The Down Side of Being A Public Servant in Pakistan | TCM Explains
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ย. 2023
- With the recent alleged suicide of Bilal Pasha, a serving member in the Pakistan Civil Services, the dark side of bureaucracy has come to light. In this episode, his colleague Hamza Shafqaat talks about the emotional and monetary restraints that individuals holding coveted offices face.
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All these downsides but people still choose to opt for civil service cuz they crave protocol and batti wali gaari. And stop this BS "To Serve the Nation"! Everyone knows authority hai kis k paas, civil servants can't do shit to change anything or create an impact. Just accept that you wanted protocol and showsha...
It's difficult. It's really naive to think youll successfully spark a revolution but one can certainly make some reforms. We need better beaurcrats
@@Drunkfistkid no one can revolutionize this filthy and dead nation!
They opt to gain rishwat, salaries km hain lakin living standard and inky ghr dekhy koi ja k , pori corruption in he logo ki waja se hy. Rishwat dy k jobs lyty hain n then same ko support krty hain ....
😂
Very well said
I successfully cleared the written examination for CSS. However, I opted not to pursue a career in civil services and instead shifted my focus to preparing for the judiciary. After realizing that it wasn't the right fit for me, I transitioned to the tech industry and assumed the role of an AI engineer. My initial employment was with a small startup based in the UAE. One year into my tenure, the company went public, and being one of the early employees, I acquired company shares. Upon the launch of the IPO, I divested my stake, yielding a substantial return. Motivated by this, I decided to venture into entrepreneurship, initiating my own business journey. This led me to engage in trading shares and Forex on a full-time basis, allowing me to lead a tranquil and fulfilling life.
bhai muje b trading karwao and seekhao plz 😢
Perfect approach
apki english dekh ke lag nahi raha apka written clear hua hoga
@@drraja4909 😂😂😂. While you are entitled to your opinion, I possess an academic transcript that serves as tangible evidence. It's a common misconception that proficiency in elaborate vocabulary is synonymous with a command of the English language. I hold a firm belief that such notions are often propagated by individuals who themselves may not have successfully met the requirements for the CSS examination, erroneously assuming that English proficiency alone is the key to success in this domain.
@@drraja4909 His English seem perfectly fine. But being an Expert can you "pin-point" exactly where his sentences are not upto the mark?
All of these stress factors are driven by the purpose of joining bureaucracy. People join civil services because they desire for protocol and authority.
Check and control is mandatory in every system. Bureaucracy seeks colonial era power while times are changing now and bureaucrats have to accept these changes and adapt themselves accordingly. Its been 75 years that British has left sub continent and we are in dire need of sweep constitutional and departmental changes in every institution.
The question is why are we not seeing any changes in these domains?
حیرانگی کی بات ہے چودہ محکمے ان ڈپٹی کمشنر کو چیک کرتے ہیں اور کارکردگی عوام کے سامنے ہے
point😂😂
یہ کام الٹا ہونا چاہیے تھا ۔۔۔
As Hamzah shb mentioned, mostly civil servants were away from families. They lack family support in times of crisis. Crisis is a normal part of a civil bureaucracy. Especially those posted in fields. 2nd biannual visit of a psychiatrist shall be made mandatory
For fucks sake .... You don't have any idea how they loot with both hands and their legs 😂
@@medico5083 The line between right and wrong is always black and white but we all know your kind likes to operate in grey 😁
@@medico5083 Not a PTI fan.
See you got everything wrong in your life even your TH-cam comments.
Your father is very proud of you. 🥱🤪😉
So basically the initial motive is to increase salaries of civil officers. While their inessential spending keep increasing and government keeps on taking loans to fulfill these guzzling bears
how is there spending increasing when they are not are paid sufficiently in the first place. do some research i know many people in my own circle who face the same problems as discussed in the video and the real blame should go to the pollticians
@@yahyakhalid6160 let's just talk about the vehicles and fuel allowances given to these civil servants. They are exploited to its fullest potential. The tax revenue wasted your so called VIP protocols while the street crimes are raising at an alarming rate and the police constables are busy providing protection to these inefficient civil employees.
An easy solution to what they call stress or depression exists that do what the post demands. Work for the betterment of people not that of the colonial mindset which exists in our civil servants' lavish Houses the protocol and the misuse of authority must be stopped by introducing strict mechanisms. What Mr Hamza forgot to tell is that all that 12 check and balance committee is just paperwork, in reality, no such mechanism exists. Otherwise, Pakistan could have been a prosperous nation.
I am government teacher...i just want to teach students wholeheartedly and Alhamdulillah not only students but community also loves me. But the system doesn't accept it...i have always been trapped in inquiries and even now i want to re-sign from this job.
The person who wants to serve public shouldn't be part of public departments.
@@marymalik119 great, you shouldn't resign, our country needs people like you. If you are hardworking and honest, no one can pressurized you. Keep preparing our youth for the greater cause i.e PAKISTAN
@@KhalidKhan-lz3er But i cannot take pressure anymore. I have my son and i want peaceful and healthy life with my son.😓😞
@@marymalik119 this guy basically knows nothing is just provoking people. He has no idea what pressure really is when you are a public servant that's exactly why people get corrupt because of extreme threats in all shapes and forms. It's easy to say just do what the post demands. When demands are from public as a mob or big stakeholders of the country, you'll accept the demands and start doing what everyone else is 'doing'.
The thing these ignorant people needs to realize is that the 'innocent' public is also one of the big 'bullies'. (found out from my own exp.)
are you really dumb which civil servants have lavish houses. the ACs in the countries are still suffering jsut shows how ignorant the public is
no politician can do corruption without the connivance of bureaucrat.
TCM Thank You for highlighting the issue which is dormant
I really appreciate being open about mental health. Never underestimate your mental health and seek help timely.
When Salaries are low, Family life is disturbed, Postings & Transfers is an issue then why People are joining these services.
Because no person joins PAS or Police for the salaries but for other benefits and undocumented corruption
Pakistan me toh jaise middle & lower class ky families ky liye jobs hi jobs hain lol.. obviously kuch toh krna hai
I think family is not issue because unlimited people work out of country and their family is residing in Pak
You should join Bangladesh public service commission. Here public service officers lives like a king 👑... they called them selfs BCS Cader.
Hahaha same in Pakistan. Brother these are most corrupt people
Bilal Pasha is murdered, he was sitting with staff till 11 at night, two days earlier he posted on Fb he is offering coaching course for upcoming jobs, in No way he can b judged under stress
There is difference between suicide declared or suicide proved
A supposedly malfunctioning chain link (non cooperating) in a highly corrupt system is found dead in his room and all cry suicide. May be even the autopsy report says so. But should we believe them? Previously if you are not corrupt, you did not make friends and end up doing your job lonely and retiring on a limited pension. But today, if you are not corrupt you make enemies. A lot of them.
touche
Exactly 💯
So true
I think external check should be imposed on all institutions as internal controls are insufficient for efficiency and effectiveness.
Every job has stress factor. I had gone from a 9-5, better payed job with perks and privilages like free 5 star hotel rooms with free electricity to a underpayed job for experience. They payed me 25k for working 12 hours a day for 7 days a week. We used to work more than 12 hours. I would be the last one to leave the construction site at average of 10 pm everyday if i was lucky. Imagine 9 months, 7 days a week working in harsh conditions, cold or hot, dealing with hundreds of workers and other people everyday. So, kahani ka matlab ye tha ke hamay hamara CM har waqt on edge rakhta tha kabhi bethne nai deta tha laiken ye suicide ka chakar ka socha bhi nai. Its like destroying your akhirah for eternity. Baqi khuda behtar janta he
100% agree gentlemen
Judiciary or Forces say comparison isnt correct.. judiciary or Army ko public money ka responsible nahi banaya jata....isi liye un par wo checks nahi jo aap par hain....but ye baat darust hay keh agar aap Imandaari say kaam karein gay or dictates nahi lein gay to aap ko OHD kar dein gay, transfer kar dein gay or long run mein promote bhe nahi karein gay....
rathore sab jigar ap to topa 1882 parhao hahaah
Shafqat is a humble officer, I know him from very near, he was my teacher in NOA academy Islamabad.
But our Pakistani mentality is killing our society. 1 to 5% are honest person and hamza Shafqat is one of them. But we are destroying our society from gross level due to ill & sick upbringing of our kids whose aim is making money and gaining power.
Most of CSS/PMS officers become very rude and act like God when they are at higher posts. I remember when additional secretary was not processing my legal application of study leave for about 8 days and He returned due to illogical reasons, I was under high stress but he processed when he received a call from reference who was his colleague. So what kind of ethics are these? If I could not have reference then might be I would be unable to process my legal application for months.
soooooo trueeeee.
Thanks for sharing the dark side of civil service, hamara demagh kharab hai jo in seats k pechy bag rahy hoty hai. youth should rethink about it. its not as charming as shown.
The best way to tackle this is to remain connected with Allah❤
stress is on all poor and common Pakistanis not only CSS . ask what is stress from those who are doing suicides now a days because of poverty !
CSP officers have a really sensitive side as well that we find less but is there. The suicides make us think about life and our goals. A person in grade 22 commiting suicide is what makes me wonder if Civil service is not what we believe it is. Really tough jobs. May Allah have mercy on these souls
Govt officers have been given unchecked authority and power and this corrupts them utimately leading to a depress soul which contradicts with their core value system. Most of officers are from middle or lower middle background and cannot adjust in this elite culture which is based on haram earning. Living in such conflicts only leads to moral or mental collapse
One should consider all the facts before applying for a job instead of lamenting after joining it.
if civil servant's salaries are that low then howdo they manage such better life style compared to employees of telecom, software house etc. They do enjoy a lot of amenities cars, security, house(bug one), petrol, free medical for whole family, a lot of funds and land after retirement and good pension... other then that they do enjoy power and aura throughout their service and they use this power to earn(bribe) much more than their salaries even though they don't have much to spend to live a good life as govt is paying for almost everything. No one wants to join civil service or other govt departments to serve the nation but to have power and job security. This is the truth.
sir don't give a example of a bank. A banker is not corrupt, fully know his duties and much pressure is faced by him. Even their half life is spend under the cctv camera. 😂
bhi usay kis na kaha tha ? CSS karo , uthny ka leay kea tha to log utha ray na , uger salry kam ha to tuja ni pata tha
i think this discussion was distraction from the main topic that why they are suiciding. yes there is a psychology factor, but what we lack to see is who is causing it and why is it caused. there are 19 external checks. whether they are valid or not that is another issue, may be one reason of that high number is because a cs officer's duty is that much vulnerable and important. the actual crisis is the commands they are getting from the higher officials which are not syn. this might mean cs officers might be used, blackmailed, threatened, or even forced to abide otherwise the corruption or some other kind of cases would be made against them. and all is that happening because we are not having a stable government who is let to serve for five complete years with the assurity that whatever next gov might come would not dismiss or halt the already operational or undergoing projects. the issue is not that of psychological, the issue is of government instability.
Imagine living in a islamic country but it's full of kufr and munafiqs
All your system designed by Britishers and orders are cominf from america , just grow up there are just circus of words...
Bureaucracy in Pakistan should be dissolved.
Why you didn't mentioned the fault and flaws in civil services structure because of following the Britain Legacy? Which is causing an permanent issue
Geniune Man, God Committed People Donot Fit in this corrupt System... Sham on this system,
many suicides mentioned by the gentleman was not service related but some other personal reasons. however he is absolutely right about poor salaries of CSS officers especially from lower groups like Postal, Information, Cantonment etc and even FBR. The stress is also high compared to private jobs. It is a great achievement to clear CSS but nowadays it is silly to even attempt it as 80k salary will not be sufficient to earn a decent living.
They are earning atleast 2to 3 lacs from start....its no more 80000
@@DrHaseebBhutta not really. its still less then 1 lac. speaking from 1st hand experince.
@@umairsqu even after 150 prcnt executive allowance approved almost 1 year ago??
@@DrHaseebBhutta yes
@@DrHaseebBhutta Salaries are low as hell compared to the amount of insane shit one goes through and I cannot describe the feeling when your office gets 'visited' by a big name bully or his henchmen. It's just awful and add misery to the already poor will power. That's why most succumb to joining those bullies( who are very well supported by the innocent public) who actually never joined services with the intent of corruption. (150% allowance is on basic and I'm pretty sure it's only for a select groups not everyone)
a) PIDE report says that this assumption is false that salaries are low.
b) They get paid for kids education, benevolent fund is kind of insurance. do any other citizen get it?
c) on retirement a plot worth a crore for a meagre amount of 10-12 lacs, do any citizen get it?
d) most join because they want to join the elite of country, marry among them etc, not because of pay.
e) do any civilian get to go to Oxford or Stanford for training?
Civil service is just a good job. If you don’t fit ,don’t take it
One of the best ways to deal Stress is to take proper rest and do exercise.
No switch career or own business starting from very small. Have full knowledge of the career outcome before choosing.
good hamza talking about negative side marks courage
This is irrelevant The Structural system has produced only raj shahi servants only rather then the true qualified builders of nation
In Pakistan jab ak civil servent duty join krta hy us time or jab retire hota hay us time ap uski property ka compersion kren dekh'len Arbo rs ke mehal, 10 gariyan etc, kia koi IT, telecom wly ko apne dekha hy arab Patti Pakistan me jab ke almost every civil servant is billionaire in Pakistan.
How do burocrate can find psychiatrist in city like Jhal Magsi and like ones. I don't find it even in cities like kamber shahdadkot
This incident, I mean departure of Bilal Pasha,must be scrutinized but not like the way 14 departments are scrutinizing Civil servants.😢
Pakistan has the worst working environment. Currently, I am serving in Pakistan Navy and the environment here is like hell. Now people and mostly officers are leaving these jobs due to extreme pressure and stress.
I've seen people that have served in the military branches and it was sooooo unpleasant to even talk about the experience. Just all around awful with awful pay and perks and constant "administrative" harassment at least on non commissioned and civil ranks.
mujhe css k exams dete wkt smjh aya k css krna is mulk mai political power ki ghulami krna hai...
itna mushkil exam dekr bhi aap apni transfer honay se na rok sko.. toh kiya faida...
bhr haal bilal pasha aur dusre jitne bhi civil servant ka aap yhan pe nam le rhy hain unn sb ko krwaya gia hai.. none of them committed suicide..
They would not be corrupted by the system so they commit suicide or murdered
Pakistan mai itne saray checks hain lekin phr bhi Pakistan sb se curropt countries mai se 1 hai whilst eik private idara pakistan mai hote hue bhi taraqi krta hai aur triple salaries walay din raat kaam krte hain jb k eil DCO SSP apne aap ko badshah samajhte hain aur logon k maslay hal krne k bajaye jagirdar, sardar, aur private companies ka sath dete hain. Checks k bawajood ap dekh lein k beaureaucrats k after retirement dubai aur london mai flats, ghr, aur pensions bhi dollars mai. Chand imandar log bilal pasha jese bus is system ki bhook ki nazar hojata hain.
A Mafia is in every public sector and every department that has a very active role in the disruption of running government machinery. If a government employee wants to bring a positive even if he/she is working on an assigned task good, this Mafia always wants to work as their personal Ghulam. How he/she will survive in such an environment where they have come from a poor family and merit but a mafia that is on a higher scale and has held in every single matter.
this culprit mafia is not in the public interest or never wants to bring any positive change in society but wants to create problems in every single matter without any cause.
facing the same issues in a public department.
such a pity and condolence for Sir Bilal Pasha.
jo protocol, paisa , govt cars dc and dpo ko milta hai, woh private sector mein nai hai....
People talking about commission and other things. No, not everyone goes for it.
It's drugs,women,power and having total control over others that make you an idiot. If you have a psychiatrist give you clearance for the job then it's still 50-50 that you will succeed. ACR will also reflect how good you are at your job and transparency in rewards and punishment. If it's that bad don't join, it's all about protocol and control
Privileges vs stress? i guess every time privileges civil serves gets will always win.
Yeah it's very demotivating for young aspirants to be csp's.
No service in the private sector can offer you so much facilities as the officers of Police, PAS and PMS have even in grade 17. Salary is way better than the private sector if we count POL, home and servants rewards etc. There is only one down side and that is you can't speak your heart. This is the only thing that makes one depressed. You need to have an extra ordinary emotional intelligence otherwise this job isn't for you. Authority, wealth and respect. Oor kia chahea bas zuban band huni ki sakhti tang karti ha.
you are absolutely correct about the control of one's emotion for such job
Very correct.
how'd you say with confirmity that he committed suicide?
They r the most incompetent one ; how much they have extracted from pak and damage the departments. Every bureaucrat and army general ll meet u in foreign country
We heard it was a cardiac arrest 😔
Sabaz Number plate and Neeli batti wali gari can make you forget the downsides. People are not fools. The service delivery by these mafias is zero.
Han to telecom mein hi jana tha na, pta lag jata job private sector mein top pey hotey han wo kitney capable hotey han as compared to you, civil servants.
Outcome of Harram Income feeding their minds and souls. Don't blame it to work culture or perks.
He is playing with different stories and trying to make blame of one thing that is pressure or stress faced by a civil servant which can't b denied. However, all mentioned cases r not suicide cases, i believe. He told about a girl from Audit service who was under trainee in academy, did suicide because of cheat by her lover. This was not an official matter even she was nt posted at that time.
May be by blackmailing? Bec there is no Merit who ever is ok to sell bodies get the post.
Senior push them to do cruppet thing. And one who misfit in the group ,they make hell their life
Thats why MoD is best dept❤
har department ka apnay masla hain meray dost
@@MuhammadBilal-ks9neyes i agree .but at keast they honor and stands at back
sab sy phly in deaths py inquiry nh honi chahiye???
sb sy phly fair investigation nh honi chahiye??
k kya ye sab saqai suicides hain ya murder hain??
kbi b clear reports nh ati kbi fair inquiry nh hoti to atleast sb sy phly in cases ki inquiry ti ho na
O bhai tankhuaein kab se kam hain tum se kam to faujioun ki ha
Dono ke paas protocol aur luxury ha jis ke waja se sab se ye depts join kartay hain
Why are you calling it suicide? It could also be murder.
ya tu subha 10 baja bilkul nai ata aur 12 baja chotye bilkul nai karta. aur saat ma rishwat k name taak nai suna enho na. Pakistan ko garaq be nai keya enho na. 1 percent kam be nai karta ya loog bas lakho salary lyata ha aur protocol
This must be investigated..
Wht lead them to suicide..
it is very clear he was murdered, there's no way this is suicide
Bitter reality of our society and life 😪
Mr. Hamza, have you ever thought of stress your occupational group cause amongst other groups and ex-cadre officers? Leave general public aside.
Being a software designer, I was able to purchase 10 marla plot just after 1.5 years of doing freelance work.
Just don’t know why our youngsters are going after govt jobs.
Lazy and don't want to work, they want to sit in high position and get paid
As a freelancer you get paid for hours, but many of govt jobs they dont actually work and they are surprised when they here how much labour is done in private sector
sustainability
@@MMFH445 Now same guys crying that their salaries are not enough in today's inflation.
bhi same here, now i am earing close to 1M/per month as software engineer by doing freelance work, kew ma clear tha muja pasa banna or apps banni, muja ni kese ka uthany or na uthwany, ya CSS waly almost waly hoty pher yad ata CSS kar laty ha taka koy uthany wala ho far roty sallry ni ha lol
Please, ap log hr kisi p haram ka lfz na dagh dia kro... Yes, exceptions are there. But, still there are many honest people in service.
bullshit about the checks...stresses are there...but nowadays, in young csp officers its bcz of child traumas...sexual habits and addictions...im saying it as a psychologist...koi maany ya na maany...
This Hamza guy has at least made 500 crores ehole he was DC Islamabad amd he should stop bullshiting about 15-16 years of service for becoming a DC.
Civil service has one of the fastest promoting rates where you go into BPS 18 just after 05 years of service and can become a DC.
Did he commit suicide ?is it confirmed?
He was murdered. End of discussion.
You are civil servant?
people in this nation and those in comments who say shit about civil servants just sound so brimmed with jealousy to me. They can't become what CSPs r due to laziness and when they fail they put the entire blame on bureaucrats while giving all other segments of society clean chit, just like their favorite politicians, the ones they vote for and who have made Pakistan this way. But they just can't bear the little salaries workers ask for, what they rightly deserve. Allah puche in munafiqon ko!!!
Aur Millions of Rupees ki rishwat hai !!
Hamza i must say your analysis is incomplete and one sided. The comments you made about military is incorrect and out of your ignorance towards the military culture. Moreover you talked about your handicaps only. You never talked about the power perks and authority you enjoy
Sir wo commission jo laitay hoo or tankhuwa sahulat agar ab b kam hai to gand dai dy? Ap theek hongs lakin majority ewww
civil 'servantS' are not committing suicide ... it was just one such incident ... doesn't mean all are committing suicide or all are unhappy or all are corrupt.
There are numerous number of capable hardworking CSS men and women out there doing there best and living a good life as well.
We first of all needs to stop seeing everything with negative prospective .... if officers are having protocol, it's their right, everywhere in the world, the higher the rank the higher the benefits and that's what attracts the talent and generates competition.
ASA Bhai I am sorry for the person but plz don't go for civil service then life is a lot harder for a lot of Pakistani s so plz stop taking orders from higher ups you need to work according to law and make life better for Pakistani s
We believe you have to many privileges
Please check suicide rates in general public
So stop complaining and start working
WHAT A FUNNY TITLE😂😂
After years, I found someone who indirectly exposed the whole system.
Tankhwa kam.hai par haraam full pn hai 😂
Civil servant community is the only community which has to face the wreath of judiciary, politicians, and military establishment simultaneously. While all other institutions are not answerable to any authority except themselves.
Either stop saying you are officers or drop the self made tag to defraud people that you're public servants.
You crave for protocol and everything else that comes along with your job. So randi rona band karo
First time i feel, آپ جھوٹ بھی بولتے ہیں۔۔ یہاں تک کہ آپ میرے ٹیچر بھی ہے۔۔اور اس بات کا مجھے افسوس نہی
شفقت ایک بہت بڑا یوتھیا تھا اور آج بھی اسکا رڈی رونا بنتا ہے
False claims
Bbf
Sir, one thought occurred to me: do they rely on their salary??? really??? 😂🤣😅 Please
You should resign
These all compliances are exist in every organisation mate. You are working nothing new. In this whole world everybody is struggling with their circumstances. Especially there are many Pakistanis working in other countries of world