I was actually going through my old 3ds and I was blown away by the memories on there in 3D. it was weird how it was a gimmick at the time but now it's just that the memories have depth forever.
With the Apple Vision Pro, when you get up and start moving, if you were in full immersion, it fades to the real world for you to see where you are walking. Once you stop moving, it reimmerses you.
An AR/VR headset doesn't work for a live reveal because they can't actually convey to you what the device is like. The video they showed can only go so far towards trying to explain what the device is but people have to wear it to truly understand.
Being someone who has watched every Apple Keynote ever, I like the new formats way better. More engaging, more entertaining, more information and more accessible to more people. Do I think there is room for a hybrid style, something that brings a little more for those who attend, like live introductions of each section with some quick samples, then 75% of it being video, then a closing with a high profile band giving something for the crowd...yeah, that would be cool too.
Does anyone remember the old 'BUMP' app, where you could share documents, contacts etc just by bumping your phone together? I STILL miss that app to this day and the new namedrop feature reminds me a lot of that.
No joke, Apple TV screensavers are mesmerising. More than a few times I've just gotten lost watching them slowly fly along (or 'swim' in the neat underwater ones), studying what's there and what's happening. I love that I'll be able to get them on my computer too.
@@Broba_Fett Most of the time my wife and I are FaceTiming with family and it’d be nicer to be able to have it mounted somewhere so that both of us can talk without having weird angles or keep moving the phone to whoever is talking. Similar reasons to why you would want a webcam on your computer for Zoom calls instead of having to be handheld the whole time.
The reverse eye passthrough was super conflicting for me but the more I think about it, I like it. The cost and weight is unnecessary, but giving the people around you a window into your receptivity is compelling. When demoing VR to my friends I always felt weird interacting with them when in the headset. I imagine people feel weird interacting with me when I'm in VR. This is a great middle ground. It has a cost but it makes sense.
19:08 the old widget feature in macOS was called Dashboard, which was introduced in 10.4 Tiger and deprecated in 10.10 Yosemite in favor of Notification Center. There's a good overview in Wikipedia under the page title "Dashboard (macOS)"
Prediction: in a near future version of iOS they introduce the ability to take 3D photos with your iPhone. Like the panorama it will prompt you to take photos from two different vantage points and will stitch the photos together and smooth out the differences to make a 3D photo you can view through the headset
Or one of the cameras will be on the opposite side of the phone so when you enable 3D pic mode, it take two pics at once and makes a light depth effect you can truly enjoy in vision os. Maybe even use a bit of Live Photos to fill in more depth data for the picture.
I completely agree, @David Wych! I predict iPhone 16 or 17 may either add a 3D photo mode - or - actually add another lens to the opposite corner of the phone to take proper 3D photos. It makes perfect sense so that all of your photos & videos are true 3D to be enjoyed on all future generations of Vision headsets. It would be great to build a library of 3D photos & videos *now*, because reliving them in the future will be more emotionally powerful in 3D. (It’s kind of like when Apple introduced 4K video recording a while ago, even when many people didn’t yet own 4K TVs or 4K Apple TVs. When you build your personal library at a higher quality, you will eventually appreciate your precious memories when you have improved tech.)
I believe Apple might have already have plan for that. They could probably make use of the LiDAR or true depth sensor to achieve similar of kind 3D effect. With icloud photo sharing, the photos/videos you taken in other devices, I am sure it will be accessible by the headset as well.
54:30 right now I’m at a transition point where, when I’m feeling a bit tired I won’t take them out and just put it in transparency mode when ordering something at a coffee shop or restaurant
I don’t know how to communicate this to you guys, but the version of the podcast you just uploaded to Apple podcasts is last weeks podcast over again. I think you uploaded the wrong file. The problem will probably be fixed before you even see this comment but I had to try.
44:38 Standby - I wonder if the Belkin iPhone Mount with MagSafe for Mac Notebooks would trigger Standby. Then the phone can be placed anywhere you have a flat surface using the ring stand. Does it need to be charging or just connected to a MagSafe accessory?
If you're reading this David, I feel like everything you predict or every rationale that you give for why anyone did anything is just spot on!! Really appreciate it man!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Based on the handful of reviews and podcasts I've now heard about the Vision Pro, setting aside the price, it really does sound amazing. It also sounds like something you can't "unexperience" (if that makes sense) once you've tried it if you have any history at all with other headsets. Btw, that light meter example was exactly what I thought of as an app you almost never use but is so handy when you need it.
1:36:00 One thing nobody mentioned is how to handle the transition from plugged into the wall to using the battery pack. Wouldn't the headset turn off when you unplug? So you'll have to keep turning the unit off to switch between wall plugged and battery plugged.
I think that Journal is being overlooked, but not because of the app. To me, Journal feels like a demo product for the "Suggestions API," which is a channel to personal curated experiences that many apps could potentially use (with permission).
The call screening feature on the Pixel is *the* reason why I haven't switched to a different line of phones. It is the perfect tool for any time when you are receiving a call from a phone number you don't recognize. It has virtually eliminated spam phone calls for me.
I say the following as an Android/Windows user: Some people don't seem to understand that Apple Vision Pro is more than "just a headset". It's a WEARABLE MACBOOK with desktop performance that can replace a laptop for many if not most people. You don't need an iPhone, iPad, or Macbook to use it. You can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and browse the web, etc. By comparison, the Meta Quest Pro is more like a WEARABLE CHROMEBOOK. Obviously this product isn't targeted at average consumers (hence the price) BUT society in general has demonstrated for decades that they are willing to pay a premium for entertainment especially if it's life-changing or impactful. The people who are complaining about the price are NOT the target audience for this headset and they were never planning on buying it to begin with so why complain?? Because they're miserable in life and just want something new to complain about? 😑 One's enjoyment of a product should be based on the experience it provides and NOT the price one paid for it. If you got this headset for free then chances are you would be praising how awesome it is and/or that it has transformed the way you consume entertainment. If Apple suddenly told you to pay $3,500+Tax for it then suddenly it's not worth it?? 😂😂😂 Also keep in mind that it's a one-time fee and not some recurring monthly service that you keep paying for like Netflix, Game Pass, Spotify, or access to use the heated car seats on a BMW car, etc. If people can waste money on a daily $7-$8 Starbucks coffee 5 days a week or $15 cocktails at a bar, they can instead save that money and put it towards something more expensive that they want that lasts way longer like a $400 PS5 or a $2,500 QD-OLED TV or whatever they want no matter the price. Just saying...
I thought the price was a little high but realized I can start saving up for it right now and, when it comes out, it’s not going to break my wallet at all.
As usual, I completely agree with David (1:08:53). Tim Cook has all but stated this publicly before this launch. This is supposed to be reality, with additional features, and potentially more, IF YOU WANT IT
You could always make any webpage a desktop icon with Safari before. This new features just makes it a more polished look with a better icon and more descoverable than just dragging from the URL bar of Safari.
24:40 on Apple TV there is no Looping Point, or is it? Always thought these clips are so long and then they just show you one after the other, am I right?
Please give more attention to the game feature and the metal translation layer. It is based on Open source code developed by crossover and wine. It is actually the system used by the Steam deck, proton is wine tweaked for games. The big catch in Apple translation layer is that they can now use direct x12, which enables the possibility of playing these newer titles. That's an awesome feature, that I think not many people are not aware
@@dragonite4242 exactly. At least with call screen you can deal with spam a lot easier. And I don't remember the last time I got a voicemail from a family member.
I kinda like the record feature ngl. In today's world, the dad just holds the mobile camera in his hand without being in the moment. But with the headset, he could just turn on record and focus on the moment.
@@RoyRosales hopefully a time will come when having the headgear on is not considered wierd. Like people today walk around with their headphones on though people from just 30 years before would have thought it looks wierd.
There's this company in NYC/SanFran WHOS NAME IS SPATIAL and has been pioneering Spatial computing for the last 7 years. (I work for them) And we've been doing so much of what Apple showed in their keynote for YEARS.
I think the 3D immersive video would be perfect if it came to iphone. We already have multiple lenses and radar too. I think this would be more socially acceptable than wearing the headset to take pics.
I think the vision pro battery is a special connector because the headset needs to know the charge left in the battery pack. So there’s data going through it too
The Apple Watch has sensors that can detect your fingers pinching together I wonder if they will be able to pull that response data to allow you to click without the cameras seeing or is the window big enough to not even worry about it? Maybe pulling the Apple Watch into view you can get a hologram type screen to interact with like we’re living Phil of the Future life.
Im honestly scared of a future that everyone is just on vr home all day but I think this will be as life changing as the iPhone, and will eventually be in everyone’s home just like an iPhone. iPhones were expensive at first but now everyone has one
Or they appreciate the tech involved (inb4 you start yammering on about all the other headsets). Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean everyone else is obligated to have the same views lmao
honestly, I love the recording feature of the vision pro. In the near future, I guess this will be so accepted that people without a headset in an occasion will be socially outcasted. Also, its not that far from a person holding a DSLR video camera nowadays. Just let someone else wear the headset and capture the video if you wanna be in the shot as well. But more honestly, it gives me flashback to the black mirror episode where you have a chip inside your brain that can rewind memories. This might be the start of that .
Loving the thumbnail! Also totally excited for the update! And there is an Empire Game tomorrow! Hope to see it in person if work will allow. Thanks to the team and Marques for working so hard to get this content out for all us to experience WWDC vicariously. - Official Lauren Brown
Honestly, I think that the way that kids so quickly adapt to their environments, seeing their parent wearing a headset to record everything is not going to seem so odd. I think of it similar to when individual families started using camcorders to record birthdays and special events, etc. Remember: There was this giant hunk of metal held in front of the “squinting parent staring down a “tube,” usually a dad, but also possibly a mom, or any other parental identifier. And people got used to it. The public loved the memories they could re-experience from that recording - especially because the second display facing outwards (for Apple) shows where the recording eyes are landing. The people being recorded can know if they are in the visual narrative or not, and they can say, “hey XYZ record this”, “look over there”. So they can actually feel like they’re a part of this process. Whereas, before, it would have been hard to know what perspective the person recording would show in final film. So, even if at the time it seems disruptive, the headset (Apple’s and Others’) will likely be seen as just a more modern, immersive, recording device/experience - much like how Super8 and camcorders were. /end - Official Lauren Brown
Imagine the Vision Pro but with something integrated into it like Neuralink, where you could feel haptics and other physical things. It would be crazy if something like that could be made real eventually.
Imagine Neuralink APP gets launch at the same time it goes on sell next year!!! Besides that, Imagine using a drone going over the grand canyon and linked with Vision Pro !!! I feel some crazy killer apps will arrive next year that will blow our minds.
i thimk brain implants will be tbe eventual end of these wearables, it’ll be a permanent chip in your brain, connected to the internet, that gives you all of the same functionality
Is it good for $3500 though? Also, what’s it’s intended purpose even? PlayStation vr 2 got so much heat because they didn’t have enough games . The only thing it seems you can do his shuffle through it’s user interface and watch maybe a a 2 hr movie. Google’s cardboard box vr when they released it to android does the same thing for a free.
I think we disagree. When I see apples device, I see a phone for your eyes. Literally the iPhone. Meta isn’t focused on getting you to wear VR 24/7. It’s more about the experiences. I think apple was smart to throw all the tech in there and go hands free. But I can’t see a closed ecosystem being the holy grail. I’m not interested in a phone product built for my eyes. I was hoping for an all new type of experience.. but the most obvious solution is usually the one that gains a chunk of market share and apple is sticking to what’s familiar.
@@Keepitcivil_ And you think the FB option isn't a closed system either? I'd argue the eyes displaying outside itself of Apple Vision makes it much more of "social" experience than Meta's. I get that it looks "creepy," but at least it indicates to the outside world of "awareness" of the user - something that's completely blank from the Meta option (as well as everyone else). Also, Meta has still yet to show how it shares "outside" with "inside" in terms of awareness - something that Apple has made attempts in doing that no one else in the space has. Again, I sorta "get" why you think Meta is more "social," but considering their moves - it's completely made things more distant between humans than Apple has. I actually think Apple has completely "outdone" Meta.
Haven't even began watching but what a cursed thumbnail😂😂
Tim had a vision lmao
@@Waveform is this pun intended? 🤔
@@Waveform lmao😂😂😂😂😂
Can’t watch for a few days but came here to say this - this is probably my favorite thumbnail I’ve seen in YEARS
That's the first thing I thought when I seen that "god that looks creepy"😂
You guys should buy 3 ,Vision Pros and have an episode of Waveform shot completely in this Facetime 😅
this is such a good idea please do this
I also approve this message.
That’s more than 10K 😂
That's a great idea , but they only did it with mkbhd with vpro.😢
Almost 2 hour Waveform podcast??? Let's go!!!!
Someone is trying to compete with the WAN Show
Let-‘sa-goooooo
@@flavious27 5 hour wan show tonight
Vision Pro discussion starts at 1:06:20
Thanks
Cheers
thank god for you
God bless you
Literally why I exist in this comment thread 😅
As soon as I saw Mac Pro announcement, I was relieved for Marques.
@@hollyc5417 weird need to throw your negativity under the comment of someone you don’t know but ok.
@@hollyc5417 this comment is way more cringe lol
@@hollyc5417 I think you misspelled "Karen" in your name.
@@TheP0dcaster apparently no one can be happy for famous people lmao
@@hollyc5417 imagine being so deluded by yourself you forgot how socialization works
Can't believe I said, "Damn, this is going to be a good episode to wash the dishes to."
Adulting sucks
Dishes and waveform is a vibe
Tell me about it 😂😂😂. I still regret not renting an apartment with a built-in dishwasher.
I sincerely hope it doesn't take the whole episode to wash your dishes tho
“Damn, this will be a good episode to raise my kids to” 😂
I made lunch to the first 40 minutes 🫶
I was actually going through my old 3ds and I was blown away by the memories on there in 3D. it was weird how it was a gimmick at the time but now it's just that the memories have depth forever.
The highlight of my work day on Fridays is when i get the notification that there's a new episode
I know I will be be enjoying this video for the next 1 hour. Much love from South Africa 🇿🇦
The worst part is iOS used to allow interactive widgets but they removed it when they moved widgets onto the Home Screen
Watching on Apple Vision Pro
Can we come over
David at 30:04 😂😂 I’m a robot, please talk. 😂
That got me😂
Y'all seem to be having so much fun together lately. Love this new energy!
Can’t agree more
The part of the keynote where the dad was recording the birthday celebration 😂😂😂 Imagine the POV of the rest of the family
Interesting point
Yeah. Thou if you think about what’s happening now, it’s often the back of a phone you’re seeing now. So unsure which is worse.
@@sdchew Exactly. At least with VP you're actually looking at your kids instead of a phone.
So like holding your camera in front of your face when taking a video?
That was the saddest part of the presentation.
With the Apple Vision Pro, when you get up and start moving, if you were in full immersion, it fades to the real world for you to see where you are walking. Once you stop moving, it reimmerses you.
Considering VR Unity games can also be ported to it, hopefully that can be turned off for roomscale games
@@Albertbz That is a good question. I would think that would be an option, however it is Apple we are talking about so...we'll have to wait and see.
The reveal would have been, mind blowing if they did it live. I miss Steve Job's presentations. They felt more energetic.
Jteve Sobs 😢
An AR/VR headset doesn't work for a live reveal because they can't actually convey to you what the device is like.
The video they showed can only go so far towards trying to explain what the device is but people have to wear it to truly understand.
LIVE…??? How do you present an AR headset live when people can’t see what you see properly.
The New format is fine and looks clean and professional.
@@powerhouse884 actually people can see what you see in AR presentations…but I prefer what apple did
Being someone who has watched every Apple Keynote ever, I like the new formats way better. More engaging, more entertaining, more information and more accessible to more people. Do I think there is room for a hybrid style, something that brings a little more for those who attend, like live introductions of each section with some quick samples, then 75% of it being video, then a closing with a high profile band giving something for the crowd...yeah, that would be cool too.
Everytime David is on the podcast, my day is great. His face on the thumbnail is everything
I been waiting for this !! Finally , kicking back & tuning in !!
Does anyone remember the old 'BUMP' app, where you could share documents, contacts etc just by bumping your phone together? I STILL miss that app to this day and the new namedrop feature reminds me a lot of that.
Yep, I still think "This would be a way simpler with Bump" when trading numbers or PDFs with someone. I miss it.
Yeah I literally thought of this straight away 😂
Yup it got sherlocked hard
No joke, Apple TV screensavers are mesmerising. More than a few times I've just gotten lost watching them slowly fly along (or 'swim' in the neat underwater ones), studying what's there and what's happening. I love that I'll be able to get them on my computer too.
That's marques' favorite feature from the MacOS section haha
Long Podcast episode and bonus trivia episode??? We’re dining good this week
I low-key love the idea about having facetime on the Apple TV. Will 100% be using it!
Why is this something you'd want to use? Seems silly to me when you have your phone on hand or an iPad.
@@Broba_Fett Most of the time my wife and I are FaceTiming with family and it’d be nicer to be able to have it mounted somewhere so that both of us can talk without having weird angles or keep moving the phone to whoever is talking. Similar reasons to why you would want a webcam on your computer for Zoom calls instead of having to be handheld the whole time.
The reverse eye passthrough was super conflicting for me but the more I think about it, I like it. The cost and weight is unnecessary, but giving the people around you a window into your receptivity is compelling. When demoing VR to my friends I always felt weird interacting with them when in the headset. I imagine people feel weird interacting with me when I'm in VR. This is a great middle ground. It has a cost but it makes sense.
19:08 the old widget feature in macOS was called Dashboard, which was introduced in 10.4 Tiger and deprecated in 10.10 Yosemite in favor of Notification Center. There's a good overview in Wikipedia under the page title "Dashboard (macOS)"
With Love from South Africa 🇿🇦❤ (1st team)
Same!
Yo great job and all, but from the perspective of a deaf person, i appreciate you guys going above and beyond for captions, that made me happy :)
Prediction: in a near future version of iOS they introduce the ability to take 3D photos with your iPhone. Like the panorama it will prompt you to take photos from two different vantage points and will stitch the photos together and smooth out the differences to make a 3D photo you can view through the headset
Or one of the cameras will be on the opposite side of the phone so when you enable 3D pic mode, it take two pics at once and makes a light depth effect you can truly enjoy in vision os. Maybe even use a bit of Live Photos to fill in more depth data for the picture.
I would definitely love that. For now I hope that you can at least see 360 photos from other cameras
I completely agree, @David Wych! I predict iPhone 16 or 17 may either add a 3D photo mode - or - actually add another lens to the opposite corner of the phone to take proper 3D photos. It makes perfect sense so that all of your photos & videos are true 3D to be enjoyed on all future generations of Vision headsets. It would be great to build a library of 3D photos & videos *now*, because reliving them in the future will be more emotionally powerful in 3D. (It’s kind of like when Apple introduced 4K video recording a while ago, even when many people didn’t yet own 4K TVs or 4K Apple TVs. When you build your personal library at a higher quality, you will eventually appreciate your precious memories when you have improved tech.)
I believe Apple might have already have plan for that. They could probably make use of the LiDAR or true depth sensor to achieve similar of kind 3D effect. With icloud photo sharing, the photos/videos you taken in other devices, I am sure it will be accessible by the headset as well.
Well, congrats on your prediction !
51:39 Very slick Ad Placement 😄
Banger thumbnail + Marques’ hot take was spot on.
54:30 right now I’m at a transition point where, when I’m feeling a bit tired I won’t take them out and just put it in transparency mode when ordering something at a coffee shop or restaurant
I don’t know how to communicate this to you guys, but the version of the podcast you just uploaded to Apple podcasts is last weeks podcast over again. I think you uploaded the wrong file. The problem will probably be fixed before you even see this comment but I had to try.
Same problem on Spotify too
44:38 Standby - I wonder if the Belkin iPhone Mount with MagSafe for Mac Notebooks would trigger Standby. Then the phone can be placed anywhere you have a flat surface using the ring stand. Does it need to be charging or just connected to a MagSafe accessory?
Oh, they did say it has to be charging. Pity.
That thumbnail going to haunt all our dreams 😂
Yes
Man I love this team. Ellis too of course! Best tech podcast no doubt
I feel like everyone forgot about Dashboard widgets. Those were awesome, and you could eventually move them to the desktop if you knew how.
That thumbnail! 😂
I can start seeing the memes already. 😂… if they’re all ready going. 😅
"Sorry for you trivia lovers"
Ya'll gave us an entire trivia bonus episode you're good!
If you're reading this David, I feel like everything you predict or every rationale that you give for why anyone did anything is just spot on!! Really appreciate it man!! 👍🏻👍🏻
❤
Based on the handful of reviews and podcasts I've now heard about the Vision Pro, setting aside the price, it really does sound amazing. It also sounds like something you can't "unexperience" (if that makes sense) once you've tried it if you have any history at all with other headsets.
Btw, that light meter example was exactly what I thought of as an app you almost never use but is so handy when you need it.
1:00:44 Andrew looks like a disapproving dad for second when David swears and it’s hilarious. Thanks, studio Dad!
19:20 The Dashboard was what Marques talking about, remember that so well, you even have Dashcode of Xcode for coding those widgets
And I think David was talking about mission control when he said control centre.
1:36:00 One thing nobody mentioned is how to handle the transition from plugged into the wall to using the battery pack. Wouldn't the headset turn off when you unplug? So you'll have to keep turning the unit off to switch between wall plugged and battery plugged.
1:06:21 Apple Vision Pro conversation. 👍
You guys uploaded the wrong file to Spotify for this week!
When this thumbnail becomes a reality, we will know we are officially 2 weeks away from Vision Pro Release lol
Watching you guys on my Quest 2. I'm stoked Apple is getting in the game of VR! I'm totally stoked to get the Quest 3!
Isn’t this the longest ever WVFRM episode?
I think so..it sure felt like it in the edit lol
@@Waveform
WVFRM: Oh no, a two hour podcast is it too long?
WAN: 3+ hour shows on the regular, audience asking 24 hour show when
Love the show
I love what you all do and thank you so dang much for all the awesome content.
I think that Journal is being overlooked, but not because of the app. To me, Journal feels like a demo product for the "Suggestions API," which is a channel to personal curated experiences that many apps could potentially use (with permission).
I subscribed for the podcast episode with the doctor! Seems extremely interesting.
I was so happy when they announced MacPro on WWDC. I personally don't care but I know how much you wanted it Marques :D
Disney + Unity collab with Apple was cool too 🔥
The call screening feature on the Pixel is *the* reason why I haven't switched to a different line of phones. It is the perfect tool for any time when you are receiving a call from a phone number you don't recognize. It has virtually eliminated spam phone calls for me.
It's so clutch
Exactly. Idk why they tried to make it sound bad compared to the live transcription of the voicemails.
The simultaneous “yeah” at 1:32:40 killed me 🤣
That thumbnail is one of the greatest things known to mankind. Truly revolutionizing the podcasting world guys, congrats.
This video in particular was edited really well!
I say the following as an Android/Windows user:
Some people don't seem to understand that Apple Vision Pro is more than "just a headset". It's a WEARABLE MACBOOK with desktop performance that can replace a laptop for many if not most people. You don't need an iPhone, iPad, or Macbook to use it. You can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and browse the web, etc. By comparison, the Meta Quest Pro is more like a WEARABLE CHROMEBOOK.
Obviously this product isn't targeted at average consumers (hence the price) BUT society in general has demonstrated for decades that they are willing to pay a premium for entertainment especially if it's life-changing or impactful.
The people who are complaining about the price are NOT the target audience for this headset and they were never planning on buying it to begin with so why complain?? Because they're miserable in life and just want something new to complain about? 😑
One's enjoyment of a product should be based on the experience it provides and NOT the price one paid for it.
If you got this headset for free then chances are you would be praising how awesome it is and/or that it has transformed the way you consume entertainment.
If Apple suddenly told you to pay $3,500+Tax for it then suddenly it's not worth it?? 😂😂😂
Also keep in mind that it's a one-time fee and not some recurring monthly service that you keep paying for like Netflix, Game Pass, Spotify, or access to use the heated car seats on a BMW car, etc.
If people can waste money on a daily $7-$8 Starbucks coffee 5 days a week or $15 cocktails at a bar, they can instead save that money and put it towards something more expensive that they want that lasts way longer like a $400 PS5 or a $2,500 QD-OLED TV or whatever they want no matter the price.
Just saying...
I thought the price was a little high but realized I can start saving up for it right now and, when it comes out, it’s not going to break my wallet at all.
I heard that you need to use an iPhone to setup the headset.
As usual, I completely agree with David (1:08:53). Tim Cook has all but stated this publicly before this launch. This is supposed to be reality, with additional features, and potentially more, IF YOU WANT IT
It's been a while since I've been this excited for an episode 😂
Much love to everyone at WVFRM! ❤
1:26:28 Good to know the pass through really is that good, that’s what’ll make or break this for mainstream users. So excited to try it.
You could always make any webpage a desktop icon with Safari before. This new features just makes it a more polished look with a better icon and more descoverable than just dragging from the URL bar of Safari.
24:40 on Apple TV there is no Looping Point, or is it?
Always thought these clips are so long and then they just show you one after the other, am I right?
Please give more attention to the game feature and the metal translation layer. It is based on Open source code developed by crossover and wine. It is actually the system used by the Steam deck, proton is wine tweaked for games. The big catch in Apple translation layer is that they can now use direct x12, which enables the possibility of playing these newer titles. That's an awesome feature, that I think not many people are not aware
Could that be used to run PCVR games on the Vision Pro?
37:47 you could already put stickers on any part of the message
The difference with Apple voicemail is that if you don’t answer when reading the transcript it still ends up in your voicemail
I mean you end up with the transcript with the pixel as well in voicemail
@@dragonite4242 exactly. At least with call screen you can deal with spam a lot easier. And I don't remember the last time I got a voicemail from a family member.
44:39 but MagSafe is Orientation agnostic, so I wonder do I need two chargers one for portrait and one for landscape?
All I wanted for ipadOS was being able to format external drives in files
Can confirm the continuity camera with the Apple TV is my family’s #1 favorite thing from the WWDC event that included the announcement of Vision Pro
Great podcast
Really enjoyed the thoughtful commentary from the two guys in frame together, and as usual, from Marques…
I think the “if you’re the dad with the headset” talk is only valid for us, for kids who are born into this sort of tech it will be normal
The thumbnail : the Internet in the past two days 😂
I kinda like the record feature ngl. In today's world, the dad just holds the mobile camera in his hand without being in the moment. But with the headset, he could just turn on record and focus on the moment.
Gotta be weird to the rest of the fam, butttt yeah you have a point for sure.
@@RoyRosalesthe fact that they can all also watch now watch the moment the way he does will counter that
Or you can record a moment with your phone but actually look at the moment without staring at your phone while you are recording
@@RoyRosales hopefully a time will come when having the headgear on is not considered wierd. Like people today walk around with their headphones on though people from just 30 years before would have thought it looks wierd.
Love this podcast, glad I found it recently
There's this company in NYC/SanFran WHOS NAME IS SPATIAL and has been pioneering Spatial computing for the last 7 years. (I work for them) And we've been doing so much of what Apple showed in their keynote for YEARS.
Keep going, we need the competition. Can't let Apple control the industry. Or the other tech giants.
Surprised Spatial is not suing Apple
Yeah! How does this work?? If you release your product now, won't Apple sue you for it?
Also, does this company make software or hardware??
@@subodhgarg5531 yeah, I'm try to figure out how they put +5000 patents in it if VR has been worked on for so long.
Nah that thumbnail is crazy 😂
I think the 3D immersive video would be perfect if it came to iphone. We already have multiple lenses and radar too. I think this would be more socially acceptable than wearing the headset to take pics.
Yap, so true!
I think the LiDAR would need to be higher resolution or possibly need a second camera distanced apart in a stereo pair, or both.
Vision will be changing the game. I haven’t looked forward to a device in years.
The entire Studio will be using Vision within 2 years, I'm calling it now.
plz don't wish this on us
@@Waveform Only if they're all willing to take salary cuts lmao😂
This daily walk is about to be PERFECT 👌🏼
I think the vision pro battery is a special connector because the headset needs to know the charge left in the battery pack. So there’s data going through it too
This is a ducking good episode
The Apple Watch has sensors that can detect your fingers pinching together I wonder if they will be able to pull that response data to allow you to click without the cameras seeing or is the window big enough to not even worry about it? Maybe pulling the Apple Watch into view you can get a hologram type screen to interact with like we’re living Phil of the Future life.
Great point!
Actually you bringing up the watch makes me think that that's where they could put the haptics
@@Chrisratata Add a click to my worlds tiniest violin finger taps
1:02:39 when Andrew starts talking about his golf swing 😂
Im honestly scared of a future that everyone is just on vr home all day but I think this will be as life changing as the iPhone, and will eventually be in everyone’s home just like an iPhone. iPhones were expensive at first but now everyone has one
The dude on the far left is such an apple fan boy 😂
Oh, the poor souls! They're nothing but a bunch of Apple fanatics, locked in their allegiance
Or they appreciate the tech involved (inb4 you start yammering on about all the other headsets). Just because YOU don't like something doesn't mean everyone else is obligated to have the same views lmao
The thumbnail is fire.
Edit: Bro, 💀 I can’t stop laughing.
honestly, I love the recording feature of the vision pro. In the near future, I guess this will be so accepted that people without a headset in an occasion will be socially outcasted. Also, its not that far from a person holding a DSLR video camera nowadays. Just let someone else wear the headset and capture the video if you wanna be in the shot as well.
But more honestly, it gives me flashback to the black mirror episode where you have a chip inside your brain that can rewind memories. This might be the start of that .
Lmao the synchronized faces when talking about golfing was golden 😂😂😂
Where is ellis?
He's taking a well-earned vacation!
If he is out next week too then add Brandon or someone else from the studio to that seat
That's 👍
49:00 we had this in a previous version of iOS, they removed the ability 😒. It only worked on the lock screen widget screen.
Loving the thumbnail! Also totally excited for the update! And there is an Empire Game tomorrow! Hope to see it in person if work will allow. Thanks to the team and Marques for working so hard to get this content out for all us to experience WWDC vicariously.
- Official Lauren Brown
Honestly, I think that the way that kids so quickly adapt to their environments, seeing their parent wearing a headset to record everything is not going to seem so odd. I think of it similar to when individual families started using camcorders to record birthdays and special events, etc. Remember: There was this giant hunk of metal held in front of the “squinting parent staring down a “tube,” usually a dad, but also possibly a mom, or any other parental identifier. And people got used to it.
The public loved the memories they could re-experience from that recording - especially because the second display facing outwards (for Apple) shows where the recording eyes are landing. The people being recorded can know if they are in the visual narrative or not, and they can say, “hey XYZ record this”, “look over there”. So they can actually feel like they’re a part of this process. Whereas, before, it would have been hard to know what perspective the person recording would show in final film. So, even if at the time it seems disruptive, the headset (Apple’s and Others’) will likely be seen as just a more modern, immersive, recording device/experience - much like how Super8 and camcorders were.
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- Official Lauren Brown
@@officiallaurenbrown Chill bro, also news flash you can edit yt comments/replies
I think you're right tho
Your podcast gets me through my boring work day!
Imagine the Vision Pro but with something integrated into it like Neuralink, where you could feel haptics and other physical things. It would be crazy if something like that could be made real eventually.
maybe thats why elon musk was at apple park 🧐
Imagine Neuralink APP gets launch at the same time it goes on sell next year!!! Besides that, Imagine using a drone going over the grand canyon and linked with Vision Pro !!! I feel some crazy killer apps will arrive next year that will blow our minds.
i thimk brain implants will be tbe eventual end of these wearables, it’ll be a permanent chip in your brain, connected to the internet, that gives you all of the same functionality
Let me get the angle let me get the angle 😂😂😂😂😂
Throw widgets around the screen wherever with Sonoma. Imagine being able to put app icons wherever you want on your iPhone.
14:00 “how would I know that” I’ve never laughed so hard
😂😂😂
Apple is trying really hard to get influencers to push this vr headset.
Apple products push themselves! I’ve seen so many people not even into tech talking about this it’s crazy!
Or maybe it’s actually good?
Is it good for $3500 though?
Also, what’s it’s intended purpose even? PlayStation vr 2 got so much heat because they didn’t have enough games . The only thing it seems you can do his shuffle through it’s user interface and watch maybe a a 2 hr movie. Google’s cardboard box vr when they released it to android does the same thing for a free.
@@rsbkey It’s a computer
Meta is trying to make people social. Apple is looking to isolate people. Very interesting routes they’re both taking.
I’d argue the exact opposite. It seems like meta is trying to be more social, but their options actually distances people from each other.
and metas metaverse is dying, good luck trying with a shitty headset lol
I think we disagree. When I see apples device, I see a phone for your eyes. Literally the iPhone. Meta isn’t focused on getting you to wear VR 24/7. It’s more about the experiences. I think apple was smart to throw all the tech in there and go hands free. But I can’t see a closed ecosystem being the holy grail. I’m not interested in a phone product built for my eyes. I was hoping for an all new type of experience.. but the most obvious solution is usually the one that gains a chunk of market share and apple is sticking to what’s familiar.
How is Meta's offering more social than the Vision Pro?
@@Keepitcivil_ And you think the FB option isn't a closed system either? I'd argue the eyes displaying outside itself of Apple Vision makes it much more of "social" experience than Meta's. I get that it looks "creepy," but at least it indicates to the outside world of "awareness" of the user - something that's completely blank from the Meta option (as well as everyone else). Also, Meta has still yet to show how it shares "outside" with "inside" in terms of awareness - something that Apple has made attempts in doing that no one else in the space has.
Again, I sorta "get" why you think Meta is more "social," but considering their moves - it's completely made things more distant between humans than Apple has. I actually think Apple has completely "outdone" Meta.