Have a 2017 f type R in British racing green. Just got it used from JLR out of Michigan sight unseen off of Carfax, 17k on the Odometer. Drove it a few times what a thrill and fun ride. It goes in the garage for the winter. In New York State. Its my dream car. So comes out on sunny warm days. Keep it on a good battery maintainer. Not one regret its a work of art in every way. Its not a daily driver for me I will leave that for my Mazda cx5. Ill never get a battery toy car.
I’ve had my 2014 V6 S convertible for going on 5 years now. I’ve had only 1 “problem” and zero reliability issues. Albeit the problem was significant (coolant pipes burst… but the shop was literally a block away, so all good). Otherwise, only regular maintenance and new tires… awesome car.
2015 V6 Coupe, 55k miles, used as my daily for the past three years, not a single issue, so gets my vote for reliability. Serviced annually, new rear tyres every 25k miles, and one top up with premium fuel about once a month (ie when I remember!) to clean the engine, other than that, it looks after itself. Love it to bits!!!
Enjoy the 450, it should be an amazing car! Short answer on fuel is it depends where you are based, as there are different fuel measuring systems! Let's start with Jaguar’s official statement, to “Use high quality fuel with detergent that meets the specification defined by EN228, WWFC5 cat. 5 or the national equivalent. Low quality fuel can damage the engine and reduce engine performance” … looking that little lot up, the EN228 standard specifies 95 RON, and WWFC5 category 5 includes 95 and 98 RON. So, here in the UK, where we label fuel using the RON system, we have Standard 95 RON and Super / Premium 97 RON, so we can happily use either … as we suffer sub-zero (Centigrade/Celsius) temperatures (it is January!!) and pay an average of £1.50 a litre for petrol, while we look forwards to warmer drier motoring in the spring! Meanwhile the USA uses the AKI (R+M)/2 measurement system, where 95 RON is about 91, so the way I read it, US friends will want to stick to premium fuel labelled as 91 or higher where they can … as they enjoy temperatures measured in Fahrenheit, and pay almost half what we pay for gasoline at an average of 3.35 US$ per Gallon. Either way, happy motoring!
150k miles on my 2014 6 cylinder convertible. At 90k miles had leaks in all my water hoses. Before that had a couple bad oxygen sensors and one vacuum leak in a cracked hose. I would say it’s a reliable car. Lots of freeway miles in Los Angeles area.
Thanks for another great video, Mark. I love my 2017 F-type R, and I consider it at least as well built and reliable as any of my other cars. Waay back before Ford acquired Jaguar, they were crap. Ford changed that, but so many uninformed people continue to assume the reputation from 30 years ago still stands. One item you didn’t mention is the glorious crackles and pops this car makes when you back off the throttle are so forceful they can potentially shatter the catalytic converters. Jaguar modified later versions of the firmware to tone down the exhaust theatrics to avoid that potential problem. I won’t let them update mine. I’ll take my chances, rather than muffle the god of thunder.
Haha, absolutely I will keep mine like that too. You, me and the rest of the lucky F Type owners know what we have so let the naysayers keep buying their flakey Audis, we know what we have and glad it’s sort of a hidden secret. Have a wonderful week
Mark thanks for the reliability video. I appreciate all your information on the R. I do plan on getting one and probably a low miles 2018 -19 as I understand they have improved plastics over earlier models with the coolant fittings. I had some issues with that kind of thing with a BMW I had which I was able to repair myself.
Glad to help. I have notice thought that many of the coolant fittings are better than BMW and MERC as those have the silky locking plastic ends while these have a more conventional setup.
@@cadilluck Are you talking about the coolant fittings under the supercharger? Not an easy fix removing the blower to fix it but yes I have heard about some of the fittings being metal aftermarket offerings.
Mark Great video, in July 2024 I bought one of the last F Types produced (P450 AWD V8 convertible.)I’m in France touring in it now.I love it, and even managed to fit enough clothing for 10 days for my wife and I.The Boxter 4.0 GTS 718 was my other option but a new one to the same spec is $20,000 more and whilst probably has a better record for reliability still has issues.On the GTS Forum in USA one car with 20,000 miles is on a new engine and it was reported that 160 engines have been replaced under warranty in USA. As you said , if you drive a Tesla you turn invisible and miss the drama of the Jaguar. Keep up the excellent videos and let’s see if exotic gasoline cars start to hold their value due to production being stopped.
Hi Mark, I was in the market for getting a sport car and was looking at a Corvette which I’ve had in the past but the Jag sounded so great and I was on the fence about it. Listening to your blogs convince me that I made a good solid choice. I love getting in the car taking my time starting it up and hearing that engine rev. And as you say I do look back on my car when I go into a store just to get that extra look. Thanks again and keep up the blogging.
@@markholubetz I got a 2014 Jaguar f type r convertible black exterior with white seats all upgrades. Was wondering on a update for the head unit what do you recommend?
My favourite vehicle ever has been a 1986 Land Rover 90 with the 2.5 n/a diesel, none turbo, no frills absolutely basic vehicle! Oh, it had a hardtop with no windows fitted but I did add Power Steering. It had 85000 km when I got it (52816 miles) and I sold it at 92500 miles. I called him Maximus since it was an ex mod vehicle and he ran perfectly and NEVER broke down. He wasn't a toad only vehicle, I did a hell of a lot of extreme off roading, yes even here in darkest deep Yorkshire, uk it still exists if you know where your going. My point is, if you fall in love with a vehicle, it doesn't matter what folk think and any pit falls you don't care about because it's your baby! Good video as always Mark, I still want a Tesla but at the moment I'm seriously considering an old Range Rover L322 with a V8TD...am I mad? Probably but when it bites, you just got to do it!
For sure I totally agree, it should be from your passion and. It really about the latest Tik Tok poster car. Drive what makes you happy and if it’s in your means, I say there is no time like the present. Still waiting to take delivery of my next big car buy too….patience and go what what you know and it should work out in the end…
I know it's not a f-type, but I own a 2018 XE 35T r-sport, and have since upgraded the air intake pipe and filters, lower and upper pulleys, changed out the original cats with sport cat down pipes from Fabspeed, and tuned it through VelocityAP and this machine is outstanding. A truly visceral and dynamic driving experience that sets Jag apart from the 3-series, 5-series, boxster s, c43, audi s4 that I have owned. F-type will definitely be in my future. Great videos. Thanks.
Older clutches are an issue. I think they are up to a “gen 4’. My 2017 is fine so far. Also with the coolant front pipe, many replace more items such as the water pump, expansion tank,…, too. I believe the O2 sensors have a longer warranty, at least in the US. My alternator did die while I was going from New York to visit my brother in Boston. Not only did AAA come within 45 minutes and I was able to pull off the highway in time, but also the Fairfield jaguar dealership was a mile or two away. Finally the dealer was a mile from the Metro North station, so I could easily get back to Brooklyn while they repaired the car, and of course, go back up to Connecticut easily. My car was very considerate where it broke down.
Haha, as long as they make it convenient. It seems my BMWs weren’t quite as nice on ocassion. There are some things go, and I wonder how much is due to li g sitting time. Weak batteries can influence electrical gremlins and fluids not regularly moving can cause troubles. I k ow many people minimize the use and miles on their cars. Just a thought ….
Another awesome and informative video! I just got my F-type R AWD last week, and it was love at first drive for sure. I've been watching your videos, and it definitely helped me pull the trigger on this dream car. Keep up the great content! 😀👍
I have one and love it here in England, I keep the battery on a trickle charger , my car did have a sensor failure and also the switch pack on one side of the steering wheel failed , just done a 2000 mile trip across Europe absolutely loved it , mine also has a fixed spoiler which I think gives it more curb appeal
Unfortunately the 3.0 v6 was the first engine to be produced by the then new factory in Wolverhampton, and as it was their first engine they had to recall pretty much every one produced in the first couple years. Be default this meant pretty much all the first f types produced also had to be recalled. Thankfully they ironed out all the problems on the factory line and I haven’t heard any similar complaints from the outstanding 2.0 i4 or 3.0 i6
Thanks for sharing, and yes you are right, its usually the way by many car brands and the first couple of years is always a bit of a risk as there are always a few bug to work out. Its at a point now though that the cars are more or less in line with most other LUXURY brands for reliability, however these are much nicer cars that most opposition.
I think he's right. My 500kmi accord has lights on but it's a runner!! Srs doesn't hurt anything check engine light is a suggestion when it's straight piped.
Hey Mark. I just recently sold my 2013 V6S with 48k miles. Had it 3 years and covered 13k miles. Simply the most fun car I've ever had, but sold it as I was sick of getting a big bill every 6 months. Suspect a lot of the issues were down to it being one of the first cars built and thinking of getting a newer one, but not sure I can bring myself to do so, been financially scarred. So technically, mine was reliable, never broke down, but the quality was terrible. I'm sure I've ranted about this on your channel before, but during my ownership (just 13k miles) it had a new supercharger, water pump, multiple cooling pipes, two O2 sensors, rear subframe bushes replaced, steering wheel buttons replaced, unseized exhaust valves, refurbished the subframe braces, rear camera was always foggy.... I'm,, sure there's much more. I also know the rear diff had a small leak, the door handle was making a terrible noise when cold. Annual servicing was also grating when only doing 4k miles a year. Would love another, but then I read about headlight DRL failures on the 2017 onwards at £3k a pop. Maybe the 2020 cars are better. Such a gamble... Supra with 10 year warranty is appealing.
Hey trinityct11. I live my f type. I would have no prob with another. If I sold. I am so sorry all you have done to yours. But in 40 years of buying autos. I have my favorite brands. And even with that every now and then I get one that I have so much grap going on with it. As a new vehicle that it amazes me. And when I do out the door it goes. Because it is one that no matter what it will always be bad. Your could have been the one that it was born to give probs. And the other way around I have gotten the same make and unreal the service I had with it. I headed to let it go. Like people. Don’t judge all people by one person. We all have our own personality’s. And auto are the same way. If you by talk to it. It will talk back. But how it does will tell you do or don’t. My you always have a blessed ride.
Wow, that does sound like you really experienced the Monday car. Sad to hear. With that, I can’t necessarily suggest taking the dive again, but I know there are many very happy owners and a very unhappy ones with varying degrees of experiences. I have had my car for about 3 years now and still loving it so it sounds really hit and miss. I know what you mean with the Supra, I was scoping one of the new GR units and it potentially comes in a stick now so that is a great option(. With the caveat of a BMW engine). The new Corvettes are intriguing and now the Z06 and a Bubrid model just announced means there are some very cool rides available.
My 2015 S is my daily driver with 120,000 km. I love it but it has required some maintenance: Leaking pinion seal (replaced it), slightly weeping water pump (replaced it), steering wheel buttons (the connectors got corroded somehow), and replacing the air conditioning compressor tomorrow. It would be nice if none of these issues arose, of course, but to me it’s like your beautiful wife has a cold. You’ll still love her and she’ll get over it and still be beautiful. I take care of these things asap before they develop into something that would leave the car on the side of the road. It hasn’t left me on the side of the road, so I guess by definition it’s quite reliable.
Have a 2018 V6S with 37,000 miles on it which I daily drive. Only issue so far was an oxygen sensor which overheated and caused the check engine light to come on. This got fixed by the main dealer for £360 (about $450). Other than that, I run OBD diagnostics on the car regularly and I haven't got any error codes. My overall experience with reliability is very positive, especially compared to German cars I have owned. The satnav is a bit stupid though - it once sent me on a 4 hour journey across Ireland that I probably could have done in 2 if I'd used my phone satnav.
I put in a carplay unit for abotu 400 dollars and it took the place of the nav int he car...wireless too. Now have multiple nav options off the iphone...best option as traffic, weather, and even "voice commands" now work and are updated by apple and that ecosystem....not JLR. Best mod I've made.
The first thing you need for a reliable car is a good engine and then the Transmission, the 5.0 V8 with the ZF box is up there with the best. Sure the F Type has some day to day issues but you can't drive a Honda Accord like an F type but you can drive the F Type like an Accord and I bet you it would last a lot longer and definitely give you more thrills whilst doing so.
Going to see (and hopefully purchase) a 2015 F-TYPE R with low miles tomorrow evening. I've been on the fence, but this video is helping me feel more positive about the choice. Just can't get over how good these look and sound.
Thanks for the reliability video Mark, it covers all the things I've read over the past weeks and hearing it from an actual owner who's got one with almost 60K on the clock adds more validation over just hearing it from people who haven't even hit 20K. Your car is driven, it gets plenty of use, and yet there are no surprises at all in this video - that's incredible and makes me feel less insane for spending the money to have a loaded 2016 V8R shipped to my city for me to test drive and potentially buy in just under 2 weeks. Thanks for all the informative videos you put out, especially since you live in a colder climate like I do and seem to drive your F-Type as frequently as I plan to (I'm expecting about 5000 miles per year) - I've been going through your videos for a couple of days now and have found them very informative. Hope to join you in the V8R ownership club soon!
Thank you so much for the support and yes, as much as it hurts to pile on the miles, it hurts even more not to use this amazing car and the way I see it, who am I going to save the miles for? The next owner? Even with higher miles, there is still some value, but a huge amazing of experiences and fun. Good luck on the purchase and would love to hear more about it once you get it done. Have a wonderful weekend .
Definitely will do. I fully agree with the idea of enjoying driving an amazing car and not just keeping it as a garage ornament. My late uncle had a 2007 Shelby GT that he drove daily until he sold it to my dad, then my dad daily drove it until he retired and when it comes to me, I intend to drive it plenty as well. That's why I was happy to find the F-Type that I did - it had two accidents within the first year it was on the road, but the miles since tell me it was repaired right and that the blemish on the history just makes it a better deal for someone who is more concerned with getting a great vehicle and is less concerned with eventual resale value. If I like it, I'll keep it for many years.
@@markholubetz Love the look of it even more in-person and every petrolhead that I know loves it, but there's already been a catch. I live in a condo in a rich neighborhood that is primarily an older community, so at 38 I'm the youngster... My condo is next to luxury apartments and a very pricey 55+ community as well... A couple neighbors love it, but there have already been noise complaints due to the volume of the cold start and there have been threats to file a report with the police to have it sound tested due to noise ordinances, which it will definitely fail due to the ritzy neighborhood wanting everything dead quiet... Some people just can't let others have nice things, so I'll regretfully comply and let them hear it's song on the way out... Fortunately I won't be losing much money over this, the dealer is taking it back and refunding everything short of the administrative fees, so hopefully I can find another in the same color combo in a couple of years, after I move out of this condo and buy a proper house. She was a beauty for the short time I got to have her... dark sapphire with the black pack and carbon blade wheels... the right mix of beautiful and aggressive, that extremely addictive exhaust note (I think I only used the radio for a total of 10 minutes since I bought it)... I'm sad to see it go...
Unfortunately, my 2016 R has had more issues than I can even imagine. Coolant leaks, oil leaks, drivetrain grease leak, vacuum seal leaks, front left and right strut bars needed to be replaced, fuse box melted and shorted out the battery and fried it. And I've only had the car for about 2 months. The car has about 50K miles. Everything is fixed now, but pretty worried about what will happen in the future.
Honestly, most of these issues just sound like common problems that occur as a car ages. There's nothing like chronic valve failure or constant gasket blows. Pretty much everything you listed could be caught with routine maintenance. Its wear and tear fixes.
Ive owned 4 Jags and the problems I have had once the mileage gets up there are the same for ALL cars made in Europe or US. The plastic cooling parts rot. Electronic sensors fail. Ive not owned a Toyota or Honda so I cant say I have firsthand experience to see the difference, but I know I wouldn’t enjoy the driving experience as much as I do in my Jag XFR.
I really enjoy your balanced approach to reviewing your F-Type. I liked your piece on reliability. Reliability is an often talked about issue and often misunderstood even when it comes to vintage Jaguars. You stating that they are no more or less reliable then many other brands is bang on but as an owner of 10 Jaguars, three Porches and four Mercedes. I can tell you that the magic in Jaguars is how you feel in them and the fact that for road cars, they do everything well. My 2024 Porsche Spyder RS is for sure a superior track weapon but on city streets where it’s irresponsible to try and find a cars limits. I never get to the point where its advantages shine but I do experience some of the short comings as an all rounder in contrast to Jaguar luxury and ride comfort while still being competent canyon carvers. Don’t get me wrong, I am not a one brand guy. I love all vehicles both two and four wheeled but Jaguars have a way of doing what they do and honouring their storied history like few others. I have a F-Type Heritage 60 convertible and when I drive it or even wash it. I can see the DNA from my Series 1 and Series 3 E-Types. Not sure of you ever do reviews on the west coast or if you only do things locally in Alberta but if you ever want to see a family of important Jaguars I have them. I have a 1956 XK140SE, 1963 MK2, 1967 Series 1 E-type, 1974 Series 3 E-type, 1995 XJS V12, 1996 XJS Celebration Edition, 2006 Van Den Plas, 2010 XKR, 2021 F-type Heritage 60 and a 2023 F-Pace Edition 1988. All in show condition, which brings me to my final point. Even old Jaguars like some of mine are very reliable, “IF” they are properly maintained. The XK engines first used in 1948 were installed in Jaguars all the way to 1994. That engine if lubricated and kept in a proper state of tune, provides tens of thousands of trouble free miles while looking like under bonnet jewelry. Anyway, I like the way you tell it like it is, not over or undersold. Keep it up. Cheers. 🎉
I have a 2016 F-Type R. Just crossed over the 50K mark. Best car I ever had, driving and reliability. The only issue I have had is the O2 sensor. Had to replace one of those. I did have a very strange stretch last fall where I had to replace 3 tires do to picking up nails. Actually the first puncture was not a nail. I ran over a Yeti 16oz cup. They found the bottom of the cup, folded in half, inside the tire. Left a two inch slash in the tire. That was the car's first and only tow. Oh yeah, the flat tire kit that comes with the F-Type will not seal a two inch slash in the tire. Thanks for the videos. I enjoy your channel.
Sounds like some strange luck but overall a solid ownership experience. I agree, I have seen these cars as or more reliable than many BMW, Audi and Benz peers
I swear I see you hold back on the F Type grin at the beginning of this review Mark and your not even driving the thing. Great chat again as always. Had mine 5 years no real problems apart from the odd niggles, Vent stopped working but put itself right, window scratches that were done under warranty and touch screen stopped working that was sorted by a simple reboot disconnecting the boot (trunk) battery.
Haha, you bet, I truly love my car, glitched and all. Complicated, yet simple, fast, yet comfortable, above all, nothing like it without spending 1/2 mil.
I don't have a F-type but just picked up my 4th Jag 2 months ago. My 1st was a 1983 xj6 that was a basket case but every once in a while it would show you how good it could be. The 2nd is a 1999 XJ VDP that was pretty neglected when I picked it up. I sorted it out over a couple months and then drove the heck out of it for 6 years (currently has 180K miles on it), with only the odd warning light from time to time. The only real problems it had were just little things that were more of a nuisance than anything else. My 2011 XJL is going strong so far only needing a wheel bearing (was bad when I bought it) and the 2017 F-pace just needs a battery as the original is not what it used to be. All in all I love the brand, and because of the bad rep I feel they are under valued. As one that works on my own stuff I also find that many parts are carried over from other cars making some repairs pretty affordable i.e. rear wheel bearing on the '11 xj is a front bearing for a Honda Accord/Civic across a bunch of years.
These are beautiful cars but Jaguar's are expensive machines to maintain and for those for a true passion for the brand and it's beauty. You have to be an older gent (like me!) to appreciate it. Even today, with Jaguars future uncertain, I'd still love to own an XJS.
For sure the XJS is a great car as are most of the unique cars in the marque. It may be a sad day looking back remembering what we USED to drive. Thanks for watching
JayEmm did a great video today talking about the vehicles planned for the next few years from Jaguar, as well as Jag's viability as an ongoing manufacturer.
Agree. I am putting metal coolant pipes on mine, a sc snout solid piece to prevent any issues, and put a new agm battery in it (and I drive it a lot)....superb car. Maintenance is key. Did tranny, diffs, transfer case, oil myself, plugs were done by my mechanic. BG44k to prevent injectior issues...one bottle every 3m (overkill but I can afford it). Best car ever. Subaru...had two engine blow up on a stock car. 996TT. Coolant pipes and leaking vacuum system.....and tranny went up....2nd gear fork is well known issue in the 996 TT (and probablyt he 997tt manual). New 911's are VERY tech...engine mounts are issues...over 1k each to fix and you fix in pairs, etc. Dynamic engine mounts. Bore scoring on scores of porsche cars now. BMW engines....lots of them seem to self destruct. Some don't. Mercedes....hugely complex. Off warrany repairs can total a car (a/c on a 300e was 5500 off warranty to change a condensor known to crack...etc.). Jaguars are really great cars post 2010. Bosch electronics. Leer seats. TRW brakes. Big players make the sytems.....the design is amazing.
You are totally right. The old cars were questionable but anything In recent history is both solid and wonderful to admire and drive. Why buy an RS Audi when these cars exist. Hope you are having a great week.
Yet the Internet just won’t accept any of these endorsements. It’s the strangest thing, but it’s like people will just not let go of the past despite their modern cars being okay (Jag side, not LR). I know people with F-types and XEs and they have been great.
You should, for the fun of it, compare your F-type with the XK from before, since they both have the same chasis, see if there are any similarities and if the F-type was an evolution to the XK or a whole different animal.
My Lexus LC 500 has no issues and will last 10 years no problem and is a gorgeous car in my opinion . 5.0 glorious n/a engine that has ported and direct injection so no intake valve oil migration ever !!!
You will get bored by the power ..all na engine owners..with turbo 30l or 50l now when you get bored of their power you go stage 2 and you have a different car with 150hp or 200hp plus..with na no chance not even near to that..
Had my 2014 F Type R V8 for 6 years now and not had a SINGLE issue. 25k miles covered. I'll be selling in 2 months time if anyone is interested. Grey, alcantara, carbon fibre kit extras. UK based
Im coming out of a 2018 911. Looking at a new F type R. They are giving great discounts on new F types here in the US ( $25k off msrp ) I just might have to pull the trigger. The car looks way better in person than on video or pics, sooo classy..
@@markholubetz I purchased my 911 new, drove it for 14K miles and sold it at a big profit, the market made me do it. I test drove a new GT3 and was kind of underwhelmed especially for the price. I need something different. The FtR is just stunning in person, especially for the price.
If this statement is even half true, some clear evidence that the US and CND markets for this car new are VERY different. Discounts here in Canada on 2024s are pretty much non-existent. To be honest, your statement seems to be an exaggeration. If that was at all true the dealers would be under water on the sale. Perhaps maybe on left over 2022s or 2023s, but even then…
Fuel injection, supercharger isolator coupler and water pipe, especially the Y pipe. Just spent 6000.00 to repair SOME of these and has the car in the shop for 2 months. I wouldn’t. Buy it again.
Hi John, thanks for joining and great choice on your next car. Actually the roofs come in 3 different formats when going coupe, painted metal, panoramic like mine, or a carbon fibre roof. I personally like the glass as it gives it a nice contrasting look from outside yet gives that brightness from inside.
I disagree. You can’t redefine the term “reliability” to mean loss of function of the vehicle to get you home. Reliability refers to the all designed functions, so if the door handle fails, it’s unreliable at its intended function. That is a failure. You might still get home (if you can get in), so not catastrophic…but it failed to meet its design intent over a reasonable period of time. And is unreliable in that aspect. If the vehicle as many of these…it becomes classified as Unreliable too.
@@wl660 thing is European car manufacturers fail at reliability with almost everything when compared to Toyotas. My family had both Japanese and European cars and the European cars always had issues. I mean everything from Peugot to Land Rover. I dont understand how some of these reliability scores are achieved when even simple door handles fail more often on European cars. Lets not get to the power trains because thats a whole different league and Japanese cars are miles ahead in terms of reliability. Its embarrasing really.
I think there are owners that are not flustered by a failure and an expensive repair. So an expensive luxury or sports car is not going to disappoint them. But I think there are a lot of owners who are greatly bothered by a failure and an expensive repair bill. And a couple of these failure events will cause them to freak out and lose interest in their expensive car. I see the same thing happen in luxury homes. Some people have the money to buy an expensive luxury home, but they are totally unprepared for the expensive upkeep. When the big repair bills started hitting their wallet, they are looking for a way out from the game. People need to do their homework and go into these major purchases with both eyes wide open.
Love your vids, but reliability to me means anything that requires repairs. I had a 2010 Jaguar XFR and a 1972 Jaguar xj6. Both stunning and comfortable and the XFR was a monster. Both were also total junk. Extremely costly to own and repair and always needing something. They are beautiful cars, and I love seeing them, but I wouldn’t own another one.
Looked at buying one of thease ( in the uk)..I drive a Porsche cayman s. Which I love. Similar probs , sensors water pumps .. but like most cars no two cars are the same , no matter the make ..
Hello! Mark...Just purchased a 2017 F-Type "S" 19" wheels and would like some recommendations for front and rear tires...go with the factory issue or increase size. No track just weekend North Carolina country road "touring."
Hi Michael I have heard of people using different tire options, some of which may may work better in snow or heavy rain but your area is decent most times of the year so I would likely stick with the Pirellis. I likely also would go stock size as well but if you want larger than a wider set of rims are needed with a slightly different offset. For mine I kept it simple and I put a set of spacer “adapters” on stock wheels and tires as I like them better than most aftermarket options. The spacer makes the stance look a little more squared off and fuller in the fenders. Some say the wheel bearings may take a hit but I am not sure there is enough of any impact to that to worry about. I am not. Good luck on the car, should be a ton of fun.
Mark I feel like I’ve seen a video of yours where you installed the red stripe under your front and rear splitters, but I can’t find it at all. Can you point me in the right direction? Thank you for all of the info, you’re great.
Hi, not sure I showed the install but I did show the finished product when i did it. Easy hour on the driveway and so r UV rated sign vinyl and I was good to go.
I have had 2 F-Types. Both 2014 V6S Roadsters. First one did have an issue w the engine. Jag fixed it. I cant remember the issue. My current one has only had one issue. Bad O2 sensors. Fixed for around $500. Dont go to the dealer, they rip you off. For the most part ALL of my cars had issues from time to time. On the other hand I cant bring myself to buy a LR Defender. Too expensive to buy and fix. I'm nervous about that.
I have a 2016 F type R and it's been way more reliable then my M4, M5, C63, ferrari California, audi S8 and many other cars I've had. Mine has 134,000 Miles yes MILES! I just did a 4k service for valve cover gaskets, alternator and ALL new fluids, tranny,diff,coolant, Everything And now i'm probably only gonna have to do oil changes for another 40k miles. I'll probably keep it till it hits atleast 200k miles, By then it will only be worth 20 grand so there won't be any point to sell it, so I'll probably drive it into the ground.
That's awesome - I'm at 75k on my 2015 R, and it's been more reliable than any of my S4s, my S5, and the RS5 that I traded for it. Don't even get me started on my E92 M3! As you know, DIY maintenance is extremely simple, and aside from the coolant pipes I haven't had any major issues. Resale value is awful because of Jaguar's horrible reputation, of course, but the F-Type R is truly one of the best sports car bargains on the market.
Thinking about getting a nearly-new F Type R, wondering which year may have the edge over other recent years. Thinking about the ‘19-‘22 years. Any differentiation?
Hi Doug, really they are all great and can’t go wrong. With that said, the newest is usually the best due to mechanical and tech uodates. I personally needed to have awd but some people like the rwd animal in older models. I still prefer the last of the older generation so that’s what I would suggest, but maybe drive them and see.
Mark thanks again. I love learning little things. I am not one to work on my car but cleaning. And caring for it. But it is important to me to be aware to prevent probs later. Love your videos. And I smile as I drive. Love my f type. Best thing I ever did. I don’t drive it in the winter. But I do go start it. So I ask. To keep my battery great and get its best life. How often do u think I should give it a start.
Hi Ray, yes these cars are impeccable and little line them. As far as battery charging, I would suggest a quality trickle charger and forego random starts regularly as this creates acids within the engine and can actually lead to deterioration. The best thing ultimately is an oil service in the fall and leave the car for the winter and restart only once regularly driving again.
Is there much difference in reliability berween the production years 2016-2020? When buying a used f type is it better for the car to have had no issue or replacement parts?
later years of a certain generation are almost always better with small things that they have ironed out since the first year. it might seem like a rip-off buying the last year of a certain gen/body style because you are only one model year from the new style. but they are usually the most reliable.
I wonder if he bothered to mention which engines he was referring to, considering it comes with a 2.0, 3.0, and 5.0, with around 7 different levels of performance between the 3.
Jesus, he basically nitpicked issues every car has..ive had a ton of exotics and a f type. The nightmares were the m6, v8 esprit and db9 for me. F type was wonderful. Ferrari maserati DBS also never gave me any problems ever lotus elise exige evora are rock solid. Porsche had issues. F type was solid and one of the most enjoyable cars ive ever owned to drive, truly its shockingly fun to drive.
@@markholubetz It was my dads car, switch to a 2018 750i now, still plenty fast, nice V8 sound but comfort was the most important factor really. I miss the jag
Hi Mark, thanks for the informational video, looking to buy a used f type R 2016-19, wanted a hellcat, this car changed my mine, one question how is the driver seat for space? I'm 6"2 wondering if it would be a problem...
Go for it! I would say try a drive in one but I know Jeremy Clarkson is quite tall and fits in the cars so my thoughts are it would fit. I know the Dodge would be roomier but the F Type is a sportier more compact feel.
Disappointed in mark here. How truly absurd - now the car has to fail to move at all or it’s “reliable” lol. Talk about a low bar! By this standard… yeah…most GM, Chevy cars are just rock solid! 😂
If the things that he talked about here scared you off then performance cars basically are not for you. This stuff is small potatoes in the grand scheme, and certainly relative to other scenarios that you could find yourself in with other vehicles. The message that Mark is trying to convey is that this car is a mature platform with predictable and known trouble spots that COULD crop up. The engine and the transmission are known quantities, and the “pain” points for the car are basically known. The car has basically been unchanged and refined from the beginning. This is the best case scenario for any mechanical device. Perhaps go get a Toyota Corolla GR…lol…In all seriousness, actually not a bad little car 😊
@@dlj1285 I own an early Porsche 997 and Ferrari 575 amongst other sports cars. I do all my own wrenching and am well familiar with "pain points". Every car , even Corolla's , have their weak spots. The question is , how many , how likely to occur and how expensive to fix. I research all these data points before I buy a car. Any car. The f-type seems to have a lot of "possible" failure points which raises the risk. I guess the ultimate question is how much pain are you willing to risk in relation to how much pleasure that particular car will provide. The ratio works in favor of pleasure for Mark which is all good. Having owned Jaguars in the past I'm a little leery of their reliability.
@Steen Jensen Very well said. It definitely has multiple pain points that could arise. Definitely concern for risk especially with Jaguar's rep of not being super reliable. Seems to have gotten better over the years but there are a lot of little things with this car that can pop up at any moment. At least it's pretty though and I'm sure fun to drive when everything is working properly
@@tonypartridge7085 There are many reports out there of people driving these cars with little to no issues. My buddy drives an Aston Martin Vantage, a 2009 bought used. He has had it quite a few years now (7?) with little to no issues. Had he listened to the Internet he would have missed out on many years of the great experiences he has had with the vehicle, and the many many more he is planning to have. It is an incredible car. I too have done a lot of research on this car, and I’m not seeing anything of tremendous concern. All cars have problems, and I see no indications that this car is hugely problematic. I also have the added advantage of someone I trust with deep knowledge of vehicles (deeper than mine) telling me that these cars are pretty flushed out at this point. He drives one himself and has close relationships with many mechanics who tell him they are very sound vehicles. This gentleman used to own/finance a racing team in Montreal, Canada. His peeps in those circles are telling him they are good vehicles. I get the general concerns around Jag of the past, but this particular vehicle is supposed to be pretty worked out at this point on the whole. Ferrari and Porsches. They have their issues too, and none are cheap. As for Corollas, my wife has one for commuting. Brakes, oil, and tires. It’s 11 years old. Drive what ya like, but I honestly do not see what you are going on about with respect to the F-type based on everything that I have read.
Steenjensen, I don't have an F type, but I do have an XKR with the same 5.0L engine. It is my daily driver for the past 10 years and has 200,000 miles now. Without question, it's the most reliable car I've ever owned in 55 years of driving. It's been tracked many dozens of times, so it's not babied. Assuming the F type would share a lot of the XKR's characteristics, I don't think you could find a more reliable car from any manufacturer in any class of automobile. Certainly, you won't find any competing sports cars that can make the reliability claim in comparison.
Have a 2017 f type R in British racing green. Just got it used from JLR out of Michigan sight unseen off of Carfax, 17k on the Odometer. Drove it a few times what a thrill and fun ride. It goes in the garage for the winter. In New York State. Its my dream car. So comes out on sunny warm days. Keep it on a good battery maintainer. Not one regret its a work of art in every way. Its not a daily driver for me I will leave that for my Mazda cx5. Ill never get a battery toy car.
I have a 2015 F-Type R with 73k miles...no issues.
Very nice indeed
Sounds awesome. Great classic color and I agree, these cars are a work of art. Nothing else out there like them.
I love your analogy of the neutered mannequin.
I’ve had my 2014 V6 S convertible for going on 5 years now. I’ve had only 1 “problem” and zero reliability issues. Albeit the problem was significant (coolant pipes burst… but the shop was literally a block away, so all good). Otherwise, only regular maintenance and new tires… awesome car.
That’s good to hear for sure that it has held up
2015 V6 Coupe, 55k miles, used as my daily for the past three years, not a single issue, so gets my vote for reliability. Serviced annually, new rear tyres every 25k miles, and one top up with premium fuel about once a month (ie when I remember!) to clean the engine, other than that, it looks after itself. Love it to bits!!!
Enjoy the 450, it should be an amazing car! Short answer on fuel is it depends where you are based, as there are different fuel measuring systems!
Let's start with Jaguar’s official statement, to “Use high quality fuel with detergent that meets the specification defined by EN228, WWFC5 cat. 5 or the national equivalent. Low quality fuel can damage the engine and reduce engine performance” … looking that little lot up, the EN228 standard specifies 95 RON, and WWFC5 category 5 includes 95 and 98 RON.
So, here in the UK, where we label fuel using the RON system, we have Standard 95 RON and Super / Premium 97 RON, so we can happily use either … as we suffer sub-zero (Centigrade/Celsius) temperatures (it is January!!) and pay an average of £1.50 a litre for petrol, while we look forwards to warmer drier motoring in the spring!
Meanwhile the USA uses the AKI (R+M)/2 measurement system, where 95 RON is about 91, so the way I read it, US friends will want to stick to premium fuel labelled as 91 or higher where they can … as they enjoy temperatures measured in Fahrenheit, and pay almost half what we pay for gasoline at an average of 3.35 US$ per Gallon.
Either way, happy motoring!
100 percent
Awesome that about summarizes my experience as well. I also only use premium fuel.
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Do you still have it? Any issues so far?
I autocrossed an F type. TOTALLY amazing to drive. Loved it!
Did you find it handled well.?
150k miles on my 2014 6 cylinder convertible. At 90k miles had leaks in all my water hoses. Before that had a couple bad oxygen sensors and one vacuum leak in a cracked hose. I would say it’s a reliable car. Lots of freeway miles in Los Angeles area.
150000 miles is solid either way and a few coolant hoses can be a pain but a relatively minor issue.
Just bought my f type s and I absolutely love it! I hope I have a very good experience with the reliability but so far it’s been a dream!
Thanks for another great video, Mark. I love my 2017 F-type R, and I consider it at least as well built and reliable as any of my other cars. Waay back before Ford acquired Jaguar, they were crap. Ford changed that, but so many uninformed people continue to assume the reputation from 30 years ago still stands.
One item you didn’t mention is the glorious crackles and pops this car makes when you back off the throttle are so forceful they can potentially shatter the catalytic converters. Jaguar modified later versions of the firmware to tone down the exhaust theatrics to avoid that potential problem. I won’t let them update mine. I’ll take my chances, rather than muffle the god of thunder.
Haha, absolutely I will keep mine like that too. You, me and the rest of the lucky F Type owners know what we have so let the naysayers keep buying their flakey Audis, we know what we have and glad it’s sort of a hidden secret. Have a wonderful week
Yep, no firmware upgrade.
Thanks for posting. I like your definition of "reliability".
Thanks for watching!
I have 2014 V6 F-Type (40K miles). Only issue so far was replacing O2 sensors. Just changed the diff fluids. So far so good. We really love the car.
They are great cars for sure. I am still loving mine too
Awesome, still loving mine as well. They are great. Amazing g to look at, fast, sound great, it checks all the boxes
Mark thanks for the reliability video. I appreciate all your information on the R. I do plan on getting one and probably a low miles 2018 -19 as I understand they have improved plastics over earlier models with the coolant fittings. I had some issues with that kind of thing with a BMW I had which I was able to repair myself.
Glad to help. I have notice thought that many of the coolant fittings are better than BMW and MERC as those have the silky locking plastic ends while these have a more conventional setup.
There is a metal replacement part for the pipe that usually goes wrong
@@cadilluck Are you talking about the coolant fittings under the supercharger? Not an easy fix removing the blower to fix it but yes I have heard about some of the fittings being metal aftermarket offerings.
Mark
Great video, in July 2024 I bought one of the last F Types produced (P450 AWD V8 convertible.)I’m in France touring in it now.I love it, and even managed to fit enough clothing for 10 days for my wife and I.The Boxter 4.0 GTS 718 was my other option but a new one to the same spec is $20,000 more and whilst probably has a better record for reliability still has issues.On the GTS Forum in USA one car with 20,000 miles is on a new engine and it was reported that 160 engines have been replaced under warranty in USA.
As you said , if you drive a Tesla you turn invisible and miss the drama of the Jaguar.
Keep up the excellent videos and let’s see if exotic gasoline cars start to hold their value due to production being stopped.
Fantastic video, Mark. Yes, the Jag is a beautiful beast, for sure.
Thank you very much Wayne
Hi Mark, I was in the market for getting a sport car and was looking at a Corvette which I’ve had in the past but the Jag sounded so great and I was on the fence about it. Listening to your blogs convince me that I made a good solid choice. I love getting in the car taking my time starting it up and hearing that engine rev. And as you say I do look back on my car when I go into a store just to get that extra look. Thanks again and keep up the blogging.
Thanks a lot for the support and for sharing. Which configuration and color did you go with?
@@markholubetz I got a 2014 Jaguar f type r convertible black exterior with white seats all upgrades. Was wondering on a update for the head unit what do you recommend?
You know you love your car when turn back to look at it! I had a Mercedes like that and would look at it when I pulled in my own garage!
My favourite vehicle ever has been a
1986 Land Rover 90 with the 2.5 n/a diesel, none turbo, no frills absolutely basic vehicle! Oh, it had a hardtop with no windows fitted but I did add Power Steering.
It had 85000 km when I got it (52816 miles)
and I sold it at 92500 miles. I called him Maximus since it was an ex mod vehicle and he ran perfectly and NEVER broke down.
He wasn't a toad only vehicle, I did a hell of a lot of extreme off roading, yes even here in darkest deep Yorkshire, uk it still exists if you know where your going.
My point is, if you fall in love with a vehicle, it doesn't matter what folk think and any pit falls you don't care about because it's your baby!
Good video as always Mark, I still want a Tesla but at the moment I'm seriously considering an old Range Rover L322 with a V8TD...am I mad?
Probably but when it bites, you just got to do it!
For sure I totally agree, it should be from your passion and. It really about the latest Tik Tok poster car. Drive what makes you happy and if it’s in your means, I say there is no time like the present. Still waiting to take delivery of my next big car buy too….patience and go what what you know and it should work out in the end…
I know it's not a f-type, but I own a 2018 XE 35T r-sport, and have since upgraded the air intake pipe and filters, lower and upper pulleys, changed out the original cats with sport cat down pipes from Fabspeed, and tuned it through VelocityAP and this machine is outstanding. A truly visceral and dynamic driving experience that sets Jag apart from the 3-series, 5-series, boxster s, c43, audi s4 that I have owned. F-type will definitely be in my future. Great videos. Thanks.
Awesome! Sounds like a real nice set of updates and I have been thinking about similar for the F Type. I do believe these cars are highly underrated.
Im planning to buy one F type. This video was very informative. Thanks for video
You are welcome
Hey Mark, I wish you talked about the expenses dealing with these issues so viewers can have a better understanding of the costs of running this car
Absolutely I can. Thanks for asking
Older clutches are an issue. I think they are up to a “gen 4’. My 2017 is fine so far. Also with the coolant front pipe, many replace more items such as the water pump, expansion tank,…, too. I believe the O2 sensors have a longer warranty, at least in the US.
My alternator did die while I was going from New York to visit my brother in Boston. Not only did AAA come within 45 minutes and I was able to pull off the highway in time, but also the Fairfield jaguar dealership was a mile or two away. Finally the dealer was a mile from the Metro North station, so I could easily get back to Brooklyn while they repaired the car, and of course, go back up to Connecticut easily. My car was very considerate where it broke down.
Haha, as long as they make it convenient. It seems my BMWs weren’t quite as nice on ocassion. There are some things go, and I wonder how much is due to li g sitting time. Weak batteries can influence electrical gremlins and fluids not regularly moving can cause troubles. I k ow many people minimize the use and miles on their cars. Just a thought ….
I mean the coolent pipe, water pump and expansion tank and o2 sensors are anual 70k to 100k tune up that you don't have to worry about.
Had a viper before and now have 2016 F type R. Night and day difference. Can drive it easy or unleash the beast. Creature comforts are also great.
Great choice. The later ones with AWD are much easier yet, but so much more refined Indeed
Another awesome and informative video! I just got my F-type R AWD last week, and it was love at first drive for sure. I've been watching your videos, and it definitely helped me pull the trigger on this dream car. Keep up the great content! 😀👍
Thanks for the great comment. Yes indeed, what magnificent cars these are. Still loving mine after about 3 years.
I have one and love it here in England, I keep the battery on a trickle charger , my car did have a sensor failure and also the switch pack on one side of the steering wheel failed , just done a 2000 mile trip across Europe absolutely loved it , mine also has a fixed spoiler which I think gives it more curb appeal
Thanks for sharing David. Yes these are wonderful cars and little else like them
Unfortunately the 3.0 v6 was the first engine to be produced by the then new factory in Wolverhampton, and as it was their first engine they had to recall pretty much every one produced in the first couple years. Be default this meant pretty much all the first f types produced also had to be recalled. Thankfully they ironed out all the problems on the factory line and I haven’t heard any similar complaints from the outstanding 2.0 i4 or 3.0 i6
Thanks for sharing, and yes you are right, its usually the way by many car brands and the first couple of years is always a bit of a risk as there are always a few bug to work out. Its at a point now though that the cars are more or less in line with most other LUXURY brands for reliability, however these are much nicer cars that most opposition.
I think he's right. My 500kmi accord has lights on but it's a runner!! Srs doesn't hurt anything check engine light is a suggestion when it's straight piped.
Just run it till there is nothing left. Thats how I am going with my old 2003 Ram
@@markholubetz yup I plan on driving it in 2050 it's manual
Hey Mark. I just recently sold my 2013 V6S with 48k miles. Had it 3 years and covered 13k miles. Simply the most fun car I've ever had, but sold it as I was sick of getting a big bill every 6 months. Suspect a lot of the issues were down to it being one of the first cars built and thinking of getting a newer one, but not sure I can bring myself to do so, been financially scarred. So technically, mine was reliable, never broke down, but the quality was terrible. I'm sure I've ranted about this on your channel before, but during my ownership (just 13k miles) it had a new supercharger, water pump, multiple cooling pipes, two O2 sensors, rear subframe bushes replaced, steering wheel buttons replaced, unseized exhaust valves, refurbished the subframe braces, rear camera was always foggy.... I'm,, sure there's much more. I also know the rear diff had a small leak, the door handle was making a terrible noise when cold. Annual servicing was also grating when only doing 4k miles a year. Would love another, but then I read about headlight DRL failures on the 2017 onwards at £3k a pop. Maybe the 2020 cars are better. Such a gamble... Supra with 10 year warranty is appealing.
Hey trinityct11. I live my f type. I would have no prob with another. If I sold. I am so sorry all you have done to yours. But in 40 years of buying autos. I have my favorite brands. And even with that every now and then I get one that I have so much grap going on with it. As a new vehicle that it amazes me. And when I do out the door it goes. Because it is one that no matter what it will always be bad. Your could have been the one that it was born to give probs. And the other way around I have gotten the same make and unreal the service I had with it. I headed to let it go. Like people. Don’t judge all people by one person. We all have our own personality’s. And auto are the same way. If you by talk to it. It will talk back. But how it does will tell you do or don’t. My you always have a blessed ride.
Wow, that does sound like you really experienced the Monday car. Sad to hear. With that, I can’t necessarily suggest taking the dive again, but I know there are many very happy owners and a very unhappy ones with varying degrees of experiences. I have had my car for about 3 years now and still loving it so it sounds really hit and miss. I know what you mean with the Supra, I was scoping one of the new GR units and it potentially comes in a stick now so that is a great option(. With the caveat of a BMW engine). The new Corvettes are intriguing and now the Z06 and a Bubrid model just announced means there are some very cool rides available.
My 2015 S is my daily driver with 120,000 km. I love it but it has required some maintenance: Leaking pinion seal (replaced it), slightly weeping water pump (replaced it), steering wheel buttons (the connectors got corroded somehow), and replacing the air conditioning compressor tomorrow. It would be nice if none of these issues arose, of course, but to me it’s like your beautiful wife has a cold. You’ll still love her and she’ll get over it and still be beautiful. I take care of these things asap before they develop into something that would leave the car on the side of the road. It hasn’t left me on the side of the road, so I guess by definition it’s quite reliable.
Have a 2018 V6S with 37,000 miles on it which I daily drive. Only issue so far was an oxygen sensor which overheated and caused the check engine light to come on. This got fixed by the main dealer for £360 (about $450). Other than that, I run OBD diagnostics on the car regularly and I haven't got any error codes. My overall experience with reliability is very positive, especially compared to German cars I have owned. The satnav is a bit stupid though - it once sent me on a 4 hour journey across Ireland that I probably could have done in 2 if I'd used my phone satnav.
Haha, I agree the navigation is a flop and a bit old school but the rest of the car is so good, it just does not matter to me.
I put in a carplay unit for abotu 400 dollars and it took the place of the nav int he car...wireless too. Now have multiple nav options off the iphone...best option as traffic, weather, and even "voice commands" now work and are updated by apple and that ecosystem....not JLR. Best mod I've made.
My engine was done after 40k miles. And is very well maintained !
Wow, what happened
Still one of my al -time favorite cars, of all the modern ones.
Thanks Kevin, same here
Thank you, all of your videos have been very helpful.
Thank you
A lot of these issues were addressed in the 2018 mondel and newer. Such as the air vent gears, hood vents, and exhaust valves.
The first thing you need for a reliable car is a good engine and then the Transmission, the 5.0 V8 with the ZF box is up there with the best.
Sure the F Type has some day to day issues but you can't drive a Honda Accord like an F type but you can drive the F Type like an Accord and I bet you it would last a lot longer and definitely give you more thrills whilst doing so.
I totally agree. Drive a Honda like that and watch it grenade
@@markholubetz? You can abuse the hell out of Honda.
Thank you for the video, really helpful as I'm getting a used F-type (V6) soon and need to know the problem areas.
Very nice. Good luck on the purchase. These are great cars for fun.
You have a great video blogging voice. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much
Going to see (and hopefully purchase) a 2015 F-TYPE R with low miles tomorrow evening. I've been on the fence, but this video is helping me feel more positive about the choice. Just can't get over how good these look and sound.
Good choice! I am still loving mine too.
Thanks for the reliability video Mark, it covers all the things I've read over the past weeks and hearing it from an actual owner who's got one with almost 60K on the clock adds more validation over just hearing it from people who haven't even hit 20K. Your car is driven, it gets plenty of use, and yet there are no surprises at all in this video - that's incredible and makes me feel less insane for spending the money to have a loaded 2016 V8R shipped to my city for me to test drive and potentially buy in just under 2 weeks.
Thanks for all the informative videos you put out, especially since you live in a colder climate like I do and seem to drive your F-Type as frequently as I plan to (I'm expecting about 5000 miles per year) - I've been going through your videos for a couple of days now and have found them very informative. Hope to join you in the V8R ownership club soon!
Thank you so much for the support and yes, as much as it hurts to pile on the miles, it hurts even more not to use this amazing car and the way I see it, who am I going to save the miles for? The next owner? Even with higher miles, there is still some value, but a huge amazing of experiences and fun. Good luck on the purchase and would love to hear more about it once you get it done. Have a wonderful weekend .
Definitely will do. I fully agree with the idea of enjoying driving an amazing car and not just keeping it as a garage ornament. My late uncle had a 2007 Shelby GT that he drove daily until he sold it to my dad, then my dad daily drove it until he retired and when it comes to me, I intend to drive it plenty as well. That's why I was happy to find the F-Type that I did - it had two accidents within the first year it was on the road, but the miles since tell me it was repaired right and that the blemish on the history just makes it a better deal for someone who is more concerned with getting a great vehicle and is less concerned with eventual resale value. If I like it, I'll keep it for many years.
@@markholubetz Love the look of it even more in-person and every petrolhead that I know loves it, but there's already been a catch. I live in a condo in a rich neighborhood that is primarily an older community, so at 38 I'm the youngster... My condo is next to luxury apartments and a very pricey 55+ community as well... A couple neighbors love it, but there have already been noise complaints due to the volume of the cold start and there have been threats to file a report with the police to have it sound tested due to noise ordinances, which it will definitely fail due to the ritzy neighborhood wanting everything dead quiet... Some people just can't let others have nice things, so I'll regretfully comply and let them hear it's song on the way out... Fortunately I won't be losing much money over this, the dealer is taking it back and refunding everything short of the administrative fees, so hopefully I can find another in the same color combo in a couple of years, after I move out of this condo and buy a proper house. She was a beauty for the short time I got to have her... dark sapphire with the black pack and carbon blade wheels... the right mix of beautiful and aggressive, that extremely addictive exhaust note (I think I only used the radio for a total of 10 minutes since I bought it)... I'm sad to see it go...
Unfortunately, my 2016 R has had more issues than I can even imagine. Coolant leaks, oil leaks, drivetrain grease leak, vacuum seal leaks, front left and right strut bars needed to be replaced, fuse box melted and shorted out the battery and fried it. And I've only had the car for about 2 months. The car has about 50K miles. Everything is fixed now, but pretty worried about what will happen in the future.
Wow, sorry Stephen sounds like a bit of a run. Maybe a Friday car
You bought a lemon my friend
Honestly, most of these issues just sound like common problems that occur as a car ages. There's nothing like chronic valve failure or constant gasket blows. Pretty much everything you listed could be caught with routine maintenance. Its wear and tear fixes.
Thank you for sharing
Ive owned 4 Jags and the problems I have had once the mileage gets up there are the same for ALL cars made in Europe or US. The plastic cooling parts rot. Electronic sensors fail. Ive not owned a Toyota or Honda so I cant say I have firsthand experience to see the difference, but I know I wouldn’t enjoy the driving experience as much as I do in my Jag XFR.
I really enjoy your balanced approach to reviewing your F-Type. I liked your piece on reliability. Reliability is an often talked about issue and often misunderstood even when it comes to vintage Jaguars. You stating that they are no more or less reliable then many other brands is bang on but as an owner of 10 Jaguars, three Porches and four Mercedes. I can tell you that the magic in Jaguars is how you feel in them and the fact that for road cars, they do everything well. My 2024 Porsche Spyder RS is for sure a superior track weapon but on city streets where it’s irresponsible to try and find a cars limits. I never get to the point where its advantages shine but I do experience some of the short comings as an all rounder in contrast to Jaguar luxury and ride comfort while still being competent canyon carvers. Don’t get me wrong, I am not a one brand guy. I love all vehicles both two and four wheeled but Jaguars have a way of doing what they do and honouring their storied history like few others. I have a F-Type Heritage 60 convertible and when I drive it or even wash it. I can see the DNA from my Series 1 and Series 3 E-Types. Not sure of you ever do reviews on the west coast or if you only do things locally in Alberta but if you ever want to see a family of important Jaguars I have them. I have a 1956 XK140SE, 1963 MK2, 1967 Series 1 E-type, 1974 Series 3 E-type, 1995 XJS V12, 1996 XJS Celebration Edition, 2006 Van Den Plas, 2010 XKR, 2021 F-type Heritage 60 and a 2023 F-Pace Edition 1988. All in show condition, which brings me to my final point. Even old Jaguars like some of mine are very reliable, “IF” they are properly maintained. The XK engines first used in 1948 were installed in Jaguars all the way to 1994. That engine if lubricated and kept in a proper state of tune, provides tens of thousands of trouble free miles while looking like under bonnet jewelry. Anyway, I like the way you tell it like it is, not over or undersold. Keep it up. Cheers. 🎉
Wow!
I have a 2016 F-Type R. Just crossed over the 50K mark. Best car I ever had, driving and reliability. The only issue I have had is the O2 sensor. Had to replace one of those. I did have a very strange stretch last fall where I had to replace 3 tires do to picking up nails. Actually the first puncture was not a nail. I ran over a Yeti 16oz cup. They found the bottom of the cup, folded in half, inside the tire. Left a two inch slash in the tire. That was the car's first and only tow. Oh yeah, the flat tire kit that comes with the F-Type will not seal a two inch slash in the tire.
Thanks for the videos. I enjoy your channel.
Sounds like some strange luck but overall a solid ownership experience. I agree, I have seen these cars as or more reliable than many BMW, Audi and Benz peers
I swear I see you hold back on the F Type grin at the beginning of this review Mark and your not even driving the thing. Great chat again as always.
Had mine 5 years no real problems apart from the odd niggles, Vent stopped working but put itself right, window scratches that were done under warranty and touch screen stopped working that was sorted by a simple reboot disconnecting the boot (trunk) battery.
Haha, you bet, I truly love my car, glitched and all. Complicated, yet simple, fast, yet comfortable, above all, nothing like it without spending 1/2 mil.
I don't have a F-type but just picked up my 4th Jag 2 months ago. My 1st was a 1983 xj6 that was a basket case but every once in a while it would show you how good it could be. The 2nd is a 1999 XJ VDP that was pretty neglected when I picked it up. I sorted it out over a couple months and then drove the heck out of it for 6 years (currently has 180K miles on it), with only the odd warning light from time to time. The only real problems it had were just little things that were more of a nuisance than anything else. My 2011 XJL is going strong so far only needing a wheel bearing (was bad when I bought it) and the 2017 F-pace just needs a battery as the original is not what it used to be.
All in all I love the brand, and because of the bad rep I feel they are under valued. As one that works on my own stuff I also find that many parts are carried over from other cars making some repairs pretty affordable i.e. rear wheel bearing on the '11 xj is a front bearing for a Honda Accord/Civic across a bunch of years.
I agree, there are such great deals on these cars as they are seriously undervalued. That’s a win for us
These are beautiful cars but Jaguar's are expensive machines to maintain and for those for a true passion for the brand and it's beauty.
You have to be an older gent (like me!) to appreciate it.
Even today, with Jaguars future uncertain, I'd still love to own an XJS.
For sure the XJS is a great car as are most of the unique cars in the marque. It may be a sad day looking back remembering what we USED to drive. Thanks for watching
JayEmm did a great video today talking about the vehicles planned for the next few years from Jaguar, as well as Jag's viability as an ongoing manufacturer.
I will have to check that out
Agree. I am putting metal coolant pipes on mine, a sc snout solid piece to prevent any issues, and put a new agm battery in it (and I drive it a lot)....superb car.
Maintenance is key. Did tranny, diffs, transfer case, oil myself, plugs were done by my mechanic. BG44k to prevent injectior issues...one bottle every 3m (overkill but I can afford it). Best car ever.
Subaru...had two engine blow up on a stock car.
996TT. Coolant pipes and leaking vacuum system.....and tranny went up....2nd gear fork is well known issue in the 996 TT (and probablyt he 997tt manual).
New 911's are VERY tech...engine mounts are issues...over 1k each to fix and you fix in pairs, etc. Dynamic engine mounts.
Bore scoring on scores of porsche cars now.
BMW engines....lots of them seem to self destruct. Some don't.
Mercedes....hugely complex. Off warrany repairs can total a car (a/c on a 300e was 5500 off warranty to change a condensor known to crack...etc.).
Jaguars are really great cars post 2010. Bosch electronics. Leer seats. TRW brakes. Big players make the sytems.....the design is amazing.
You are totally right. The old cars were questionable but anything In recent history is both solid and wonderful to admire and drive. Why buy an RS Audi when these cars exist. Hope you are having a great week.
Yet the Internet just won’t accept any of these endorsements. It’s the strangest thing, but it’s like people will just not let go of the past despite their modern cars being okay (Jag side, not LR). I know people with F-types and XEs and they have been great.
You should, for the fun of it, compare your F-type with the XK from before, since they both have the same chasis, see if there are any similarities and if the F-type was an evolution to the XK or a whole different animal.
Great point indeed, I would love to do a back to back comparison just to see what sort of differences there are. would be intruiging for sure.
My Lexus LC 500 has no issues and will last 10 years no problem and is a gorgeous car in my opinion . 5.0 glorious n/a engine that has ported and direct injection so no intake valve oil migration ever !!!
They are great cars indeed, looks and around are wonderful
You will get bored by the power ..all na engine owners..with turbo 30l or 50l now when you get bored of their power you go stage 2 and you have a different car with 150hp or 200hp plus..with na no chance not even near to that..
Had my 2014 F Type R V8 for 6 years now and not had a SINGLE issue. 25k miles covered. I'll be selling in 2 months time if anyone is interested. Grey, alcantara, carbon fibre kit extras. UK based
What are you looking to replace it with?
@@markholubetz Most likely a Velar but if I'm feeling lightheaded it could be a Defender 110 ;)
Im coming out of a 2018 911. Looking at a new F type R. They are giving great discounts on new F types here in the US ( $25k off msrp ) I just might have to pull the trigger. The car looks way better in person than on video or pics, sooo classy..
Great choice on the Jag and they are awesome machines. With that said why have you decided to walk away from the 911?
@@markholubetz I purchased my 911 new, drove it for 14K miles and sold it at a big profit, the market made me do it. I test drove a new GT3 and was kind of underwhelmed especially for the price. I need something different. The FtR is just stunning in person, especially for the price.
Absolutely agree on the F Type R. I am loving mine and even with its quirks it’s a very cool car in every way.
You can get 25k off on a new 2024 F-type down there?
If this statement is even half true, some clear evidence that the US and CND markets for this car new are VERY different. Discounts here in Canada on 2024s are pretty much non-existent. To be honest, your statement seems to be an exaggeration. If that was at all true the dealers would be under water on the sale. Perhaps maybe on left over 2022s or 2023s, but even then…
I love the F type v8 sound and styling
Same here. This car is just simply awesome.
Yes you do have a beautiful f type
Thanks
I just love the F-type. Thinking about trading in my S5 for one.
Big upgrade to the R.
Hey Mark, great video.
I will get myself a V6 f-type quite soon. Any tips or things to watch out for?
Also, is 100k km too much?
Fuel injection, supercharger isolator coupler and water pipe, especially the Y pipe. Just spent 6000.00 to repair SOME of these and has the car in the shop for 2 months. I wouldn’t. Buy it again.
Great videos, I am planning on getting an F-type next spring, Quick question. Do all of the coupes have the panoramic "Sunroofs?"
Hi John, thanks for joining and great choice on your next car. Actually the roofs come in 3 different formats when going coupe, painted metal, panoramic like mine, or a carbon fibre roof. I personally like the glass as it gives it a nice contrasting look from outside yet gives that brightness from inside.
Great video! You pointed out what reliability means which a lot of people get wrong and mislead others
Absolutely!
I disagree. You can’t redefine the term “reliability” to mean loss of function of the vehicle to get you home. Reliability refers to the all designed functions, so if the door handle fails, it’s unreliable at its intended function. That is a failure. You might still get home (if you can get in), so not catastrophic…but it failed to meet its design intent over a reasonable period of time. And is unreliable in that aspect. If the vehicle as many of these…it becomes classified as Unreliable too.
@@wl660 thing is European car manufacturers fail at reliability with almost everything when compared to Toyotas. My family had both Japanese and European cars and the European cars always had issues. I mean everything from Peugot to Land Rover. I dont understand how some of these reliability scores are achieved when even simple door handles fail more often on European cars. Lets not get to the power trains because thats a whole different league and Japanese cars are miles ahead in terms of reliability. Its embarrasing really.
@@rsKayiira Toyota has a good reputation for reliability. But they lack character, style, & soul…
@@wl660absolutely. Disappointed in mark here. How truly absurd - now the car has to fail to move at all or it’s “reliable” lol.
I think there are owners that are not flustered by a failure and an expensive repair. So an expensive luxury or sports car is not going to disappoint them. But I think there are a lot of owners who are greatly bothered by a failure and an expensive repair bill. And a couple of these failure events will cause them to freak out and lose interest in their expensive car.
I see the same thing happen in luxury homes. Some people have the money to buy an expensive luxury home, but they are totally unprepared for the expensive upkeep. When the big repair bills started hitting their wallet, they are looking for a way out from the game. People need to do their homework and go into these major purchases with both eyes wide open.
Could not have said it better myself. Agree
Love your vids, but reliability to me means anything that requires repairs. I had a 2010 Jaguar XFR and a 1972 Jaguar xj6. Both stunning and comfortable and the XFR was a monster. Both were also total junk. Extremely costly to own and repair and always needing something. They are beautiful cars, and I love seeing them, but I wouldn’t own another one.
Looked at buying one of thease ( in the uk)..I drive a Porsche cayman s. Which I love. Similar probs , sensors water pumps .. but like most cars no two cars are the same , no matter the make ..
That’s true and the Porsche is a great car too. I love the r F Type R with the crazy sound, the looks, and performance is on par with some of the best
Hello! Mark...Just purchased a 2017 F-Type "S" 19" wheels and would like some recommendations for front and rear tires...go with the factory issue or increase size. No track just weekend North Carolina country road "touring."
Hi Michael I have heard of people using different tire options, some of which may may work better in snow or heavy rain but your area is decent most times of the year so I would likely stick with the Pirellis. I likely also would go stock size as well but if you want larger than a wider set of rims are needed with a slightly different offset. For mine I kept it simple and I put a set of spacer “adapters” on stock wheels and tires as I like them better than most aftermarket options. The spacer makes the stance look a little more squared off and fuller in the fenders. Some say the wheel bearings may take a hit but I am not sure there is enough of any impact to that to worry about. I am not. Good luck on the car, should be a ton of fun.
Mark, Thank you. Just made my life a bit more simple.
Mark I feel like I’ve seen a video of yours where you installed the red stripe under your front and rear splitters, but I can’t find it at all. Can you point me in the right direction? Thank you for all of the info, you’re great.
Hi, not sure I showed the install but I did show the finished product when i did it. Easy hour on the driveway and so r UV rated sign vinyl and I was good to go.
@@markholubetz no problem, can you show me where you bought it from??
I have had 2 F-Types. Both 2014 V6S Roadsters. First one did have an issue w the engine. Jag fixed it. I cant remember the issue. My current one has only had one issue. Bad O2 sensors. Fixed for around $500. Dont go to the dealer, they rip you off. For the most part ALL of my cars had issues from time to time.
On the other hand I cant bring myself to buy a LR Defender. Too expensive to buy and fix. I'm nervous about that.
Sounds like a decent experience albeit not perfect that’s about the typical
I have a 2016 F type R and it's been way more reliable then my M4, M5, C63, ferrari California, audi S8 and many other cars I've had. Mine has 134,000 Miles yes MILES! I just did a 4k service for valve cover gaskets, alternator and ALL new fluids, tranny,diff,coolant, Everything And now i'm probably only gonna have to do oil changes for another 40k miles. I'll probably keep it till it hits atleast 200k miles, By then it will only be worth 20 grand so there won't be any point to sell it, so I'll probably drive it into the ground.
That's awesome - I'm at 75k on my 2015 R, and it's been more reliable than any of my S4s, my S5, and the RS5 that I traded for it. Don't even get me started on my E92 M3! As you know, DIY maintenance is extremely simple, and aside from the coolant pipes I haven't had any major issues.
Resale value is awful because of Jaguar's horrible reputation, of course, but the F-Type R is truly one of the best sports car bargains on the market.
Thinking about getting a nearly-new F Type R, wondering which year may have the edge over other recent years. Thinking about the ‘19-‘22 years. Any differentiation?
Hi Doug, really they are all great and can’t go wrong. With that said, the newest is usually the best due to mechanical and tech uodates. I personally needed to have awd but some people like the rwd animal in older models. I still prefer the last of the older generation so that’s what I would suggest, but maybe drive them and see.
Mark thanks again. I love learning little things. I am not one to work on my car but cleaning. And caring for it. But it is important to me to be aware to prevent probs later. Love your videos. And I smile as I drive. Love my f type. Best thing I ever did. I don’t drive it in the winter. But I do go start it. So I ask. To keep my battery great and get its best life. How often do u think I should give it a start.
Hi Ray, yes these cars are impeccable and little line them. As far as battery charging, I would suggest a quality trickle charger and forego random starts regularly as this creates acids within the engine and can actually lead to deterioration. The best thing ultimately is an oil service in the fall and leave the car for the winter and restart only once regularly driving again.
@@markholubetz thanks. That. Is what will be done.
Yesss thankyou for the content
Thanks for the support. Cheers
Is there much difference in reliability berween the production years 2016-2020? When buying a used f type is it better for the car to have had no issue or replacement parts?
later years of a certain generation are almost always better with small things that they have ironed out since the first year. it might seem like a rip-off buying the last year of a certain gen/body style because you are only one model year from the new style. but they are usually the most reliable.
I think a lot of the time peoples’ perception around reliability are often skewed by unrealistic expectations as well. All cars will have issues.
I wonder if he bothered to mention which engines he was referring to, considering it comes with a 2.0, 3.0, and 5.0, with around 7 different levels of performance between the 3.
Jesus, he basically nitpicked issues every car has..ive had a ton of exotics and a f type. The nightmares were the m6, v8 esprit and db9 for me. F type was wonderful. Ferrari maserati DBS also never gave me any problems ever lotus elise exige evora are rock solid. Porsche had issues. F type was solid and one of the most enjoyable cars ive ever owned to drive, truly its shockingly fun to drive.
I do agree, these are great cars and I love my F Type R. All of these cars have nuances but are generally pretty reliable
What is a good mileage to buy these used ? I really want one but I don’t have the money to get an expensive one
I would try to get into one with less than 30 or 40,000 mikes so you can enjoy for a while before some of the bigger maintenance items hit.
2014 Ftype cabrio, had it for 8k miles before sold for something bigger, had no problems except a small hose that corroded.
What did you replace it with ?
@@markholubetz It was my dads car, switch to a 2018 750i now, still plenty fast, nice V8 sound but comfort was the most important factor really. I miss the jag
For the battery issue, you can disconnect the negative terminal if you’re going to let the car sit. It’ll help it not drain.
Great tip, thanks I will have to give it a try
My problem is that I want to buy one and dump miles on one. Like 200k-300 miles. My Genesis coupe has 186k on the original 2.0t.
Good maintenance should keep them running a long time. Solid cars.
what are your thoughts on the f-type svr?
Awesome, it’s a keeper
Great car it’s a strong car the F-type
It really is
I'll have one of these by September or sooner haha
Awesome cars
Is the ingenium petrol engine reliable with the f type ?
Hi Mark, thanks for the informational video, looking to buy a used f type R 2016-19, wanted a hellcat, this car changed my mine, one question how is the driver seat for space? I'm 6"2 wondering if it would be a problem...
Go for it! I would say try a drive in one but I know Jeremy Clarkson is quite tall and fits in the cars so my thoughts are it would fit. I know the Dodge would be roomier but the F Type is a sportier more compact feel.
@@markholubetz thank you!
There's a difference between Cosmetic Issues or Engine reliability
Indeed
JAAAAAAAAAAAG ❤️🙏😉
I love this car. They are great
I’m considering a v6 with 60k miles is it worth it
As long as it has good maintenance, and updates. Price is right?
@@markholubetz thanks buddy keep up the great work
@@markholubetz its a 2015 28k usd 3 owners clean carfax
What if you drive the car normally? How much more expensive is it, say, over a Jeep Cherokee? Lol
I WANT ONE SO BAD
2016 V8 R 36k miles, not a single issue so far
Awesome, I am still loving my 2018 as well with 62000 kms
Shhhhhh….yer gonna upset the Internet echo chamber that sees bashing Jag as a tradition and favourite past time. 😮
Questioning reliability for cars cannot be properly determined when testing the majority that have low miles. I mean come-on !!!!
Less than $200.00 for a new battery at Costco. Not really a big deal every five years.
How is Jaguar still in business
It’s interesting
Ehh em not a status or specs nerd or whatever I like it cause of alchemy and looks
Cheers
Fast forward to 12:00 & save 12 mins of your life!
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You certainly have your own peculiar "notion" of reliability!
true
Jag you are!! Not jaag waar !!! (Although I have to admit ,the way you chaps say it sounds waaay cooler 😂)
Have an outline of what you’re going to say currently you’re long winded and time is of the essence 💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎💎
Thanks
@@markholubetz timestamps would be cool too 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Silicon silver?
Carpathian?
I love this car but this video is kinda talking me out of getting one, mabey ill stick to my 2012 mustang gt.
Those are some issues but even car has problems. I still feel there are few other cars like these
Disappointed in mark here. How truly absurd - now the car has to fail to move at all or it’s “reliable” lol. Talk about a low bar! By this standard… yeah…most GM, Chevy cars are just rock solid! 😂
Haha, nice. I still the the F Type and nothing this side of 300K beats it for awesomeness
@@markholubetz haha well ok, I may not agree on the awesomeness scale - but that one is subjective and I can buy your opinion there!
My Grandad had 7 jaguars...he had to sell every single one.
Why did he sell?
So he could buy the next one? 😂
Would you be scared of one of these with 110k miles? I’m looking at a 2015 R with that many.
Geez Mark...I have been thinking about getting one of these but you have talked me out of it. Too many points of failure. Expensive points of failure.
If the things that he talked about here scared you off then performance cars basically are not for you. This stuff is small potatoes in the grand scheme, and certainly relative to other scenarios that you could find yourself in with other vehicles. The message that Mark is trying to convey is that this car is a mature platform with predictable and known trouble spots that COULD crop up. The engine and the transmission are known quantities, and the “pain” points for the car are basically known. The car has basically been unchanged and refined from the beginning. This is the best case scenario for any mechanical device. Perhaps go get a Toyota Corolla GR…lol…In all seriousness, actually not a bad little car 😊
@@dlj1285 I own an early Porsche 997 and Ferrari 575 amongst other sports cars. I do all my own wrenching and am well familiar with "pain points". Every car , even Corolla's , have their weak spots. The question is , how many , how likely to occur and how expensive to fix. I research all these data points before I buy a car. Any car. The f-type seems to have a lot of "possible" failure points which raises the risk.
I guess the ultimate question is how much pain are you willing to risk in relation to how much pleasure that particular car will provide. The ratio works in favor of pleasure for Mark which is all good. Having owned Jaguars in the past I'm a little leery of their reliability.
@Steen Jensen Very well said. It definitely has multiple pain points that could arise. Definitely concern for risk especially with Jaguar's rep of not being super reliable. Seems to have gotten better over the years but there are a lot of little things with this car that can pop up at any moment. At least it's pretty though and I'm sure fun to drive when everything is working properly
@@tonypartridge7085 There are many reports out there of people driving these cars with little to no issues. My buddy drives an Aston Martin Vantage, a 2009 bought used. He has had it quite a few years now (7?) with little to no issues. Had he listened to the Internet he would have missed out on many years of the great experiences he has had with the vehicle, and the many many more he is planning to have. It is an incredible car. I too have done a lot of research on this car, and I’m not seeing anything of tremendous concern. All cars have problems, and I see no indications that this car is hugely problematic. I also have the added advantage of someone I trust with deep knowledge of vehicles (deeper than mine) telling me that these cars are pretty flushed out at this point. He drives one himself and has close relationships with many mechanics who tell him they are very sound vehicles. This gentleman used to own/finance a racing team in Montreal, Canada. His peeps in those circles are telling him they are good vehicles. I get the general concerns around Jag of the past, but this particular vehicle is supposed to be pretty worked out at this point on the whole. Ferrari and Porsches. They have their issues too, and none are cheap. As for Corollas, my wife has one for commuting. Brakes, oil, and tires. It’s 11 years old. Drive what ya like, but I honestly do not see what you are going on about with respect to the F-type based on everything that I have read.
Steenjensen,
I don't have an F type, but I do have an XKR with the same 5.0L engine. It is my daily driver for the past 10 years and has 200,000 miles now. Without question, it's the most reliable car I've ever owned in 55 years of driving. It's been tracked many dozens of times, so it's not babied. Assuming the F type would share a lot of the XKR's characteristics, I don't think you could find a more reliable car from any manufacturer in any class of automobile. Certainly, you won't find any competing sports cars that can make the reliability claim in comparison.
Just a ton of rambling smh
Go to vehicle virgins
Get to the point 6 mins in and nothing meaningful has been said…
And LC 500 Lexus 😂
Nice cars indeed
Ford no longer owns Jaguar…. 1:38
Right….