Star Trek DS9 - Episode 321 - Garak is a very good tailor...
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The background here is that Garak has been exiled for a long time among a people that hate him, and has wanted to return to Cardassia. He's labored for years as a tailor in bitter loneliness, resenting the menial task when in the past he was a powerful man in the Obsidian Order.
So at the beginning of this two-part episode, he takes pleasure in blowing up his own tailor shop as a means of escaping assassination. He and Odo go on a sort of buddy-cop adventure only for the tables to turn and Odo ends up captured and Garak is given the chance to reconcile with his mentor (and secret father) Enabran Tane - head of the Obsidian Order.
Things get tense when Garak is asked by Tane to torture Odo for information about the Founders. There are lots of great moments, but ultimately Garak and Odo escape and return to DS9 as the Dominion wipes out both the Obsidian Order and the Romulan Tal-Shiar.
And so Garak returns to DS9 - to the shop he blew up himself. He will not return to Cardassia. He will remain in exile and disgrace. But at this low point, Odo visits him and extends a rare olive branch...
It's a great moment for both Odo and Garak as characters, and a good example of the interplay and development that made DS9 such a great series among the Star Treks.
Garak in shock and disbelief at the realization that he might have just made a friend.
RUEL I Gonzales no might to it he did.
Or that Odo has decided to keep a closer eye on him
Next thing you know, he might invite Garak to his quarters for dinner
@@geoffwilliams4478 Oh my..
@@BM-yy8dbThat breakfast was meant to be had after a lovely evening ; )
"Do you know what the sad part is, Odo? I'm a very good tailor."
Garak's entire character summed up in one line.
Zulu Romeo The sheer lack of bitterness and complete resignation and irony of his situation makes this scene.
Finally he’s breaking down the barriers and becoming a part of the DS9 family.
I cried a little
and yet I don't think they know who he really is though, meaning that he was an Obsidian Order agent and has a lot of powerful connections
They do since he had the incident with the inpantant.
Absolutely. That phrase could was also a metaphor for his being a good spy. I wished the writer had expanded more on Garak and Odo's friendship after such a strong episode. But I still enjoyed the banter between Garak and Bashir.
I just realized. When Odo suggested that they have breakfast and Garak pointed out that Odo doesn't eat, it was a realization that they both play a part, act like someone they are not.
@@LordBruuh be an awkward chat the following day
Garak: Ah Constable. How are you feeling? Not too sore from all that torture, i trust?
Odo: Garak... I thought we agreed not to discuss that
Garak: oh yes, all hush hush, dont worry. Though perhaps you could help me. And by me, i mean the Cardassian people. I need this message delivered.
Odo: You think you can blackmail me, Garak?
Garak: Oh no, not at all. *gets up* that reminds me, i need to deliver my report to Sisko.
Odo: I thought you already had
Garak: True, but i seemed to have omitted a parts.
Odo *growls* fine. Give me the data rod.
Garak: pleasure doing business with you, Odo.
I respect this comment. I also think the reason for the breakfast is because Odo and Garak now understand each other on an intimate level that neither one can truly share with others. It's like a kind of brotherhood.
@@TheWyldehart Yup, both of them has opened a little door of possible friendship to each other.
Man good spot, never looked at it this way before
I always thought this was a sign of friendship. Similar to how Garak has meals together with Bashir. Odo has no intention of actually having breakfast, but I think he sees Garak as a potential friend.
That line " and the sad part is I'm a very good tailor" you can write essays on that line. So much depth and meaning in everything Garek says. A modern day poet living in a troubled time.
"How pregnant sometimes his replies are." - Polonius, from Hamlet.
Before the junta, the Cardassians were known for art, both fine and literary.
@@argonwheatbelly637 I think that's part of the sticking point. Maybe somewhere deep down, he wishes he was a tailor from the start.
@@austinarnold4460 For me, Garak expesses with this line, that he is very good at something he hates (being a tailor, among other things) but not good at the thing he wants (getting back into his fathers favour; the torturing scene with Odo showed, that we wasnt ready to do what is needed to archieve that ).
Tailoring was Garak's root beer.
Love the way this is shot. He is facing Odo, but facing away from the camera. But with the angle and Odo's reflection in the mirror, gives a different feeling, as though Garak is standing alone and reminiscing, away from it all, not facing who is he or the man he wronged. As he very much is.
My hat is off to Odo. I don't think I could force myself to have a civil conversation with the man who tortured me for hours on end.
This show is performed so much like theatre in the dialogue delivery and scene blocking, and tbh, I think it suits DS9 perfectly (since the character interactions I believe are the most nuanced of any Trek series).
And it helps that some of the cast have theater backgrounds, it makes the scenes even better!
Its definitely a good crew with great chemistry and class.
I have to wonder how much of that is from Avery Brooks. It certainly "feels" different than the other Trek series, even on episodes when they are on Starfleet ships or facilities.
I love how we only see a small reflection of Odo's silhouette during this scene as he and Garak converse and connect. It's a lovely bit of setting that may go unnoticed by those who don't see any significance in it. I love it. it's so different from the artless scene setting that so often takes place in modern movies and television shows. the actors/characters may look at each other, but we only ever see Garak's face and reactions as Odo expresses a subtextual forgiveness, and implies a desire for friendship by inviting the "simple tailor" to share breakfast with him. I love it. It's so sad that it took Gene Roddenberry's death for Star Trek to do a series that showed it's full potential in characters, story, writing, and even effects. DS9 is just that series. every one thereafter had become significantly worse, and all the ones before were not quite as good.
I can't find the clip here on YT but the scene where Garak tortures Odo is one of the few times Garak isn't hiding his true feelings. he desperately wants Odo to say anything so he doesn't have to see Odo in pain anymore. Garak and Odo are my favorite characters, both were written and performed brilliantly!
Here it is: th-cam.com/video/cCc9Q391TV8/w-d-xo.html
I wrote as far back as the 1990s that this is the best shot scene in Trek TV history. I still feel that way. All hail David Livingston. Great character stuff for both Odo and Garak.
I would find it hard to argue with that idea. Nothing immediately comes to mind that could top how they framed the acting and dialogue in this scene.
Hard for me to pick a favorite but David Livingston was an amazing Trek director.
@@Sensorium19 IDK the interrogation of Gul Darhe'el gives it an honest challenge
Someone should just hug Garak. He looks like he needs an army's worth of them.
[Carefully and gently of course, so he doesn't have a claustrophobic panic attack.]
I have wanted to hug him and Odo quite a lot while watching this series!
He will always have Bashir.
I feel like he would stab you in the back out of pure reflex.
I volunteer!
It's nice that in 'the way of the warrior' episode that they actually do eat together
This is a perfect example of continuity - The scene in the Way of the Warrior is designed primarily to set up the background for the upcoming Klingon invasion of Cardassia. But unlike other Star Trek series, the writers would always toss in a small continuity call-back, to show us that Odo's and Garak's relationship with each other had gone from adversarial to a friendly one.
Do you know what the sad part is Odo? I'm a very good tailor
I'm only Now understand the true sorrow of those words the understanding that you may never get what you want most out of life
Just we watch this episode today and with that realization it made me cry a little
I presume you mean he's thinking of the more ordinary life he could have lived. It made me sad too.
Tinker, tailor, soldier, spy
Out of all the Treks this one had the most Character Development. It also had me go from being a "Klingon Guy", to a "Cardassian guy". Garak and Dukat are my two favorite characters in all of the ST Universe.
With you brother. Long Live Cardassia!
Once you go Cardassian, you don't go back.
I loved this two part episode. It's very difficult to write two characters like Garak and Odo interacting and I think they really succeeded. Nothing more need, or could, be said about the quality of acting that Robinson and Auberjonois provided in this series.
The framing of this scene is amazing, from the movement of the camera in the contents of the tailor shop to Garak's reaction, to the blurry image of Odo as Garak looked into a mirror. I'd say that I would miss this show since new content isn't being made, but I probably won't stop watching it and continue to find new things about it to enjoy.
Yes it takes a very special kind of tailor to be able to plant a bomb on a Romulan senator's shuttle
Two of the most intriguing characters in the canon.
This single scene is better than all of discovery combined.
To be fair, Discovery put the bar so low, even the infamous Gorn fight from the original series could top it.
But yes, this scene between Garak an Odo definitely is a great one.
Character build up. One of the reasons why DS9 is one of the best Trek series.
Odo's invitation to Garak to have breakfast is his way of opening a dialog for friendship between them and Garak is Very surprised!
Both Garak and Odo are a very private and closed personalities, so for him to open up that door to Garak is saying a lot but mostly an offer of trust and friendship.
Both men has very few real friends to call their own.
Hands down the best character on the show and one of the best in all of star trek.
Odo doesn’t eat, but that doesn’t mean he won’t sit and talk with Garak. Great scene.
two friends on the other side of war fighting for the same things. I love DS9.
Rest in peace Rene.
The cinematography of this scene is just amazing. One long take where Garak cleans up a mirror damaged by his lies, only to see a dark silhouette of Odo looking back at him. It never cuts to Odo, or even puts him into focus, but just the imagery is strong enough that you get the impression they see each other as a different image of themselves.
I love this scene. There is so much respect between these men and a deep understanding. Adding to it is the cinematography; the way they keep the attention on Garak's expressions while only hearing Odo. It's so well-done and powerful.
I love the fact that these two outsiders became friends.
This is what a lot of new trek just doesn't have any more, just giving time for a scenes to breath, instead of eclectically jumping round from mini plot to mini plot like we have no attention spans
Scenes like this are why DS9 was the best Star Trek ever made.
I love how this scene is shot. We stay on Garak the whole time - we only see Odo via his reflection, and even then it's only a dark, muddled silhouette.
What a tremendous performance.
Garak is the ultimate secret agent. He is Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
Tinker, Tailor , Soldier , Spy.
I wonder if this connection - Odo's need to stand with the Federation against his people, even though he desperately wants to rejoin them, and Garak's decision to not reveal what he's been told and thus regain his own place - is deliberately established to prefigure Garak's later treason on behalf of Starfleet Intelligence. After all, he too ends up fighting against his own people for all that he loves them.
If you torture someone long enough, they will eventually be your friend.
Still true.
Now, there's a Hallmark card that'll never be sold.
Now, how do we convince modern TV directors and producers to make stuff as great as this?
Maybe start by making them more willing to actually listen to the fans without the fear of bombardment and reflexive attacks for being modern...
@@Jokie155 yet if we keep eating the feces they keep serving us, then what incentive do they have to improve?
extending ones hand in friendship.... he now trusts him
Garak only appeared briefly for short scenes, and they were all worth hanging around for.
The scene that let everyone know Garak was now a main character. Easily the most interesting one on DS9.
Garak's arguably my favorite character on DS9!
God I miss this show, such incredible acting and dialogue
There are several. But I think these two were my two favourite DS9 characters. This was a great scene to me from a fabulous two-part episode. Thank you for posting it.
This two-parter was what truly won me over to DS9. My brother had recorded it off the BBC and insisted I watch it. I was hooked and have loved the show ever since
Behold, the kind of shot composition every cinematographer dreams of!
and for good damn reason
Garak is one of my Favorite ST Characters of all time. And I'm not even a Big DS9 guy. More of a TOS guy. But Garak Stands out
I don't think TOS offered any characters as interesting as Garak. Indeed, in TOS the characters themselves weren't as interesting as the interactions and dynamics between them.
Especially considering how "little" screen time Garak got as a "secondary" character in DS9's much larger cast.
Character development on TOS focused on the big three (Kirk, Spock, and McCoy). They didn't do much with secondary characters, like they did in DS-9. There are entire episodes and storylines devoted to Quark. When did a TOS series episode ever focus almost totally on Chekov or nurse Chapel?
Starfleet intelligence would be unstoppable if they had the likes of Garak in their ranks. But his loyalty is with Cardassia...
Sloan: _('Not for long')_
“I thought you didn’t eat.”
“I don’t.”
“…😳”
Yet another wonderful interaction between two immensely interesting characters in a program blessed with many!
Love how this scene was shot, where you only see odo partly via the mirror. just really good set up.
Don't ever be anything like the original Star Trek Kirk Spock McCoy but I have to say DS9 was amazing so well written so well done so many wonderful characters it really was the best of its time.
The cinematography of this scene is quite clever
Best character on the show by a mile.
Garak has to be my favorite character of the show, perhaps of all of Star Trek.
Garak: dangerous ex-spy exiled cardassian full grown man liar of the best kind
me: AWNNNN Look at you Elim! You've just made a friend!
In an era of replicators there would be no need for tailors or barkeeps. But these are welcome additions to the DS9 crew.
you made a friend garak...
Such an amazing scene. Such a beautiful shot. Everything so nuanced.
Too bad there isn't an audio clip of Odo and Elim enjoying a meal. What would they discuss?
They did have an episode later where they had breakfast together. They talked about how Odo was able to fake that he was drinking by shapeshifting a glass and liquid and simply reassimilating as he went.
Star Trek best scene...
Garak was an amazing character, He was completely mercurial morally and ethically giving the writers almost free reign in what they wanted from him during an episode. A villain, a hero? Anything was possible. Definitely one of my favourite characters of all time.
Given how often he refers to himself as just a tailor and then we get to this scene, I always got the impression that it was all he wanted to be and he was trying to convince himself that he really could just be a simple tailor, but he just couldn’t.
How good is this seen? One single camera shot, taking to a reflection of another main character that you can only see in shadow, plus the dialogue is very good, as usual with DS9.
Yet another example of how it's the best series in the franchise.
I really hope they HD remaster it like they have TNG.]
Initially I never really cared for Garak, as a character, in DS9... His entry in those early episodes seemed to only be there to further the 'one-shot' element of the first 2 series.... Before TNG ended and they could really explore the Dominion arc which would be the backbone for the next 5 series.
His nature made no sense, and they never did really explain why he was exiled, rather than just killed for whatever 'crime' he committed...
However.... As his background got delved into, and he as a character became so much more than just an 'Ex-member of the Obsidian Order', it did become apparent how the screenwriters began to enjoy the character as well.
In the end, he not only became a pivotal member of the DS9 'family', but was instrumental in both the war against the Dominion, but also was there liberating Cardassia from Dominion rule...
Oh, and all credit to Andy Robinson for what he brought to the character as well. It's been noted by all involved in DS9 (both in front of, and behind, the camera) that his acting craft, emotional and nuanced, defined how they all either reacted when acting alongside him, and how his developing character was 'written'... Brilliant performances through all seven seasons!
The fact that Odo invited him to spend time with him speaks volumes.
"Anything worth doing is worth doing for money." Rule of Acquisition 13.
When I first watched DS9, I didn't really care for Garak. It's only now, 20 years later, that I really do appreciate the character.
Fun idea Garak trying to explain his world view to Data.
Odo: Right now, Mr. Garak, you are looking at the one being on this station who might possibly show you some compassion...
Just realised that Garak didn't blink at all
@03 ooh just saw Garak likes good ole fashioned Earth Oxford shoes.. Nice 😆
The one thing Garak despises the most is a possibility of families inviting him for dinner. That breakfast offer was bigger kick than a fact he is a good tailor.
Some terrific scenes in this 2-part episode between Garak and Odo. Very sad day with the passing of René Auberjonois. He will be missed.
I guess Garak lives up to the title *Tinker Tailor, Soldier Spy*
And this is when Garak realized that he has friends on the station.
I just read some really horrible hot takes in the comments section. This is not one of them. The events leading up to this were terrible. But these 2 people who have had a mostly adversarial relationship in the past, found some common ground. Both wanting to go home, but at this point neither sees a clear path to that ever being possible.
To be honest, he looks more concerned than anything else in the last bit of the clip.
This is so great that it makes me want to cry about some of the new ST...
You would expect Odo to be more upset that his friend stabbed him in the back and tortured him. Garak sure gets off easy for what he did. Though I suppose he redeems himself later when he singlehandedly saves the Alpha Quadrant.
You know what the sad part is, Odo? I'm a very good gardener...
I Love Odo's invitation to breakfast, accompanying witht he fact het does not eat, A pure ivitation to spend time together as now being friends.
It reminds me of an old joke I know from philosopher Slavoj Zizek:
A man and a woman met at a cafetaria, they flirt, have a good time.
The cafetaria closes and the man asks the woman to walk her home.
The woman appreciates the offer and they walk to the womans house together.
Once there, the woman asks if he would like to stay over for coffee,
The man replies, "I'm very sorry, but I do not like coffee.".
The woman says: "That is no problem, I don't have any.".
Two worst things to Garak happened, he will again have his tailor shop, and people are beginning to call him for meals.
Great description. I was going to ask what happened to Garak's shop. It's been so long since I have been able to watch it. For a moment I thought a Bajoran had bombed it or something for one reason or another.
Know what the sad part is? Odo and Elim made a friend. They don't build too much on it.
When Trek was Trek
Garak is very good at whatever he does that’s the sad part😊
Best series. Best character.
Ds9 is the greatest trek show ever. Should have made movies. It's the only one not on ships. And more stories rolled up into one.
God, I love it.
… they say that the Garak’s small heart grew 3 sizes that day …
Garak: Oh shiet, Odo wants to fuuuuhhhh
I think garak would be good at anything he did. Intelligent, competent people usually are.
An Argyllian massage facility? I bet those have happy endings...
If you pay a little extra..
Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy........Star Trek DS9 style.
The funny thing is - Garak is a war criminal. How many Bajorans has he killed during interrogation? Or interrogated and then led them to execution? Hes never been to trial for his crimes against civilians.
She completely undermines the monarchy and then what?!
She expects the grandsons to carry on with an unworkable system for the next several decades while they have to go through personal hell and are inevitably led to put their lives at risk in the process. Not only that but you still have to fear her disapproval, embarrassment or some kind of punishment for being "unable to succeed" on the totally absurd, unreasonable endeavor.
this is one shot
They don't do shots in tv shows like this anymore.
When he said "I dont", was that an indication that he wasnt going to meet with garak over breakfast?
No, it means he had no intention other than simple friendship.
It's like saying "I'm here to make friends and chew bubblegum...and i'm all out of bubblegum"
I felt it's more of a "I'm watching you, Garak". But you're probably right.
he is a good tailor yet everyone around him is wallowing in the depths of anti-fashion
ES GARACK SOME DO LIKE YOU . SURPRISE.
what a strip club on mane street WHAT!
More like a brothel, but then, Quark already provides that service in the holosuits