the most awkward maps are in that old category and they didn't update the tiering for most of them.
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wow , jump_owakare is T7? , it is my first t6 map lol , i thought it would be same thing as junp_lion but a bit hard but i was wrong , however i just beaten it anyway
I was on the fence about listing Owakare as t6 or t7. I think if you have a really solid grasp of wall syncs Owakare becomes manageable enough to perhaps be someone's first t6. It's a tough map, congrats on beating it!
@@Firestabber thank you! ;D
@@Firestabber Where can I find these t1, t2, t3, t4, t5, t6 maps fast. I always just search "jump" in community servers and then I leave from those and finish those jumps in "create server" mode so I dont have any lags. But is there an easier way to find those maps? I would like to do other maps than just those basic maps. and PS: what tier is jump_zero_v2 and jump_academy2 hardest courses?
@@aaronkulonen6235 tempus has all the maps
@@aaronkulonen6235 JA2's hardest courses are arguably t3-t4
I’m currently a tier 2 Demo player dreaming to complete tier 5 and 6 maps.
how far have you come now?
Really sad to see you didn’t include soar in your t5 compliments :(
isnt their just one big map with one big flat area to practise the fast bunny hop?
I prefer jurf and mid tier maps, where you'll learn useful skills and how to control yourself...
I get that people love the challenge and satisfaction of syncing like 7 rockets but you're never going to do that in a game
I totally get that, felt the same way myself for a while too. Turns out doing those jumps teaches you a really precise and accurate sense of timing, spacing, and control of your character, though, so even if you never get to pull off that stuff while doing pvp, it still helps in some ways. Of course, if your primary focus is competitive rather than jumping, choosing to spend too much time working on rocket jumping is a mistake when you can put that time into other skills. Eventually, the "challenge and satisfaction" of doing hard jumps won me over and I found myself rocket jumping all the time rather than playing other stuff.
@@Firestabber a t6 jumper is scary to play in comp
Many people dont even play the regular game (including me) and just rocket jump to get better at rocket jumping
@@axiostechno Yeah, that's because TF2's the best single player game of all time, and the multiplayer is awful because it has sniper and sniper ruins everything.
I'm going to have to ask you to refrain from using such foul language, (j*rf) this is a jumper friendly channel and we can't have all these impressionable JA players thinking j*rf is acceptable behavior around here, so please, censor yourself.
Yes, I know this comment is a year old, no, I don't care, yes, you probably don't get the joke, no, I won't explain it.
I'm at the point where I can do t2 maps consistently and can do t3 maps if I spend enough time on them
good video but ddpls, sven, and littleman are not good t5s
Can i ask what's the level of tier 3 jump crunch?
in T1 Whats the name of server
bangarang and hanami are certainly t10
also no soar 🤨
I've heard people say those maps are for sure t10, and I've also heard people say nincompoop is for sure *not* t10. Tiers are estimations anyway, especially for what people say in the t10 scale. And yeah, the list of maps I made could have stuff traded in/out. I'd probably actually prefer the t5's without littleman and with soar instead. I didn't want to linger forever on exactly what maps I listed, so I just settled. Some of the suggestions are making me wish I mentioned other maps though :P
hanami is definately t10 intended but there's so much cheese for the map that it's t9, bangarang is debatable, I mean, compare it to the other prefire maps like rick and nincompoop and the records on those maps, slox86 goes way faster on bangarang. I've even heard people say nincompoop is t9 and bangarang is t8 (Bonzi, a completion main, has jump_nincompoop)
whats the server for these maps?
Cool
smh not mentioning vex or valley
How get?
Where jump_when
Best t1 map
Level 1: A child can do it with a few hours of practice
Level 2: You'll never be able to do 1 of these jumps for your entire pathetic existence