Isn't it kinda funny that the Federation banned augmentations to the human genome but in TNG: Unnatural Selection Scientist created literal augments with the same vision scientists had on earth but the resulting augments being a massive danger by simply being near them and coughing a couple of times.
If they augmented everyone then you're probably right but they could just remain a minority and rule as an elite class were everyone else does the labour etc much like what the Son'a did to the tarlak and elura(not sure on spelling) primative species' that served them
Probably, since in the episodes of the Enterprise series where they were chasing a group of augmented people, there is a conversation in which it is mentioned that precisely those improvements did not only include physical and mental ones, but that others such as ambition or aggressiveness could not be eliminated, which gave them part of the advantage over normal humans, and that is why they embarked on wars and tried to dominate the world. If it weren't for the fact that it is mentioned that the Terran empire has been like this for thousands of years, one could imagine that both realities separated when in one of them, the augmented ended up dominating the planet and that is why humans are like this in that Universe. Thus, the alternative versions of the characters from the main universe would have been stronger, smarter, more aggressive and treacherous.
One can only wondered what drove those scientists to create the Augments in the first place. If I have to guess, conflicts in the Middle East and the Balkans? Also, will it make much of a different for the story of Star Trek as a whole if the Augments were the ones being subjugated and used in warfare like how Marley used the Subjects of Ymir in wars of expansion as normal soldiers and Titans in Attack on Titan?
There would be no problem with the mythology of the original series if, instead of trying to adjust the events to what happens in our universe, they went down the path of treating Star Trek as an alternate reality. That way they could explore the events of the Eugenics Wars by setting it in the 1970s and not have to justify it with manipulations of the timeline.
Truth is when it really comes to the federation succeeding that's mostly because the plot says so what would actually happen in an actual realistic scenario based on our own actual history? Personally I don't really believe that the actual federation could actually exist because it basically requires everybody to be saints and for people to basically work for free what a bunch of made up technology that doesn't really exist in the real world that we can't count on it actually existing. The real question is if augmentation had been a popular thing that almost everybody had if not everyone would it have worked out better because you know you wouldn't have had the automatically I think I'm better because I have been augmented in you haven't but when everybody has you're just another person. But you have the benefits of now everybody is smarter now which means they might be able to solve problems that on augmented people can't
The premise of the augmented is that they ended up rebelling against society because they considered themselves superior to those who are not like them. And they went from being part of society to wanting to dominate it and even eliminate the non-augmented. At no point is it said that the improvements were available to everyone. It is possible that they were reserved for an elite and the rest were treated as "unworthy" of being improved. An ideology very similar to a certain one that dominated Germany last century...It's easy to fall into that kind of ideology when it's not just a belief but a fact that they are better than the rest of humanity. And also as a consequence the rest of the world would turn against them to the point of exterminating them or as in this case, banning that kind of experiments. At no point is it mentioned what they did with the augmented when they were defeated.
Isn't it kinda funny that the Federation banned augmentations to the human genome but in TNG: Unnatural Selection Scientist created literal augments with the same vision scientists had on earth but the resulting augments being a massive danger by simply being near them and coughing a couple of times.
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I love how Strange New Worlds and Prodigy brought the augments back to spotlight
Dude you have an amazing channel. I know it's relatively early but you deserve so .any more views.
Yes, more Khantent with discussions like this please.
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Great intake on the augments & Khan yes I would love to here more
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I wonder if the augments would have ruled would it have been like the mirror universe but just in the prime timeline 🤔
If they augmented everyone then you're probably right but they could just remain a minority and rule as an elite class were everyone else does the labour etc much like what the Son'a did to the tarlak and elura(not sure on spelling) primative species' that served them
Probably, since in the episodes of the Enterprise series where they were chasing a group of augmented people, there is a conversation in which it is mentioned that precisely those improvements did not only include physical and mental ones, but that others such as ambition or aggressiveness could not be eliminated, which gave them part of the advantage over normal humans, and that is why they embarked on wars and tried to dominate the world. If it weren't for the fact that it is mentioned that the Terran empire has been like this for thousands of years, one could imagine that both realities separated when in one of them, the augmented ended up dominating the planet and that is why humans are like this in that Universe. Thus, the alternative versions of the characters from the main universe would have been stronger, smarter, more aggressive and treacherous.
One can only wondered what drove those scientists to create the Augments in the first place. If I have to guess, conflicts in the Middle East and the Balkans?
Also, will it make much of a different for the story of Star Trek as a whole if the Augments were the ones being subjugated and used in warfare like how Marley used the Subjects of Ymir in wars of expansion as normal soldiers and Titans in Attack on Titan?
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Great video. It sounds like the geneticists who created the Augments were practicing something between nazism and fascism
I want complete reboot to the original series. In the original series they much of history before world war 3. Nor much from the post nuclear era.
There would be no problem with the mythology of the original series if, instead of trying to adjust the events to what happens in our universe, they went down the path of treating Star Trek as an alternate reality. That way they could explore the events of the Eugenics Wars by setting it in the 1970s and not have to justify it with manipulations of the timeline.
@ yes.
Truth is when it really comes to the federation succeeding that's mostly because the plot says so what would actually happen in an actual realistic scenario based on our own actual history? Personally I don't really believe that the actual federation could actually exist because it basically requires everybody to be saints and for people to basically work for free what a bunch of made up technology that doesn't really exist in the real world that we can't count on it actually existing. The real question is if augmentation had been a popular thing that almost everybody had if not everyone would it have worked out better because you know you wouldn't have had the automatically I think I'm better because I have been augmented in you haven't but when everybody has you're just another person. But you have the benefits of now everybody is smarter now which means they might be able to solve problems that on augmented people can't
The premise of the augmented is that they ended up rebelling against society because they considered themselves superior to those who are not like them. And they went from being part of society to wanting to dominate it and even eliminate the non-augmented. At no point is it said that the improvements were available to everyone. It is possible that they were reserved for an elite and the rest were treated as "unworthy" of being improved. An ideology very similar to a certain one that dominated Germany last century...It's easy to fall into that kind of ideology when it's not just a belief but a fact that they are better than the rest of humanity. And also as a consequence the rest of the world would turn against them to the point of exterminating them or as in this case, banning that kind of experiments. At no point is it mentioned what they did with the augmented when they were defeated.
I’m supporting Colonel Greene!