Just a neat little trick on the 777 merseyrail trains, you can press the door button when on approach into a station and it will open automatically when the doors are released
@@mildloser2248 Why ULCCs work in much of Europe yet struggle in the US. The ULCCs can no longer afford the slots at major US international airports. There are plenty of smaller airports in Europe that are close together that the ULCCs can thrive.
Look how terribly empty the train is! The rail companies have over-priced the tickets the point that nobody goes by train. People will take a coach, car or plane rather than paying rail fares.
Ever considered he's the first one on the train? £15 to travel 220 miles in a multi million dollar train is overpriced? What the hell do you want Jack? Make it free? Sheesh man. No wonder the Brits are known as moaners and whingers. 🙄
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Here are the actual train fares for a one-way ticket tomorrow morning: Time Fare one way in pounds 05:31 120.80 06:36 75.00 (Limited) 07:30 171.30 07:43 91.00 (limited) 08:43 75.00 09:00 114.00 Average train fare: 112 pounds one way. National Express bus 13.90 Fuel for car 25.00 - 30.00 BA flight to Manchester: 48.00. Am I moaning? A flight costs a third or a half of a train fare? Seriously?
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHuntthe super fare is 15 quid because you book a time slot which usually consists of 4 hours and the night before or sometimes the day of you'll be allocated your ticket for a train within that 4 hours. Usually one near max capacity too and has to be bought weeks in advance If you wanted to buy a single right now for today it would be 90 quid
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHuntthe super fare is 15 quid because you book a time slot which usually consists of 4 hours and the night before or sometimes the day of you'll be allocated your ticket for a train within that 4 hours. Usually one near max capacity too and has to be bought weeks in advance If you wanted to buy a single right now for today it would be 90 quid
Awesome Paul! I’ve done London to Dublin and London to Belfast by train and ferry quite a few years ago, I’d 100% do it again if I have the time to not rush. Love your work!
10 February’s ago we did the route from Euston to Holyhead to Dublin, but not overnight. Back then we did find a website to book both tickets at the same time. Though we had to change operators at Holyhead because the Irish Sea Ferries were not running that day. Swapped to Stena at no charge. Seas were a bit too rough going for my wife unfortunately, but you can’t predict the weather. We did not like that the only option out of the port was a bus operated by Stena for €5 each and we had to hike to our hotel from a random spot near Trinity College after a long day of travel.
Earlier today I watched Steve Marsh’s video of his Rome - Barcelona trip with Grimaldi Line. The contrast between that and Stena is incredible. Stena looked like a service that would be a pleasure to take. The Grimaldi service looked just awful. As for the trains, it seems like another own goal by those in charge of rolling stock procurement for the British operating companies. Why on earth do they think hard seats are what the travelling public want on long services? I’ve sampled the ‘new’ standard class seats on the refurbished Pendolinos and after an hour or so my arse was complaining so much I was wishing I was still on the Class 380 commuter train that had got me to Glasgow Central in the first place.
I remember there was a train from Paddington that terminated at Fishguard. But the ticket allowed you passage on the ferry Rosslare Europort. So you could rock up at Paddington and buy a ticket to Rosslare. From there, take the train to Dublin.
Paul you can also get rail/sail tickets from Liverpool to Belfast or Dublin without an overnight stay, Liverpool to Dublin is about £47.00 via Holyhead with railcard and to Belfast about £33.00 via Glasgow and the ferry port at Cairnryan.
The service to Dublin will resume, presumably sometime late January. Trainline and Nat Rail need to update their web pages. Both trips are probably ideal for a summer trip and are good value as a combined ticket. I think you can also vary the start point of your journey.
We haven’t done this route but have done coach and sail deals with Stena between Belfast and Cairnryan a number of times. We’ve always had a good crossing with Stena.
Stena Lounges are great. And they serve food there (for a fee) and you get free drinks and snacks, inc wine & beer. A few times when cabins were fully booked I slept in the lounge, as many other regulars did. Find a long space to lie fully flat and you’re sorted.
Thank you for making my mind up for me: I'm off to Belfast at Easter and I've dithered about rail vs flight. As a fat old man, I have decided that the less time spent in uncomfortable chairs the better and I'll be going by air. Not that this is what I'd choose if I were young.
What a great trip, reminds me about legendary trip report video from Mr. Mark Smith, but the difference is the starting point, the time, train, and maybe the ferry.
The Birkenhead/Belfast overnight Ferry has been my favourite new discovery this year. Glad I had a cabin. But it's lovely onboard. Think Stena could do something with a shuttle from Liverpool to the port. But apart from that, it's fab
Definitely with you on the 807s, they're more light and airy than the 390 Pendolinos but they've no sense of warmth or ambience. All in all though between that, the lower speed and the shorter length they seem to be a completely misguided decision. I get that the idea had been to run the shorter trains more frequently but that's been tried so many times before and never works. We keep being told that there's staff shortages and that we can't run more trains on the existing infrastructure so it's about time we made sure every train we run is as long as can be to increase capacity as best we can in the short term. The ferry on the other hand, those ferries are absolutely fantastic. Excellent atmosphere, loads of space, plenty of options for every budget. I only wish more routes existed. I'd love to see overnight ferry routes to Cobh or even to Galway.
They were designed to replace the Voyagers on London - North Wales. They're designed for 125 mph, it's only because they're not fitted with tilt that they can't use that speed on some parts of the route where Pendos can
@AndreiTupolev It's the 5 carriage class 805s which are to replace the voyagers on the Holyhead route (also a poor replacement in my opinion but not a downgrade in capacity thankfully). The 7 carriage 807s are to replace 9/11 carriage Pendolinos on the Liverpool route. Add to that the lower speed (regardless of cause) and much worse onboard experience and you've got a far inferior product.
'Lit up like a dental surgery' is exactly right! They need a lighting consultant. I liked your measured Euston description as well, by the way - it's definitely a case of the original brutalist vision being compromised!
Hate to be that guy with the ACKCHERLEE comment, but these aren't replacing the Pendolino trains, rather the Class 221 Voyagers which, I hope, should be a vast improvement!
They’re replacing Pendolinos on the Liverpool route, which has never seen Voyagers. The 807 is a fully electric train and is not (in the strictest sense!) a Voyager replacement. The 805 is a bimode and is what you’re thinking of in terms of replacing the 221s!
A great trip except a 20-minute walk from the subway/metro to the port in the dark would eliminate this itinerary for me as an older woman solo traveler. And I’ve seen in videos from Steve Marsh and Scott at Planes, Trains that the walks to most ferry ports are not pedestrian friendly, sadly. Happy Christmas to you.
Hi Marcus - that says a huge amount for Amtrak 😀.Standards in UK premium rail travel are "very varied" and as a approx figure they change £1.50 a mile!
You can actually get a rail ticket that includes Stena Line ferry to Belfast, from my home in Northumberland you get a rail and bus service to Cairn Ryan, then the Stena ferry to Belfast Port where you can get a bus service into Belfast city centre, this would cost me a total of £33.90 using my Senior Railcard for a one way journey on the 22nd January. Same journey from London Euston to Belfast including Stena Ferry £59.00 with railcard.
A very interesting video, thanks. Don't think I will be in a hurry to travel on an Avero. Can't really see the advantage when they are slower than the Super Voyagers they are intended to replace 🤔 Bit odd there is no direct public transport link to the ferry terminal at Birkenhead 🤔 Interesting that the bus that took you onto the ship was Stagecoach. Presume this was somehow removed before departure. More confusing is the Stena Line bus taking you off, thinks it's going to Small Heath in Birmingham, looking at the destination 😂
@ I assumed that however it would’ve been good to have filmed part of it as it appears to be not a pleasant walk looking at the map. Like a lot of ferry ports it’s not designed for pedestrians and there is no bus service around the time that the ferry comes in from Ireland in the morning, for example. or is it the other way round in the evening when the ferry goes out. Either way this part of the video was missing.
Thats right Steve most have crap departure /arrival times bar the overnight Hull to Rotterdam. The worst I think is the Rosslare to Pembroke, docks at 2:15 am. most people then have a long drive home like me. I did it once, and that was the first and last.
Merry Christmas 🎄 Paul. Thanks for a nice video. It is too bad though that there wasn't a few more passengers on that pretty train. You want to travel 🧳 and meet different people along the way. I know you do 🙀 but just a note 💝🇺🇸
Thanks Paul...always love your more affordable travel videos such as this, although I don't live in the UK or even the EU for that matter but still love these videos. Another UK travel vlogger I follow I swear has never travelled anything less than Business Class by any transport means rail, train, or plane.
Have to question why the pendos are being replaced. Slower top speed. Slower through certain sections due to no tilting. Does the quicker acceleration really make a difference to the slower overall speeds
Similar to the GWR services I travel on. They haven't aged well - the seats are uncomfortable and the toilet design is awful - they might look ok but when you use the sink the water goes everywhere and leaves it a mess in practice.
It's a gangway. And that's a flag of convenience. If your ferry is not flying the flag of one of the scheduled port states, there is something fishy going on. Hopefully only tax "optimisation".
Having just returned from UK and china and a few train journeys, this really does seem like watching a toy train. Flimsy, uncomfortable, cramped, slow. Trains in china rattle along at 345kmh and you barely feel it moving. Wide comfortable reclining seats. 36 platform mega stations. Food options everywhere including on board. Yes I know it's Victorian legacy infrastructure in UK. But it tells you where the future is. Not in the land of toy trains. If you're into trains go to China for a trip. Mind-blowing investment in infrastructure.
I think speed has taken over in priority. But i would prefer a more leisurely trip with a dining car and table service like the old pullman style. As a fan of railways , the Train itself is just as important as the destination.
Trains in the UK are an absolute mess, and it’s such a shame. Years of overpriced tickets, awful service, and uncomfortable trains have really taken their toll. No wonder they’re often empty-flying is cheaper, and almost anything else is a better, more affordable option. I’ve taken trains all over the world, and it’s shocking how much better they are pretty much everywhere else. In most developed countries-and even in parts of the developing world-trains are cheaper, more reliable, and something you actually want to use. How did we let things get this bad in the UK? Oh wait… Paul, great video as always 😊
So is there no ‘rail & sail’ ticket option, as there is for travel to the Isle of Man via train and ferry on a combined ticket? The Isle of Man can’t be the only destination that does these rail and sail tickets, is it?
I wish I had more reasons to sail on Stena! Maybe I could convince my girlfriend for road trips in Ireland...! Stena are by far my second favourite transportation method after Virgin Atlantic. Their super friendly staff, amazing ships like Edda, Embla and Adventurer are always clean and fresh. They look out for those with hidden disabilities like myself and make travel super easy. I always feel relaxed sailing with them and even considered changing careers! Thank you for an amazing video Paul and I'm sure Stena Line will be very happy to watch it as well!
I do 5 hours door to door from London to Northern Ireland by plane pretty frequently. Can’t see the point in taking a ferry unless you’re taking a car.
What? Not taking the coach to Stranrear and crossing to Larne? Perhaps that should be the return route. Given that I can fly, return, for considerably less than the single ferry fare is also a significant factor in deciding how to travel. I'm currently sitting in the countryside near Antrim remembering why I stopped using the ferries years ago.
The Swedish meatballs look like reason enough to take the ferry! Irn Bru is the elixir of eternal youth - it's a natural embalming agent. We took the ferry from Bootle to Dublin when I was around 7 or so. My mum, my brother and I got seasick, my brother ended up with sick all over his shoes and my parents said Never again. I have a friend who recently moved to Belfast - I might give the ferry a go when it's time to visit. It looks loads better than the HMS Chunder I took to Dublin as a little girl.
If you can face an early start from Euston ( approx 8.30 am)go via Holyhead to Dublin Approx £65..and then catch the Belfast train ( + Euros) to Ulster's recently opened Belfast Central. About 14hrs. 6am disembarkation leaves you in a large industrial estate outside a city that is still shut . Old ferries took you into the centre at Donegal Quay.
Hold on, you get proper hot breakfasts served on proper plates, real cutlery, cups, glasses with LNER - certainly between Inverness and Edinburgh. And a hot meal again served on proper plates, cutlery, glasses and cups coming back up to Inverness. The First Class is extremely popular with people living in and around Inverness for a day out in Edinburgh mostly due to the complimentary hot food, snacks, hot drinks, cold drinks (including alcohol). I have done that many times and it is well worth the money when you include the meals.
I used to watch the trains whizzing past at Harrow & Wealdstone Station when I was a kid. You could enter the station platforms those days as there were no tickets barriers in the late 80's.
I travelled on one from Preston to New Street a few.days ago. I feel it's a.step back from the Pendelino. Not as comfortable. I didn't know they were slower. What's the point in that?
Hi Paul another great review. So Avanti are replacing reclining seats in 1st and Standard Premier? Yet another thumbs down for them. Would welcome more detail if this is going to spread to the rest of their fleet. At full price these tickets are not cheap!! £540 Manchester to Euston. Thanks.
I'd never buy full price tickets. I'm seeing Avanti Advance Single fares Manchester Piccadilly - London Euston on C49475 for only £53. Which is cheap to travel 220 miles in a new multi million dollar train really.
I did this trip in reverse back in May, with the balcony double cabin, worth it for the giant round porthole and comfy chairs alone. So nice that we didn’t leave the room as we’d eaten in Belfast, so never saw the rest of the ship, next time for sure! The amenities are much the same, glad you got those free biscuits in the superior cabin too, they were amazing!
Great if you can't fly, otherwise I'll pay my £45 and take the plane for an hour or so. Belfast City Airport is so close to the centre a day trip is easy to do.
Not using the Liverpool - Belfast route there isn't. There are ones using Cairnryan - Belfast and Holyhead - Dublin, but for some reason not Liverpool.
Didn't know you was a kopite second best football team FFS were the oldest football team in Liverpool and soon to be in a brand new world class stadium one of the league founders and our history didn't start in the 60s we have a proper history apart from that nice video Paul UTFT💙
First Class seating on modern trains is absolutely appalling. Why is it so difficult to get it right? If they offer First Class then they should provide first class, especially considering the huge prices they charge.
I loved: "lit up like a dental surgery".
Just a neat little trick on the 777 merseyrail trains, you can press the door button when on approach into a station and it will open automatically when the doors are released
I never knew!
@@Paul_Lucas also works on most trams too press the door its also a bell and when stops the door opens
That feature has been disabled now I believe.
Years and years ago, all door buttons were level-sensitive like that. The modern edge-sensitive ones are a bane.
The fact is a flight on a low cost airline and a hotel in Belfast for night is so much cheaper. It is a shame but that’s the way it is.
it really is insane how cheap ryanair have gotten prices while how expensive rail privatization has been.
@@mildloser2248 Why ULCCs work in much of Europe yet struggle in the US. The ULCCs can no longer afford the slots at major US international airports. There are plenty of smaller airports in Europe that are close together that the ULCCs can thrive.
@@mildloser2248you mean how expensive our trade unionised railways are due to insurmountable inefficiencies!
@@full_chat3721ahh, of course..
Always beat down the worker and blame him for everything..
Classic Britain..
I remember when a flight between Belfast City & Belfast international was cheaper than a taxi!
Look how terribly empty the train is! The rail companies have over-priced the tickets the point that nobody goes by train. People will take a coach, car or plane rather than paying rail fares.
Ever considered he's the first one on the train? £15 to travel 220 miles in a multi million dollar train is overpriced? What the hell do you want Jack? Make it free? Sheesh man. No wonder the Brits are known as moaners and whingers. 🙄
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Here are the actual train fares for a one-way ticket tomorrow morning:
Time Fare one way in pounds
05:31 120.80
06:36 75.00 (Limited)
07:30 171.30
07:43 91.00 (limited)
08:43 75.00
09:00 114.00
Average train fare: 112 pounds one way.
National Express bus 13.90
Fuel for car 25.00 - 30.00
BA flight to Manchester: 48.00.
Am I moaning? A flight costs a third or a half of a train fare? Seriously?
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHuntthe super fare is 15 quid because you book a time slot which usually consists of 4 hours and the night before or sometimes the day of you'll be allocated your ticket for a train within that 4 hours. Usually one near max capacity too and has to be bought weeks in advance
If you wanted to buy a single right now for today it would be 90 quid
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHuntthe super fare is 15 quid because you book a time slot which usually consists of 4 hours and the night before or sometimes the day of you'll be allocated your ticket for a train within that 4 hours. Usually one near max capacity too and has to be bought weeks in advance
If you wanted to buy a single right now for today it would be 90 quid
Awesome Paul! I’ve done London to Dublin and London to Belfast by train and ferry quite a few years ago, I’d 100% do it again if I have the time to not rush. Love your work!
Nice trip to Belfast using train and ferry. Good accommodations!
Thanks Paul.🥰👍👍👌👌🎄🎄
10 February’s ago we did the route from Euston to Holyhead to Dublin, but not overnight. Back then we did find a website to book both tickets at the same time. Though we had to change operators at Holyhead because the Irish Sea Ferries were not running that day. Swapped to Stena at no charge. Seas were a bit too rough going for my wife unfortunately, but you can’t predict the weather. We did not like that the only option out of the port was a bus operated by Stena for €5 each and we had to hike to our hotel from a random spot near Trinity College after a long day of travel.
Thanks for your honest opinion 😊 and I really liked that ferry!
“Liverpool’s second best football team” - I’m screaming, so true Paul x
lol. unsubbed
That'll be Tranmere Rovers then.
@@robmontier3770careful describing the Wirral as Liverpool 😂
Earlier today I watched Steve Marsh’s video of his Rome - Barcelona trip with Grimaldi Line. The contrast between that and Stena is incredible. Stena looked like a service that would be a pleasure to take. The Grimaldi service looked just awful. As for the trains, it seems like another own goal by those in charge of rolling stock procurement for the British operating companies. Why on earth do they think hard seats are what the travelling public want on long services? I’ve sampled the ‘new’ standard class seats on the refurbished Pendolinos and after an hour or so my arse was complaining so much I was wishing I was still on the Class 380 commuter train that had got me to Glasgow Central in the first place.
Thanks for sharing your travel journeys with us Paul. They help a great deal in scratching that travel itch while watching these from home.
Love your work Paul...great job....look forward to to your next vlog ..thanks so much
I remember there was a train from Paddington that terminated at Fishguard. But the ticket allowed you passage on the ferry Rosslare Europort. So you could rock up at Paddington and buy a ticket to Rosslare. From there, take the train to Dublin.
This still exists for most stations in England/Wales to Holyhead, then Irish Ferries or Stena Line to Dublin. Less than £60 all in if I remember
It’s cool and probably more environmentally friendly but I bet it cost more and took ages. Fair enough though for this type of exercise. Cool video
The ferry journey is definitely the best bit of the journey imho. Side note, have Avanti actually done ANYTHING good since they took over?
It's called a "Gangway."
Paul you can also get rail/sail tickets from Liverpool to Belfast or Dublin without an overnight stay, Liverpool to Dublin is about £47.00 via Holyhead with railcard and to Belfast about £33.00 via Glasgow and the ferry port at Cairnryan.
Holyhead Port to remain closed until 15th January.
The service to Dublin will resume, presumably sometime late January. Trainline and Nat Rail need to update their web pages. Both trips are probably ideal for a summer trip and are good value as a combined ticket. I think you can also vary the start point of your journey.
something about your vids that helps me chill and be informed. seasons best to you
We haven’t done this route but have done coach and sail deals with Stena between Belfast and Cairnryan a number of times. We’ve always had a good crossing with Stena.
Stena Lounges are great. And they serve food there (for a fee) and you get free drinks and snacks, inc wine & beer. A few times when cabins were fully booked I slept in the lounge, as many other regulars did. Find a long space to lie fully flat and you’re sorted.
Thank you for making my mind up for me: I'm off to Belfast at Easter and I've dithered about rail vs flight.
As a fat old man, I have decided that the less time spent in uncomfortable chairs the better and I'll be going by air. Not that this is what I'd choose if I were young.
What a nice ferry. I´ll note this for my next trips to the isles!
Great video Paul, totally agree, the Ship was amazing. Plus the food looked nice & fulfilling. Also not a bad price.
What a great trip, reminds me about legendary trip report video from Mr. Mark Smith, but the difference is the starting point, the time, train, and maybe the ferry.
I worked at the factory in Birmingham where the 390 fleet was made, Great trains made for 40+ years of service.
£212 is pretty good really.
Tho it's hard to ignore that flying STN - BFS is almost free at £15.
Great video, great script, and some good, well chosen background music.
Merry Christmas Paul ❤🎄
The Birkenhead/Belfast overnight Ferry has been my favourite new discovery this year. Glad I had a cabin. But it's lovely onboard. Think Stena could do something with a shuttle from Liverpool to the port. But apart from that, it's fab
Definitely with you on the 807s, they're more light and airy than the 390 Pendolinos but they've no sense of warmth or ambience. All in all though between that, the lower speed and the shorter length they seem to be a completely misguided decision.
I get that the idea had been to run the shorter trains more frequently but that's been tried so many times before and never works. We keep being told that there's staff shortages and that we can't run more trains on the existing infrastructure so it's about time we made sure every train we run is as long as can be to increase capacity as best we can in the short term.
The ferry on the other hand, those ferries are absolutely fantastic. Excellent atmosphere, loads of space, plenty of options for every budget. I only wish more routes existed. I'd love to see overnight ferry routes to Cobh or even to Galway.
They were designed to replace the Voyagers on London - North Wales. They're designed for 125 mph, it's only because they're not fitted with tilt that they can't use that speed on some parts of the route where Pendos can
@AndreiTupolev It's the 5 carriage class 805s which are to replace the voyagers on the Holyhead route (also a poor replacement in my opinion but not a downgrade in capacity thankfully). The 7 carriage 807s are to replace 9/11 carriage Pendolinos on the Liverpool route.
Add to that the lower speed (regardless of cause) and much worse onboard experience and you've got a far inferior product.
Great vlog as always! I love ferries too! Keep up the good work. Be safe!
'Lit up like a dental surgery' is exactly right! They need a lighting consultant. I liked your measured Euston description as well, by the way - it's definitely a case of the original brutalist vision being compromised!
Hate to be that guy with the ACKCHERLEE comment, but these aren't replacing the Pendolino trains, rather the Class 221 Voyagers which, I hope, should be a vast improvement!
They’re replacing Pendolinos on the Liverpool route, which has never seen Voyagers. The 807 is a fully electric train and is not (in the strictest sense!) a Voyager replacement. The 805 is a bimode and is what you’re thinking of in terms of replacing the 221s!
Only in the UK can trains get slower 🤣
First with Concorde and now with trains - we are going backwards!
Well, Canadian trains can't, because they were never that fast in the first place... *sigh*
A great trip except a 20-minute walk from the subway/metro to the port in the dark would eliminate this itinerary for me as an older woman solo traveler. And I’ve seen in videos from Steve Marsh and Scott at Planes, Trains that the walks to most ferry ports are not pedestrian friendly, sadly. Happy Christmas to you.
A taxi from Liverpool centre is to the Stena terminal isn’t too expensive and much more convenient
@@helenstory9924yes, you can taxi it and it’s fine. Plenty of people do this :))
Great thanks for sharing I never being on one those ferry before 😊😊😊😊😊 thanks for showing me how to book and travel
I did the trip but the london to liverpool but by coach last summer. Great experience
Thanks for this video! Really informative.
I live in the USA Amtrak is our train service horrible every train I’ve used in the UK is luxury in comparison
Hi Marcus - that says a huge amount for Amtrak 😀.Standards in UK premium rail travel are "very varied" and as a approx figure they change £1.50 a mile!
You can actually get a rail ticket that includes Stena Line ferry to Belfast, from my home in Northumberland you get a rail and bus service to Cairn Ryan, then the Stena ferry to Belfast Port where you can get a bus service into Belfast city centre, this would cost me a total of £33.90 using my Senior Railcard for a one way journey on the 22nd January.
Same journey from London Euston to Belfast including Stena Ferry £59.00 with railcard.
Thanks Paul that was a super interesting video 👍
A very interesting video, thanks. Don't think I will be in a hurry to travel on an Avero. Can't really see the advantage when they are slower than the Super Voyagers they are intended to replace 🤔
Bit odd there is no direct public transport link to the ferry terminal at Birkenhead 🤔
Interesting that the bus that took you onto the ship was Stagecoach. Presume this was somehow removed before departure. More confusing is the Stena Line bus taking you off, thinks it's going to Small Heath in Birmingham, looking at the destination 😂
Paul
You arrived early morning 6.30am.
What you didn't say was what recommended options.
Did you book into a hotel?
How did you get from Hamilton square to the ferry termynal
He walked. 20 mins apparently.
@ I assumed that however it would’ve been good to have filmed part of it as it appears to be not a pleasant walk looking at the map. Like a lot of ferry ports it’s not designed for pedestrians and there is no bus service around the time that the ferry comes in from Ireland in the morning, for example. or is it the other way round in the evening when the ferry goes out. Either way this part of the video was missing.
Ferries all arrive far to early for my liking - they should circle around a bit and dock at 10am or so! 🙂
Thats right Steve most have crap departure /arrival times bar the overnight Hull to Rotterdam. The worst I think is the Rosslare to Pembroke, docks at 2:15 am. most people then have a long drive home like me. I did it once, and that was the first and last.
Do the 805s have recline and the 807s not? I remember in 1st on the 805s you could pull that grey square and the seat base would pull out or push in.
I love the ferry content on this channel. Also, I’m more interested than ever to visit Belfast.
It's a Brilliant City and the people are really warm and genuine.
Please do come, it’s a beautiful city.
@@wintersnowowen2254 I second that 👍👍
Free is my favorite price too!!!❤
That ferry looks great❤🎉
The "superior cabin" is like a standard cabin on the route beteween Stockholm - Helsinki with Viking Line or Tallink Silja
Merry Christmas 🎄 Paul. Thanks for a nice video. It is too bad though that there wasn't a few more passengers on that pretty train. You want to travel 🧳 and meet different people along the way. I know you do 🙀 but just a note 💝🇺🇸
Thanks Paul...always love your more affordable travel videos such as this, although I don't live in the UK or even the EU for that matter but still love these videos. Another UK travel vlogger I follow I swear has never travelled anything less than Business Class by any transport means rail, train, or plane.
If there were a through ticketing option to make the journey cheaper, could you then use a fare splitting app to make it cheaper still?
the ferry bridge is called a gangway
Have to question why the pendos are being replaced.
Slower top speed. Slower through certain sections due to no tilting.
Does the quicker acceleration really make a difference to the slower overall speeds
Good video. Rather impressed by that trip. I'd consider that as an alternative to flyjng.
220 GBP? Can’t imagine doing this over a 90 minute Easyjet/Ryanair flight for $40.
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Lovely film Paul, thank you . Have you changed camera or is my YT clipping the highlights? It feels quite “contrasty!”
The auto processing did a job with this one I wasn’t expecting - will correct it for the next upload!
@@Paul_Lucasah! I wondered as every time I shoot pro-res on the iPhone I have that issue and have to Google how to fix it in Premiere!
Similar to the GWR services I travel on. They haven't aged well - the seats are uncomfortable and the toilet design is awful - they might look ok but when you use the sink the water goes everywhere and leaves it a mess in practice.
It's a gangway.
And that's a flag of convenience. If your ferry is not flying the flag of one of the scheduled port states, there is something fishy going on. Hopefully only tax "optimisation".
Pickled onion? You're fired! lol
Having just returned from UK and china and a few train journeys, this really does seem like watching a toy train. Flimsy, uncomfortable, cramped, slow. Trains in china rattle along at 345kmh and you barely feel it moving. Wide comfortable reclining seats. 36 platform mega stations. Food options everywhere including on board. Yes I know it's Victorian legacy infrastructure in UK. But it tells you where the future is. Not in the land of toy trains. If you're into trains go to China for a trip. Mind-blowing investment in infrastructure.
the 805/807 is replacing the 221s and some of the 390s
Brussel sprout slaw? Your dedication to trying stuff so we don't have to is unbounded sir!
Corners Paul? lol! It’s ok I’m a train driver! Great vid again! Thanks mate
I think speed has taken over in priority. But i would prefer a more leisurely trip with a dining car and table service like the old pullman style. As a fan of railways , the Train itself is just as important as the destination.
Trains in the UK are an absolute mess, and it’s such a shame. Years of overpriced tickets, awful service, and uncomfortable trains have really taken their toll. No wonder they’re often empty-flying is cheaper, and almost anything else is a better, more affordable option.
I’ve taken trains all over the world, and it’s shocking how much better they are pretty much everywhere else. In most developed countries-and even in parts of the developing world-trains are cheaper, more reliable, and something you actually want to use. How did we let things get this bad in the UK? Oh wait…
Paul, great video as always 😊
Euston is a dump of a station to be sure.
It's made to look even worse by its next door neighbour, St Pancras, which is a beautiful station.
Really! TH-cam coverage of something my family have been doing for over a century. 😂
What next? The Old Kent Road by penny-farthing?!😂
It's almost as though other people have difference experiences to you.
@ No, really? 🤣
So is there no ‘rail & sail’ ticket option, as there is for travel to the Isle of Man via train and ferry on a combined ticket?
The Isle of Man can’t be the only destination that does these rail and sail tickets, is it?
Stena 'Rail Sail' combined ticket route is via Port of Ayr
There is a TH-camr under KUGA'S TRAVEL and he has done some pretty LUXURIOUS Ferries in JAPAN.
Coincidentally, I've only just made this trip on Sunday gone.
Solid review, looks like fun!
I wish I had more reasons to sail on Stena! Maybe I could convince my girlfriend for road trips in Ireland...!
Stena are by far my second favourite transportation method after Virgin Atlantic. Their super friendly staff, amazing ships like Edda, Embla and Adventurer are always clean and fresh.
They look out for those with hidden disabilities like myself and make travel super easy. I always feel relaxed sailing with them and even considered changing careers!
Thank you for an amazing video Paul and I'm sure Stena Line will be very happy to watch it as well!
I do 5 hours door to door from London to Northern Ireland by plane pretty frequently. Can’t see the point in taking a ferry unless you’re taking a car.
If you detest airports and hate planes and the muppets in both as much as I do then Ferries are great.
What? Not taking the coach to Stranrear and crossing to Larne?
Perhaps that should be the return route.
Given that I can fly, return, for considerably less than the single ferry fare is also a significant factor in deciding how to travel.
I'm currently sitting in the countryside near Antrim remembering why I stopped using the ferries years ago.
Cairnryan, not Stranraer.
All ferries now leave from Cairnryan.
The Swedish meatballs look like reason enough to take the ferry! Irn Bru is the elixir of eternal youth - it's a natural embalming agent.
We took the ferry from Bootle to Dublin when I was around 7 or so. My mum, my brother and I got seasick, my brother ended up with sick all over his shoes and my parents said Never again. I have a friend who recently moved to Belfast - I might give the ferry a go when it's time to visit. It looks loads better than the HMS Chunder I took to Dublin as a little girl.
If you can face an early start from Euston ( approx 8.30 am)go via Holyhead to Dublin Approx £65..and then catch the Belfast train ( + Euros) to Ulster's recently opened Belfast Central. About 14hrs. 6am disembarkation leaves you in a large industrial estate outside a city that is still shut . Old ferries took you into the centre at Donegal Quay.
Hold on, you get proper hot breakfasts served on proper plates, real cutlery, cups, glasses with LNER - certainly between Inverness and Edinburgh. And a hot meal again served on proper plates, cutlery, glasses and cups coming back up to Inverness. The First Class is extremely popular with people living in and around Inverness for a day out in Edinburgh mostly due to the complimentary hot food, snacks, hot drinks, cold drinks (including alcohol). I have done that many times and it is well worth the money when you include the meals.
Avanti does the same in their first class too - but better, in my opinion!
I used to watch the trains whizzing past at Harrow & Wealdstone Station when I was a kid. You could enter the station platforms those days as there were no tickets barriers in the late 80's.
The food looks yummy ❤
Would the rail sale fare not work ?
Stena 'Rail Sail' combined ticket route is via Port of Ayr
I always thought this was a 'Rail Sail' route with combined tickets,
Stena 'Rail Sail' combined ticket route is via Port of Ayr
I travelled on one from Preston to New Street a few.days ago. I feel it's a.step back from the Pendelino. Not as comfortable. I didn't know they were slower. What's the point in that?
It's making me hungry ❤
Should really give Japanese long distance ferry a go
Hi Paul another great review. So Avanti are replacing reclining seats in 1st and Standard Premier? Yet another thumbs down for them. Would welcome more detail if this is going to spread to the rest of their fleet. At full price these tickets are not cheap!! £540 Manchester to Euston. Thanks.
I'd never buy full price tickets. I'm seeing Avanti Advance Single fares Manchester Piccadilly - London Euston on C49475 for only £53. Which is cheap to travel 220 miles in a new multi million dollar train really.
I did this trip in reverse back in May, with the balcony double cabin, worth it for the giant round porthole and comfy chairs alone. So nice that we didn’t leave the room as we’d eaten in Belfast, so never saw the rest of the ship, next time for sure! The amenities are much the same, glad you got those free biscuits in the superior cabin too, they were amazing!
I’m jealous you got the balcony cabin! They were sold out on this crossing.
Great if you can't fly, otherwise I'll pay my £45 and take the plane for an hour or so. Belfast City Airport is so close to the centre a day trip is easy to do.
Isn't there a Rail N' Sail deal between London & Belfast?
there is one between london and dublin
Not using the Liverpool - Belfast route there isn't. There are ones using Cairnryan - Belfast and Holyhead - Dublin, but for some reason not Liverpool.
£6.50 is not a meal deal; that's shopping.
Ha ha ha! The automatically generated subtitles announce that you you are at the London Houston train station
Make the journey part of the trip
Very enjoyable, thank you.
Will you stop with low carbon!! Buses trains and ferry's not to mention time,compared to a 40 minute flight on a modern engine 737 max or 320 neo
Lots of people can't fly for various reasons, so it's an alternative, regardless as to whether you personally use it or not.
Didn't know you was a kopite second best football team FFS were the oldest football team in Liverpool and soon to be in a brand new world class stadium one of the league founders and our history didn't start in the 60s we have a proper history apart from that nice video Paul UTFT💙
1995
First Class seating on modern trains is absolutely appalling. Why is it so difficult to get it right? If they offer First Class then they should provide first class, especially considering the huge prices they charge.
Well done on saying what a lot of us think about the lacklustre, non tilt 80Xs
I can't see Standard Premium class catching on.
It’s very popular on some routes!
If it actually has good seats... Imagine them putting in the ICE 4 seats from Germany at a 20 pound upcharge, even at a 2+2 layout xD.
What you go to Liverpool and no refrefrance about your beloved Liverpool FC