A creature feature about Mummies! There’s so many different types of mummies, from thassilon to osirion mummies. And Vampires and Liches would be fantastic too!
Nice! Clockworks would be a cool feature, since they have so many types. I suppose the Dragons would be an obvious choice, especially because the Tian Xia will be the next region to get a Lost Omen drop and they have lots of special dragons. Gremlins are fun and weird. If you want to connect them to our world, there's always the dinosaurs. AoN has 12 statted out dinosaur species, and they show up on Golarion in the jungles of Garund and Arcadia.
Definitely dragons is on the list. I like the idea of a more general one on constructs, which could include clockwork types. Not sure about dinosaurs! I think there may be some better resources to brush up on your dino-lore than me. 😂
This channel really does put put out the best content. Every video really brings out the best of pathfinders content and helps make these creatures feel fleshed out.
Thank you Mythkeeper. I'm new to Pathfinder and I am learning the system. I plan on running a campaign for my friends and your videos are incredibly helpful and informative.
That was great. I love Pathfinder giants and their lore. Obviously dragons are something I want you to do. I also would think giant kin would be cool too like trolls and ettins. Love all your content.
LOVE how these videos feel like 1 part lore, one part anthropology seminar. You present the concepts in a digestible fashion but also leave open spaces for mystery, cultural interpretation, or for in-game development by DMs. Thank you! If you’re looking for suggestions, I would love your take on the Aboleths (spelling?). They seem like a creature/race with a huge impact on the world of Golarion and might make for a juicy ‘someday’ video 😊.
Awesome, that is a creature that has not yet been requested, but which are very important to Golarion lore. This comment has given me the idea that I should put together a creature feature of creatures that are historically important to Golarion - Aboleths, Caulborn, Vaultbuilders - off the top of my head.
What a great video! Thanks. One suggestion: I'd be very interested in a language focused video, if that is possible. Like: When were which languages spoken where? What was the reason? What languages are still around? In which part of the world? I know Taldan is Common, but where is it spoken to it's full extend? What languages mix with each other in which regions? Where are more or less the limits of Taldan? Can you still talk to the local population in the Land of the Linnormkings or are you a tourist, who can order a beer but that is about is?
I dug it. Going to definitely use some of this for a campaign I am working on now in the River Kingdoms. Oh listened to that Deep Dive already lol. I have used your deep dives for my Cheliax campaign, Magnimar campaign, and upcoming River Kingdoms campaign. Good stuff. You're doing Abadar's work
So, I am currently working on giants for my world so this is an interesting find. Crossing over from 5e and fusing the lore and stuff is interesting. All giants for my multiverse are huge creatures. The Hill Giants are the shortest but I also have packed on the weight as well. Where as Stone Giants are the tallest even above Storm Giants. (not including rune giants as I am reclassified them into a larger group of giants called Enormals which are gargantuan though I might even bring out the older rules for Colossal to fit the scale I really want them to be. So we have Artic, Forest, Mountain, Ocean, Sky, Swamp, and Volcano (Best I could come up with for a land mass for fire) They are basically what happens when a Giant is able to harnass elemental power and become one with the elements. Also working on adding 2 additional types of each giant. Frost Giant Jarl, Storm Giant Roc Rider, Fire Giant Vindicator, Hill Giant Gorger, Stone Giant Elders ect. Pulled inspiration from 4e D&D and 3.5 D&D. Also looking to do some Half Breeds as well. Stone + Fire = Basalt Giant. Also a Halfbreed player ancestries (I don't like heritages for half breeds) for Orcs and humans. Maybe a few others that seem fitting.
@@TheMythkeeper Will do sir! Again thank you for the Content. Only about 5 videos in so far. Mostly creatures currently Undead, Dragons, Fey and Giants. But superb content.
Yep, since I covered them in my ancestry series (the Smallfolk video) I don't think I'll do a special goblins only video any time soon. That could always change in the future, but for right now I'd rather focus on those topics I haven't yet covered at all.
Now THIS is a great idea! I love Pathfinder’s giants, so thank you for starting with them. I won’t put in a request right now because you’re probably inundated with them, but I do have an idea for whenever you get to dragons. I suggest breaking them up by type ie: chromatic, metallic, imperial, etc. To the future!
Fun fact: very few of the beings called giants in mythology are actually depicted as gigantic. Eoten/jotunn are basically just like the Ese/Aesir and in fact many of the Aesir are mixed with jotunn. The Titans (at least most of them) are not depicted as being bigger than the other Greek divinities. Even the Gigantes, from whom we derive the word for giant, are not specifically described as being super large.
Not strange really. They're probably the gods of dead cultures that had a hostile relationship to the cultures who's gods we remember. My enemies gods are my gods enemies.
I'm holding back on Absalom a little bit. I'm starting to get to the point where I want to make sure I don't burn through all the juicy locations right away and end up with a backlog of less popular locales that I feel obligated to fill. I definitely think the Absalom video will hopefully be worth the wait.
I'm definitely touching on these along the way. Some more details on the Koloran coming up in my Mendev, Brevoy, Iobaria deep-dive out in a few weeks and eventually more on the Ghol-gan when I do the Shackles.
Yes, Undead will have to be broken down into various sub categories. I could do a whole video just on vampires if I wanted to! Probably do the same for ghosts, wights and wraiths as well.
Creature based series for RPGs are some of my favorite types of videos Some of my favorite and hope to see videos for Dragons because well dragons various fey types cause I like fey and related creatures The various outsiders though particularly interested in kytons, psychopomps and by extension Sahkil, aeon, and azata, etc are all fairly interesting
You put ogres in the hill giant section, but still, great video. :) I'd love to know where you get the illustrations for them, I'd love to get my hands on a few of those for my campaigns...
Would love to see a video on the creatures inhabiting the Plateau of Leng as it overlaps alot with several adventure paths and has a wide variety of creatures. Also, I would like to ask a question, are Ogres classified as Hill Giants as well?
Ogres are a distinct but related creature type which I'll actually tackle along with gnolls, trolls and bugbears and possibly a few others in a video more focused on classic D&D style monsters.
Yeeees! And even starting with a creature that I am most interested by. Thanks a lot! Really interested also in dragons. Are they as magical as in Dnd, where they change the enviroment they live in?
I think I'll be doing something along these lines as part of a series on the Empyreal Lords, covering angels, archons, azatas and agathions. That will probably wind up in my religion series rather than my creature series, but I'm actively working on some content for more good-aligned things too. 🙂
My group stumbled upon a hill giant that was very drunk and down on his luck not only was we able to get him not to fight us we got him to join us we already have a frost giant who is used to living with smaller races so he is going to be the one to teach the hill giant how to live in a city our frost giant is just happy to have another giant for company
@@TheMythkeeper The giants did party pretty hard to the point that they had to go outside of the city to finish partying do to the common folk not happy with two giants getting drunk in the city that alone was worth it we will have to wait and see if we get anymore giants that want to join us we already have kobolds and lizardfolk so we already have a lots of races in our new kingdom
Giants likely morphed from metaphorical giants, "He's a giant in his field," into literal and vice versa. Also, anthropomorphism of natural forces is a consequence of our evolution toward being better able to read other hominids.
There are definitely ways of doing this character concept over time. In 1E for example you can play a Goliath Druid that lets you take the form of a cyclops (or any giant) with Wildshape. Perhaps you appear human (with a missing eye of course) due to a curse or similar magic and you have to rediscover you power. As wildshape is hours/level usable twice by 6th level you can basically stay in your giant form indefinitely (12hrs/day). I think you can probably achieve something similar in 2E as well, you'd just have to think about it a little more or work with your GM.
I really want to do something unique with Giants in my setting. I have this idea that they were once humans who bargained with an evil god for extreme strength and power. This evil god then wanted to use them in a war against the other gods but they were all defeated, mostly thanks to Giants who defected since they realized that the path they were on would only led to suffering and eternal slavery. Because of this they were forgiven for their crimes and rewarded for their sacrifice and courage. I think it would make for a great story.
No they don't, which seems like a clear oversight since Giants are pretty common-place. I would definitely like to see Giants function like Dhampir or Aasimars, as a special heritage that you can apply on any ancestry. I imagine giant-blooded Kellids and giant-blooded Orcs are probably both reasonably common combinations.
Do Cliff, Forest, Jungle, Forge, River, Cave, Sun, Moon, Eclipse, and Plague giants just not have enough lore to justify their inclusion in this video?
And you forgot Wood Giants! Yes, its primarily a question of volume of lore, but also, these additional giants were released in various monster manuals whereas the 10 I focus on are covered in depth in the Pathfinder Giant Compendium that I link in the description. To me that indicated these giants represented the most, uh, 'Pathfindery' of the giants.
In my Kingmaker 2e campaign I was able to befriend a Frost Giant I am playing as a winter witch who's great grandmother is Baba Yaga I used her name to get him to back down and switch sides because I offered him a job once I get to the kingdom building part I will probably make the Frost Giant my bodyguard when I become the ruler that will make would be assassins think twice about trying to kill my winter witch lol
@@TheMythkeeper You should have seen the look on my DM's face when I used my backstory to get the Frost Giant to join us it was priceless now that we are at the kingdom building part we have given him the role of being chancellor for our new kingdom and my PC who is the ruler give the Frost Giant and the rest of the party noble titles
Or shadow giants! Or ogres! Because I had to keep it to 10, and these were the 10 in the original Giants Compendium and their lore seemed the most tied together.
@@larsholm8700 I know that I'll talk about Ogres in a video featuring trolls, gnolls and bugbears which I'll call "Classic RPG Monsters". I also know a tribe of Wood Giants get a mention in an upcoming deep dive about the southern mwangi expanse, so I'm hoping I'll find opportunities to pepper them in other videos. I don't think I'll get the mileage yet out of doing a "More Giants" video just yet though.
@@TheMythkeeper No need to apologize, however, I think a frame for brief presentation would have helped. I noticed in the case of Human-ish Cretures, a short handed way of their lifespan seemed to help flesh them out quite nicely. I think the only other Giant you missed that detail on was the Marsh Giants. Other than those incredibly minor and pedantic gripes, EXCELLENT MATERIAL AS USUAL!!!
Because Ogres are more of a distinct but related creature type which I'll actually tackle along with gnolls, trolls and bugbears and possibly a few others in a video more focused on classic D&D style monsters.
It's very misleading to portray the Annunaki in Sumerian and Babylonian mythology as 'giants'. They were immortal beings, often Gods and that's really all we can say for sure. The records from this time are patchy and the Sumerians didn't exactly explain their terms, which means there are a lot of words (in the context of everyday life as well as ritual and myth) that we just don't understand the full meaning of. There is a Sumerian story about the Annunaki fighting a different group of divine beings.... but the parallel you draw with Norse mythology doesn't really work. In the story the Annunaki are the powerful Gods, and it doesn't really represent the struggle of the civilised vs nature as the Norse myths do, and it ends with both groups of divine beings united on an even footing. If you want to know more Let's Talk Religion has an excellent introduction to Mesopotamian mythology. But as it stands this intro kind of goes against a lot of what we know about this period of history (I've never seen a single scholar reference 'giants' or draw a parallel in that way for example.) I realise this might seem picky. It isn't your focus, these videos are about pathfinder. But there's a lot of misinformation about Iraqi history online and well- You strike me as the kind of guy who'd want to know if he was accidentally adding to it.
You are absolutely correct, I don't want to mislead anyone here. It would be more accurate to say that in the steles and sculptures, some of which I include in the video, they are depicted as gigantic in scale. TBH, it may even be a misnomer to call Jotuns, Fomorians and certainly Greek Titans to be giants, since in all those cases they were sort of god-adjacent, but we seem to have simplified them in later years as simply 'giants'.
Holdon, sorry, but how can a Cyclops single eye offer better peripheral vision than human eyes? Human eyes in the animal world are pretty bad for peripheral vision, they are placed for telescopic vision in order to judge distances accurately, a result of our evolution from Brachial tree dwellers *similar* to monkeys. No, we are not evolved from monkeys, but monkeys and Hominids do have a common ancestor. A single forward facing eye is literally the WORST possible for peripheral vision. Now potentially sharper sight is something that you could ascribe to a Cyclops, that is more to do with the eye structure. I would say one thing though, don't give a cyclops a missile weapon, with a single eye, so no telescopic vision, its not going to be judging range at all. When it comes to peripheral vision, you want the eyes on the side of your head, look at the vast majority of herbivorous mammals (outside Monkeys, apes, Lemurs and other brachial/leaping species), and where are their eyes? That's right, on the side of their heads. Human eye position gives us a field of vision of about 180 degrees, a deer? Its around 270 degrees. At absolute best, assuming the eye is protruding significantly, a Cyclops eye will manage 180 degree vision arc. As they are not, its probably closer to a 90 degree, 45 degree to either side of the eye..... That is a hell of an evolutionary weakness.... No wonder the needed that Oracular ability!
Maybe its like a chameleon eye and can really move around, or maybe its magic! In any case from an official lore perspective they have good peripheral vision but poor depth perception.
Jötnar (singular jötun) should be pronounced "yoht-nar" (yoh-tn). Ymir is pronounced "ee-meer". The correct plural of cyclops is cyclopes (pronounced "syklo-peez"). Legend has it that once they had two eyes, like other men, but struck a bargain with a dark power, sacrificing one in order to gain insight into the future...but they were betrayed, for the only vision they gained was the knowledge of their own death. Fire giants self-identify as müspel (moo-spel); it's their idiomatic name. Thrymr is correctly pronounced "thrimmer", not "thri-meer". I appreciate the benevolent mindset of the altruist faction of cloud giants, but interfering in other peoples' development has never gone well historically. The pragmatist faction are not pragmatic; what they disingenuously call pragmatism is in fact a whisper-thin justification to take what they desire by force - basically a thinly-veiled excuse to go raid the shorties (us).
Running Rise of the Runelords. This helped immensely!
Awesome! Rise is a classic.
Paizo made giant culture much more interesting
Absolutely, they provide such detailed source material.
I gotta disagree, i think the DnD Giants and the Ordning are more compelling. Still doesn‘t mean that paizo‘s take is bad.
Creature types would be a great video series. Would love to see some Oozes
Yes oozes are classic D&D! Will definitely do one on Oozes in the future.
A creature feature about Mummies! There’s so many different types of mummies, from thassilon to osirion mummies. And Vampires and Liches would be fantastic too!
Yeah undead could make several videos!
Nice! Clockworks would be a cool feature, since they have so many types. I suppose the Dragons would be an obvious choice, especially because the Tian Xia will be the next region to get a Lost Omen drop and they have lots of special dragons. Gremlins are fun and weird. If you want to connect them to our world, there's always the dinosaurs. AoN has 12 statted out dinosaur species, and they show up on Golarion in the jungles of Garund and Arcadia.
Definitely dragons is on the list. I like the idea of a more general one on constructs, which could include clockwork types. Not sure about dinosaurs! I think there may be some better resources to brush up on your dino-lore than me. 😂
Giant like! Creature lore videos is a promising idea
Thank you I hope people enjoy these!
Lycanthropes would be really cool! Yugoloths would be another great creature feature!
Lycanthropes yes! Yugoloths I think are not open gaming content IIRC, so there are equivalents in PF but aren't core to PF identity in any way.
Thank you for the entertaining video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This channel really does put put out the best content. Every video really brings out the best of pathfinders content and helps make these creatures feel fleshed out.
Thank you Mythkeeper. I'm new to Pathfinder and I am learning the system. I plan on running a campaign for my friends and your videos are incredibly helpful and informative.
So glad you're finding them useful.
That was great. I love Pathfinder giants and their lore. Obviously dragons are something I want you to do. I also would think giant kin would be cool too like trolls and ettins. Love all your content.
I enjoyed this one a lot! Vampires could be a really cool one for the future!
I refuse to watch this at work! Ima wait till I get home, have a smoke and get rdy for the lore!!
LOVE how these videos feel like 1 part lore, one part anthropology seminar. You present the concepts in a digestible fashion but also leave open spaces for mystery, cultural interpretation, or for in-game development by DMs. Thank you!
If you’re looking for suggestions, I would love your take on the Aboleths (spelling?). They seem like a creature/race with a huge impact on the world of Golarion and might make for a juicy ‘someday’ video 😊.
Awesome, that is a creature that has not yet been requested, but which are very important to Golarion lore. This comment has given me the idea that I should put together a creature feature of creatures that are historically important to Golarion - Aboleths, Caulborn, Vaultbuilders - off the top of my head.
@@TheMythkeeper I don’t even KNOW about the other two you mentioned but now I’m off to the wiki page. Thank you!!
I agree with an Aboleth video for sure, they are very important to certain plot and events in golarion
Perhaps the most important helper races as well to flesh it out
I would love more of this type of creature deep dive. Keep up the great work.
This is a pretty big step 😉, but seriously great video as always. Really hope you do a dragon video at some point.
Yep, dragons, demons, devils, oozes... the big ones are all coming... eventually! 😅
What a great video! Thanks.
One suggestion: I'd be very interested in a language focused video, if that is possible. Like: When were which languages spoken where? What was the reason? What languages are still around? In which part of the world? I know Taldan is Common, but where is it spoken to it's full extend? What languages mix with each other in which regions? Where are more or less the limits of Taldan? Can you still talk to the local population in the Land of the Linnormkings or are you a tourist, who can order a beer but that is about is?
That's a great video suggestion, I'll see if I can work it into my schedule and get a full video out of it. :-)
It makes me so happy to watch your channel grow. You've earned every sub.
woot nice bisley illustration
Slaine!
A video on the fey would be really cool.
Yes, Fey is on my list!
I dug it. Going to definitely use some of this for a campaign I am working on now in the River Kingdoms. Oh listened to that Deep Dive already lol. I have used your deep dives for my Cheliax campaign, Magnimar campaign, and upcoming River Kingdoms campaign. Good stuff. You're doing Abadar's work
Awesome, thanks for the feedback 😎
Excellent content! Your presentation of pathfinder lore is the best I’ve come across on YT. Keep ‘em coming please!
So, I am currently working on giants for my world so this is an interesting find. Crossing over from 5e and fusing the lore and stuff is interesting. All giants for my multiverse are huge creatures. The Hill Giants are the shortest but I also have packed on the weight as well. Where as Stone Giants are the tallest even above Storm Giants. (not including rune giants as I am reclassified them into a larger group of giants called Enormals which are gargantuan though I might even bring out the older rules for Colossal to fit the scale I really want them to be. So we have Artic, Forest, Mountain, Ocean, Sky, Swamp, and Volcano (Best I could come up with for a land mass for fire) They are basically what happens when a Giant is able to harnass elemental power and become one with the elements. Also working on adding 2 additional types of each giant. Frost Giant Jarl, Storm Giant Roc Rider, Fire Giant Vindicator, Hill Giant Gorger, Stone Giant Elders ect. Pulled inspiration from 4e D&D and 3.5 D&D. Also looking to do some Half Breeds as well. Stone + Fire = Basalt Giant. Also a Halfbreed player ancestries (I don't like heritages for half breeds) for Orcs and humans. Maybe a few others that seem fitting.
This is cool! Check out my Giant Religion video as well, which is kind of like a companion piece to this video.
@@TheMythkeeper Will do sir! Again thank you for the Content. Only about 5 videos in so far. Mostly creatures currently Undead, Dragons, Fey and Giants. But superb content.
Really enjoying your Pathfinder content, was searching for too long a time for someone to spin a tale with the Pathfinder lore
Thank you so much! Glad I can be of service!
Nice dive into the Giants. I found it very interesting. An Aquatic Races could be interesting. Delve into the Merfolk, Sahuagin, Aboleth for example.
Great suggestion!
You should definitely do one on the evil outsiders! Demons, Daemons, Devils, Divs, Asuras, Demodands, Sahkils, Qlippoth, etc...
That’s a three-part video and that’s coming in the next month or so
Love the content, looking forward to more creature features!
I definitely think you should do a video on goblins, they seem to hold a special place in pathfinder
I think he already covered them in his anscestries series.
@@DaDunge thanks, I'll check it out
Yep, since I covered them in my ancestry series (the Smallfolk video) I don't think I'll do a special goblins only video any time soon. That could always change in the future, but for right now I'd rather focus on those topics I haven't yet covered at all.
Now THIS is a great idea! I love Pathfinder’s giants, so thank you for starting with them.
I won’t put in a request right now because you’re probably inundated with them, but I do have an idea for whenever you get to dragons. I suggest breaking them up by type ie: chromatic, metallic, imperial, etc.
To the future!
Thanks for the advice!
Fun fact: very few of the beings called giants in mythology are actually depicted as gigantic. Eoten/jotunn are basically just like the Ese/Aesir and in fact many of the Aesir are mixed with jotunn. The Titans (at least most of them) are not depicted as being bigger than the other Greek divinities. Even the Gigantes, from whom we derive the word for giant, are not specifically described as being super large.
Yeah funny isn't it?
Not strange really. They're probably the gods of dead cultures that had a hostile relationship to the cultures who's gods we remember. My enemies gods are my gods enemies.
I am very interested in a video about Absalom.
I'm holding back on Absalom a little bit. I'm starting to get to the point where I want to make sure I don't burn through all the juicy locations right away and end up with a backlog of less popular locales that I feel obligated to fill. I definitely think the Absalom video will hopefully be worth the wait.
thanks for this information. I like the introduction from your videos because the ral world inspiration and mitology
You're very welcome!
I always thought it would be cool if we got a adventure path or book to expand on the old Cylcopean Empire and current Cylclops.
I'm definitely touching on these along the way. Some more details on the Koloran coming up in my Mendev, Brevoy, Iobaria deep-dive out in a few weeks and eventually more on the Ghol-gan when I do the Shackles.
Loved this video... I think you could do 2 or 3 videos if you do the undead
I'm gming a Blood Lords 2e ap campaign now so I've been studying pathfinder lore so I can run it well
Yes, Undead will have to be broken down into various sub categories. I could do a whole video just on vampires if I wanted to! Probably do the same for ghosts, wights and wraiths as well.
Love the vids :))), thnx for all the effort you put in them😀
Thanks for the comment and thanks so much for watching!
Great video! You also may be the first American (I presume you're American, apologies if I'm wrong) to pronounce Ireland correctly.
I'm not actually American originally, but I've been living here for a very, very long time so I my accent is *mostly* American now. 😅
Awesome video, had no idea Pathfinder had so many giant variations, creature videos sound like a good idea, will there be one regarding dragons??
Yes! Dragons are coming, have no fear!
Creature based series for RPGs are some of my favorite types of videos
Some of my favorite and hope to see videos for
Dragons because well dragons
various fey types cause I like fey and related creatures
The various outsiders though particularly interested in kytons, psychopomps and by extension Sahkil, aeon, and azata, etc are all fairly interesting
You got it... these will all come out eventually 😅
Stellar mare🖖
Oh have Trolls been done yet? I love pathfinders art.
Not yet, but trolls are coming 🙂
You put ogres in the hill giant section, but still, great video. :)
I'd love to know where you get the illustrations for them, I'd love to get my hands on a few of those for my campaigns...
Artstation, Pinterest & DeviantArt are where I go searching for pretty much all of my illustrations. Sometimes is a basic google image search.
Would love to see a video on the creatures inhabiting the Plateau of Leng as it overlaps alot with several adventure paths and has a wide variety of creatures.
Also, I would like to ask a question, are Ogres classified as Hill Giants as well?
Ogres are a distinct but related creature type which I'll actually tackle along with gnolls, trolls and bugbears and possibly a few others in a video more focused on classic D&D style monsters.
great video!
would love a video on the Pathfinder take on Aboleths.
Please make a pathfinder creature for the history of all of the different types of merfolk please
I don’t have one on merfolk scheduled yet, but I can reveal that Sahuagin appear in an upcoming creature feature in the not too distant future
Nice video!
Yeeees! And even starting with a creature that I am most interested by. Thanks a lot!
Really interested also in dragons. Are they as magical as in Dnd, where they change the enviroment they live in?
Dragons are coming!
Something on a good aligned creature would be interesting.
I think I'll be doing something along these lines as part of a series on the Empyreal Lords, covering angels, archons, azatas and agathions. That will probably wind up in my religion series rather than my creature series, but I'm actively working on some content for more good-aligned things too. 🙂
My group stumbled upon a hill giant that was very drunk and down on his luck not only was we able to get him not to fight us we got him to join us we already have a frost giant who is used to living with smaller races so he is going to be the one to teach the hill giant how to live in a city our frost giant is just happy to have another giant for company
Just start a whole human-friendly society of giants!
@@TheMythkeeper The giants did party pretty hard to the point that they had to go outside of the city to finish partying do to the common folk not happy with two giants getting drunk in the city that alone was worth it we will have to wait and see if we get anymore giants that want to join us we already have kobolds and lizardfolk so we already have a lots of races in our new kingdom
Giants likely morphed from metaphorical giants, "He's a giant in his field," into literal and vice versa. Also, anthropomorphism of natural forces is a consequence of our evolution toward being better able to read other hominids.
I love cyclopses. It makes me sad that I cant play as one. I have a really cool concept for a young cyclops oracle from Yblidos
There are definitely ways of doing this character concept over time. In 1E for example you can play a Goliath Druid that lets you take the form of a cyclops (or any giant) with Wildshape. Perhaps you appear human (with a missing eye of course) due to a curse or similar magic and you have to rediscover you power. As wildshape is hours/level usable twice by 6th level you can basically stay in your giant form indefinitely (12hrs/day). I think you can probably achieve something similar in 2E as well, you'd just have to think about it a little more or work with your GM.
I really want to do something unique with Giants in my setting. I have this idea that they were once humans who bargained with an evil god for extreme strength and power. This evil god then wanted to use them in a war against the other gods but they were all defeated, mostly thanks to Giants who defected since they realized that the path they were on would only led to suffering and eternal slavery. Because of this they were forgiven for their crimes and rewarded for their sacrifice and courage. I think it would make for a great story.
I think you're onto something here 🙂
@@TheMythkeeper Thanks for liking my idea 😄
I think you forgot about Ogres, Ettins and Trolls(Altough trolls might have a different origin according to themselves), because they are also giants.
Don't worry, those creatures are coming in a future video!
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My favorite, albeit silly, giant experience was seeing the giant in Kingmaker freeze a few people to death end then stop to figure out what happened.
Think you can do Oni who seem to mimic giants.
I hear some Tian books are coming in the near future, so expect me to do some more Tian-centric content when they come out ;-)
@@TheMythkeeper nice,
wendigoon liked that
I forget does Pathfinder have a Giant kin playable race?
No they don't, which seems like a clear oversight since Giants are pretty common-place. I would definitely like to see Giants function like Dhampir or Aasimars, as a special heritage that you can apply on any ancestry. I imagine giant-blooded Kellids and giant-blooded Orcs are probably both reasonably common combinations.
@@TheMythkeeper Strange you think Pathfinder has a Goliath type race to play a Giant kin race.
Seeing large ancesties would be cool.
Do Cliff, Forest, Jungle, Forge, River, Cave, Sun, Moon, Eclipse, and Plague giants just not have enough lore to justify their inclusion in this video?
And you forgot Wood Giants! Yes, its primarily a question of volume of lore, but also, these additional giants were released in various monster manuals whereas the 10 I focus on are covered in depth in the Pathfinder Giant Compendium that I link in the description. To me that indicated these giants represented the most, uh, 'Pathfindery' of the giants.
In my Kingmaker 2e campaign I was able to befriend a Frost Giant I am playing as a winter witch who's great grandmother is Baba Yaga I used her name to get him to back down and switch sides because I offered him a job once I get to the kingdom building part I will probably make the Frost Giant my bodyguard when I become the ruler that will make would be assassins think twice about trying to kill my winter witch lol
This sounds great. Kudos to your GM for letting you recruit a frost giant to your cause
@@TheMythkeeper You should have seen the look on my DM's face when I used my backstory to get the Frost Giant to join us it was priceless now that we are at the kingdom building part we have given him the role of being chancellor for our new kingdom and my PC who is the ruler give the Frost Giant and the rest of the party noble titles
I greatly enjoy your videos, but man you used a lot of Ogre pictures for the Hill Giants :p
How come you didnt include wood giants?
Or shadow giants! Or ogres! Because I had to keep it to 10, and these were the 10 in the original Giants Compendium and their lore seemed the most tied together.
@@TheMythkeeper Ah, makes sense 🙂 any plans to include the other hiants in anothet video?
@@larsholm8700 I know that I'll talk about Ogres in a video featuring trolls, gnolls and bugbears which I'll call "Classic RPG Monsters". I also know a tribe of Wood Giants get a mention in an upcoming deep dive about the southern mwangi expanse, so I'm hoping I'll find opportunities to pepper them in other videos. I don't think I'll get the mileage yet out of doing a "More Giants" video just yet though.
Absolutely more creature features also you failed to note how long fire Giants live
350 years or so! Agh! That's what I get for doing an unstructured format. 😂
@@TheMythkeeper No need to apologize, however, I think a frame for brief presentation would have helped. I noticed in the case of Human-ish Cretures, a short handed way of their lifespan seemed to help flesh them out quite nicely. I think the only other Giant you missed that detail on was the Marsh Giants. Other than those incredibly minor and pedantic gripes, EXCELLENT MATERIAL AS USUAL!!!
Why did you decide to leave out Ogres? They probably the most common giant for players to encounter.
Because Ogres are more of a distinct but related creature type which I'll actually tackle along with gnolls, trolls and bugbears and possibly a few others in a video more focused on classic D&D style monsters.
It's very misleading to portray the Annunaki in Sumerian and Babylonian mythology as 'giants'. They were immortal beings, often Gods and that's really all we can say for sure. The records from this time are patchy and the Sumerians didn't exactly explain their terms, which means there are a lot of words (in the context of everyday life as well as ritual and myth) that we just don't understand the full meaning of. There is a Sumerian story about the Annunaki fighting a different group of divine beings.... but the parallel you draw with Norse mythology doesn't really work. In the story the Annunaki are the powerful Gods, and it doesn't really represent the struggle of the civilised vs nature as the Norse myths do, and it ends with both groups of divine beings united on an even footing.
If you want to know more Let's Talk Religion has an excellent introduction to Mesopotamian mythology. But as it stands this intro kind of goes against a lot of what we know about this period of history (I've never seen a single scholar reference 'giants' or draw a parallel in that way for example.)
I realise this might seem picky. It isn't your focus, these videos are about pathfinder. But there's a lot of misinformation about Iraqi history online and well- You strike me as the kind of guy who'd want to know if he was accidentally adding to it.
You are absolutely correct, I don't want to mislead anyone here. It would be more accurate to say that in the steles and sculptures, some of which I include in the video, they are depicted as gigantic in scale. TBH, it may even be a misnomer to call Jotuns, Fomorians and certainly Greek Titans to be giants, since in all those cases they were sort of god-adjacent, but we seem to have simplified them in later years as simply 'giants'.
Holdon, sorry, but how can a Cyclops single eye offer better peripheral vision than human eyes? Human eyes in the animal world are pretty bad for peripheral vision, they are placed for telescopic vision in order to judge distances accurately, a result of our evolution from Brachial tree dwellers *similar* to monkeys. No, we are not evolved from monkeys, but monkeys and Hominids do have a common ancestor.
A single forward facing eye is literally the WORST possible for peripheral vision. Now potentially sharper sight is something that you could ascribe to a Cyclops, that is more to do with the eye structure. I would say one thing though, don't give a cyclops a missile weapon, with a single eye, so no telescopic vision, its not going to be judging range at all.
When it comes to peripheral vision, you want the eyes on the side of your head, look at the vast majority of herbivorous mammals (outside Monkeys, apes, Lemurs and other brachial/leaping species), and where are their eyes? That's right, on the side of their heads. Human eye position gives us a field of vision of about 180 degrees, a deer? Its around 270 degrees. At absolute best, assuming the eye is protruding significantly, a Cyclops eye will manage 180 degree vision arc. As they are not, its probably closer to a 90 degree, 45 degree to either side of the eye.....
That is a hell of an evolutionary weakness.... No wonder the needed that Oracular ability!
Maybe its like a chameleon eye and can really move around, or maybe its magic! In any case from an official lore perspective they have good peripheral vision but poor depth perception.
Jötnar (singular jötun) should be pronounced "yoht-nar" (yoh-tn).
Ymir is pronounced "ee-meer".
The correct plural of cyclops is cyclopes (pronounced "syklo-peez"). Legend has it that once they had two eyes, like other men, but struck a bargain with a dark power, sacrificing one in order to gain insight into the future...but they were betrayed, for the only vision they gained was the knowledge of their own death.
Fire giants self-identify as müspel (moo-spel); it's their idiomatic name.
Thrymr is correctly pronounced "thrimmer", not "thri-meer".
I appreciate the benevolent mindset of the altruist faction of cloud giants, but interfering in other peoples' development has never gone well historically. The pragmatist faction are not pragmatic; what they disingenuously call pragmatism is in fact a whisper-thin justification to take what they desire by force - basically a thinly-veiled excuse to go raid the shorties (us).