With the Eco advantage, Sasin's air control and gamer's massive mismanagement of multiple multiple megaliths, this is really a case of Team 1 snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
For all Sassin's griping, C4RL170S was doing an awful lot for his team, holding off heavy pressure along that west flank and putting it on Stux. Stux was compaining that the reason he "literally cannot" build an SMD was there was too much pressure from C4RL170S.
For what it's worth, I never said every player played badly. So, hypothetically, if C4rl played well and others didn't, my point still would have stood. Also to be clear, I'm not proud of the griping and don't think it's a good look to get frustrated at teammates like that and try to avoid it. BUT, C4rl basically held left, at best tied there. And, his direct opponent spent 40k mass to rush out a novax, around the same time as my ML. And that novax killed a ton and helped win the game for them. If you stalemate your opponent in land, but the opponent builds a novax, you probably didn't have a great game! That said, he was against 2 acus for a while, and Freedom's was super upgraded. Generally though, yeah, shouldn't gripe during the game! Just take the L and move on. Was just tough because I felt I put everyone in a great position to win, throughout. And I don't like air :D.
@@samasin5565 Constructive criticism is fine. Being overly negative isn't. The difference between the 2 can be in the wording of the message. I think that all you need to do is to word your comments better (more positively, more positive spin) in the future in order to become the sort of player that's a pleasure to play with.
Stux here, and yes, the pressure from Carlitos plus the unexpected double spider from dark grey and sasin earlier on, catching me with my pants down making satellites made it so that an SMD just wasn't in the cards. Also, if you're wondering, I knew the nuke was coming for a long time and didn't bother dodging it because my eco was kinda better off in someone else's hands anyway. My position left me holding the line indefinitely, and not much else.
Gyle, have you considered releasing videos as premiers? This would allow viewers to watch the game together via the chat feature, perhaps taking sides rooting for different teams or picking out plays and making theories. Also, premiers do not show how long the video is, which will lend an air of mystery and tension similar to your attempts a few years ago by having video down time so as not to spoil the ending.
15:31 There was a game Gyle cast on a custom map where the player thought running into the water would save him, but it was too shallow to help, and that water looks really shallow (but apparently isn't). I'm surprised Gyle doesn't focus in on the com going red. Considering how outnumbered he's been, CubeMD did pretty well.
What an absolut beast of a game and cast. Great work! 1:00:57 "Team kept bitching" I mean it was his choice. Maximus only suggested to strat the smd and pinged his strats once. Sometimes the sheelds are stronger than you think and with all that AA its hard.
Well Gyle... I've waited 10 months not to watch your videos until I was next badly poorly so here i am with Gout, possible 7 days off and it's time to watch 10 months worth!
1:05:15 Can we take a moment to appreciate the amount of T3 mobile shields hugging that fatboy? I think what sealed that game was when the top team won the naval battle on the right. Instead of contesting, the bottom team pulled back to a sensible and defensible position, instead of wasting any further resources on a lost cause. Worse, the top team couldn't even conquer the territory they won for reclaim or mexes. It's a case of knowing when to cut your losses, I thin. A whole bunch of other stuff was going on that I couldn't keep track of, but I think that was part of it.
About the Megalith that didn't get shot by the Battleship. There was a mechanic in the game at some point in the original game(s) where units partially submerged in the water counted as underwater, making them untargetable by anything but torpedoes. But I'm not sure if that mechanic still exists in FAF....
Mannnnnnnnn, gyle only ever casts games where I'm half asleep and play like my brain is missing a cortex lmao edit: actually it wasn't too bad, I just didn't get to do anything spectacular.
So frustrating when people built hordes of powerful units and then don't send them in, and just leave them hanging around missing the opportunity, getting picked off by air. And worse, when people build experimentals and hordes of units, but not a single anti-air unit to accompany them. Instead they rely on their air player to use their air force to defend their units, which literally NEVER HAPPENS!
I maintain that the single thing you could do to make a team stronger, is to have one member of the team dedicated entirely to spectating and communicating with allies.
41:34 "He needs to be put out of his misery" LMAO Felt bad for Gamer9xxx. He had timed that ML rear attack so well. Must have been gutted when it stalled underwater.
Sasin ctrl+K'd, but the Megalith was in the water, and it has NASTY torpedoes, so it didn't need to ground fire, you can see how it chews through the support commanders.
9:17 Obligatory reminder to please go back to income, rather than leave it on reclaim -- especially on a map where you just discussed how little reclaim there is.
I don't know how you lost? You had the better eco to begin with, you landed a nuke, took out a player, far better air game, repelled every exp with basically unlimited reclaim to follow, even won navy on the side.. I am truly amazed. But you did play very well imo 😎🤕🥵
@@onkeldunkel665 Cos he mostly kept his air force in defense rather than using it for offense. Tbf he can't see the map as much as spectators like us can.
Eww, Sasin turned so salty towards the end. I really liked his attitude in the beginning, but he's really gotten himself tilted big time. Hasn't bothered scooping up the mass fields, didn't rebuild Mass Extractors. Even if he himself couldn't use the mass in the end, after his build capacity was wiped, the others could still pump out units with overflow. For 900 ranking, CybranCommander did a good job tho.
Whats with people sending out experimental without any mobile AA, was painful to watch gamer repeat it. A few flak and a few T3 AA would have gone a very long way helping those megalith
That's something I've noticed in general - a lot of ground main players do not build any AA units at all and count on Air focus players to defend them, which often ends up with them losing a ton because air players is hitting enemy air player's main air group and leftovers are left vs no AA at all.
@@dracoknight9066 Yeah completely agree, people seem to think having an air player means not having to think about air at all.... I have seen teams lose air and not even build sams then 10 mins later rage at their air player because they are being bombed.
The battleships in late game is a good choice for pink since they're only countered by air force whereas they have air superiority. Also they give some good anti enemy ground experimental coverage, meaning they make pink's base significantly harder to attack. Yes, this might push the enemy into more nukes and artillery, but pink has shown capable of sniping those and that would leave the enemy weak to counter offenses by experimentals. Pink's air superiority is the main issue why it wouldn't have been a good choice for other team, even though denying those resources and the pressure on Pink's ally would have given them more of an advantage than what pink is gaining from it now.
48:48 Oof, too many of the same approach in the same place. I predict those resources that went into the megas instead of ASFs is going to lose the game, since the megas didn't get enough done and well get "scoopy scoopied" by the other teeam.
Sasin had air dominance for most of that game, but did nothing with it. No gunship plays, no strat bomber runs until too late, and then badly executed... really wasted a major advantage
Did light blue do anything? Barely had any units. He just sat there and base built. Didn't even make any T3 arty. Utterly useless, I'd of told him either make yourself useful or transfer your stuff to someone else.
Sasin was the worst but highest rank. He played like a noob that couldn't even turtle properly. At least the other low ranks could turtle and came through at the end.
Don't worry, Biden will send another $10 billion to Ukraine to boost Zelensky's GR to 2170. That way, it'll help prolong the horror and Old Joe will continue to get his 10% until Bad Orange Man takes office.
This game needlessly requires too much micro and apm. It ends up just being a zerg rush apm test. RTS is more like RTTactics the only strategy is paper rock scissors and spinning plates.
With the Eco advantage, Sasin's air control and gamer's massive mismanagement of multiple multiple megaliths, this is really a case of Team 1 snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
For all Sassin's griping, C4RL170S was doing an awful lot for his team, holding off heavy pressure along that west flank and putting it on Stux. Stux was compaining that the reason he "literally cannot" build an SMD was there was too much pressure from C4RL170S.
For what it's worth, I never said every player played badly. So, hypothetically, if C4rl played well and others didn't, my point still would have stood.
Also to be clear, I'm not proud of the griping and don't think it's a good look to get frustrated at teammates like that and try to avoid it.
BUT, C4rl basically held left, at best tied there. And, his direct opponent spent 40k mass to rush out a novax, around the same time as my ML. And that novax killed a ton and helped win the game for them. If you stalemate your opponent in land, but the opponent builds a novax, you probably didn't have a great game! That said, he was against 2 acus for a while, and Freedom's was super upgraded.
Generally though, yeah, shouldn't gripe during the game! Just take the L and move on. Was just tough because I felt I put everyone in a great position to win, throughout. And I don't like air :D.
@@samasin5565 Constructive criticism is fine. Being overly negative isn't. The difference between the 2 can be in the wording of the message.
I think that all you need to do is to word your comments better (more positively, more positive spin) in the future in order to become the sort of player that's a pleasure to play with.
Stux here, and yes, the pressure from Carlitos plus the unexpected double spider from dark grey and sasin earlier on, catching me with my pants down making satellites made it so that an SMD just wasn't in the cards. Also, if you're wondering, I knew the nuke was coming for a long time and didn't bother dodging it because my eco was kinda better off in someone else's hands anyway. My position left me holding the line indefinitely, and not much else.
@@lint8391 I think you're overplaying slightly how negative I was, but still fair enough, worth trying to avoid it.
Gyle, have you considered releasing videos as premiers? This would allow viewers to watch the game together via the chat feature, perhaps taking sides rooting for different teams or picking out plays and making theories.
Also, premiers do not show how long the video is, which will lend an air of mystery and tension similar to your attempts a few years ago by having video down time so as not to spoil the ending.
Great idea
Surprised he still hasn't done this.
Yes!
Bump 😉
Terrible idea, please don't do that. All premiers do is clutter up peoples sub boxes with stuff they can't actually watch.
56:20 If you want to know why, at 55:00 you can see that the novax is firing at the SMD.
"That would be my manouver, but I am of course a natural coward." A man of the people Gyle, forever relatable.
that megalith micro made me cry
15:31 There was a game Gyle cast on a custom map where the player thought running into the water would save him, but it was too shallow to help, and that water looks really shallow (but apparently isn't). I'm surprised Gyle doesn't focus in on the com going red.
Considering how outnumbered he's been, CubeMD did pretty well.
43:50 There was a fatboy duel in the top left corner that drew Sassin's attention and air cover.
What an absolut beast of a game and cast. Great work!
1:00:57 "Team kept bitching" I mean it was his choice. Maximus only suggested to strat the smd and pinged his strats once. Sometimes the sheelds are stronger than you think and with all that AA its hard.
Well Gyle... I've waited 10 months not to watch your videos until I was next badly poorly so here i am with Gout, possible 7 days off and it's time to watch 10 months worth!
That "Not impressed." at 1:00:50 , hahahah!
you can check share conditions on the learderboard if you hover over the little round S thing
Nice cast, ty Gyle!
Quite entertaining, both the game and the cast!
1:05:15 Can we take a moment to appreciate the amount of T3 mobile shields hugging that fatboy?
I think what sealed that game was when the top team won the naval battle on the right. Instead of contesting, the bottom team pulled back to a sensible and defensible position, instead of wasting any further resources on a lost cause. Worse, the top team couldn't even conquer the territory they won for reclaim or mexes.
It's a case of knowing when to cut your losses, I thin. A whole bunch of other stuff was going on that I couldn't keep track of, but I think that was part of it.
58:30 the Mega might have counted as partly submerged.
About the Megalith that didn't get shot by the Battleship. There was a mechanic in the game at some point in the original game(s) where units partially submerged in the water counted as underwater, making them untargetable by anything but torpedoes. But I'm not sure if that mechanic still exists in FAF....
Thanks for the cast Gyle!
Mannnnnnnnn, gyle only ever casts games where I'm half asleep and play like my brain is missing a cortex lmao
edit: actually it wasn't too bad, I just didn't get to do anything spectacular.
Which player were you? (if you feel comfortable sharing)
@@henryward5457 stuxnet lol
@@jebrooks Don't worry, your commentary later was funny lol. Hope you enjoyed your 'borger'. :D
@@ArawnOfAnnwn
So frustrating when people built hordes of powerful units and then don't send them in, and just leave them hanging around missing the opportunity, getting picked off by air. And worse, when people build experimentals and hordes of units, but not a single anti-air unit to accompany them. Instead they rely on their air player to use their air force to defend their units, which literally NEVER HAPPENS!
I maintain that the single thing you could do to make a team stronger, is to have one member of the team dedicated entirely to spectating and communicating with allies.
41:34 "He needs to be put out of his misery" LMAO
Felt bad for Gamer9xxx. He had timed that ML rear attack so well. Must have been gutted when it stalled underwater.
What a turnaround... Fun game and congrats to the winners!
Sasin ctrl+K'd, but the Megalith was in the water, and it has NASTY torpedoes, so it didn't need to ground fire, you can see how it chews through the support commanders.
Gyle your a living legend, love the vids
9:17 Obligatory reminder to please go back to income, rather than leave it on reclaim -- especially on a map where you just discussed how little reclaim there is.
They oughta call this map "Knife Fight"
59:50 😂😂😂😂😂
I think I've literally never bee n cast in a win :D.
I don't know how you lost? You had the better eco to begin with, you landed a nuke, took out a player, far better air game, repelled every exp with basically unlimited reclaim to follow, even won navy on the side.. I am truly amazed. But you did play very well imo 😎🤕🥵
@@onkeldunkel665 Cos he mostly kept his air force in defense rather than using it for offense. Tbf he can't see the map as much as spectators like us can.
I haven't played SupCom, what do the numbers in the upper right mean? I know about mass and energy but not much more than that
right next to the name is kill loss ratio and the far right is total mass
All Pink had to do was building a few Ahwassa Bombers and end the game..
i bet for team 2 myself, but lets see
Eww, Sasin turned so salty towards the end. I really liked his attitude in the beginning, but he's really gotten himself tilted big time. Hasn't bothered scooping up the mass fields, didn't rebuild Mass Extractors. Even if he himself couldn't use the mass in the end, after his build capacity was wiped, the others could still pump out units with overflow.
For 900 ranking, CybranCommander did a good job tho.
When games go this long, even the best players get a bit tired and cranky.
Whats with people sending out experimental without any mobile AA, was painful to watch gamer repeat it. A few flak and a few T3 AA would have gone a very long way helping those megalith
That's something I've noticed in general - a lot of ground main players do not build any AA units at all and count on Air focus players to defend them, which often ends up with them losing a ton because air players is hitting enemy air player's main air group and leftovers are left vs no AA at all.
@@dracoknight9066 Yeah completely agree, people seem to think having an air player means not having to think about air at all....
I have seen teams lose air and not even build sams then 10 mins later rage at their air player because they are being bombed.
The battleships in late game is a good choice for pink since they're only countered by air force whereas they have air superiority. Also they give some good anti enemy ground experimental coverage, meaning they make pink's base significantly harder to attack. Yes, this might push the enemy into more nukes and artillery, but pink has shown capable of sniping those and that would leave the enemy weak to counter offenses by experimentals.
Pink's air superiority is the main issue why it wouldn't have been a good choice for other team, even though denying those resources and the pressure on Pink's ally would have given them more of an advantage than what pink is gaining from it now.
58:25 I bet the Megalith is far enough out to count as "underwater" and so not a valid target for the battleships.
11:17 - what? Since when does Mantis has engi suite?
Since original SupCom.
They don't have engi suite they just have assist and repair. Aeon Harbingers have the same thing.
This is the type of game where you build mavor >.>
48:48 Oof, too many of the same approach in the same place. I predict those resources that went into the megas instead of ASFs is going to lose the game, since the megas didn't get enough done and well get "scoopy scoopied" by the other teeam.
Sasin had air dominance for most of that game, but did nothing with it. No gunship plays, no strat bomber runs until too late, and then badly executed... really wasted a major advantage
Gamer9 pathing away from his engulfed team mate who is about to be over-run is peak average joe stuff.
Nice
Comment to appease the algorithm gods
Did light blue do anything? Barely had any units. He just sat there and base built. Didn't even make any T3 arty. Utterly useless, I'd of told him either make yourself useful or transfer your stuff to someone else.
I noticed that as well
Haven't watched the video, don't know the teams, but I'm gonna bet team 1, let's see how it goes.
I'll take team 2 then, let's go!
Ill take that action on team one
i go with team 2, the colors are a bit sus on team 1
@@nickcrispino6575 That was the wrong pick sadly !
I always pick the team with the more UEF. That's just basic principle.
When did they change it so nukes could hit shields and didnt just blow in the sky above them?
Since forever ago? Idk, shields have never protected from nukes landing afaik.
Sasin was the worst but highest rank. He played like a noob that couldn't even turtle properly. At least the other low ranks could turtle and came through at the end.
I wonder if Maximus' burnt corpse feels carried Sasin?
Not very good players...I mean >.> yeah
✨ "Promo SM"
Putin is global ranked 2257, but Zelensky is only 1787.
Might be just me, but I think Putin will defeat Ukraine.
Don't worry, Biden will send another $10 billion to Ukraine to boost Zelensky's GR to 2170. That way, it'll help prolong the horror and Old Joe will continue to get his 10% until Bad Orange Man takes office.
First comment, 3rd view. You are welcome. :D
This game needlessly requires too much micro and apm. It ends up just being a zerg rush apm test. RTS is more like RTTactics the only strategy is paper rock scissors and spinning plates.
would this game be better if there were no interceptors? boring how air is just spam
Boring game
Man, wtf is wrong with the map gen? This map is more like 10x10 km, why is it so tiny?! 20 km map means 20 KM!!
gamer throwing away 4 megas was infuriating