I use the program "Fraps" to record, and Movie Maker for basic editing. The default key for taking screenshots with fraps is F10, the same as the Sphere,the game lags for a short time when you take a screenshot. :) The 666 was really unintentional.
@Axatar 2 years old but i will answer. You could destroy it. It helps though when you destroy the jump gate it came from so it can't use it to retreat. Follow and kill with caps. Theres only one too, so you kill it and then its safe to the beacon with a carrier
@Axatar wrong, u can kill it. i have destroyed it. this ends the mission there and then without the bentusi comming in. it has a huge amount of hp and it took me a long time and alot of attack bombers
That's because the IAF packs a bigger punch. Either way, one-on-one slugging matches don't really demonstrate the entire usefulness of a craft, as resource efficiency, movement speed and multidirectional combat capabilities factor in as well. Then again that would require you to run the ships through the entirety of possible scenarios, which is...time-consuming.
the trik is to get smaa fights ie scouts and go under the grave and come up where the control station is and set them to evasive and eventually ull have just 1 to make it
man...they need to bring back Raiders in a future game or the Kadeshi(technology you didn't destroy them all in HW1, that was only part of their empire)
Ahh homeworld one, this was more interesting then the other 2 as without good use with salvage corvetts the game gets hard fast. Limited resources made it key to manage resources wisely.
Maybe not the assault frigate, but definitely the ion cannon frigate. ion cannon frigate turns too slowly to keep up with the MBF. Also, I tested out MBF vs assault frigate and 1v1, the assault frigate wins due to focus fire. But 10 v 10, the MBFs win b/c all their beams can fire at a target.
Assault, no doubt. Ion Array, of course. I'd be surprised if, with proper micro-ing, the IAF would even get a single hit in. ICF, probably - the ICF is designed as dedicated anti-capital vessel, while the MBF is multipurpose - still, eight ion cannons. But the Kadeshi MBFs simply pack too much of a wallop to be compared to anything short of the Bentusi or Progenitors.
@Axatar yeah thats really gay that you cant salvage it because it can build your ships because ive tested it on modded maps and it can dock strikecraft so it would work fine if you were aloud to salvage it except for the fact that they made it mothership class which means that its unsalvagable and that it can build capital ships but if they made it so that it was carrier class everything would be just fine
A secret mission in Homeworld 1? I can see why they cut it, but I cannot understand why I never knew about this! THIS IS AN (slight) OUTRAGE! @ Atlas8811 THe Junkyard Dog (Dawg, to some) is a progenitor ship similar to the Movers found in Karos Gravyard during Homeworld 2.
No frigate is truly powerful all by itself while still possessing high efficiency against all potential threats, but the MBF comes closest. They're even good against fighters.
Here's something strange: I tested out ion cannon vs assault frigate in HWC and the assault frigate won, it was a fair matchup. The assault frigate had energy cannon upgrade though. Also, the ion array beats the ion cannon frigate 1v1, despite having lower armor.
weird, when i played homeworld 1 the first time i sent a large squad toward the carrier, lost them in a sec, tested whit a RU cheat/trainer to see what it took to take it down, it chewd throu 50+ fighters/corvettes in a few sec :S, here the carriers dosnt seem to do mutch... same for mission 3 in the game, the carrier is rather passive compared to the one on mission 1 (yet its supposedly the same ship)
So its the kadeshi MBFs you're talking about? Are they really the best frigates in the game? Which frigate is the best frigate in the game? The answer comes down to 3 contestants: the Somtaaw MBF, the Kadeshi MBF, and the assault frigate in HWC (where capital ships' accuracy against fighters dramatically increased).
Frigates do need to be fast, especially in Singleplayer. Now with pure artillery frigates it's not that noticeable, but imagine, for example, a slow support frigate. Then take into consideration that the IAF is not only the slowest frigate, but one of the slowest ships in the entire game.
So do you think the ion array frigate is more useful than the ion cannon frigate or not? Its stronger, but slower and less maneuverable. Then again, it has a cloaking ability.
Yeah but so far, i only encountered(and captured) ion array frigs and assault frigs, I don't like IAFs so much(they are slower) so i retired them all and built Ion Frigs instead.
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I use the program "Fraps" to record, and Movie Maker for basic editing.
The default key for taking screenshots with fraps is F10, the same as the Sphere,the game lags for a short time when you take a screenshot. :)
The 666 was really unintentional.
@plasm2 No. Turanic Raiders are their own varied group of nomadic space pirates from the Turan sector.
last time i checked, planets can't attack you...
either that or the devil likes to go into spacebattles in an interceptor
@Axatar 2 years old but i will answer. You could destroy it. It helps though when you destroy the jump gate it came from so it can't use it to retreat. Follow and kill with caps. Theres only one too, so you kill it and then its safe to the beacon with a carrier
If you look around, you might be able to get it... I'm not too certain, however.
@Axatar wrong, u can kill it. i have destroyed it. this ends the mission there and then without the bentusi comming in. it has a huge amount of hp and it took me a long time and alot of attack bombers
That's because the IAF packs a bigger punch.
Either way, one-on-one slugging matches don't really demonstrate the entire usefulness of a craft, as resource efficiency, movement speed and multidirectional combat capabilities factor in as well.
Then again that would require you to run the ships through the entirety of possible scenarios, which is...time-consuming.
I'm not sure if they're the best, but their reputation precedes them.
NEED TO PLAY HOMEWORLD AGAIN!
I remembe i would always try to capture a raider carrier, but never have enough salvagers to do so :(
epic soundtrack is epic.
the trik is to get smaa fights ie scouts and go under the grave and come up where the control station is and set them to evasive and eventually ull have just 1 to make it
wasnt the raider also part of the exile fleet?
kharak, kadeshians and raider.
You cannot destroy the Ghost Ship, believe me i tried, it regenerates after a certain damage is done.
Pls tell me how to play that mission?
How to play this mission?
Massed fire makes it. They are space rakes of doom, and their tendency to rotate increases their hit probability.
not exactly, the somtaw MBF is better against strike craft and it can't even fire all it's beams towards the same target .
man...they need to bring back Raiders in a future game or the Kadeshi(technology you didn't destroy them all in HW1, that was only part of their empire)
Ahh homeworld one, this was more interesting then the other 2 as without good use with salvage corvetts the game gets hard fast. Limited resources made it key to manage resources wisely.
That was the Turanic Raider planet?
But Somtaaw multibeam frigate at least beasts the ion cannon frigate, ion array frigate, and the assault frigate, right?
Puts a tear in my eye to see my favorite race being slaughtered :3. Yeah, they might have boxy ships, but I still love them.
Kadeshi MB Frigate vs Somtaaw MB Frigate? Which do you think would win?
im tlking acout how u go into the office of the junkyard
wtf, are you serious? WHERE ARE THE SALVAGE CORVETTES!?!?!?
LOL, makes me wonder if you might need an exorcist for your PC? ;-)
Of course there's always the much more amusing option of setting the Junkyard Dawg to capture-able.
Maybe not the assault frigate, but definitely the ion cannon frigate. ion cannon frigate turns too slowly to keep up with the MBF. Also, I tested out MBF vs assault frigate and 1v1, the assault frigate wins due to focus fire. But 10 v 10, the MBFs win b/c all their beams can fire at a target.
nice formation 1:05. seems good for a tentative situation of uncertainty..did you already know what to expect?
frigates are not in a formation, they went directly towards the carriers from their parade position
Kadeshi, hands down.
Assault, no doubt.
Ion Array, of course. I'd be surprised if, with proper micro-ing, the IAF would even get a single hit in.
ICF, probably - the ICF is designed as dedicated anti-capital vessel, while the MBF is multipurpose - still, eight ion cannons.
But the Kadeshi MBFs simply pack too much of a wallop to be compared to anything short of the Bentusi or Progenitors.
Is there any merit to building plasma bombers?
Which one? The Kadeshi MBF is not that good against fighters (although slightly better than ion cannon frigates).
Can you still get Raider Retreat? Or is it now non-existent ?
@Axatar yeah thats really gay that you cant salvage it because it can build your ships because ive tested it on modded maps and it can dock strikecraft so it would work fine if you were aloud to salvage it except for the fact that they made it mothership class which means that its unsalvagable and that it can build capital ships but if they made it so that it was carrier class everything would be just fine
A secret mission in Homeworld 1? I can see why they cut it, but I cannot understand why I never knew about this! THIS IS AN (slight) OUTRAGE!
@ Atlas8811
THe Junkyard Dog (Dawg, to some) is a progenitor ship similar to the Movers found in Karos Gravyard during Homeworld 2.
this mission of the demo of the game, no?
No frigate is truly powerful all by itself while still possessing high efficiency against all potential threats, but the MBF comes closest. They're even good against fighters.
homeworld was such an easy game to beat
LOL, a guess a glitch at 5:45 ;-)
Good vid! What did you use to capture and edit?
If you keep the carrier captured long enough you can build them :D
Dude WHAT ?? Does that mission exist in the non-remastered game?
It has existed for almost 20 years :)
lol now i see why they took that mission out. Holy shit that looks tough lol
The trick is using the gravity well lmao :D. It gets rolling :D. And you finish it off!
I used salvage corvettes the whole game. Honestly, it was a breeze.
And fun. ^.^ Wound up with more than 130 ion frigates by the end of the game.
Here's something strange: I tested out ion cannon vs assault frigate in HWC and the assault frigate won, it was a fair matchup. The assault frigate had energy cannon upgrade though.
Also, the ion array beats the ion cannon frigate 1v1, despite having lower armor.
Make me know that how old this channel is really old.
its more that 13 years old :)
Axatar yeah and just keep going i want to see you play HW3.
@@phaopong55 i sure will, in three years :) i hope you will as well
You cannot, it's set by default as Mothership class. :)
I'm working with the base IAF here, not the Cataclysm one. The base IAF is useful for retirement at best.
I prefer not to use them, I makes the game harder and more interesting.
"Group 666 designated."
weird, when i played homeworld 1 the first time i sent a large squad toward the carrier, lost them in a sec, tested whit a RU cheat/trainer to see what it took to take it down, it chewd throu 50+ fighters/corvettes in a few sec :S, here the carriers dosnt seem to do mutch... same for mission 3 in the game, the carrier is rather passive compared to the one on mission 1 (yet its supposedly the same ship)
Lolz. One quick suggestion. Don't bother watermarking the video. It's bad as it is the way youtube reduces its quality lol..
So its the kadeshi MBFs you're talking about? Are they really the best frigates in the game? Which frigate is the best frigate in the game? The answer comes down to 3 contestants: the Somtaaw MBF, the Kadeshi MBF, and the assault frigate in HWC (where capital ships' accuracy against fighters dramatically increased).
Frigates do need to be fast, especially in Singleplayer.
Now with pure artillery frigates it's not that noticeable, but imagine, for example, a slow support frigate.
Then take into consideration that the IAF is not only the slowest frigate, but one of the slowest ships in the entire game.
woow cool i had the game now i have homeworld2 yeee sajuuk rocks
I tested out MBF vs assault frigate 1v1 and the AF wins. But in groups, the MBF wins b/c each ion cannon has something to shoot at.
i want the mission to..
where can i get it?
So do you think the ion array frigate is more useful than the ion cannon frigate or not?
Its stronger, but slower and less maneuverable. Then again, it has a cloaking ability.
Group 666 designated.
Didnt this have a cutscene too? Im interested in it
as far as I remember, there is none, juste some dialogue spoken during mission 4(you can find it in the .vce speech file)
Yeah but so far, i only encountered(and captured) ion array frigs and assault frigs, I don't like IAFs so much(they are slower) so i retired them all and built Ion Frigs instead.
thats a another way u can do it
where i can dl this game?
it is included in Homeworld Remastered, otherwise you can find the classic version with a google search
But for frigates and up, I though speed doesn't matter, only power, which the IAF has more of than the ICF.
Slower than heavy cruisers? I don't think so. As long as it doesn't lag behind a heavy cruiser, its fine.
i cheated to destory it and the ghost ship is in homeworld 2 0_0 and catacylsm its like bentusi It carrys on
group sixsixsix designated :P
It is a free "demo" availiable at homeworld archives
w w w[dot]homeworldarchives[dot]com[/]hw1-downloads-raider[dot]html
Well, discounting Ugly and Banana the HC is the slowest ship in the fleet. I'd rather have my frigates more nimble than that.
ROTFLMAO on 5:45, Group 666.
That explains why my attempts didn't work. Bloody spoilsports.
lol group 6-6-6 designated ^_^