The Miranda and the Constitution Refit were actually about the same size. While it lacks a separated engineering section, it has a beefy extension on the rear third or so of the saucer that adds roughly the same volume as the Constitution's engineering section, making it only about 10% smaller than the Constitution, by volume (~240,000 m^3 vs ~217,000 m^3). Though she became a light frigate in the 2360s and 70s, when she first entered service in the 2270s, she was very much a Heavy Cruiser, like the Constitution class. My take on it is that the Miranda was meant for filling a similar role to the Constitution, but at shorter ranges - where the Constitution went deep beyond the frontier to chart new space, the Miranda was tasked with charting the gaps in between. The Miranda ultimately being a cheaper though contemporary ship to the Constitution might explain why the Miranda was chosen for mass production in the early 24th century over the Constitution. The Constellation was most likely the Federation equivalent of a Battlecruiser at the time of her launch. By volume, despite not having an engineering section, she is roughly 3 times the size of the Constitution or Miranda class at close to 650,000 m^3, and more heavily armed. The Excelsior is MUCH larger than the Constitution, coming in at around 900,000 m^3 (a little under or over, for the Type-A and Type-B variants, respectively), putting her roughly 4 times the size of the Constitution, and roughly 1/3 larger than the Constellation. She was a beast in her day. I also don't think the Excelsior transwarp experiment failed. It didn't work in ST III because Scotty sabotaged it, not because the drive was inherently faulty (it wouldn't have been installed in such a massive ship if it wasn't proven to work). I think it DID work, but like the "time warp drive" of Pike's era, that just became the new "warp drive", I think the Excelsior's new "trans warp drive" just became the new warp drive (though it did result in an adjustment of the warp factor scale). The Ambassador absolutely is not a Heavy Cruiser. At 2.8 million m^3, she's roughly three times the size of the Excelsior (even the Type-B variant), and seems to have been the first ship to field the new phaser array technology, as well as a slew of other advanced technologies that became common-place in the 24th Century. When she was first put into service (circa early 2320s, based on other Ambassador class registry numbers), she would have been Starfleet's new premier battleship. The Nebula is also not smaller than the Galaxy class, she's actually about the same size (with some minor variations depending on which module is equipped). The Nebula seems to have already been in service when the Galaxy launched, and based on a number of factors, it seems that she was the semi-modular "off the shelf" version to get existing leaps ahead in tech that were fielded in the 2350s into service, while the Galaxy was the bleeding edge high tech version designed to field another round of advancements that were just around the corner. Both the Galaxy and Nebula measure in at ~5.2 million m^3 in volume, and both were the premier battleships of their day. The Sovereign is a powerful ship for her size, but she is NOT as powerful as the Galaxy. At ~2 million m^3, the Sovereign is a Heavy Cruiser, possibly classifiable as a Large Cruiser, which makes her huge for a heavy Cruiser (other Federation Heavy Cruisers of the 2350s-70s measured in at ~1 - 1.5 million m^3), but she's still less than half the total size of the Galaxy. She is slightly longer, but significantly smaller in beam and draft, and has a much slimmer overall profile. She does pack a wallop, especially in torpedo firepower, but while she has more torpedo launchers in total, they are much smaller burst-fire-3 launchers with a single-torp loader each (except for the Q-torp launcher, which appears to have more or higher capacity loaders), while the Galaxy class carries a pair of burst-fire-10 launchers with quadruple loaders that can hold up to 16 torpedoes, in addition to 10 preloaded into the tube, per launcher, giving the Galaxy class a significantly larger opening volley, and likely a higher sustained volley (between her two launchers, the Galaxy class can fuel and arm 32 torpedoes at a time, while the Sovereign can fuel/arm only 5 at a time at launch, possibly 15 after her refit). The Prometheus was an experimental Light Cruiser. At ~661,000 m^3, she was on the larger size of Light Cruiser that Starfleet fielded in the 2360s and 2370s, though a good chunk of that volume was eaten up by redundant systems and structure for the Multi-Vector Assault Mode system, putting her actual functional volume probably closer to that of the Norway (the smallest Light Cruiser fielded by Starfleet at the time). Her tactical abilities are impressive, but she wasn't extremely revolutionary in those areas. Her regenerative shields were impressive, but there are indications that they were also fielded on the Sovereign class before her. Ablative armor also was not new, and been previously fielded on the Defiant class, and based on some commentary, that armor wasn't uniquely developed for the Defiant, it existed before the Defiant was designed. It does seem to have been a relatively new technology, however, and the Prometheus seems to be one of the first ships after the Defiant class to be fully armored in the stuff. The Intrepid class is absolutely NOT half the size of the Galaxy class. She is half the LENGTH, roughly, but in volume (the actual measure of a starship's size), she isn't much more than 1/10th the size of the Galaxy. The Intrepid is ~625,000 m^3 in volume, again making her one of the larger Light Cruisers that Starfleet fielded in the 24th Century (and with her tiny nacelles, she probably had the most functional volume), but she is still just a Light Cruiser. You are also wrong that the Intrepid was designed for deep space exploration. Multiple comments in Voyager note that Voyager was NOT designed for long-range deep space operation, she is a shorter-ranged Light Cruiser meant for relatively local operations. She's a sprinter, not a long-distance runner.
I'd like to see a progressive comparison of all the ships named Enterprise from the NX-01 onward, highlighting the advances in design over the centuries.
@@housecoatgamingshe took out 12 jemhadar fighters in a single engagement, a galaxy class ship was destroyed by one, she also managed to fight a birg cube for 3 hours, Work 359 , 39 ships destroyed in 11 minutes, she is certainly better that a constellation,
@@shanenolan5625 The USS Odyssey was initially holding back, looking to send a message with her presence but not escalate to a full blown conflict by destroying Dominion ships. She was caught off guard by the Domion's phased polaron beams completely bypassing their shields, and then was killed by a Jem'Hadar attack ship that self-destructed while ramming her engineering section (the attack ship turns into a giant ball of plasma just before she strikes the Odyssey). In different circumstances, the Galaxy proved more than capable of holding her own with some examples showing Galaxies trucking through and shrugging off multiple hits that individually gutted lesser ships, and other times we see her gutting much larger ships with casual back-hand slaps from her main phaser array. The loss of the Odyssey is a unique case where the Dominion were able to take advantage of the Federation's attempts to engage in controlled escalation, because the Federation critically underestimated the hostility of the Dominion, and the lengths they were willing to go to. Oh, and that Battle of Sector 001 most likely lasted 3 days, not 3 hours, based on the time it would have taken the Enterprise to get to Earth from her location along the Romulan Neutral Zone, and the time it would have taken the Cube and the fleet to get to Earth from the reported initial engagement point and the reported speed of the Cube. It would have been a 3-day running fight, with many ships engaging and disengaging against the Cube. The Defiant, with her slower warp engines, likely spent most of that running fight in pursuit, with only limited windows of sprinting ahead to close range and engage before she had to drop back or burn her engines out (many older Federation ships probably did the same, and one of the reasons why we mostly only saw newer ships in that fight is that any older ships in the original fleet or joining partway through likely fell out of the fight entirely due to burning out their engines trying to keep up). Oh, it's also worth noting that the Cube in the First Contact was much smaller than the Cube in Best of Both Worlds. The BoBW Cube was just over 3000 m on a side (making it ~27,000,000,000 m^3 in volume), while the First Contact Cube was about significantly smaller, closer to 1,000 m on a side (or 1,000,000,000 m^3, roughly 1/27th the size).
I've always felt the Prometheus was under rated. People want it to be some dreadnought; it isn't, it's a "deep space tactical" ship. It's the ideal ship to send behind enemy lines and harras logistics. Attack 3 three neighboring systems at once, attack multiple targets in a system, then turn into a single ship and dart out. It's a 24th century U boat wolf pack.
Yeah, the Prometheus is kind of a limited-use type ship. MVAM isn't a wonderweapon that will turn the tide of a battle, it's a tool that can allow a single ship, operating independently, to split in 3 and take on multiple tasks in 3 different locations, with a heavy lean towards the tactical side as a light raider. She's roughly 661,000 m^3, and by total volume the largest Light Cruiser that Starfleet fielded in the 2350s-2370s, but a lot of volume would be taken up by redundant systems and structures, putting her functional volume probably closer to that of a Norway or Cheyenne (both a little over 500,000 m^3). Split into 3, each section is, on average, a little smaller than a Saber class. Putting a bunch of the latest tactical systems in one package gives her a good punch for a ship her size, even with the loss of volume due to redundant systems and structures, and when operating as a single vessel those quad nacelles give her a lot of zip, but the Intrepid and Steamrunner (both within 40,000 m^3 of the Prometheus) are probably better Light Cruisers once those technologies are refit across the fleet, and a lot cheaper to boot. That makes the Prometheus flashy, and uniquely suited for a limited number of tasks, but not particularly capable overall.
Seeing that you have deep understanding of Star Wars concepts and have knowledge of both Star Trek and Star Wars, I would like you to do a video(s) about situations in which concepts from one can be applied to situation of the other. Because, contrary to popular bielifs, this is quite often the case. The first one is Kes from Star Trek Voyager. I would like you to compare her powers to the use of the Force, to compare the impact of them onto her to the impact of the Force and answer a question: Can Kes's behavior in episode “Fury” be explained as her basically having fallen to the Dark Side? Because she clearly taps into emotions that propel the Dark Side, use her abilities in a way that Dark Side users do, have many abilities like the Dark Siders do, fight in a similar way as Maul did, for example, in the last two episodes of the Clone Wars, her appearance is initially corrupted in a similar way as Dark Sidious is (as other Dark Side users), yet she uses her abilities to change her appearance back into normal (which the Dark Side users are known to do), cares only about herself (even helping her past version is only to help herself), says about forgetting (which Dark Sides often causes). There is even a small detail that is often seen in Dark Sides users: when she kills B’Elanna Torres, she glares at her as if it was personal (as if in jealousy over Paris, as she may remember their marriage from alternate timeline in “Before and after”, but, in the past, has no qualms over leaving Tom to die from the Vidians. This is, of course, something seen often in these fallen to the Dark Side. But even before she showed traits that would alert the Jedi: in Tuvix, she clearly stated that she was willing to have Tuvix killed so she could have Neelix back, a clear sign of deep emotional attachment. She suffered a lot, which often pushes people toward the Dark Side. She was clearly willing to use all her power against Tieran. All while her powers are clearly similar to being a Force sensitive. Even the basic of it, a connection to the basic structure of the matter/universe, is similar. If that all is true, then Kes history can even be a great example why the Jedi avoided attachments. The second thing is: the application of Jedi philosophy to Trip/T’Pol relationship in Star Trek: Enterprise. In episode E2, T’Pol do accuse Trip of being “unable to have sexual relations without forming emotional attachment”. This certainly sounds like something similar to the Jedi, who are known for forbidding attachments but allowing sex. Of course, these two formed an unhealthy emotional attachment that did led to suffering like Jedi are warning. But still, in Home, Tucker let her go. Many fana take issues with his behavior there, and think it would be better for Trip to challenge and fight Koss (and we know from Voyager episode “Blood Fever” that it was possible). But here is the thing: in my analysis, Trip could defeat Koss, but only by drawing onto this attachment and unhealthy emotions that come from it. From his fear that he would suffer if he lost her, from his anger at Koss from trying to take her away, his hate for him for that. All things that are related to the Dark Side. It would be because of him, and thus would affect him that way. Letting go was selfless. In that, he is the opposite of Anakin Skywalker. And then there is the matter of the Vulcans as a whole. Many people see them as similar to the Jedi, but they are not. In fact, in some cases, they are opposite. The Vulcans also control their emotions, but in a more suppressive way than the Jedi do. And then, there is the matter of attachments. While they avoid it most of the time, one element of the Vulcan culture encourages attachments. And not only simple attachments, but their worst form - possessions. I am talking about their arranged marriages. Such things in general encourage possession, but, what makes matters worse, is that one person there, usually male, may see the other as possession that they did nothing to earn. That they have as their own property by the very fact of their existence and birthplace. It should not be hard to explain why it is toxic, and entirely against the Jedi philosophy. Especially that people may be encouraged fight to the death, to kill to maintain their possession. Then, there the matter of leaving. Everyone can leave the Jedi Order. These people are not criticized for it. If they had problems, this is even secretly encouraged. But Vulcans, especially pre - Federation? They do not want Vulcans to leave their civilization. Civilization that condones and encourages toxic attachments, interfering with the most personal part of one's life, and not to help them but to help themselves. Civilization that clearly think themselves as superior to others and practice a form of “genetic purity”. I would call such civilization ”totalitarian”. Just look at all the problems T’Pol had for wanting to do what she wants, not what she is told. Her civilization was even willing to, at least, turn, a blind eye on people using coercion to force a woman to consent to a marriage. I think the Jedi would, at the very least, strongly disagree. I would really like you to analyze these Star Trek situations from the point of view of Star Wars and the Jedi philosophy.
The Miranda and the Constitution Refit were actually about the same size. While it lacks a separated engineering section, it has a beefy extension on the rear third or so of the saucer that adds roughly the same volume as the Constitution's engineering section, making it only about 10% smaller than the Constitution, by volume (~240,000 m^3 vs ~217,000 m^3).
Though she became a light frigate in the 2360s and 70s, when she first entered service in the 2270s, she was very much a Heavy Cruiser, like the Constitution class. My take on it is that the Miranda was meant for filling a similar role to the Constitution, but at shorter ranges - where the Constitution went deep beyond the frontier to chart new space, the Miranda was tasked with charting the gaps in between. The Miranda ultimately being a cheaper though contemporary ship to the Constitution might explain why the Miranda was chosen for mass production in the early 24th century over the Constitution.
The Constellation was most likely the Federation equivalent of a Battlecruiser at the time of her launch. By volume, despite not having an engineering section, she is roughly 3 times the size of the Constitution or Miranda class at close to 650,000 m^3, and more heavily armed.
The Excelsior is MUCH larger than the Constitution, coming in at around 900,000 m^3 (a little under or over, for the Type-A and Type-B variants, respectively), putting her roughly 4 times the size of the Constitution, and roughly 1/3 larger than the Constellation. She was a beast in her day.
I also don't think the Excelsior transwarp experiment failed. It didn't work in ST III because Scotty sabotaged it, not because the drive was inherently faulty (it wouldn't have been installed in such a massive ship if it wasn't proven to work). I think it DID work, but like the "time warp drive" of Pike's era, that just became the new "warp drive", I think the Excelsior's new "trans warp drive" just became the new warp drive (though it did result in an adjustment of the warp factor scale).
The Ambassador absolutely is not a Heavy Cruiser. At 2.8 million m^3, she's roughly three times the size of the Excelsior (even the Type-B variant), and seems to have been the first ship to field the new phaser array technology, as well as a slew of other advanced technologies that became common-place in the 24th Century. When she was first put into service (circa early 2320s, based on other Ambassador class registry numbers), she would have been Starfleet's new premier battleship.
The Nebula is also not smaller than the Galaxy class, she's actually about the same size (with some minor variations depending on which module is equipped). The Nebula seems to have already been in service when the Galaxy launched, and based on a number of factors, it seems that she was the semi-modular "off the shelf" version to get existing leaps ahead in tech that were fielded in the 2350s into service, while the Galaxy was the bleeding edge high tech version designed to field another round of advancements that were just around the corner.
Both the Galaxy and Nebula measure in at ~5.2 million m^3 in volume, and both were the premier battleships of their day.
The Sovereign is a powerful ship for her size, but she is NOT as powerful as the Galaxy. At ~2 million m^3, the Sovereign is a Heavy Cruiser, possibly classifiable as a Large Cruiser, which makes her huge for a heavy Cruiser (other Federation Heavy Cruisers of the 2350s-70s measured in at ~1 - 1.5 million m^3), but she's still less than half the total size of the Galaxy. She is slightly longer, but significantly smaller in beam and draft, and has a much slimmer overall profile. She does pack a wallop, especially in torpedo firepower, but while she has more torpedo launchers in total, they are much smaller burst-fire-3 launchers with a single-torp loader each (except for the Q-torp launcher, which appears to have more or higher capacity loaders), while the Galaxy class carries a pair of burst-fire-10 launchers with quadruple loaders that can hold up to 16 torpedoes, in addition to 10 preloaded into the tube, per launcher, giving the Galaxy class a significantly larger opening volley, and likely a higher sustained volley (between her two launchers, the Galaxy class can fuel and arm 32 torpedoes at a time, while the Sovereign can fuel/arm only 5 at a time at launch, possibly 15 after her refit).
The Prometheus was an experimental Light Cruiser. At ~661,000 m^3, she was on the larger size of Light Cruiser that Starfleet fielded in the 2360s and 2370s, though a good chunk of that volume was eaten up by redundant systems and structure for the Multi-Vector Assault Mode system, putting her actual functional volume probably closer to that of the Norway (the smallest Light Cruiser fielded by Starfleet at the time). Her tactical abilities are impressive, but she wasn't extremely revolutionary in those areas. Her regenerative shields were impressive, but there are indications that they were also fielded on the Sovereign class before her. Ablative armor also was not new, and been previously fielded on the Defiant class, and based on some commentary, that armor wasn't uniquely developed for the Defiant, it existed before the Defiant was designed. It does seem to have been a relatively new technology, however, and the Prometheus seems to be one of the first ships after the Defiant class to be fully armored in the stuff.
The Intrepid class is absolutely NOT half the size of the Galaxy class. She is half the LENGTH, roughly, but in volume (the actual measure of a starship's size), she isn't much more than 1/10th the size of the Galaxy. The Intrepid is ~625,000 m^3 in volume, again making her one of the larger Light Cruisers that Starfleet fielded in the 24th Century (and with her tiny nacelles, she probably had the most functional volume), but she is still just a Light Cruiser. You are also wrong that the Intrepid was designed for deep space exploration. Multiple comments in Voyager note that Voyager was NOT designed for long-range deep space operation, she is a shorter-ranged Light Cruiser meant for relatively local operations. She's a sprinter, not a long-distance runner.
Defiant class and Nebula class vessels. The Akira too.
Some of those images didn’t match the ships you were discussing in the beginning.
I'd like to see a progressive comparison of all the ships named Enterprise from the NX-01 onward, highlighting the advances in design over the centuries.
No Defiant?!
That's a tough little ship!
Overrated go-kart is overrated.
@@housecoatgamingshe took out 12 jemhadar fighters in a single engagement, a galaxy class ship was destroyed by one, she also managed to fight a birg cube for 3 hours,
Work 359 , 39 ships destroyed in 11 minutes, she is certainly better that a constellation,
@@shanenolan5625 The USS Odyssey was initially holding back, looking to send a message with her presence but not escalate to a full blown conflict by destroying Dominion ships. She was caught off guard by the Domion's phased polaron beams completely bypassing their shields, and then was killed by a Jem'Hadar attack ship that self-destructed while ramming her engineering section (the attack ship turns into a giant ball of plasma just before she strikes the Odyssey).
In different circumstances, the Galaxy proved more than capable of holding her own with some examples showing Galaxies trucking through and shrugging off multiple hits that individually gutted lesser ships, and other times we see her gutting much larger ships with casual back-hand slaps from her main phaser array.
The loss of the Odyssey is a unique case where the Dominion were able to take advantage of the Federation's attempts to engage in controlled escalation, because the Federation critically underestimated the hostility of the Dominion, and the lengths they were willing to go to.
Oh, and that Battle of Sector 001 most likely lasted 3 days, not 3 hours, based on the time it would have taken the Enterprise to get to Earth from her location along the Romulan Neutral Zone, and the time it would have taken the Cube and the fleet to get to Earth from the reported initial engagement point and the reported speed of the Cube.
It would have been a 3-day running fight, with many ships engaging and disengaging against the Cube. The Defiant, with her slower warp engines, likely spent most of that running fight in pursuit, with only limited windows of sprinting ahead to close range and engage before she had to drop back or burn her engines out (many older Federation ships probably did the same, and one of the reasons why we mostly only saw newer ships in that fight is that any older ships in the original fleet or joining partway through likely fell out of the fight entirely due to burning out their engines trying to keep up).
Oh, it's also worth noting that the Cube in the First Contact was much smaller than the Cube in Best of Both Worlds. The BoBW Cube was just over 3000 m on a side (making it ~27,000,000,000 m^3 in volume), while the First Contact Cube was about significantly smaller, closer to 1,000 m on a side (or 1,000,000,000 m^3, roughly 1/27th the size).
I've always felt the Prometheus was under rated. People want it to be some dreadnought; it isn't, it's a "deep space tactical" ship. It's the ideal ship to send behind enemy lines and harras logistics. Attack 3
three neighboring systems at once, attack multiple targets in a system, then turn into a single ship and dart out. It's a 24th century U boat wolf pack.
Yeah, the Prometheus is kind of a limited-use type ship. MVAM isn't a wonderweapon that will turn the tide of a battle, it's a tool that can allow a single ship, operating independently, to split in 3 and take on multiple tasks in 3 different locations, with a heavy lean towards the tactical side as a light raider.
She's roughly 661,000 m^3, and by total volume the largest Light Cruiser that Starfleet fielded in the 2350s-2370s, but a lot of volume would be taken up by redundant systems and structures, putting her functional volume probably closer to that of a Norway or Cheyenne (both a little over 500,000 m^3). Split into 3, each section is, on average, a little smaller than a Saber class.
Putting a bunch of the latest tactical systems in one package gives her a good punch for a ship her size, even with the loss of volume due to redundant systems and structures, and when operating as a single vessel those quad nacelles give her a lot of zip, but the Intrepid and Steamrunner (both within 40,000 m^3 of the Prometheus) are probably better Light Cruisers once those technologies are refit across the fleet, and a lot cheaper to boot. That makes the Prometheus flashy, and uniquely suited for a limited number of tasks, but not particularly capable overall.
Is this Geetsly's new channel? The voice sounds very familiar. I love both Star Wars and Star Trek. Especially the ships/vessels.
Might be an AI voice clone
Seeing that you have deep understanding of Star Wars concepts and have knowledge of both Star Trek and Star Wars, I would like you to do a video(s) about situations in which concepts from one can be applied to situation of the other. Because, contrary to popular bielifs, this is quite often the case.
The first one is Kes from Star Trek Voyager. I would like you to compare her powers to the use of the Force, to compare the impact of them onto her to the impact of the Force and answer a question: Can Kes's behavior in episode “Fury” be explained as her basically having fallen to the Dark Side? Because she clearly taps into emotions that propel the Dark Side, use her abilities in a way that Dark Side users do, have many abilities like the Dark Siders do, fight in a similar way as Maul did, for example, in the last two episodes of the Clone Wars, her appearance is initially corrupted in a similar way as Dark Sidious is (as other Dark Side users), yet she uses her abilities to change her appearance back into normal (which the Dark Side users are known to do), cares only about herself (even helping her past version is only to help herself), says about forgetting (which Dark Sides often causes). There is even a small detail that is often seen in Dark Sides users: when she kills B’Elanna Torres, she glares at her as if it was personal (as if in jealousy over Paris, as she may remember their marriage from alternate timeline in “Before and after”, but, in the past, has no qualms over leaving Tom to die from the Vidians. This is, of course, something seen often in these fallen to the Dark Side. But even before she showed traits that would alert the Jedi: in Tuvix, she clearly stated that she was willing to have Tuvix killed so she could have Neelix back, a clear sign of deep emotional attachment. She suffered a lot, which often pushes people toward the Dark Side. She was clearly willing to use all her power against Tieran. All while her powers are clearly similar to being a Force sensitive. Even the basic of it, a connection to the basic structure of the matter/universe, is similar. If that all is true, then Kes history can even be a great example why the Jedi avoided attachments.
The second thing is: the application of Jedi philosophy to Trip/T’Pol relationship in Star Trek: Enterprise. In episode E2, T’Pol do accuse Trip of being “unable to have sexual relations without forming emotional attachment”. This certainly sounds like something similar to the Jedi, who are known for forbidding attachments but allowing sex. Of course, these two formed an unhealthy emotional attachment that did led to suffering like Jedi are warning. But still, in Home, Tucker let her go.
Many fana take issues with his behavior there, and think it would be better for Trip to challenge and fight Koss (and we know from Voyager episode “Blood Fever” that it was possible). But here is the thing: in my analysis, Trip could defeat Koss, but only by drawing onto this attachment and unhealthy emotions that come from it. From his fear that he would suffer if he lost her, from his anger at Koss from trying to take her away, his hate for him for that. All things that are related to the Dark Side. It would be because of him, and thus would affect him that way. Letting go was selfless. In that, he is the opposite of Anakin Skywalker.
And then there is the matter of the Vulcans as a whole. Many people see them as similar to the Jedi, but they are not. In fact, in some cases, they are opposite. The Vulcans also control their emotions, but in a more suppressive way than the Jedi do.
And then, there is the matter of attachments. While they avoid it most of the time, one element of the Vulcan culture encourages attachments. And not only simple attachments, but their worst form - possessions. I am talking about their arranged marriages. Such things in general encourage possession, but, what makes matters worse, is that one person there, usually male, may see the other as possession that they did nothing to earn. That they have as their own property by the very fact of their existence and birthplace. It should not be hard to explain why it is toxic, and entirely against the Jedi philosophy. Especially that people may be encouraged fight to the death, to kill to maintain their possession.
Then, there the matter of leaving. Everyone can leave the Jedi Order. These people are not criticized for it. If they had problems, this is even secretly encouraged. But Vulcans, especially pre - Federation? They do not want Vulcans to leave their civilization. Civilization that condones and encourages toxic attachments, interfering with the most personal part of one's life, and not to help them but to help themselves. Civilization that clearly think themselves as superior to others and practice a form of “genetic purity”. I would call such civilization ”totalitarian”. Just look at all the problems T’Pol had for wanting to do what she wants, not what she is told. Her civilization was even willing to, at least, turn, a blind eye on people using coercion to force a woman to consent to a marriage. I think the Jedi would, at the very least, strongly disagree.
I would really like you to analyze these Star Trek situations from the point of view of Star Wars and the Jedi philosophy.
Proton torpedoes made by Krupx Munitions Company? Hehehe
Um... Akria-class and Defiant Class???
Do an detailed review on the voyager intrepid class.
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Wow the Titan became the Enterprise I would like to hear more on that story excellent video and have a good day 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊.
Actually, the fastest speed recorded in Star Trek was warped 13 till they change the whole warp thing with they should not have done in my opinion
I'm sorry but I prefer it being called the Constitution Refit instead of the Constitution II
the constitution 3 class is an abomination i hate that they made it the new enterprise g