A theory for the miracle at 39:55. As the nuke explodes the hit box of the transport is just outside the full-damage radius but the carried SCU closest to the nuke is inside the full-damage radius. The transport takes 500 damage from the nuke and 1000 damage from the SCU explosion. A Sera T2 transport has 1625 HP. When you hover your mouse over it after the miracle, it has 121 HP. 1625 HP - 500 HP - 1000 HP = 125 HP. Don't know about the missing 4 HP, but the maths is close. So, the nuke does not "blast one of the SCUs out of the transport", the nuke kills one of the SCUs, and its wreck falls out. All four SCUs that are in the water near where the wreck falls were there already before this miracle.
I LOVED this one, how the frontlines were so unstable, how the dynamic changes in both ponds, how the endgame was a race against time for both players, Absolutely amazing
@@r3dp9 No doubt. Team 2 had a definite disadvantage with the 800/900 players. Lots of instability through the first half with the lowest ranked player being given the causeway bridgehead position. That was some serious strugglebus gameplay . Trying to make expensive naval units instead of focusing on ground forces and letting the top left run navy... Didn't work out too well for him.
Zmei was truly terrific. Too bad about that sound bug. Still a bit weird nukedefs weren't spammed all over as soon as first one dropped, but that's SC 4v4 for you
I love the mass flack defence. I think people sleep on mass flack, it just really punishes any of the normal "circle" play for ASFs, and basically eliminates t3 gunships from contention entirely. All that for a relatively cheap lategame investiment as well.
Zmei Gorinich is a three (usually, may be 6, 9 or 12) headed dragon-like monster from Russian folktales. "Zmei" means "serpent", "Gorinich" may be translated as "fiery".
49:10 'Does that mean he's taken out the SMD in this base?' *A few minutes earlier while he was watching the GC take on the Megalith. It hit the power grid and then turned and destroyed the SMD before dying*
Are there any Seton's variants in which the sea zones are drained? Would make for an interesting match. I know everyone is dedicated to Setons its one of like two maps in FAF since SupCom1 was the multiplayer client.
do you know what happened to TA4Life? i was watching some of his older casts and he brings you up occasionally hahaha. im glad you're still casting games. have you ever tried making walkthroughs of those insanely hard co-op maps FAF adds?
I strongly suspect the whole "no nuke sound" claim was just an attempt to save face after the initial nuke which took out the first batch of support commanders (who wouldn't have escaped anyway, what are they going to do, jump off the cliff into the water?), and then Zmei had to maintain the lie for the rest of the game. Besides which, having nuke sounds would have made pratically no difference. It wouldn't have magically meant the SMD on the side island was loaded. It wouldn't have saved his base. It wouldn't have saved rock.
no nuke sound glitch does happen, had it happen to me, to couple of other people. it's rare and it's probably fault of some ui mods he had (if he had any) tho nuke sound didnt matter cause DePonny spammed them, and zmei could have predicted it, and already had anti nuke loaded on island and couple in his base. his fault 100%. oh and nuke sound glitch matters only in first 1-3 nukes probably, after that it's your fault for not having anti, in my opinion.
I'm struggling to understand how things turned so badly against team 1. It wasn't even that they got their SMD sniped either. Zme had incredible mass production for most of the late game and seemingly accomplished so little with it.
min 33 you can see pony snipe smds for the nukes and he does so every few mins after gyle never picked it up, yellow was t2 bombed in mid and it looks like he went for red smd at same time
I'm not sure on this one. Early on DePony wins air superiority in a BIG way and goes for mass torpeod bomber spam to buy the North pond like... 5 minutes of life when he could have built 10 strat bombers and carpet bombed blue and grey's mass to death then looped round both sides and dropped all remaining bombs dead centre on the T3 Air HQ. It's a game winning play surely? No aircraft left. One or two SAM sites. Fly ASF's in ahead of the bombers... its surefire. I respect the attempt to hold the pond but the eco kill was wide open and he could have capitalised on that air dominance to ENSURE it continued. As it was he let team 1 back into this game in a huge way.
You know, I actually have to give credit to Sexyboss, he was a pretty good damage sponge for his team. He really took the heat off his other members by taking the attention of their dominant naval player lol
Nice that you are back :D This may have been asked already, but have you considered showing some "Beyond all reason" Gameplays? I think that game is astonishing!! Have a nice day :)
Red just stopped working on economy and didn't build anything game endery, only did air cover which didn't cut the mustard. I don't know why they don't transition to ras sacu and just keep it rolling.
Why didn't Zmei use teleport on his support commanders. He had plenty of them and could've made small little bases or attack vital points. He wasted dozens of them. Poor play from him, feeding the grinder piece by piece at the end. Or maybe not even use teleport and just have guncom instead. Use the transports on the cliff and the beach, with shields they are hard to take down
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I love the fact that this series has been going on for so long and still keeps the game alive after so many years.
truely amazing
a good caster and a game that stand the time.
That one nuke launcher destroyed 12,5% of all the mass produced by enemy team in an epic game. Brilliant!
A theory for the miracle at 39:55. As the nuke explodes the hit box of the transport is just outside the full-damage radius but the carried SCU closest to the nuke is inside the full-damage radius. The transport takes 500 damage from the nuke and 1000 damage from the SCU explosion. A Sera T2 transport has 1625 HP. When you hover your mouse over it after the miracle, it has 121 HP. 1625 HP - 500 HP - 1000 HP = 125 HP. Don't know about the missing 4 HP, but the maths is close. So, the nuke does not "blast one of the SCUs out of the transport", the nuke kills one of the SCUs, and its wreck falls out. All four SCUs that are in the water near where the wreck falls were there already before this miracle.
I LOVED this one, how the frontlines were so unstable, how the dynamic changes in both ponds, how the endgame was a race against time for both players, Absolutely amazing
Goes to show that having the will to fight is just as important as having the ability to fight.
@@r3dp9 No doubt. Team 2 had a definite disadvantage with the 800/900 players. Lots of instability through the first half with the lowest ranked player being given the causeway bridgehead position. That was some serious strugglebus gameplay . Trying to make expensive naval units instead of focusing on ground forces and letting the top left run navy...
Didn't work out too well for him.
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I have my warm beverage, the rain is pattering outside and I have Gylecast in front of me. A recipe for perfection!
Same thing for me without the first part but i have a nice and warm bed while its raining 🤌
@@Berilaco Awesome!
Zmei was truly terrific. Too bad about that sound bug. Still a bit weird nukedefs weren't spammed all over as soon as first one dropped, but that's SC 4v4 for you
was entirely Noobypl's fault. Had air dominance and refused to strat even once.
Impressive eco, but some more standoff weapons would probably have done more for them than all those SACUs...
I thought he did a fine job with the Broadswords, just needed more aggression with them @@andrewlipp2296
I love the mass flack defence. I think people sleep on mass flack, it just really punishes any of the normal "circle" play for ASFs, and basically eliminates t3 gunships from contention entirely. All that for a relatively cheap lategame investiment as well.
Zmei Gorinich is a three (usually, may be 6, 9 or 12) headed dragon-like monster from Russian folktales. "Zmei" means "serpent", "Gorinich" may be translated as "fiery".
And "ch" in this case pronounced like in "child" or "chair"
Was about to watch an older Gyle Cast but right on time for a new one!
Nothing like a Classic Seton round.
Some things never seen before, and some things I never get enough of, what an excellent game and an excellent cast. Thank you very much Gyle.
49:10 'Does that mean he's taken out the SMD in this base?'
*A few minutes earlier while he was watching the GC take on the Megalith. It hit the power grid and then turned and destroyed the SMD before dying*
it was rebuilt tho in the same spot. an easy miss. it just was not loaded when the nuke landed it was hiding right on that ridge line.
STRATEGIC LAUNCH DETECTED
SETONS?
Neuron Activation!
I'm not sure if Nuke sounds would have helped with how much they got blanketed by them. After a point you just kind of accept your fate.
Fantastic exciting game with plenty of interesting strategies and lots of nukes! Great players & great cast! :)
What a game. I think Zmei threw enough mass on the rock to build 2 Yolona Oss.
Zmei Gorinich is from an old Russian cartoon. Zmei means snake. Said like it's spelled.
Yeah, old cartoon from early medieval. Эти русские такие затейники...
Are people still playing this? Just discovered your videos - fantastic excitement to see there is more than 100 lol
God how I miss playing this game, I haven't played since about 2014 and I sadly don't have a pc to play it again.
Are there any Seton's variants in which the sea zones are drained? Would make for an interesting match. I know everyone is dedicated to Setons its one of like two maps in FAF since SupCom1 was the multiplayer client.
do you know what happened to TA4Life? i was watching some of his older casts and he brings you up occasionally hahaha. im glad you're still casting games. have you ever tried making walkthroughs of those insanely hard co-op maps FAF adds?
Every game better than the last! This is why i come to gyle cast
An EPIC Apocalyptico. What an interesting game with brilliant commentary! Beautiful :)
Gyle Gyle!
It's a good day when gyle posts, it's an even better day when the matches uses my favorite map
"CZ is probably a clan tag"... yeah, for the Czech Republic 🤣
Such a good game, great job on team 1 for managing to time so many nukes around the SMD!
I just love this series... Waiting for much much more videos
I strongly suspect the whole "no nuke sound" claim was just an attempt to save face after the initial nuke which took out the first batch of support commanders (who wouldn't have escaped anyway, what are they going to do, jump off the cliff into the water?), and then Zmei had to maintain the lie for the rest of the game. Besides which, having nuke sounds would have made pratically no difference. It wouldn't have magically meant the SMD on the side island was loaded. It wouldn't have saved his base. It wouldn't have saved rock.
no nuke sound glitch does happen, had it happen to me, to couple of other people. it's rare and it's probably fault of some ui mods he had (if he had any) tho nuke sound didnt matter cause DePonny spammed them, and zmei could have predicted it, and already had anti nuke loaded on island and couple in his base. his fault 100%. oh and nuke sound glitch matters only in first 1-3 nukes probably, after that it's your fault for not having anti, in my opinion.
@@chara6626 Has absolutely happened to me a couple of times before. No rhyme or reason I could fathom for why.
@@eliminshrintar probably some old old glitch, game is old so hard to say what bites with what. tho it's pretty rare glitch.
Yay Setons, I'm ready 😃
Always a good day when Gyle uploads
I would love to see a dual gap cast and then focus a bit more on the front players
I'm struggling to understand how things turned so badly against team 1. It wasn't even that they got their SMD sniped either. Zme had incredible mass production for most of the late game and seemingly accomplished so little with it.
min 33 you can see pony snipe smds for the nukes and he does so every few mins after gyle never picked it up, yellow was t2 bombed in mid and it looks like he went for red smd at same time
correction min 35
@@airassy Thanks. The cast shows at least 6 SMDs at various points, but I think only the one fighter bomber snipe on red.
Uef developed blowing the aircraft up off the water rather than sucking the air through the engine.
"i hope you die first so i don't have to pronounce your name" is pretty raw
Highly entertaining game. I noticed there was a lack of mobile T3 AA.
1:58 Sees DePonny. Guess voting I’m Team 2 today.
Suprised none of the other team mates told Sliq to get out the top pond way before it was needed. That was a 200 rank error!
I'm not sure on this one. Early on DePony wins air superiority in a BIG way and goes for mass torpeod bomber spam to buy the North pond like... 5 minutes of life when he could have built 10 strat bombers and carpet bombed blue and grey's mass to death then looped round both sides and dropped all remaining bombs dead centre on the T3 Air HQ. It's a game winning play surely? No aircraft left. One or two SAM sites. Fly ASF's in ahead of the bombers... its surefire. I respect the attempt to hold the pond but the eco kill was wide open and he could have capitalised on that air dominance to ENSURE it continued. As it was he let team 1 back into this game in a huge way.
ou yeah...today is gyle cast day :)
Zmei gorinich (ch as in chair)
Is a monster from Russian Folklore
Zmei means Snake
Its like a hydra/dragon monster
Just for u Gyle
Glorious game!
You know, I actually have to give credit to Sexyboss, he was a pretty good damage sponge for his team. He really took the heat off his other members by taking the attention of their dominant naval player lol
Great game. Thanks Gyle.
DePonny always shows you that you can still win when you've only got 600 mass income vs enemy beach at 900 mass income
40:10 Well, that's something new lore-related.
is it that time already
Strategic Launch Strategic Launch Strategic Launch Detected
"dude, where's my fleet" hahahahahahaha
Yes yes yes anather setons epic event
great commentary as always
Favorite map ever!
Nice that you are back :D This may have been asked already, but have you considered showing some "Beyond all reason" Gameplays? I think that game is astonishing!! Have a nice day :)
Great E sports spectating.
"Give me some mass, sexyboss" request for the ages.
Wow embarassing behavior by Zmei. Not hearing the nuke warning doesn't mean you can't fight back. He just didn't plan.
34:33 ❤ I hope the bugs you have encountered when you tried it on the patreon channel are issues of the past.
Dang! That was a good one. WP to all :D
Twas a fun game to be fair, always a up hill fight !!
uestion why build they not for adjancy bonus?
Red just stopped working on economy and didn't build anything game endery, only did air cover which didn't cut the mustard. I don't know why they don't transition to ras sacu and just keep it rolling.
Is Setons clutch a bit unbalanced, as the Salem wrecks are closer to Team 1's beach player than Team 2's?
Setons is the best map!
Mom looks i am on tv)
thx for the video :)
drink every time phone rings
go go team 2!
I was rooting for werty but my guy dropped the ball on putting pressure on the land battle.
I feel bad saying it but I raged so much about SliQ......I may need anger management
I'd love to see a game of Seton's Clutch, except the map is rotated 90 degrees just to fuck with people
Zee better than zed confirmed! 🤣
Have you guys considered trying out Beyond All Reason?
ZmeiGorinich GYLE! The "Z" is silent!
Nice
I have never seen that many nukes
BODESWODE
having no smd sound is not really a good enough excuse imo. you should still be building smd in your base regardless if you can hear them or not
W game
Why didn't Zmei use teleport on his support commanders. He had plenty of them and could've made small little bases or attack vital points. He wasted dozens of them. Poor play from him, feeding the grinder piece by piece at the end. Or maybe not even use teleport and just have guncom instead. Use the transports on the cliff and the beach, with shields they are hard to take down
He could have built a Yolo with all the mass that got airlifted into the nuke grinder...
Nuke sound is bull, set a timer. Assume they are coming.
why have no fairies died recently?
gg
Really, they wayy I look at it is after FAF, there is no need for any more RTS....I am extremely biased but this is just my opinion.
A little late XD
i like the Ukranian colours but the blue should be on the top
They beat America and pakistan
Yikes
good vid apart from taking God in vain
They beat America and pakistan