Using Up ALL of your Filament In a Functional Way -
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- Finding ways to use up all my leftover filament from spools as i have been collecting it for a while now :)
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Empty spools also make a good way of storing extension cords, christmas lights, rope, anything that needs to be wound up for storage. Good video. Now, put your hands on the table and leave them there. :)
Subscribed. about time someone gets into the practical and untold side of 3D printing.
Thank you :)
Very cool video. Have a question. How do you join all of those little pieces of filament together?
BUT WHAT ABOUT ALL THE RUBBER BANDS YOU'LL NEED??? heh. Dude, great video on this, and great use of the Palette! You know I need to do this BADLY.
I love how 3D printing brings out so much creativity. Great video.
Sorry if this has been said already but why if using the same colour and manufacture dont you join the filiments together could be a intresting video i do this with my waste and its a great way to finish a reel or even help if you dont have enough on one reel to start a long print .thanks for the great videos
I love the ideas, we do have a recycling program in our building, "but better to reuse then depend on the program!" Thumbs up to you Joe.
I do love how you used the empty spools to illustrate your point! I also love the screw holder/compartment.
Fantastic video Joe. I love the spool drawers, looking forward to further developments.
As you know, I've been watching #Masterspool with a lot of excitement, it's an outstanding concept, couple that with the astounding speed that Das Filament put it into production. This is sure to catch on as the only way to buy filament very soon. There is simply zero downsides. Richard really is a genius.
I really like the concept of the masterspool and since das Filament is my usual place to get filament, that's a even bigger plus!
Great ideas, great video mate! I'm really in love with the way 3D printing brings our ideas out of our brain to the real world!
I think it's about time the manufacturers start selling "Refill" instead of complete spools...
The refills cost more than a full spool...
Why pay more for filament without the spool when the spools are potentially useful?
What? No. Actually no. DasFilament sells 800gramm full Spools and Refills with 850gramm for the same price. And actually DasFilament has a "Little Masterspool" on Thingiverse which needs around 50gramm of Filament. Conclusion: with the second Refill you have the Advantage and no waste from the beginning.
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@Lee If there is no option for recycling its bad. Plus if less spools are needed the less plastic is used and shipping weight, as he said, goes down.
@@fhuber7507where i buy refill it is always 5-8 bucks cheaper, but they don't have all brands and materials as a refill.
All the color combos are cool as hell.
Great usage of filament rests. As soon I get my MK3 MMU I can use it as you mentioned with the Pallet+
I use empty spools to wrap Christmas lights, and extension cords. However, we all only have so many strings of lights and extension cords...lol.
I love how people are working on Problem an therefore everything is moving forward! I am going to print the master Spool right now!
I love the ideas ! Thanks for sharing them.
Great video, I really like the look of those mixed up colors on the spools. I think I'm going to do the same thing
Awesome video ! I am a 3D printing newbie and will move to spooless filament soon.
Before getting into 3D printing, I thought I would have at most 3 types of filament. But now I realize I need a different color for each project and different plastics for different use cases. So even with less than a month in the space, I can already relate to not knowing what to do with the left overs.
this video is by far the best video I've watched about general 3D printing issues.
when I have extra, I save them for projects that I know I'll end up painting over. I just fuse the ends together when it gets low and keep running it. it helps eliminate waste, gets a project done, and it's not noticeable sense I paint over it.
That's some great uses for the bits left on the spools and the spools themselves. 👍
Thats awesome! Wish a shop in Norway did that!
This is an utterly fantastic idea, I may start using DAS filament from now on and print one off these up. When I started 3d printing, spool wastage is a huge concern
I like that you addressed the problem of all of us 3D printers having that little bit of filament leftover and way to use it up. However I dislike that you never mentioned that your using two printers with filament empty detection. For people who do not have this feature; thats point is then mute. The alternative is to basically watch your printer like a hawk and when the remnants of one spool runs out you have to feed the next one into the extruder. I've done this before; it's not quite so fun. I rather instead measure the amount of filament I have in feet or mm and use S3D's filament use quote to print something to use up that specific amount instead. Edit: I'm also aware that some splicing technology out there exists for joining spools but its not so far along as to where I'd call it dependable and avoiding diameter issues that might cause a jam.
Just amazing, I wish my filament came like this, let's hope major manufacturers picks this up...
Great idea, as long as all filament manufacturers uses the same standard sizes. If they don't I can see this being more trouble than it is worth.
Thank you Maker Noob for this great video! That is definitely the coolest MasterSpool on planet :D
I feel better just for having watched this video. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks Joe, great stuff. Funny, I've now seen 2 people other than myself who've ordered the dasfiliment refills. Looks like we all chose the same colour :) I'm working on adapting the eSun spools to work with refills.Rich and eSun are across this also. Cheers, JAYTEE
You should stick some little neodymium button magnets on the inside of your circular storage bin to hold it closed simply
Excellent and well presented!
Very cool concept I like this and hope others jump on board.
One of your best videos. Thanks!
Lots of great information and ideas here. Thanks
I'm very new to 3d printing and I think this is an amazing idea. I do have one concern though and it might just be my own personal experience. When I buy a 1kg spool of filament and weigh it it weighs right around 1kg. However, when I weigh the empty spool it usually is somewhere between 50 and 100gm. This means I was not being sold 1kg of filament but 1kg of filament and spool combined. Going this route will mean that filament manufacturers will actually have to start shipping 1kg of filament when they sell 1kg of filament. Not in their best interest. This will then raise the filament prices. It'd be better if they sold it by length instead of weight. What I would like to see is a spool "buy back" program. Either that or a compostable spool (my preference).
really like this video, I hope more people adopt the master spool concept.
Excellent, as always Joe! It would be awesome if a creator would come out with a relatively easy and inexpensive splicer for combining these short rolls. And, a way to use them (on dual extruder machines) strictly for infill and support. :-)
@RonFloyd not sure where your based but Amazon have a few plug in filament joiners here in the UK for around £70-80 while not super cheap if u constantly have lots of left over bits may be worth a look
@@samlloyd5975 - Thanks Sam. I'll look into that.
Now that it's starting to get humid again here, I did finally notice a great use for the Master Spool other than reducing spool clutter: They're full of holes on the sides! I don't just mean for inserting filament or saving material, but for airflow. If you use PETG or a high-temp PLA, these would be just about perfect for tossing into a dehydrator.
At my son's elementary school students design charms for mother's day and ornaments for Xmas. We take donations of filament of anything 1 meter or larger for their projects.
Amazing Concept
I am looking to get a 3d printer in about a week and this is going to be one of the first things I print after all calibrations and test prints are done
Okay...so...I have found a reliable way to attach one length of filament to another, and I think this is useful, if you don't mind a rainbow spool. You just cut a bowden tube with a wide angle, and then you use a candle to stretch the end of the each length. The you cut them, heat them both, and then force them through the tube. This links them VERY firmly together. In this way, you can take most of your left overs and make one functional spool.
All very good ideas! Being very new to this (still on my 1st spool) I got concerned about the splicing aspect. If I was running say 3 meters into my Tevo Tornado I would think I would have to be watching it so I could pause the print then insert the next piece of filament. Also, would the 2nd piece push the remainder of the 1st one through the extruder?
I wouldn't call this a solution to scrap filament by itself. The Palette+ and the MK3's runout sensor definitely could be considered such, since if you were determined enough, you could throw every odd snip you've made (minus any kinks they may have) into either, and just keep on going. I think a more practical and affordable solution would be a jig for manually fusing lines to be re-spooled and printed in one continuous feed.
I've seen a couple such jigs, but they relied on a soldering iron with rolled foil to control the shape, or manually shaving down the bulge at the joint. I'm thinking a thin aluminum (or a metal less prone to sticking to semi-melted plastic) sleeve with an ID of ~1.75mm surrounded by a coil of kanthal or nichrome wire in the center could be used for this without a bulge or finagling with foil.
It'd need more than a little work to get the temperature just right and quickly radiate the heat after fusing (setting a pot to land on the right voltage for the wire, hitting it with a fan later, and timing the whole thing), but a properly fleshed-out design along those lines should let you just trim two lines to fit, line them up in the sleeve, hit a button, wait, and remove a joined line that's ready to roll.
Yeah, this is only useful on newer printers with runout sensors (not like my ancient Replicator Dual) and also you only need to print so many master spools, but I absolutely appreciate how the master spools reduce waste overall, both in terms of the amount of plastic used in their manufacture and also the fuel costs in shipping the stuff.
I've seen people suggest using a section of bowden tube to line up the ends of the filament for fusing. It would work well for PLA, but petg or abs might get too hot for the ptfe. Then there's the issue of having to unroll all of the filament to get the piece of tubing off.
Brilliant idea
Fantastic idea (Master Spool) - the whole design is perfect! I hate the hundred or so empty spools I have. For the next remix, please include magnets in the locking or closing mechanism on the handles.
Great Video with great ideas how to lower the waste of plastic.Thanks
Masterspool is a good idea but it does not fix the issue of having short leftover filament (there are only so many of those spools I need to print out anyways). Having a reliable filament-out sensor along with a good filament changing sequence (i.e. raising the nozzle and wait) is really the answer. An automatic switch-over for multi-filament feeds will work as well.
Thank you for this wonderful video!
Very cool project, and I like the recycling nature, super cool. As asked below, how do you join the filament ends, or do you just let the filament run out, pause and load the next section? Thanks!
Thanks for the idea! Going to make one now!
Great concept
I love the chaotic look of the prints. Rainbow chaos filament when?
Crap Joel! Cool looking spool. Neat, I'd do it. My wife wraps her knitting yard around the spools and they stack nice.
very useful! Thanks Joe.
Brilliant idea.
nice drawer, have you got the one with dividers done?
You can melt the ends a bit and use a bit of Teflon tube, melt the 2 ends with a candle and join together and run it through the Teflon tube to size it right, and some company's give you a spool you can unbolt and split into 2 half's for same reason
Awesome as usual sir!
You got me thinking about the storage drawer spools. Something like stacking several on a lazy Susan and the result is a spin-able parts bin arrangement. I wonder how many can stack on a single lazy Susan.
Joe Valasko designing it at the moment to have many on top of each other :)
What I would love to do with my end spools is to find a way of very cheaply and accurately splicing what I have to create another 1Kg roll from them. Maybe it'd be possible to splice them manually, then size them down with a heated 1.75mm die which would also function to compress the filament together and make it more solid... that would be pretty neat.
This is what the printing community needs. A filament joiner so you can splice smaller pieces together and have a nice continuous roll.
Just bye eSUN filament , they have reusable spool, and sell refill in all colors . The PLA+ is great quality and good price to.
Nice cool Spool.how heavy is it
I wish I had a large enough build plate to do this. Great idea.
Maybe the filament manufacturers could offer to ship with a master spool, or just the filament, so folks could take advantage without having to print their own spools.
Very cool idea
there is a way to join, connect 2 filaments of the same material also if of different color?
Hi how you doing I want to know I see that you have the prusa I3 MK3 what are your retraction settings on that
Very informative and enlightning
So how do feed the remnants in without binding or jamming? Or are simply scrapping what you dont use up when you change the filament?
I have the same printer, how are you swapping the filament out without screwing up the print?
Does the Palette+ notify you to reload when one of the four inputs runs out?
How did you get all your small filaments to feed into your printer. Mine is a single extruded that doesn’t pause when the filament has finisnhed. Any way to splice the filaments together and bond them so that you can spool a single roll of multi-part filament together ?
How did you print with multiple filaments into one continuous wire?
I have an anet a8 printer and the y axis is messing up after changing the y axis carrage. Y axis isn't moving enough now. The carrage is exactly the same mount holes and is made for an a8. The y servo is making a pulsing ringing sound now what would be a good servo to replace it with(all of them actually)
Cool concept!!!!
Use dremel and a piece of filamnt for friction weld your 3d prints
We print cards n coins til rolls gone. Good video, thanks for sharing. Have a great day. God bless
Okay really nice conecept... but how acutually did you change filament that often? Do you use a filament runout sensor and then just put in the next filament when the old one is empty? or is everything automated?
I love the idea I also like that Filaments.ca has this as well now to print some mastrer spools now :) Too bad there was not an easy way to join all the small scrapes of filament :)
Brilliant!
I like your idea !!
Hey joe could you maybe do a video on the different modes and how to use them on the palette +
Do you have any tips on printing from "scrap" like that? Having a break in my filament, or a pause in my print, aways damages the print.
nice video! - thx!
but i was more hoping for some hints on how to print something with several leftover spools. some issues i would like to see tackled:
how to detect empty filament on a marlin based printer without filament detection sensor?
how to refit (if even possible) a filament detection sensor?
how to change filament and continue print without layer shifts (i.e. not moving the print head during change and/or telling printer to re-home before continuing)
Man, you are so cool Still waiting for y Tornado to arrive Great ideas here. Thanks
What size of bed do you need to proint it?
Great ideas. Thanks.
Fiberlogy also produces filaments compatible with Masterspool.
Hi. What a great idea. Silly question. How did you join the odd ends together?
He said it in the video. He used the Prusa Mk3. The run-out sensor pauses the print and sounds an alarm when the spool is empty. You remove the empty spool, feed a new one and the print resumes. The joining happens in the extruder.
With the multiplication of printers having run-out sensors, these remaining bits can be used in projects where color uniformity is not needed.
This Master Spool project is still a great progress to reduce waste by having the option to buy raw filament. Another good idea would be to have the option to return batches of empty spools to the manufacturers for a refund or discount. And yet another would be a home recycling machine to melt failed prints back into filament.
If you are careful enough you can just feed new filament after the end. But it can be kinda fidely...
Of course you shuld idealy use the same material.
Thank you! I literally have six spools of filament that are nearly empty and couldn't decide what to do with them
I usually just melt the ends of old filament together and use it for anything that just needs to be strong
What?? how did you mix in all those pieces of filament? Did you hotswap them? Or do you have some sensor that pause the print? Did i miss something?
can you explain to me how using such spools makes fewer filament waste?
I use old filament spools to wrap extension cords onto :)
You can use the old spools to wrap wiring around if you scrap electronics like I do
good idea but are u going to print how many spools out of the remaining filament ???
Hmm, I hoped for a tutorial on how to actually print something big with that many small leftovers.
Of course if you have an i3 it will detect when the filament is empty, allow you to swap to the next and than continue without any problem, but what is a good way to do this manually? Or can you "weld" the leftovers together for something like this?
The easy way, but not time effective, is to just watch the printer and feed in the new filament when the last one ends. A good way of welding together the ends (maybe via a hot "mold") would be perfect.
Push Plastic has been offering masterspool filament for a bit as well.
Can you make a video about the process with the palette+ to use up all those filament leftovers? I would be very interested in that.
So then you have printed 6 or more master spools, what will you do with them.
What about finding them together and making one Masterspool with all the same colors together?