Would like to clear that the veil is NOT a ship! The veil is some sort of artifact on Neomuna, I still think the witness will use it and that it makes the enemies darkness enhanced! That is entirely my fault though on that oopsie, thanks commenters
@Anima Mirror yeah a key that isn't explained whatsoever despite all NPCs apparently knowing what it actually is and talking to us like we do as well.
Lightfall has come and we STILL have zero idea what tf the Veil actually is, just that it was used to open the Traveler in the cut in half ending cutscene that they shoved an entire filler incoherent mess of a campaign into.
@@zackphy Yup, dont expect the raid to explain much either. ;) It was confirmed that this expansion was just an extra, the true lightfall will come with the final shape
I’m just saying. Saint-14 said Bastion was our favorite weapon during Corridors of Time. So, either Bastion is going to get a massive buff one day, or we lied to keep Saint-14 happy.
If I recall, Bastion doesn't have a catalyst. It's possible that Bastion's catalyst will make the gun ridiculous (but not overpowered, obviously). Maybe it gives the gun a darkness damage type? maybe something like "thread snapper" where is synergizes stupid well with strand, like extra damage to strand-verbed enemies?
Between Revision Zero having multiple catalysts with different effects and Quicksilver Storms Catalyst making it into a Strand damage type; It's not out of the question that Exotics, particularly Kinetic exotics like Bastion, could get multiple catalysts as well.
I still believe that Wish 15 is purposefully "missing." “This one you shall cherish.” - Riven of a Thousand Voices Ahamkara draw power from the space between how things are and how one wants things to be. We the players want that wish, but will likely never get it, which gave Riven an infinite well of desire to pull from.
Just a quick note reinforcing the point about the Rasputin video - the accoutn name is 'Joyeuse7' - Joyeuse is one of the swords of Charlamagne, 'forged from the steel of Cortana and Durandal' . I wonder if, at a point, Ghost's name was Joyeuse, that seems quite plausible given the pattern from Marathon and Halo. Oh, and the 7 is because Bungie.
This may sound weird but we've spent 100s of hours in Last Wish searching for 15th wish. All over Dreaming City, too. There's a place by elevator, and a place by Mara's throne that are pretty cool. I think we have every inch examined. Brought snipers to examine far spots. Did with Grandson.
A theory that I loosely subscribe to is that the Witness' forces were on earth once before the Collapse, most likely during the times of ancient Mesopotamia to that of ancient Egypt. Evidence is K1, Clarity Control, Revision Zero, displays in the pyramid ships featuring architecture, language, and art very reminiscent of our own from that time period. As Osiris pointed out in a recent collecter's edition lore book, the Cabal and Eliksni also don't seemingly have any religions that we know of other than those featuring the Traveler. For us, however, we still had other religions during the golden age. It may be just a crack theory, but it's what I'm currently kinda hoping for.
@SlipperyStacks "It makes sense just like how the traveler was going from planet to planet empowering populations, the darkness was going around gathering disciples." That's actually the one piece that doesn't make sense to me. This is because if the Witness wanted Disciples, why did it not take what would follow it and destroy the remainder as it did with Hive and Rhulk's race? No, I think there is a different reason the Witness was here, one that I think we'll most likely see in Lightfall if the build-up is anything to go by.
@SlipperyStacks Possibly, but I think by the end of the first battle of light and dark is meant to be our big bang ending with the Gardener and the Winnower stuck in our universe. On a slightly separate note, there are two lines from savathun's from Alters of reflection referring to the Witness' origins I view as plausible. One refers to the Witness birthing the Darkness, and the other refers to the Witness' race being blessed by the light but changed after growing discontent. On the weapon Future Safe 10 there is this text "See who's robed as if a god, who stands with pride above the rest! Destroy this ancient nameless fraud! Destroy the one whose death was blessed!" Just something to think about.
@SlipperyStacks, then we have but a few questions remaining, don't we. Where was the Witness' species blessed, and how so? What Species was the Witness, and how was it changed after going against the Light? How is the Witness connected to Humanity? I've had my answer since Shadowkeep. What's yours?
So k1 is because of Nezerac, Clarity control is because it is the witness influencing Clovis, and Revision zero is made of material from the K1 artifact
We know now that Nezarec was known to pre-golden age humanity, so that's anywhere from 2014- to the beginning of recorded human history at least and since we also know he personally helmed the invasion of Sol during the collapse, it tracks.
I remember this idea of the Traveler being a vex construct as a huge plot twist. There was also the heart of the vex being inside the Traveler corrupting it.
@@Zayindjejfjthe Vex theory could still be plausible... Vex use Triangles as passageways and the Witness uses a Triangle to create a portal into the Traveller... So there is a somewhat a link to the Vex between them. Or maybe the Traveller created the Vex They were created in the "Primordial Garden" after all... Or maybe the Traveller hosts the Primordial Garden within it which could explain why it created plants when it fired at the pyramid ships. I have a feeling that within the Portal the Witness travelled through, the Primordial Garden is on the other side.
You didn't mention Sweat during the Gamer Sups thing.... Time for wild speculation! 1. Sweat lost his sponsorship. 2. Evan and CB now hate Sweat because he screams too much. 3. Sweat got arrested and evicted for continuously trying to light fires in the oven.
My uneducated guess for the "Take up your arms, my children" video is that it could be Clovis Bray communicating with early exos that haven't awaken yet, as we now know his intent to overthrow the Traveler. It could also be Rasputin training his various subminds before they became fully independent, talking to Siva to kill Felwinter, or maybe attempting to make more than one son alongside Felwinter.
I think a lot of people missed the image behind our rewards track this season. It shows a very similar image of the exo frame (shown in the eerie video) in renaissance style artwork. Reminds me of something from the Sistine Chapel
If you want to make another bizarre theory video, there's a fan theory that the Witness is our guardian from another timeline. You could honestly make an entire video around that theory as there is some (albeit small) evidence to back it up.
Calus’ ship is NOT the Veil lmao where did that come from??? It’s some kind of artifact related to the traveler hidden on Neptune, as we all know. My brain hurts trying to figure out why he said that 🧐😅😭
There was an old legendary sniper rifle in year 1 of D2 that talked about a sniper needing to move after firing a shot. My first thought was Devrim K was going to die or just need to move. Then Lightfall trailer drops and I saw him move. But will he die? I hope he does because I want his gun, specifically the No Land Beyond.
I feel like that is talking more about the traveler in this case. The traveler shot off the huge burst of light awhile back and destroyed a few darkness ships, but never moved from earth. Now we saw it try to move but it was too late and is already surrounded by the darkness.
The fact that !lettinggo came out before the destiny teaser in Halo will always be crazy to me. Bungie devs still capping to this day they didn't make that XD
What? Didn't hte video come out in 2011? Destiny was first teased in Halo 3: ODST in 2009. Not saying it can't still eb true, but Halo teased it before the video
I have a weird theory that the traveller was created by the witness's people and its basically an attempt at godhood , supposed to be an engine of pure creation they could control but instead turned into a rogue machine that gained sentience and has been running away for millennia from its creators. probably completely off but its still a cool concept i think.
What if the robot in the !lettinggo video isn’t Rasputin, what if it’s something inside the traveler/the traveler itself. “I am the eldritch glow that surrounds all things” “A sword you wield when you are afraid” “Once upon a time, no one fought over me” “I am the virgin queen from whom all was born” From the recent light fall trailers, we can see that the traveler can create life as we see it’s beam make trees grow from one of the pyramids. And the Morse code fits the traveler too. The video also says it had an awakening. But I dunno I might be trippin
Also one of the frames says “Somehow, the falling skies don’t seem to matter anymore now that we’re starside” This might possibly mean we lose? I’m kinda overlooking into this but the image behind the text also kinda looks like a city. What if the traveler is space jesus?
Crazy theory: Witness is AI: the collective mind of the Pyramid ships, their “pilot” and Winnower isnt Witness but the true master of the Darkness faction
Here’s my theory. The traveler wanted savathun to capture it. Savathun calls it her friend the traveler gave her the light willingly the traveler tries to leave only to have Rasputin pointed at it. It doesn’t have confidence in the guardians ability to protect it. That is all. I won’t have more on it until lightfall.
Cant forget that lightfall was a whole filler expansion made between 1 cutscene split into 2 sections. The beginning and end cutscene have 0 time between them, it literally picks up where it left off so everything in between was completely irrelevant
Great video, but I will say these theories seem a little milk-toast. Still interesting, just not as "bizarre" as I expected from the video's title. Would love to see more theories talked about! And don't be afraid to really get into the ridiculous ones!
I don't know how it would do as a series but a few more videos would be fantastic. I love fan theory's because it's a good little insight into the community as a whole.
So that Rasputin video, if that came out before Destiny then its most definitely a bungie made video. Bungie has a history of using Arthurian mythology i think its called, in their work. marathon had Durendal, sword of Roland. Halo had Cortana which is one letter off of Curtana, sword of Ogier. Joyeuse is the Sword of Charlemagne and Charlemagne was originally intended to be a warmind of its own of Mars. They were retconned to later be a submind of Rasputin along with the others we recovered during this season. There could very be more bungie videos out there like that with similar naming conventions.
I’d like to believe that the Galaxy Pools is where we fight The Witness, maybe there’s a point in time during the final battle where you get severely injured and end up in the Galaxy Pools since it would tie into the theory that it’s where Guardians come to die for real.
Definitely an interesting video that should be expanded upon. Any of the topics mentioned that have more details or a timeline to follow similar to how you do raid stories and such would be a great watch. Keep up the great work :)
The Telesto fakeout almost made me quit the game. They even hyped it up "What's going on!?" just to yank our dreams away. We were already content starved, and itching for another Whisper, or Zero Hour. We got a troll.
Maybe theory 9 is The Witness talking to us? I have no idea if he was even an idea that far back, but he does call us his children in the Witch Queen’s final cutscene.
Some are theorizing that Rasputin will be back as a full fledged exo since he made a sacrifice to save earth, I feel like we will get 2 missions where we are trying to find out something about it
It bothers me to an unbelievable amount that the location in your thumbnail STILL hasn't been used but as been accessible via OOB glitching since almost vanilla. It's such an awesome and mysterious space that's just being wasted and I hate that
In the tower, within the maintenance tunnel coming from the hanger side, there is an investigation point that tells us about a journal that name drops Anna Bray but the whole thing is redacted and there’s pages missing and everything going wrong
I feel like the darkness-enhanced enemies will be a weaker version of the twizzler-chimera enemies like Rhulk, Nezarec, and the Tormentors. Maybe with some Taken thrown in the mix somehow.
The Joyeuse7 video was confirmed to be fake by both bungie and the video poster iirc, but that was a while ago and the tumblr account from the poster isn't there anymore (or at least not under the old name/link).
my personal headcannon is that the Traveler isn't actually sentient, just that something sentient is observing it and controlling it. The Traveler plays VERY PASSIVELY, only leaving and reacting in response to serious threats like Ghaul or the Darkness itself. I think that the Traveler is just that, a traveler, meant to observe and collect, the Light and the Ghosts are perhaps a more necessary response due to its damage as because as far as I am aware the Traveler has never made Guardians before humanity (possibly as a result of the damage it suffered), to this extent even the Witness knows very little about it. I think he understand very little about what the Traveler is but understands that something far greater is going on than he knows. so yeah the Traveler isnt sentient and the Guardians are only a product of it needing protection to observe, only reacting and responding to actual threats to itself (but not Guardians)
Maybe it doesnt give the light, but rather it leaks an airborne molecule in a similar fashion to radiation that grants the light powers? Like you said, guardians didn't exist until it was damaged, and it couldnt give off the "radiation" until its integrity was breached
The first two time stamp are written with a capital T and the other ones are written with a normal t this isnt a big deal but i just wanted to put this out there
If you have to ask if it's a good video, it's probably not a good video. Maybe go way more in depth? I'm not sure what I expected from this but it definitely didn't seem fleshed out or thoroughly explained.
good video but i think it could have been better built because it feels a little bit like you just spread them around (the theories) without a lot thought (like it goes from HUGE theory to meh theory a lot of times rather what you were going for) but thats is my only complaint,i feel so "good" when i hear "dark stuff" about Destiny, because when really think about it, Destiny is more like a cosmic horror type story rather than fantasy si-fi and (this is just a fantasy of mine) i hope that Bungie really uses that in Lightfall, making you feel hopeless that such a being, the Witness, can be defeated and you should keep figthing not because you can defeat him, but more like is either fight and die with some meaning or accept your "destiny" and just give up, sorry i just love this kind of storytelling and Destiny has heaps of it in the lore and would be fun if they translated into gameplay, anyhow, great video, def try it again
Idk if the traveler is selfish. It seemed that at the end of seraph, it just...repositioned itself. Rasputin saying that the destruction would wipeout the last city, what if it already knew? What if it was positioning itself so that the warsats wouldnt destroy the city? I'm just saying, it seems really weird, that the traveler leaves whenever the darkness shows up, but chooses to stay NOW. We know in the time loop that Elsie watches the traveler able to evacuate. So...why is it staying? It obviously has other places it could go, or What Elsie was seeing in each of those loops wasn't accurate.
Keep in mind that AnonTheNine's leaks are the most trustworthy leaks in the history of this franchise, to the point Bungie themselves had to contact them to ask them to stop, per Anon's words. Anon's leaks were the only leaks you didn't need to take a grain of salt for, their leaks became true. ShadowOfAnonTheNine, however, was fake. They rode off Anon's legacy and ended up getting their Season of Opulence + Shadowkeep leaks very wrong.
Would like to clear that the veil is NOT a ship! The veil is some sort of artifact on Neomuna, I still think the witness will use it and that it makes the enemies darkness enhanced! That is entirely my fault though on that oopsie, thanks commenters
My theory is that the veil is going to be a sort of middle ground of the paracarsal game, the giant veiled woman.
Is actually a key to open up the portal on the traveler.
@Anima Mirror yeah a key that isn't explained whatsoever despite all NPCs apparently knowing what it actually is and talking to us like we do as well.
Lightfall has come and we STILL have zero idea what tf the Veil actually is, just that it was used to open the Traveler in the cut in half ending cutscene that they shoved an entire filler incoherent mess of a campaign into.
@@zackphy Yup, dont expect the raid to explain much either. ;) It was confirmed that this expansion was just an extra, the true lightfall will come with the final shape
I’m just saying. Saint-14 said Bastion was our favorite weapon during Corridors of Time. So, either Bastion is going to get a massive buff one day, or we lied to keep Saint-14 happy.
If I recall, Bastion doesn't have a catalyst. It's possible that Bastion's catalyst will make the gun ridiculous (but not overpowered, obviously).
Maybe it gives the gun a darkness damage type? maybe something like "thread snapper" where is synergizes stupid well with strand, like extra damage to strand-verbed enemies?
@@ashumon23 adding strand bonus damage would make it useful, maybe single visioned but has a purpose
Between Revision Zero having multiple catalysts with different effects and Quicksilver Storms Catalyst making it into a Strand damage type; It's not out of the question that Exotics, particularly Kinetic exotics like Bastion, could get multiple catalysts as well.
I have a feeling that was a different timeline so it's possible that version of us just really liked bastion
YOU DID WHAT?!
The Veil is not the ship, it is another artifact on Neomuna that we don't know anything about yet.
I was under the assumption it is where we'll discover/unlock strand.
@@TheDemanour The veil is connected to the traveler and the witness
Judging by the name, do you think its the object that Neomuna used to stay hidden?
I seriously don’t know where Evan is making these jumps
The veil is that thing that grew red trees as the witness approached it
I still believe that Wish 15 is purposefully "missing."
“This one you shall cherish.” - Riven of a Thousand Voices
Ahamkara draw power from the space between how things are and how one wants things to be. We the players want that wish, but will likely never get it, which gave Riven an infinite well of desire to pull from.
Bro it was Datamined..it’s non existent stop being a dweeb
I still think the 15th wish was the "Last Wish" that Riven used to curse the dreaming city.
@@SecretlySunTzuseason of the wish 3 months later:
This comment aged like fine wine.
Just a quick note reinforcing the point about the Rasputin video - the accoutn name is 'Joyeuse7' - Joyeuse is one of the swords of Charlamagne, 'forged from the steel of Cortana and Durandal' .
I wonder if, at a point, Ghost's name was Joyeuse, that seems quite plausible given the pattern from Marathon and Halo.
Oh, and the 7 is because Bungie.
Or maybe an exo character of some kind that was scrapped as exo naming scheme is name-number e.g. cayde-6 Ada-1
This may sound weird but we've spent 100s of hours in Last Wish searching for 15th wish. All over Dreaming City, too. There's a place by elevator, and a place by Mara's throne that are pretty cool.
I think we have every inch examined.
Brought snipers to examine far spots.
Did with Grandson.
A theory that I loosely subscribe to is that the Witness' forces were on earth once before the Collapse, most likely during the times of ancient Mesopotamia to that of ancient Egypt. Evidence is K1, Clarity Control, Revision Zero, displays in the pyramid ships featuring architecture, language, and art very reminiscent of our own from that time period. As Osiris pointed out in a recent collecter's edition lore book, the Cabal and Eliksni also don't seemingly have any religions that we know of other than those featuring the Traveler. For us, however, we still had other religions during the golden age. It may be just a crack theory, but it's what I'm currently kinda hoping for.
@SlipperyStacks "It makes sense just like how the traveler was going from planet to planet empowering populations, the darkness was going around gathering disciples." That's actually the one piece that doesn't make sense to me. This is because if the Witness wanted Disciples, why did it not take what would follow it and destroy the remainder as it did with Hive and Rhulk's race? No, I think there is a different reason the Witness was here, one that I think we'll most likely see in Lightfall if the build-up is anything to go by.
@SlipperyStacks Possibly, but I think by the end of the first battle of light and dark is meant to be our big bang ending with the Gardener and the Winnower stuck in our universe. On a slightly separate note, there are two lines from savathun's from Alters of reflection referring to the Witness' origins I view as plausible. One refers to the Witness birthing the Darkness, and the other refers to the Witness' race being blessed by the light but changed after growing discontent. On the weapon Future Safe 10 there is this text "See who's robed as if a god, who stands with pride above the rest!
Destroy this ancient nameless fraud! Destroy the one whose death was blessed!" Just something to think about.
@SlipperyStacks, then we have but a few questions remaining, don't we. Where was the Witness' species blessed, and how so? What Species was the Witness, and how was it changed after going against the Light? How is the Witness connected to Humanity? I've had my answer since Shadowkeep. What's yours?
So k1 is because of Nezerac, Clarity control is because it is the witness influencing Clovis, and Revision zero is made of material from the K1 artifact
We know now that Nezarec was known to pre-golden age humanity, so that's anywhere from 2014- to the beginning of recorded human history at least and since we also know he personally helmed the invasion of Sol during the collapse, it tracks.
Evil Traveler was my favorite theory. It was credible at the time with what we knew and what the lore was.
I remember this idea of the Traveler being a vex construct as a huge plot twist. There was also the heart of the vex being inside the Traveler corrupting it.
Ya know the inside of the traveler I think the veil could be there and the witness is hunting it…
Still is credible
I remember I heard that The Traveler could connect with the Hellsmouth on the moon and become a weapon.
@@Zayindjejfjthe Vex theory could still be plausible...
Vex use Triangles as passageways and the Witness uses a Triangle to create a portal into the Traveller...
So there is a somewhat a link to the Vex between them.
Or maybe the Traveller created the Vex
They were created in the "Primordial Garden" after all...
Or maybe the Traveller hosts the Primordial Garden within it which could explain why it created plants when it fired at the pyramid ships.
I have a feeling that within the Portal the Witness travelled through, the Primordial Garden is on the other side.
You didn't mention Sweat during the Gamer Sups thing....
Time for wild speculation!
1. Sweat lost his sponsorship.
2. Evan and CB now hate Sweat because he screams too much.
3. Sweat got arrested and evicted for continuously trying to light fires in the oven.
Isn't sweat going to be part of the day one raid race and hence can't be shout casting with evan and CB
@@SaieshanDadi SHHHHHHH!
You're gonna ruin it...
He's so fucking annoying, along with Gladd. They are both arrogant.
Sweat is always getting food delivered so I always assumed he has never opened the oven…
I have a feeling the oven's a metaphor...
My uneducated guess for the "Take up your arms, my children" video is that it could be Clovis Bray communicating with early exos that haven't awaken yet, as we now know his intent to overthrow the Traveler.
It could also be Rasputin training his various subminds before they became fully independent, talking to Siva to kill Felwinter, or maybe attempting to make more than one son alongside Felwinter.
considering it was three years before release, it was probably IG plot rasputin. nothing to relate it to now.
@@viviolet7 yeah i think also in the OG plot rasputin was supposed to be an EXO from the start
I think a lot of people missed the image behind our rewards track this season. It shows a very similar image of the exo frame (shown in the eerie video) in renaissance style artwork. Reminds me of something from the Sistine Chapel
If you want to make another bizarre theory video, there's a fan theory that the Witness is our guardian from another timeline. You could honestly make an entire video around that theory as there is some (albeit small) evidence to back it up.
I want to know more
Awesome theory, that I absolutely wish was true, but with the leak that just came out, probably not
Calus’ ship is NOT the Veil lmao where did that come from??? It’s some kind of artifact related to the traveler hidden on Neptune, as we all know. My brain hurts trying to figure out why he said that 🧐😅😭
There was an old legendary sniper rifle in year 1 of D2 that talked about a sniper needing to move after firing a shot. My first thought was Devrim K was going to die or just need to move. Then Lightfall trailer drops and I saw him move. But will he die? I hope he does because I want his gun, specifically the No Land Beyond.
Ok so i looked it up, cant find it. But i still remember it so its real somewhere.
I want his gun so bad as well.
I feel like that is talking more about the traveler in this case. The traveler shot off the huge burst of light awhile back and destroyed a few darkness ships, but never moved from earth. Now we saw it try to move but it was too late and is already surrounded by the darkness.
Yea, make it a series. It was pretty cool.
Damn Galaxy pools moment. Still can't believe they haven't used it since I found it.
The fact that !lettinggo came out before the destiny teaser in Halo will always be crazy to me. Bungie devs still capping to this day they didn't make that XD
For real there’s no way it wasn’t someone at Bungie
What? Didn't hte video come out in 2011? Destiny was first teased in Halo 3: ODST in 2009. Not saying it can't still eb true, but Halo teased it before the video
@@Freelancer837 Correct.
I really want the galaxy pools to be explained. The area is so damn cool, I need to know why it’s there
I have a weird theory that the traveller was created by the witness's people and its basically an attempt at godhood , supposed to be an engine of pure creation they could control but instead turned into a rogue machine that gained sentience and has been running away for millennia from its creators. probably completely off but its still a cool concept i think.
Actually kinda plausible my guy. Bravo 👏 im subscribing to this theory until its proven false now.
That actually sounds kinda dope tbh.
Both the Darkness and The Traveler existed long before the Witness came around.
@@AttiMatter Source? Cuz we dont know anything about the Witness let alone its origins or how old it is.
What if the robot in the !lettinggo video isn’t Rasputin, what if it’s something inside the traveler/the traveler itself.
“I am the eldritch glow that surrounds all things”
“A sword you wield when you are afraid”
“Once upon a time, no one fought over me”
“I am the virgin queen from whom all was born”
From the recent light fall trailers, we can see that the traveler can create life as we see it’s beam make trees grow from one of the pyramids.
And the Morse code fits the traveler too. The video also says it had an awakening.
But I dunno I might be trippin
Also one of the frames says
“Somehow, the falling skies don’t seem to matter anymore now that we’re starside”
This might possibly mean we lose? I’m kinda overlooking into this but the image behind the text also kinda looks like a city.
What if the traveler is space jesus?
I love this. I LOVE destiny theories. Please more papa
love the music you had playing during the last part of your video
(LIGHTFALL SPOILER) call me crazy but the aesthetics of the galaxy pools is quite close to the portal that opened on the traveler
A funny inside joke between friends is: "WE NEVER LEFT THE VAULT"
Crazy theory: Witness is AI: the collective mind of the Pyramid ships, their “pilot” and Winnower isnt Witness but the true master of the Darkness faction
The lack of true closure on the 15th wish and the blantant lack of acknowledgement on the mystery by bungie kinda infuriates me
3:15 "I feel that in Lightfall, players will get their answer."
Ooh...yikes..let's both wash that down with some whiskey
Here’s my theory. The traveler wanted savathun to capture it. Savathun calls it her friend the traveler gave her the light willingly the traveler tries to leave only to have Rasputin pointed at it. It doesn’t have confidence in the guardians ability to protect it. That is all. I won’t have more on it until lightfall.
So many good theories, the veil and the 15th wish I will still never understand for awhile, who knows what they are
6:09 Missed opportunity say “a game Theory…thanks for watching”
i think that was the joke tbh
Imagine if bungie looked at these videos for future lore, would be a very easy way to make your fans very happy
Cant forget that lightfall was a whole filler expansion made between 1 cutscene split into 2 sections. The beginning and end cutscene have 0 time between them, it literally picks up where it left off so everything in between was completely irrelevant
First Stasis, then Strand, then Shadow. Yes, Guardian, you will obtain the power of The Taken.
Great video, but I will say these theories seem a little milk-toast. Still interesting, just not as "bizarre" as I expected from the video's title.
Would love to see more theories talked about! And don't be afraid to really get into the ridiculous ones!
The telesto bug came out the week GOW Ragnorak dropped. I honestly think they did it just to keep people interested in the game lol
In the end, Your destiny lies beyond this system.
I don't know how it would do as a series but a few more videos would be fantastic.
I love fan theory's because it's a good little insight into the community as a whole.
So that Rasputin video, if that came out before Destiny then its most definitely a bungie made video. Bungie has a history of using Arthurian mythology i think its called, in their work. marathon had Durendal, sword of Roland. Halo had Cortana which is one letter off of Curtana, sword of Ogier. Joyeuse is the Sword of Charlemagne and Charlemagne was originally intended to be a warmind of its own of Mars. They were retconned to later be a submind of Rasputin along with the others we recovered during this season.
There could very be more bungie videos out there like that with similar naming conventions.
LOVE the vids like this you should make a destiny iceberg vid you know what im talking about
3:15 " and I feel that in Light Fall, players will get their answer"... lol that aged well...
absolutely make this a series.... maybe go more in-depth... kinda a lore video but theory ones....
0:14 it's spinfoil, not tinfoil! also I'm loving the music, especially the celeste track!
I’d like to believe that the Galaxy Pools is where we fight The Witness, maybe there’s a point in time during the final battle where you get severely injured and end up in the Galaxy Pools since it would tie into the theory that it’s where Guardians come to die for real.
6:09 i really thought Evan’s going to reference MattPat or something lmao
The man playing Hollow Knight music in a D2 vid? Now your speakin my language XD
Thank you for using the crystal caverns theme in the video. I like it.
It's fun reading the wild theories that have been coming out for Lightfall. I saw one where the traveler is the ghost of the witness
“In LightFall players you get their answer.” Man…
Love the video evan! Definitely make more of these. Super neat!
Definitely an interesting video that should be expanded upon. Any of the topics mentioned that have more details or a timeline to follow similar to how you do raid stories and such would be a great watch. Keep up the great work :)
Nice Celeste and hollow knight music
Make this a series!
Loved this style of video. Please do more. I love the throwbacks to old theories from d1
this format was very "iceberg" I liked it
I'd definitely want to see more of this kind of videos. That was great!
Last exit.... I'm pretty sure someone had to have had a mental break on this lol
The Telesto fakeout almost made me quit the game. They even hyped it up "What's going on!?" just to yank our dreams away. We were already content starved, and itching for another Whisper, or Zero Hour. We got a troll.
THE FIFTEENTH WISH
THE FIFTEENTH WISH IS REAAAAALLLL
Lol, 9 months later we got the seasone of the witch and than after it the seasone of the wish
Welp Theory 6: the 15th wish Exists.
this should definitely be a series!
Yes. Make this a series.
"This message is insanely creepy have a listen" (cuts to another genshin impact advertisement)
Imagine if we didnt listen to savathun, the dreaming city wouldnt have been turned into a curse
Def digging the vibes of this video, great job Evan!
Maybe theory 9 is The Witness talking to us? I have no idea if he was even an idea that far back, but he does call us his children in the Witch Queen’s final cutscene.
I cannot wait for my withess to win… for justice to be served… then will be unserved again in final shape
Crystal claymore. Damn. Though i hope we can see older weapons get deepsight. I miss my leviathin raid weapons.
When Evanf1997 said “but that’s just theory” did anyone else think or say “ a game theory” ? 😂
Some are theorizing that Rasputin will be back as a full fledged exo since he made a sacrifice to save earth, I feel like we will get 2 missions where we are trying to find out something about it
It bothers me to an unbelievable amount that the location in your thumbnail STILL hasn't been used but as been accessible via OOB glitching since almost vanilla. It's such an awesome and mysterious space that's just being wasted and I hate that
Telesto is actually The Veil.
The 15th wish is in all likelihood still out there. Given that Mara has expressed desire to break the curse within the last year
MAKE A SERIES THIS WAS GREAT!!!!
That Rasputin prediction is very strange since the vid was posted 11 years ago
In the tower, within the maintenance tunnel coming from the hanger side, there is an investigation point that tells us about a journal that name drops Anna Bray but the whole thing is redacted and there’s pages missing and everything going wrong
I feel like the darkness-enhanced enemies will be a weaker version of the twizzler-chimera enemies like Rhulk, Nezarec, and the Tormentors. Maybe with some Taken thrown in the mix somehow.
Great video. And excellent timing!
lmao at the movie theory reference.
The Veil isn’t his ship? He’s going to neptune to look for the Veil..
Oxa and the veil are tied together
The Joyeuse7 video was confirmed to be fake by both bungie and the video poster iirc, but that was a while ago and the tumblr account from the poster isn't there anymore (or at least not under the old name/link).
Good video. Could be a cool series but I’ll watch any D2 you upload
it would be cool if this was a series, always love hearing about theory's in destiny even if there not true. always entertaining!
WE DID NOT GET AN ANSWER TO THE TRAVELER’S MOTIVES IN LIGHTFALL. IN FACT, WHAT THE FLYING FUDGE IS THE VEIL?!?!?
remember the fan theory of "We're the Bad Guys"
my personal headcannon is that the Traveler isn't actually sentient, just that something sentient is observing it and controlling it. The Traveler plays VERY PASSIVELY, only leaving and reacting in response to serious threats like Ghaul or the Darkness itself. I think that the Traveler is just that, a traveler, meant to observe and collect, the Light and the Ghosts are perhaps a more necessary response due to its damage as because as far as I am aware the Traveler has never made Guardians before humanity (possibly as a result of the damage it suffered), to this extent even the Witness knows very little about it. I think he understand very little about what the Traveler is but understands that something far greater is going on than he knows.
so yeah the Traveler isnt sentient and the Guardians are only a product of it needing protection to observe, only reacting and responding to actual threats to itself (but not Guardians)
Maybe it doesnt give the light, but rather it leaks an airborne molecule in a similar fashion to radiation that grants the light powers? Like you said, guardians didn't exist until it was damaged, and it couldnt give off the "radiation" until its integrity was breached
The first two time stamp are written with a capital T and the other ones are written with a normal t this isnt a big deal but i just wanted to put this out there
Are we getting lightfall campaign and raid merch? Your WQ stuff slapped.
yep!
@@evanf1997 LET'S GOOOOOOOOO! So so hyped!
We want more if this 😁
If you have to ask if it's a good video, it's probably not a good video.
Maybe go way more in depth? I'm not sure what I expected from this but it definitely didn't seem fleshed out or thoroughly explained.
IM SO READY FOR A D3 NGL, THEY JUST NEED TO FIX EVERTHTING AT THIS POINT
love these kinds of videos, keep it up
can you tell me what that was playing in the background, its really something...moody and slow, like dread.
good video but i think it could have been better built because it feels a little bit like you just spread them around (the theories) without a lot thought (like it goes from HUGE theory to meh theory a lot of times rather what you were going for) but thats is my only complaint,i feel so "good" when i hear "dark stuff" about Destiny, because when really think about it, Destiny is more like a cosmic horror type story rather than fantasy si-fi and (this is just a fantasy of mine) i hope that Bungie really uses that in Lightfall, making you feel hopeless that such a being, the Witness, can be defeated and you should keep figthing not because you can defeat him, but more like is either fight and die with some meaning or accept your "destiny" and just give up, sorry i just love this kind of storytelling and Destiny has heaps of it in the lore and would be fun if they translated into gameplay, anyhow, great video, def try it again
Idk if the traveler is selfish. It seemed that at the end of seraph, it just...repositioned itself. Rasputin saying that the destruction would wipeout the last city, what if it already knew? What if it was positioning itself so that the warsats wouldnt destroy the city?
I'm just saying, it seems really weird, that the traveler leaves whenever the darkness shows up, but chooses to stay NOW. We know in the time loop that Elsie watches the traveler able to evacuate.
So...why is it staying? It obviously has other places it could go, or What Elsie was seeing in each of those loops wasn't accurate.
I would love a series of theories :)
Keep in mind that AnonTheNine's leaks are the most trustworthy leaks in the history of this franchise, to the point Bungie themselves had to contact them to ask them to stop, per Anon's words.
Anon's leaks were the only leaks you didn't need to take a grain of salt for, their leaks became true.
ShadowOfAnonTheNine, however, was fake. They rode off Anon's legacy and ended up getting their Season of Opulence + Shadowkeep leaks very wrong.
The traveler is the architects
the triumphs or things in that area did say there was a 15th wish ~🐱