BOLTR: Festool Track Saw TS 55
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I've been looking forward to exploring the wonders of this magical German Engineered marvel. So disappointment.
Thanks to the guys that make these vids possible; YOU, the guys that toss a few bucks in the hat. I appreciate sharing a laugh and shop time with you! / ave
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That's the boss's saw,. Makes an appearance in the morning and spends the rest of the year in the truck.
Well some body has got to be out on the road looking at and bidding jobs to keep the crew working. When i was roofing my bosses name was goodhue. Everyone that knows him calls him goodie. On the job we called him go get goodie cause he was always leaving to go get something we needed for the job. You would think after doing it for 30yrs he would know what was needed for every job and when he was short on for consumables. We swore he did it just so he had a reason to get away and smoke joints haha
@@jacksmith2315 your statement clearly points out why you're a follower and not a leader. Every project is different, and there's millions of things that need solving on the spot. It's always easier to spot problems than to solve them. Think about that next time you come yappin
@@MrMike-zb9fr your comment tells me your an insecure cuck.
@@jacksmith2315 he's the boss, he can do whatever he wants
'Its like an onion, you just keep peelin layer after stinking layer until all your left with is tears' I want that on my tombstone
A saying in Chinese that applies perfectly to the German over-engineering :
"Someone taking their pants off to fart".
that was Hilarious🤣
Classic
I just pull them down below my ass a bit
That's a funny, and accurate saying..................and equally funny that it's a Chinese saying. The irony.........
Fucking brilliant! I'm gonna use that.
As a carpenter, I love your carpenter jokes. Several of which have become part of my daily verbal diarrhea .
I am a maintenance tech at my employer. I have repaired three of these, and all three failures were the speed controller. Also it has a dynamic brake to bring it to a quick stop. And it accelerates to set speed rather than an immediate max speed.
"$1000 saw, you'd think it would go to 11". Lol
Autobotsunited lol!!!!
Spinal tap reference
Marshall amps should go to 11 as well, oh wait! :)
The mystery magnet, hallofect pickup, and processor board are designed to help the saw maintain constant rpm under different load conditions!
Hall effect?
Thanks John, said it so i dont have to.
And it does so incredibly well. Giving burn free and tear out free cuts.
I'm glad that you gave Clickspring a highlight. His work is almost beyond incredible, such precision! I've been watching him for years.
This does not affect my life at all. I don't use these tools or need them... and yet I watched the whole video.
lmfao
Haha I know what you mean. I use a lot of tools but the guy could take apart a loaf of bread and I'd still watch it
exactly what I did too.😆
That's very insulting he's not Ricky he's Mr. Lahey/Mustard Tiger.
Frozen vegetable cocks!
"You wanna make some eggs, you gotta crack a few omelettes". Reverse Engineering.
I’ve had one of these for maybe 20+ years still works the same as the day I bought it and I’m a carpenter & Joiner so it’s been used a lot. The fact NOBODY else uses my gear has helped as well lol
Wood is for people that like it when you measure something one day, then it's completely different the next.
Yes I like my wood to expand. ;)
I do actually like that. I think that's one of the many beautiful features of dead tree carcasses.
you can use shrinking to your advantage to get stuff extra tight
just yes
Wood is alive
this is how EVERY professional review should be done! open the damn thing and see what's inside!
thank you for being so through, I'm glad there's someone who takes things seriously before judging a tool.
+ansiaaa Most TH-cam reviewers don't know half as much as this guy. All they know is they got the tool for free, so they better make it sound good.
there's way more to..anything, than just what's inside of them and how it looks on a per part analysis. Of course the parts matter, but implementation and pairings matter too. There's way more to -anything- than just tearing it apparent, assuming how the designers intended it to function, and yelling about individual parts. This is 100% entertaining, but saying this is the ultimate review is no better (worse, even) than complaining about people actually using the product and reviewing it.
** I own zero festools. I don't even own a track saw. This was entertaining as hell, but calling it a professional review is....wrong.
I’ve had this saw for over ten years and have used it constantly, I don’t keep it in sustainer while in transit and gets knocked about all the time. This saw is the best tool I’ve ever owned and it has made me lots of profit.
Why though? They’re not built any better than a hilti or even a Milwaukee. Definitely not the skilsaw. Just not worth it. It’s so silly to blow an extra $500 on a saw.
@@codygooch510 This isn't a circular saw like a skil, it's a track saw for far more precise work with sheet goods or finished work. I think most pros, myself included opt for the Festool is because they're the ones that invented the track saw, I'm certain that the Bosch and DeWalt and what not do the same job for less though. At the end of the day an extra $500 for a tool isn't a heck of a lot if you expect it to last 10 years like ours has
@@codygooch510 10 plus years old I’d say it’s plenty well built
My dewalt nicad was 12yrs old before I retired it last year for now other reason than ‘wanting shiney new stuff’.
A fool and his money !
I have 25 years of design, manufacturing, and marketing experience. Everything from concept to market dealing with and even flying to the factories myself. And I’ll tell you. This guy Pretty much knows his shit. Being able to correctly identify the different materials made me smile as I’m familiar with them as well.
this man needs his own primetime show, love all the integrated wobble shaft stuff, keep it flowing my friend love it !!!! all the other reviewers are as much use as an ejector seat in a helicopter, you really have made my day way better thank you
When a saw costs $1000, I'd like to see more metal and less plastic.
+03chrisv This is my biggest issue with Festool. Overpriced plastic. They have some nice features, but mostly it's things like proprietary plugs and big boxes.
it´s not even 500 bucks on ebay.
plastic is used because it is lighter to carry around. if you use it everyday it is realy nice to have a light weight tool
+Scrap and Machines. how does that matter if its going to brake it can way as much as it has to if its invincible
they dont break. i have personally used festool a lot with my brother who is a carpenter. They dont break!. if they do you get a new for free! So if you have to carry, lets say 5 or 10 different powertools up to the 3 floor everyday it is important that they are not heavy because your body will be able to function a longer time. This is especially important with their hand held drill. 100g less is a big bonus. therefore it is engineered to be as light as possible and still be able to take a lot of abuse. Also plastic can be much stronger than steel per weight. and it is not a cheap material.
The detachable power cord has proven to be a great feature on the job site. Milwaukee tools started this long ago. We would see tools out of service quite often for wires broken just inside the handle. I haven't seen the wire breakage occurring with the twist connect cords. Also we had several different lengths of cords that often came in handy for eliminating the aggravation of using an extension cord. Keeping one spare cord on site was less expensive than breaking the tool down to repair a broken wire. I wish my Skill saw had this feature. It wouldn't still have the same bunged up 28 year old cord. Thank you. I enjoy your videos and commentary.
I had numerous Festool failures, on power cord plug. Both on the cable and on the tool itself. I got short circuit on my sander, due to dust that was conductive. Boat paint sanding that had copper particles in it.
It's refreshing to listen to someone who know's their stuff, review a tool in detail and without the fanboy crap. Keep up the good work and tear down some more scheisse!
This is a fantastic saw. I used one for 5 or 6 years and the only issue was needing to change the blade. I used a couple tracks and regularly made 4'-10' cuts in wood, lexan, plastic, corrugated and diamond plate aluminum. Vac or no vac it was very easy and extremely accurate. It was used at my job in a manufacturing environment. It held up to whatever was needed to be done.
I'm a recent subscriber. why you may ask? well I have no idea what you're talking about half the time, but I don't care. You're one of the most genuine funny people I've ever watched (also canadian) To me, this is just like listing to my dad, or friends while having a beer or smoke while wasting some time. Thanks for hours of well spent time ☺
exactly my thoughts
Steve Osborn Agreed, though I do enjoy learning a thing or two from him. Though half the time with this banter of his, I find it hard to understand if what he says is the name of something, or if that's another one of his slang terms for it. Regardless of that, I am completely with you, this guy is a huge pleasure to watch. Very funny, I find my self laughing at stuff I really can't make a valid judgement on because of the way it goes about it.
Steve Osborn That's pretty much why I subscribed a few months ago, and ever since I've actually learned a lot. Definitely has gotten me more interested in machining and electronics.
Steve Osborn yep...this guy is hilarious and totally out of his tree, but highly knowledgeable on several subjects. Every show is a learning experience although I think there may be a strong risk of picking up his language :)
I watch it because it makes me feel smart..... Lol. :)
Well I've had my T55 for 9 years now, working as a carpenter in Holland where I discovered that everyone has one - really industry standard.
I've been doing everything with it - from hardwood workshop stuff through to heavy site work in the rain and cutting panels for concrete shuttering in the mud. Cutting wood, aluminium, even trees, plastics, roof felt, and other abusive things that really would make Festool hobbyists shed tears of rage.
It looks like a bag of shit and the guide rail is scarred and smashed, but it still works a treat. Its been dropped off tables and out of vans, Unsurprisingly it is no longer cutting at a perfect 90.000 degree angle at the zero, but I always set the blade to correct that anyway. It remains the best tool I ever bought, hands down.
Never had a single problem with it, and in the same time been through three hammer drills, about 4 cordless screwdrivers from Dewalt and Makita, and a succession of vehicles.
It's a beast.
Nick Hobbs . So ? I have a Makita sliding compound chop saw thats twenty years old and I use it hard everyday . Still runs like new ,original brushes . Way better engineered than your t55 plastic/mag cast guber engineered festered . Same price but twice the quality. A recommendation from a dutchman is not worth a plastic clog .
@@brianminghella3312 okay chill out, internet rambo. you are fighting over the quality of your tools with someone never said anything about them.
@@brianminghella3312 he's just answering the question AvE asked what fails on these things? Obviously nothing for this guy
I believe the axial force on that helical gear is actually pulling the assembly inward, towards the bronze bushing. Perhaps that's why they went with a bushing rather than a bearing.
Buddy, you just crack me up! Haven`t enjoyed a product review video like this in years. Looking forward to some more laughs. Keep it up!
It's weird how much hate your videos attract. You're just some dude taking apart tools and giving your opinion on them yet some of these people act like you're insulting their mothers.
it's just cognitive dissonance.
a lot of people buy stuff because... a"pro" told them it's the best thing around...they don't care how it it works, all they care is that it works....and they see in this video that they got screwed... their ego goes on rampage.
fanboys are everywhere...
Pillowtap - I haven't seen any insults. Some folks trying at humor, but no insults Besides he's not giving his opinion - he is stating verifiable facts about the tool that directly support any opinions.
THE SAW IS ONE OF THE BEST , ITS HOW GOOD IT IS IN WHOLE THAT COUNT,
I have this saw. My main use for it, to prefit and bevel the custom stile and rails my business makes. Plus high dollar sheet goods and plastic sheet materials. I’ve had it for 14 yrs.
I love that you gave a solid shout out / plug to Clickspring!
The closest thing to a power tool that I own is a hot glue gun and I just watched a 28 minute video about the innards of a circular saw. I have too much free time...
You're not alone ahah
He's done a hot glue gun review since this one, too. Pretty sure t was Ryobi
I want this guy to have a glossary section on his channel so I can get the definitions of some of the words he uses like boobie jizzler. ha!
You don't need to understand.
It would ruin the effect.
I think he meant Bobby dazzler
Wayne Nineonenine I can take his comments literally but they have other meanings.
Matt de Oliveira
Trust me I understand, some times I sit here and say maybe I need to expand my vocabulary cause I have no clue to what he say at times lol, I will say this I like His channel.
"It feels pretty skoocum..." Wtf... lol
I like to hear how his voice changes when he switches from “Ah hell... this here’s some sorts discombobulator which is for them there....” and then when he’s truly problem solving the parts it’s the more real version of AvE.
The removable plug is actually a GREAT feature. It's designed for use with a dust extractor. In short, if you use a lot of tools with a portable extractor (basically the entire Festool range) then the power cord becomes a nuisance. The solution is to have detachable power cords. You would understand if you used an extractor.
This feature is so handy that lot's of people convert their bosch/makita/etc tracksaws and dust related tools to removable plugs diy style to emulate the Festool system. That's what I did with my Makita range.
Magnets near the brushes (or all arc/plasma creating objects) are used to create a force on a charged plasma (so to steer arc in a specific way, dampen, exhaust arc or like).
Zegarac Robert THIS!
wanted to say the same thing, i learned that while researching arc suppresion on relays
Zegarac Robert yep, you see the same in DC breakers... DC arks don't disipate as easily as AC, so they use magnets to help break the ark.
+Zegarac Robert Wait did you win the know prize? This comment needs more attention, lol. It is very underappreciated.
+ElTurbinado Nope, no award that i am aware of... I mean later in the vid he reveals true purpose of the magnet ring: To sense the rotor speed in conjunction with some hall sensor, to be able to compensate for RPM sag and keep it constant. My claim is valid in some other cases but no this one...
I like how everyone is trying to defend this saw by saying their 20 year old saw is still going strong. Old Milwaukee stuff is still going strong but that doesn't mean their new stuff isn't shit. Get your head out of your ass, guys. It's a load of old poop.
haha, exactly. What's the newest one on here? 5-6 years old. Some of these companies a hell of a lot can change in that time. I walk past the Milwaukee displays now days and just shake my head at all that battery powered garbage. They've fallen a long ways from the company that created the sawzall and holehawg and gave you a proper steel carry box with every tool like the sawzall my dad bought back in 85-86 when I was a wee lad of 2 or 3 years. Thing's outlived him, I'm 33 and it'll probably outlive me. Been used to do everything from rip out a couple kitchens and a bathroom to sectioning the internally collapsed cast iron drain pipes in my basement a couple years ago and it's still on the factory brushes IIRC.
Milwaukee is still one of the best on the market. Their battery powered stuff is unparalleled IMO. I've used every battery powered tool they make damn near and they're awesome! Really....a battery powered angle grinder that you can use for hours????? That's unheard of.
Yea, except makita doesnt last long at all. Milwaukee's battery powered stuff is unparalleled in quality and longevity.
Hell i've been using an old all cast metal skilsaw from 1955...
Jared Lumbert Good one!
When I saw those 2 flat heads go into pry bar mode…I knew that was gunna happen lol
Pause it at 9:25. The dust port is on the left of the screen which means the direction of travel for the saw is left to right in use. The saw teeth cut from the bottom up which means the gear spins counter clockwise in this orientation. This would also mean due to the shape of the gear teeth the axial load would be pulling the gear into the saw and into the face of the lubricated bushing, right? Would that not mean the axial load isn't being applied to the sealed bearing?
I would think that whether it is pushing or pulling, there is still a load being applied, but what do I know.
Was thinking the same think Jay. Lol love your content.
He trashes woodworkers constantly, so i definately wouldn't reference ave for anything important anyway, _just sayin_
@@emostorm7 probably got a sliver as a kid and couldn't get it out!
Does not matter at all. This bronze bushing cannot take any axial load and the ball bearing is not interested, in which direction the axial load is applied. Every bearing design must consider a fixed and a loose bearing so the drive shaft does not get under pressure between two bearings and that is done here. Once they are running and enough lubrication is available, bronze bushings operate virtually wear free, the only problem is the start up phase, where the dynamic lubrication film has to be built up. So from my point of view, that isn't a bad desing at all. the hard to maintain bearing is wear free and the axial froce will keep the whole design under pressure and avoid unneccessary movement of the saw blade.
That's crazy! I have a drawer in my work toolbox that smells like puke and I always wondered, now I know. It's my screwdriver drawer- butyric acid!
I once listened to an episode of the Adam Carolla Show and he mentioned how to decide on contractor services. You take three estimates and choose the mid-priced one. Obviously, that advice is very simplified but after watching you tear-down the Festool, I think that advice applies to power tools as well. Don't go cheap, and don't go expensive. Both extremes appeal to a certain psychological type but don't necessarily provide positive outcomes.
This is the most awesome BOLTR I've seen, and the pre-tear-apart PSA was freakin' awesome.
What does BOLTR mean?
@@engjds “bored of lame tool reviews?”
It’s what he used to name his tear down videos.
@@codygooch510 Thanks man ) only took a year to find out, lazy gits out there wouldnt answer but you did, well done.
For the “discerning” gentleman, which is to say “for the man who has to brag about his stuff, lest he go unnoticed “.
Didn't read all the comments (and didn't watch the video to the end yet), so maybe someone wrote it already: the magnetic ring most likely is part of the tachometer for the speed control. The same as in washing machine motors. It might be that they even use one of the same controller chips, which is nothing more than a simple phase fired controller for mains.
EDIT: Ok, should have watched further. You found it on your own. A thing though: I'm pretty sure this is not a hall effect sensor, but just a simple pickup coil. A hall sensor would need three wires (except if you're doing some special mojo) and would not need to be that bulky and potted. Again, it's the same as on washing machine motors. The controller (which I wouldn't even call a microcontroller, because I don't think it's programmed at all, it's an all hardware control) doesn't even count the pulses. The signal of the tachometer (sine wave) is rectified and smoothed and the voltage you get tells you how fast it is turning.
superdau heh, i just paused to see if anyone commented, so your comment wasn't in vain ;-)
superdau did you get Tetra Elemental from Cactaur?
+AvE
Didn't know that the youtube default avatar was so recognizeable ;) . But now that I look at it, it is becoming rare. I mainly picked an avatar so I would find my own comments easier when scrolling through...
And since I had to pick an image, I picked one that represents the thousands if not tens of thousands of hours I poured into computer games in my life.
+Mike Dawson I can't really remember, but it's totally possible, because I played FFVII in excess. I know I had the gold chocobo, Knights of the Round and Ultima Weapon.
i restore old houses and build custom furniture for a living, and own several festool products, a rotex ro150 gear driven random orbit sander, a domino xl, and a ct36 dust collector. its really interesting how the build quality varies on their tools. I have used the rotex sander to sand several large houses down to bare wood prior to epoxy and paint, through a couple hundred years worth of thick lead paint, and used it to edge and blend on many heart pine floor restoration/refinishing jobs. Its really an exceptional tool, far more powerful than any other random orbit sander i have ever used, and in gear driven mode (rotex) it is almost impossible to really bog it down, even with their 18 grit paper- basically a gravel pad. it also has exceptional dust collection, critical for sanding lead paint, but the way it blows air out the middle and then sucks it up around the edges seems to cool the paper or something because it lasts much longer on the festool compared to other RO sanders i own. FOR THE BAD- the sander probably has several thousand hours of use on it at this point, more than half of that being used by laborers or helpers really pushing to get done and not worrying about burning up the sander. the main problem it has had is the twist lock cords melting where the prongs connect to the tool. I have gone through 6 or 7 cords at this point. i was told by the place i bought the saw that the cords are a wear item and not covered under warranty, and they arent particularly cheap either. Last year the problem got so bad that the plastic where the cord attaches to the saw melted as well, and the sander wouldent turn on, or would cut in and out. my go to lumberyard is now a festool dealer so I took it there, and my lumber rep sent it to festool to have it repaired. they replaced that whole assembly, as well as the brushes, seals for the dust collection, cleaned it out inside, gave me a new cord AND returned mine, and replaced some bearings, ALL FREE OF CHARGE. now that i got it back it has not had any problems with the cord in the last year, so maybe that was a defect from the start. if anyone is interested in how my other festools have held up or my thoughts on them let me know, i need to stop screwing around on youtube and get back to work haha
Thanks man! Good to know!
also i didnt have time to add earlier- my festool ct36 vac/dust collector, while it works amazingly and i have been very pleased with it overall, the rectangular plastic ring around the top that is meant to hold festools systainer boxes broke in half in the front above where the hose attaches. i dont use the systainers so it hasnt been a big problem for me, but it is clearly made of much thinner/weaker plastic than the rest of the vac and several other contractors i know with festool vacs have this piece broken in about the same place. for almost 800 I expected a little more as far at materials honestly. I also have their Domino XL whitch is something only festool makes and an idea they came up with. basically its a horizontal plunge router that oscillates from side to side. I think it cost almost 1400 last year, making it the most expensive handheld tool ive ever owned, and never would have considered buying one had i not used someone elses in the shop for a few weeks. the mortise and tenon joinery that used to take hours can now be done in 30 mins or so, with very simple layout and dead on accuracy. one annoying thing about it though is the adjustments for everything are all metric. not a huge deal and in a perfect world we would just start using the metric system and it could stay the way it is, but for now and in that price range i think it should be in inches. I think festools big advantage is coming up with new concepts first. like with the domino joiner, the tracksaw, gear driven random orbit sander ect. would be nice if they upped their game on some of the plastics though. their dust collection is also great and incorporated well into almost everything they make. just my 2 cents on the whole festool thing.
Ryan Jay Hey. I knew it was a good to work. And the fact that its motor is the strongest part of it makes sense.
By now my best affordable options are the Makita track saw and Makita "cookie" joiner. What do you think?
It's unbelievable how much better their orbital is than every other brand. But it's definitely a luxury.
@@arejay3624 they redid the material makeup of the hose garage in the latest models.
Dude, this is my 2nd video of yours and you’re killing me! We must be of similar vintage. Growing up in the GTA, this has Bob & Doug influence written all over it. I don’t think I’ve identified more with a commentator that this. Keep it up! Awesome job! Keep your stick on the ice!
Find myself watching your videos a second time around, Great Content. Thank you for your time keep up the good work.
this is a fucking good review
I have no doubt that this saw is a wonderful piece of kit to use, but I would expect something a whole lot better built for $1000. As a butcher of tree carcasses, I find this disappointing and hilarious at the same time.
@@rodrigo591ify It's Makita for me every time, they just keep going, perform exactly how you'd expect and need, drills, saws, grinders or whatever- you just can't go wrong with them.
Gregor Kropotkin, Makita builds good tools. If I wasn’t into Milwaukee M18 and M 12 I’d be into the Makita line. I recently invested into the M18 Fuel Gen 3 Hammerdrill, Impact Driver and Hackzall. Very powerful tools. Man they feel good in the hand. A couple of weeks ago I got the Milwaukee M18 Fuel 7 1/4” Dual Bevel Miter Saw. It’s a beautiful tool! They really thought that one out, e.g. dust bag placement, weight (28 lbs.), led enhanced cut line, etc... It’s been fine tuned to work in conjunction with their 5A battery. That’s really why I went Milwaukee vs Makita because of the batteries. Makita uses 2 batteries to Milwaukee’s 1 in their circ saws, Miter saws, etc.
Yay for plastic.....NOT!
never ever saw a festool saw not working anymore. even after 20 years. so it must be enough i think
I'd find it funny if you bought one!
I really enjoy watching your videos. As AvE as well. I find them very informative and educational. I especially enjoy your extended vocabulary! Haha! Keep up the good work. I have certainly learned a lot from you and I want you to know that I appreciate that. Cheers bro!!
This saw is a perfect example of German engineering. It does exactly what it was designed to do perfectly: relieve wood snobs of the heft in their wallets. Remember, German engineered products always do exactly what they were designed for. That 'for' part just isn't always clear up front.
I was watching a knife maker guy the other day and he had a set of hardness scale files, might be a good investment for you when you testing how hard gears are. You could get an actual round about number instead of either hard as shit or not so hard..lol
theClosetgrower420 I believe the technical term for the soft stuff is cheese grade.
samthenerf Literally was about to say that.
theClosetgrower420 But then he'd need a whole lot more words to invent..
samthenerf cheese vs hard as a coffin nail.
tazmun or he could stay on the cheese page and go another step deep, like this one's like hot brie, this ones old cheddar
Fuck me, a grand for a wood eater.......hope that comes with a reach around.......
+Matthew Sykes They really are about $900 more than they are worth. I have a track saw that works perfectly fine and was $300 new, it came with rails and bracing to mount to whatever surface I wanted, and you can put practically any skil type hand saw in it...so you aren't stuck with 1 proprietary motor system.
Rhodesian Reverse one, that is.
I've had one for 8 years. It's good. The jigsaw and routers are good workhorses too.
No bearing problems.
But do you daily it
kevin camacho i do! 6 years on mine 6 days a week . Ive destroyed Milwaukee’s . And its not 1000 saw its 600
5 days a week. Sometimes more. Mostly workshop. Don’t let anyone else use/drop it.
kevin camacho festool are known for their durability on job sites. (Not the plastics and the plug in cords are not great) but In General they last well
3y contactor warranty goes with the price and the 10years of replacement parts. The cord is a good idea it should become standard. Goes with dust collector hose and better for storage.
"watch gladiator videos with you." Hahahhah... I work with wood all the time. Still f-ing hysterical.
I'm so sorry.
i love your puns. reason i subscribed and the reason i keep watching!
Hey, I just used my TS55 to cut some aluminum sheeting, then I blew the chips of und put it back in its nice box ;)
I bought mine as I know a lot of people that used and abused that saw for more than 10 years..
But I think youre right - On a construction site the Festool would stand about 2 hours but I also think thats not the target market for them.
Dont you have the blue Bosch contractor saw? What about taking a look inside it? Might be interesting as Bosch has lost its good name the last years quite a bit.
Btw. while poking fun at germans:
How many germans does it take to change a lightbulb?
- One. We're pretty efficient but are free of humor.
Stefan Gotteswinter The track saws are more for finish carpentry rather than rough carpentry, on This Old House they use them a lot for very precise cuts in the field where youd want to be using a nice table saw instead. *shrug
Stefan Gotteswinter not the target market, but it looks like the target price
Stefan Gotteswinter Stefan, Have you every driven thru the town where AvE claims they manufacture the mag. housing, roll up windows!!
+Stefan Gotteswinter that is why the machines go to repair because people that dont know to use machines like that.
+Stefan Gotteswinter
I'm a tree carcass worker who owns several Bosch tools, and especially recently, I find them to be a lot better than most others. I'll pick up a new Bosch before DeWalt any day. The only exception may be for a Mastercraft Maximum (but that's only for the convenience and fantastic warranty).
Thanks for your review which is your
Favorite full size table
Size and slide compound review
I agree with all the critics (and know some more), except for the plug: having worked as a contractor in companies that had more than one festool product this is actually useful. U could hotswap machines without having a cable mess and they always had spare cables if one went to heaven😂. It came to the point that festool brought out kits to make other products be refitted with their plugs (yes people bought and liked it)
Y'know, this time I didn't learn anything. Which is fairly remarkable, considering how little I used to know about this stuff. After watching a dozen or so of your teardowns, I'm able to identify weakpoints, poor design choices, etc just as fast as you're showing them, and I know the context behind most of why something's good or bad. 6 months ago I wouldn't've been able to do any of that, so, kudos on the educatin'.
Most surprising thing to me isn't that stuff is good or bad quality, high or low prices, good or bad design. It's the inconsistent design choices. All the time we're seeing decisions getting made that don't make sense. If you're going to be cheap, be cheap. If you're going to be quality, be quality. But, why having uber-machined gears and then the wrong bearings and a bushing, why glass-fiber the low temp parts and skimp out on the high temp, why have high temp and low temp wire as part of the same damn circuit? Who makes these decisions and understands less about it than guys who can tear it apart?
Congrats on the Patreon, last time I checked I was happy you hit $200/month. You truly must have the best quality viewership on the Tubes. No one else gets this few of views on their videos yet brings in that much direct support. It's recognition that you're doing something of value that no one else does and the world appreciates it.
I work as carpenter in a contracting firm with around 50 other carpenters. We do everything from small refurbishing to big complexes. The majority of us only use festool machines and let me tell you. Even though there might be some funky looking stuff when you open them up and look inside, the Festool machines and accessories smuthers the competition in real world scenarios and longevity. They will cost you but it is worth every penny!
Been working as a carpenter for a few years now and just like you said, these saws don’t really see heavy use. I used them for on-site repairs almost exclusively, where you make 2-3 cuts in an hour. What’s important is the quality of the cut, and how easy it is to set up. In my experience festool has excellent rails, and the saw has no play on them. I own a makita personally, and the rail is straight up atrocious, a buddy of mine had the same experience. Kinda sad that festool is doing us dirty like this though, I guess I’ll look for a better alternative in the future. Maybe mafell
I guess we got a good one. We blew through several job site saws, at the rate of 1 every one to three years ( 2 Bosch’s, 1 Makita, 2 Dewalt, 1 Milwaukee ). Like many contractors who push their equipment, we just figured it was the cost of out of warrantee “consumables” that were engineered to fail). We are on year 7 with the first Festool now, and no saw problems yet, and it has saved us countless days of clean-up on the indoor renovation work, as the vacuum system actually works as advertised for once. 24 rf homes between 2,200 and 5,500 sq ft, and a few dozen interior renovations and counting.
BTW, the cable is a locking one, which requires some kind of connector that is not the typical plugin connector style. Never had that gear fail, or any of the other items you asked about, but it is just our first Festool. Only issue we have ever had was that we had a vacuum hose get cut, which we taped until Festool sent a replacement (free although it was out of warrantee, and we even told them it was probably from getting dragged over who-knows what for several years).
We just had our second Bosch chop saw die, and are thinking about that Festool one, based on our experience with their track saw. Anybody have any experience with the Festool chop saw? We need to get something by Jan 6th, so I thought I’d ask.
If all the things that you asserted would fail in 5 minutes did fail when used professionally, Festool would be out of business, as a lot of contractors, production furniture makers and others who do serious production work use them now. You should ask their team why’s they did things a particular way, or enlist the services of a professional product engineering firm.
Like I said, it is only a sample size of one for us, so maybe we just got very lucky, but we have pushed it hard as any other saw we’ve had, but it’s the only one that has survived for almost 7 years now- 3-5 times longer than our other CC/TS we’ve used.
Clickspring is a great channel - good on you giving him some recognition
Yeah, I wound up watching this whole video and feeling overcome with fascination. Thanks for putting this up. Thumbs up & a sub!
Now your hooked
“Manipulating dead tree carcasses” lol
Sounds like a felony
For $1000.00 I would expect brushless thanks for the honest review.
But German engineering
does brushless help alot for the plugin tools? im honestly asking not being a jerk. ive heard they save on battery power and i guess the brushes never wear out but replacing brushes isnt really a huge problem for me in general. i mean many of my tools have broken long before the brush wore out.
@@kingofthebums If you're running into the limits of what you can pull from a wall outlet, brushless can get you more mechanical power for the same electrical power, probably around 50% more. Same if, if you're limited by cooling capacity, since that lost power is dissipated as heat.
Usually when you get to a scale for plug in tools where you need more power than a brushed motor can get you from a normal outlet, you're probably looking at stationary tools with induction motors, which can be nearly as efficient as brushless.
@@jasexavier wow! Thank you for the detailed response. I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge with me. I hope it comes through that I'm not being sarcastic or anything. I'm genuinely appreciative.
Aside from what's already been mentioned. A brushless motor would also be smaller and lighter which would both be important in a hand held tool.
The plug is proprietary - and why design something completely new? Because if ever you need another one, you'll have to get it from us - and at whatever price we care to charge.
Mike Collins *cough* apple *cough*.
Richard Decker Indeed! I don't buy Apple either.
Mike Collins- plug works, 3 yrs in and still in good condition.
James Connors Lucky you, but you're missing the point. Out of all the units sold, most will never have a problem with the plug, but those who do will have to get a new one from the makers, and pay the price. Basically, any manufacturer who does this is missing a trick. They may sell more proprietary parts to the few who have a problem with them - eg, cutting the cable with the saw - but there's a limit to what they can charge for a cable. On the other hand, they will definitely sell fewer track saws. They won't sell one to me for a start.
I used to use Festool gear and the plug was really handy. You only needed to have one lead plugged in to the outlet and you can run all your tools off it. Saves having leads all over the shop. In saying that in 3 years I went through 2 of them.
Ok here is my 2c on the festool ts55
I have owned one for about 12 years now and i must say its gotta be one of THE BEST tools that i own, when i hang doors i get them up in 1/5 of the time compared to using a normal circ saw and clamping down a guide and blah blah blah
Scribe a line, place the track on your line and cut it to as accurate as your eye can see
Depth adjustment is skookum as frig, go down to a mm and i see the new one even has a fine tuning adjustment knob, NICE!
And yes, it is one of those tools that only comes out for the high end jobs that i do, some crappy door in a carpark basement isnt going to see it
ALSO the guide rails eliminate splintering which is also important in some jobs especially laminates
AND i have also put it through its paces, 200 boards of plywood with a cut every 15mm and the boards are 2700mm x 1200mm , you do the math? the poor little festool didnt say boo
I also own the Kapex 120 slide compound mitre saw, what a tool, absolute tool pornstar
oh and between my 12 year old ts 55 and workmates 10 year old ts55 that freqeuntly get used almost on a daily basis, none have had a single hiccup
AND AND AND AND
MAY i corrrect you on your little "oh thats no good" bearing whinge on the main output shaft that has the helical gear, if you note the direction of rotation and the direction of the tooth profile there is no axial force on the ball bearing AHA! Festool angineeros 1 - AVE 0 :P
+,j Yep. Our shop experience with them has been similar to yours. This is the difference between reviewing a tool in use and reviewing one in the abstract while tearing it down on the bench. Tools prove themselves (or fail) in real world use - That's what they're designed for.
,j What about this saw make it so much quicker? I've always wanted one but don't have enough need to spend the money.
+durable1988 The main thing is that you get precision close to that of a proper tablesaw (by which I mean a cabinet saw) in a highly portable package.
,j, same experience also. 3x TS55 have survived daily abuse from apprentices to 250lbs gorillas for well over 10 years. The plastic tray insert will crack first, then the cord dies, then the systainer will crack from idiots using it as a chair. Paid for themselved many times over.
Tried the Makita and Dewilt out of interest. Does the job. The Festool simply does it much better. WIth a whole lot less dust in the air.
The dust collection is a cut and above any other brand. Always has been.
If I keep watching your videos I’m going to start talking like you!
Honestly, half of this went over my head... I loved the breakdown.
Lot of fan-girls for both sides in the comments here :)
I don't own a Festool, but I use them all damned day at the shop; as someone who never had to put money down on one, I like them.
Gotta bear in mind what these things are made for: making really accurate, clean, straight cuts where you can't take mohammed to the mountain (table saw). To that end, they cut smoothly & accurately, and they're lighter than most skill saws. Lots of people here don't realise that when you need millimetre-accurate straight cuts on-site or in-situ, a plunge saw on a good rail is the only sensible way. Plenty of things it can't do, but for these jobs, I would take portability and accuracy over a doubled lifespan any day (if it's not my cash.)
I wouldn't worry about the motor casing plastic - I've never once seen anybody put one down on its side. The base plate and low CoG make it just natural to put it down flat.
Biggest points of failure in my experience, believe it or not: the connectors. That stupid bespoke twist-lock cable connector may mean you don't have to crack the case when it gets chewed, but there's a bit of give in the plastic (rubberized?) and once someone dings it out of the socket once, it'll keep popping off. Don't get me started on the hose connector.
The other thing is that stupid thumb-trigger blade lock. The metal latch wears a notch in the plastic until it gets so sensitive you can't touch the handle without it locking off hard. Might be an engineer's wet dream on paper, but it's a nightmare when it wears out.
For all its issues, it stays accurate until long after it needs replacing or tearing down. Couldn't tell you if it's worth the money, but it's great at what it's designed for.
PyroTiger
100% agreed.
Even if this comment is 2 years old: I did use one of those for 5 years 5 times a week, for like 4 hours of actuall cutting and it is great. BUT! The gearing is quite noisy. Guess it will fail.
I’ve used one of these saws 6 days a week for years and I have only had to have new brushes gets used outside in the cold box has held up well
what?
@@jerryc3050 he missed a few important commas
@James Harper bushings? No clue if you mean the carbon brushes you’ll know because the mortar won’t start
Normal review: sponsored by the company and youtuber does some extreme aesthetic wank test that has nothing to do with the actual quality of the tool but looks cool with a nice loud metal soundtrack.
AvE: thorough hands-on approach detailing the manufacturing quality of every individual part and how it relates to the function of the entire product and listing both positives and constructive criticisms
i dont watch your channel frequently. i binge it !
Have had terrific luck with the Festool T-55. The tear-down result is more of a prescription for moderation in tool use than anything. I really enjoy your reviews!
BTW, here on the Convict Isle, Festool is charging AUD $50 for a replacement power cable. Now you know why they have a proprietary plug...
Please tell me what is the standard, non-proprietary equivalent plug that Festool should have used instead.
@@ozrenbalic6051 I've often wondered if an IEC C7 plug could be jammed into the plug-it receptacle on a festool ... must try it one day to satisfy my curiosity (although if it's anything like centrotec then it'll be just ever so slightly different to the popular standard and won't fit). I agree though, there's no standard IEC plug out there that has any sort of bayonet to lock the plug into the socket - and given the extremely high quality of the festool cords I don't find the price to be too eye-watering (pricey yes - but not extortionate).
I have to confess to being an owner of about 8 or 9 Festool machines plus accessories over the last 14 years, many of which I bought second-hand and have also used intensively during different projects, assignments or renovation work. I have never, ever had a problem with any of them nor have I ever regretted buying 'over-engineered' but reliable as well as highly accurate quality tools. They do exactly what they're supposed to do and they do it very well.
Tools like Festool also hold their value better than other brands provided you don't abuse them.
In reference to the criticism on the plug-it cord system, I can speak from experience that this is a well designed feature useful when you're working in combination with (Festool) dust extraction and you need to switch tools. You just disconnect the cord and vacuum hose at the tool and re-connect on the second machine without frigging with another power cable. You just need one power cable either taped or strapped to your vacuum hose and you're good to go.
There's nothing wrong with being critical and knowledgeable, but lacking practical experience certainly affects the usefulness of of said critique.
Yes it's an improper biased review. Comparisons made are way off reality and I know here in Holland USD 400M + Super Yachts are build using Festool tools because these are (and stay) accurate and reliable. You can't compare a NASCAR (Milwaukee, DeWalt) with high precision Formula 1 Tools like Festool. Compare a Festool Jigsaw with any other brand... Try to cut stone with our any dust with any other brand... It's a very corner cut review. Just say I hate European tools and Say Amerika first Hahah just be honest... You get the best warranty deal at Festool way beyond other brands are today... He just hates Germans Hahaha... Wait until you drive a BMW 5 series or Merc... and compare the hightec engineering and quality with any US brand car.
Regarding the helical gear pushing the arbor out, I'm wresting with a T75 saw that seems to have done exactly that! The blade spins away from the housing and the track by approx 3/32", which is a problem (doesn't register properly with the track, doesn't align with the riving knife). Thing is, as i look at your footage, it seems to me that the helix would impose INWARD pressure on the arbor assembly, not outward. I think I'm reading the torque correctly, but please comment if you can.
I was a carpenter for 12 years before coming to the dark side (railroad). I still have a Bosch 7 1/4" circular saw I bought 20 years ago. So 12 years of hard use and another 8 years of occasional use and still going strong. I didn't own one, but I've used the Milwaukee saws and liked them a bunch. If you're starting out here's my recommendations: Circular Saw-Bosch or Milwaukee. Air Nailers- Hitachi, hands down. Drill-Makita. Levels- Stabila or Crick. Power Miter saw- Porter Cable. Jig Saw- Bosch, hands down. Reciprocating saw (Sawzall)- Porter Cable or Milwaukee. I'm not up on the modern jobsite table saws....so you're on your own there. And don't waste your money on some titanium $150 hammer, get yourself a $26 fiberglass Vaughan, they are strong, well balanced and it will last you a lifetime. Keep in mind that precision is sometimes more important than being built like a tank when it comes to carpentry. If you're cutting a piece of custom crown molding that costs 20 bucks a foot, you gotta be dead nuts on! I wish a tool manufacturer would step up to the plate and incorporate both of these concepts into their tools one day.
shanevmax34 I agree with pretty much everything except Porter Cable. Stanley Black and Decker turned PC into a intro to middle of the road to DIY tool brand now
shanevmax34 In October 2004, the Pentair Tools Group-comprising Porter-Cable, Delta Machinery, DeVilbiss Air Power, and others-was purchased by Black & Decker, now Stanley Black & Decker. Porter-Cable is headquartered in Jackson, Tennessee. Manufacturing in the United States has mostly ceased; tools are now made primarily in Mexico and China.. Porter cable was started in my home town of Syracuse NY in 1906 .
Ed Yager I was unaware that Porter Cable joined the conglomerate....much like Remington and the "Freedom Group". Remington firearms are mostly crud now and they're taking down many good names with them, Marlin, DPMS etc..... I'm sorry to hear Porter Cable may be synonymous with "Home owner" grade tools. Right when Festool became available in the States with their astronomical prices, I was a skeptic right from the get go. Finally, good ole AvE proved my doubt. For those kind of prices, those should be repeatable, industrial grade tools. They barely meet contractor demand
shanevmax34
the Bosch you have is far from the bosch you buy now... Even the pro Bosch (blue series) isn't as good as the green consumer grade ten years ago.
Black and Decker is poop too, unless you don't use it often.
***** got a 12v Bosch drill made by the Swiss (1996), funx batteries are 100bucko NiCad that last two years just can't toss or use
I own a boatload of Festool products. I also friggin love this channel. With that being said.... the TS55 is the only tool I have ever had a problem with, and it's either due to the trigger or the brushes. They do have an outstanding policy for fixing tools, and that's built into the price. As for the strange plug, it works exceptionally well because they are interchangeable with other tools. (there are two different gauge cords, but the larger one is backwards compatible). This means 1 cord for many tools. It also works out very well when you use their sleeved extraction hoses that have the cord encased in the sleeve. For woodworking, this sleeve is desirable because the "corrugations" of the hose get caught up on the edges of wood if you're using a sander or something.
Their machining tolerances in general are absolutely outstanding, and why I use festool (I really do have probably $50,000 worth of green stuff) is primarily because of two things: dust collection is absolutely outstanding, and their tools work great as a "system". The track the TS55 runs on can be used for their routers, jigsaws, etc). I used to think the cord interchangeability was stupid, we well as the overpriced cases (Systainers). Years later, those are two of the most important things, especially the Systainers and how they are each perfectly designed for the specific tool, complete with spaces for all the accessories. They stack perfectly, clip together, and protect the tools from the elements well enough. MOST IMPORTANTLY - they have a diagram on each systainer of exactly how the friggin tools and the accessories all fit into it. If it weren't for this diagram, I'd never get some of the tools back in. EVER.
Because everything is so neatly organized, it really does accomplish the Holy Grail of jobsite management - inspiring employees to put things back each time! Holy shit! The lid won't even close if you have the tool and/or accessories stored improperly. I have tried EVERYTHING else, and Festool tools are the only brands that ever get put back where they belong.
I have been using the Bosch track saw for about 2 years. Very pleased with it.
I've been workin with this tool since 1995, several types off course and never had big problems. This is an excellent tool for a woodshop, and not a toy to be tossed around in a junk yard, like a spanner or hammer...
That's fine but it's not even close to worth $1,000. You can get many great saws that will do the same job, and potentially last longer made with better materials. That festool is on par with a lot of prosumer tools taken apart on this channel. It's embarrassing for $1,000
Ha! "Thousand dollar saw, you'd think it would go to 11." I laughed pretty hard at that.
AvE, I am enjoying your videos with a cup of coffee - nice stuff - keep 'em coming.
The reason why Festool makes the base plate from Mg die casting is several-fold:
- weight saving over Al die casting (you really want low weight in a track saw, hence also all those plastiques instead of more substantial components)
- more rigid then Al die casting (you want rigidity in that base plate for precision, as it tracks on those extrusion Al tracks for precise, smooth cuts + you want zero wobble over time - Mg alloy will give you that - hence the use of Mg die casting frames in so many laptops - high strength, thin walls, high rigidity + more)
- heat dissipation (Mg die cast components are superior in heat dissipation characteristics to other materials - the entire baseplate can function as a large heatsink - hence also the use of Mg alloy in electronics as a structural part / heatsink)
Reasons for the details on the inside (ribs):
- structural rigidity both as a finished component and during ejection from the tool during the die cast process (see those round small marks all over the inside - those are the ejector marks from the ejector side of the tool - all nicely connected by strong ribs to keep that part together during ejection)
- ribs on this large a component with that thin walls are designed to help material flow during die casting as well (you want a good, tight crystalline structure not just in the outer perimeter but also in the center of the part)
Reasons for the outside (contact side) details (round dimples and circumference ribbing opposed to the el cheapo device - probably made of stamped metal sheet):
- circular details are most likely from spring package ejectors in the injection side of the die casting tool (with high end die casting tools in automotive and industry you often use not just one single ejector package on the left side but you actually use spring packages in both halves of the tool which are balanced by spring tension to help the component to "leave" the mold and then the actual ejector package does not do the heavy lifting any more and only ejects the casting part)
Advantages:
- MUCH less distortion of the component due to ejection and draft forces
- less down time in the foundry as castings are less likely to stuck and force manual ejection, cleanup and maintenance
- faster cycle time (more castings/h) in a smoother series production run (these tools are running in the 100.000 s of shots for tool life - you see this part is from a fairly old tool already (hence the heat cracking in the injection gate area)
Btw, what I saw from the video, all molded components (plastic injection and die casting) looked high quality - none of the cheap, grafty, edgy and burred stuff you get when you skimp on the tool making and casting process - these are high end molded components - I enjoyed seeing them.
As a disclosure:
I looooove toolmaking (making die casting and plastic injection tools + producing series production components with our small business).
What I love most? Die Casting for life !!!
Oh and C&C Bark is a quality toolmaking + Mg Die Casting business - you don't buy the chintzy stuff from them ;-)
There is where a big part of the money sits with these Festool (Fein, Makita, …) items - quality molded components.
Cheers and looking for more from your channel!
Dirk Steffen
Nice explanation, thanks.
Videos like this keep manufacturers on their toes. Well done
9:52 For some reason I belive you got one of those stickers on your luggage when you on a plane travel.
Hahaha, had a festool ad before this vid, intro guitar riff included.
Ive been a festool man for over 15yrs now and my tools get hammered with use, not hammered as in thrown around.
While i didn't agree with all your opinions I have to say you were fair and seem like you know your stuff.
I think you were spot on with your comments about the build quality and thats what you set out to do.
Things that you speculated might happen due to areas of quality concern, you didn't comment on, in fact you put it for experienced users to give feedback as to whether in fact your concerns were issues .
Very enjoyable review on build quality. I really think their cost relates to the fact that they innovators in their field. Features on other brands seem to be copies of things festool have invented, and implemented years earlier rather than copying someone else. I do a similar thing in my business and charge a premium for it, that my customers are happy to pay too.
Anyway, thumbs up on the review.
Wow....a sensible festool man...congrats sir
Pablo Saavedra c
Pablo Saavedra A
what a great review of a review.
Yeah, I think the overall conclusion is that while it's a very nice saw, it just doesn't set itself apart enough to justify the price. I'm no wood worker, but I can imagine why wood workers would want a festool, just as I want the Bridgeport I'll never have.
And yes, I know this comment is very late, but I obviously don't care xD
Never had one fail. Really cool and accurate saw. Although it lacks some torque. Really great for plywood, mdf etc. Still i think it is not worth 1000$ considering you need all the festool accessories like the rails and vacuum. Nice to see the inside of one.
$1000 for a saw to cut wood is insane. Even nowadays with prices so much higher. There’s just no need when circ saws and skill saws are half the price. If you gotta have a track saw even those from other brands are still much cheaper.
I bought this exact model to facilitate cutting finish plywood on job sites but although the blade seems to be much sharper and longer lasting that any other blade I've used there was one major problem in the design that my son finally fixed with a large sized screw. The little green plastic button on the handle did not unlock the power head from its upright position so that the motor and blade could lower into the material to be cut. We brought the saw back to the dealer who couldn't find anything wrong and back in the shop we took the thing apart and after a little filing still no improvement, so my son took a screw and with a driver drill pushed the screw into the locking mechanism and now - these many years later - the saw plunges as it should. Of course the saw now looks a bit strange but it works - next time I decide to spend nearly a thousand on a track saw I'll buy a different brand.
"mechanical fuse" I can't wait to use that phrase. This is a great channel.
I prefer my lifetime warranty, Skil Saw with the worm drive transmission. Best saw you will ever own, metal, heavy and has pure quality.
Skil mag with worm drive, 100% agree.
Hear hear. My porter cable, also worm drive, is just invincible... going on 12 years now.
the model 77 set the standard due to it's amazing power to rip. In fact it was so phenomenal that the brand name became the name ALL electrical saws were called by. Every hear my "electrical hand saw" anymore? No. No matter what type or brand it is called a Skilsaw. It would seem however that Skil would devote some time into a track saw system either designed for use with the 77 or a table replacement designed for a track. Or better yet go whole hog and design something that would give the competition a run for their money. I cannot imagine sitting on such brand recognition without using at least some of it for R&D.
My boss had one of those. I didnt think they made saw like that anymore. Ill have one soon i believe
Dewalt does a pretty decent worm drive too.
First .... love your videos. On the subject of festool track saws until my recent retirement I was trim / millwork contractor in the commercial / Institutional sector.
What makes this saw so valuable is it can make cuts indistinguishable to a German slider with scoring on both any kind of material virtually dust free. I kid you not when I say this saw will pay for itself on a single week long job just on the dust collection alone. The first one I got paid for itself in a single evning.
I started using them around 2000 and I've never burned one out or had one fail on the job.... what happens to them is break by being dropped or run over by scissor lifts ... otherwise you can't kill them using them as designed. One of my favorite features on them is a fuse that keeps the saw from overheating ... which is why they don't burn out on the job even when ripping miles of 8/4 maple.
I'm still using a 2002 vintage TS 55 in my shop. You have to pay attention to all the wiggly bits and latches otherwise they are trouble free just try not to cut concrete and keep them away from scissor lifts.
Interestingly I sold an older (probably around 2002 vintage) TS55 to a cabinetmaker who was looking for the older model specifically to cut concrete (well, engineered stone countertops). He complained the newer model (the one in this video) tended to give out at the bevel adjustment hinges and he'd had several of them fail that way. I guess the ever downward pressure on prices has forced a few cost-cutting measures in the newer models. I've cut masonry and concrete blocks a fair bit with my (current model) TS55 - but not on a daily basis like that fellow obviously does.
Your channel is awesome! As a product designer i enjoy to see how things are made! Thanks!
I have been renovating and Old Mill for the last 4 years on a very tight budget and have spent a small fortune on replacing tools. I have had the TS 55 REBQ for the last 3 years and yes it cost more up front, but I have hammered it cutting hardwood's and acrylic and WOW its never let me down. I have dropped it many time and on two occasions damaged it. One call to Festool UK, a courier was arranged to pick it up and returned it in a four day turn arround. It came back like brand new both times. Didn't cost me a penny. Overall its been the best value tool I have owned as well as my RO 150 and the customer service is just as I like it Sweet.
thanks for sharing the Clickspring, great channel with great videos.
I watch click spring because his machining is hypnotizing. The dude’s work is great!
My first time watching this channel. I will now re-evaluate my life and become a mechanical engineer!!!
Becoming Canadian is gunna be a little trickier!
Brilliant!
I am not sure he is a real Canadian. I have yet to see his beer fridge although I have seen beer. If he was a real Canadian, he would have a 40 year ungodly inefficient old beer fridge in his basement so he could do his part in bringing down the Canadian electrical grid... Ave?
I have 3 of these saws and 6 of the cordless drills and 3 of the larger routers and 4 of the saber saws. We use these almost daily in aerospace applications cutting phenolic cored carbon fiber and fiber glass. We also do some aluminum core with aluminum skin panels. I have 16 technicians that use these tools and over the last 5 years that we have had them we have had zero failures. I cannot say this with the Bosch, DeWalt, and other branded equipment we have had. I do all the repair of equipment here and these have been rock solid. As far as the power cord goes I have replaced 2 on the Festool tools and both were due to operator error. I have replaced the other branded ones because they simply just wore out and cracked or the boots have broken.
Keeping very high tolerances is a must in out trade and these tools perform right every single time. Yes they are stupid money. But I after they came in and demonstrated them to us and showed us the repeatability I'm not sure my boss would have it any other way.
Finally the dust from the products we work with can be very hazardous. I have never seen any tool whose dust collection ability is anywhere close to these. We were able to go from full respirators while working to the simple N95 paper masks. Saving us almost $3000 a year on filters for the respirators.
I have not had to open any of these tools and was glad to see your video. Great job.
Michael Meisman your tools are lasting because most of what you are cutting puts less stress on the units then say wood working carbon fiber and aluminum cut easily compared to some woods
Yep, notch about 30 pressure treated 6x6's with one.
that would be a bad use for this tool. I have cut hundreds of 2X8, 10 and 12, hard rock Maple with it. Does that count?
your boss should try mafell one day ...dust collection is way better than festool ...
I've had mine for 10+ years and I've used the heck out of it, never missed a beat, it has paid for itself many times over.
It is good to see new tracksaws on the market, the competition will make things better for all of us.
Domo
I actually worked in a granite shop that we used one to dry cut 1.25" slab faces and sink cutouts. I used it for 4 years and it never failed, maybe it was just a fluke saw but years of "hot suppers" and always verked.
I had envy for the plug in power. It is great for a combined overhead extraction and power harness. So I fitted my own (Bulgin buccaneer) plug and socket to my DeWalt. So good I fitted them to all my mains power tools.
Out of nowhere: CLICKSPRING! Yes, that dude is awesome. Your videos are as well.