Amazon reviews are basically worthless. They are mostly fake and/or purchased. I’ve received a ton of products with a note inside promising money or another product if I give a 5 star review. I’ve gone back in my order history and found old products that have been completely changed to new ones in order to harvest the reviews. Amazon is literally one of the least valuable places to find product feedback.
“Least valuable” might be a little over dramatic… if you actually read them and focus on negative reviews and reviews with photos (not just ratings), Amazon reviews can be pretty useful
When I buy something on Amazon that has overwhelmingly positive (5-star) reviews, I sort through the 1 and 2-star reviews to see what problems they encountered and whether those are valid for my use case.
I was going to say the same thing. Fake and bought reviews could definitely be an interesting topic for some long form videos. I don't have a ton of proof but I believe reviews for businesses on Google are also being bought. I recently found a local business that has tons of strange 5 star reviews and nearly every account that left that review only has one review and/or has multiple reviews but for businesses all over the county.
Marques is on Macbookpro M1, David is on Chromebook and Andrew is on Windows. Thank you for the ongoing support of all systems. Just waiting on Linux based as well as everything else! Loving the diversity!
Chromebooks main OS is ChromeOS. It will run within that It’s version of Linux, and also its version of Android. Technically speaking a descendant from the Chromium Project.
This episode was probably one of my favorites out of the whole series, it was so funny I laughed so hard at so many different moments. Love the chemistry & banter between you guys.
As a designer who has worked on review systems I can say you definitely nailed it with the giving up on 5-star and going to binary. Most users are thinking in binary terms so this is not only more realistic but also gets more engagement. You touched on the big challenge at the beginning of the discussion, but it’s worth emphasizing: the main challenge of review systems is getting people to review *at all.* A more nuanced system would be both useful to consumers and good feedback for a company, but there’s no room for this en masse because you’re never coming back to the product page after you bought it (unless you have a strong binary feeling like love or hate). I think that’s why nuanced product reviewers have an entire niche. You can read consumer reports or WireCutter, and watch TH-cam videos like yours or LTT.
Havent finished the episode yet but for those that also have shower mirrors that fog up, try holding the mirror under the hot shower water for a few seconds to get it to match the temperature. It should stay defogged until it begins to cool down again. bonus pro tip: If your mirror becomes hard to see in from water spots or whatever, try putting a dab of toothpaste on it and scrub it all over the mirror, then wash it off. Should be good as new.
I must try this, thanks. Also just got to this part of the podcast and got annoyed all over again... I have had all these same ideas and tried a bunch of things to no avail.
The name iPod was proposed by Vinnie Chieco, a freelance copywriter, who (with others) was contracted by Apple to determine how to introduce the new player to the public. After Chieco saw a prototype, he was reminded of the phrase "Open the pod bay doors, Hal" from the classic sci-fi film 2001: A Space Odyssey, referring to the white EVA Pods of the Discovery One spaceship Chieco's proposal drew an analogy between the relationship of the spaceship to the smaller independent pods and that of a personal computer to its companion music player
This was a great podcast! 5/5 stars! No, really, i am totally starting to get into the waveform podcast! And i have never liked podcasts before. Cheers, Atlas! P.S. Bostondynamics rocks!
I like specifically reading 3/4 star reviews on Amazon, since so many Amazon sellers run the scam where they promise customers a gift card in exchange for a 5-star review. At least with 3 or 4-star reviews, you know the reviewer wasn't paid off for their review and it's likely to be more honest as a result.
I’m a Creative Director for a church that uses professional audio and video equipment. He could not be more accurate about churches beating up equipment and that being a test of quality 😂
Pulling the MacBook Air out of an envelope was crazy. But Steve pulling that iPod nano out of his tiny denim pocket was WILD. I’ll never forget that moment.
Yeah, I agree. And I usually don’t go either 1 or 5. I often go for 2, 3 and 4. Very often 4. Unless it is something that was of quality in every possible way. Btw I also read a lot of different reviews so not just 5 and 1 star ones. But of course there might be others that do it differently.
In terms of reviews, you need to be reviewing the product based on what was advertised. If the new MacBook doesn't have wifi 6e for example, I don't think it's fair to give it a lower review because it never advertised that it would. Reviews, in my eyes, are a way of telling others that the advertised product is and does what it said it would
25:58 When I first moved into my house, there was a ton of echo and every time the house settled, it sounded like somebody was in my house walking around, so I started to get used to ignoring every sound as being just the house settling. Then one time I hear a noise and think, “No, it’s just the house settling,” and then I happened to look towards my HomePod and saw the light was on. So what I had written off as the house settling was Siri saying “huh?”. That really shook me knowing that I could hear a human voice in my house and I wouldn’t think anything of it.
I usually watch these podcasts on Google Podcasts but when you guys do something funny (or show something) I switch it to TH-cam. I watched this entirely on TH-cam and realized that there are no ads like there are Google Podcasts? I love Google Podcasts because of the features like silence trimming and continuous playback speed rather than discrete (fixed) values of TH-cam but the no ad thing is interesting 🤔 Also, I rate this podcast 10/10 and it's a real 10/10 because this is the only podcast I listen to. Can't imagine listening to anything other than tech for an hour lol
I think for high volume products, we could ask people just a few yes/no questions on it, instead of asking people for their overall opinion. Things like "Is the mirror easy to install?" and "Does the anti-steam surface work?"
19:52 - People who buy HomeKit products buy separate HomeKit Temperature and humidity sensors, so the fact it's built in and the HomePods are going to be placed in every room it's very helpful. Also People buy smart smoke and fire alarms to be alerted when there's a fire in their home. Also Spotify is the problem for not supporting the HomePod not Apple. I think you guys don't get the full home ecosystem from Apple. The HomePod fits perfect into HomeKit. You need to invest into a full system to understand the HomePod and its use.
The subtle updates for this new m2 MacBook pros was just enough for me to upgrade from my 2015 13” macbook. Thankfully I didn’t buy last years model for Christmas
6:29 ARC also does that because thats what ARC means i.e. audio return channel. eARC is just enhanced ARC which means it can do advance audio codecs such as Dolby Atmos which regular ARC cannot do.
eArc (and by extension Dolby Atmos) is also available in HDMI 2.0b. Yes the bandwidth increase with HDMI 2.1 provides room for eArc, but the return channel bandwidth on HDMI 2.0 wasn't bandwidth-saturated like the downstream image bandwidth. HDMI 2.0b also added HDR. Regular Arc has been around since HDMI 1.4.
FWIW, the lack of native support of Spotify on HomePod is a Spotify issue and not an Apple issue. Apple opened up support for third-party music services on HomePod in 2020. The lack of support seems to be another way Spotify is taking shots at Apple. It's actually one of the top 10 requests on the Spotify Live Ideas community page. I've gotten used to Airplay in my HomePod ecosystem, but I agree it's annoying...especially since it natively works in CarPlay.
The robot walking on the plank was pretty interesting because that plank wasn't straight if you noticed, when it put the plank, that was the task. The walking was probably another instruction set that adapted to the location of the plank without previous knowledge of where it was exactly. I'm a programmer and I can tell you that the level of engineering that goes into this is probably much much more sophisticated than it appears. The hallmark of amazing technology is when the complexity is hidden behind apparent simplicity.
I typically look for reviews woth in between numbers since it often takes a nuanced perspective and mind to even want to give it a score other than 1 or 5, and that nuance and detail is what I'm interested in because it has honesty and reason
My current MBP 16' is a beast, no need to upgrade for a many years. Each time I use a windows laptop, which I have purchased a few mid-high tier ones, always disappointed with some aspect of it. Then I just go back to using my MBP 16 or even the older M1 MBA anyway 🤣
This particular episode was so entertaining and I literally laughed out loud several times. Also enjoyed the different perspectives, diversity, and informational on tech, as always.
I have two HomePods paired as speakers for my Apple TV. After looking at atmos sound bars and their prices 2 years ago, my conclusion was that they are better looking and cheaper. I’m not sure it’s still the case but I really pleased with them despite Siri not always being the smartest home assistant 😂
I loved the review section. I want to know if am I the only one that reads 3-star reviews. 5 star reviews typically are not reflective and 1 star are typically more jaded.
ARC already added return (Audio Return Channel) which was amazing in that you can just have all the devices (Chromecast, Firestick, games systems, etc.) connected to the TV and a single HDMI to the sound system. It essentially negates the need for multiple HDMI inputs on the sound system and there's no need to switch inputs on it. eARC is the Enhanced version with more bandwidth and faster speed.
Another idea for reviews would be to keep the numbered rating system, but also have a "Do you recommend this product? button. Speaks to David's point about products being great in a vacuum, or great in comparison to similar products
Amazon reviews are basically worthless. They are mostly fake and/or purchased. I’ve received a ton of products with a note inside promising money or another product if I give a 5 star review. I’ve gone back in my order history and found old products that have been completely changed to new ones in order to harvest the reviews. Amazon is literally one of the least valuable places to find product feedback.
Yup it's insane how many paid reviews there are on amazon
“Least valuable” might be a little over dramatic… if you actually read them and focus on negative reviews and reviews with photos (not just ratings), Amazon reviews can be pretty useful
It honestly makes me so angry. Can’t trust anything when buying products now. If I see an item with more than 10,000 reviews I already know its bogus
When I buy something on Amazon that has overwhelmingly positive (5-star) reviews, I sort through the 1 and 2-star reviews to see what problems they encountered and whether those are valid for my use case.
I was going to say the same thing. Fake and bought reviews could definitely be an interesting topic for some long form videos. I don't have a ton of proof but I believe reviews for businesses on Google are also being bought. I recently found a local business that has tons of strange 5 star reviews and nearly every account that left that review only has one review and/or has multiple reviews but for businesses all over the county.
Love how the producer mic is in the most inconvenient place for both of them lol
I could make it more inconvenient
🎙️🎙️
Love is a strong word
I love their t-shirt 👕😻
Lol, why is it raised up so high
Marques is on Macbookpro M1, David is on Chromebook and Andrew is on Windows. Thank you for the ongoing support of all systems. Just waiting on Linux based as well as everything else! Loving the diversity!
Technically speaking…David is on Linux
A Framework user/owner repairable & upgradable Chromebook at that. You know, the opposite of the MacBooks.
ChromeOS IS Linux, wot?!
Chromebooks main OS is ChromeOS. It will run within that It’s version of Linux, and also its version of Android.
Technically speaking a descendant from the Chromium Project.
@@KeyT3ch ChromeOS is as much Linux as Android is Linux. That is, not really anymore
“You don’t like the patina?” - LOL!
Reviewing reviews my favorite part of the podcast. I'd love to see more off the cuff rants
Been waiting all week for the pod
love when David's on the pod!
I'm hoping it's permanent, it seems like it is at this point
@@volt734 it is!
The moment at 21:20 where Marques goes "Yup" and points is so funny
I laughed way more than I expected at that moment lmao
I was LMAO on that one
Probs one of the greatest podcasts yall have had. The creative yet chaotic energy was amazing 😂
This episode was probably one of my favorites out of the whole series, it was so funny I laughed so hard at so many different moments. Love the chemistry & banter between you guys.
Did they hear all the comments and force David to become a cohost 😆
Obviously they can read
It could be just the case of work being less as it's Jan. Enjoy till it lasts kind of thing.
Idk why but this was the most I have laughed during a wvfrm episode 😂
same
Is David permanently on the pod? Please be yes!
As a designer who has worked on review systems I can say you definitely nailed it with the giving up on 5-star and going to binary. Most users are thinking in binary terms so this is not only more realistic but also gets more engagement. You touched on the big challenge at the beginning of the discussion, but it’s worth emphasizing: the main challenge of review systems is getting people to review *at all.*
A more nuanced system would be both useful to consumers and good feedback for a company, but there’s no room for this en masse because you’re never coming back to the product page after you bought it (unless you have a strong binary feeling like love or hate).
I think that’s why nuanced product reviewers have an entire niche. You can read consumer reports or WireCutter, and watch TH-cam videos like yours or LTT.
Marques let us in on his psyche this episode. He’s a dope creative thinker. I like how he expresses his ideas
He’s just a dope 😂
Telegram yourself
This episode was GOLD. I laughed out loud so many times omg.
This was one of the best episodes ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Havent finished the episode yet but for those that also have shower mirrors that fog up, try holding the mirror under the hot shower water for a few seconds to get it to match the temperature. It should stay defogged until it begins to cool down again.
bonus pro tip: If your mirror becomes hard to see in from water spots or whatever, try putting a dab of toothpaste on it and scrub it all over the mirror, then wash it off. Should be good as new.
I must try this, thanks. Also just got to this part of the podcast and got annoyed all over again... I have had all these same ideas and tried a bunch of things to no avail.
David made this podcast much more entertaining and taking it to another level. Loving it.
The episode was fun to watch, it was like there was the filter of seriousness removed and you were having fun .
This pod cast is the best
Let's get Sandy on the pod! Old Man Radio!!!
The name iPod was proposed by Vinnie Chieco, a freelance copywriter, who (with others) was contracted by Apple to determine how to introduce the new player to the public. After Chieco saw a prototype, he was reminded of the phrase "Open the pod bay doors, Hal" from the classic sci-fi film 2001: A Space Odyssey, referring to the white EVA Pods of the Discovery One spaceship
Chieco's proposal drew an analogy between the relationship of the spaceship to the smaller independent pods and that of a personal computer to its companion music player
0:35:25 Them bois are in sync! 😂
This was a great podcast! 5/5 stars! No, really, i am totally starting to get into the waveform podcast! And i have never liked podcasts before. Cheers, Atlas! P.S. Bostondynamics rocks!
NOT giving a 5 star review is essentially going out of your way to lower a rating for any product you review.
Can someone count how many times we said reviews ... especially the review's review 😂
the home pod going "huh?" at the squeaky air-conditioner got me 😂
I'm not sure what rating I would give it, but this is definitely the only podcast I listen to every week on TH-cam 😁
I like specifically reading 3/4 star reviews on Amazon, since so many Amazon sellers run the scam where they promise customers a gift card in exchange for a 5-star review. At least with 3 or 4-star reviews, you know the reviewer wasn't paid off for their review and it's likely to be more honest as a result.
But what if even they are paid to look more real?
@@Systox25 I think that's thinking too hard about it haha, I doubt companies would want to purposely drag their rating average down to 3 stars
The HDMI explanation was priceless…Great Job!!
I can’t believe I have just discovered this podcast. So far I’m loving it.
Increasingly getting more chaotic and more fun.
I’m a Creative Director for a church that uses professional audio and video equipment. He could not be more accurate about churches beating up equipment and that being a test of quality 😂
The Boston dynamics videos are some of the best and scariest videos
I do like the barbershop style podcast (friends hanging out and shooting the breeze) .
Pulling the MacBook Air out of an envelope was crazy. But Steve pulling that iPod nano out of his tiny denim pocket was WILD. I’ll never forget that moment.
David's got a framework! nice one :)
Idk what you guys are talking about, usually the reviews under 5 stars but over 1 are the best. They generally hold the most perspective and nuance.
Yeah, I agree. And I usually don’t go either 1 or 5. I often go for 2, 3 and 4. Very often 4. Unless it is something that was of quality in every possible way. Btw I also read a lot of different reviews so not just 5 and 1 star ones. But of course there might be others that do it differently.
I think adding david was the perfect thing. Not like Marques and Andrew were not doing a good job already, but David just made it perfect
Humidity and temperature for plants, people with respiratory conditions, etc. Very useful.
54:01 The star-collapsing-black-hole bit was amazing. 😂
23:30 ...thanks Andrew🙃
Stoked that David's in all the episodes now!
In terms of reviews, you need to be reviewing the product based on what was advertised. If the new MacBook doesn't have wifi 6e for example, I don't think it's fair to give it a lower review because it never advertised that it would. Reviews, in my eyes, are a way of telling others that the advertised product is and does what it said it would
25:58 When I first moved into my house, there was a ton of echo and every time the house settled, it sounded like somebody was in my house walking around, so I started to get used to ignoring every sound as being just the house settling. Then one time I hear a noise and think, “No, it’s just the house settling,” and then I happened to look towards my HomePod and saw the light was on. So what I had written off as the house settling was Siri saying “huh?”. That really shook me knowing that I could hear a human voice in my house and I wouldn’t think anything of it.
“I think something can be perfect, and still could be better.”
I’m calling this The Reviewer’s Creed
I usually watch these podcasts on Google Podcasts but when you guys do something funny (or show something) I switch it to TH-cam. I watched this entirely on TH-cam and realized that there are no ads like there are Google Podcasts? I love Google Podcasts because of the features like silence trimming and continuous playback speed rather than discrete (fixed) values of TH-cam but the no ad thing is interesting 🤔
Also, I rate this podcast 10/10 and it's a real 10/10 because this is the only podcast I listen to. Can't imagine listening to anything other than tech for an hour lol
The podcast is getting better and better
I think for high volume products, we could ask people just a few yes/no questions on it, instead of asking people for their overall opinion. Things like "Is the mirror easy to install?" and "Does the anti-steam surface work?"
TechAltar had made an app which was really good for this purpose called crowwd IIRC, but unfortunately it was costing them too much to keep running.
Marques is like the responsible dad trying to keep his unruly kids in line lol
19:52 - People who buy HomeKit products buy separate HomeKit Temperature and humidity sensors, so the fact it's built in and the HomePods are going to be placed in every room it's very helpful. Also People buy smart smoke and fire alarms to be alerted when there's a fire in their home.
Also Spotify is the problem for not supporting the HomePod not Apple.
I think you guys don't get the full home ecosystem from Apple. The HomePod fits perfect into HomeKit. You need to invest into a full system to understand the HomePod and its use.
Funny thing is the second they started talking about the homepod youtube showed me a ad about it
I wish they would have continued with the review topic, it was VERY interesting. I hope this spirals into a video on the main channel
I hope there will always be you 3 guys, I enjoy David in the podcasts so don’t kick it 😅
I can’t tell how much I love these people and this podcast.
I give this podcast 5 stars
51:51 - This is why podcasts are better than videos
Love the Onyx coffee representation!
That Jony Ive impression was on point.
The subtle updates for this new m2 MacBook pros was just enough for me to upgrade from my 2015 13” macbook. Thankfully I didn’t buy last years model for Christmas
I like the "prove it" part because we know you got the latest and greatest.😂
6:29 ARC also does that because thats what ARC means i.e. audio return channel. eARC is just enhanced ARC which means it can do advance audio codecs such as Dolby Atmos which regular ARC cannot do.
incorrectomundo
M2 MacBooks is my dream!
Apple has opened the API for Spotify to work on Homepod, but Spotify has refused to use it to integrate with Homepods.
Sonos probably don’t want them to either
Exactly what I came to say!^
Spotify’s problem. Not Apple
I always go to 3 star reviews. It's the clearest picture of how good the product is.
eArc (and by extension Dolby Atmos) is also available in HDMI 2.0b.
Yes the bandwidth increase with HDMI 2.1 provides room for eArc, but the return channel bandwidth on HDMI 2.0 wasn't bandwidth-saturated like the downstream image bandwidth.
HDMI 2.0b also added HDR.
Regular Arc has been around since HDMI 1.4.
35:23 I can't stop rewatching this part lol
i took a drink of beer every time they said "review". i woke up in the icu.
Lol “put it in the microwave, then I eat it” “you gotta heat it up first!”
FWIW, the lack of native support of Spotify on HomePod is a Spotify issue and not an Apple issue. Apple opened up support for third-party music services on HomePod in 2020. The lack of support seems to be another way Spotify is taking shots at Apple. It's actually one of the top 10 requests on the Spotify Live Ideas community page. I've gotten used to Airplay in my HomePod ecosystem, but I agree it's annoying...especially since it natively works in CarPlay.
Baffling that MKBHD and team are not aware of this. It has been more than 2 years now.
Honestly one of the best episodes ever
David with the framework! Please can we get a review or a bit r8 on it!
This is amazing video with a lot of great helpful works very you.
Ellis should get his own mic!
The robot walking on the plank was pretty interesting because that plank wasn't straight if you noticed, when it put the plank, that was the task. The walking was probably another instruction set that adapted to the location of the plank without previous knowledge of where it was exactly. I'm a programmer and I can tell you that the level of engineering that goes into this is probably much much more sophisticated than it appears. The hallmark of amazing technology is when the complexity is hidden behind apparent simplicity.
Really great and funny podcast this week😂
Hey David Imel ...... Nice Framework. What are your thoughts?
I typically look for reviews woth in between numbers since it often takes a nuanced perspective and mind to even want to give it a score other than 1 or 5, and that nuance and detail is what I'm interested in because it has honesty and reason
"we have this at my church, and we love it" can confirm
😂
This episode had so many good moments
I think 21:15 is the funniest bit from the podcast this year so far😂
Yup 🫵😀
Loved this episode 🎉😊 4/5
My current MBP 16' is a beast, no need to upgrade for a many years. Each time I use a windows laptop, which I have purchased a few mid-high tier ones, always disappointed with some aspect of it. Then I just go back to using my MBP 16 or even the older M1 MBA anyway 🤣
This particular episode was so entertaining and I literally laughed out loud several times. Also enjoyed the different perspectives, diversity, and informational on tech, as always.
47:00 "Did it break through the window of my enemy" lovely
The way the robot was moving on that Boston dynamics video is MIND BLOWING I literally don't believe it it's like a cartoon but In real life
When I look at review I usal filter to 'most recent' so I know what the product is currently like.
Good job explaining eARC 👍
I have two HomePods paired as speakers for my Apple TV. After looking at atmos sound bars and their prices 2 years ago, my conclusion was that they are better looking and cheaper. I’m not sure it’s still the case but I really pleased with them despite Siri not always being the smartest home assistant 😂
I'm surprised no one mentioned searching for specialty review blogs/websites for more in-depth and reliable reviews
It’s just a nerdy good time listening to David rattle off info at like 37Gbps.
I loved the review section. I want to know if am I the only one that reads 3-star reviews. 5 star reviews typically are not reflective and 1 star are typically more jaded.
ARC already added return (Audio Return Channel) which was amazing in that you can just have all the devices (Chromecast, Firestick, games systems, etc.) connected to the TV and a single HDMI to the sound system. It essentially negates the need for multiple HDMI inputs on the sound system and there's no need to switch inputs on it. eARC is the Enhanced version with more bandwidth and faster speed.
FYI guys: 'Blog' was originally short for 'Web Log'. Then when 'Video Blogging' became a thing, it made since to shorten to 'Vlog'
Neglecting support for spotify on a speaker has to be one of the biggest moves of insecurity by a company
What a great comedy podcast! The tech commentary was nice too.
That Home Max sold poorly but was fantastic!
I didn’t think I cared to know little things about tech but this podcast grew on me bc of y’all so s/o to you guy fun talk
Another idea for reviews would be to keep the numbered rating system, but also have a "Do you recommend this product? button. Speaks to David's point about products being great in a vacuum, or great in comparison to similar products