This is the Unsolved Mystery of Destiny 2's 15th Wish! Do you think Bungie does something with this or do you think it's as good as history? Special thanks to my new Patrons: www.patreon.com/evanf1997
I'm pretty sure we know now that it was Savathun who made the 15th wish, and it was much more powerful due to her death and how ahamkaras can use there power after death
The 15th wish showed up in the API in the same context as the 14th other wishes that guardians can make at the wish wall. Why would this 15th wish suddenly appear in the API long after the "last wish" was already made? There's no sense in that. It's only called the "last wish" because it is the only wish that isn't discovered. The fact that terminology happens to be the name of the raid itself causes people to assume the "last 15th wish" is riven's "last wish". Why would we input rivens last wish into the wish wall in the raid? lol
The recent leaks are saying next season will revisit the dreaming city and finish its story, with that in mind, season 15. Might have a finale to the hunt for the 15th wish
In regards to the 15th Wish simply being the Last Wish itself, there's actually a subtle detail in Riven's design, with her eyes forming the shape of an upside-down Roman numeral 15, XV, as if flipped on the x-axis of a graph, meaning it looks like XA minus the A's horizontal line
There is a theory that seems to me like the most plausible, but unconfirmed, that the 15th wish is for the team of 6 (the world first team) to defeat Riven - hence her eyes shine during the boss fight just like mentioned in lore books. And this wish actually grants her the power to grant Savathun's wish (which she literally calls the Last Wish).
@@z--r0 This is most likely what Bungie intended, but as Evan pointed out they're probably going to pivot and make the last wish be the ending of the curse and have the other one be the 16th wish.
He should've been given the title of "TAKEN" in the green/blight color of the taken faction. He followed the instructions of Savathun, so he basically did her bidding. He's one of her minions now :D. It was fun to chase really but I honestly did not expect anything to happen.I mean come on, every secret has been a secret in form of code, hidden symbols, sequences, sounds etc. Here comes, presumably a block of text with clear instructions and we all expect it to solve the mistery hunt that has been going on for a YEAR?. I wouldn't bet on it.
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I always assumed that the 15th wish was our wish to defeat Riven. The wish that was hidden from us in plain sight, if only our ambition didn’t cloud our judgement
I have a feeling it’s gonna be this year, there’s a part of a certain trailer (I think season of the hunt) where we see a split second of darkness splinters in the dreaming city, and that hasn’t happened yet, so I think when the darkness goes there, it might happen
That makes sense.... Why remove content (the Ascendant Challenges, that 3 mission cycle, Shattered Throne etc) on a 3 year old location..... The Dreaming City will be rather barren and plain without the Taken corruption..... they'll just remove the whole place first...
@@kingjezza6567 Wish 15 will probably be next season and be the thing that ties the dreaming city to witch queen. Either it's the center point of next season or its revealed at the end of next season
As someone who played the entire life cycle of d1, and joined 2020 solstice for d2. Learning how the destiny community has evolved in all these years. I love these videos so much. Byf is for insane lore, Evan is for community lore. Love you my friend
@@GoldenSkies061 Sjur Eido was dead by the time the Shaxx booty call happened. But yes, it seems that the majority of Destiny characters in relationships are gay of some flavor. Seems like the writers have some kind of unhealthy obsession to me.
I don’t have this privilege, but if someone has a solid raid group, could you possibly run through last wish, hear where all the chimes are and see if they correlate with the wish board in anyway? As in if the first time you hear it, it sounds X amount of times and that could link to first line of circles on the wish board? (Speculation)
@@Daarn1 I do have a group doing just that, we are just all busy so its kinda hard. Most of the chimes are in the first area before the first encounter, and we have those mapped out. there are chimes on the path to suro chi and one near morgeth as well. I suspect we havent found all of them yet.
I like to think that the 15th wish is the community’s desire or “wish” to find it. Think about it the 15th wish is pretty much a legend at this point. A legendary mystery filled with twists and turns that everyone that has played Destiny 2 shall cherish forever….
Great job! Chronicler was one of the most fun seals to get. It was a lot of reading but it provided so much clarity within the Forsaken story and the dreaming city.
@@doc8732 I needed one last visit to the throne room to get the last lore entry before it was sunset. Extremely painful realizing that I wasn't going to get Chronicler even though the Dreaming City is still in the game.
I still to this day, believe that the 15th wish being “a wish to feed an addiction” is meant to be a long chase without an answer. The addiction that it feeds, is the addiction to finding new secrets in the game.
This wish is pretty much going to fullfill next season (S15), when Mara returns and ends the curse. The wish to end the curse and bring the dreaming city situation to a conclusion.
Of course. I'm not saying it WILL be next year, but season 15 can be a good end to the story. Like how the story for mars was over years before the planet was removed. We still have time for the dreaming city, but at least there will be less loose ends when it's gone.
Here's a thought, have we explored well enough Vault of Glass Raid? Considering that we are now doing new activities in the Dreaming City, wouldn't that bug be the last wish before the release of "The witch queen", it is just a thought.
Excellent video. I think the 15th wish may of originally been the raid itself. I also think like you said that its popularity will lead to Bungie eventually reuse it. Seems like an OBVIOUS way for them to sunset the dreaming city
Congratulations on finally releasing the huge project Evan. It really looks like you and your team out a lot of hard work into it and the video turned out amazing. The 15th wish better be worth it if we ever find it.
You mean the enemies? I literally had someone get kicked out of my raid and he got banned from PlayStation after sending the fire team leader notes of "kys" and such, we knew he was banned as he apologized on his second account (in last wish)
My theory: Wish 15 = season 15, theres an ahamkara egg in mara's chamber this season, maybe its under the egg, or maybe, inside the egg. just speculating.
It's honestly the things like this that make me come back. The community events/secrets that happen. Things like the 7th chest to the original VoG, or the first secret mission to get Black Spindle, a literal geocache hunt during the Warmind dlc (don't expect to see those again), or the sheer clusterfuck (in a good way) of shit that happened after The Last Wish raid was beaten the first time. I'll get frustrated with the game, but still love when the community gets exciting. Despite the ups and downs of the game, I hope the community stays awesome.
I am BEGGING bungie to create another expansion like Forsaken, that era was incredible. Forsaken is not only peak destiny content, Forsaken is peak Gaming content!
Ikr ? I Hope bungie realises that the little details and passion that they put into foursaken was every gamer's dream coming true, the best DLC that destiny has ever had to this day.
I still think that the crew working on beyond light was a smaller one and that the rest of the employees at bungie were trying to make witch queen, lightfall and the unnamed dlc after lightfall just as good if not better than forsaken
I agree, forsaken not only was fantastic, but it was exactly what Destiny needed. Also remember that Forsaken had Activision money/backing/teams helping with it. With bungie going solo, who knows when that's possible.
I bet even if the final wish was found by random guessing into the wall, there may be some requirement or time gated by bungie until the player base truly found it. I would love it if it just said something like “you are not worthy of this wish” then crash your game.
The wall have 20 options to put around 320 different combinations wich you need like a minute to try all of them or more, it will take days or inclusive months without exiting the game to solve it
@@CapCody hey man. The math is wrong / not complete. There are 17 symbols (no symbol included) there are 20 places where you can put in the symbols. So that's mean 17^20. = 4 064 231 406 647 572 522 401 601 combinations. So it's impossible to try them out.
@@drifter3983 even if we assume that you can test one combination a second, it'd still take 1.28790472 × 10^17 years to check them all, while the age of our universe is 1.38 x 10^10
Arent they talking about vaulting forsaken content when witch queen comes out? If thats true then the 15th wish wouldnt have anything to do with it. We should know whats getting vaulted in the coming months so thatll tell us if that theory is worth thinking about.
Years later, season 23, Season of the Wish: wouldnt you like to know the answer? (this is still around 20 days before the launch of Season of the Wish. I love how a game's lore keeps going like this, doing callbacks to the past and being the keys to save the day.)
This was absolutely fantastic! Bravo bravo! I'm happy to of been part of this process and watch things unravel. From the anticipation to raid day, to attempting world's first, to giving up and watching redeem rip out the heart of riven. Such great memories! Can't wait for the witch queen and the 15th wish! Great content 👍
This video was a great experience. The way you included other content creators was a surprise to me and I thought that it fit the video perfectly. Keep up the good work. :)
When he said, "Can't it be both?", could there be something in Last Exit, to do with the Last Wish code? Thta it is real, but is also part of Dstiny's biggest Troll?
I've always maintained, especially with Quria being the final boss of Season 14, that Wish 15 is relevant to Season 15, where we take the fight to Savathun and use the Wish to break the Curse on the Dreaming City. This is especially relevant because, and please tell me if I'm wrong, Quria is the one powering the three week loop on the Dreaming City. If anything, the Curse loop on the Dreaming City was Quria's testbed for the Endless Night on the Last City. Proof of concept that the Taken Vex Mind was able to sustain a Simulation in real-time on a long-term basis.
@@bobbyhill2951 probably just a big Bungie troll. As mentioned in the video, it doesn’t have any code, thus doesn’t exist. Also, the name. Last Wish. The reason it’s in light.gg is because it is a triumph in game. You can see it. It’s just not achievable
@@mangocad189 she is in control of quria yes but quria is ultimately responsible for the cycle itself much like the endless night and how Mithrax says that the only way to break its cycle is by destroying quria
Dude thank you so much for spending the time to make this video like this is truly epic I love listening to the story and being part of it again just so nostalgic and just really really good thank you. ❤️
I absolutely love that you collaborated with all those other Destiny TH-cam creators. Please consider doing this more often. My favorite though was Marco reading numbers.
I hope The Witch Queen DLC gives the Dreaming City some form of closure, either to its secrets, curse or anything really. Just not DCV kind of closure.
Old video, I know. And I doubt anyone will necessarily see this comment, but I had a thought. Since the release of the Witch Queen, Bungie actively decided NOT to sunset to Dreaming City along with the Tangle Shore, meaning that the Last Wish is still accessible even to this day. With the Season of the Haunted, we find ourselves back in the Leviathan, the first raid in Destiny 2 history, and with promise of another Destiny 1 raid returning next season. Perhaps in the following season, or even in the returning raid, we will have an activity to do regarding a change of form within the Last Wish. My bet is that the returning raid will be King's Fall, and perhaps with a Touch of Malice in hand, a return to the Dreaming City is in order. After all, it is Oryx that took Riven in the first place, and Savathûn that then superceded command over her after Oryx's death. I wouldn't personally even know where to begin looking, but as you mentioned in the conclusion, I believe Bungie knows that we will never be satisfied without a concrete 15th wish to enter into the wall.
It’s nearly gaurenteed, we saw Pyramids in hunt trailer, there’s 15 wishes, next season is season 15, SPOILERS: we know it’s about Mara Sov coming back and Savathun needing us and taken. While this season we finally get to meet Quria, the Taken Vex mind that literally created the the curse cycle.
@@Solikyre , we met quira this season actually, when Mithraax was pulling you out a massive green/black vex mind appears at the last moment, also quira talks to you via the radar in corrupted missions
Since Quria is behind the Endless night of the Last City, if we take her out next week then that could lead to affecting the Dreaming City and finally fixing it. It could also lead to Mara returning and having a moment with Crow meeting her. I’m just making an guess though but sounds right story-wise.
I just realized Eris Morn at the end of the Taken king mentioned "her plan" and the crystal Oryx left behind being part of it... She wasn't talking about Mara, but Savathun...
Taken king and forsaken were some of the most fun and best memories I’ve had in destiny, especially forsaken, I can proudly say I ran all legit rivens until I got my rivensbane
I had a theory at the time: If you manipulate the camera in certain ways, you can see inside of NPC models. Back when Mara's throne room would appear every 3rd week, I kept looking inside her head. I really wish that turned out to be true, but I never saw anything.
My prediction is that the 15th wish is for Mara Sov to come back at the end of Season 15. However the trick to this one (because all riven wishes have tricks) is that somehow it will destroy the dreaming city, ending Season 15 and bringing in the Witch Queen expansion by sunsetting Forsaken content.
@@smallen6872 or the wish's words involve "empower the queen" or something of the sort, leading both to Mara Sov coming back and Savathun (the other queen) becoming more powerful leading to the events of the Witch Queen expansion.
Woa, i think you do have a point. :) It would tie up the narative perfectly, the wish could be "Bring back Mara, to end the curse". And it destroys the deaming city in the progress, beacuse it ended the curse forever..... Then it gets into the DCV You're genius
@@gsc8713 i dont want it but it will probably happen going off of bungie's current model of sunsetting. y1 content sunset with beyond light, y2 with Witch Queen, etc.
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Theory: when you finish the vex catalyst quest after killing a lot of oracles a portal opens that you can see through. Maybe the final wish can be seen in there?
That’s an Easter egg from the old whisper of the worm mission… in that mission you can trigger oracles from vog to spawn for a secret chest and there’s a portal where you stand… you can look through the portal and see the vault of glass jumping puzzle ( where you finish the catalyst) on the other side
I've always thought that the Last Wish itself was the 15th wish, at least going off that ending cutscene you get for completing the raid. Riven grants wishes, even grants us wishes, so it's fitting that she'd grant her own "last wish"
What if the oracles in last wish wasn’t an accident? Let me explain, having the sound of the oracles in last wish wouldn’t make any sense as they were in destiny because of whisper but it wouldn’t be included into last wish by accident just because of that. What if it was meant to link us to the vault of glass? My theory is sometime this season we will get the wish, either that or next season sometime. But this season has a lot of involvement with Savathun because of quaria the taken mind, or it may even have a involvement with the vault of glass itself in the current or “master” version which may be a taken version like the corrupted versions of the expunge missions
@@kidoliva that is quite likely my point was that it’s in two separate files (at least that’d be my guess) so it’s not too likely that two different audio files from different game/dlc files would cross over. Now it was likely a bug but I’m wondering if it wasn’t semi intentional at least to some extent
It might have been a bug. But, we do know that quoria manages the dreaming city curse for savathun. We are killing or capturing her this season. Vault came back this season. Fun coincidence? Maybe. Do i expect the 15th wish to be revealed after we kill Quoria anyway? Very much yes.
The oracles were definitely not a bug. When we first heard them, it was at the beginning of the raid, hitting the first load zone if I’m not mistaken(I could be, it’s been awhile). But later on in that season, you could start hearing the oracles in queens walk when you’re were inside of the heart. Idk if it’s still there, haven’t done LW in months
It was always weird because we knew what the 15th wish did but it wasn't in the game or any of the trailers like the one on the shield. If anyone doesn't know it was supposed to give you voice lines through the raid like failsafe and the drifter, but instead they were from shaxx. A nod to the helmet staying on 😏
This is the Unsolved Mystery of Destiny 2's 15th Wish! Do you think Bungie does something with this or do you think it's as good as history?
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15th wish is the raid lol, "last wish"
Has anyone ever taken all of the ahamkara armour peices and done the 15th wish?
What about layering all the wishes on top of one another?
Savathun saying in the twab [I am the ending] might mean we will get it during witch queen.
I see how it is! I read 999, poor Marco reads a number in the Septillions 😂
Phenomenal video dude!
Thanks for helping me understanding destiny Byf.
Lore daddy
Holy shit! It’s Byf
Hey Lore Daddy, nice to see you around.
When he got to the part about the lore, I said to myself, well clearly this is where he uses Byf's voice.
I think the 15th wish was for datto’s team to be 2 minutes faster
lul
Painfully true
sadge
Shit man you didn’t have to go that personal
Bruh
Bro I can't believe it took 200 years and half of Bungie's employees to get the 15th wish.
Ikr
I always assumed the 15th wish was the wish Riven used to "curse" the dreaming city.
Or her wish to die
I'm pretty sure we know now that it was Savathun who made the 15th wish, and it was much more powerful due to her death and how ahamkaras can use there power after death
I think the 15th wish will be what frees the Dreaming City from the curse loop.
yea, or something else along those lines, where it’s not an actual wish you can put into the wall
The 15th wish showed up in the API in the same context as the 14th other wishes that guardians can make at the wish wall. Why would this 15th wish suddenly appear in the API long after the "last wish" was already made? There's no sense in that. It's only called the "last wish" because it is the only wish that isn't discovered. The fact that terminology happens to be the name of the raid itself causes people to assume the "last 15th wish" is riven's "last wish". Why would we input rivens last wish into the wish wall in the raid? lol
The recent leaks are saying next season will revisit the dreaming city and finish its story, with that in mind, season 15. Might have a finale to the hunt for the 15th wish
Hey..... Didn't notice that... Season 15.....
....Season Of The Wish...
@@hunterofthenorth4482 rly? Is this really datamined name? Or just speculation?
@@notveryartificial4486 its speculation lol, its what I've been calling this 'dreaming city season
@@hunterofthenorth4482 it would be amazing to see our little thread here become true XD, also a very good name which I wouldn’t doubt
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I saw the length and I can’t even imagine how this took to put together
Have you seen Byf’s 4 hour long lore video?
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In regards to the 15th Wish simply being the Last Wish itself, there's actually a subtle detail in Riven's design, with her eyes forming the shape of an upside-down Roman numeral 15, XV, as if flipped on the x-axis of a graph, meaning it looks like XA minus the A's horizontal line
Could the wish be in rivens eyes, I mean her eyes look like they could line up. So maybe?
This needs to be seen by @evanf1997
I thought it would’ve been cool if they made the stars in Mara sovs throne world constellations that match symbols of the wish wall.
There is a theory that seems to me like the most plausible, but unconfirmed, that the 15th wish is for the team of 6 (the world first team) to defeat Riven - hence her eyes shine during the boss fight just like mentioned in lore books. And this wish actually grants her the power to grant Savathun's wish (which she literally calls the Last Wish).
@@z--r0 This is most likely what Bungie intended, but as Evan pointed out they're probably going to pivot and make the last wish be the ending of the curse and have the other one be the 16th wish.
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Un shitting myself by this comment 😂😂😂
10 months later and it still deserves an upvote
Ay this is gold
The real 15th wish was the friends we made along the way
They really should have given bagel a special emblem or something. That was such a disappointing moment, I can only imagine how he felt about it lol.
Yeah that would’ve actually been cool.
He should've been given the title of "TAKEN" in the green/blight color of the taken faction. He followed the instructions of Savathun, so he basically did her bidding. He's one of her minions now :D.
It was fun to chase really but I honestly did not expect anything to happen.I mean come on, every secret has been a secret in form of code, hidden symbols, sequences, sounds etc. Here comes, presumably a block of text with clear instructions and we all expect it to solve the mistery hunt that has been going on for a YEAR?. I wouldn't bet on it.
I genuinely would’ve stopped playing if I was him.
@lewdmeat In what way, genuinely curious, mate?
@@DeLawrence97 yea
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Sorable returning to D2???
Season 15, 15th wish, now people know that season 15 is about the dreaming city. it all lines up
I will definitely be using 1k and claws of ahamkara for the wish then!
Thats... actually not that bad of a theory lmao
I’ve been thinking this for while
There was that one leak that referred to Mara and the dreaming city for next season
Especially if we kill Quaria in S14.
15th WISH IS REAL
I always assumed that the 15th wish was our wish to defeat Riven. The wish that was hidden from us in plain sight, if only our ambition didn’t cloud our judgement
The 15th with is to quit destiny
I have a feeling it’s gonna be this year, there’s a part of a certain trailer (I think season of the hunt) where we see a split second of darkness splinters in the dreaming city, and that hasn’t happened yet, so I think when the darkness goes there, it might happen
After All, season 15 is next season...
@@lachlan6989 Waaaaiiiitt.... that would actually make alot of sense.
Yup next season which is season FIFTEEN
@@lachlan6989 biggest brain
Also in the season of the hunt trailer the warlock in the dreaming city is using DMT
they'll tell us about the 15th wish when they decide to vault dreaming city
That makes sense.... Why remove content (the Ascendant Challenges, that 3 mission cycle, Shattered Throne etc) on a 3 year old location..... The Dreaming City will be rather barren and plain without the Taken corruption..... they'll just remove the whole place first...
the 15th wish will probably involve the witch queen DLC.
@@TheAsyl2015 or next season ….. but most likely Witch Queen
@@kingjezza6567 Wish 15 will probably be next season and be the thing that ties the dreaming city to witch queen. Either it's the center point of next season or its revealed at the end of next season
It’s in the vault of glass on Mars!
The fifteenth wish is the one that summons Lord Shaxx to your bedchamber
And the helmet stays on
I hope so he is a chad and I want to go bowling with him and maybe play horseshoes
Fifteen wish give us a discount code for Mara sov bath water
Excuse me, that is my FIRST wish, thank you very much.
@@puluzu only wish tbh
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Damn today they finally found the 15th wish
The 15th wish is what Mara used to summon Shax. As the texts say. "The helmet stayed on"
Lol
LMFAO
...mara's gay, bro.
@@GoldenSkies061 Sjur Eido was dead by the time the Shaxx booty call happened. But yes, it seems that the majority of Destiny characters in relationships are gay of some flavor. Seems like the writers have some kind of unhealthy obsession to me.
@@joshuavidrine889 kinda unhealthy to be straight ngl
This man really said “I won’t waste your time” and then actually didn’t waste my time
Don't you mean actually did waste our time
51 minute long video and I hit 30 minutes realized why the hell am I watching this and now I'm replying to you.
To be completely clear, the Oracle chimes were never actually confirmed to be a bug
Is each chime sound unique to the order that they appear in the raids?
@@Tracker947 Yep.
I don’t have this privilege, but if someone has a solid raid group, could you possibly run through last wish, hear where all the chimes are and see if they correlate with the wish board in anyway? As in if the first time you hear it, it sounds X amount of times and that could link to first line of circles on the wish board? (Speculation)
@@Daarn1 I do have a group doing just that, we are just all busy so its kinda hard.
Most of the chimes are in the first area before the first encounter, and we have those mapped out. there are chimes on the path to suro chi and one near morgeth as well. I suspect we havent found all of them yet.
@@MorDikEye-n-Rigby I wish you all the best of luck! I’ll be cheering from the sideline
And now ascendant lens is used to get three jurassic greens.
I like to think that the 15th wish is the community’s desire or “wish” to find it. Think about it the 15th wish is pretty much a legend at this point. A legendary mystery filled with twists and turns that everyone that has played Destiny 2 shall cherish forever….
What if some random new light player found the wish and doesn’t know what it is.
Great job! Chronicler was one of the most fun seals to get. It was a lot of reading but it provided so much clarity within the Forsaken story and the dreaming city.
Sucks, I am missing just one book from dreaming city to get it... I'll never get it.
@@AtlantisBrooke Sorry to hear that... it was such a grind, but rewarding.
@@doc8732 I needed one last visit to the throne room to get the last lore entry before it was sunset. Extremely painful realizing that I wasn't going to get Chronicler even though the Dreaming City is still in the game.
I still to this day, believe that the 15th wish being “a wish to feed an addiction” is meant to be a long chase without an answer. The addiction that it feeds, is the addiction to finding new secrets in the game.
Uhh no?
The 15th Wish is "This one you shall cherish..."
@@elongatedalbatross9318 LOL
The last wish is the one that allowed the Dreaming City to transform.
@@KRYMauL then why is it one we would Cherish?
@@tikamarx1547 Because it allowed you to increase your light for an entire year.
the day has come
Now that the new season is around the dreaming city again, mara is back, and the season is extra long, I think maybe we might get one last wish
season 15 btw, think about it
I don't think I've ever been this excited for a TH-cam video, it feels like a movie, great work man
This wish is pretty much going to fullfill next season (S15), when Mara returns and ends the curse. The wish to end the curse and bring the dreaming city situation to a conclusion.
Then they can finally sunset forsaken content, as Bungie has already said would happen.
This makes sense though lol
How are people that dont have forsaken free the city?
@@the_hamburman they said it would be EVENTUALLY. If it was going to be in the next year, they would have said so already
Of course. I'm not saying it WILL be next year, but season 15 can be a good end to the story. Like how the story for mars was over years before the planet was removed. We still have time for the dreaming city, but at least there will be less loose ends when it's gone.
Here's my hypothesis: the fifteenth wish will be in a secret room relating to shaxx. When activated it reads the lore "the helmet stayed on"
Thanks for doing these kinds of videos Evan, it keeps me interested in destiny's universe even though I stopped playing 1 year ago! Huge work dude!
Here's a thought, have we explored well enough Vault of Glass Raid? Considering that we are now doing new activities in the Dreaming City, wouldn't that bug be the last wish before the release of "The witch queen", it is just a thought.
Excellent video. I think the 15th wish may of originally been the raid itself. I also think like you said that its popularity will lead to Bungie eventually reuse it. Seems like an OBVIOUS way for them to sunset the dreaming city
Am I high? How did you comment this a week ago? The video just came out.
@@jay-san464 patreon got the video early I'm pretty sure
@@jay-san464 you can comment on video if said youtuber makes the date on youtube its possible to commment
Congratulations on finally releasing the huge project Evan. It really looks like you and your team out a lot of hard work into it and the video turned out amazing. The 15th wish better be worth it if we ever find it.
oh hey muffinbandit
Maybe the real 15th wish is the friends we made on the way.
Stolen
Too wholesome
Nah, it’s not stolen. It’s such a popular phrase that anyone would say it without noticing.
i looked for this comment
"This one you shall cherish." -Riven of a Thousand Voices, what do you cheerish? Friendships! checks out
Oh how the turntables!
Subbed after watching. Great content brother. I cant imagine the amount of information gathering, editing, and time it took for this massive project.
I absolutely loved that you covered this topic! I've always been fascinated by the idea of the 15th wish.
Maybe the Last Wish was the friends we made along the way.
You mean the enemies? I literally had someone get kicked out of my raid and he got banned from PlayStation after sending the fire team leader notes of "kys" and such, we knew he was banned as he apologized on his second account (in last wish)
If destiny ever has a movie, we need evan and byf on it 100%
Nope😂
My theory: Wish 15 = season 15, theres an ahamkara egg in mara's chamber this season, maybe its under the egg, or maybe, inside the egg. just speculating.
It's honestly the things like this that make me come back. The community events/secrets that happen. Things like the 7th chest to the original VoG, or the first secret mission to get Black Spindle, a literal geocache hunt during the Warmind dlc (don't expect to see those again), or the sheer clusterfuck (in a good way) of shit that happened after The Last Wish raid was beaten the first time. I'll get frustrated with the game, but still love when the community gets exciting. Despite the ups and downs of the game, I hope the community stays awesome.
I am BEGGING bungie to create another expansion like Forsaken, that era was incredible. Forsaken is not only peak destiny content, Forsaken is peak Gaming content!
Ikr ? I Hope bungie realises that the little details and passion that they put into foursaken was every gamer's dream coming true, the best DLC that destiny has ever had to this day.
I still think that the crew working on beyond light was a smaller one and that the rest of the employees at bungie were trying to make witch queen, lightfall and the unnamed dlc after lightfall just as good if not better than forsaken
I agree, forsaken not only was fantastic, but it was exactly what Destiny needed. Also remember that Forsaken had Activision money/backing/teams helping with it. With bungie going solo, who knows when that's possible.
@@fatebringertimelost747 I mean it's likely to happen now cause they hired more people.
@@samvakarian they hired more people so it increases the possibility
I bet even if the final wish was found by random guessing into the wall, there may be some requirement or time gated by bungie until the player base truly found it. I would love it if it just said something like “you are not worthy of this wish” then crash your game.
I typed in the 15th wish and got blue screened 😂😂 I’d die seeing that happen to someone
The wall have 20 options to put around 320 different combinations wich you need like a minute to try all of them or more, it will take days or inclusive months without exiting the game to solve it
@@CapCody hey man. The math is wrong / not complete. There are 17 symbols (no symbol included) there are 20 places where you can put in the symbols. So that's mean 17^20. = 4 064 231 406 647 572 522 401 601 combinations. So it's impossible to try them out.
@@discokieken212 not for a robot tho ... 🤔 we should hire a tech nerd to solve it for the community using a robot or sum
@@drifter3983 even if we assume that you can test one combination a second, it'd still take 1.28790472 × 10^17 years to check them all, while the age of our universe is 1.38 x 10^10
15:26 "The sadists over at Bungie."
BRUH.
And now here it is
and as I rewatch this video wish 15 has been uncovered sorta.
34:47 “Its this many years” 🤣🤣🤣
This would be a good season next season. Tie into savathun and be relevant
I hope savathaun's song will still be the title music!
@@dascreeb5205 it was already the main track in shadowkeep
@@dascreeb5205 yeah that’s been done before bud, it was for an entire year
Savathuns wish.
Arent they talking about vaulting forsaken content when witch queen comes out?
If thats true then the 15th wish wouldnt have anything to do with it.
We should know whats getting vaulted in the coming months so thatll tell us if that theory is worth thinking about.
What an amazing video!. I would not have had the patience to edit this. I commend you for your hard work and dedication.
@Deklan Duboise nah. Evan has a patreon where you can get everything early.
Years later, season 23, Season of the Wish: wouldnt you like to know the answer? (this is still around 20 days before the launch of Season of the Wish. I love how a game's lore keeps going like this, doing callbacks to the past and being the keys to save the day.)
This was absolutely fantastic! Bravo bravo!
I'm happy to of been part of this process and watch things unravel. From the anticipation to raid day, to attempting world's first, to giving up and watching redeem rip out the heart of riven. Such great memories! Can't wait for the witch queen and the 15th wish! Great content 👍
Just get dream to put a random code in the wall, he'll get the 15th wish first try with his luck
Who's dream?
@@jonnybro7676 minecraft youtuber lmao
Unfortunately he accidentally turned on his cheats that gives him exotics from the chests
"ugh yeah i cheated, bohoo!"
@@adamtauh oh okay
This video was a great experience. The way you included other content creators was a surprise to me and I thought that it fit the video perfectly. Keep up the good work. :)
Just imagine if 15th wish is a choice: to bring Cayde back or lift the Curse.
nah, crow better anyways
Cayde being dead does more for the story than he ever did alive though, so nah.
I would pick “lift the curse” so fast.
I miss Cayde us hunter still have no vanguard
A hard choice, but I'd lift the curse
15th wish to restore teh traveler after its destroyed during lightfall!! Im calling it! Its my hypothesis.
Is it just me or does Evan sound like he's depressed or sleep deprived
I think the audio for this was recorded so long ago before he perfected the "TH-camr voice"
Was going to say the same thing does not sound he's normal persona loud and happy 😂
When he said, "Can't it be both?", could there be something in Last Exit, to do with the Last Wish code?
Thta it is real, but is also part of Dstiny's biggest Troll?
Highly doubtful since those are apart from each other. But possibly the same puzzle to crack the code.
So happy to have been able to help on this masterpiece!
I've always maintained, especially with Quria being the final boss of Season 14, that Wish 15 is relevant to Season 15, where we take the fight to Savathun and use the Wish to break the Curse on the Dreaming City.
This is especially relevant because, and please tell me if I'm wrong, Quria is the one powering the three week loop on the Dreaming City. If anything, the Curse loop on the Dreaming City was Quria's testbed for the Endless Night on the Last City. Proof of concept that the Taken Vex Mind was able to sustain a Simulation in real-time on a long-term basis.
The real 15th wish was the friends we made along the way.
Omfg 💀 if bungie pulls some shit like that I'm throwing my xbox out my window
Now This video needs a part 2
The 15th wish is the raid itself, or Riven’s Wish. Hence the name “Last Wish”.
Ooooooh I like this one, probably true
But there is literally a triumph for 15 wishes
@@bobbyhill2951 this is a commonly repeated myth that has no proof. In the API there is no 15th wish triumph right now.
@@javiermendez9880 go on light.gg there is literally a 15 wish triumph
@@bobbyhill2951 probably just a big Bungie troll. As mentioned in the video, it doesn’t have any code, thus doesn’t exist. Also, the name. Last Wish. The reason it’s in light.gg is because it is a triumph in game. You can see it. It’s just not achievable
*Destiny* *players* :
so the next season will be season 15 could that be a coincidence?
Your comment has 15 likes as of right now. Explain.
sus
ironically enough, season 15 has been rumored to go back to the dreaming city
There are no coincidences
They have to conclude the dreaming city soon? So this might not be far off
Is it wrong to say that since quria is behind the dreaming city cycle when we deal with her later this season to look for any plates there?
I thought Savathun was behind it
@@mangocad189 she is in control of quria yes but quria is ultimately responsible for the cycle itself much like the endless night and how Mithrax says that the only way to break its cycle is by destroying quria
@@mangocad189 savathuns controls quria but quria is the one making the cycle itself under savathuns command essentially
@@imsofargone4126 ah ok
Since Quria is basically a big Hydra, I'd laugh if Wish 15 is on its chassis.
Dude thank you so much for spending the time to make this video like this is truly epic I love listening to the story and being part of it again just so nostalgic and just really really good thank you. ❤️
I absolutely love that you collaborated with all those other Destiny TH-cam creators. Please consider doing this more often. My favorite though was Marco reading numbers.
Man…I’ve never even done The Last Wish raid…I need to LFG that shiz!
Good luck
U absolutley have to do this raid. No cap. Now
Same
Did it once but I was so carried byt the guys I didn't learn anything hahahah
Ooof good luck lol
I hope The Witch Queen DLC gives the Dreaming City some form of closure, either to its secrets, curse or anything really. Just not DCV kind of closure.
The 15th wish will be discovered when I decide to do Riven legit.
It took 5 YEARS FOR THIS TO BE ANSWERED, FIVE YEARS GAD DAMMIT, I really hope its even remotely worth it.
Old video, I know. And I doubt anyone will necessarily see this comment, but I had a thought. Since the release of the Witch Queen, Bungie actively decided NOT to sunset to Dreaming City along with the Tangle Shore, meaning that the Last Wish is still accessible even to this day. With the Season of the Haunted, we find ourselves back in the Leviathan, the first raid in Destiny 2 history, and with promise of another Destiny 1 raid returning next season. Perhaps in the following season, or even in the returning raid, we will have an activity to do regarding a change of form within the Last Wish. My bet is that the returning raid will be King's Fall, and perhaps with a Touch of Malice in hand, a return to the Dreaming City is in order. After all, it is Oryx that took Riven in the first place, and Savathûn that then superceded command over her after Oryx's death. I wouldn't personally even know where to begin looking, but as you mentioned in the conclusion, I believe Bungie knows that we will never be satisfied without a concrete 15th wish to enter into the wall.
I think the last wish will be only accessible in season 136
This video is amazing and I'll admit, Danny did a really good job at editing this video.
Next season is gonna be about the wish I GUARANTEE IT
Well a pyramid was spotted in season of the hunt cutscene, so I hope so.
It’s nearly gaurenteed, we saw Pyramids in hunt trailer, there’s 15 wishes, next season is season 15, SPOILERS: we know it’s about Mara Sov coming back and Savathun needing us and taken. While this season we finally get to meet Quria, the Taken Vex mind that literally created the the curse cycle.
@@Solikyre , we met quira this season actually, when Mithraax was pulling you out a massive green/black vex mind appears at the last moment, also quira talks to you via the radar in corrupted missions
Hope you're right, Andrew
or maybe we remove Savathun's worm so she can free Osiris
Since Quria is behind the Endless night of the Last City, if we take her out next week then that could lead to affecting the Dreaming City and finally fixing it. It could also lead to Mara returning and having a moment with Crow meeting her. I’m just making an guess though but sounds right story-wise.
you were right about mara coming back and seeing crow again, but i think we all saw that coming. still great guess way back then.
@@tomiokasam2242 thanks
who would've guessed the pattern for the 15h wish would be on Savathuns Wing
I just realized Eris Morn at the end of the Taken king mentioned "her plan" and the crystal Oryx left behind being part of it... She wasn't talking about Mara, but Savathun...
When Mara Sov comes back,, she’ll have the 15th wish to lift the curse.
Taken king and forsaken were some of the most fun and best memories I’ve had in destiny, especially forsaken, I can proudly say I ran all legit rivens until I got my rivensbane
I think the last wish is just an ace up their sleeve for the plot
Bruh. Evan, ofc you launch the video when I’m out of town without my phone. I will enjoy watching this!
I had a theory at the time: If you manipulate the camera in certain ways, you can see inside of NPC models. Back when Mara's throne room would appear every 3rd week, I kept looking inside her head. I really wish that turned out to be true, but I never saw anything.
This was such a good video. Well worth the wait (and me forking over 10 dollars just to watch it slightly earlier.)
How
@@samhank Patreon.
My prediction is that the 15th wish is for Mara Sov to come back at the end of Season 15. However the trick to this one (because all riven wishes have tricks) is that somehow it will destroy the dreaming city, ending Season 15 and bringing in the Witch Queen expansion by sunsetting Forsaken content.
Yeah she'll let in the tetrahedron ships which we can see in the season of the hunt trailer. We see pyramid scales.
@@smallen6872 or the wish's words involve "empower the queen" or something of the sort, leading both to Mara Sov coming back and Savathun (the other queen) becoming more powerful leading to the events of the Witch Queen expansion.
Why would you want forsaken to be deleted?
Woa, i think you do have a point. :)
It would tie up the narative perfectly, the wish could be "Bring back Mara, to end the curse". And it destroys the deaming city in the progress, beacuse it ended the curse forever.....
Then it gets into the DCV
You're genius
@@gsc8713 i dont want it but it will probably happen going off of bungie's current model of sunsetting. y1 content sunset with beyond light, y2 with Witch Queen, etc.
Imagine, just hear me out, what if the 15th wish is hidden in d1 imagine how crazy that would be
It’s hidden somewhere on the dreadnaught 🤥
The community would probably break, and by break, I mean DESTROY it's mind.
I was actually thinking that same thing as I listened.
I'm finally getting around to watching this just now. I feel like wish 15 hype is definitely going to come back if it's not here already
I don't believe I've seen many of your videos, much to my loss.
This is by far one of the most intricately edited videos I have ever seen, and the effort shows without fail.
Absolutely brilliant video!
this has gotta be the most intense destiny 2 documentary ever made....
Theory: when you finish the vex catalyst quest after killing a lot of oracles a portal opens that you can see through. Maybe the final wish can be seen in there?
That’s an Easter egg from the old whisper of the worm mission… in that mission you can trigger oracles from vog to spawn for a secret chest and there’s a portal where you stand… you can look through the portal and see the vault of glass jumping puzzle ( where you finish the catalyst) on the other side
@@akanji8285 he's obviously a new light getting into Evans video
Hopefully he'll find mynameisbyf too
@@Spartan-sz7km yea I’m not trying to call him out just tell him how it is
I've always thought that the Last Wish itself was the 15th wish, at least going off that ending cutscene you get for completing the raid.
Riven grants wishes, even grants us wishes, so it's fitting that she'd grant her own "last wish"
Man, there will never be a time like there was with Last Wish. I loved every single moment that season. I miss it so much and wish I could go back.
The 15th wish has finally be found
In any case, "15th Wish" could be a great name for a Progressive Metal band.
What if the oracles in last wish wasn’t an accident? Let me explain, having the sound of the oracles in last wish wouldn’t make any sense as they were in destiny because of whisper but it wouldn’t be included into last wish by accident just because of that. What if it was meant to link us to the vault of glass? My theory is sometime this season we will get the wish, either that or next season sometime. But this season has a lot of involvement with Savathun because of quaria the taken mind, or it may even have a involvement with the vault of glass itself in the current or “master” version which may be a taken version like the corrupted versions of the expunge missions
As for the Oracle in in the Dreaming City, it could literally be a bug. The game is accessing the wrong memory location of a sound.
@@kidoliva that is quite likely my point was that it’s in two separate files (at least that’d be my guess) so it’s not too likely that two different audio files from different game/dlc files would cross over. Now it was likely a bug but I’m wondering if it wasn’t semi intentional at least to some extent
It might have been a bug. But, we do know that quoria manages the dreaming city curse for savathun. We are killing or capturing her this season.
Vault came back this season.
Fun coincidence? Maybe.
Do i expect the 15th wish to be revealed after we kill Quoria anyway? Very much yes.
The oracles were definitely not a bug. When we first heard them, it was at the beginning of the raid, hitting the first load zone if I’m not mistaken(I could be, it’s been awhile). But later on in that season, you could start hearing the oracles in queens walk when you’re were inside of the heart. Idk if it’s still there, haven’t done LW in months
I think they could have been working on vog since then and accidentally put it in
It was always weird because we knew what the 15th wish did but it wasn't in the game or any of the trailers like the one on the shield. If anyone doesn't know it was supposed to give you voice lines through the raid like failsafe and the drifter, but instead they were from shaxx. A nod to the helmet staying on 😏
Bungie pulled the triggers, people.
It's happening.