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Rest in Peace is also a replacement effect. That "instead" part shuts off any random dies triggers as well. Its practically half a Hushbringer. Such absolute gas
Noticed it wasn't mentioned in the video, but Soul-Guide Lantern says "...each opponent's graveyard." making it a great choice in Commander decks. I'd also like to point out that Extirpate (not Expirtate) says "nonland" while Surgical Extraction says "nonbasic land" which means Surgical Extraction can hit Valakut, Bojuka Bog, etc.
Actually both of them says "the same". Extirpate: Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card. Surgical: Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card
Grafdiggers cage should be lower. It's just static ability. Tormod and relic you can like dangle it over the head of opp as to when you'll crack them Also hallowed burial
@@NikachuMTG Imo Tormod's Crypt should be much higher as the card has no tempo loss and also empowers Karn, The Great Creator to act as a graveyard hoser as well as an artifact hoser. Also I think Cling to Dust should be considered as one of the better answers to graveyard threats as well. it's versatile and also recursive in grindy games. One other potential card you could consider is Klothys, God of Destiny, as it is kind of similar to Scavenging Ooze. Containment Priest also exists, but it is kind of only good in D&T builds, so it's probably too conditional for this list. Kaya's Guile is a decent honorable mention as well, though as of right now Orzhov isn't a very popular color pairing.
I actually missed Cling to Dust when making the list. It definitely deserved to be included. I tried to make the list full of general graveyard hate cards which is why General Kudro or Klothys aren’t included; but maybe for another video.
Ok serious question I'm not sure this is the best place to ask but for Jund do y'all recommend 2 or 4 blackcleave cliffs. Generally when I see lists I typically see two to four I'm leaning towards two because isn't it only good early game?
It’s only good early game but it doesn’t cost to life to play it. Right now damage comes at a high cost vs prowess and death’s shadow decks, particularly turning on Scourge of the Skyclaves. Honestly I don’t know in what situations you want 2, 3, or 4 but I’m sure there is a good reason why they switch numbers pending the meta.
An amazing card but it wasn’t general enough of a card to include on the list. I might make a follow up video going over great narrow cards like Klothys and General Kudro.
Was at regionals, had a guy try Graffing my Living end deck. This was a couple years back. He was not happy to say the least. He was playing Tron. Kept recurring my Fulminator mages and blowing his shit up. hahahahaha
We need all of them in Arena. I need a whole deck of grave hate cards 🤣almost every deck plays with grave now... and Grafdigger can be safely maindecked 😤 Well we already have the best ones so 😌
Curious question: How come Withered Wretch wasn't included in the list? That card is giving off Scooze vibes there. Heck, it's been around even before Scooze.
Withered Wretch a much worse Scavenging Ooze. Harder Mana cost, doesn't gain life, doesn't grow. It's not included in the list because no one plays that card for the above reasons. All cards included in this list see Modern play.
@@NikachuMTG You do have a point in the card being a worse Scavenging Ooze. Then again, it was the first version of Scooze ever printed during it's time. Yes, Withered Wretch doesn't have the extra perks included with its ability, but I think it still deserves a spot on the list (perhaps slightly higher than Yixlid Jailer) due to the fact that unlike Scavenging Ooze, Withered Wretch's ability isn't bound to a specific type of mana (which is why I think Scooze's designers added those perks in the first place to compensate). And yes, it may be harder to cast since it has BB as its cost, but as long as a black deck has sufficient mana fixing, it can enter the battlefield without much of a fuss. Once it's down on the field, you can use any type of mana to activate it.
I see what you mean, but there’s a lot of graveyard hate cards out there; this list just names the ones that see play. There’s definitely upside to Withered Witch but it just needs to see results before I recommend it.
Fair enough. It's just disappointing that nobody looks at this card as a viable graveyard hate option. I still think that Withered Wretch is a sleeper graveyard hate card better than Wheel of Sun and Moon and Yixlid Jailer (though I'll admit that the latter stops the graveyard in some fashion, even if the Jailer does not fully eliminate the graveyard altogether).
No containment priest? Wouldn't put it too high and not full on gy hate but definitely worth a mention in my opinion, especially with D&T lists starting to do well atm.
Pretty low. Maybe 10-12. It has its place but it’s only better than Grafdigger’s cage when you want to stop artifacts from entering the battlefield from the library
I’m also a burn player and dredge for me goes down to 1) when do I slam down Rest In Peace 2) if in game 1 or I don’t Rip RIP it comes down to how many creeping chills they dredge. If they get 1 it’s usually fine but 2 they slow me down just enough to swarm me. Any more than that it’s just miserable.
@@NG-NeutralGood Yeah pretty much same here . Creeping chill is a bastard of a card . I hate to see the damn thing as much as they hate to see Boros charm I think lol .
IMHO Extirpate is more an anti combo card than a real grave hate, using a thoughtsieze to get a combo piece from the opponent to the grave and then extirpating it usually does the game
@@NikachuMTG well it’s a crazy time .. wizards is bombarded us with product and just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna stop . Zendikar rising was not very good but that’s just my opinion . Over hyped commander cards .. all kinds of nonsense ... Look forward to more vids from ya
Hate to be that guy but Cling to Dust is gas.
I totally missed this. Deserves to be in the top 10!
@@NikachuMTG is this sarcasm or do you mean it? I'm new to modern
@@upperplus7953 He is serious, it is repeatable graveyard hate that replaces itself upon first cast and gets you card advantage later in the game.
@@NikachuMTG honestly shocked you missed it. I love that card as a one of
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That guy in the comment section saying "What about wheel of sun & moon?" is me. Thanks for the shout out haha
Dredge is able to overcome every single grave hate card.
Dredge is love, Dredge is life!
Dredge dredge dredge dredge!!! For what is dead may never die
never rest in peace #punIntended LoL
Rest in Peace is also a replacement effect. That "instead" part shuts off any random dies triggers as well. Its practically half a Hushbringer. Such absolute gas
Noticed it wasn't mentioned in the video, but Soul-Guide Lantern says "...each opponent's graveyard." making it a great choice in Commander decks.
I'd also like to point out that Extirpate (not Expirtate) says "nonland" while Surgical Extraction says "nonbasic land" which means Surgical Extraction can hit Valakut, Bojuka Bog, etc.
+ on the 1st one
- on the 2nd:
Surgical is literally Extirpate without Splitsecond but with Phyrexian Mana
Actually both of them says "the same". Extirpate: Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card. Surgical: Choose target card in a graveyard other than a basic land card
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Please do a planeswalker hate video, we Need It so much!!!
I always look forward to this type of content. Thank you so much!!!
You’re welcome!
4:40 could be put in a lot of decks.
You say as you also mention that the sun moon card isn’t good because it’s narrow
The extirpate bit on amulet Titan had me howling 🤣
Tormod's crypt is pretty good. In exchange for being a one time use it also costs 0
Grafdiggers cage should be lower. It's just static ability. Tormod and relic you can like dangle it over the head of opp as to when you'll crack them
Also hallowed burial
its debateable. Cage dangles in front of them until they can deal with it and is playable vs other powerful combo decks
@@NikachuMTG Imo Tormod's Crypt should be much higher as the card has no tempo loss and also empowers Karn, The Great Creator to act as a graveyard hoser as well as an artifact hoser. Also I think Cling to Dust should be considered as one of the better answers to graveyard threats as well. it's versatile and also recursive in grindy games. One other potential card you could consider is Klothys, God of Destiny, as it is kind of similar to Scavenging Ooze. Containment Priest also exists, but it is kind of only good in D&T builds, so it's probably too conditional for this list. Kaya's Guile is a decent honorable mention as well, though as of right now Orzhov isn't a very popular color pairing.
I actually missed Cling to Dust when making the list. It definitely deserved to be included. I tried to make the list full of general graveyard hate cards which is why General Kudro or Klothys aren’t included; but maybe for another video.
Grafdiggers cage dabs in face of leyline of sanctity
Also wheel of sun and moon dunks on mill
You know, I said that in my filming then it appears I accidentally edited it out.
when you make a video of the best cards against red in modern
That one is next!
21:33 When mill players accidently mill Gaea's blessing
21:34 burn players when they dumped their whole hand and you resolve weather the storm
Love the videos very high quality great lighting keep it up !!
Noooooooo!
Alternative title: Top 16 cards that will break a land down under
Well done video. Been a long time, my friend.
Ok serious question I'm not sure this is the best place to ask but for Jund do y'all recommend 2 or 4 blackcleave cliffs. Generally when I see lists I typically see two to four I'm leaning towards two because isn't it only good early game?
It’s only good early game but it doesn’t cost to life to play it. Right now damage comes at a high cost vs prowess and death’s shadow decks, particularly turning on Scourge of the Skyclaves. Honestly I don’t know in what situations you want 2, 3, or 4 but I’m sure there is a good reason why they switch numbers pending the meta.
I play four in jund now for reasons he said above
How about Klothys?
An amazing card but it wasn’t general enough of a card to include on the list. I might make a follow up video going over great narrow cards like Klothys and General Kudro.
Wonderful.
But also: it's "Extirpate" not "Exportate" *Hermione Granger intensifies* 😂😂😂
I agree Nihil seems better than Soul guide but it doenst work if they play white Leyline right ? so Soul guide might a better choice
It does play around Leyline, but I would still say Nihil Spellbomb is better by default. Opponent needs to prove they have Leyline first.
Can Extirpate be used on Snow Covered Lands or on any other land type that is NOT "Basic"?
Any land type that is not basic. So no basic lands or snow basic lands. Everything else is good.
Was at regionals, had a guy try Graffing my Living end deck. This was a couple years back. He was not happy to say the least. He was playing Tron. Kept recurring my Fulminator mages and blowing his shit up. hahahahaha
Sometimes you have to learn the hard way
We need all of them in Arena. I need a whole deck of grave hate cards 🤣almost every deck plays with grave now... and Grafdigger can be safely maindecked 😤
Well we already have the best ones so 😌
Curious question: How come Withered Wretch wasn't included in the list? That card is giving off Scooze vibes there. Heck, it's been around even before Scooze.
Withered Wretch a much worse Scavenging Ooze. Harder Mana cost, doesn't gain life, doesn't grow. It's not included in the list because no one plays that card for the above reasons. All cards included in this list see Modern play.
@@NikachuMTG You do have a point in the card being a worse Scavenging Ooze. Then again, it was the first version of Scooze ever printed during it's time.
Yes, Withered Wretch doesn't have the extra perks included with its ability, but I think it still deserves a spot on the list (perhaps slightly higher than Yixlid Jailer) due to the fact that unlike Scavenging Ooze, Withered Wretch's ability isn't bound to a specific type of mana (which is why I think Scooze's designers added those perks in the first place to compensate).
And yes, it may be harder to cast since it has BB as its cost, but as long as a black deck has sufficient mana fixing, it can enter the battlefield without much of a fuss. Once it's down on the field, you can use any type of mana to activate it.
I see what you mean, but there’s a lot of graveyard hate cards out there; this list just names the ones that see play. There’s definitely upside to Withered Witch but it just needs to see results before I recommend it.
Fair enough. It's just disappointing that nobody looks at this card as a viable graveyard hate option. I still think that Withered Wretch is a sleeper graveyard hate card better than Wheel of Sun and Moon and Yixlid Jailer (though I'll admit that the latter stops the graveyard in some fashion, even if the Jailer does not fully eliminate the graveyard altogether).
No containment priest? Wouldn't put it too high and not full on gy hate but definitely worth a mention in my opinion, especially with D&T lists starting to do well atm.
It might be worth a spot in a different kind of video.
Bro I really cannot believe Nikachu says once and again expertate, I mean EXPERTATE, and he is already reading the card that is called EXTIRPATE xD
Great content!
Thanks!
Now that Weathered Runestone has been revealed in Kaldheim, where do you think it would sit in the rankings?
Pretty low. Maybe 10-12. It has its place but it’s only better than Grafdigger’s cage when you want to stop artifacts from entering the battlefield from the library
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As a dredge player, can your next video be all the ways to beat Merfolk?
Ensnaring Bridge x 10
Knew rest in piece was gonna be number 1
rest in peace all graveyard not opponents
I run modern Boros burn and 75 % I will out race dredge and win . If they get a killer opening hand I loose a lot though lol
I’m also a burn player and dredge for me goes down to
1) when do I slam down Rest In Peace
2) if in game 1 or I don’t Rip RIP it comes down to how many creeping chills they dredge. If they get 1 it’s usually fine but 2 they slow me down just enough to swarm me. Any more than that it’s just miserable.
@@NG-NeutralGood Yeah pretty much same here . Creeping chill is a bastard of a card . I hate to see the damn thing as much as they hate to see Boros charm I think lol .
IMHO Extirpate is more an anti combo card than a real grave hate, using a thoughtsieze to get a combo piece from the opponent to the grave and then extirpating it usually does the game
i have nothing but Cremate, what do i do?
Buy better hate cards. Some of these are really budget.
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whats your kittys name?
Chubby meatball and idk Nickachu will probably show up.
The one in the video is Salud
Cling to Dust should have made the list
Agreed
Scarab Feast as a budget option that can be cycled away?
That’s actually pretty good! But you still should play Cling to Dust.
Scrabbling Claws
Rakdos Charm
Is your cat a Ragdoll or Birma?
Looks like mine 😍
I think a Birma. Definitely not a ragdoll.
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Where ya been man ? Not much content lately ??
gonna bring it back
btw, I still make regular content for my Nikachu MTG Streams gameplay channel. maybe too much content...
@@NikachuMTG well it’s a crazy time .. wizards is bombarded us with product and just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna stop . Zendikar rising was not very good but that’s just my opinion . Over hyped commander cards .. all kinds of nonsense ... Look forward to more vids from ya
I thought you hated cage?
For the most part I don’t like it for Merfolk’s needs, I prefer Relic. But Cage is a more powerful and impactful card than Relic.
Macabre is pronounced: muh-cob.
Stop telling people about cage and Living End
More modern meta
You missed a chance to call this video top 69
Modern is dead commander is best.
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As a storm player, I formally request you to delete this video
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