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I'm glad you revisited this topic, this selection of games is more indicative of what more core tactical shooters are in the genre. The exception I'd make is probably Tarkov, I know we all can't resist talking about it, but it's clearly more solidly in the extraction shooter genre of games which are their own thing. Including it in this list would mind as well make games like Hunt:Showdown or Marauders qualify as well.
Rising Storm 2 when I die 10 times in a row from random shot from the other side of the map - F tier Rising Storm 2 when I throw a WP grenade right into a group of VC - S tier
@@MutheiM_Marz that's the ambush ability. HCMT halves ticket loss and makes respawn timers faster. In other words, the north commander has the only good abilities.
@@queuedjar4578 but (PAVN) have shit barrage tho, I like US barrage more since it have airburst and quite accurate. NLF barrage a bit better with WP but kill friendly often, but who cares...
@@MutheiM_Marz Every competent north player knows to stay minimum 70 meters away from fire mission mark especially if cmd calls the precise grid ref ahead of time. And combining it with north's no risk recon ability (on south you can't shoot it down or even know when it's activated), it's easy to use it effectively. Or just choose the mark closest to enemy default spawns and it's always a good option. Its wide radius is always a good thing barring maps with really stupid mark zone restrictions (most territories maps unfortunately). All south fire support abilities besides napalm are not as useful. AC-47 you can reliably walk THROUGH unscathed half the time, and the abilities are small enough to walk around very easily. South arty is accurate which theoretically makes it ideal for direct fire on objectives, however most objectives happen to have indoor areas and that makes you God against fire support (barring unreal engine jank). And if south calls recon it makes it really obvious what the cmd is about to do (follow up very shortly with fire support) so you can shoot it down and spread out from where the most likely fire mission is about to occur (or just go leaf mode and hard counter recon easily), lessoning its effect. The only good south ability is napalm but you have to luck out with the angle and call it really unpredictably to not have it shot down by already active preemptive AA, so that mostly means not calling recon or sacrificing the spooky. Overall, players themselves will more often do more effective collective damage, and as long as they're alive are able to defend/capture objectives, they are getting the team closer to win state. So the abilities that make this easier such as HCMT and Ambush are going to be the best and most useful abilities since they keep players alive and use less tickets. There is almost no risk besides a grenade or flamethrower randomly appearing next to north cmd right after he hits the N key to ambush.
22:30 Most soldiers at this time did not wear hearing-protection. They were hearing and feeling the full concussive force of their firearms and environment, which would be amplified even further considering they’re mostly in enclosed spaces. This wasn’t because there wasn’t any hearing protection, it’s mostly because they didn’t really feel like it.
That last sentence is exactly correct. I don't feel like trying to figure out what my Squad leader is yelling at me in the middle of a gun fight. But also, you never knew when it would happen so you'd just have to wear them 24/7 so fuck that. I don't feel like doing all of that.
Tarkov absolutely deserves F tier. Single Player Tarkov with some of the popular mods that improve AI is a different game entirely, and it's very enjoyable. If you haven't tried it, you should
@@royalhistorian5109 No-one force you to buy unheard And not so many cheaters for a game that works on freaking unity in beta test You are just skill issue newbies
ahah, I keep hearing about how the military is a guaranteed ticket to hearing loss so I had to throw in sarcasm about the government actually caring XD
Rising Storm 2 Vietnam having an unexpected patch to fix the microphone audio is the best surprise of the year and I can't wait to get all over that game again!
26:30 the WW1 game series deserves attention for the dedication to historical context and creating gameplay mechanics around that. It has been a large part of me learning about the technology and struggles of the period and it cannot be understated how much the devs do care about the history. At the end of the day the classic argument of “ is any depiction of war glorification” exists but atleast this series attempts to express the struggles and teach its players about what they are essentially role playing. Gunplay wise Isonzo feels like a hot knife going through butter, the suppression is intense but all it takes is one bullet to get the job done
Being a squad leader in squad is like being a forever dungeon master. You took up the role because no one else would, and no one else wants to take it from you😂
RO2/RS has such a special place in my heart. Getting to play SL1 and managing to stay alive to spawn in so many people attacking Iwo Jima, it was a wonderful task (along with telling people to destroy D and E first, *then* get C). You're absolutely right; those of us who got to play those games in their prime, we can (and should) be proud and appreciative of what we got to experience. It's so good to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that, so thank you.
I genuinely miss RS2, I play from beta till 2020. Playing on the bloodbath servers back in the day was PEAK. I know its still around but the game just doesn't feel the same. I've tried every other shooter on this list and still nothing tops RS2 at it's peak.
The meta game is easily achieved with a degree of organization. The fun times are had when people are playing the game well but not _too_ well ... pretty sad when Post Scriptum lost its playerbase to this game when people saw better lighting and "fully modeled interiors" . Sound design is as important as graphics in a game like that, and HLL audio sounds like a game made in the early '00s. It also lacks physics. Helps the game run well, but it didn't always. The level/class rank system is ironically the thing that I suspect brings players back. People like to unlock stuff by playing. It's not the worst game , but its success kneecapped so many projects that had so much more potential to change the formula.
@@MrTakatschun Also the quickest way to get everyone to rage quit from either being easily lockdowned in alpha if the north commander tries even remotely, or getting shot from Alpha all the way up into reaching Golf because combat zones don't actually exist in territories mode.
PR is S tier, it still beats Squad in some ways (pacing, variety, quality of SLs, proper Insurgency mode). Also, Zero Hour PvP slaps, and at least deserves to be on the list.
don't disagree that PR is a fantastic game, had some amazing moments in it, but I still find myself hopping into squad more and it's partially to do with the server locations. Also I did have a draft script for zero hour done but I scrapped it because it was crap and I just didn't know what to write about it without sounding repetitive
SLORGS betray PR ! Never forget But yep .. SQUAD is S top tier experience in Tactical shooter half casual, half milsim but very bad optimisation and ICO feaures x)
I love how the ones with the best gun play and least amount of arcade features are B rank, and the most arcade ones are S rank. Pretty much the better the gunplay, the lower its rank.
Squad 44 having such a low player count is a travesty. It's a phenomenal game. But the canteen is definitely one of the dumbest mechanics I've ever seen in a game.
I agree that it isn't the best, but now having started to play Squad, I miss my canteen. Having to stop and rest constantly is annoying. At least with the cocaine water, I can keep moving for a somewhat extended period of time.
My first 800 hours of Arma 3 was just basically playing toy soldiers in the editor XD. Just pitting AI forces against each other. Then we made our own "milsim" unit and well now I have over 3000 hours
Nobody talks in Hell Let Loose because the developers can't fix the mic glitch. I haven't been able to talk in game for months now. It would be one of my fav games (since it has great gameplay) but not being able to communicate makes it unplayable
After 600 hours in squad I tried project reality, the community sucks. The game is toxic and there is no space for newcomers. The gameplay was clearly outdated by pretty fun as I also grew up with battlefield 2 when I was a kid. Squad goes hard and is much better in every way. When you hop onto project reality it feels like you are playing with people stuck in 2012. My experience was complete shit. So i just continued playing squad and after 1200 hours it is still my absolute go to game, incredibly fun, engaging and a good thriving community. The only thing I think I miss from project reality is the shear amount of faction variaty. But even then squad has plently of factions to have fun for a long time and is always adding more. But its te community that keeps me there.
when it comes to beyond the wire, i feel the exact same way. I hold really fond memories of the game despite its numerous flaws. It is a big shame that it died out :(
@@TUROCK320 at first is was really bad, but imo, when you now want to be still as good as back in the days, you just have to think even more about it (movement & stamina coordination etc), thats why I like the ICO. but I also have many older friends where this was the final nail in the coffin :/
@@johannes26_02 oh no, it IS okey, i like the game in general. I still an expert on the game and masterise the parties well, and continu to adapt myself Update after update since 2016 ! Adaptation Still the Key since 2016. But each year player base grow UP and teaching to the New comer was difficult for all veteran. The skill gap change a lot, players too (New generation gamer), and the game a lot (game design rules^^). It is Normal to move on or adapthemself; i saw many many many friends move on too and meat a lot new players. Having too many exprience is difficult in this game who change many time. One of the tips for veteran is to take a break before be to bored or disgusted 🙂. The break is usefull for everyone of course, it is fundamental in SQUAD. Fly safe and have fun TUROCK - elite pilot 07
The frustrating thing is that the devs didn't even deserve to get canned. RS2, Rising Storm/RO2 were all successes, obviously not pushing COD numbers, but still. And then anti-matter gets canned because of budget cuts. Intensely frustrating, especially since there was and will be nothing else like it.
Ayy nice to see another video from you Tantwo! :) Also could you perhaps make another Military Conflict Vietnam video ? They made some updates adding stuff like the ANZAC forces (well as player models and cosmetics, plus fitting voice lines) and their appropiate weapons (L1A1 SLR, L2A2, Browning Hi-Power, Sterling, Owen gun, F1 SMG, etc.)
As a tarkov fan the game on the bottom is really fitting, its one of the best tactical games ever made but it isnt fun at all and official release is the end of 2025 this december/January we will have last patch/wipe before release.
Good video as always mate. Shame about 'Beyond The Wire', played it a bit and it seemed to be a good game (with a few flaws). Wish it got more recognition. Very interest in '84', would love to hear an update about it.
thanks man, I thought there would be more players when they introduced the bots but at least it's there if you feel nostalgic and won't to actually shoot at something
Tarkov in F tier is 100% subscribe worthy ! As a 3.5k player I absolutely think its shit. Filled with cheaters, filled with rats which unironically is one of the funniest ways to play.. buggy as hell, grindy as hell... when you get good and play the game like CoD you will be the best at pvp which defeats the entire purpose of a tactical game. SPtarkov on the other hand ? With AI mods ? PEAK
yeah it mostly comes down to me hating extraction shooters except Gray Zone Warfare, I enjoyed SPTarkov cause it was much more relaxed without any sweats
@@Tantwo so you basically don't like it because you got gear fear lol, but that on the other hand is a big reason for people liking it, cause you can actually LOOSE sth.
SWAT 3 with Last Resort compatibility mod (makes the game run flawlessly on modern PCs basically) is still my favorite SWAT game today. RoN also has SWAT like lore-related AI difficulty system but I agree, suspects are generally way more aggressive in RoN as if they are all super soldiers trained to take you down. RoN's AI is way more advanced in that suspects try to flank you and stuff (which is very cool) yeah but damn, a street thug literally bunny hopping around and landing every shot with a pistol while actively flanking you is insane
Ocea violation lmao. We wear ear protection in training but it’s a liability in a war zone. Gotta be able to hear stuff. Just gotta accept the hearing loss unfortunately. Btw the weapons give a tinnitus effect and do sound kind of muffled to exposed ears. 6 days actually has some pretty realistic sounding weapons. The only game that comes just as close is ready or not and squad to an extent.
Arma 3 should be in the F tier just for how garbage their mod system is for servers and the way BIKEYS work. and the fact you need 160gb of mods to make it playable.
I loved Beyond the Wire. I love WW1 and Squad/Squad 44 so I was super excited for it. I played the shit out of it when it was active and I also have nostalgia for it now.
Not sure if this is the first video of yours or not but i enjoyed it. Happy to see EFT is on the bottom. I clicked to see if Arena Breakout Infinite (better EFT that's free) would be on this list or not so maybe you haven't tried it yet. Well if you haven't S1 comes out on Nov 20th and I recommend trying it then with the new weapons and maps and possibly making a video on your thoughts, maybe even comparing it to EFT in the video. Have a good one!
Ready or not is a story with a game attached to it. The games trying to get you to think about mental health the very real issues in society and how the goverment can so terribly respond to it
I spent hundreds of hours playing HLL when it wasn’t fully released and man the communication was amazing, i had so many matches play off with real strategy because every SL commanded its squads according to the plans laid out in command chat.. It went to shit when team17 bought it and fucked shit up (let’s not forget the fucking cosmetics) anyway man great video
Played Beyond the Wire through all the different stages. the devs wrangled the game 3 times, catering more and more to casuals. leaving the more milsim fans behind. what really pissed me off was that beyond a 100 meters your Gewher 98 was no longer a one shot kill in the chest area. if it was a more advanced hit box system like rising storm 2 i could see that happen rarely in real life. bascily the devs ruined and dragged beyond the wire to it's death, the core game idea was better than the other ww1 games. the bots was the final nail in the coffin
I actually enjoyed EfT, granted, I did approach it with the attitude of "if I die oh well, get a new kit and go again." It also helps that I have a good group of friends that enjoy playing the game together. The gunplay was fun and the fights were that good kind of stressful. I miss the weapon customization as well. We were all really excited when BSG rolled out the armor plates and modeled the actual armor hitboxes instead of the vests just giving full coverage all over. Sad what happened with it, but that's the way it goes. Hope I find something to scratch that itch soon.
I'll never understand how people are mad at Squad adding monetization via skins to further fund development. It's such a minor thing to add that makes ensures free patches and content drops
Which of these tactical shooters yall recommend for steam deck? Very few work because of silly anti-cheat and Insurgency just broke with the most recent update and it hasn't been fixed in weeks by now. Any idea if there is a way to get RS2 working on steam deck?
The thing that buggers me in SQUAD the most is the way the soldier handles their weapons. Its like they are on a range just chilling with the boys...NOT IN A FUCKIN WAR. C'moon, Steve. Speed it up
That has to be one of the biggest ones. I havent played the game in ages for that very reason. You are a semi pro but still handle them like a first timer on a range. Im not asking CoD speed but realistic professionalism. When the shit hits the fan the speed goes double time
@@danielkantor5693 "developed" is a strong word. Antimatter no longer exists as an entity. All that's left is a couple guys from antimatter, they have no formal publisher or even a developer studio.
You can get AI mods for Ready or Not that make the likes of casual criminals surrender more but retain the aggressiveness for the ex military bodyguards//school shooters/terrorists etc
6 days in fallujah doesnt glamorize the war. I implore you to do some research as to why it’s in development and on those involved. All things aside I loved your video!- USMC veteran
About HLL - comunication problem is 100% EU thing. Since I switched to US servers with my friends - yeah, the shooting skill lacks but daaaaaamn americans LOVE to talk and roleplay. They will almost ALWAYS play along any bullshit you say, they will role play top notch (especially medics). You will always have a garry to spawn unlike EU. This is something I also noticed in Squad as well to be honest - yeah, europeans will make those crackshots across half the map but once you knock him out - he will give up 99% of the time and respawn at that one single FOB another half of the map away. I would move Squad and HLL to A to be honest - Squad is not THAT good and HLL is not THAT bad. Squad 44 should go to B simply cuz 5-6 servers at prime time is NOT "uwu, game not dead, bro, trust me bro". About Tarkov - as somebody with 1.5K hours in it - it's S tier for the first 50-100, then it falls all the way to F - Nikita allows cheating, no optimization, Nikita also donates money to ru army to kill ukranians, close friends with terrorist group Team715 etc. The more you dig into Tarkov - the more it looks like a heavily modded Stalker without Zone and with asshole dev team
I used to LOVE Hell Let Loose.. until they sold out and ruined the game. Also I grew up on the original Operation Flashpoint with my dad. God, I miss that game. When I was in middle school I used to play in a clan called Symphony of Destruction. SoD, super fun times. My guy born in 2001, which was around the time I was playing Operation Flashpoint on my dad's PC.. At least kid is lucky he gets to play video games for another 10-20 years longer than I will.
I had more intense situations in SPT with mods than in official and the game overall felt more interesting. Also there was a sense of relief knowing some cheater is not watching you all the time.
Arma being in S tier swat and RoN in A tier, tarkov getting fat bottom tier, i suddenly like you more :P More seriously though, when was the last time you played ron? I played it months ago and then again played campaign recently and it feels like a different game, feels more like SWAT 4 than it did before
2:55 personally i like it better when there are no tickets because the death alone in Hll is frustrating enough, to also lose a ticket would probably just make the game worse(and more toxic) and would ruin the immersion in my opinion .The idea behind Hll is to be a bit more on the arcade side while still beeing immersive(which does it very good ) and casual.
Rising storm two is one of the best games I’ve ever played. I actually jumped on last night first time in a long time. I heard they fixed the voip and had heard some people chatting.
19:15 oh no! watching you struggle with the bleed mechanic brings me back to when i first started playing. always bring a heavy bleed a light bleed and a health item. esmarch,aceptic bandage, a12 (cheese) kit
I've been saying it for years, RS2 is the perfect balance between arcade and realism! It's just perfect. The game is 95% off right now and the player count is healthy again! I'm gonna re-download it. Thanks for reminding me about it P.S. I NEED THAT '83 VIDEO NOW
Was hopeful for 83, but think we will never see it. The RO/RS series was something dear to me - going back to Ostfront, but with a tiny bit of Combined Arms before that. Sold the community that helped them grow out IMO. PS was OK in early release, but very rough and unfinished. Left, came back, and then dealing a really toxic community there. With maps that were still rough and unfinished. So haven't really been back. Might have a look again sometime. HLL was OK as well in early release - but rough and unfinished, so walked away. Came back, and it is what I play most now. Haven't done Squad - though am intrigued because Nanisivik is a map - had an uncle that worked there when it was still a mining community.
Definitely not Rising Storm 2's campaign mode, it's probably the worst way to play rising storm 2. Not very well thought out, poorly implemented, the playerbase cannot handle losing or gaming the campaign mode's mechanics themselves and end up rage quitting or just team stacking. It was a formality to port over from RO2/RS1 but they didn't think about how it would effect the game's asymmetry and map design balance. If there was a surpemacy only campaign mode it would honestly probably work a lot better, but not with TE maps only. Map rotation or map voting is a much better way to play rising storm 2.
Im veteran HLL player and i agree with all that you said but somehow this game is more addicting to me than for example squad 44 and i still have hope that team17 continue to learn how to make new meaningful content...
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also when talking about insurgency I use the word predecessor wrong ignore that, English is hard
I'm glad you revisited this topic, this selection of games is more indicative of what more core tactical shooters are in the genre. The exception I'd make is probably Tarkov, I know we all can't resist talking about it, but it's clearly more solidly in the extraction shooter genre of games which are their own thing. Including it in this list would mind as well make games like Hunt:Showdown or Marauders qualify as well.
WHERE ARE THE RS2V SERVERS, Australian servers seem kinda dead
Rising Storm 2 when I die 10 times in a row from random shot from the other side of the map - F tier
Rising Storm 2 when I throw a WP grenade right into a group of VC - S tier
Rising Storm 2 when a supremacy or skirmish server gets populated - SSS tier
Rising Storm 2 When I activated Ho Chi Minh trail and spawn 20 VC on the embassy top floor the last minute - S tier
@@MutheiM_Marz that's the ambush ability. HCMT halves ticket loss and makes respawn timers faster. In other words, the north commander has the only good abilities.
@@queuedjar4578 but (PAVN) have shit barrage tho, I like US barrage more since it have airburst and quite accurate. NLF barrage a bit better with WP but kill friendly often, but who cares...
@@MutheiM_Marz Every competent north player knows to stay minimum 70 meters away from fire mission mark especially if cmd calls the precise grid ref ahead of time. And combining it with north's no risk recon ability (on south you can't shoot it down or even know when it's activated), it's easy to use it effectively. Or just choose the mark closest to enemy default spawns and it's always a good option. Its wide radius is always a good thing barring maps with really stupid mark zone restrictions (most territories maps unfortunately).
All south fire support abilities besides napalm are not as useful. AC-47 you can reliably walk THROUGH unscathed half the time, and the abilities are small enough to walk around very easily. South arty is accurate which theoretically makes it ideal for direct fire on objectives, however most objectives happen to have indoor areas and that makes you God against fire support (barring unreal engine jank). And if south calls recon it makes it really obvious what the cmd is about to do (follow up very shortly with fire support) so you can shoot it down and spread out from where the most likely fire mission is about to occur (or just go leaf mode and hard counter recon easily), lessoning its effect. The only good south ability is napalm but you have to luck out with the angle and call it really unpredictably to not have it shot down by already active preemptive AA, so that mostly means not calling recon or sacrificing the spooky.
Overall, players themselves will more often do more effective collective damage, and as long as they're alive are able to defend/capture objectives, they are getting the team closer to win state. So the abilities that make this easier such as HCMT and Ambush are going to be the best and most useful abilities since they keep players alive and use less tickets. There is almost no risk besides a grenade or flamethrower randomly appearing next to north cmd right after he hits the N key to ambush.
22:30 Most soldiers at this time did not wear hearing-protection. They were hearing and feeling the full concussive force of their firearms and environment, which would be amplified even further considering they’re mostly in enclosed spaces. This wasn’t because there wasn’t any hearing protection, it’s mostly because they didn’t really feel like it.
damn, didn't know that, i was making the joke cause I always see memes about injuries not being service related
Yeahhhhh, most of my drill Sergents were in the Afghanistan war, and they didn't wear ear pro when we did our STX lanes
That last sentence is exactly correct. I don't feel like trying to figure out what my Squad leader is yelling at me in the middle of a gun fight. But also, you never knew when it would happen so you'd just have to wear them 24/7 so fuck that. I don't feel like doing all of that.
Tarkov absolutely deserves F tier. Single Player Tarkov with some of the popular mods that improve AI is a different game entirely, and it's very enjoyable. If you haven't tried it, you should
I mean at this point isn't it better to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R anomaly for FREE?
@@druid_bielanski they're not even remotely the same game
@@druid_bielanski Stalker is a lot better but it also isn't free unless you mean sailing the high seas.
@@queuedjar4578 anomaly mod actually is. Check it out
@@frostsoul4199 if you have enough mods trust me, it is especially in only PvE mode
Tarkov at the bottom is very fitting also, LET'S GOOOOO
Why?
@@XCCRisopen game is unplayable with the cheaters
@@XCCRisopen You haven't heard the entire drama about the unheard stuff and the cheating problem?
@@magicbeanman772 Why you replaced skill issue and cheaters?
@@royalhistorian5109 No-one force you to buy unheard
And not so many cheaters for a game that works on freaking unity in beta test
You are just skill issue newbies
Tan thinking the government gave a fuck about our hearing protection in early global war on terrorism is adorable 😹
ahah, I keep hearing about how the military is a guaranteed ticket to hearing loss so I had to throw in sarcasm about the government actually caring XD
@@Tantwo Guaranteed ticket? My brother, the VA will do EVERYTHING to deny that your injuries/health issues are service-connected 😹
You actually wrote down your injuries went to the doc and shit or kicked cans down the road @@happyhaunter_5546
@@happyhaunter_5546WHAT!?
you never knew?
Rising Storm 2 Vietnam having an unexpected patch to fix the microphone audio is the best surprise of the year and I can't wait to get all over that game again!
26:30 the WW1 game series deserves attention for the dedication to historical context and creating gameplay mechanics around that. It has been a large part of me learning about the technology and struggles of the period and it cannot be understated how much the devs do care about the history. At the end of the day the classic argument of “ is any depiction of war glorification” exists but atleast this series attempts to express the struggles and teach its players about what they are essentially role playing.
Gunplay wise Isonzo feels like a hot knife going through butter, the suppression is intense but all it takes is one bullet to get the job done
US Soldiers/Marines do use noise canceling headphones now, however back in 2004 not so much. Earplugs if they were lucky
gonna be absolutely honest if I ever got deployed to some foreign country i'd be complaining to HR constantly based on the stories i've heard lmao
@@Tantwo yeah HR doesn’t really exist in the military, especially deployed lol.
@@Tantwo HR 🤣
Can confirm, I'm just in a regular airborne unit and most of us have some sort of electronic earpro attached to our helmet
Being a squad leader in squad is like being a forever dungeon master. You took up the role because no one else would, and no one else wants to take it from you😂
RS2: Vietnam is $1 on Steam right now and so many new players are getting into it for the first time! Let’s bring this masterpiece of a game back!
RO2/RS has such a special place in my heart. Getting to play SL1 and managing to stay alive to spawn in so many people attacking Iwo Jima, it was a wonderful task (along with telling people to destroy D and E first, *then* get C).
You're absolutely right; those of us who got to play those games in their prime, we can (and should) be proud and appreciative of what we got to experience. It's so good to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks that, so thank you.
I genuinely miss RS2, I play from beta till 2020. Playing on the bloodbath servers back in the day was PEAK. I know its still around but the game just doesn't feel the same. I've tried every other shooter on this list and still nothing tops RS2 at it's peak.
Now we have 150-400 players max..
Lucky we played in the good old times with modding. Winter war and green army mods.
Gotta hop back on
@angronthebloody Get back on it asap, was just patched and were back up to 3k players
I think HLL is really reliant on finding good servers and a good group
The meta game is easily achieved with a degree of organization. The fun times are had when people are playing the game well but not _too_ well ... pretty sad when Post Scriptum lost its playerbase to this game when people saw better lighting and "fully modeled interiors" . Sound design is as important as graphics in a game like that, and HLL audio sounds like a game made in the early '00s. It also lacks physics. Helps the game run well, but it didn't always. The level/class rank system is ironically the thing that I suspect brings players back. People like to unlock stuff by playing. It's not the worst game , but its success kneecapped so many projects that had so much more potential to change the formula.
same with ARMA
I really liked Beyond the Wire, really miss it, it was so fun clearing trenches
PR has the most fun community
can't forget the dude who was yelling at us to run in one of my old videos, was funny asf
ALWAYS VOTE CU CHI FIRST MAP
IT HELP ATTRACKT NEW PLAYERS AND FILL UP THE SERVER
Bogged down by no mic new players recently.
@@MrTakatschun Also the quickest way to get everyone to rage quit from either being easily lockdowned in alpha if the north commander tries even remotely, or getting shot from Alpha all the way up into reaching Golf because combat zones don't actually exist in territories mode.
until you play on HOG
Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm, Rising Storm 2 ♥️
hell yeah
more like darkest hour
@@elcin4281 Yeah, original RO and the Darkest Hour mod for it are the peak of Red Orchestra.
PR is S tier, it still beats Squad in some ways (pacing, variety, quality of SLs, proper Insurgency mode). Also, Zero Hour PvP slaps, and at least deserves to be on the list.
don't disagree that PR is a fantastic game, had some amazing moments in it, but I still find myself hopping into squad more and it's partially to do with the server locations. Also I did have a draft script for zero hour done but I scrapped it because it was crap and I just didn't know what to write about it without sounding repetitive
SLORGS betray PR !
Never forget
But yep .. SQUAD is S top tier experience in Tactical shooter half casual, half milsim but very bad optimisation and ICO feaures x)
I love how the ones with the best gun play and least amount of arcade features are B rank, and the most arcade ones are S rank.
Pretty much the better the gunplay, the lower its rank.
Squad 44 having such a low player count is a travesty. It's a phenomenal game. But the canteen is definitely one of the dumbest mechanics I've ever seen in a game.
I agree that it isn't the best, but now having started to play Squad, I miss my canteen. Having to stop and rest constantly is annoying. At least with the cocaine water, I can keep moving for a somewhat extended period of time.
My first 800 hours of Arma 3 was just basically playing toy soldiers in the editor XD. Just pitting AI forces against each other.
Then we made our own "milsim" unit and well now I have over 3000 hours
Nobody talks in Hell Let Loose because the developers can't fix the mic glitch. I haven't been able to talk in game for months now. It would be one of my fav games (since it has great gameplay) but not being able to communicate makes it unplayable
Star wars fan here, the good guys are the empire...
After 600 hours in squad I tried project reality, the community sucks. The game is toxic and there is no space for newcomers. The gameplay was clearly outdated by pretty fun as I also grew up with battlefield 2 when I was a kid.
Squad goes hard and is much better in every way. When you hop onto project reality it feels like you are playing with people stuck in 2012. My experience was complete shit. So i just continued playing squad and after 1200 hours it is still my absolute go to game, incredibly fun, engaging and a good thriving community.
The only thing I think I miss from project reality is the shear amount of faction variaty. But even then squad has plently of factions to have fun for a long time and is always adding more. But its te community that keeps me there.
100 hours in Arma are not much, I am at 5000 hours and there are many with over 10000 hours…
when it comes to beyond the wire, i feel the exact same way. I hold really fond memories of the game despite its numerous flaws. It is a big shame that it died out :(
Beyond the wire has saturday 1:30pm est events. I only got to play once though, but it was pretty fun.
would be awesome but that's 3:30am for me :(
@@Tantwo Yeah I gave up on trying to make it to the event and reinstalled isonzo instead
only problem with squad is that it isn’t optimised
and ICO....
ICO hate thread
@@TUROCK320 get over it bruh, its not that bad anymore
@@johannes26_02 ahah yes, just nostalgia.
I doesnt play much now btw :/
8 000 hours on this game, im retire 07
@@TUROCK320 at first is was really bad, but imo, when you now want to be still as good as back in the days, you just have to think even more about it (movement & stamina coordination etc), thats why I like the ICO. but I also have many older friends where this was the final nail in the coffin :/
@@johannes26_02 oh no, it IS okey, i like the game in general.
I still an expert on the game and masterise the parties well, and continu to adapt myself Update after update since 2016 !
Adaptation Still the Key since 2016. But each year player base grow UP and teaching to the New comer was difficult for all veteran. The skill gap change a lot, players too (New generation gamer), and the game a lot (game design rules^^).
It is Normal to move on or adapthemself; i saw many many many friends move on too and meat a lot new players.
Having too many exprience is difficult in this game who change many time.
One of the tips for veteran is to take a break before be to bored or disgusted 🙂. The break is usefull for everyone of course, it is fundamental in SQUAD.
Fly safe and have fun
TUROCK - elite pilot 07
From the Insurgency series we also got the spinoff Day Of Infamy which was/is my favourite multiplayer game ever, tons of fun!
RS2 is the Grandpa that didn't do a 401k and depends on social security. So much potential for a casual hardcore shooter and they blew it.
The frustrating thing is that the devs didn't even deserve to get canned. RS2, Rising Storm/RO2 were all successes, obviously not pushing COD numbers, but still. And then anti-matter gets canned because of budget cuts. Intensely frustrating, especially since there was and will be nothing else like it.
Yeah, RO2/RS and RS2 are by far the most fun I've had in multiplayer military shooters. A shame really.
@@noize8148 maybe we will get 83' some day :D
i wish they made rs2 vietnam free on steam for a while
@@el_gabronit’s $1 right now which is reviving player count
Babe wake up, new tantwo video
I have returned from long service leave
The fact you put Ground Branch in D of all places is insane to me
Ayy nice to see another video from you Tantwo! :)
Also could you perhaps make another Military Conflict Vietnam video ? They made some updates adding stuff like the ANZAC forces (well as player models and cosmetics, plus fitting voice lines) and their appropiate weapons (L1A1 SLR, L2A2, Browning Hi-Power, Sterling, Owen gun, F1 SMG, etc.)
thanks man feels good to be back, and I'll be sure to check it out and see if I can cook something up for it. Glad to see it's still in development
As a tarkov fan the game on the bottom is really fitting, its one of the best tactical games ever made but it isnt fun at all and official release is the end of 2025 this december/January we will have last patch/wipe before release.
So what happens after the "last wipe"?
@@temba92Release and classic every 5 month patch/wipe
Good video as always mate. Shame about 'Beyond The Wire', played it a bit and it seemed to be a good game (with a few flaws). Wish it got more recognition.
Very interest in '84', would love to hear an update about it.
thanks man, I thought there would be more players when they introduced the bots but at least it's there if you feel nostalgic and won't to actually shoot at something
Tarkov in F tier is 100% subscribe worthy ! As a 3.5k player I absolutely think its shit. Filled with cheaters, filled with rats which unironically is one of the funniest ways to play.. buggy as hell, grindy as hell... when you get good and play the game like CoD you will be the best at pvp which defeats the entire purpose of a tactical game. SPtarkov on the other hand ? With AI mods ? PEAK
yeah it mostly comes down to me hating extraction shooters except Gray Zone Warfare, I enjoyed SPTarkov cause it was much more relaxed without any sweats
@@Tantwo based af brother ! Cheers from Romania
@@Tantwo so you basically don't like it because you got gear fear lol, but that on the other hand is a big reason for people liking it, cause you can actually LOOSE sth.
SWAT 3 with Last Resort compatibility mod (makes the game run flawlessly on modern PCs basically) is still my favorite SWAT game today. RoN also has SWAT like lore-related AI difficulty system but I agree, suspects are generally way more aggressive in RoN as if they are all super soldiers trained to take you down. RoN's AI is way more advanced in that suspects try to flank you and stuff (which is very cool) yeah but damn, a street thug literally bunny hopping around and landing every shot with a pistol while actively flanking you is insane
Ocea violation lmao. We wear ear protection in training but it’s a liability in a war zone. Gotta be able to hear stuff. Just gotta accept the hearing loss unfortunately. Btw the weapons give a tinnitus effect and do sound kind of muffled to exposed ears. 6 days actually has some pretty realistic sounding weapons. The only game that comes just as close is ready or not and squad to an extent.
Arma 3 should be in the F tier just for how garbage their mod system is for servers and the way BIKEYS work. and the fact you need 160gb of mods to make it playable.
I loved Beyond the Wire. I love WW1 and Squad/Squad 44 so I was super excited for it. I played the shit out of it when it was active and I also have nostalgia for it now.
3:25 , the il-2 music tugged at my heart
For those of you who were true GAYMERS, I will remind you of Day of Infamy which was basically Insurgency but set in WW2. It was absolutely awesome
Not sure if this is the first video of yours or not but i enjoyed it. Happy to see EFT is on the bottom. I clicked to see if Arena Breakout Infinite (better EFT that's free) would be on this list or not so maybe you haven't tried it yet. Well if you haven't S1 comes out on Nov 20th and I recommend trying it then with the new weapons and maps and possibly making a video on your thoughts, maybe even comparing it to EFT in the video. Have a good one!
Ready or not is a story with a game attached to it. The games trying to get you to think about mental health the very real issues in society and how the goverment can so terribly respond to it
I’ve never known Aussies also took part in the Vietnam war until I played Rising storm 2 Vietnam,so this has educational purposes for me!
I spent hundreds of hours playing HLL when it wasn’t fully released and man the communication was amazing, i had so many matches play off with real strategy because every SL commanded its squads according to the plans laid out in command chat.. It went to shit when team17 bought it and fucked shit up (let’s not forget the fucking cosmetics) anyway man great video
Im 100% sure i met you 1000 times in RS2 servers so its nice to find out you got a yt channel
Played Beyond the Wire through all the different stages. the devs wrangled the game 3 times, catering more and more to casuals. leaving the more milsim fans behind. what really pissed me off was that beyond a 100 meters your Gewher 98 was no longer a one shot kill in the chest area. if it was a more advanced hit box system like rising storm 2 i could see that happen rarely in real life.
bascily the devs ruined and dragged beyond the wire to it's death, the core game idea was better than the other ww1 games. the bots was the final nail in the coffin
love the high quality high effort sort of vid
I liked Beyond the Wire more than any of the other games on this list, but it died the quickest. Unfortunate I guess.
I actually enjoyed EfT, granted, I did approach it with the attitude of "if I die oh well, get a new kit and go again." It also helps that I have a good group of friends that enjoy playing the game together. The gunplay was fun and the fights were that good kind of stressful. I miss the weapon customization as well. We were all really excited when BSG rolled out the armor plates and modeled the actual armor hitboxes instead of the vests just giving full coverage all over. Sad what happened with it, but that's the way it goes. Hope I find something to scratch that itch soon.
I'll never understand how people are mad at Squad adding monetization via skins to further fund development. It's such a minor thing to add that makes ensures free patches and content drops
Which of these tactical shooters yall recommend for steam deck? Very few work because of silly anti-cheat and Insurgency just broke with the most recent update and it hasn't been fixed in weeks by now.
Any idea if there is a way to get RS2 working on steam deck?
The thing that buggers me in SQUAD the most is the way the soldier handles their weapons. Its like they are on a range just chilling with the boys...NOT IN A FUCKIN WAR. C'moon, Steve. Speed it up
oh yeah the rocket equip animation drives me nuts, I'm a twig irl but I reckon I could do it faster with some practice
That has to be one of the biggest ones. I havent played the game in ages for that very reason. You are a semi pro but still handle them like a first timer on a range. Im not asking CoD speed but realistic professionalism. When the shit hits the fan the speed goes double time
Liké insurgencie ?@@ReprobiCrucesignati
@@Tantwo a child could do it faster not gonna lie
Squad being S tear is accurate. I’ve struggled to find another game that has topped squad. For me it’s up there with prime battlefield for me.
Objectively, many of these games are VERY terrible from a technical standpoint. but I have to admit, they’re sorta fun for the most part.
Ive spent nearly 3K hours on arma 3 almost all of it playing as an ODST from halo 10/10 would recommend
Great video as always big pimpin! Hope life is treating you well :D
thanks man and hopefully it's treating you good as well XD
Looking forward to seeing that '83 video!
Its still being developed right?
@@danielkantor5693 "developed" is a strong word. Antimatter no longer exists as an entity. All that's left is a couple guys from antimatter, they have no formal publisher or even a developer studio.
You can get AI mods for Ready or Not that make the likes of casual criminals surrender more but retain the aggressiveness for the ex military bodyguards//school shooters/terrorists etc
I enjoyed beyond the wire too but the devs released it too early and everyone got bored by np content release
6 days in fallujah doesnt glamorize the war. I implore you to do some research as to why it’s in development and on those involved. All things aside I loved your video!- USMC veteran
The fact that Heroes and Generals wasn’t mentioned is a crime
About HLL - comunication problem is 100% EU thing. Since I switched to US servers with my friends - yeah, the shooting skill lacks but daaaaaamn americans LOVE to talk and roleplay. They will almost ALWAYS play along any bullshit you say, they will role play top notch (especially medics). You will always have a garry to spawn unlike EU. This is something I also noticed in Squad as well to be honest - yeah, europeans will make those crackshots across half the map but once you knock him out - he will give up 99% of the time and respawn at that one single FOB another half of the map away. I would move Squad and HLL to A to be honest - Squad is not THAT good and HLL is not THAT bad. Squad 44 should go to B simply cuz 5-6 servers at prime time is NOT "uwu, game not dead, bro, trust me bro". About Tarkov - as somebody with 1.5K hours in it - it's S tier for the first 50-100, then it falls all the way to F - Nikita allows cheating, no optimization, Nikita also donates money to ru army to kill ukranians, close friends with terrorist group Team715 etc. The more you dig into Tarkov - the more it looks like a heavily modded Stalker without Zone and with asshole dev team
I really love the RS2V soundtrack my favorites are morphine drip and all the alternate versions its just so good
I used to LOVE Hell Let Loose.. until they sold out and ruined the game.
Also I grew up on the original Operation Flashpoint with my dad. God, I miss that game. When I was in middle school I used to play in a clan called Symphony of Destruction. SoD, super fun times.
My guy born in 2001, which was around the time I was playing Operation Flashpoint on my dad's PC.. At least kid is lucky he gets to play video games for another 10-20 years longer than I will.
I used to play Beyond the Wire extensively, sad to see that the player base is practically dead
Single player Tarkov is pretty fun, removes all the hackers and can actually play the game.
I had more intense situations in SPT with mods than in official and the game overall felt more interesting. Also there was a sense of relief knowing some cheater is not watching you all the time.
I was born in 2008, but SWAT3 was my Childhood and I still love this game after all this Years!
PPSh-41 is GOD in every game
hand held minigun
I would do unspeakable things to an eastern European village If Squad ever miraclously decided to add Grozny as a map
I'd do anything for a Grozny map or even a bosnia war mod
I thought this said FUNNIEST, and disagreed thinking that Tarkov is pretty funny. But I'd also agree that Reforger is funnier.
unfortunately "funnest" isn't a word but I just went with it anyways lmao
You arer back BRO - Thanks God :)
felt weird not uploading once ever week or two tbh I always feared people would forget about me lmao
"Reaction streamers suck" MEGA BASED
Your Squad wishes may be granted. They announced they're moving over to UE5
Red Orchestra Darkest Hour mod has been my go to for years now
Arma being in S tier swat and RoN in A tier, tarkov getting fat bottom tier, i suddenly like you more :P
More seriously though, when was the last time you played ron? I played it months ago and then again played campaign recently and it feels like a different game, feels more like SWAT 4 than it did before
glad I could make an impression XD, the last time I played it properly was when the DLC got released, glad the AI has been toned down
2:55 personally i like it better when there are no tickets because the death alone in Hll is frustrating enough, to also lose a ticket would probably just make the game worse(and more toxic) and would ruin the immersion in my opinion
.The idea behind Hll is to be a bit more on the arcade side while still beeing immersive(which does it very good ) and casual.
Rising storm two is one of the best games I’ve ever played. I actually jumped on last night first time in a long time. I heard they fixed the voip and had heard some people chatting.
18:08 poor timmy just wanted to get his first task done
19:15 oh no! watching you struggle with the bleed mechanic brings me back to when i first started playing. always bring a heavy bleed a light bleed and a health item. esmarch,aceptic bandage, a12 (cheese) kit
The stealing sniper role bit is so funny
The arma 3 campaign is peak and I'll die on this hill
should’ve included tarkov arena imo, offers the fun gunplay aspect of tarkov without the pain and suffering of tarkov
19:27 dont even remember answering that and didnt know ive ever watched u before. But hello its me!
I've been saying it for years, RS2 is the perfect balance between arcade and realism! It's just perfect. The game is 95% off right now and the player count is healthy again! I'm gonna re-download it. Thanks for reminding me about it
P.S. I NEED THAT '83 VIDEO NOW
Rs2 will forever have a special place in my heart ❤
Tarkov needs to be pirated. I really don't want to install the BSG launcher again.
If Squad is S Tier Arma must be triple S Tier!
Bonus to Hell Let Loose for being available on consoles as well
Was hopeful for 83, but think we will never see it. The RO/RS series was something dear to me - going back to Ostfront, but with a tiny bit of Combined Arms before that. Sold the community that helped them grow out IMO.
PS was OK in early release, but very rough and unfinished. Left, came back, and then dealing a really toxic community there. With maps that were still rough and unfinished. So haven't really been back. Might have a look again sometime.
HLL was OK as well in early release - but rough and unfinished, so walked away. Came back, and it is what I play most now.
Haven't done Squad - though am intrigued because Nanisivik is a map - had an uncle that worked there when it was still a mining community.
Welcome back GI Tantwo
feels good to be back
I need more games exactly like RS2 Campaign mode.
Definitely not Rising Storm 2's campaign mode, it's probably the worst way to play rising storm 2. Not very well thought out, poorly implemented, the playerbase cannot handle losing or gaming the campaign mode's mechanics themselves and end up rage quitting or just team stacking. It was a formality to port over from RO2/RS1 but they didn't think about how it would effect the game's asymmetry and map design balance. If there was a surpemacy only campaign mode it would honestly probably work a lot better, but not with TE maps only. Map rotation or map voting is a much better way to play rising storm 2.
@@queuedjar4578 Supremacy is dead AF on RS2. There is only Campaign mode.
Sunny maps in PR are always better than darker maps but Falkies is special.
32:00 This exploit single-handedly killed all SA servers for Rising Storm. Do NOT talk about it, ever.
ok now im curious because I might be thinking of a different thing
ive heard about it and seen videos on it, thats a shame
Im veteran HLL player and i agree with all that you said but somehow this game is more addicting to me than for example squad 44 and i still have hope that team17 continue to learn how to make new meaningful content...
man, i really miss the days of RO2
i hate the fact I missed it's peak
i think the weapons in tarkov feel better than in the other games and it looks and runs also better than unmodded squad, arma or ready or not
runs is debatable
God I wish 83' would have the same balance of gore, realism and arcade as RS2.
hello kitty island adventure??? thank you for covering my favorite game!!!
hey no worries man I'll have a more in depth review out soon
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