been going through a few of your videos and I gotta say, i found myself really enjoying them. I like the versus idea and seeing it back to back like this. Really enjoy the commentary as well. solid work dude!
as a proud dome stan, i am so happy to see 75% dome here Poor Cradily - it just doesn't have great tools, though rock slide does help early game. I'm proud of Armaldo for it's INCREDIBLE performance though.
It's bulk is so useful but in a solo challenge it definitely holds it back. Once I figured out my Egg move the early game did become way more palatable but lacking a bit of extra oomph really slowed it down. Keep the Dome love coming :)
Had to come back to reply with some stats: Pseudo Showdown peaked at: 70 viewers. Armaldo VS Cradily peaked at: 77 viewers!!!! I loved watching this happen live. Despite being stuck in traffic and having to watch in on my phone. From the passenger seat!
Yeah the VS vids always get a lot of views. Probably twice as much editing, but it's around 3 times the views. Yeah I guess I do analytics now too... Just being a weirdo over here. 🤣
Thank you! I've been enjoying using them. I feel it levels the playing field in these VS style videos - Scyther VS Pinsir would have been SO one-sided without Reversal for Scyther for example
I appreciate it, I'm glad you're enjoying the content! It's blown me away how much I've already learned about this game since starting to make content. I still feel like I know nothing some days!
don't have the time to watch right now, but i did want to pop in and say that cradily is my favorite fossil pokémon! i'm eggcited to see them being used, even if i don't necessarily think they'll win they're still a winner in my heart
Cradily was the nost rage inducing, and satisfying one to solve there is no doubt. Such a fun second playthrough! I hope that once you get a chance you'll enjoy the runs :)
@@Eggsceptional i did, and you did not disappoint! honestly, i'm really impressed with how you managed to make up for its shortcomings, and managed to give it a really solid ranking! this was super fun to watch, as always!
@@somerandomgoblin2583 Glad you liked it, as always :) That HP Flying question will linger a while but that's ok. There are other videos to make first!
SPOILERS So going into this I wanted cradily to win it’s my second favorite fossil behind archeops (i’d worship the plume fossil if I could) however i knew that armaldo was more built for attacking so was better suited for a solo run… and then I realized it got swords dance yeah cradily wasn’t beating that however it did get a very good time and armaldo is hanging out with a bunch of legendaries witch is a funny image this were very fun runs to watch and while seeing mirror coat was fun I wonder how using recover or hp flying might’ve gone oh well you did cradily a time to be proud of also cradily doesn’t get storm drain until gen 5 since it’s there hidden ability
Thank you! I'd considered Recovery quite heavily after giving up on Mirror Coat but Rock Slide accelerated the early game SO much. The HP Flying question will remain lingering for now I'm afraid. You're correct about the Hidden Ability! I did do a poll before asking my viewers of they were fine with me using Hidden Abilities as long as they existed in that Gen. The majority said yes, so Swinub for example could use Thick Fat
Cool video again, looking forward to the Kanto fossils, especially Aerodactyl. I would love to see more version exclusives vs. runs. (Arbok vs Sandslash, Oddish line vs Bellsprout line, Magmar vs Electabuzz, Psyduck line vs Slowpoke line, etc.) :D (I know the line is long, no rush ;) )
I appreciate you being patient with me. I like the version exclusive ideas! I have a bunch of cross generation ones coming up (Arbok VS Seviper, Butterfree VS Beautifly for instance) but I'll get to all of the VS eventually :) eventually....
Great video. One oversight is that you said mirror coat can skip accuracy. I've ran wobbuffet in this game many times and I distinctively remember counter and mirror coat missing after sand attack
@@Eggsceptionalone tip I've got for you is that struggle is going to be your best friend and you will definitely need leftovers for the round 1 league. Plus you'll be switching back and forth between struggle strats and counter and mirror coat strats. Besides most opponents will actually know you have counter and mirror coat and will just straight-up refuse to attack you.
@@Speedrunner0218 That Gen 3 AI is really something isn't it? I'm not looking forward to that Wobbuffet run - sometime in the future. Good tips though thanks :)
eggcellent sir, truly eggcellent, I see why you rage quit with Cradilly, that was rough, but clearly could of been rougher, you ran it well and I think you ran it better than most would of and certainly better than I thought it would do, interesting choice of mirror coat for the egg move, took you a while but you got to make use of it. Armaldo was superb, but sweet Jesus the bad luck with poison, so many resets because of poison, especially poison point and that mankey again, why do I get the feeling that mankey is going to do that to all the fossils, maybe not Aerodactyl as much. I like the movesets you went with for both of them, I'm not surprised with what you did with Armaldo, but I like that you kept water gun and then water pulse for longer, its not a special attacker, but having it just in case was such a wise move, same with Cradilly, going mostly physical, but keeping the grass STAB for special was very effective and great choice of HP psychic for it, it just plowed through the league with it and the champion was such a joke, I love that it found a spot where it had an easy time instead of a painful one and you be nice to the bugs, Armaldo did good and so did Pinsir and Scyther, the bugs will come back and bite you if you're not careful. Parasect and Shedinja will see to that. I had a thought with those 2 for the VS. how about adding in Shuckle for a 3 way VS and see which Gen had the worst bug type, my bet would be Shuckle, you will genuinely hate it with blind passion and rage. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the fossils, have you been dropping hints about how well they're going to do, Kabutops could win it yes, but do not underestimate the Lord Helix
I really wish that I hadn't deleted the footage to at least have added a little excerpt about my pain. A different kind of lesson learned. Even failed runs are good footage :) I'm willing to give a small spoiler for Aerodactyl. When I was on Nugget bridge, cruising through the trainers, outspeeding and one shotting that little !@#$ Mankey put the biggest smile on my face. Dialing in the Cradily run was so satisfying. Going from so so so much pain to a completion where I saved THAT amount of time was the best feeling. I'm still so curious if going with HP Flying and staying with a physical focus would have performed better. Lance would have been way easier with the physical focus that's for sure. It's true!! Scyther and Pinsir outplayed my eggspectations and Armaldo blew them out of the water. Like I said! They're winning me over. Slowly :) I think Helix is going to be the most fun to play honestly because of its synergy with the moveset that I'm thinking of. As we saw though.. having Swords Dance is literally a game changer. I actually bet Shuckle would do better than both. Defense Curl/Rollout strats are not to be taken lightly!
@@Eggsceptional you saying that about Mankey just put a big smile on my face. it would of been interesting to see the deleted footage, but I have an idea as to how it would look, your Brock fights I think are a good indicator of the pain you faced, many a time I have thrown my GB across the room in frustration because of runs like that (20 years ago and now) Cradilly did a lot better than I thought it would do, I think you're deleted run gave you a good idea of what not to do with it and I think we all can forgive you for doing a run 1.5 because of it, Armaldo is a big bug beast and didn't need as much work to make work, but you did great with Cradilly and HP flying would be interesting to see on it, psychic worked nice as it gave you better damage for bruno and agatha, psychic before Gen 4 is now and always a little broken. people always talk badly of bugs and yet you have so far made them in the beasts of Gen 3 and you'll see that with others like Scizor and Heracross (next VS maybe) and my 2 fave of Venomoth and Masquerain will definitely show you that too. Helix does have the better moveset considering it is a special attacker opposed to physical, although I wish it had access to giga drain like Kabutops does, it would suit it so much better. and yeah you're right Swords dance is the game changer, but we'll wait and see on that one, BTW did you try any rain dance strats on either of them to take advantage of swift swim? I hate to tell you this, but Shuckle doesn't get rollout in Fire Red and Leaf Green, it only gets that via move tutor in emerald, you are right it would be good with it and defense curl, but in Fire Red it will only suffer and its only egg move is sweet scent. it will be a painful, painful run
@@jptheflipper3825 It's a shame they don't make 'em like they used to. My GameBoy took a smack or two over the years, though never intentional. HP Psychic was my snap decision when I was planning the second run and I for some reason got stuck in the mentality of SpA not fully considering my initial argument of "I'm going physical because Rock Slide owns" and using a physical HP. I wanted to use Rain Dance with both of them but neither can learn it via TM. If they can and the internet was wrong I'll be heartbroken. The Bugs have been winning me over. So far. They're way stronger than I gave them credit for every single time. You are correct. Shuckle is going to be more difficult that I thought with that learnset. Egg moves: Sweet Scent. Booyeah I can find a way to use that once then never again.
@@Eggsceptional I hate to tell you this, but they both get rain dance via TM18, I am very sorry. I think you need to change where you look up your info for your runs. I use Bulbapedia and Pokemon Database, they might be helpful for the future. do you have time to do 3rd runs with rain dance for Omastar and Kabutops? might be worth trying yes use sweet scent to attract something better and use that lol. I love my bugs and will be doing a set of fire red and leaf green runs with them again soon, I'll race ya
@@jptheflipper3825 Combining posts against because it's easier for me to keep track of :p It was actually on the Cradily run that I got TM10 off of a single Meowth before I was out of Rock Tunnel I think , where in the second playthrough I was actually aiming to use TM10 and 4-5 Meowths didn't find it until right before the league. Darn RNG. And who needs Body Slam when you can have Return right? Electric types in general terrify me as runs in FR/LG just because of how many random obstacles they face. Raichu VS LB Pikachu will be fun to explore though. Clever clever! It'll definitely take some deciding to figure out the proper format for set up move comparisons. I was also thinking about a mini demonstration of optimized EVs vs not. Eh. Ideas! Time! Ah! I grab my learnsets for the overlay from Bulbapedia but prefer referencing PokémonDB when fact checking and both say that neither Armaldo nor Cradily get Rain Dance. They get Sunny Day but no Rain Dance. Omastar and Kabutops get them so yes they will be using that. Oh man the idea of races and adding larger scale projects like that feels like a distant dream right now. I have way too much to work on right now! Which isn't a bad thing.. just requires time. Always time.
I have a feeling that Kabutops will embrass poor Omastar because I think it's faster! I'm really looking forward to when you get to do Vileplume vs Bellesom
Utterly shocked and amazed by Armaldo. I always saw them as a bad pokemon. but to get the placement of S tier. is it armaldo, or is it just the might of SD for the whole game I wonder?
I feel like a big part of it was the might of SD off the hop. Having Water Gun for Brock too was critical. That Erratic growth rate was something else too I gained levels so fast in the late game so I could blow all my candies earlier. Such a fun route to make
@@Eggsceptional my favorite part about it,is that pokemon given the benefit of VS runs with egg moves, and fully evolved. Some weaker pokemon can actually compete with legendaries. Makes me excited for the future.
So it was Erika that caused the reset for Cradily...damn, still this was a great vid and looking forward to seeing how the rest of the Fossil Pokémon do in Kanto
Also in terms of Bug Types a Heracross Vs Scizor vid would be kool to see, not only are they both gen 2 bugs but their 2nd type and great movepool could make things interesting also you could compare Scizor's time to Scyther's time since they have the same BST only with different distributions and Heracross to Pinsir since they're sorta similar with the same BST with both having the same attack and speed (not sure if you would have to redo Scyther and Pinsir since you've changed your routing with doing the first three Sevii Islands before the Round 2 league)
my guess for a winner with that run would be Scizor even though it's 4x weak to Blaine the steel typing is so good, though Heracross has 95 base Sp.def so maybe it won't struggle with Blaine as much (plus it has Guts so a burn wouldn't be so bad since it won't cause the attack drop but the damage over time is still bad)
I feel like the Blaine fight might not be too bad with either as I have so much of the run to prepare for it. Plus, they're both strong and fast enough to deal with him without taking too many extra attacks. Hopefully :) I've had a lot of Heracross requests and when somebody mentioned making it a VS against Scizor I was sold. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes with the routing on overall time. It exists but I feel it would impact the Round 1 times way more than the Round 2, which is the one I'm most interested in
Hey, Super Repels are more cost efficient than Max Repels. The Pokedollar cost by step is 2.5 for Super repels and 2.8 for max repels. I don't know if money is an issue in these runs, but if it is, going for super Repels would be better than max repels. If not, stick to max since it takes less menu time.
Correct! Typically in these runs I'm not super strapped for cash and I try to avoid the menuing as much as I can. Playing on 4x gamespeed my ability to do fine control isn't always reliable.
Woohoo! I love Cradily and Armaldo, but Cradily does not have the speed or ability to sweep that Armaldo does, so I’m guessing Armaldo clears pretty cleanly. Can’t wait to finish watching :)
I try my best to be as fair as possible. Even when a Pokémon loses a race because of an error that I made as a player it would be dishonest to rework it to fit my own narrative. I appreciate it! Thank you :)
Small thought: if you're doing smash cuts like with the leagues, maybe drop the trainer challenge animation. It's very distracting, even more so sped up, and whats best about the smash cut is the smoothness, which is lost here
It was my first attempt at a league super cut. Thanks for the feedback I wasn't sure about keeping the intro animations or not. Next time I will not :) Concerning Rock not resisting Rock... I know!!! I don't know why I day these things sometimes
I wonder how well a mixed attacker Cradily would have done with Giga Drain, Rock Slide, Ingrain, and Substitute. If only Cradily had a setup move. I knew it was a defensive beast and 90% of the time the fossil you'd prefer to have on a full team in a regular playthrough due to its just sheer lasting power, plus it's my favorite fossil as a Grass Type Stan, so I wanted it to win :(
I'm sure that a more defensive Cradily would have performed very well, it's always a question of speed though as the metric I place the most weight on is real time. It's such a hard balance to strike sometimes
Um actually, Venomoth is the uber rare Hybrid type, taking on whatever typing they choose :P I've been learning towards doing that naturally, however, there are runs like Magnemite where Hidden Power is darn near necessary without leveling into the 90s. I almost had to anyway even with HP! I've been trying to not use HP unless I feel it's absolutely necessary in the first playthroughs - same as Substitute.
@@Eggsceptional I imagine doing solo run content you have to balance these things. You don't want to use them every run to keep things from feeling to samey but you also don't want to rip your hair out dealing with pokemon that would be too hard/take too long without them. Well I've only recently subbed and it seems to me that you're doing a pretty good job of that.
i love both of em for this gen armaldo definetly going to be the better one tho but cradily is a beast in later gens with hidden ability and stockpile+recover its quite the tank. armaldo is amazing in sw/sh with swift swift assult vest anyway going to check the video now 😅
Not every time. A Pokémon definitely needs to have the bulk to stand up to those Round 2 members otherwise the decoys break immediately and you're stuck in a downward spiral. That being said... It's ridiculously powerful :)
Now i am not sure if aerodactyl will win from what i know he cant setup so now i more armaldo team before i think he will be 2nd. But this strats on cradily in 1st run stockpile and mirror coat we all should forget about them
I really wanted to make Mirroc Coat work! Despite how disappointingly useless it was. Aeodactyl can kind of set up using my VS rules. Check into the Egg moves :)
Who would have thought that Armaldo is such a beast. Great performance from him and great video from you
Armaldo blew me away! Thank you :)
been going through a few of your videos and I gotta say, i found myself really enjoying them. I like the versus idea and seeing it back to back like this. Really enjoy the commentary as well. solid work dude!
Thanks! I appreciate it :) I've really been enjoying the VS format with an Egg move. I feel it adds a lot of flavour.
I just found him and this is the best Pokémon channel I’ve found. Unbelievable that he only has less than 4K subs
@@Delaretro_ I 100% agree especially with the amount of effort that goes into these videos.
Ohhhh kill'em, Armaldo is one of my boys.
Armaldo did just that! Was a finish!
as a proud dome stan, i am so happy to see 75% dome here
Poor Cradily - it just doesn't have great tools, though rock slide does help early game. I'm proud of Armaldo for it's INCREDIBLE performance though.
It's bulk is so useful but in a solo challenge it definitely holds it back. Once I figured out my Egg move the early game did become way more palatable but lacking a bit of extra oomph really slowed it down. Keep the Dome love coming :)
Crossing fingers for that this video will be as popular as the last versus video
I hope so too :) There's something about those 3 way VS though that the algorithm just seems to love.
Had to come back to reply with some stats:
Pseudo Showdown peaked at: 70 viewers.
Armaldo VS Cradily peaked at: 77 viewers!!!!
I loved watching this happen live. Despite being stuck in traffic and having to watch in on my phone. From the passenger seat!
Yeah the VS vids always get a lot of views. Probably twice as much editing, but it's around 3 times the views. Yeah I guess I do analytics now too... Just being a weirdo over here. 🤣
Your channel is the FireRed version of Scott's Thoughts, the influence is very clear. I love it, great work!
He was my inspiration to finally create my own content :) Thank you!
I LOVE that you use Egg Moves, we never get to see them in playthroughs, they deserve to appear more!
Thank you! I've been enjoying using them. I feel it levels the playing field in these VS style videos - Scyther VS Pinsir would have been SO one-sided without Reversal for Scyther for example
Love your style, my man. Look forward to watching the channel grow. You're going to have so much poke'mon knowledge it's going to scare you.
I appreciate it, I'm glad you're enjoying the content! It's blown me away how much I've already learned about this game since starting to make content. I still feel like I know nothing some days!
don't have the time to watch right now, but i did want to pop in and say that cradily is my favorite fossil pokémon! i'm eggcited to see them being used, even if i don't necessarily think they'll win
they're still a winner in my heart
Cradily was the nost rage inducing, and satisfying one to solve there is no doubt. Such a fun second playthrough! I hope that once you get a chance you'll enjoy the runs :)
@@Eggsceptional i did, and you did not disappoint! honestly, i'm really impressed with how you managed to make up for its shortcomings, and managed to give it a really solid ranking! this was super fun to watch, as always!
@@somerandomgoblin2583 Glad you liked it, as always :) That HP Flying question will linger a while but that's ok. There are other videos to make first!
you remind me a lot of Scott's Thoughts (in a good way). very informative and analytical content.
He's the one that inspired me to finally start making my own content :)
SPOILERS
So going into this I wanted cradily to win it’s my second favorite fossil behind archeops (i’d worship the plume fossil if I could) however i knew that armaldo was more built for attacking so was better suited for a solo run… and then I realized it got swords dance yeah cradily wasn’t beating that however it did get a very good time and armaldo is hanging out with a bunch of legendaries witch is a funny image this were very fun runs to watch and while seeing mirror coat was fun I wonder how using recover or hp flying might’ve gone oh well you did cradily a time to be proud of also cradily doesn’t get storm drain until gen 5 since it’s there hidden ability
Thank you! I'd considered Recovery quite heavily after giving up on Mirror Coat but Rock Slide accelerated the early game SO much. The HP Flying question will remain lingering for now I'm afraid. You're correct about the Hidden Ability! I did do a poll before asking my viewers of they were fine with me using Hidden Abilities as long as they existed in that Gen. The majority said yes, so Swinub for example could use Thick Fat
Amazing video yet again! Great work!
Thank you! Glad you caught the tail end of the premiere :)
29:40 that mirror coat play was a proper ravenclaw move :D
I was so proud to finally find a use for the darn move after carrying it since the first battle!
Cool video again, looking forward to the Kanto fossils, especially Aerodactyl. I would love to see more version exclusives vs. runs. (Arbok vs Sandslash, Oddish line vs Bellsprout line, Magmar vs Electabuzz, Psyduck line vs Slowpoke line, etc.) :D
(I know the line is long, no rush ;) )
I appreciate you being patient with me. I like the version exclusive ideas! I have a bunch of cross generation ones coming up (Arbok VS Seviper, Butterfree VS Beautifly for instance) but I'll get to all of the VS eventually :) eventually....
Day 2 only palkia please
I'll see what I can do :)
@@Eggsceptionalyou are a great person brother
@@jhanAV I appreciate it! I try my best.
@@EggsceptionalI love that you don't lose your patience, even though I'm bothering you so much with this.
@@jhanAV I can't guarantee a day 1 or 2 Palkia run, but I can aim to have one early for you :P
Hi :)
glad i voted for armaldo, the time is awesome, and i kind of liked it when i was younger
Hello!
Well voted! I always thought Armaldo had a wicked design but never actually got one when I was a kid.
Thaaaaaaaank you for not saving your rare candies for the very end. Fun vid so far!
If the benefit exists earlier then why not right? That erratic growth rate sure helped justify it.
I say you name that mankey after the real elite four final boss “Bruno”
I'm not sure if "after the real elite four boss 'Bruno'" will fit 🤔
Bad joke. I like the name Bruno
Great video. One oversight is that you said mirror coat can skip accuracy. I've ran wobbuffet in this game many times and I distinctively remember counter and mirror coat missing after sand attack
Aw man, that's going to make that eventual run even worse! I've got a note to make a correction. Thanks!
@@Eggsceptionalone tip I've got for you is that struggle is going to be your best friend and you will definitely need leftovers for the round 1 league. Plus you'll be switching back and forth between struggle strats and counter and mirror coat strats. Besides most opponents will actually know you have counter and mirror coat and will just straight-up refuse to attack you.
@@Speedrunner0218 That Gen 3 AI is really something isn't it? I'm not looking forward to that Wobbuffet run - sometime in the future. Good tips though thanks :)
Always loved both of these. Armaldo was my fav c:
I was blown away by Armaldo's performance it was soo good!
eggcellent sir, truly eggcellent, I see why you rage quit with Cradilly, that was rough, but clearly could of been rougher, you ran it well and I think you ran it better than most would of and certainly better than I thought it would do, interesting choice of mirror coat for the egg move, took you a while but you got to make use of it. Armaldo was superb, but sweet Jesus the bad luck with poison, so many resets because of poison, especially poison point and that mankey again, why do I get the feeling that mankey is going to do that to all the fossils, maybe not Aerodactyl as much.
I like the movesets you went with for both of them, I'm not surprised with what you did with Armaldo, but I like that you kept water gun and then water pulse for longer, its not a special attacker, but having it just in case was such a wise move, same with Cradilly, going mostly physical, but keeping the grass STAB for special was very effective and great choice of HP psychic for it, it just plowed through the league with it and the champion was such a joke, I love that it found a spot where it had an easy time instead of a painful one
and you be nice to the bugs, Armaldo did good and so did Pinsir and Scyther, the bugs will come back and bite you if you're not careful. Parasect and Shedinja will see to that. I had a thought with those 2 for the VS. how about adding in Shuckle for a 3 way VS and see which Gen had the worst bug type, my bet would be Shuckle, you will genuinely hate it with blind passion and rage. I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the fossils, have you been dropping hints about how well they're going to do, Kabutops could win it yes, but do not underestimate the Lord Helix
I really wish that I hadn't deleted the footage to at least have added a little excerpt about my pain. A different kind of lesson learned. Even failed runs are good footage :) I'm willing to give a small spoiler for Aerodactyl. When I was on Nugget bridge, cruising through the trainers, outspeeding and one shotting that little !@#$ Mankey put the biggest smile on my face.
Dialing in the Cradily run was so satisfying. Going from so so so much pain to a completion where I saved THAT amount of time was the best feeling. I'm still so curious if going with HP Flying and staying with a physical focus would have performed better. Lance would have been way easier with the physical focus that's for sure.
It's true!! Scyther and Pinsir outplayed my eggspectations and Armaldo blew them out of the water. Like I said! They're winning me over. Slowly :) I think Helix is going to be the most fun to play honestly because of its synergy with the moveset that I'm thinking of. As we saw though.. having Swords Dance is literally a game changer. I actually bet Shuckle would do better than both. Defense Curl/Rollout strats are not to be taken lightly!
@@Eggsceptional you saying that about Mankey just put a big smile on my face. it would of been interesting to see the deleted footage, but I have an idea as to how it would look, your Brock fights I think are a good indicator of the pain you faced, many a time I have thrown my GB across the room in frustration because of runs like that (20 years ago and now)
Cradilly did a lot better than I thought it would do, I think you're deleted run gave you a good idea of what not to do with it and I think we all can forgive you for doing a run 1.5 because of it, Armaldo is a big bug beast and didn't need as much work to make work, but you did great with Cradilly and HP flying would be interesting to see on it, psychic worked nice as it gave you better damage for bruno and agatha, psychic before Gen 4 is now and always a little broken.
people always talk badly of bugs and yet you have so far made them in the beasts of Gen 3 and you'll see that with others like Scizor and Heracross (next VS maybe) and my 2 fave of Venomoth and Masquerain will definitely show you that too. Helix does have the better moveset considering it is a special attacker opposed to physical, although I wish it had access to giga drain like Kabutops does, it would suit it so much better. and yeah you're right Swords dance is the game changer, but we'll wait and see on that one, BTW did you try any rain dance strats on either of them to take advantage of swift swim?
I hate to tell you this, but Shuckle doesn't get rollout in Fire Red and Leaf Green, it only gets that via move tutor in emerald, you are right it would be good with it and defense curl, but in Fire Red it will only suffer and its only egg move is sweet scent. it will be a painful, painful run
@@jptheflipper3825 It's a shame they don't make 'em like they used to. My GameBoy took a smack or two over the years, though never intentional.
HP Psychic was my snap decision when I was planning the second run and I for some reason got stuck in the mentality of SpA not fully considering my initial argument of "I'm going physical because Rock Slide owns" and using a physical HP.
I wanted to use Rain Dance with both of them but neither can learn it via TM. If they can and the internet was wrong I'll be heartbroken. The Bugs have been winning me over. So far. They're way stronger than I gave them credit for every single time.
You are correct. Shuckle is going to be more difficult that I thought with that learnset. Egg moves: Sweet Scent. Booyeah I can find a way to use that once then never again.
@@Eggsceptional I hate to tell you this, but they both get rain dance via TM18, I am very sorry. I think you need to change where you look up your info for your runs. I use Bulbapedia and Pokemon Database, they might be helpful for the future. do you have time to do 3rd runs with rain dance for Omastar and Kabutops? might be worth trying
yes use sweet scent to attract something better and use that lol. I love my bugs and will be doing a set of fire red and leaf green runs with them again soon, I'll race ya
@@jptheflipper3825 Combining posts against because it's easier for me to keep track of :p
It was actually on the Cradily run that I got TM10 off of a single Meowth before I was out of Rock Tunnel I think , where in the second playthrough I was actually aiming to use TM10 and 4-5 Meowths didn't find it until right before the league. Darn RNG. And who needs Body Slam when you can have Return right?
Electric types in general terrify me as runs in FR/LG just because of how many random obstacles they face. Raichu VS LB Pikachu will be fun to explore though. Clever clever!
It'll definitely take some deciding to figure out the proper format for set up move comparisons. I was also thinking about a mini demonstration of optimized EVs vs not. Eh. Ideas! Time! Ah!
I grab my learnsets for the overlay from Bulbapedia but prefer referencing PokémonDB when fact checking and both say that neither Armaldo nor Cradily get Rain Dance. They get Sunny Day but no Rain Dance. Omastar and Kabutops get them so yes they will be using that.
Oh man the idea of races and adding larger scale projects like that feels like a distant dream right now. I have way too much to work on right now! Which isn't a bad thing.. just requires time. Always time.
I have a feeling that Kabutops will embrass poor Omastar because I think it's faster! I'm really looking forward to when you get to do Vileplume vs Bellesom
In time, in time. The list has grown so long! I've started making Kabu VS Oma and I won't say much aside from this video is going to be a blast :)
Utterly shocked and amazed by Armaldo. I always saw them as a bad pokemon. but to get the placement of S tier. is it armaldo, or is it just the might of SD for the whole game I wonder?
I feel like a big part of it was the might of SD off the hop. Having Water Gun for Brock too was critical. That Erratic growth rate was something else too I gained levels so fast in the late game so I could blow all my candies earlier. Such a fun route to make
@@Eggsceptional my favorite part about it,is that pokemon given the benefit of VS runs with egg moves, and fully evolved. Some weaker pokemon can actually compete with legendaries. Makes me excited for the future.
@@dee7571 I would have included Egg moves on Kyogre/Groudoun but they didn't have any! Makes sense... I'm glad you like it :)
Loved the video! Keep it up!
Thank you! I'm glad that you enjoyed it :)
Armaldo gaming!
Nice video-
I always thought Gen 3's fossils were really cool.
Thank you! I'd never used those two before making this video. Armaldo shocked me!
So it was Erika that caused the reset for Cradily...damn, still this was a great vid and looking forward to seeing how the rest of the Fossil Pokémon do in Kanto
We'll just call that first run "a series of unfortunate events". It was really bad. I can't wait to run the rest of them :)
Can't wait to see the run!
I hope you enjoy it when you find the time :)
Also in terms of Bug Types a Heracross Vs Scizor vid would be kool to see, not only are they both gen 2 bugs but their 2nd type and great movepool could make things interesting also you could compare Scizor's time to Scyther's time since they have the same BST only with different distributions and Heracross to Pinsir since they're sorta similar with the same BST with both having the same attack and speed (not sure if you would have to redo Scyther and Pinsir since you've changed your routing with doing the first three Sevii Islands before the Round 2 league)
my guess for a winner with that run would be Scizor even though it's 4x weak to Blaine the steel typing is so good, though Heracross has 95 base Sp.def so maybe it won't struggle with Blaine as much (plus it has Guts so a burn wouldn't be so bad since it won't cause the attack drop but the damage over time is still bad)
I feel like the Blaine fight might not be too bad with either as I have so much of the run to prepare for it. Plus, they're both strong and fast enough to deal with him without taking too many extra attacks. Hopefully :) I've had a lot of Heracross requests and when somebody mentioned making it a VS against Scizor I was sold. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes with the routing on overall time. It exists but I feel it would impact the Round 1 times way more than the Round 2, which is the one I'm most interested in
I hope you do Machamp,Slowbro,Snorlax, or Weezing. Those are some of my favorite mons.
All on the list! Please be patient with me. I've had an insane amount of requests :)
i do a lot of fire red nuzlockes, cool to see solo challenges in it :)
I'll be trying my first Nuzlocke in the not too distant future! Solo challenges have always been my jam though.
Hey, Super Repels are more cost efficient than Max Repels. The Pokedollar cost by step is 2.5 for Super repels and 2.8 for max repels. I don't know if money is an issue in these runs, but if it is, going for super Repels would be better than max repels. If not, stick to max since it takes less menu time.
Correct! Typically in these runs I'm not super strapped for cash and I try to avoid the menuing as much as I can. Playing on 4x gamespeed my ability to do fine control isn't always reliable.
Woohoo! I love Cradily and Armaldo, but Cradily does not have the speed or ability to sweep that Armaldo does, so I’m guessing Armaldo clears pretty cleanly. Can’t wait to finish watching :)
I hope you enjoyed watching the rest! Cradily was wicked strong to work with but Armaldo ended up being a cut above :)
Always loved both of these wonky little fossils.
I've always thought that they were cool but had never used either until making this video. They were a treat!
Cradily my favorite fossil so it hurts to see him lose but I was pleasantly surprised of how well Armaldo did
Cradily was so strong! Just not built for speedy solo runs I suppose :)
@@Eggsceptional Yeah I guess you’re right
By the way you gained a sub from me, your content i like from the humor to the technical side and how you are fair with all the runs I seen thus far.
I try my best to be as fair as possible. Even when a Pokémon loses a race because of an error that I made as a player it would be dishonest to rework it to fit my own narrative. I appreciate it! Thank you :)
Good job Armadillo! Making the Bugs proud
All of the Bugs I've run so far have shocked me! Granted, I haven't bridged into the really umm "interesting" ones yet
Small thought: if you're doing smash cuts like with the leagues, maybe drop the trainer challenge animation. It's very distracting, even more so sped up, and whats best about the smash cut is the smoothness, which is lost here
Also if you're interested in more type corrections: rock doesn't resist rock! Rock slide is only singly resisted by Brock!
It was my first attempt at a league super cut. Thanks for the feedback I wasn't sure about keeping the intro animations or not. Next time I will not :)
Concerning Rock not resisting Rock... I know!!! I don't know why I day these things sometimes
Cradily is my favorite fossil and top 5 favorite Mon
Cradily was the hardest to route (therefore the most fun). I actually hadn't used one before making this Cradily has a new fan in me :)
I wonder how well a mixed attacker Cradily would have done with Giga Drain, Rock Slide, Ingrain, and Substitute.
If only Cradily had a setup move. I knew it was a defensive beast and 90% of the time the fossil you'd prefer to have on a full team in a regular playthrough due to its just sheer lasting power, plus it's my favorite fossil as a Grass Type Stan, so I wanted it to win :(
I'm sure that a more defensive Cradily would have performed very well, it's always a question of speed though as the metric I place the most weight on is real time. It's such a hard balance to strike sometimes
Wow. I'm being quoted in this video.
I feel proud of myself.
I try to address all of my corrections eventually!
You’re just going to get better getting mastery of 4x speed 💪🏾
Day by day I'll get better. Though the growing pains are still there :)
How has this channel not blown up yet
Define "blow up" :) I feel like I've had incredible growth lately!
@@Eggsceptional 3k likes to begin with
@@jackruby6696 I like the sounds of that
22:47 🤓 Um achtually, in this particular case venomoth is rock/water!
😂😂😂
39:27 Do like Scott's thoughts does, ban them on the first attempt and use them on the second attempt if they're needed.
Um actually, Venomoth is the uber rare Hybrid type, taking on whatever typing they choose :P
I've been learning towards doing that naturally, however, there are runs like Magnemite where Hidden Power is darn near necessary without leveling into the 90s. I almost had to anyway even with HP! I've been trying to not use HP unless I feel it's absolutely necessary in the first playthroughs - same as Substitute.
@@Eggsceptional I imagine doing solo run content you have to balance these things. You don't want to use them every run to keep things from feeling to samey but you also don't want to rip your hair out dealing with pokemon that would be too hard/take too long without them. Well I've only recently subbed and it seems to me that you're doing a pretty good job of that.
@@briancaster2876 I appreciate that! After all of these pseudos and fossils though I'm going to punish myself a little bit with this upcoming video :)
My bad I missed the premier :(
It's all good! We all live busy lives :)
@@Eggsceptional still getting the view and like so it works out in your favor still
@@bazior36 And you get more of the content you enjoy, hopefully :)
i love both of em for this gen armaldo definetly going to be the better one tho
but cradily is a beast in later gens with hidden ability and stockpile+recover its quite the tank.
armaldo is amazing in sw/sh with swift swift assult vest anyway going to check the video now 😅
Oh heck yeah Cradily with newer mechanics would be monstrous. I can't wait to break into newer generations once I get a hardware upgrade :)
seems like Substitute just solves everything
Not every time. A Pokémon definitely needs to have the bulk to stand up to those Round 2 members otherwise the decoys break immediately and you're stuck in a downward spiral. That being said... It's ridiculously powerful :)
Now i am not sure if aerodactyl will win from what i know he cant setup so now i more armaldo team before i think he will be 2nd. But this strats on cradily in 1st run stockpile and mirror coat we all should forget about them
I really wanted to make Mirroc Coat work! Despite how disappointingly useless it was. Aeodactyl can kind of set up using my VS rules. Check into the Egg moves :)
Oh he have curse maybe with his speed it will be fine to use it 2 or 3 times
@@winek2036 It's been an interesting one to route I'll tell you that much
Yay one of my bug bois
The Bugs are finding a place in my good books lately!!
Armaldos run 2 beat all the pseudos, god damn
Not beat but darn close.. I was blown away by it!
Zerg reference i see you
We are the swarm. Numberless...merciless.
Armaldo my favourite fossil sd plus high attack nothing beating it well I hope
It was such an outstanding time. Definitely blown away by Armaldo
@@Eggsceptional Areodactyl might come close but I dontbse kabutops or Omistar doing as well
@@zeakatep171 We'll have to wait and find out :)
@@Eggsceptional yepbi thought Metagross would win but Salamence steamrolled FR/LG like it was nothing
@@zeakatep171 Access to Rock Slide solved every problem that I had with Dragonite so yeah, Salamence sliced through :)
the mankey should be named brian
I haven't had that one before! I'll write it down thanks :)
cradily may have lost, but itll be my fav pre 3ds era fossil forever
I didn't expect the fastest time out of Cradily given how it's built and how FireRed is. Cradily did me proud :) Lord Helix thanks you.
Manky nickname = Grape Ape
Definitely wrote that one down.
44:34 blink twice if you need assistance
One for yes, two for no.
Blink, blink.
Yes, yes.
Butterfree
Sleep powder
Dream Eater
Psychic
Silver powder
Not all bugs are bad, Butterfree is my go to psychic pokemon.
For years I held that all Bugs are bad. Every single Bug I've played in this channel has surprised me. In a good way!!!
Algorithm.
Thank you :)
Tombstoner brother
TM28 Tombstoner as if!
Mankey's name should be Man K. Man
I like it, I'm adding it to the list
And like that I subscribed.
I appreciate it :) Hope you're enjoying the videos!
@@Eggsceptional absolutely. Currently watching lord helix Vs lord dome. I’m for team lord dome.
@@Aaron.Seabolt Sorry for letting the Dome down this time. There will be more opportunities in the future I'm sure!
Either MAN-ky or spanky
Maybe I just have to continue combining them all. Grape Ape the Spanky Mankey of House Bruno. He'll be the Starbucks order of nicknames.
@Eggsceptional "ya I got a grande Frappuccino for grade A the snappy monki of house targarian"
@@Ubernewb111 Eggsactly!! :)
It's rival fiveal
I mention Fievel in the upcoming video :)