Best comparison ever!! And i agree, soundwise Behringer did a massive goood job! MORE ACID FOR EVERYBODY!!!! Subscribed at your channel, keep on with this vids!
"soundwise Behringer did a massive goood job!" pls what? They only copied the whole engine...it sounds like it should when someone copy a machine one to one. Nothing special. Hope they pay roland for the pioneerwork
@@brutforce17 You don't really know what You are talking about dude. The "engine" as You call the chip board, it's not even a Roland project anymore, it's an open music labs Project. Please, don't LMGTFY next time before yell at something.
Cool trick I read on a forum: generate a random pattern by pressing Clear + Start/Stop. If you like the rhythm in the random pattern but not the notes, set it to Pitch mode, and tap in only the pitches you want to kind of force it into a scale. If you like the notes it generated, but not the rhythm, set it to Time Mode and give it the timing you want. This is a great way to get a lot of patterns really quickly while not ending up with useless random mush. It's also something that's only possible if time and pitch are separate :)
That's basically now I used to program the old Propellerhead Rebirth. A lot of people hate on the sequencer but with that kind of pseudo randomization, you can go beyond what our lazy brains will come up with on their own.
@theinvisibleman I think for the software editor this should be easy enough to do, for the hardware I already think there are too many multi-button combinations and not enough labels. Still, it probably wouldn't cost extra...
I just bought a completely unused second-hand td-3, for about 70 euros. Was looking for a comparison to the original 303 and man, Behringer NAILED it. Roland were fools to not do this themselves. Could have let Uli produce it and ask 500 for it, it would sell like hotcakes. Great job Behringer!
Unless you have replaced all the capacitors and transitors in the original which are almost 40 years old, out of spec and probably leaking, it will never sound the same as the newer clones. This is were everyone gets it wrong with comparisons saying it doesn't sound quite like the original. Even 2 original 303's won't sound exactly the same. And after all your eq carving and brickwall decimation in todays dreadful audio mastering processes the original is not even gonna sound like the original. Also at least behringer listens to its customers unlike over priced Roland who didn't even make their new clones analogue!
This is an excellent comparison! I've been right on the edge of buying a real 303 so many times over the years, but I always ended up deciding that I couldn't justify spending that much money for one specific sound when I could get so close to it with my other synths. Not having access to that exact sound always haunted me though, and I was surprised when Behringer came out with such an accurate clone. I'm not surprised they made one, but it's so good! One of my favorite things about the original 303 is how it sounds when it bubbles beneath a very low and restrained filter cutoff, but my TD-3 was a little too bright and didn't go all the way there until I adjusted the internal filter cutoff trimpot. Now it's absolutely perfect IMHO YMMV
I've had the TD-3 for a week or two, and have to say that I quite enjoy the archaic, original-style sequencer. Sure, it's insane, but A) it adds a fun challenge, B) because of the fact that it's so difficult to control, it opens the door wide open to happy accidents, C) most of the time the patterns end up more interesting then if there were a straight-forward sequencing method, and D) I get to feel a sense of comradery with our acid forefathers who prevailed in creating magic with the same sequencer
Actually far cheaper. A 303 in 1983 cost $395. Adjusted for inflation that's $1,025 in 2020 dollars. Maybe buying a used one from second hand shops in the late 80s when acid started coming around it would be around $150!
One of my past colleagues sold an original TB-303 for £10 in a garage sale. She thought it was just a teenagers beatbox toy !!! Behringer did a fantastic job matching those tones, and you did a great job demonstrating them.
The original Roland has that extra presence *because* it is noisier. The good news is that with the Behringer's aux input, you can mix a little bit of noise in with the osc to give the filters and distortion more to bite onto.
Thanks for the excellent video! I noticed the bottom end on the behringer still sounds quite hefty as you increase the resonance, whereas the original 303 loses some weight and sounds more thin. If my ears aren’t deceiving me, that’s a big selling point and I’m that much closer to buying one.
Been an owner of a TB-303 for around 20 years now and a TD-3 owner for a month. Haven't had my hands on my real 303 in quite a while because it's sent out for repairs and modification, but from what I heard on my TD-3 and in your comparison video, it was a no-brainer to pre-order the TD-3 after the presentation. It's getting closer than any other synth and softsynth I tried. If Robin really starts doing Devil Fish modifications for the TD-3, I might go for another one and get that one modified as well (if I can afford another Devil Fish until then). Thanks for taking the time to do the video and have a merry christmas and a happy new year.
Christian Gutsch thanks for the nice comment. After all these years someone has nailed it for a stupidly low price. I had no idea Behringer were going to clone this. Seems obvious now.
I closed my eyes and could not tell the difference. If there is one, is it worth the other £1900? I'll settle for the TD3 and spend the change on some other gear.
great job, mate. very strong face-to-face comparison. and i am pretty astonished by the sound. this is the first real case for me not recognizing any difference in a blindtest
I have both two, and the TB03, and I think Behringer have done a great job. It's great fun and is absolutely bang on sonically, in my opinion. Brining acid back to the masses. As it should be.
The Roland TB-303 sometimes sounds a little more delicate and defined in low- and topend especially the resonant filter "chirping". It has a little more extra at some points in this video. Of course not even two TB-303 would sound the same. But all in all the TD-3 sounds exceptionally good especially considering its price. What a bargain! It's an absolute no-brainer. I'm loving mine as well :)
I must say, I prefer the original sequencer. People say it's hard to learn, but I was shocked by how easy it was after only an hour or two of toying with it. I love the original layout, and I find it much easier to be creative on the little crusty button pad/pitch mode modifiers than a normal synth sequencer.
The problem for me is my 303 has the quicksilver cpu mod. This means you can sequence your pattern with the sequencer running. It's almost impossible to go back after using that.
4:26 As far as i have noticed the sequencer piano roll editor in the synthtribe app DOES work in real time, you can move things and then just send the pattern while it is playing.
Thank you! I've been waiting from day 1 for someone to do a side by side with a 303 that was more of a screamer. Further proof of what I was saying since day 1, that really Behringer nailed the sound, they just set that VCF offset trimpot a bit high. I've been saying if you put it next to a screamer 303, you might find it matches, or that the 303 even ends up being brighter. Here you've demonstrated that. You mention having another darker 303. If you get that one fixed, you should record the same sequence and knob adjustments 4x: once on the screamer 303, once on this TD-3, once on the darker 303, and then once on this TD-3 but with the trimpot adjusted darker. Post it on an audio forum thread about the TD-3, but don't tell anyone which is which. Watch as everyone claims the two darker ones are the two 303s. 😂
So true, exactly my impression. Almost too good of a clone, I would easily have forgiven them for not cloning the sequencer so well. And the genuine plasticky feel... tolerable but I wouldn't have insisted on it either. Then again, it likely contributes to the amazingly low price. Honestly, can't really fault Behringer for it, we asked for a clone and that is what we got. Plus the almost mandatory distortion unit, a cleaner signal and full MIDI/USB controllability of sequencing parameters (not knobs though, which would required motorized dials for its pot based voltage control).
great comparison! I can hear the behringer have a somewhat "compressed" sound, and the OG is more dynamic and lively...you can hear this at 2:30 , 3:00 and 4:01 , but at this price it´s a bargain
If you can honestly hear those ever so slight differences... God bless you! I can't. Even if you were to be correct, in mix down or in mastering, you can fix those slight differences. That's really knit-picking. To me, both sounded just about dead even!
@@dez1989 listen to how the resonance sings a little longer and more dynamically on the original, I think that's what he's referring to. The resonance spikes are just a little more louder and swell up and down more in volume than the resonance of the TD-3, which kind of feels like it reaches a volume max on it's resonance spikes. See if you can hear it ^^ This isn't even to say that one is better than the other, but it's more of a "personality of the synth" thing. And it's also something you'd be hard pressed to fix during the mixing stages (getting one synths resonance to sing/move more dynamically in the same way as the 303) You could theoretically make the 303 sound like the TB-3 with some multiband compression or something of the like, but it also probably wouldnt really be the same, nor would it be too practical. It's just something to hear and think about, for the most part.
That was brilliant, all that fun for 100 , works amazing with plugins in Ableton too, some excellent accidental sounds. I'm definitely getting another. We are living in a great time for being able to have things we couldn't usually afford :)
Never thought I would say this but in the very first comparison of the video the TD-3 sounds better, more rounded like I expect a 303 to sound. It's quite amazing for this price and even at any price.
@@Riktenstein Mr. Bezos wrote an e-mail yesterday. The yellow smiley is going to arrive in about 2 Days. :) Now I need some drums, any suggestions? RD-6 maybe? The casings would look nice side by side... ;) Greets from Europe. :/
@@masu5000 I also bought the yellow smiley. It had to be done. I owned a tr606 back in the day. Great hi-hats but a disappointing bass kick. Though it really depends on what music you want to create. The Roland tr6s looks like it covers a lot of ground, but it's not analogue. I don't mean that in a negative way as I have no issue with digital.
great comparison. I think that the hi-end of the original sounds very aliased and _90s._ The TD3 has a more resonant low-mid range boost to it than the original, BUT the TB-303 seems to have a slightly more subby low end instead.
Absolut best comparison! Simply no differences. i guess if you´ll use an oszilloscope you might discover some but for it´s the best clone. Uli made a good job on this!
I have 2 modded TD3s complete with the essential 303 mods from the now infamous Maffez guide(I presume you are aware of this guide) but I have to say this demonstration reset my ear to how close the factory TD is to the TB , nevertheless I am delighted with how my modded 2 sound now.
I'm an acid head, this is by far the best clone vs 303 comparison ever ; you match the paramteres perfectly ; I would love to here your music !! Thank you !! The TT can by moded so the bottom end become strongest even with the resonnance cranked up ; Now what I think about the TD3 ? I don't need another clone XD despites I use a moded X0XB0X :) Cheers from France
@@Riktenstein I have the Avalon Bassline, the Behringer TD-3, and the Roland TB-03. The Avalon is easily and by far the best, in everything but price. It is better than the TB-303 as it is closer to a Devilfish modded 303. (I would never bother with an original at this point, even NOT considering the absurd price). If you have not checked it out yet, Behringer has made the TD-3-MO, which can do a lot of what the Avalon (and Devilfish) can do- in particular the sub-oscillator, and it is even more unbeatable for the price than the original TD-3. (It retails for about $200- which considering all of what it can do, I think it the better deal for the money). I plan on picking one up soon, but FOUR 303 clones?! THREE is fine, but four is getting crazy. 😆
Great comparison thank you. Only listening on mobile but I thought the TD3 had a slightly nasal quality when the Res was cranked on the sawtooth. Cannot wait to get my hands on one though.
I just bought a TD-3 an hour ago... crazy that it's only $150! Pair it with my 4 year old TB-3 for some acid duets... though the TB-3 will still be one of the easiest acid boxes to program patterns on...
I just bought two of the red ones -- and a 12 channel mixer. The drum machine I'm using is the Arturia DrumBrute Impact along with the Korg VolcaBeat and a real drum kit. Shit is going to get real ... real soon.
I owned no equipment 6 weeks ago. I just bought the yellow smiley version of the TD3 . I bought the Behringer RD-8 this week also. I bought the behringer mixer s1204usb I also bought the looper45000 and kick pedal thats EHX that makes that looper and I have the line 6 green box dL4. I also bought the Arturia mini lab. None of this is a joke I bought all that stuff. And I plan on enjoying my fecking life for a change. Oh I also bought the volca beats.
@@ExtremePainGames That's going to be a mighty fine set up. I have the original 808 and the RD is more fun. Also the Volca bass sounds lovely. I had a video on that. th-cam.com/video/8FNtd6WuRPU/w-d-xo.html
I can't tell the difference and if you're baking this into a track, the listener won't be able to either. The price point is perfect and it's so great to be able to afford some analog acid.
It's the sequencer that makes the 303 sound so special! The TD sounds amazing considering how cheap it is, I've got a TT303 but still thinking about grabbing a TD when they're back in stock.
I thought the TT was great for the squelch, but I like a screamer and it didn't cut it next to my original 303. For the price the TD is a must. They have an ACID yellow one in the pipeline.
Yeah I noticed the yellow one, very nice. It’s been a long time since I had a ‘real’ TB303 so can’t do the direct comparison myself but you’ve shown just how close the TD is.
Well, shortly after borrowing my mates TB303 I decided I’d get my own, have owned a few over the years but need acid free for some time. Shelled out an embarrassing amount of money for one, that to be fair is in excellent condition. Two weeks later, Behringer do this to me ! Live and learns 🤣☹️😂
I honestly thought the Behringer sounded better in some settings, but for the most part, they seem SPOT on! 😳 And as with most clones, the original really sounds just that 5-10% better overall, so now everyone just has to decide how important that 5-10% is to them 🤷🏼♂️😬 lol Great comparison! Thanks for posting!
@ROOTSCONTRA Calm down. You don't have to exaggerate that much to get your point across. You are seriously saying that the 303, the bass line machine that is one of the most influential devices in the history of dance music and that has appeared on some of the best tracks of the acid house era (DJ Pierre's stuff, Tyree, etc etc), is "the worst sounding machine on the face of the earth"? Compared to what and why? How about the 808? I guess that is too? I get where you're coming from in terms of the ubiquity of it and people making unoriginal music with either, but I think you're just being contrary for the sake of it. Just because it's popular doesn't make it shit.
@ROOTSCONTRA I thought we might be able to have a respectful, if animated, chat here, but you're being a total prick now, so bye bye. Hope you manage to deal with your issues at some point.
@Riktenstein Great Vid. I'm thinking of buying 2 blue ones of the TD-3 or maybe one Blu TD-3 & a Crave or perhaps all 3 ? But i'm kinda hoping Behringer will release there RD 909 soon? But it's been a while since they said it should be avail end of last year September but no sign of it online anywhere or any news for pre orders!!
Resonance on the original is a bit wilder (slightly more drive/chirpiness), and also filter modulation seems to have a larger range, or the settings weren't matched 100%.
@ROOTSCONTRA dude if you don't like it then don't fucking buy it. If other people like it, they can buy it. It's that simple. I promise gives a shit that you don't like it.
av ci It was just luck. When the pre-ordered came out I ordered one from Thomann when I got to work. 20mins later they were all sold out. I also ordered one from the UK. That will not arrive till mid feb.
@@NeoBechstein what a pain!! I'm not patient, I wonder if they will ever make it available at any time so I can go to the store and buy it today or online. :( I saw one on ebay at 210 euros I might order 100 and start an UG lol
I got lucky, one week before christmas thomann received a batch of blue and red TD-3's and I ordered it right then and received it a week later. Kinda sad for all of those who preordered quite a while ago ahah. I did pay a premium of 260CAD instead of 260 because of the costly thomann shipping.
I got a blue TD-3 yesterday. I am really surprised how good it sounds. I really hope they develop a Devil Fish version at some point. Huge thumbs up for Behringer.
Six months later, on your blue box… Have you figured out how to make that rubbery 303B sound on it yet? And what do you think now that you’ve had it for a while?
@@Zeal808 Bring me some butter! Can you link me your IG… I kept my TD3 + myTT303 together. I am going to modify the TD3 slightly (trim pot) I may make a new metallic case for it
I did have the Red model but I was unhappy with the choice so I later sold it, then the other colours came so I just went managed to buy the Blue model & Amber model with the smiley face. Had a hard time with a lot of UK music stores not selling the TD-3s in all there choice of colours or there out of stock! then its a long wait for the next batch to arrive.
I would like to hear a comparison between the original TB-303 and the TD-3 for the "pow" sound - Square wave, low cutoff, no env mod, no decay, and full resonance and full accent, for a short note. I have only heard this sound in one review, and then the TD-3 couldn't replicate the sound. In my opinion this is THE coolest sound available from the original. I just love it.
i thought i never buy a real 303 because i'm not rich. i bought a td-3 silver, & i even bought 1 yellow td-3 from behringer, unfortunately i wasn't happy with the sound. For example, i love acid techno from the 90's with overdrive effect, and i plugged a Boss Sd-1, which is one of the iconic pedal for this style. (The distortion on the td-3 is great, it is like Boss Sd-1.)I never found the sound that i was looking for, i was suprised and disappointed, especially the behaviours of filters /reso / env mod / decay which don't have the same "richness" like the 303 sound i heard on records. Finally, after some years and thanks to behringer, my motivation was so strong that i managed to save money to buy a real tb303 and i'm very happy now, the behaviour of the sound is a bit different, with more "energy". Believe me the sound is not the same, it has more density on the real one & the knobs are more handy in fact. The real 303 with the Boss Sd-1 is pure joy now. The Td3 from Behringer is not a toy, but, for me, something is missing for sure, it's not an invention from my ears
I'm pretty new to these machines. So the only difference is the sequencer? What's so bad about the behringer td-3 sequencer? Is it better to buy a tb303 for that sequencer?
That was a absolutely great simple video. Thumbs Up! No one need more for an example. The comparison is so nice and sounds fantastic. I think too, behringer do a very good job with TD-3. I have a Original TB-303 in my studio and I don't think you can hear the difference in a full song or live rave. On stage or at the DJ desk, the TB303 would only be something for the eye. The original is simply cult, like the Technics 1210 turntable :-) it is great, but there are equivalent ones. For me is the TD-3 the best clone from the Original. Thanks for this super Video 👍👍
I agree best comparison ever! I have a Bassbot TT-303 never opened v1. Bought it when it first came out years ago, forgot about it. I will do a comparison with my real TB-303 someday, I may just sell the TT-303 and get 2 of these in different colors! Great job for real!
Cheers much appreciated. Personally - I'd say bye bye to the TT303 and get the two different colours. Just remember that from memory the Bass bott is easier to programme. I'm thinking about comparing my 2 original 303s in the same way. The one problem is the accent has stopped working on one of them. Though I could finally clear up once and for all - that two 303s don't sound the same.
@@Riktenstein I also had 2 303's and sold one, yes I agree each one has a unique sound this is because of the components in time they of course alter, the amazingness of analog circuitry my friend but wow your tb-303 has a sharp filter and the TD-3 seems to match perfectly? I saw this video like 5 times and sounds exactly slightly differ in the decay not sure but very little. I have not messed with the bassbot as its never been opened, truth be told I bought it stored it when my wife was diagnosed with a rare rare cancer this is why,it was stored away in the storage (temperature controlled)with other many analogs synths! I just brought them back to my lab 15 synths and many modules. May have to sell them for cancer treatments but tb-303 will stay! Blessings and happy new year buddy!
First clone I’ve heard that I’d be happy with. Unfortunately my desire for that sound has wavered. I’ll pick one up second hand when they’re piss cheap.
i noticed you have the Quicksliver OS in your TB303... that added loads of noise to my 303 - had John remove it and I'm back to the original OS - less noisy but still not clean ;)
I bought my tr606 from Hodges and Johnson in Romford back in 82 for 199 quid. The tb303 was selling for the same price. I didn't get one as the guy told me they were a nightmare to program. I rememberseeing them for 99 quid a few months later. I just paid 90 quid for a brand new td3. I figure i can try to get over the difficulties now , or i can use the software. Either way, the chap saying that they were selling them for 50 quid is about right in my book.
I had both the Deep Bass Nine and the FreeBass 383. While DB9 was a nice bass-synth, it wasn't really a 303-clone at all. But I was quite happy with the FB-383 and used 2 of them for my acid-lines... But today, also the FB-383 seems ridiculous compared to the new clones. TB-03, TD-3 and the ABL-3 (plugin) are all very well done. My favorite is the TD-3, followed by ABL-3 and then on 3rd place the TB-03. So if I choose hardware: I would buy 2 TD-3s for the same price as 1 TB-03.
I prefer the Behringer, however I owned the early Cyclone version. Soon as you dialled in any resonance the bottom end disappeared. Might be different on the new version. For the money though the TD3 is hard to ignore. The yellow one looks very cool too.
I just bought a tb303 I own a td3, Avalon bassline, tt303, and a tb3. The td3 does not sound closer than the Avalon it is that under analysis the square wave sounds off and also the resonance! I tell you the Avalon has this annoying clicking sound sometimes. I guess what pushed me to get a tb303 was the price it was selling at at a secondhand dealer I guess this is what pushed me over the line! I am happy with behringer’ s attempt it is pretty good quality but I find the tb303 will hold it’s value!
The slight difference in sound is comparable to the difference that exists between two TB-303s? And for 150 dollars/euros? My TD3 has been on backorder now for several months - ship date is supposedly Feb 2020. Looking forward to it, and viva Behringer!
Great comparison. Objective thoughts are that the original 303’s filter opened up a little more at the top end (nothing a bit of top end shelving eq couldn’t fix maybe). The original also had a little more punch and there was definitely a bit more ‘funk’ in the timing. It had more bounce. The Behringer faired up very well however, and the differences were pretty small. It will cost you up to another 2 grand to get past those small differences. Now where’s the 909 clone to go with it?!
I’m excited for mine to come tomorrow. The sequencer doesn’t scare me because I am looking for something that’s a little bit different. I invite happy mistakes I could see the sequencer being a pain to make a bassline to an already existing track.
It would be awesome if behringer done a eurorack module of this..... how difficult could it be? Add in a Euro clock pulse in as well as the midi..... I think it would be a winner! 👍
Curious question what labels if any have you released .. and under what aliases that i may know off and are you currently signed with a label ?????????? Or do you mainly self release via bandcamp .. Anything on Vinyl CD ..
A few releases back in the 90s and 2000s. I do some stuff for TV now and again, but my main mortgage payments come from engineering for post production. Now I try to keep music fun.
They sound pretty identical to me, only thing I thought I noticed was the tb303 sounds like it's got a slightly steeper filter, just sounded like it cut more of the mids out quicker when sweeping the cut off. £150 though, insane. That's about the same price as a korg volca.
Best comparison ever!! And i agree, soundwise Behringer did a massive goood job! MORE ACID FOR EVERYBODY!!!! Subscribed at your channel, keep on with this vids!
RobyUan KeRoby thanks much appreciated.
@@Riktenstein Did you see Behringer are bringing the TR 606 Drumatix ?
ThePc Gamer Yeah it looks great. Might get a standing order to Behringer.
"soundwise Behringer did a massive goood job!" pls what? They only copied the whole engine...it sounds like it should when someone copy a machine one to one. Nothing special. Hope they pay roland for the pioneerwork
@@brutforce17 You don't really know what You are talking about dude. The "engine" as You call the chip board, it's not even a Roland project anymore, it's an open music labs Project. Please, don't LMGTFY next time before yell at something.
Cool trick I read on a forum: generate a random pattern by pressing Clear + Start/Stop. If you like the rhythm in the random pattern but not the notes, set it to Pitch mode, and tap in only the pitches you want to kind of force it into a scale. If you like the notes it generated, but not the rhythm, set it to Time Mode and give it the timing you want. This is a great way to get a lot of patterns really quickly while not ending up with useless random mush. It's also something that's only possible if time and pitch are separate :)
That's a great tip - thanks
Wow, thank you!
That's basically now I used to program the old Propellerhead Rebirth. A lot of people hate on the sequencer but with that kind of pseudo randomization, you can go beyond what our lazy brains will come up with on their own.
Thanks! :)
@theinvisibleman I think for the software editor this should be easy enough to do, for the hardware I already think there are too many multi-button combinations and not enough labels. Still, it probably wouldn't cost extra...
"some people swear by it, i only just swear at it" hahahaha
I just bought a completely unused second-hand td-3, for about 70 euros. Was looking for a comparison to the original 303 and man, Behringer NAILED it. Roland were fools to not do this themselves. Could have let Uli produce it and ask 500 for it, it would sell like hotcakes. Great job Behringer!
Unless you have replaced all the capacitors and transitors in the original which are almost 40 years old, out of spec and probably leaking, it will never sound the same as the newer clones. This is were everyone gets it wrong with comparisons saying it doesn't sound quite like the original. Even 2 original 303's won't sound exactly the same. And after all your eq carving and brickwall decimation in todays dreadful audio mastering processes the original is not even gonna sound like the original. Also at least behringer listens to its customers unlike over priced Roland who didn't even make their new clones analogue!
💯Exactly amen 🙌
200 in replacing parts after paying 3000. I love my 100 clone
Leaking transistors ????.... Interesting ;)
@@SeniorCut capacitors read the context lol
Well said
At last a comparison where the levels are right ..thank you
That always bugs me as-well. For info, the TD 3 is a little louder on the output.
@@Riktenstein did you try equalising it to the Roland ? What was the difference? Low in audio quality?
revolt 07 no eq or compression. Both were flat.
This is an excellent comparison! I've been right on the edge of buying a real 303 so many times over the years, but I always ended up deciding that I couldn't justify spending that much money for one specific sound when I could get so close to it with my other synths. Not having access to that exact sound always haunted me though, and I was surprised when Behringer came out with such an accurate clone. I'm not surprised they made one, but it's so good! One of my favorite things about the original 303 is how it sounds when it bubbles beneath a very low and restrained filter cutoff, but my TD-3 was a little too bright and didn't go all the way there until I adjusted the internal filter cutoff trimpot. Now it's absolutely perfect IMHO YMMV
I've had the TD-3 for a week or two, and have to say that I quite enjoy the archaic, original-style sequencer. Sure, it's insane, but A) it adds a fun challenge, B) because of the fact that it's so difficult to control, it opens the door wide open to happy accidents, C) most of the time the patterns end up more interesting then if there were a straight-forward sequencing method, and D) I get to feel a sense of comradery with our acid forefathers who prevailed in creating magic with the same sequencer
finally, 303 costs the same price as it did at the beginning
Actually far cheaper. A 303 in 1983 cost $395. Adjusted for inflation that's $1,025 in 2020 dollars.
Maybe buying a used one from second hand shops in the late 80s when acid started coming around it would be around $150!
Look on amazon 300$
it's actually a lot cheaper.. It sold for 400 new back in the day
They sold the last few off at £50 a piece here in the UK because they couldn’t get rid of them 😆
@@rhiannonstudios That is not correct!
One of my past colleagues sold an original TB-303 for £10 in a garage sale. She thought it was just a teenagers beatbox toy !!!
Behringer did a fantastic job matching those tones, and you did a great job demonstrating them.
The original Roland has that extra presence *because* it is noisier. The good news is that with the Behringer's aux input, you can mix a little bit of noise in with the osc to give the filters and distortion more to bite onto.
hmm might have to try that
Wow, I can't believe how bloody bang-on the TD-3 is!!!!! I was not expecting it to be that close!!! Great comparison video! Thank you.
Thanks for the excellent video! I noticed the bottom end on the behringer still sounds quite hefty as you increase the resonance, whereas the original 303 loses some weight and sounds more thin. If my ears aren’t deceiving me, that’s a big selling point and I’m that much closer to buying one.
I noticed the same thing. in the end it's amazing.
Been an owner of a TB-303 for around 20 years now and a TD-3 owner for a month. Haven't had my hands on my real 303 in quite a while because it's sent out for repairs and modification, but from what I heard on my TD-3 and in your comparison video, it was a no-brainer to pre-order the TD-3 after the presentation. It's getting closer than any other synth and softsynth I tried. If Robin really starts doing Devil Fish modifications for the TD-3, I might go for another one and get that one modified as well (if I can afford another Devil Fish until then). Thanks for taking the time to do the video and have a merry christmas and a happy new year.
Christian Gutsch thanks for the nice comment. After all these years someone has nailed it for a stupidly low price. I had no idea Behringer were going to clone this. Seems obvious now.
I am really happy Behringer is doing a 'galaxy class' attack of the clones. Can't wait to get the 2600.
I closed my eyes and could not tell the difference. If there is one, is it worth the other £1900? I'll settle for the TD3 and spend the change on some other gear.
It's quite a time we now live in, an analog 303 for about 100 quid.
Original 303 has some frequencies more brighter / sharp. Behringer has fatter sound.
You’re being rational though , collectors aren’t rational
@ROOTSCONTRA you arent trying
@ROOTSCONTRA hahaha
great job, mate. very strong face-to-face comparison. and i am pretty astonished by the sound. this is the first real case for me not recognizing any difference in a blindtest
Excellent comparison! I got the TD-3-MO and love it!
I have both two, and the TB03, and I think Behringer have done a great job. It's great fun and is absolutely bang on sonically, in my opinion. Brining acid back to the masses. As it should be.
Couldn't agree more. An analogue 303 for about 100 quid. I've got the yellow one on order.
There's probably as much variation between the units of each model than there is between models.
The Roland TB-303 sometimes sounds a little more delicate and defined in low- and topend especially the resonant filter "chirping".
It has a little more extra at some points in this video. Of course not even two TB-303 would sound the same.
But all in all the TD-3 sounds exceptionally good especially considering its price. What a bargain! It's an absolute no-brainer.
I'm loving mine as well :)
I must say, I prefer the original sequencer. People say it's hard to learn, but I was shocked by how easy it was after only an hour or two of toying with it. I love the original layout, and I find it much easier to be creative on the little crusty button pad/pitch mode modifiers than a normal synth sequencer.
The problem for me is my 303 has the quicksilver cpu mod. This means you can sequence your pattern with the sequencer running. It's almost impossible to go back after using that.
@@Riktenstein I bet Behringer could push that out through a firmware update. Here's to hope.
4:26 As far as i have noticed the sequencer piano roll editor in the synthtribe app DOES work in real time, you can move things and then just send the pattern while it is playing.
It might do now, but it didn’t when I did this video.
This dude on Reddit was like “The TD 3 is a Toy”
So is the 303 my dude. A toy people made records out of
I have two tb 303s and two TD 3s. I jam with them a lot. Anyone claiming that the TB 303 sounds massively different is talking from their arse.
Thank you! I've been waiting from day 1 for someone to do a side by side with a 303 that was more of a screamer. Further proof of what I was saying since day 1, that really Behringer nailed the sound, they just set that VCF offset trimpot a bit high. I've been saying if you put it next to a screamer 303, you might find it matches, or that the 303 even ends up being brighter. Here you've demonstrated that.
You mention having another darker 303. If you get that one fixed, you should record the same sequence and knob adjustments 4x: once on the screamer 303, once on this TD-3, once on the darker 303, and then once on this TD-3 but with the trimpot adjusted darker. Post it on an audio forum thread about the TD-3, but don't tell anyone which is which. Watch as everyone claims the two darker ones are the two 303s. 😂
Also you can have 10 td-3s for the price of one TB303 if your lucky.
So true, exactly my impression. Almost too good of a clone, I would easily have forgiven them for not cloning the sequencer so well. And the genuine plasticky feel... tolerable but I wouldn't have insisted on it either. Then again, it likely contributes to the amazingly low price.
Honestly, can't really fault Behringer for it, we asked for a clone and that is what we got. Plus the almost mandatory distortion unit, a cleaner signal and full MIDI/USB controllability of sequencing parameters (not knobs though, which would required motorized dials for its pot based voltage control).
great comparison! I can hear the behringer have a somewhat "compressed" sound, and the OG is more dynamic and lively...you can hear this at 2:30 , 3:00 and 4:01 , but at this price it´s a bargain
If you can honestly hear those ever so slight differences... God bless you! I can't. Even if you were to be correct, in mix down or in mastering, you can fix those slight differences. That's really knit-picking. To me, both sounded just about dead even!
@@dez1989 listen to how the resonance sings a little longer and more dynamically on the original, I think that's what he's referring to. The resonance spikes are just a little more louder and swell up and down more in volume than the resonance of the TD-3, which kind of feels like it reaches a volume max on it's resonance spikes. See if you can hear it ^^
This isn't even to say that one is better than the other, but it's more of a "personality of the synth" thing. And it's also something you'd be hard pressed to fix during the mixing stages (getting one synths resonance to sing/move more dynamically in the same way as the 303) You could theoretically make the 303 sound like the TB-3 with some multiband compression or something of the like, but it also probably wouldnt really be the same, nor would it be too practical. It's just something to hear and think about, for the most part.
You're right I didn't noticed before I read your comment.. Maybe that's one reason why you can listen to this acid sparkle for your whole life..
That was brilliant, all that fun for 100 , works amazing with plugins in Ableton too, some excellent accidental sounds. I'm definitely getting another. We are living in a great time for being able to have things we couldn't usually afford :)
I have 3 with zero regrets. 2 TD-3s and a TD3-MO
Never thought I would say this but in the very first comparison of the video the TD-3 sounds better, more rounded like I expect a 303 to sound. It's quite amazing for this price and even at any price.
I’ve owned a 303 and have a TD3 . It really is spot on, amazing work from the abehringer team.
Charles Henderson and for this price it’s a steal.
Someone needs to blind test these Synth snobs.
I bought TD-3 few days ago and I'm already in love with it. I still have a lot of to study about this lovely acid machine :D
I was looking for a TD-3 video and found the Astrobiscuit Riktenstein, right?
Haha - you did. The Td-3 is great by the way. The closest thing I've used and I've owned, TB3, TB03, Bassbot, deepbass 9, Furure rev etc.
@@Riktenstein Mr. Bezos wrote an e-mail yesterday. The yellow smiley is going to arrive in about 2 Days. :) Now I need some drums, any suggestions? RD-6 maybe? The casings would look nice side by side... ;) Greets from Europe. :/
@@masu5000 I also bought the yellow smiley. It had to be done. I owned a tr606 back in the day. Great hi-hats but a disappointing bass kick. Though it really depends on what music you want to create. The Roland tr6s looks like it covers a lot of ground, but it's not analogue. I don't mean that in a negative way as I have no issue with digital.
@@Riktenstein It's now a RD-8. Someone in the neighborhood offered one in the classifieds. :)
great comparison. I think that the hi-end of the original sounds very aliased and _90s._ The TD3 has a more resonant low-mid range boost to it than the original, BUT the TB-303 seems to have a slightly more subby low end instead.
This is the best comparison I've seen, big up. "Try not to whinge" hahaha
Thing is thou, all TB 303´s sound a bit different...
Absolut best comparison! Simply no differences. i guess if you´ll use an oszilloscope you might discover some but for it´s the best clone. Uli made a good job on this!
Just got the transparent green one. It looks and sounds sexy
I bought a TD3 and love it. But never heard an original. Nice to get that comparison and feel smug about my purchase.
It’s the real thing!!
Close in some ways, but you'd hear how better the 303 sounds with more complexed tweaking of the knobs and a variation of patterns.
Agreed..
The filter and the lows sound sweeter on the original but the new one has a nice bright modern sound and the price is on point
@ROOTSCONTRA you make me laugh man keep it up, fantastic content
Good comparison, thanks!
I have 2 modded TD3s complete with the essential 303 mods from the now infamous Maffez guide(I presume you are aware of this guide) but I have to say this demonstration reset my ear to how close the factory TD is to the TB , nevertheless I am delighted with how my modded 2 sound now.
Behringer is really spitting out some great sounding clones these years. The model D and Poly D are also pretty much spot on.
I love my Model D. It’s very close but falls slightly short in my opinion. Of course, for the price, it’s remarkable
I'm an acid head, this is by far the best clone vs 303 comparison ever ; you match the paramteres perfectly ; I would love to here your music !! Thank you !!
The TT can by moded so the bottom end become strongest even with the resonnance cranked up ;
Now what I think about the TD3 ? I don't need another clone XD despites I use a moded X0XB0X :)
Cheers from France
Thanks for the nice comment from another acid head.
@ROOTSCONTRA Whats your problem.. What music do you listen to?
Honestly, I could listen to Acid 24-7! Great review thank you.
Behringer started copying pro audio gear and everyone complained. They copy music gear the original companies refuse to make and its gold!!
Both sound awesome! Thanks for sharing.. subbed
You can also play it live with a keyboard, including slides by overlapping notes, and high velocity for accented notes...
I did a 60sec version of Herbie Hancock's Chameleon on my instagram.
Well - I'm sold!!!!!! Thanks for the vid
Aside from the initial comparison, they are relatively equal. In the first comparison, the depth of the analog is clearly evident.
They both sound great and for the price the td3 is an obvious choice.
@@Riktenstein I have the Avalon Bassline, the Behringer TD-3, and the Roland TB-03. The Avalon is easily and by far the best, in everything but price. It is better than the TB-303 as it is closer to a Devilfish modded 303. (I would never bother with an original at this point, even NOT considering the absurd price).
If you have not checked it out yet, Behringer has made the TD-3-MO, which can do a lot of what the Avalon (and Devilfish) can do- in particular the sub-oscillator, and it is even more unbeatable for the price than the original TD-3. (It retails for about $200- which considering all of what it can do, I think it the better deal for the money).
I plan on picking one up soon, but FOUR 303 clones?! THREE is fine, but four is getting crazy. 😆
Great comparison thank you. Only listening on mobile but I thought the TD3 had a slightly nasal quality when the Res was cranked on the sawtooth. Cannot wait to get my hands on one though.
This might sound a bit weird, but it just sounds like what it is - a bit newer. I love it though.
I just bought a TD-3 an hour ago... crazy that it's only $150! Pair it with my 4 year old TB-3 for some acid duets... though the TB-3 will still be one of the easiest acid boxes to program patterns on...
I just bought two of the red ones -- and a 12 channel mixer. The drum machine I'm using is the Arturia DrumBrute Impact along with the Korg VolcaBeat and a real drum kit.
Shit is going to get real ... real soon.
Carl Scripter say goodbye to your friends now. Seriously having 2 x 303s is so much fun.
I owned no equipment 6 weeks ago. I just bought the yellow smiley version of the TD3 . I bought the Behringer RD-8 this week also. I bought the behringer mixer s1204usb I also bought the looper45000 and kick pedal thats EHX that makes that looper and I have the line 6 green box dL4. I also bought the Arturia mini lab. None of this is a joke I bought all that stuff. And I plan on enjoying my fecking life for a change. Oh I also bought the volca beats.
@@ExtremePainGames That's going to be a mighty fine set up. I have the original 808 and the RD is more fun. Also the Volca bass sounds lovely. I had a video on that. th-cam.com/video/8FNtd6WuRPU/w-d-xo.html
I got the black one today. Learning the sequencer makes my brains feel like scrambled eggs.
haha. yeah it stinks. The software editor really helps!! My 303s have the quicksilver sequencer which Behringer should have copied.
I can't tell the difference and if you're baking this into a track, the listener won't be able to either. The price point is perfect and it's so great to be able to afford some analog acid.
When sliding down from one note or another, the Roland tends to be more smoother. Other than that Behringer is actually polished and cleaner.
I'm one of the love the original sequencer types, we're out there. :P
There seems to be a lot you out there. I may be out numbered.
me too, but i like the mc-202 sequencer - the 303 is sane compared to that one! ;)
hrhcrab Lovely synth!!
great little box. got myself one and modded it a bit. will definetly get another one.
It's the sequencer that makes the 303 sound so special! The TD sounds amazing considering how cheap it is, I've got a TT303 but still thinking about grabbing a TD when they're back in stock.
I thought the TT was great for the squelch, but I like a screamer and it didn't cut it next to my original 303. For the price the TD is a must. They have an ACID yellow one in the pipeline.
Yeah I noticed the yellow one, very nice.
It’s been a long time since I had a ‘real’ TB303 so can’t do the direct comparison myself but you’ve shown just how close the TD is.
They are £97 right now at Gear 4 Music. Due to deliver in April so it's a long wait but it's a nice price.
@@miiiilan - great price, no wonder each shipment gets sold out before it arrives!!
Thank you very much! I'll definitive buy a little silver bird.
btw., you can tweak the TD3 a little bit by adjusting the trimpot inside.
Heinz Fiction I have a blue one on order soI’ll definitely do that.
Which one do you prefer? This behringer or the tb303 Cloud? I mean for the closer sound..
td 3. However for ease the Cloud 303 is great in your daw.
Yes bro, the TD3 is something I want to buy. Thank you for the video.
It really is the real deal and for next to nothing.
@@Riktenstein yes a right bargain.
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@ROOTSCONTRA hahaha, i don't mind the acid sound but i totally feel ya. (check out björk's "venus as a boy" for a better 303 sound though)
by stealing soneones synths? nope
I own both the td3 & rd6 Awesome Machines 🎶💥🎶💥🎶
I have one in the post, I was already sold but any doubts in my mind have been cleared, thank you!
I have two of each and when I jam, I don't know which sound is coming from which 303.
Well, shortly after borrowing my mates TB303 I decided I’d get my own, have owned a few over the years but need acid free for some time. Shelled out an embarrassing amount of money for one, that to be fair is in excellent condition. Two weeks later, Behringer do this to me ! Live and learns 🤣☹️😂
The only difference I can hear is in the resonance top end. Which sorta is very important ;) It is very close though, and a complete bargain.
Ive owned Adstrakt, TT303, TB303,x0xb0x etc and love the TD3R I will be getting the yellow and blue versions
Nice to see someone as addicted as me. That yellow one looks a bit special. I've ordered one too.
They both sound fuuuucken sick!.. Ive owned two original 303's. Try not to winge .. gold!
I honestly thought the Behringer sounded better in some settings, but for the most part, they seem SPOT on! 😳 And as with most clones, the original really sounds just that 5-10% better overall, so now everyone just has to decide how important that 5-10% is to them 🤷🏼♂️😬 lol
Great comparison! Thanks for posting!
@ROOTSCONTRA Calm down. You don't have to exaggerate that much to get your point across. You are seriously saying that the 303, the bass line machine that is one of the most influential devices in the history of dance music and that has appeared on some of the best tracks of the acid house era (DJ Pierre's stuff, Tyree, etc etc), is "the worst sounding machine on the face of the earth"? Compared to what and why? How about the 808? I guess that is too? I get where you're coming from in terms of the ubiquity of it and people making unoriginal music with either, but I think you're just being contrary for the sake of it. Just because it's popular doesn't make it shit.
@ROOTSCONTRA I thought we might be able to have a respectful, if animated, chat here, but you're being a total prick now, so bye bye. Hope you manage to deal with your issues at some point.
@ROOTSCONTRA P.S: A 303 has two waveforms, you absolute fucking donut. 😂
ROOTSCONTRA if you don’t like the 303 then why are you here you fucking walnut?
@Riktenstein Great Vid. I'm thinking of buying 2 blue ones of the TD-3 or maybe one Blu TD-3 & a Crave or perhaps all 3 ? But i'm kinda hoping Behringer will release there RD 909 soon? But it's been a while since they said it should be avail end of last year September but no sign of it online anywhere or any news for pre orders!!
I bet on 909 day. release/shipping date 9 september 2020. If im not wrong they started shipping the RD-8 on 8 August 808 day.
Resonance on the original is a bit wilder (slightly more drive/chirpiness), and also filter modulation seems to have a larger range, or the settings weren't matched 100%.
Yes' it's true, anyway TD3 sounds good.
SOLD! Damn close enough in all the departments it matters.
@ROOTSCONTRA dude if you don't like it then don't fucking buy it. If other people like it, they can buy it. It's that simple. I promise gives a shit that you don't like it.
can anyone pls tell me where to buy it? I'm in Germany, how everyone is making videos and saying they all have it I can't find it only for February
av ci It was just luck. When the pre-ordered came out I ordered one from Thomann when I got to work. 20mins later they were all sold out. I also ordered one from the UK. That will not arrive till mid feb.
I'm also in germany. I ordered mine november 23th and got it on 23th of december. so yeah, you have to wait about a month. I ordered at thomann
@@NeoBechstein what a pain!! I'm not patient, I wonder if they will ever make it available at any time so I can go to the store and buy it today or online. :( I saw one on ebay at 210 euros I might order 100 and start an UG lol
@@Riktenstein yeah I called all stores in Germany :( they told me that
I got lucky, one week before christmas thomann received a batch of blue and red TD-3's and I ordered it right then and received it a week later. Kinda sad for all of those who preordered quite a while ago ahah.
I did pay a premium of 260CAD instead of 260 because of the costly thomann shipping.
I got a blue TD-3 yesterday. I am really surprised how good it sounds. I really hope they develop a Devil Fish version at some point. Huge thumbs up for Behringer.
Six months later, on your blue box… Have you figured out how to make that rubbery 303B sound on it yet? And what do you think now that you’ve had it for a while?
@@majicboxstudios3996 it’s the best 303 clone. I’ve made some rubbery sequences
@@Zeal808 Bring me some butter! Can you link me your IG… I kept my TD3 + myTT303 together.
I am going to modify the TD3 slightly (trim pot) I may make a new metallic case for it
@@majicboxstudios3996 there’s not much TD3 post yet. instagram.com/10101a_?
@@Zeal808 Done!
Let me save you some time. As an owner and user of a Roland TB-303 since the 90's, get a TD-3. Or maybe two?
I did.
I did have the Red model but I was unhappy with the choice so I later sold it, then the other colours came so I just went managed to buy the Blue model & Amber model with the smiley face.
Had a hard time with a lot of UK music stores not selling the TD-3s in all there choice of colours or there out of stock! then its a long wait for the next batch to arrive.
I would like to hear a comparison between the original TB-303 and the TD-3 for the "pow" sound - Square wave, low cutoff, no env mod, no decay, and full resonance and full accent, for a short note. I have only heard this sound in one review, and then the TD-3 couldn't replicate the sound. In my opinion this is THE coolest sound available from the original. I just love it.
What is your experience @Riktenstein? Do they sound alike when set like this?
The barking 303 ;)
Everybody Needs A TD-3
Everybody needs 2 TD-3s!!!!
Best comment award. The young ones won't get it.
Check this out...
Everybody needs a 303 , fatboy slim..
i thought i never buy a real 303 because i'm not rich. i bought a td-3 silver, & i even bought 1 yellow td-3 from behringer, unfortunately i wasn't happy with the sound. For example, i love acid techno from the 90's with overdrive effect, and i plugged a Boss Sd-1, which is one of the iconic pedal for this style. (The distortion on the td-3 is great, it is like Boss Sd-1.)I never found the sound that i was looking for, i was suprised and disappointed, especially the behaviours of filters /reso / env mod / decay which don't have the same "richness" like the 303 sound i heard on records. Finally, after some years and thanks to behringer, my motivation was so strong that i managed to save money to buy a real tb303 and i'm very happy now, the behaviour of the sound is a bit different, with more "energy". Believe me the sound is not the same, it has more density on the real one & the knobs are more handy in fact. The real 303 with the Boss Sd-1 is pure joy now. The Td3 from Behringer is not a toy, but, for me, something is missing for sure, it's not an invention from my ears
I'm pretty new to these machines. So the only difference is the sequencer? What's so bad about the behringer td-3 sequencer? Is it better to buy a tb303 for that sequencer?
That was a absolutely great simple video. Thumbs Up! No one need more for an example. The comparison is so nice and sounds fantastic. I think too, behringer do a very good job with TD-3. I have a Original TB-303 in my studio and I don't think you can hear the difference in a full song or live rave. On stage or at the DJ desk, the TB303 would only be something for the eye. The original is simply cult, like the Technics 1210 turntable :-) it is great, but there are equivalent ones. For me is the TD-3 the best clone from the Original. Thanks for this super Video 👍👍
I agree it's a no brainer. They yellow one is very cool also.
I agree best comparison ever! I have a Bassbot TT-303 never opened v1. Bought it when it first came out years ago, forgot about it. I will do a comparison with my real TB-303 someday, I may just sell the TT-303 and get 2 of these in different colors! Great job for real!
Cheers much appreciated. Personally - I'd say bye bye to the TT303 and get the two different colours. Just remember that from memory the Bass bott is easier to programme. I'm thinking about comparing my 2 original 303s in the same way. The one problem is the accent has stopped working on one of them. Though I could finally clear up once and for all - that two 303s don't sound the same.
@@Riktenstein I also had 2 303's and sold one, yes I agree each one has a unique sound this is because of the components in time they of course alter, the amazingness of analog circuitry my friend but wow your tb-303 has a sharp filter and the TD-3 seems to match perfectly? I saw this video like 5 times and sounds exactly slightly differ in the decay not sure but very little. I have not messed with the bassbot as its never been opened, truth be told I bought it stored it when my wife was diagnosed with a rare rare cancer this is why,it was stored away in the storage (temperature controlled)with other many analogs synths! I just brought them back to my lab 15 synths and many modules. May have to sell them for cancer treatments but tb-303 will stay! Blessings and happy new year buddy!
Got my yellow td3 a week ago and I have a hard time to put it down. Will get a second one.
Yellow is a cool version.
Very good video / comparison !
Thanks.
First clone I’ve heard that I’d be happy with. Unfortunately my desire for that sound has wavered. I’ll pick one up second hand when they’re piss cheap.
I got one brand new from Amazon for $53 on December 31st 2019 and I got a used one from some guy un Philly for $109.
i noticed you have the Quicksliver OS in your TB303... that added loads of noise to my 303 - had John remove it and I'm back to the original OS - less noisy but still not clean ;)
I bought my tr606 from Hodges and Johnson in Romford back in 82 for 199 quid. The tb303 was selling for the same price. I didn't get one as the guy told me they were a nightmare to program. I rememberseeing them for 99 quid a few months later. I just paid 90 quid for a brand new td3. I figure i can try to get over the difficulties now , or i can use the software. Either way, the chap saying that they were selling them for 50 quid is about right in my book.
I'll buying one soon that's for sure . BIG THANKS for this comparison VID..sold my original 303 for £100 bk in 1983 lol
Dave The Rave for just an extra 29 quid you’ll be raving about soon.
Bought one today £100 off FB market brand new the guy wasn't feeling the acid lol
Dave The Rave bargain!!! Which colour?
I bought aSilver one but I now see the yellow ones with the smiley face are a limited edition ..still happy tho 😊
I had both the Deep Bass Nine and the FreeBass 383. While DB9 was a nice bass-synth, it wasn't really a 303-clone at all. But I was quite happy with the FB-383 and used 2 of them for my acid-lines...
But today, also the FB-383 seems ridiculous compared to the new clones. TB-03, TD-3 and the ABL-3 (plugin) are all very well done. My favorite is the TD-3, followed by ABL-3 and then on 3rd place the TB-03. So if I choose hardware: I would buy 2 TD-3s for the same price as 1 TB-03.
thanks for the comparison, between the TD and clyclone TT which you think has a better sound ? the resonance on the Behringer is so harsh
I prefer the Behringer, however I owned the early Cyclone version. Soon as you dialled in any resonance the bottom end disappeared. Might be different on the new version. For the money though the TD3 is hard to ignore. The yellow one looks very cool too.
@@Riktenstein thank you
I just bought a tb303 I own a td3, Avalon bassline, tt303, and a tb3. The td3 does not sound closer than the Avalon it is that under analysis the square wave sounds off and also the resonance! I tell you the Avalon has this annoying clicking sound sometimes. I guess what pushed me to get a tb303 was the price it was selling at at a secondhand dealer I guess this is what pushed me over the line! I am happy with behringer’ s attempt it is pretty good quality but I find the tb303 will hold it’s value!
Never used the Avalon, but it looked great. Got 2 tb303s. Most of the other clones I have sold now.
The slight difference in sound is comparable to the difference that exists between two TB-303s? And for 150 dollars/euros? My TD3 has been on backorder now for several months - ship date is supposedly Feb 2020. Looking forward to it, and viva Behringer!
I have a video with two 303s coming next.
Great comparison. Objective thoughts are that the original 303’s filter opened up a little more at the top end (nothing a bit of top end shelving eq couldn’t fix maybe). The original also had a little more punch and there was definitely a bit more ‘funk’ in the timing. It had more bounce. The Behringer faired up very well however, and the differences were pretty small. It will cost you up to another 2 grand to get past those small differences. Now where’s the 909 clone to go with it?!
I’m excited for mine to come tomorrow. The sequencer doesn’t scare me because I am looking for something that’s a little bit different. I invite happy mistakes
I could see the sequencer being a pain to make a bassline to an already existing track.
It would be awesome if behringer done a eurorack module of this..... how difficult could it be? Add in a Euro clock pulse in as well as the midi..... I think it would be a winner! 👍
Curious question what labels if any have you released .. and under what aliases that i may know off and are you currently signed with a label ?????????? Or do you mainly self release via bandcamp .. Anything on Vinyl CD ..
A few releases back in the 90s and 2000s. I do some stuff for TV now and again, but my main mortgage payments come from engineering for post production. Now I try to keep music fun.
Annibale O. Pace keepin records
Nice comparison 👍. Thanks for sharing👌
They sound pretty identical to me, only thing I thought I noticed was the tb303 sounds like it's got a slightly steeper filter, just sounded like it cut more of the mids out quicker when sweeping the cut off. £150 though, insane. That's about the same price as a korg volca.
Gear 4 Music are selling it for £97 right now.
miiiilan damn back to 129 now
@@MrClarkio yes must have been a temporary offer. Strange. I got my order placed in time.