So I played SONIC CHRONICLES: THE DARK BROTHERHOOD For The First TIme...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2022
- Continuing my Sonic pilgrimage, I moved along to a game that (Shadow aside) has my name written all over it. Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood is a turn based RPG featuring a story that has little to do with Eggman. Even better, it was made by the king of RPGs in their prime: BioWare. What could go wrong?!
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i completed this game about 70 times as a kid and was completely unaware it was so hated until i got access to the internet
also the booklet says the game is non canon
It's not that hated, it got fairly decent review scores when it came out, it's just wet tampons like the guy in this video that like to make crappy reviews for clicks
It really stinks that's the case if you ask me.
I honestly enjoyed it. And still do.
Same I loved it so much
If you wish this game got the sequel it deserved (Even if this game was not fully complete) then please feel free to let Ken Penders know about it. Oh and have fun going down THAT rabbit hole 😂
What's this about your 4skin
The story behind the scenes, and how it set the stage for the end of the long running Sonic comics by Archie is very interesting.
It would have been cool to see this game get a sequel that improved the flaws of the first
if ken penders wasn't so butthurt we could have probably gotten a sequel to dark brotherhood by now i reckon
@@EBlade3529😊
This game is so nostalgic to me.
This game at it's core. Has(yes has) ALOT of potential. The touch based attacks really hurt it. Especially if your screen was really old and had dead spots. 😂
It's not horrible.
I liked the touchscreen prompts 😅
>It's not horrible
cope
It IS horrible. And it DID have potential. Both can be true.
This game is so nostalgic to me I honestly enjoy playing it even tho I do acknowledge all its flaws 💀
That’s okay everyone’s allowed and should have different opinions and hey I’m glad someone could find enjoyment in this game
Me too. I loved it when i was younger. It's really a shame it didn't sell well. Would love a reboot.
@@brandonscott3423 Imagine being hapoy that some nostalgic idiot likes a failed game.
You should look into _why_ Sonic Chronicles never got a sequel. _Hoo boy_ is that a rabbit-hole.
People tend to write this game off as just "another terrible Sonic game" but it's nice to see someone give it a fair shake. Nice vid dude.
This is definitely the Sonic Chronicles game of all time.
Out of all the sonic games, this is one of them
It's definitely not a perfect game, but it's by far the best official Sonic the Hedgehog RPG to date.
This is a fact.
For now.
Well you COULD call Sonic Battle GBA an RPG because of how you collect cards and level up Emeral and if that’s an accepted definition then that would be the best Sonic RPG.
@@-my4skinwastakeninasickjew426 It's primarily a fighting game. It has RPG elements like most Sonic games but it is still primarily a fighting game.
Isn't it also the only official Sonic the Hedgehog RPG?
@@GameAlicornLuna Yeah. That's the punchline.
I always liked the cover art of this game
Fun fact: some of the music was supposed to be classic sonic songs, but they used downloaded midi from the internet 💀 you can barely recognize the final boss theme of S3&K or diamond dust from Sonic 3d blast
Love this channel Matty! Keep up the great work man!
I love this channel man! Just straight up good content thanks for all you do big dawg!
You're one of my favorite TH-camrs, keep up the great work dude
When Forces was announced, i thought it was a Chronicles' sequel
I had no idea this game even existed, I like the cover art, think I'm going to get it just because of that, great video!!!!!
Came across this channel about a week ago love the format your videos have with the complete unboxongs and game play. Love all the videos so far
I didn’t know sonic was a member of the dark brotherhood. Maybe that’s why sega makes so many bad sonic games in an attempt to silence the dreaded assassin
Humor me. I'd like a list.
@@joe_kloos8512 to start, sonic free riders, sonic forces, 06, shadow the hedgehog, sonic boom.
@@EmmaxoOCE Good list. Nothing I haven't heard before but facts are facts.
@@joe_kloos8512 Yep. These ones are the ones that typically are not hot takes. Most people can see why those games range from eh to utter shite.
I played the game when I was in middle school and I thought it was pretty awesome. Now as an adult I can see it's major flaws. The game isn't unplayable but it is one of those games that (if you played it as a kid you'll probably respect it)
The ideas of this game were crazy, when I got the game I struggled in the beginning for so long but then eventually learned what to do on my own, really enjoyed it and replayed it multiple times.
I remember enjoying this game back in the day, but I haven't played it in over 13 years so I'd probably hate it now 😂
Honestly, I played it back when I was a kid, while yes, it has flaws, but it still has a special place in my heart today. And I've definitely replayed it in the past years
You poor soul, I wish the first spinoff tried was sonic riders 😭
As someone who grew up playing fan made Sonic RPGs and, ironically, never playing a licensed game in that genre; this game gave me the most average experience I ever had with this series. I beat it twice; once in middle school and again in highschool. I've attempted a third try two years ago and stopped sometime after failing to kill some hawks. I haven't played it since.
I played this game for the first time last year or maybe a few months ago and I had alot of fun. And I laughed my butt off on how easy the game was when I got the never miss chao for Cream cause at that point I just spammed everyone's combination attacks then Cream's refresh
To my understanding the real reason there is no sequel is that the guy who used to write the Knuckles comic tried to sue. See Knuckle also had a sister in the comics series. he also tried suing the movie anything with knuckles family though The Knuckle clan is a part of the video games
That sucks...
Frontiers seems like it'll have more RPG elements like skills trees. Could be the start of something if the game turns out okay
I’m a bit dissapointed Sonic has been turning away from being a platformer since Secret Rings. 06 felt like the last TRUE 3D platformer from Sonic Team but they got scared of the reception so removed everything that made Sonic, well Sonic.
thats called action rpg not turn based rpg
I love this game bro. One of my favorite sonic games
I think one of the biggest issues when it came to BioWare's writing on Sonic Chronicles is that while BioWare was in its peak during the making of this game, Sega was in its lowest point and very heavy on keeping the characters to being.. just them.
I have a feeling if this game wasn't limited to DS, BioWare probably could have done some magic with this game. Although when EA buys them out was also in the middle of development in this game.. well.. yeah.
One of the few sonic games i did not finish but does give me nostalgia for sure!
If someday you're done with all (or most) Sonic games , i would love to see you ranking all of them from worst to best.
I like this game, its good in my opinion
You should cover the first 2-3 Paper Mario games and Bug Fables
Absolutely. Bug Fables deserves more attention
Yo Bioware was one of the favorite devs so I was so excited for this game when I learned they were making it. It could have been SOOO good
I loved this game when I was little, and still love it
I saw this at a second hand electronics and collectible store. It was Bioware so I was intrigued. They want 60$ for it though, so I passed. I still kinda regret passing it up cause I haven’t seen it since.
Edit after watching video: I don’t regret it anymore.
It’s like 5 dollars at any game exchange
If you enjoy sonic I would give it a try
@@dantemitsoyu977 That place wanted 60$, so nah. Maybe for 5$ or even 20$, but I haven’t seen it anywhere since and I frequent a couple across Phoenix.
Hope you played this one muted. It’s one of the very rare times that a sonic games has an objectively awful soundtrack. It’s story elements and respect for the series lore/cast helped me get through it years ago.
Soundtrack was fire to my 10 year old self
You have the OG TWEWY?! Cherish that like gold! The original Nintendo DS copies are very hard to find now
Since you played the Sonic Adventure games not that long ago and seemed to enjoy them, I'd highly HIGHLY recommend you check out Spark the Electric Jester 3 (and maybe even the entire spark series). It only came out a few days ago on the 14th and it's still on a launch sale until the 21st. Not only is it an amazing Sonic Adventure inspired game, but I think it rivals or even surpasses some of the best Sonic games.
Also, it's basically made by 1 guy (aside from the music), and, after beating it, I think it's just one of the best platformers to come out recently in general.
This game had so much potential.
14 year old me loves this game to death. Really cool to see a video on this!
I used to have this game on my ds it was so fun
I actually know a lot of Sonic fans who LIKE the dark cliffhanger and I imagine Bioware thought they'd get to do a sequel. The 4th wall mess though takes all the seriousness out of it though. So dumb.
I was so disappointed in this game. Not that I hated it but how it had so much potential and many things that were being expanded in the Sonic lore from: the Echidna race being fleshed but with new unique characters, the Gizoid (Emerl) being remembered and mentioned, the Sonic X esque character profiles and one of my most favorite Box Art key arts in the Sonic Franchise.
I laughed hysterically when I saw the TWEWY cart in the box
I loved this game when I was younger
that commercial really unlocked some memories
I love this game, 24 years old and it’s still my favorite game on my 3ds to play. I will never sell or part with it lol
I really enjoyed playing this game.
Loved this game as a kid ❤️
I remember loving this game
So is now the time for some Klonoa Phantasy Reverie series? It's a 2022 collection pair of remakes for two REALLY good platformers from 1997 and 2001 with wonderful characters, story, and music! They both had manuals that helped develop the setting too. It deserves a lot of attention especially with the rise of some previously dead platformer IPs (Such as this one for 14 years) as of late!
love this game
This was one of the few Sonic games I stopped midway through and not bothered finishing... I reached the first planet and didn't have enough experience for Knuckles to advance in the rock planet to break a rock in the way and the thought of grinding in a game like this felt more of a chore than anything else...
The game had a solid idea going on making an RPG since Mario did so various times to critical acclaim, but the touchscreen-only controls, the arbitrary Elite Beat Agents prompts, enemies running away, recycling Sonic X art for the dialog scenes, rushed art for the cutscenes (apparently it's been unearthed some awesome hand-drawn 2D animated cutscenes were gonna be put into the game, but I guess due to the rush to get it done ASAP, made them go with the boring static images in a quasi comic book format), the very obvious placeholder royalty-free sound effects, the music being rushed as Richard Jacques (known for Sonic R) wasn't given enough time to familiarize himself with the DS' music while he supposedly opted to yoink fan-made midi music of past games, the Ken Penders lawsuit with him claiming Bioware "ripped off" his stories and characters from the Archie Comics making the game now non-canon and Shade is the newest "lost" character we may never see again as Sega doesn't want to deal with his crap ever again...
Bioware could've made this all work, but it's clear they were rushed by Sega (as seems to be the usual story with many games) from making this fantastic. I suppose the next best thing is to wait for the inevitable fan game wanting to unofficially pick up where this game left off and/or remake this game into something more palatable.
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I had no clue how horrible the music was as a kid, I found out about the legal problems that led to that among other nonsense that occured during development.
Blame Ken Penders for the unresolved cliffhanger. Sonic games, no matter how trash they are, always sell well and always get a sequel that usually improves upon the previous game but because Penders sued SEGA over the Dark Brotherhood characters, they decide to just cancel the series altogether.
This certainly is a video game
Tbh i loved the game as a kid. And still do
Whilst not an RPG at its core, I am excited to try out Sonic Frontier's combat system which you can upgrade over time. That may be a start towards a more RPG-focused gameplay.
More DS game retrospectives please!
What a banger game
I honestly do like this game though I just view the ending as a return to form for the sonic series aka Eggman is back up to no good again
And that's why you don't end videogames on cliffhangers.
There are so many ideas and concepts in Sonic Chronicles I like, but the actual game leaves much to be desired and the soundtrack is painful. This is a game I'd love to see a remake for one day, to utilize these ideas for a better game with a remade soundtrack, but I'm sure it'll never happen due to the legal baggage that this game's has.
I honestly loved this game as a kid, I still enjoy it
Sonic Chronicles: It Exists!
Still to this day, this game's ending is one of the most bizarre and borderline batsh*t insane thing I've ever experienced.
It was one of my favourite game since as a kid rpg and sonic were my two favourite things sad to see it was actually hated
The move Super Sonic should return, my favorite serious Golden Boy has moves that have appeared once and never again, he also hasn't used the power of the Chaos Emeralds to their fullest.
Of all the sonic games you choosed this
as a little girl playing this game on my ds, I loved it but the only thing annoyed me was the ending
Matty, what is the music on this video?
if you want a real fun rabbithole look into the ken penders thing with this game apparently they "stole" his ideas.
saddly thanks to the ken penders case
Sege will never attempt an RPG with Sonic ever again
21:54 according to some leaks it seems that hardlight is trying to make a mobile sonic RPG game
I've tried playing it before but never got very far, I need to go back and beat it at some point. The thing absolutely hated were the touch-mini games with the powers. Some of the moves would simply do less damage or effect if you didn't get it perfect, but then completely fail and waste your power points if you didn't get the touch QTE's, which would often fail on their own despite doing them right, because touch controls suck and don't always get registered by the game.
Well this gameplay existed
Are you gonna be the GBA game Sonic Adventure 2 Battle?
I don't know why but I thought you already did a review of this game.
I was so hyped for this game at the time. I remember having dreams about it, a lot. Which is pretty weird really.
Shame it kinda sucked.
Sonic Chronicles is kind of an "okay" game to me. Maybe that's me being too generous, however I really enjoy the story / dialogue, and I like the art for the backgrounds, characters, and items and whatnot (which I imagine is what mainly contributed to you dreaming about it). That said, the core gameplay-- although not necessarily _outright awful_ (in my opinion)-- was still incredibly underwhelming and tedious at points. But since the game was one of my first RPGs (and one that so happened to feature some of my favorite characters, too), I was at least able to have fun with it as a lad. Also helps that the game kept me company on many long car trips, so I'll always have fond memories of it and be more forgiving thanks to that.
(There's no forgiving that MIDI soundtrack, though)
Btw, love your reviews
It could have been so much more if the made that follow up game. Thanks Ken Penders 😕
I didn't even know that game exist 😂😂
This game was great
sega says "everything is cannon"
Except this particular sonic game
Feel sorry for Sonic. He just doesn't have the same golden touch as Mario. Super Mario RPG and Mario Superstar Saga were amazing!
It's a shame too since the Sonic series os ripe for an RPG due to focusing more on story and characters than Mario does.
I remember I got this game as a kid, had no idea what was happening, stopped playing 5 minutes later and never played it again.
I don’t really have good memories with this game, the games lack of telling where you need to go always leaves me confused about where to go and frustrated and the map is not helpful, you don’t level up fast enough to where any character is strong enough for certain fights when you get to them and there are so many things you can upgrade when you do level up that it gets confusing on which one to pick, I think letting the player pick what to upgrade Is a cool concept but they just didn’t do it right, what they should have done in my opinion is kinda like what Pokémon does and have natural curves towards different stats depending on which character is leveling up, the game itself isn’t unplayable it’s just not really that fun and not worth your time
for me that I haven´t played ANY Sonic game; are there any good Sonic games ?
which ones would you recommend? name 3 please
Sonic generation
Sonic Mania
Sonic colors
As someone who played this far too many times than I care to mention... why would you do this to yourself?
Can you link the Remixes?
The missing the attacks thing is mind bogglingly bad. You get owned by early enemies way too easy..
Did you get omega?
I wonder if there are any ROM hacks that improve this game
The music is extra bad when you remember this is on the same system as Sonic Rush.
Frieza was dead for like 25 years before he came back. Idk where that came from
Bro why was this game so hard tho
I was so close to finishing this game when i was younger. Finding out the ending now made me sad AND mad. Cliffhangers suck
I really don't understand the complain about the combat system spécial move is pretty op so I thinks the accuracy have to be 100% for tht to be good.
When are you going to play Shadow the Hedgehog?