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Repeat Offender Did I say it could get into a tighter space, or in any other way compare it to a Carbon Cub? No? I didn’t think so. So... I don’t understand YOUR reference.
Well it weighs in at 3200 lbs and he only had it flying a week so their still learning speeds. Who can afford it? The guy that built it that's who, oh and its over 1 million btw. Take a cub to 25000 and cruise at 180kts...wait you cant!
The machines are impressive! More impressive is the way you guys worked together in spacing, control and professionalism! Nice job and a great show promoting backwoods flying done right.
Correct, I am subscribed and his channel is really pro. For an enthusiast like me it provides the perfect insight from the real pilot's view. Best regards to ya all from South Africa, and thanks for the vlog feed over the pond. Duncan Craig
He blew his engine a couple of months ago and only has a borrowed engine with much lower hp at the moment. I think we should start a gofundme to buy him a new engine!
Basic specs on Draco. Around 700+ HP engine. ALL items for lift and direction maxxed out which gives it around 35 stall speed. 737 passenger aircraft lighting put on that little plane in front and back. And he estimates 3000+ hours building and 1 million spent.
MallardDuck Aviation I bolted a bunch of traffic signs for them on Sunday before it started. I was camped out by the ripple road exit just off of Stitts Rd. --- the south end.
Toady , I think there is a ton of skill and craftsmanship in that aircraft, no doubt about it. The skills to be able to come up with the engineering are obvious too. I love what I’v seen in the way of innovations to Draco but it still takes money and lots of it. Not for one minute trying to take away from the idea, the design and the skills to do what has been done.
Yes...Draco Wilga really is a superb modified home build however the yellow Wilga was a close second as it too was a great climber and short stopper. Good video. Thankyou.👍
That DRACO is something else ..it could climb out of a 120ft strip, I hope Mike gets business everyday he wants it...just amazing, climbs at the angle of a seal getting out of ice, just AMAZING...at 3000lbs I understand? Wow, wow, wow
I belief it how this is meant to be done, high angle off attach to the deck, and stoppen on a sort little run... Just like its meant to be done in the real world, short open piece of land in the wilderness surrounded by high trees, hills and mountains... Flying 10 feet of a level deck for a mile before the landing it, really? sigh. well done boys?!
was juss watching hese guys videos, they fly as a group, and land on the tinyest little islands on the ocean on sandbars, anywere,,top of mountains, draco, love that sexy plane, ,
The takeoff at 2:18 is mind-blowingly short, not even the much-vaunted Draco could do that. Yes, different airplanes different weights and different power-to-weight ratios, I don't care. It kicked the Draco's ass which is nice to see. Yes I'm also a Draco fan so keep your attacking comments to yourselves.
I say, the red plane with Turbo Prop -VS- the pistons drivin' aircrafts. I had notice the turbo prop, it has not so noisy with just little whine sound with louder propellers sound. Compared to all of the pistons drivin' is much louder than turbo prop. Turbo prop, it also the most powerful aircraft.
C Smith, if you enjoy this type of flying, search for Trent Palmer and/or Mike Patey and/or the Flying Cowboys in the You Tube search bar. Those are some of the pilots that you were just watching. They all have great vlogs on their YT channels. They land and take off in some really wild and beautiful places when they aren't at Oshkosh! Semper Fi, TreeTop
Yea, thanks, I started out the other day watching Trent's video of Mike Patey's Draco plane, then I watched a bunch of video's of Mike building Draco and just watched the flying cowboys flying around Utah, it looks like so much fun. Thanks
I think the difficulty they were having with the longer landings was that they had to land on concrete instead of grass. concrete tares up those tiers .
i was laughing so hard at this stunning wilga take off, completely blew my mind, absolute madness :D what a rocket! be sure to check out Mike Patey's channel where you can watch videos of the build! It's amazing.
Braeden Hamson, the best performing STOL airplanes are designed to be used in very rough terrain like landing on rocks the size of cantaloupes, or animal holes the size of a basketball. Generally speaking nose wheel assemblies are not tough enough to deal with that environment but a tailwheel airplane with two main wheels up front (with big bushwheels) can handle that abuse. Nothing is preventing someone from designing a great performing STOL plane with a nose wheel, it would takeoff and land short but the airplanes usefulness would be limited by very rough terrain.
А если дунуть побольше, на тормозах с места оторваться без разбега. Я думаю, это реально. Где рекордсмены? Чисто турбу на один полет зарядить и максимально эффективно распределить поток от винта на крыло
DRACO!! DRACO! DRACO!!! ..... Draco (Latin) and Drakon (Greek) mean "serpent", "dragon". The root of these words means "to watch" or "to guard with a sharp eye"
But it does so with a MUCH higher payload, not to mention higher cruise altitudes and speeds. Probably longer range too. It's not just an expensive carbon cub, it's it's own platform. And the price is because it's a completely reengineered plane, with specific wings, better avionics, 4 seat oxygen, etc. If it were made in serial it would be much cheaper, maybe in the 650 region? You could probably use Draco to rescue climbers in the Himalayas :D
Right, it has the STOL performance of a Carbon Cub at almost four times the weight, and the ability to seat four people, and cruise at FL280. It's a truly astonishing aircraft.
Repeat Offender - As you know, it is all about velocity, vectors and acceleration. A stall speed mid 30s (knots), launch distance mid 120s (feet), an angle of ascent at 40°+, O2 for 4, 700 imperial miles at 17000 (feet), able to fly inverted without sputtering (provided there is at least 1 imperial gallon of aviation gasoline [petrol]). What is your true argument? What is the objective of this complaint? Mike Patey threw 💰 at a dream (which, in my humble opinion, achieved a goal). It performs better than originally designed and engineered. Mike created something better. Don't urinate his Cheerios and chill out.
They should have put a 50ft obstacle up at the threshold that would have eliminated 98% of the field gaming the competition with these long flat approaches. #2 look like the only remotely correct short field technique. Fly the wing and put the remaining energy into the pavement vertically on landing not in the ground roll.
Here's a video from 1938 of a Fieseser Storch. Go to :50 for an example of a landing. th-cam.com/video/VDcB0pSUYOI/w-d-xo.html I don't know what this flying 10' off the ground for 1,000 feet on an approach is? Looks like something that doesn't belong. Taking off and clearing trees - great, but if you can land somewhere with a 1,000 foot approach 10' high, why would you need to take off like a rocket?
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9:36 Guy in the background, "I'm too fast, I'm too fast!" Trent nails the touchdown with one of the shortest rollouts of the group.
Draco is one of the weirdest looking helicopters I’ve ever seen.
LOL!
Repeat Offender
Did I say it could get into a tighter space, or in any other way compare it to a Carbon Cub? No? I didn’t think so.
So... I don’t understand YOUR reference.
Mike maidened that thing what, 2 weeks ago? He hadn't even figured out the stall speed before the flight to Airventure! Wait until he gets used to it!
Rick M.. Draco is a Olga 104
This is my favorite comment.
That draco is mind blowing.
And only a million bucks. Plus labor.
And it's got a bold pilot as well. If you know what I mean.
Why? it doesn't take off any faster or in a shorter length than the 20,000 dollar Piper cub...and at 850,000 dollars..who can afford it?
Well it weighs in at 3200 lbs and he only had it flying a week so their still learning speeds. Who can afford it? The guy that built it that's who, oh and its over 1 million btw. Take a cub to 25000 and cruise at 180kts...wait you cant!
Mahdi M. Did he do something unsafe or ?
That Wilga, Mike Patey rebuilt is just so awesome to watch. What a badass plane!
The machines are impressive! More impressive is the way you guys worked together in spacing, control and professionalism! Nice job and a great show promoting backwoods flying done right.
I know I’m responding to an old video, but nicely said, dude.
Being from Alaska most of this stuff is no big deal, But Mikes "DRACO" is mind blowing and I don't think he was even showing off.
Mike Patey's Draco takeoff at 05:41 and landing at 13:41
only reason i watched
Amazing , from my old neighborhood in Utah SKHansen - Draco (Sp Fork UT
That red white and blue airplane is Trent Palmer btw. Hes got a pretty good channel. One of the best low budget airplanes ive ever seen.
Correct, I am subscribed and his channel is really pro.
For an enthusiast like me it provides the perfect insight from the real pilot's view.
Best regards to ya all from South Africa, and thanks for the vlog feed over the pond.
Duncan Craig
Yep. He was a bit long on takeoff but nailed that landing. One of the shortest I saw. He's doing great!
too bad he doesn't have his higher hp engine in there. love his channel
I'd highly recommend his channel. Maybe we should start a Kickstarter for a better engine.
He blew his engine a couple of months ago and only has a borrowed engine with much lower hp at the moment. I think we should start a gofundme to buy him a new engine!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Love seeing that Wilga and the Flying Cowboys.
Dang, Draco didn’t do as well as I thought he would. Amazing plane. Can’t wait til version 2
Wow! Some of these guys can be helicopters. Man, that Draco can climb. Great video and thanks for not adding music.
LOVE the way the Draco can preload those mainwheels and SPRING IT into the air in 116 feet!!
The bright yellow wins it in my book. Well done cowboys.
Basic specs on Draco. Around 700+ HP engine. ALL items for lift and direction maxxed out which gives it around 35 stall speed. 737 passenger aircraft lighting put on that little plane in front and back. And he estimates 3000+ hours building and 1 million spent.
They need a whole new category for Draco, heavy STOL.
BrainStem Recruiter Mega STOL.
The Wilga is just awesome
You are not mistaken. But this one is improved a lot. Amazing plane!
I volunteered at Oshkosh this year.
MallardDuck Aviation I bolted a bunch of traffic signs for them on Sunday before it started. I was camped out by the ripple road exit just off of Stitts Rd. --- the south end.
Samual Whittemore I parked planes at North, South, and Area 51
Cindy Klenk thanks
I love airshows.
Kitfox stopped shortest! Good job Trent !
Paint is still wet on Draco. Can't believe how much time and effort he put into that thing.
And skill and engineering and imagination. And money.
Thanks for all your videos. They are GRADE A. You got some good camera skills man.. following those planes like you do ain't easy.
Well done Trent , nice job
Draco ...engine with wings attached.
Not any more
Draco is at my airport! :)
Stearman100GD which airport is it
Henri Steyl KSPK
How many scrolled through the video just to see the DRACO and Freedom Fox?
Yup! ;^)
THAT'S what I've been waiting for! Thank you!
These are fun... and you can almost afford to do it!
Draco is an amazing aircraft but there is lots of money invested there too.
Rick B The investment would be redundant without the skills to take advantage of the result.
Toady , I think there is a ton of skill and craftsmanship in that aircraft, no doubt about it. The skills to be able to come up with the engineering are obvious too. I love what I’v seen in the way of innovations to Draco but it still takes money and lots of it. Not for one minute trying to take away from the idea, the design and the skills to do what has been done.
The wilga looks like a peterbilt compared to the rest. Wicked poweeful and insane climb rate though!
Love how in the opening, you don't even have to SEE Draco to know that she's there. XD
Yes...Draco Wilga really is a superb modified home build however the yellow Wilga was a close second as it too was a great climber and short stopper. Good video. Thankyou.👍
Who ever film that - Excellent !!!!
That DRACO is something else ..it could climb out of a 120ft strip, I hope Mike gets business everyday he wants it...just amazing, climbs at the angle of a seal getting out of ice, just AMAZING...at 3000lbs I understand? Wow, wow, wow
2:16 That takeoff is just 👌😔🤚
"Look at this guy...I'm too fast, I'm too fast!" and then Trent stomps the landing........LOL Mockery usually checks you.......just saying.
I belief it how this is meant to be done, high angle off attach to the deck, and stoppen on a sort little run... Just like its meant to be done in the real world, short open piece of land in the wilderness surrounded by high trees, hills and mountains... Flying 10 feet of a level deck for a mile before the landing it, really? sigh. well done boys?!
just for everyone else, Trent's landing is at 9:36, and takeoff is at 2:32.
WOW!!! truly unique piloting skills for unique requirements
That turboprop is so crazy! This is from an Alaska Boy!
Interesting! Just came across these races, pretty interesting.
Some of those could be in a vtol competition!
Why did you ignore CC Poccock and his C-170 at 4:46?
Graeme De Kock It was camo so he couldnt see it
Not sure, I think he got distracted. Wasn't intentional
After watching all previous takeoffs, at 05:56 I could not help it but laugh...
Draco is heading to orbit! 🚀🚀😂😂😂
was juss watching hese guys videos, they fly as a group, and land on the tinyest little islands on the ocean on sandbars, anywere,,top of mountains, draco, love that sexy plane, ,
4:49 didn’t even see the green airplane against the trees lol
Needs more Storch.
Does anybody know where to find the official results?
Why is it that we only see one highlander (Steve Henry)? And no zenith STOLs? Where are those pilots?
Where are the Zenith aircraft for this stol competition?
The yellow plane is in first place and the red on second position?
The takeoff at 2:18 is mind-blowingly short, not even the much-vaunted Draco could do that. Yes, different airplanes different weights and different power-to-weight ratios, I don't care. It kicked the Draco's ass which is nice to see. Yes I'm also a Draco fan so keep your attacking comments to yourselves.
DRACO is the airplane that said, "When I grow up, I want to be a helicopter."
JUST AMAZING...
They all take off, then DRACO TAKES OFF!!! HOLY AWESOME SAUCE BATMAN!!!!
draco r custome plane ?
Draco flugzeug ist das polnische PZL Wilga 2000.
I say, the red plane with Turbo Prop -VS- the pistons drivin' aircrafts. I had notice the turbo prop, it has not so noisy with just little whine sound with louder propellers sound. Compared to all of the pistons drivin' is much louder than turbo prop. Turbo prop, it also the most powerful aircraft.
Tha was a hoot. Was that last one a Wilga?
Yes....a VERY modified Wilga
How about that climb angle, like the proverbial homesick angel!
Very cool, I had no idea this kind of stuff went on.
C Smith, if you enjoy this type of flying, search for Trent Palmer and/or Mike Patey and/or the Flying Cowboys in the You Tube search bar. Those are some of the pilots that you were just watching. They all have great vlogs on their YT channels.
They land and take off in some really wild and beautiful places when they aren't at Oshkosh!
Semper Fi, TreeTop
Yea, thanks, I started out the other day watching Trent's video of Mike Patey's Draco plane, then I watched a bunch of video's of Mike building Draco and just watched the flying cowboys flying around Utah, it looks like so much fun.
Thanks
Draco Takeoff @5:42
Draco Landing @13:43
a pitty that the whole footage is out of focus
Amazing!
I think the difficulty they were having with the longer landings was that they had to land on concrete instead of grass. concrete tares up those tiers .
Man those props are screaming!
Loved the competition. However, I think it should have more focus.. lol
Around 5:42 that red plane had the best takeoff not to mention it was kinda scary at the same time
That is Draco that a lot of the comments are talking about.
RIP, Draco.
Fun fly zone is a better venue for this.
2:17 that was quick af
Wilga is awesome and it’s all about the money you are willing to put into it.
So, who won?
It was actually a demonstration, not a competition.
I would argue the yellow with blue tips at 3:20 and 10:35 would have won looking at the takeoff and landing distances. That guy has skills!
He missed his marks landing Draco. Still amazing.
Draco is the best 👍
5:42 mark . . . . . . . .EPIC TAKEOFF
Good stuff.
Must’ve been windy.
That all red plane is a bit too "flashy" ... ;)
😀 Draco - and this is a plane for four people !!! Helicopter FATO/TLOF is enough 😱
Draco wins!
Mike thought he was entering the VTOL competition.
i was laughing so hard at this stunning wilga take off, completely blew my mind, absolute madness :D what a rocket!
be sure to check out Mike Patey's channel where you can watch videos of the build! It's amazing.
Anyone know why tricycle gear aircraft are unpopular for STOL?
I used to routinely embarass people in my Cardinal by bringing in all the gear they left behind.
They cant achieve the same angle of attack so they need a longer take off roll by default
Braeden Hamson, the best performing STOL airplanes are designed to be used in very rough terrain like landing on rocks the size of cantaloupes, or animal holes the size of a basketball. Generally speaking nose wheel assemblies are not tough enough to deal with that environment but a tailwheel airplane with two main wheels up front (with big bushwheels) can handle that abuse. Nothing is preventing someone from designing a great performing STOL plane with a nose wheel, it would takeoff and land short but the airplanes usefulness would be limited by very rough terrain.
Propellers don't like dirt
1:48 bless you
SHOWWWWWW!
Aas a layperson, how do they stop so fast and short\!?
good brakes and balance
and the red one, Draco, also uses reverse thrust by reversing the pitch of the propeller
DRACO! Word up!
I’m just here for Draco.. : )
А если дунуть побольше, на тормозах с места оторваться без разбега. Я думаю, это реально. Где рекордсмены? Чисто турбу на один полет зарядить и максимально эффективно распределить поток от винта на крыло
5:42 the best
Does anyone else see the face in the clouds @ 6:02 ??
DRACO!! DRACO! DRACO!!! .....
Draco (Latin) and Drakon (Greek) mean "serpent", "dragon". The root of these words means "to watch" or "to guard with a sharp eye"
How the hell do they takeoff so quick
Lots of power, low weight, and high-lift configuration with big wings. It's one of the big party tricks of a bush plane.
Hunter's Moon light weight, high power and large wing surface.
I see Patey was there
Draco is plane on steroids.
Draco is making people humble. Iron sheikh style
But it does so with a MUCH higher payload, not to mention higher cruise altitudes and speeds. Probably longer range too. It's not just an expensive carbon cub, it's it's own platform. And the price is because it's a completely reengineered plane, with specific wings, better avionics, 4 seat oxygen, etc. If it were made in serial it would be much cheaper, maybe in the 650 region? You could probably use Draco to rescue climbers in the Himalayas :D
Right, it has the STOL performance of a Carbon Cub at almost four times the weight, and the ability to seat four people, and cruise at FL280. It's a truly astonishing aircraft.
Repeat Offender
No, it's just a fun plane; really the whole point of a STOL.
Repeat Offender - As you know, it is all about velocity, vectors and acceleration. A stall speed mid 30s (knots), launch distance mid 120s (feet), an angle of ascent at 40°+, O2 for 4, 700 imperial miles at 17000 (feet), able to fly inverted without sputtering (provided there is at least 1 imperial gallon of aviation gasoline [petrol]).
What is your true argument? What is the objective of this complaint? Mike Patey threw 💰 at a dream (which, in my humble opinion, achieved a goal). It performs better than originally designed and engineered. Mike created something better. Don't urinate his Cheerios and chill out.
They should have put a 50ft obstacle up at the threshold that would have eliminated 98% of the field gaming the competition with these long flat approaches. #2 look like the only remotely correct short field technique. Fly the wing and put the remaining energy into the pavement vertically on landing not in the ground roll.
The red dracko
Amazing performance. Those big wheels look kind of funny though.
Patey killed them!
Some one sneezed bless you
I still like the cessnas the best
Here's a video from 1938 of a Fieseser Storch. Go to :50 for an example of a landing. th-cam.com/video/VDcB0pSUYOI/w-d-xo.html I don't know what this flying 10' off the ground for 1,000 feet on an approach is? Looks like something that doesn't belong. Taking off and clearing trees - great, but if you can land somewhere with a 1,000 foot approach 10' high, why would you need to take off like a rocket?