Audi S4 B9 3.0T, rocker arm service. What to expect from S4 with 55.000 miles on clock ?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2022
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welcome to our channel VAG Technic. In this video we will show you what it takes to replace the rocker arms in cylinder head for upgraded ones to prevent future issues .
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Great work most mechanics won't do this level of work
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My 2018 S4 has 6k miles on it and did an oil change with 0w20 not long ago, I immediately noticed the engine being louder and started researching this oil... I regret fully using 0w20 emission oil, I am shopping right now for 5w40 Motul Sport, seems to be the best choice and with zero oil consumption between changes.
Just a new subscriber, im lucky that i found your channel. Im new to Audi world and im enjoying all informative videos specially that i got similar 3.0 engines on my 2021 Q7 and 2022 S5. As of now both vehicle engines still behaves no ratling noises. Hope i could preserve the engines and don't want to experience those problems.
Wish you luck and keep up the good work.
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Great video! Glad you're back!!
Great Vid!!! something to keep in mind for my 2018 S5 sportback B9 3.0
me with a 35K mile S4 *SWEATS* - Subbed. Great video and channel.
Really enjoyed watching this. 👍
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Missed the videos more please 💯
Been following you guys ever since the RS5 video. As a B9 S4 owner I've also looked into the into the issue. There are over 100 b9 s4s in NZ (114 registered), and I've seen only one report about the rocker arm failure. I don't think it's scare mongering what you're doing, this is very informative and every owner should be aware of it. That said, there's small reason to be worried about the rocker arm as it's affecting only a small percentage. Awesome work as always guys and keep the B9 vids coming!
How do you see how many cars are in a certain state?
If it was truly so few, I don't see why Audi would go through the trouble of making, validating, and switching to a new part.
@@harmstrongg the same reason why we get a B9.5 facelift - not necessarily because there's something wrong with the previous gen, but because it's better.
But there was something wrong with them. And this guy's stats are sus. How would he know any of this?😅
@@harmstronggbean counters at VAG are always looking to streamline production wherever they can. The updated rockers share the same part # with the Urus, RSQ8 and other high performance cars. It could simply be to scale.
God knows where you guys are from, but you are brilliant without peer
Yes brother, VAG cars are the ones I love to work on and own. There are some that can't afford to own one of those cars, and make the mistake of buying one and almost always give up. Great video as always.
Not a fair comment most car are depreciating objects no one wants to spend thousands fixing a secondhand Audi when they’ve got life bills to pay. 👍🏾 example why is it that port injection standard for most Lexus Toyota cars but in 21st century Audi vw engines still dealing with engine carbon power robbing build up in 21st century?
Great video, very informative, Thank you.
keep the good videos coming
I got a 2018 S5 coupe in Black also on May. Absolutely love it. Found best example I could, Audi dealer from new ( 1 owner) and 10k miles. At £35k I prob paid top price but was right spec, condition, colour, mileage etc, so for me was well worth it.
Hello same here. Paid 43k usd for 2018 S5 prestige coupe Any problems yet?
You guys fixed my B8 S5 and i spent near 4k with you towards the end of last year, i traveled all the way from Scunthorpe and can deffo say these guys are the best! I sold the car for a FK8 type r and some times i wish i still had my s5 v6! u also did a tune with decat (with mallory performance) too and sounded great and pulled amazing! who ever owns that car now has a true gem! Best in the VAG game 🙏 i just left the car with them and just awaited the call, deffo recommend
And how much have u spent repairing the civic up till now?
@@riccccccardo not a penny lad
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I’m soooo happy to see you guys drain the oil from the drain plug and not from the top. Any more supercharged hoodies in stock?
Good filming guys
Wow you guys make that job look easy. I wish I can find shop like you guys near me in usa for my my car needs work. We all know ea888s need tlc at times xD
Nice job guys.
Nice work...and very sound! Heat kills parts so when the water cooled air charger fails...heat overcomes. My advice would be to delete water cooled air charger for upgraded air to air. They have worked fine for a long time. VAG probably did that because of spacial issues but, a well engineered unit should exceed the stock water cooled unit.
I got a stock 2018 SQ5 with only 35k km now I'm scared. Will do at least the oil change asap.
Great video as always!
I have a stock 2018 S4 Avant with 50.000 km and I change the 0W20 oil every 15.000 km. It’s a good engine. Don’t be scared.😎👍
Love the video. My Oil filter housing is leaking. Ordered a gasket and awaiting delivery. Was hoping you would take the one off this :)
Great content as always. Where did you guys get timing tools
Hi guys this is pure talent and skill keep up the good work ,if I may ask how can I get those fender covers which you are using on this video. Thanks in advance.
After watching the rs5 video. I changed out the oil on my B9 S4 to 5w30. I have subscribed now and look forward to more videos .
which brand did you change to? And how has it been working out for you?
@@empireanglers8604 I’m using castrol edge. 5w30 as cost rip is recommended by Audi. It’s on the oil cap. Never had any issues with it any of my other cars.
Is millers any good ?
@@yacubahmed4165 yep millers oil is decent. I ran it I’m my Subaru.
Are you in the US? Ive got a 2018 S4 with 74k miles... curious if I should switch to 5w30.. I thought about it but heard its not good for the new engines nowadays because cars arent designed for thicker oil.
Thank the maker i found these amazing videos before buying a 2017 s4! Also, too bad i've fallen in love with them before discovering this is a 'potential' issue. Has definitely factored into what I'm prepared to pay for a used version (plan for the worst and hope for the best!).
Look into 2020 onwards models, they fixed this issue
@@bgbq8591 In the rest of the world besides Europe. The EU & UK B9.5 is a TDI diesel.
I do like yr honesty re yr comment they trying to squeeze loads of power out of small engines as Toyota tend to have large engines with smaller power which is great for the life of the engines.
Brill love watching
Great content. Do you not do anything with s3 .
Glad to see you guys are back. Do the 2019 (Dec build) S5 have the same issue? Got 30k miles currently so I want to make sure it won’t blow up on me.
I’m in the same boat, 2 more years to pay-off, and intend to keep the wagon. Such a rarity in France only 5 I think petrol
Good to see you back, bit scary problems at such low mileage?
This was prevention . 🤗
Great video again! My b6 4.2 s4 has full milltek exhaust and does this random code from b1 or b2 saying that "Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold". Car works fine and i can erase the code away for 1 to 4 weeks before it randomly pops up again. Any cure for that? Im 99% sure that those cats are fine because just did yearly inspection where those exhaust gases are being measured and everything went just fine.
I think I Will stock to other brands after looking at your videos. Porsche seems the way to go, Even if it is a vag product 😂
literally the same motor 🤣
I drive this road as well 😁
Reliability: Love Audi's, love the sound they make, even more love how they look. Heart says audi but my conscious brain says bmw's b58 s58...
" Reliability" after 55,000 miles ?
Why do customers all ask you not to drive the cars hard, you just had the whole engine on the table, if you blow it up then it'd be you guys fixing it?
Awesome video as always men!
I don’t know tbh ……. But we have loads of costumers here as well who ask us to drive it hard 😂
@@VAGTechnic Haha well I'd want you to, to make sure it is tested! You do work on the 3.0TDI engines as well don't you?
Incredible knowledge
Nice, informative video. What oil would you suggest for 3.0TFSI@S5 2018. Audi suggest SAE 508 and it only comes with 0W20. Which spec oil would be better?
Do you have a guide on how to replace the friction discs (Diamond discs) on the camshaft adjusters? The Audi Service manual seems to lack the steps and torque specs for the bolts
What brand oil do yall recommend if someone was to switch to 5w30 or 40? Also, you guys are awesome! Wish yall were in the USA....maybe expand??? LOL.
Redline 5w-40
nice
See my e888 2.0 tsi 2019 left the factory with 5w30 first service at 11k was 5w30 but vag switched mine to 0w20 it’s like water! I think it’s bull, but I have service plan and so the dealer has done 2 service with 0w20!
to prevent all engine failures put 5w30 engine oil in it then it is pretty much bullet proof as you said
my 18 s4 just had my rocker arms break on me. 45k miles. wrote up as long block so hopefully they do it right. been almost 2 months out of service.
Welcome in the club 😞
Hello guys ,i really apreciate your work , i have an issue with my audi a6 c6 2018 3.0 tfsi DLZA , and no mecanic figure it out until now , i have a clacking noise from the engine on the left bank ,and is more noisy on low gear 1 and 2 , i already changed the variator from exhaust bank on the left and cheked everything at Audi dealership ,the care have 150 000km ,can you give me a hint please i am realy an impass wright now and dont know what to check .
Thank you in andvance
Thank you for the very good content! Do you know an official TPI (Technische Produkt Information) Number from Audi for this problem?
What would you recommend as preventative? Do I have to wait until this sound happens or can I get pre-emptive work done to avoid any issues?
Is it just what you did in this video or are there other known issues?
For example on my BMW e64 it has a known problem with the rod bearings and the vanos lines. (around 50-60K) so the day I got the car I replaced both with improved quality and design (larger gap) so that I wouldn't ever have to worry about those issues....
What's the equivalent for this car? (2018 B9 S4) 72Kmi
Also if you wouldn't mind disclosing, what is the ballpark in USD for the parts/labor??
I recently bought a 2018 B9 SQ5 and have what seems to be a tapping lifter - 66k miles. Any recommendations? Nothing I’m doing with fluids seems to change the tap tap tapping sound from the left side of the engine.
Is it always an engine out job for walnut blast and rocker arm replacement on the b9 s4 tfsi?
How do you set the diagnose rocker arms?
Great work as always, I would still like to know the cost for a job like this, rocker arm preventive job. Thanks!
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I’ve seen you mentioned engines from July 2019 have the revised rocker arms but I can’t seem to find any car be it s4,s5, sq5 that are 69 reg onwards that aren’t the facelift diesel engine. Am I missing something here? I want to keep the 3.0 petrol
Do these rattle there balls off till oil pressure hits the chain tensioners, always my fav part crossing ur fingers and hoping it don’t jump lol. If I can I try to crank with no fuel to get some oil pressure, but I can’t always do that just wondering how u do it on these.
amazing video and amazing work! I'm in the process of buying a S5 sportback and this video has me concerned. is this a common issue and is it on all B9 manufacturing years?
He mentions - remedied by Audi from builds July 2019 onwards.
@@benp7061 ahh... Well I'm super glad they revised this and fixed the issue. I love the sportback S5/RS5 it would have been to unfortunate to pass up ownership because of such a major issue. Thank you for cleaning this up for me.
@@Lucas-ie2ti If you're weighing up RS5 vs S5, interesting that Tom mentions the S5 might be the better proposition. (towards end of vid) Simpler, and safer? to remap for gains, than the more complex RS engine...
What’s the issue with the vacuum on oil filler cap ?
Great work as usual 👍
Vacuum is due to the PCV system which counteracts blowby. It'd be bad news if there wasnt any, as you could blow seals in the engine.
Right, thanks for that 👍
I thought something was faulty
So what sound am I looking when seeing if I have this issue? Do I take the oil cap off and listen for tinks? 2018 S5
I see you used bg109. Best engine flush out there
Why use engine flush? Engine oil suspected contamination?
You think better than LiquiMoly Engine Flush?
I’ve read in forums that it seems like the rocker arm issue was fixed in models after 2019. I have a 2020 b9 so I was hoping I was safe from this. Have you worked on any 2020+ s4 or have any thoughts? Love the videos btw.
Thanks , no , all of them under 2019
@@VAGTechnic inclouding 2019? My panamera 2.9T leave factory is 2018.10.16
I have a B8 2012 3.0tfsi Supercharged S4 Avant with 101,000 miles, and want to know what oil I should use, and how often it should be changed. I do get it serviced at an Audi main dealer.
Great Video! I have a 2022 S5 Sportback in America w/ 12,600 miles 18 months old. No issues yet. Are my Rocker Arms up to Date with the New Design? I anticipate the Carbon cleaning around 60K Miles, but should I change the Water Pump at that time? And thanks for the heads up on the Oil Issue, I plan on changing to 5W-30 Oil next oil change. Also, Should I change the oil every 6K miles instead of 10K miles. I have had one service & oil change at 8K already.
Yes you’d definitely have the new rocker arm design
Aren’t a-lot of Audi’s vehicles made in Slovakia 🇸🇰 ? I’m guessing if they are they have some great Audi mechanics there.
Hi guys what does it cost to in labour to do the upgraded rocker arms ive a b9 s5 and what is the part number for those upgraded rockers I may have to get them a few at a time and save some cash up to get job done.
I have a 2019 S5. Would you recommend 0W-20 or 5W-20?
dunno about the wagon version but in sedans some do come with a sports diff
why the engine does not work well when you open de oil cap? I don't understand because oil compartment is independent of the compression chambers. I don't unerstand it, in my S5 also happens
This car is a no brainer. It is so cheap and easy to get warranty for it, so no fear of engine exploding. 700pounds per year up to 6 years of age and 100k miles. And that includes bushes and CV joints. I'm seriously thinking to upgrade from my 2.0tdi a5 to s5
Is that a warranty from Audi or 3rd party?
@@torty1993 audi uk
Hi guys, I got an A4 B7 3.2fsi Quattro and for 2 years now I am driving with a RED warning on high RPM saying "Low Oil Pressure", someone told me this should be the oil sensor, could that be the real problem? - the car drives as new, just increased consumption. The "error" goes away when going back on "cruise" mode and nothing changes even if I drive it at 6000rpm for a longer run.
I have a 3.0T in the 2018 SQ5 noticed when I come off the accelerator after giving it a bit of power it holds on accelerating for about a half of a second once I take my foot of accelerator any idea what this can be
Hello, what kind of oil do you use in this engine ?
Thank you !
5w30 or 5w40 also what brand ? And millers any good ?
Great job guys. Wish I could get you guys to swap my rocker arms out. Do you happen to have the part number for the rocker arms? And how many total need to be ordered? Thanks!
0P2109417 and you need 24 of them
Love your videos ! Pure experience honest explanations! Love them !
The quality of audis is degrading over the years! Basically after 2.2T and after 1.8T they made only bulshit!
Not forget to mention audi is "branding" a quite cheap oil for the genuine oil, so avvoyd "genuine oil" !
How much does this job cost. I'm in 🇬🇧 & have a 2018 S4 stage 2 on 30k miles.
Have you guys heard of earlier dates than the 7/19 you talked about having fixed rocker arms? I've heard of some on early 19 or even late late 18
Also would you guys suggest 0w30? You suggested 5w30 and 5w40. I heard cold start needs lots of lubrication for these motors. Is the 5w increase important here?
5w40 , they can’t have them when they start Manufacture 2019 July
What problems you see on RS3 that’s common to break
VAG gurus. What was the flashing light on the s4 dash when test driving?
that was sign recognition
I just got an '21 SQ5 (B9.5). Is there a problem with the rocker bearings? Was it fixed at some point at the factory? (I'll start googling, but if you knew, that'd be cool).
You have upgraded ones already
You can change the rocker arms without removing the engine. Audi center does it without dismantling. In case anyone doesn't know. Is a work of max. 1-2 days.
How much Audi center charge for this job 🤔
@@plamenivanov4331 nothing warranty
@@6xXMiLoOXx2 how did you explain the issue to them mate I am under warranty and looking for some advice
@@plamenivanov4331 After it broke, I had it repaired. But changing the rocker arms is not difficult.
And how would you do the carbon clean with engine in place?
Can you give a ball park figure for preventative replacement of rocker arms with carbon clean under the assumption that nothing else gets discovered that needs doing please ?
3900£ is for this kind of job
I read on the forums that this is fixed in late 2018 and 2019 models, is that true ? Im currently in between getting a 19' ( i like the look more) or a new 22' ( has a warranty).
July 2019
And those guys know what they're doing especially the the guy that's doing the narrator and driving the, man I sure like to know what do you think about 2014-15 and 13 S5 with 100,000 miles should you buy it or not
I heard this problem was addressed and fixed for 2019 models and up
Correct July 19 onwards
Didn’t the diesel come out by then
You never mentioned the approximate cost for parts and labor to upgrade the rocker arms and carbon cleaning?
No point , every job is different.
Would you say the rocker arms are serviceable without dropping the engine from the car? Had you done that mainly to do the carbon cleaning?
PLEASE shoot us an answer on this. I can do mechanical work. I do NOT have a lift, though.
@@LukeEdward To lift the top of the cylinder heads off it looks like they had to remove the casing over the cam adjusters which sit back near the heat shield in the engine bay. I doubt that's something you can access to while it's in the car but there's a comment below saying Audi can do it... If you have this car and you're wanting to do this work, then you might as well do the carbon clean (valves) etc anyway which is definitely not possible with an engine in.
I been telling people for years to run 5w30
I was thinking why if switching from 0w 20 to 5w 30 or 40? Those engines are to be modern components which the engines basically tighter than most engines, to circulate and prevent heat properly. Those engines should have a better design for not falling apart for those rocker arms. Never have a better improper for modern engines.
What are these wheels?
How much did this cost dave