I can already tell you it’s going to be vastly inferior. A converter is just analogue to digital and the Wii has tons of filters built in that make the image worse. You’d need a retrotink in between to make the image better, but even then it won’t stop the wii filters as it comes out through analogue
Brother, I welcome you back to these console Mod Fridays, what a beauty of modification, the Wii is a great console and with these Mods it is honestly impressive.
This actually looks like it would be right up my alley when I can afford to get the parts necessary. I have limited soldering experience but I feel confident that this would be a good first console hard mod for me.
This is a hard one without some good soldering experience and a magnifying lens. Definitely get some practice with surface mount soldering before jumping in
I appreciate you saying that@@LIRetroGaming! I should have mentioned I've got a practice soldering board on my wish list for when I move forward with this mod to get me up to speed. I haven't done much soldering since high school but I'm always looking to learn more.
Yes! I was waiting for another digital-to-digital solution after the Wii Dual years back. I’m also waiting for homebrew devs to improve the scaling on the Wii U’s vWii since it’s not nearest or integer but it is digital 1080p.
Another option is to just get a Wii U which has a native hdmi port. It's already a full blown Wii, then you get the perks of Wii U games and you can still soft mod it all the way. Only downside is that it won't have the gamecube controller ports.
@@jlchips Yeah but I look at the console as more of a glorified HD Wii. Yeah most of its games are on switch, but the real value is in the wii, ganecube, gameboy advance, DS, N64, Playstation, Snes, and Nes games available to you by modding the console.
@@ChfHappySack I already have the capability to play Wii, GC, and DS games. Not to mention that a majority of N64, SNES, and NES games are available through NS Online already. And as for the other ones, there ain’t no good games for those consoles, too simple and primitive.
One can have a nightmare getting into a Wii with all those screws. I opened my Wii once to clean the fan and the insides, I can't say I enjoyed the experience. I put the screws all along a piece of tape in order of removal.
I bought a faulty Wii for fun once, opened it up, and wow there's many screws. Didn't find any shorts or anything and screwed it back up, only getting every screw in the right place was a win for me 🤣
Does this require the Homebrew channel or can this HDMI mod be done to a non-homebrew modded Wii? Love the fact that you use manual tools to cutout the location for the HDMI port. Dremel often gets away from you and makes things worse.
Is this higher quality than a Wii to HDMI adapter though?? And I don't mean those offbrand Amazon ones, I mean the Mayflash one which is actually really good. I don't wanna waste 200 dollars or however much it is (yes I saw that it's $120 but for the installation service it's more. I can't install this myself).
Mayflash is going to look very good. Technically this should be better because this is purely digital, whereas the Mayflash is an analog to digital conversion. But I have not compared these options side by side
Why do you switch between leaded and unleaded solder? Is there a benefit to unleaded in certain cases? EDIT: never mind I see someone else asked it and you answered. Thanks again for the great tutorial.
Would be really cool is if you could convert it to USB-C and even run PD through it aswell. Then its just one cable to a Modern USB C monitor with Charging to power the Wii.
That would be pretty cool, although I think the Wii needs 5v and also 12v to run properly. It might be tricky to do that with usb-c which I think only has +5v
Does the original component output still work simultaneously with the HDMI mod installed? My plan is to have the HDMI go to my capture card and have the Original Component go to my TV. Will that work or is the Component no longer functional with this mod installed?
Quick question. I have Wii component cables. Is there a benefit to doing this mod if I have cables that also put out 480p or is it pretty much the same?
Depends on your wii model. Wii outputs slightly worse than the gamecube because of some mis-configuration in the wii that can be fixed with homebrewing it. Wii HDMI mods bypasses that and you have the convenience of having an hdmi port on your wii.
@@samuraivader3814 I looked into it and it’s usually an option that needs to be enabled in every piece of homebrew that supports it such as some emulators. I’m not sure if it works for disc games but it is supported in backup loaders such as USBLoaderGX. Cool.
I'm in the process of making a wiitop lol old 16in laptop I pulled the guts out of because it'll be a nice form factor to play wiil on my biggest problem atm is powering it off batties there is a top of space internally but I have no idea where to start 16in screen plus wii. What components do I need to power it and have the batteries rechargeable internally for at minimum 4hrs I don't mind spending some money to have a portable setup I just don't know how much about adapting batteries to a task like this. Also removed keyboard and TouchPad replacing with copper or aluminum sheet to add to the cooling system.
Does this mod disable the native video port? The kit description mentions "HDMI only" curious if that meant only one output at a time or if we would loose composite output entirely.
no, but it also doesn't add RGB/YPbPr (depending on the region of the wii) like the wiidual, although that is a really minor issue considering the wii already supports the one that is more widely available in the region it was sold.
The older pure digital HDMI mod only worked on later-model Wiis. Is this new chip compatible with launch and older model Wiis. If so, I'm definitely interested as I own two 👍👍
I don't remember hearing anyone mention either removing lead-free solder, or using it with mods like these. Is it a personal preference thing such as soldering temps, or is attempting to mix the 2 different solders bad practice?
It’s not good practice to mix leaded and lead free. Eventually they separate and the solder joints crack. So if there’s lead-free on the board, you either have to stick with lead free or desolder the lead free and replace with leaded. Personally I hate dealing with lead free so that’s why I removed it in the video
@@LIRetroGaming Thanks for the info. I feel like a lot of install videos don't mention this. Is there a list of consoles that use lead free, or a sure way to tell? Wondering about installs such as N64 digital DC digital GCDual etc.
Does installing the ave-hdmi keep the function of the analog port? Ie similar to the wii dual were you can use both been looking for a replacement for the wii dual so I can output component 480p to a crt and hdmi to a capture card/modern display
I have an installed wii as this. The 480p output sharpness is better than component upscalling to hdmi via ossc. The kit also can output RGBs. However, the wii main screen looks blur due to default rendering. Anyone knows how to adjust this at system menu and wii game?
@@LIRetroGaming I mean o have a pretty basic one but I don't know what to look for to be sure that the tips would be smaller than the one I already have..
Man I want a wii hdmi mod SOOOO bad! Why is no one manufacturing/selling them somewhere in europe so I don't have to pay ridiculous shipping and import prices?
@@LIRetroGaming Or you can order pcbs and assemble one yourself, it is fairly manageable to do, none of the components require hot air or a reflow oven or anything like that, but it is tedious. I have done it before, it wasn't too bad. Also, the jumper on the board is used for programming the firmware to flash in circuit, it needs to be closed to do the programming and open to actually use the system, so your source probably just didn't clear it after programming the firmware.
@@coopercummings8370 I know I could do that. I would consider myself to be very good at soldering so that's not the issue. I just don't trust myself to order the correct components and I trust myself even less to flash the firmware onto fpga. I've never done the latter and I'm sure I would need additional hardware to flash and that's all just to much for me. I'd rather just buy a finished product to install myself.
How does the graphic compared to Wii Dual? the graphic on wii dual is underwhelming. I have a PS1 HDMI mod. Wii dual mod is a great technical achievement but compared to the Dreamcast HDMI/PS1 Digital solution it's lacking in output option. If wii dual offers 960p native or within a boxed 1080p signal as well then it'd be fantastic
It’s the exact same video output as the dual, so it’s only 480p. If this is paired with a scaler like the retrotink 5X, then you could get a much nicer 960p result
The video quality is more crisp and the aspect ratio is correct whereas there is issues with both of these on a Wii U. Voultar has a few comparisons of the two on twitter
My hot take on the Wii: Yeah, it sold well. But a majority of those ended up rotting in nursing homes, with no other games than just Wii Sports and Wii Fit. It wasn't a good console.
I forgot to mention this in the video, but it has been discovered that the Wii U has some issues with accurately displaying Wii games. Apparently the aspect ratio and the colors are a little bit off when compared to an original wii
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Would be interesting to see how this native HDMI solution compares against a well made component to hdmi adapter.
Yeah I really need to try that comparison
I can already tell you it’s going to be vastly inferior. A converter is just analogue to digital and the Wii has tons of filters built in that make the image worse. You’d need a retrotink in between to make the image better, but even then it won’t stop the wii filters as it comes out through analogue
@@LIRetroGaming And what about a Wii-specific HDMI adapter (specifically the Mayflash one as it's the best on the market right now)
You dont need a component to hdmi. There’s literally a wii2hdmi adapter already. Its been out for a decade lol
@@whispersmusic6173 Those are cheaply made though, don’t just get a cheap Wii2HDMI get the Mayflash one it’s actually nice
I use a WiiDual for this purpose but as they're out of production, I'm thrilled there's an alternative on the market now!
Thanks for featuring my console in your video! I am really happy with the results!
Brother, I welcome you back to these console Mod Fridays, what a beauty of modification, the Wii is a great console and with these Mods it is honestly impressive.
Thanks brother, always appreciated
Hey man - look forward to your videos every Friday! Thanks for doing everything you do for the community - keep up the good work!
Thanks man, I appreciate the support!
This actually looks like it would be right up my alley when I can afford to get the parts necessary. I have limited soldering experience but I feel confident that this would be a good first console hard mod for me.
This is a hard one without some good soldering experience and a magnifying lens. Definitely get some practice with surface mount soldering before jumping in
I appreciate you saying that@@LIRetroGaming! I should have mentioned I've got a practice soldering board on my wish list for when I move forward with this mod to get me up to speed. I haven't done much soldering since high school but I'm always looking to learn more.
Yes! I was waiting for another digital-to-digital solution after the Wii Dual years back. I’m also waiting for homebrew devs to improve the scaling on the Wii U’s vWii since it’s not nearest or integer but it is digital 1080p.
Yeah I’m hoping that the vWii can be fixed as well
Good to see you back!
Thanks! It’s good to be back
Much better than to look for cheap off-brand Wii2HDMI adapters
Another option is to just get a Wii U which has a native hdmi port. It's already a full blown Wii, then you get the perks of Wii U games and you can still soft mod it all the way. Only downside is that it won't have the gamecube controller ports.
Yeah that’s a good option for Wii games as well
Most/all of the good Wii U games have already been ported to the Switch.
@@jlchips Yeah but I look at the console as more of a glorified HD Wii. Yeah most of its games are on switch, but the real value is in the wii, ganecube, gameboy advance, DS, N64, Playstation, Snes, and Nes games available to you by modding the console.
@@ChfHappySack I already have the capability to play Wii, GC, and DS games. Not to mention that a majority of N64, SNES, and NES games are available through NS Online already. And as for the other ones, there ain’t no good games for those consoles, too simple and primitive.
@@jlchips lol ok, well good for you and you're entitled to your opinion. Good day.
ooooooh yes one of these is gonna be on the list for my old Wii
Still hoping at some point someone makes an HDMI mod for the 1chip SNES....
Yeah I hope that an hdmi mod is possible for the snes one day
One can have a nightmare getting into a Wii with all those screws. I opened my Wii once to clean the fan and the insides, I can't say I enjoyed the experience. I put the screws all along a piece of tape in order of removal.
I bought a faulty Wii for fun once, opened it up, and wow there's many screws. Didn't find any shorts or anything and screwed it back up, only getting every screw in the right place was a win for me 🤣
Yes, it’s easily a 20 minute ordeal and very easy to lose track of screws. I like that tape idea though, very clever!
I need this HDMI mod..... one of the only ones I don't have the parts, I have been waiting for years for this
Pretty sure it’s still available
Mods like this make me wish I hadn't sold my original Wii years ago...
I mean, I have my Wii U, but it's not the same.
love these videos. I need to get myself a fine tip as well since i cannot get into those small places. I need more practice lol.
Yeah it helps to have an assortment of tips for jobs like this
Amazing as always
Does this require the Homebrew channel or can this HDMI mod be done to a non-homebrew modded Wii? Love the fact that you use manual tools to cutout the location for the HDMI port. Dremel often gets away from you and makes things worse.
No, this does not need to be hacked in any way and it works on a stock Wii
Is this higher quality than a Wii to HDMI adapter though?? And I don't mean those offbrand Amazon ones, I mean the Mayflash one which is actually really good. I don't wanna waste 200 dollars or however much it is (yes I saw that it's $120 but for the installation service it's more. I can't install this myself).
Mayflash is going to look very good. Technically this should be better because this is purely digital, whereas the Mayflash is an analog to digital conversion. But I have not compared these options side by side
This is so epic bro
Why do you switch between leaded and unleaded solder? Is there a benefit to unleaded in certain cases? EDIT: never mind I see someone else asked it and you answered. Thanks again for the great tutorial.
Love it! Is WiiHDMI max resolution 480p?
Yes, it’s 480p although a scaler can increase this to a higher resolution
Would be really cool is if you could convert it to USB-C and even run PD through it aswell. Then its just one cable to a Modern USB C monitor with Charging to power the Wii.
That would be pretty cool, although I think the Wii needs 5v and also 12v to run properly. It might be tricky to do that with usb-c which I think only has +5v
Does the original component output still work simultaneously with the HDMI mod installed? My plan is to have the HDMI go to my capture card and have the Original Component go to my TV. Will that work or is the Component no longer functional with this mod installed?
Yes they both work at the same time
Quick question. I have Wii component cables. Is there a benefit to doing this mod if I have cables that also put out 480p or is it pretty much the same?
Depends on your wii model. Wii outputs slightly worse than the gamecube because of some mis-configuration in the wii that can be fixed with homebrewing it. Wii HDMI mods bypasses that and you have the convenience of having an hdmi port on your wii.
@@samuraivader3814
Do you know what homebrew fixes the video output for the Wii? I’ve always found it a bit blurry so maybe that can fix it.
@@perpetualcollapse from what i looked up its a "USBLoaderGX r1272" there's a 480p fix there.
@@samuraivader3814
I looked into it and it’s usually an option that needs to be enabled in every piece of homebrew that supports it such as some emulators. I’m not sure if it works for disc games but it is supported in backup loaders such as USBLoaderGX. Cool.
I'm in the process of making a wiitop lol old 16in laptop I pulled the guts out of because it'll be a nice form factor to play wiil on my biggest problem atm is powering it off batties there is a top of space internally but I have no idea where to start 16in screen plus wii. What components do I need to power it and have the batteries rechargeable internally for at minimum 4hrs I don't mind spending some money to have a portable setup I just don't know how much about adapting batteries to a task like this. Also removed keyboard and TouchPad replacing with copper or aluminum sheet to add to the cooling system.
Does this mod disable the native video port? The kit description mentions "HDMI only" curious if that meant only one output at a time or if we would loose composite output entirely.
no, but it also doesn't add RGB/YPbPr (depending on the region of the wii) like the wiidual, although that is a really minor issue considering the wii already supports the one that is more widely available in the region it was sold.
The native video port is still functional as cooper mentioned
The older pure digital HDMI mod only worked on later-model Wiis. Is this new chip compatible with launch and older model Wiis. If so, I'm definitely interested as I own two 👍👍
Yes, this mod works with all models including the launch edition
I don't remember hearing anyone mention either removing lead-free solder, or using it with mods like these. Is it a personal preference thing such as soldering temps, or is attempting to mix the 2 different solders bad practice?
It’s not good practice to mix leaded and lead free. Eventually they separate and the solder joints crack. So if there’s lead-free on the board, you either have to stick with lead free or desolder the lead free and replace with leaded.
Personally I hate dealing with lead free so that’s why I removed it in the video
@@LIRetroGaming Thanks for the info. I feel like a lot of install videos don't mention this. Is there a list of consoles that use lead free, or a sure way to tell? Wondering about installs such as N64 digital DC digital GCDual etc.
Does installing the ave-hdmi keep the function of the analog port? Ie similar to the wii dual were you can use both been looking for a replacement for the wii dual so I can output component 480p to a crt and hdmi to a capture card/modern display
Yes as far as I know the Ave-hdmi keeps the analog port function
I have an installed wii as this. The 480p output sharpness is better than component upscalling to hdmi via ossc. The kit also can output RGBs. However, the wii main screen looks blur due to default rendering. Anyone knows how to adjust this at system menu and wii game?
there's a hack on priiloader that disable the flicker effect on the main menu, maybe that helps.
Where can I find this kind of really small tips? I only got pretty large tips for my soldering iron..
Depends on which type of iron do you have. But Amazon should have it
@@LIRetroGaming I mean o have a pretty basic one but I don't know what to look for to be sure that the tips would be smaller than the one I already have..
That mod kit is $120?!?!?!
Great video though.
cool ! but not enough a zoom on camera at motherboard !.
Sorry, it’s tough to do that with my camera. Otherwise it’s blurry.
Man I want a wii hdmi mod SOOOO bad! Why is no one manufacturing/selling them somewhere in europe so I don't have to pay ridiculous shipping and import prices?
I totally understand that. It’s an open source project so hopefully a company in Europe can manufacture it
@@LIRetroGaming Or you can order pcbs and assemble one yourself, it is fairly manageable to do, none of the components require hot air or a reflow oven or anything like that, but it is tedious. I have done it before, it wasn't too bad. Also, the jumper on the board is used for programming the firmware to flash in circuit, it needs to be closed to do the programming and open to actually use the system, so your source probably just didn't clear it after programming the firmware.
@@coopercummings8370 I know I could do that. I would consider myself to be very good at soldering so that's not the issue. I just don't trust myself to order the correct components and I trust myself even less to flash the firmware onto fpga. I've never done the latter and I'm sure I would need additional hardware to flash and that's all just to much for me. I'd rather just buy a finished product to install myself.
How long did it take you to receive the mod kit? I'm contemplating ordering one.
It was quick, he has them in stock
@@LIRetroGaming Thought it was install service only?
How does the graphic compared to Wii Dual? the graphic on wii dual is underwhelming. I have a PS1 HDMI mod. Wii dual mod is a great technical achievement but compared to the Dreamcast HDMI/PS1 Digital solution it's lacking in output option. If wii dual offers 960p native or within a boxed 1080p signal as well then it'd be fantastic
It’s the exact same video output as the dual, so it’s only 480p. If this is paired with a scaler like the retrotink 5X, then you could get a much nicer 960p result
@@LIRetroGaming How can you pair it with a scaler? Retrotink doesn't have an HDMI port.
A pure digital stream of wii? I'm not a medical expert, but I think if you're pissing out 1's and 0's you should go see a doctor 😂
That was glorious
How does the video quality compare to using component cables?
It’s slightly better than those cables in my opinion
like your tea shirt😄
Thanks! I grabbed it at a recent video game convention
Hi, doing this mod the output resolution will still be 480p right?
That’s correct
@@LIRetroGaming ok, thanks man
Why are you playing Wii games in 4:3 💀
Because I was too lazy to change the aspect ratio
What would be the benefit of having something like this if someone already has a Wii U?
The Wii U has a few issues with the aspect ratio and color palette when it’s in Wii mode, so the experience with the WiiHDMI is a little better
@@LIRetroGaming Oh got it, thanks for the reply! Very informative video.
why not just use a CFW wii u? What makes this a better solution?
The video quality is more crisp and the aspect ratio is correct whereas there is issues with both of these on a Wii U. Voultar has a few comparisons of the two on twitter
do you do mod chips on OLED switch
It’s something that I have been meaning to try but not attempted yet
Any chance getting HDMI from the Wii mini?
This might be possible as well, but I don’t know if the mini has the same RVL-AVE chip
Roms link??
I was using an original disc, no roms
24:54 Ouch! 🔪 👆🩸🩹
My hot take on the Wii: Yeah, it sold well. But a majority of those ended up rotting in nursing homes, with no other games than just Wii Sports and Wii Fit. It wasn't a good console.
Totally fair points here
Who can install this mod? I would gladly send it off to get this mod done.
I can do this for you, my website is 1uprestorations.com
Why would anyone want the Wii HDMI when they already have the Wii U 🤔?!
I forgot to mention this in the video, but it has been discovered that the Wii U has some issues with accurately displaying Wii games. Apparently the aspect ratio and the colors are a little bit off when compared to an original wii
I heard that VC titles are better to play on the Wii than the WiiU.
The Wii interface is very fast compared to the snail that is the Wii U.
Wii U can't play Gamecube games though
@@sabinrenefigaro4192 It can. Via "Nintendont"