I am so profoundly impressed with Joe Rogan’s interviewing skills. He asks such intelligent questions. He knows when to let his guest talk. He gives most a platform, but he calls out frauds. I do not understand why there are people who want to silence him. I truly appreciate him more and more each day.
I’m impressed that Joe can still understand clearly enough to where he may not fully understand the concept, but knows what question to ask in order get the guest to provide more info to help him and the listeners understand.
Thank you, Joe Rogan, for featuring this brilliant scientist. No, I can't really follow his arguments. I don't have the capacity to understand his research and ideas. However, he speaks so clearly and offers interesting ideas that give me a glimpse into the big questions of life. Sean Carroll is a gift to humanity. Thank you for bringing this to us.
@Telios Abraxas Same here, my cats got it right away. But then as 5th dimensional beings, that we can only perceive as cute but murderous fuzzy animals, seems to work in their intellectual advantage better than the 'dumb dog effect' works for dogs. :p
Poor Shrodinger. One of the biggest influences of current quantum physics knowledge and explanations known, and he was trying to debunk the entire idea of quantum physics. Shrodingers Cat, a thought experiment intended to ridicule the idea of probability collapse, was proven true and became one of the pillars of quantum computing.
@@Certz897 things that require a higher intellect than you have in order to comprehend. He's talking about schrodinger paradox and how it is a cornerstone in the understanding of the collapse of wave functions in relation to quantum mechanics.
Intellectuals?? But yet ZERO facts like most bullshit scientists. All ifs buts and maybes. Con men trying to sell books and win million dollar nobel prizes.
@@toomuch9762 no evidence? I mean, granted in this domain of hypothetical interpretations of Quantum mechanics, yeah it's merely conjecture, but they are not trying to tout it as rigorous scientific fact... Still the moniker "intellectual" holds.
Need to bring on scientists who disagree with the mainstream scientists, joe has been good about bringing in Randall Carlson and Robert Schoch, but he needs some people who disagree with the astrophysicist and mathematicians who keep making up new theories that make absolutely no sense, there's plenty of scientists who disagree strongly with string theory, many worlds and inflation theory, I'm surprised Joe hasn't had some on honestly
If you think about it, that's we always do. We have perfect knowledge about basically nothing. Tomorrow a meteor could destroy life on Earth. But I'm pretty sure that it's statistically improbable so I should put the alarm clock anyway
Will Roberts there is an interesting discussion of that phenomenon discussing fractals that if I remember correctly it is generally not possible to measure coastlines without fractals.
Intelligence on this level while still being able to communicate and interact with anyone on basically any subject, and do it comfortably... is a rare thing.
@@glenndouglas8822 no it isn’t. Do you plan to retire? You need to understand the philosophical issues with Bayesian probability in order to do so competently or to understand the fundamental errors in our expressed market errors. Is this unfair? Yup.
Being able to communicate complex ideas in simple ways that anyone can understand is a sign of intelligence. Probably because a lot of people who think they’re intelligent are just good at memorisation and so they can only regurgitate what they believe they’ve heard. They can’t break things down to their simplest parts because they don’t actually understand them. One of my favourite books since I first read it in 6th grade is “Flowers for Algernon” and it’s a lot about what intelligence actually is, and how people see themselves and others thru that lens.
@rico9163 /s has never gained the traction originally hoped. So many are unable to recognize sarcasm, and text is often a poor vehicle for often dearly needed facetiousness.
Sir there is a difference between intelligence and intellect left vs Right. Hence we have a IQ test and a EQ test. Sean is intellectual not intelligent. Get it right. As much as Eistien was a sellout he was extremely intellectual he was never intelligent. Other wise if he was intelligent he would not of have been used by the CIA and MIC(milatary industrial complex).
Sean Carroll’s style of delivery is so calm and patient. Whilst I know next to nothing of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics, he motivates me to learn - as all great teachers do.
Firstly, Einstein's Relativity is relatively accurate... *From a certain point of view* . Einstein believed that the speed of light in a vacuum is a Universal Constant, and proceeding from this assumption allows you to create a consistent framework with a strong predictive value for understanding observational physics. But Einstein made a critical error. Einstein insisted that no particular frame of reference pertains to his theory, but in referencing the vacuum in his attempt to quantify the speed of light as a Universal constant, he unwittingly made the vacuum itself the frame of reference for his theory. Alternatively, we could make the Earth the point of reference for our own model of the Universe. If we assume that the Earth is stationary at the center of the Universe, we can calculate the motion of the Universe around the Earth. Then, rather than the speed of light, it is the Earth itself which would become the key Universal constant. The speed of light moving in a particular direction relative to the motion of the Universe around the Earth would be the "cosmic speed limit", and our physical model based on this assumption would have the same predictive value as Einstein's Relativity. So the key to understanding Relativity really has nothing to do with the particular framework Einstein established. It has to do with the manifestation of a particular phenomenon that will appear in any Relativistic framework no matter what your "Universal constants" are: the singularity. Any Relativistic model of the Universe will appear to show the Universe "emerging" and "expanding" from an infinitesimal point. An infinitesimal point is not a discrete finite point, it is a conceptual point of reference characterized by an infinite procession of physics. So, what are the implications for quantum mechanics? The event horizon is key to unlocking the mysteries of the quantum realm. The event horizon is the present relative to the past/future (and again, this is true no matter how you frame your Relativistic model of the Universe). The event horizon is characterized by two points of reference: the infinitesimal point from which the Universe expands, and the infinitesimal point towards which the event horizon proceeds. The particle lives on the event horizon, and the "probability function" (its "wave status") is derived from these two points of reference. Its "particle status" is derived from the *observed present* , the event horizon. All effect exists relative to infinite cause, and all cause exists relative to infinite effect. Experience exists relative to observation. Relativity and quantum mechanics have always been compatible, but only when we recognize these theories for what they signify, as opposed to the mainstream interpretation that the theories themselves are validation of the assumptions underlying the consensus framework.
@@ericfarina3935 Many thanks for you’re detailed and most erudite comment. As a layman I am obviously baffled by much here although I do follow, if that makes sense. Couple of points/observations: As regards using a vacuum as a frame of reference, I would empathise with space being in such a state. The event horizon has to be a constant being forever present. Observation is key to the quantum experience. Obviously there is so much more here and it would take me a long time to develop even a rudimentary comprehension, but I’m willing to read and learn. That’s what it’s all about!
@@kdee8166 I am also a layman. I take a particular perspective on these matters that I believe is grounded in logic and evidence, stemming from a simplified perspective on the key fundamentals. I think you are absolutely right in saying the event horizon is a constant relative to observation, but the event horizon is also an illusion. It is a perceptual manifestation of the limits of observation relative to reality. The Singularity is the *real* constant. It is all that was, is, or ever will be, an infinite precession of physics proceeding through the present ad infinitum.
You have no idea how many people have dedicated their lives to research the information that this man has presented in this podcast today. He stands on the shoulders of many giants. Fascinating times to be alive in
Joe had the experience which all philosophy students have: turns out all of your interesting ideas were already thought of by somebody, then either shown to be deeply flawed, or better articulated and examined than you ever could have managed yourself. That's why its so hard to come up with a PhD proposal!
@@tannermeche7968 Nope, I'm salty that I can't think of what to do for my PhD application, because I learned in my masters degree that all my 'original' ideas turned out to be old. Quitting my job to study something interesting was the least salt-inducing thing I've ever done.
@@monkeymox2544 If most of the graduates of a system of higher education are not capable of original thought, then does higher education really exist? Or is intellectual progress really a factor of the wave function of the universe. There you go.......you're welcome. :P
Sean Carroll is one of my favorite "physics storytellers", soft spoken, gentle in his appearance with the ability to give us mortals a chance to even try to understand. In other words a great teacher with enthusiasm and passion to make others understand his love for the science.
There hasn't been a "household name" among science popularizers since Carl Sagan. Too much competition? Poor public relations? I like that many folks such as Carroll are bringing science to the public, but I miss having a main one that everybody knew about.
@@stevenscott2136 I love this guy, try to listen to his podcast. But I think the forefront of a lot of these conversations about how the universe works has just gone far beyond what the average person can comprehend. Even the dumbed down version makes no sense to me at all, and I always did well in school. When he's talking about things easy to understand he's fascinating, when he's talking about his work it's just beyond me. Like watching a grandmaster make a move in chess that I don't understand.
Most religions on earth: Shit happens and it's your fault. Taoism: Observe that shit happens. Science: Shit has happened, is currently happening and will happen...ain't it cool!
As I scroll down the comment section, reading interesting and intelligent comments, I thought I had a piece of hair on my screen. When I tried to wipe it off, I then realized that it's your profile picture
I'm a physicist (doing a master's at the moment) and came here for Carroll. I've always seen memes and stuff about Joe and people like to paint him as stupid, and so that was what I was expecting here. I am thoroughly impressed. These are really really good questions and even if he doesn't understand the material on a deeper level, it seems he has really good intuition and clever ideas.
Joe will go down as the greatest interviewer of our time , He is so versatile, knows when to get out of the way and when to press a point . Doesn't matter if he was interviewing Carroll or name wildest character you can think of pick one. He is the best . If somebody calls him anything but brilliant they are speaking out of ignorance and they just don't know his work at all.
@@EazzyEEEThe Older generation that grew up on Radio no cell phones, computers would beg to differ. Though Joe is great in his time I would bet even he listened to Art Bell interviews late nights. Art Bell was the original. RIP❤
@@jules-marcdavis6843 I listened to Art Bell back 90’s in the AM radio . His show was pioneering for sure one of the best radio voices ever . I still listen to his archives in YT when I crash at night . Nostalgic af
@@EazzyEEE calm down lol no he certainly will not. He does not know when to get out of the way. Maybe here where he's speaking with an expert he can - but with other comedians (his own field) he's consistent with missing jokes and walking over other peoples. I like Joe but this kind of idol worship is pathetic
I just love that here we have a philosopher-physicist and a comedian talking about the fundamental probabilistic nature of reality and there are 500k+ views. There is hope for us yet. EDIT: 1M+ views EDIT: 2M+ views
Nope. Problematic assigns a dissatisfaction with an answer while the use of the created word "probilistic" one could construe to mean dealing with probabilities
I am always floored when someone who is this vastly intelligent and well versed in such a complicated topic, can explain things in a way that are objectively understandable to someone with very little knowledge on the topic. He understands when a question isn’t phrases right because a word or phrase could be defined multiple ways. Im just amazed.
That actually happened to me one time in my college daze. It was the start of a new semester and I walked into a large lecture hall in the Math & Sciences Building and sat down. Class started and the professor was explaining the syllabus and the topics to be discussed and I realized I wasn't in a math class, but rather a nursing biology class. I really wanted to crawl out of there on my hands and knees, but knew that wouldn't work, so I just stayed and pretended I was supposed to be there.
@@pagamenews 😂 then you probably missed the class you were supposed to be in. One thing that was nice about the large lectures in college is we were allowed to attend if we didn’t belong.Good way to try out potential electives for next semester.
@@JZETH_ lmao, i love how he knows he's perceived as crazy and warns u bout what he bout to say before he says it lmao or when he hears someone talk some woke shit he will ask a question as if he didnt already spend 10 thousand hours researching it on youtube
No, we don't. I used to like listening to Eddie, but he is a nut case these days. His assertions are dangerous. the uneducated or undereducated will listen to him and take him seriously in a lot of cases. Not a good thing.
@@carlosburgos4636 nope you are no dummy - everyone has something that makes other people dummies (if that makes sense). Physics I can hold my own, ask me to change the settings on my thermostat that is another beast all together. Still your original comment was funny!
I met Professor Carol at Caltech once, one of the greatest human beings I ve ever seen in my life, what a gentleman, what an amazing human being. I am so happy that he was interviewed by Joe Rogan.
I love how he notes that the next explanation is going to be hard to wrap your head around as if the previous explanations were super simple to digest.
Joe Rogan is the perfect host. He's smart enough to ask good questions, to get the most out of his more brilliant guests. And he doesn't interrupt when a good point is being made.
@@JaymanNVK I do t k ow too much about stern but he does seem pretty gross. I heard awhile back he paid woman to undress themselves in front of him on his show and pays to have their brothers touch them 😬
Bro. 😂 this is my wife talking about how it’s my fault when it clearly wasn’t but still makes such an impressive argument that I just now believe it’s my fault, and at the same time have no idea what I did.
Sean Carroll was one of those people I didn't know existed and then decided to give the podcast a listen anyways and realized I had been missing out on an interesting person my entire life before this.
Firstly, Einstein's Relativity is relatively accurate... *From a certain point of view* . Einstein believed that the speed of light in a vacuum is a Universal Constant, and proceeding from this assumption allows you to create a consistent framework with a strong predictive value for understanding observational physics. But Einstein made a critical error. Einstein insisted that no particular frame of reference pertains to his theory, but in referencing the vacuum in his attempt to quantify the speed of light as a Universal constant, he unwittingly made the vacuum itself the frame of reference for his theory. Alternatively, we could make the Earth the point of reference for our own model of the Universe. If we assume that the Earth is stationary at the center of the Universe, we can calculate the motion of the Universe around the Earth. Then, rather than the speed of light, it is the Earth itself which would become the key Universal constant. The speed of light moving in a particular direction relative to the motion of the Universe around the Earth would be the "cosmic speed limit", and our physical model based on this assumption would have the same predictive value as Einstein's Relativity. So the key to understanding Relativity really has nothing to do with the particular framework Einstein established. It has to do with the manifestation of a particular phenomenon that will appear in any Relativistic framework no matter what your "Universal constants" are: the singularity. Any Relativistic model of the Universe will appear to show the Universe "emerging" and "expanding" from an infinitesimal point. An infinitesimal point is not a discrete finite point, it is a conceptual point of reference characterized by an infinite procession of physics. So, what are the implications for quantum mechanics? The event horizon is key to unlocking the mysteries of the quantum realm. The event horizon is the present relative to the past/future (and again, this is true no matter how you frame your Relativistic model of the Universe). The event horizon is characterized by two points of reference: the infinitesimal point from which the Universe expands, and the infinitesimal point towards which the event horizon proceeds. The particle lives on the event horizon, and the "probability function" (its "wave status") is derived from these two points of reference. Its "particle status" is derived from the *observed present* , the event horizon. All effect exists relative to infinite cause, and all cause exists relative to infinite effect. Experience exists relative to observation. Relativity and quantum mechanics have always been compatible, but only when we recognize these theories for what they signify, as opposed to the mainstream interpretation that the theories themselves are validation of the assumptions underlying the consensus framework.
Ya this guy sucks. He thinks he is such an intellect and profound deep thinker. In reality, he doesn't say sh*t! EVER!!! LOL. This guy is painful to listen too.
@@mattrosich no, he's a little tone deaf to who the audience is. His problem is he says too much too quickly and forgets that he is always the smartest guy in the room
@@brandondriver99 are we all sure he's the smartest guy in the room? That's the perception he carries, but thats it. There is nothing to take away from this rant. Plz explain to me what you got from it. Something profound, or something you're gonna remember from watching this. (Except for this conversation we're having.) That's all i got!! Lol.
Matt Rosich he was talking about the nature of probabilities. Yeah some was high science stuff that you need an education to understand, but the basics are easy to grasp. There is nothing wrong with rewatching it and researching things that he says. If you can’t then we all know who is stupidest in the room.
@@thinkingmachine354 well Thinking Machine. You call yourself "Thinking Machine" so I dare not oppose you. Great name you made up for yourself. AND BY THE WAY, STUPIDEST??? I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T CALL YOURSELF THE "GRAMMAR MACHINE!!!"
People always wanna give Joe shit, but he’s really got the formula down. This is how modern media should work! Scientists and intelligent free thinkers should be as much on the forefront as “influencers” or celebrities/politicians. Without scientific advancements and lifting the scientific community, we wouldn’t be where we are today. They deserve much more appreciation and funding.
There's a good chance that you found it when you were young and had it crushed out of you by adults that thought they knew better. That's usually the case. We all have something, you just have to find it. For me it's anthropology, it's everything I always loved to learn and write about, culture, history, evolution, psychology, biology, all combined, but I didn't know there was a field that included them all until my mid 20's, I just thought I'd have to stay with soul-sucking jobs and reading in my free time longingly. Now I'm studying in my field and I literally cry tears of joy sometimes, to have something that I love so much, that I can do. I never fit in, nobody ever seemed to care about those things, they were too "deep," but I found a small group of people who care about the same things I do, and it's so validating, nothing on the planet could make me happier, especially since I'm already a mom. I think for a lot of people it's something like art, music, or philosophy, all beautiful things, ways of expressing our souls, but we're being told it's all about business, get in marketing, accounting, banking, be a doctor, something that'll make you rich, passion is for naive losers. We're told it's bullshit, you won't make money that way, and many of us let that dream die, sometimes without even knowing how much potential we had to do something with it, they just didn't understand. I hope you recognize that thing and do something with it. It's one of the most blissful things you can ever experience.
Absolutely love Sean Carroll. Listened to all of Joe’s interviews with him. He’s a sharp Mind, love hearing his opinions and learning new things from him.
After double checking his calculations, I find this guy is mostly right; unfortunately, he forgot to carry the one in the last equation. Rogan is the best, if he didn't shake his jowls I wouldn't have understood about waves and vibrations. Thanks Joe.
@@AstrixCloud lol double checking his calculations? Gtfoh. Like he’s at a chalkboard or dry erase board for a long time after a Joe Rogan video. Stop it.
I give this podcast a lot of credit for helping expand my general knowledge, episode aside, solid vocab. I've never been much of a reader but I thoroughly enjoy listening to this kind of content, occasionally.
Joe deserves credit just for smoking Cali weed and still having the available brain cells to absorb all this information and even keep up in order to ask proper questions. Props man.
... perhaps it is the marijuana that allows our pride and ego to subside just enough to recognize how little we each know, simultaneously opening up to the possibility of receiving new information. Just a thought.
Granted I'm no genius but. This video proved me how much I like Joe and his presence. My 12 minutes went 'oh yeah I do get what he means, ok, now I don't get it again'
Yeah me too, I've studied some quantum mechanics, also read books like 'The Dancing Wu Li Masters' which introduced me to it. I've read plenty of philosophy such as Tao and so can see the relationship between them but still I'm just a kid in the grand scheme of things.
My head literally imploded, exploded, then imploded and put itself together all in the exact same moment, across 7 different dimensions while listening to this.
If the topic fascinates you, read the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov. Everything is based on the assumption that, by calculating the past and the present, the future of humanity can be predicted and forged. Its a real masterpiece.
Eh no. If you can calculate the future by knowing the past and present, it implies a deterministic universe. If the universe is deterministic you can't 'forge' it because it's predetermined.
@@Sparclen Harry Seldon’s Equations predict what happens to individual humans like statistical mechanics predicts how individual molecules act. It is not Clockwork. Therefore, you can “forge history” because your behavior is not determined by the whole set, merely influenced, and you can influence your neighboring particles, and with will, knowledge, and maybe a bit of nonsense (the Union of Asimov’s story lines, and I’ll leave that as an exercise for the reader), one can influence the outcomes at critical points and maybe produce desired outcomes. As an example, the Mule was entirely a random event which should have changed everything, but the Second Foundation played mini-mules and firstly, converted the Mule into an administrator rather than staying a conqueror, then over the centuries reset everyone onto a trajectory back to the form of a new galactic empire in less than 20,000 years of a darkness age.
Science is the absence of philosophy. Science at it's very core is all about practice, practice, and more practice in STEM fields or related fields. Philosophy is more often than not just a witty, and perhaps generalized phrasology or personal "mantra" someone developed for themselves and their agenda. You may need a philosophy to perhaps push a scientific idea forward, but more as a vague inspiration rather than a guideline.
Kaddywompous oh my God I was thinking of the same thing when he said that. The gang buys a boat is my favorite episode. Well done Kaddywompus you kick ass! "Are these women in any danger?"
Penny and feather in a vacuum Force required to maintain the penny before the shelf is moved is different than the force required to keep the feather stationary once both fall the penny isn't done falling it still has to cool down higher density higher excited state
The thing I love about joe Rogan is that no matter what guest he has and what subject matter they talk about is the fact that joe Rohan is so insightful about all aspects of conversation. I feel like he is a well rounded mind. He isn’t a professional in any aspect of intellectual conversations but he has an idea of how all things work and he is so open to what has to be said and he obtains this information given to him he analyzes it for himself snd makes his own opinions on subjects. He’s not a follower he’s a leader. And he just sucks this info up like a sponge and uses it alinternalizes it.
I,HAD 1200 IN DESTINY 1 AND DLC'S ,I KNEW I SHOULD BUY NUMBER 2 SO I didnt So I could do other stuff.2 years later Im playing my old.favorite borderlands ...That was the game that got me into looter shooters,now its bl3
Throw it out. Smash it. I gave up gaming around ten years ago. It fucked up a lot in my life. It's so easy to forget reality when immersed in another one. Until life (and wife) kicks you in the face and tells you to grow the fuck up. Good luck man.
@@ls6-ss413 To each his own. I'd say smash it only if you're not gaining anything meaningful out of that time spent. Borderlands was the foundation of my marriage. I now have an amazing family, house, a successful business & just about anything I ever dreamt of. If we weren't at the house spending quality time on the Xbox we would have been out partying getting hammered and most likely jailed. There would have been drunken arguments and I surely would have been irrational at some point. If you really feel like gaming is time wasted, that's when you smash it.
Why would you drool? Is Joe or Sean you're drooling over. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink * know what i mean? Know what i mean? say no more, say no more. -Monty Python.
he does have a point, very interesting. tho it would mean complete omniscience is impossible. but if it is possible i can only think of an omniscient being cycling about itself's thoughts.
Complete omniscience is only impossible for a vantage point that participates in the wave function in that it can predict everything except what happens to itself. What if the intelligence in question transcends it?
I don't get the impression that Joe pre-plans more than the initial direction/question. His ability to ask the correct "next" question is just flat impressive. So good at steering the discussion towards clarity...always clarity.
Philosophy is what my mind does all day long. Its what I like talking about the most, writing about the most and thinking about the most. I'm not formally educated but philosophy has always come easy and left me in good spirits. A core facet that I like, is that the subject never ends, and anything may fall under the scope.
Dual slot experiment shows observing the wave function collapses it. The Demon says I can predict everything by observing all the wave functions. I predict the demon wants to collapse the universe. You felt confused because you were gaslighted by a 2%er (at best). Joe's IQ doesn't provide him the ability to recognize Grandiose Narcissism at the Mensa level. Feel better?
We know enough to make accurate predictions about reality, but we don't truly understands reality. Ultimately limited by our senses and brain. Some hoped math/science was the answer to overcoming these limitations, but physics has reached the point of unconfirmable theory. In other words, it is now in the realm of philosophy.
You have humility. That’s a good thing. He knows a lot about a little (I’m assuming of course) but maybe you are like me and know a little about everything. Some things a lot more than others but you have intelligence even though you were making a funny comment.
@@Smokeyxz lol, thanks. I try to stay humble but do enjoy learning from those who are true subject matter experts. I have a wide range of interests and understanding our universe is certainly among them!
@@steveparish4209 doesn't matter... Trust me, these scientism-types are mouthpieces for theories and postulations to make them sound like absolute facts, which they are not
Notice he corrected joe by saying "Laplace" at the beginning of his sentence, subtly, instead of "Lapozz". That's how you politely correct someone. You dont stop the conversation and entire concept dead in its tracks by pointing out someone mispronounced something, like a child, as if THEYRE the idiot. Take note internet.
@Zyn Gremlin I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not, but if you aren't friends with someone, harming their ego over something as stupid as the pronunciation of a single syllable isn't wise. A human ego is no small matter, I've seen people get their unconcious bodies beaten on asphalt, with no one to step in and stop the peehaps lifelong damage being done to them, over harming the wrong person's ego. It's rude, and it just isn't smart. Most people don't care though, which ironically, is often because of THEIR ego.
So, park your brain like you do. Isn't it great that not everyone thinks the same? What a boring sad place it will be when we all think like you. Amen pff
@nanique6923 You're funny. Lumping me in with collective thinking, saying I park my brain. 🙄 You don't know anything about me. What I do know is the one true God. I hope you along with these people find Him before it's too late. Throwing around Amen...that really cracks me up. Pff back atcha.
I've listened to this 3 times and it seemingly makes less and less sense hahah. The wave form squared just sounded like a bunch of guys try a bunch of shiz with a wave and see if the results sound interesting. Maybe they square it today, maybe they divide it tomorrow, seriously, i have no idea. I would love to know how this actually binds together, to help us explain our universe.
I've taken a quantum mech course at university in my electrical engineering bachelor's programme. The "probability is wave function squared" statement is an axiom that you can verify in the lab. The term "wave function" is named quite unfortunately. It should be "state function". It's nothing more than a mathematical tool: there "is" no state function, but you can construct one, and then do math with it. Schrödinger's big thing is that he had an equation that could predict the evolution of that mathematical tool in time/space. Whenever you square the tool (after taking the complex magnitude, but whatever) you get probability, which you can measure as follows. If you have an electron trapped in an electrical pit, you can construct a state function that evolves in time and has different values in different place of the pit. The state function is an abstract thing that doesn't exist. However, now duplicate your setup a billion times, and measure the position of each electron. If you were to graph where the electron is found, you'll see that it's the same curve as the state function squared. The whole "state function is a woozy mathematical tool that doesn't exist" thing is quite common in physics. Newtonian mechanics revolve around forces. Guess what? Those don't exist either. We invented forces because nature does shit, and we wanted some way to talk about that with math. If you could ask nature, she wouldn't know what "a force" was. But if it predicts experiments accurately, we tend to talk about these things as if they actually exist.
its always a good time to smoke weed . just gotta select a strain that conpliments the desired activity .. no naughty night time indica for this interview
Laplace's Demon Talk begins 4:42
Thank you.
Thanks
Legend
I thought he was gonna actually talk about a demon this is boring
Bro
Just listened to this on the way to work then tried explaining it to my boss. Received a drug test...
😂😂😂
Fuck your idiot boss!
😂😭🤣
😂😂😂😂😂 My fuckin cheeks and stomache hurts now and my wife is wondering what the fuck am I laughing at all by myself.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh well, work in something where you don’t get drug tests
Sometimes I feel like Quantum Physics is only understood by 8 guys and they're all freestyling.
I feel like that is a rather accurate description of quantum theory lol.
This made me laugh out loud!😄
Nah thousands of college physics students (me!) take classes on introductory quantum physics.
It's all garbage
@@historia9275 incorrect, obviously you haven’t studied this stuff
I am so profoundly impressed with Joe Rogan’s interviewing skills. He asks such intelligent questions. He knows when to let his guest talk. He gives most a platform, but he calls out frauds. I do not understand why there are people who want to silence him. I truly appreciate him more and more each day.
Because there’s a lot who only know him through headlines
probably because he calls out frauds
I disagree with him being "balanced." however, his inquisitive nature is apparent.
He's great at what he does but in 2022 he told people to vote Republican and likes Ron DeSantis.
easy now he’s about to bust
If you traveled out into infinity, you still wouldn’t see how far over my head this conversation went.
LMAO damn 🤣
Great analogy
😂
@Tim Pearson youtube brought me here, and your comment fits perfect to how I felt at the end, still laughing as i type this .....ynwa
😂😂😂😂😂 this made my day!
Doesnt matter if Joe understands or not, him giving airtime to these guys is a blessing
Is a blessing*
@@collinbarnard207 haha corrected
Exactly! It’s not about Joe but more about the people who he knows.
It is now deemed miss information
Leonard Susskind and The Holographic Principle need to be here.
I’m impressed that Joe can still understand clearly enough to where he may not fully understand the concept, but knows what question to ask in order get the guest to provide more info to help him and the listeners understand.
That’s why he’s Joe Rogan
The best explanation of JR yet and I’m a little jealous of your eloquence.
That’s how you know he’s controlled. He’s reading those comments off a paper for the most part. Please use discernment.
It is called preparation
@@iskeepsitreal you're controlled
Thank you, Joe Rogan, for featuring this brilliant scientist. No, I can't really follow his arguments. I don't have the capacity to understand
his research and ideas. However, he speaks so clearly and offers interesting ideas that give me a glimpse into the big questions of life.
Sean Carroll is a gift to humanity. Thank you for bringing this to us.
Who clicked this thinking they were going to get an epic demon story? XD
Who calls a philosophy theory a goddamn demon?
I was ready to creep myself out.
Clicked for the creepy pasta
Damn, so it’s not about demons?
Bob S people actually comment without even watching the video..them are the fuck heads that Joe always refers to in the TH-cam comment section lol
Bob S okay boomer
I was trying to explain this to my dog and he just sat there looking at me like I was stupid.
Ok that just made my day!!
lockoshamface fuck dmt give him what telios cats smoking
@Telios Abraxas Same here, my cats got it right away. But then as 5th dimensional beings, that we can only perceive as cute but murderous fuzzy animals, seems to work in their intellectual advantage better than the 'dumb dog effect' works for dogs. :p
I had a similar experience with my goldfish.
This wins the internet for today. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
After careful examination and re-examination, I’ve concluded he seems to be speaking words of some kind.
About something awesome, I’m sure.
I’m not so sure, Aegis.
I think it might be the demon speaking.
🤣
Maybe Latin.....Draconic?
Poor Shrodinger. One of the biggest influences of current quantum physics knowledge and explanations known, and he was trying to debunk the entire idea of quantum physics. Shrodingers Cat, a thought experiment intended to ridicule the idea of probability collapse, was proven true and became one of the pillars of quantum computing.
Wtf you saying 💀
@@Certz897 things that require a higher intellect than you have in order to comprehend. He's talking about schrodinger paradox and how it is a cornerstone in the understanding of the collapse of wave functions in relation to quantum mechanics.
@@nia.d33 as interesting this is none of this stuff matters
@@Certz897 your phone uses quantum physics
@@Certz897 sure luis just switch this off and take some more selfies bro
In the words of the late great Colonel Sanders, “I’m too drunk to taste this chicken.”
Im too colonel to taste this drunk
I'm too drunk to taste this colonel
I'm too chicken to taste this colonel.
@@TheRealChilly you win
Im too epstein didnt to taste this kill himself
I have so much respect Joe, for having these intellectuals on your podcast. Keep booking guys like this 👍
Intellectuals?? But yet ZERO facts like most bullshit scientists. All ifs buts and maybes. Con men trying to sell books and win million dollar nobel prizes.
@@toomuch9762 no evidence? I mean, granted in this domain of hypothetical interpretations of Quantum mechanics, yeah it's merely conjecture, but they are not trying to tout it as rigorous scientific fact... Still the moniker "intellectual" holds.
He just got exposed for cheating on his wife, but by all means respect him based on his choice of guest.
They should bring Tom Campbell on the show already. That would be for the ages. Cmon Joe.
Need to bring on scientists who disagree with the mainstream scientists, joe has been good about bringing in Randall Carlson and Robert Schoch, but he needs some people who disagree with the astrophysicist and mathematicians who keep making up new theories that make absolutely no sense, there's plenty of scientists who disagree strongly with string theory, many worlds and inflation theory, I'm surprised Joe hasn't had some on honestly
"You are assigning a degree of confidence to your lack of perfect knowledge". @8.28 - What a great sentence
Dez nuts were assigning a degree on ur chin
If you think about it, that's we always do. We have perfect knowledge about basically nothing. Tomorrow a meteor could destroy life on Earth. But I'm pretty sure that it's statistically improbable so I should put the alarm clock anyway
Quote of a lifetime. Quote of the arrogant. Quote of the ......... ah fuck what was I gonna say now?..... shit.....
Will Roberts there is an interesting discussion of that phenomenon discussing fractals that if I remember correctly it is generally not possible to measure coastlines without fractals.
Intelligence on this level while still being able to communicate and interact with anyone on basically any subject, and do it comfortably... is a rare thing.
@@glenndouglas8822 no it isn’t. Do you plan to retire? You need to understand the philosophical issues with Bayesian probability in order to do so competently or to understand the fundamental errors in our expressed market errors.
Is this unfair? Yup.
Being able to communicate complex ideas in simple ways that anyone can understand is a sign of intelligence. Probably because a lot of people who think they’re intelligent are just good at memorisation and so they can only regurgitate what they believe they’ve heard. They can’t break things down to their simplest parts because they don’t actually understand them. One of my favourite books since I first read it in 6th grade is “Flowers for Algernon” and it’s a lot about what intelligence actually is, and how people see themselves and others thru that lens.
@@glenndouglas8822 it does not, putting
/s after a comment means it is sarcasm. An ampersand (...) could mean anything
@rico9163 /s has never gained the traction originally hoped.
So many are unable to recognize sarcasm, and text is often a poor vehicle for often dearly needed facetiousness.
Sir there is a difference between intelligence and intellect left vs Right. Hence we have a IQ test and a EQ test. Sean is intellectual not intelligent. Get it right. As much as Eistien was a sellout he was extremely intellectual he was never intelligent. Other wise if he was intelligent he would not of have been used by the CIA and MIC(milatary industrial complex).
Sean Carroll’s style of delivery is so calm and patient. Whilst I know next to nothing of theoretical physics and quantum mechanics, he motivates me to learn - as all great teachers do.
Agreed!!! 😃
Firstly, Einstein's Relativity is relatively accurate... *From a certain point of view* . Einstein believed that the speed of light in a vacuum is a Universal Constant, and proceeding from this assumption allows you to create a consistent framework with a strong predictive value for understanding observational physics.
But Einstein made a critical error. Einstein insisted that no particular frame of reference pertains to his theory, but in referencing the vacuum in his attempt to quantify the speed of light as a Universal constant, he unwittingly made the vacuum itself the frame of reference for his theory.
Alternatively, we could make the Earth the point of reference for our own model of the Universe. If we assume that the Earth is stationary at the center of the Universe, we can calculate the motion of the Universe around the Earth. Then, rather than the speed of light, it is the Earth itself which would become the key Universal constant. The speed of light moving in a particular direction relative to the motion of the Universe around the Earth would be the "cosmic speed limit", and our physical model based on this assumption would have the same predictive value as Einstein's Relativity.
So the key to understanding Relativity really has nothing to do with the particular framework Einstein established. It has to do with the manifestation of a particular phenomenon that will appear in any Relativistic framework no matter what your "Universal constants" are: the singularity.
Any Relativistic model of the Universe will appear to show the Universe "emerging" and "expanding" from an infinitesimal point. An infinitesimal point is not a discrete finite point, it is a conceptual point of reference characterized by an infinite procession of physics.
So, what are the implications for quantum mechanics?
The event horizon is key to unlocking the mysteries of the quantum realm. The event horizon is the present relative to the past/future (and again, this is true no matter how you frame your Relativistic model of the Universe). The event horizon is characterized by two points of reference: the infinitesimal point from which the Universe expands, and the infinitesimal point towards which the event horizon proceeds.
The particle lives on the event horizon, and the "probability function" (its "wave status") is derived from these two points of reference. Its "particle status" is derived from the *observed present* , the event horizon. All effect exists relative to infinite cause, and all cause exists relative to infinite effect. Experience exists relative to observation.
Relativity and quantum mechanics have always been compatible, but only when we recognize these theories for what they signify, as opposed to the mainstream interpretation that the theories themselves are validation of the assumptions underlying the consensus framework.
@@ericfarina3935 Many thanks for you’re detailed and most erudite comment. As a layman I am obviously baffled by much here although I do follow, if that makes sense. Couple of points/observations:
As regards using a vacuum as a frame of reference, I would empathise with space being in such a state.
The event horizon has to be a constant being forever present.
Observation is key to the quantum experience.
Obviously there is so much more here and it would take me a long time to develop even a rudimentary comprehension, but I’m willing to read and learn. That’s what it’s all about!
@@kdee8166 I am also a layman. I take a particular perspective on these matters that I believe is grounded in logic and evidence, stemming from a simplified perspective on the key fundamentals.
I think you are absolutely right in saying the event horizon is a constant relative to observation, but the event horizon is also an illusion. It is a perceptual manifestation of the limits of observation relative to reality.
The Singularity is the *real* constant. It is all that was, is, or ever will be, an infinite precession of physics proceeding through the present ad infinitum.
So true, thanks thanos in a beanie
You have no idea how many people have dedicated their lives to research the information that this man has presented in this podcast today. He stands on the shoulders of many giants. Fascinating times to be alive in
Sir Isaac Newton
.........and a mathematician.....
.............and a dickhead.
and a virgin
@@diobrando9685 Hey you don't need to rub it in his face like that. Not nice
Joe had the experience which all philosophy students have: turns out all of your interesting ideas were already thought of by somebody, then either shown to be deeply flawed, or better articulated and examined than you ever could have managed yourself. That's why its so hard to come up with a PhD proposal!
Shut up meg
Sounds like your salty about taking philosophy
@@tannermeche7968 Nope, I'm salty that I can't think of what to do for my PhD application, because I learned in my masters degree that all my 'original' ideas turned out to be old. Quitting my job to study something interesting was the least salt-inducing thing I've ever done.
@@monkeymox2544 If most of the graduates of a system of higher education are not capable of original thought, then does higher education really exist? Or is intellectual progress really a factor of the wave function of the universe. There you go.......you're welcome. :P
@@MrBottlecapBill haha cheers, I'll get my proposal written up immediately!
If there was ever a person to ask if they've tried DMT, this is the guy
Lol
Problem solved lol
Sean Carroll is one of my favorite "physics storytellers", soft spoken, gentle in his appearance with the ability to give us mortals a chance to even try to understand. In other words a great teacher with enthusiasm and passion to make others understand his love for the science.
There hasn't been a "household name" among science popularizers since Carl Sagan. Too much competition? Poor public relations? I like that many folks such as Carroll are bringing science to the public, but I miss having a main one that everybody knew about.
Really like him too
I like him also... He was really good in 'The Office'
@@stevenscott2136 I love this guy, try to listen to his podcast. But I think the forefront of a lot of these conversations about how the universe works has just gone far beyond what the average person can comprehend. Even the dumbed down version makes no sense to me at all, and I always did well in school. When he's talking about things easy to understand he's fascinating, when he's talking about his work it's just beyond me. Like watching a grandmaster make a move in chess that I don't understand.
We went to the same school. Probably have his pic in the yearbook. I have to check.
This is the smartest fanciest way of saying “fuck idk shit happens” I’ve ever heard
For sure
😂
Most religions on earth: Shit happens and it's your fault.
Taoism: Observe that shit happens.
Science: Shit has happened, is currently happening and will happen...ain't it cool!
Finally something i understand!
Yep
At first I thought LaPlace’s Demon was going to be something supernatural in a cave in Romania where weird stuff happens. Lol
Somebody should make an RPG where all the monsters are personifications of paradoxes and scientific concepts.
Right?! Lol I thought it would be some exorcism story or the likes
As I scroll down the comment section, reading interesting and intelligent comments, I thought I had a piece of hair on my screen. When I tried to wipe it off, I then realized that it's your profile picture
@@universalthinking7981 I done the exact same thing pappi
I clicked because I thought it said "Lapdance Demon" and was disappointed.
When you realize your dyslexic.
Lol 😂
Son of a bitch ....no lapdance demon ?......
Lmao same
😂 hilarious, but wouldn't "Lapdance Angle" be better than a Demon? I associate demons with torture myself 🤣
“I wrote a little article in Quantum Magazine.” Must’ve been pretty damned small.
@Briggs M vi
Just don't try to measure how small it is
Weekend Racer story of ur life eh?
It’s everywhere and nowhere in the eternal now
Quanta magazine
To be honest, I was hoping for more demon than Laplace.
Ha ha. I live in Louisiana and we have a city named LaPlace. I thought it was going to be about a demon possession story from LaPlace.
Same
Same here ;)
Lol 😏 yeah.
Same
I'm a physicist (doing a master's at the moment) and came here for Carroll. I've always seen memes and stuff about Joe and people like to paint him as stupid, and so that was what I was expecting here. I am thoroughly impressed. These are really really good questions and even if he doesn't understand the material on a deeper level, it seems he has really good intuition and clever ideas.
Joe will go down as the greatest interviewer of our time , He is so versatile, knows when to get out of the way and when to press a point . Doesn't matter if he was interviewing Carroll or name wildest character you can think of pick one. He is the best . If somebody calls him anything but brilliant they are speaking out of ignorance and they just don't know his work at all.
Nerd
@@EazzyEEEThe Older generation that grew up on Radio no cell phones, computers would beg to differ. Though Joe is great in his time I would bet even he listened to Art Bell interviews late nights. Art Bell was the original. RIP❤
@@jules-marcdavis6843 I listened to Art Bell back 90’s in the AM radio . His show was pioneering for sure one of the best radio voices ever . I still listen to his archives in YT when I crash at night . Nostalgic af
@@EazzyEEE calm down lol no he certainly will not. He does not know when to get out of the way. Maybe here where he's speaking with an expert he can - but with other comedians (his own field) he's consistent with missing jokes and walking over other peoples.
I like Joe but this kind of idol worship is pathetic
Joe kind of looks like a Minecraft villager
Spilly Sock-Spock yo did you hear ravagers can teleport you? Steve, dig that up
fuckoff now that you say it I see it when he turns his head down. Fuckin neanrethall
Fucker
Nuts
hunh...
I feel smart cause I think, there was a zero percent chance that lee harvey oswald was the lone shooter....I solved the lapdance demon.
🤣 underrated comment needs 1k more likes 👍🏻
yeah i don't think haley joel osment was even alive back then
@@brian_ego he was the dead person 😳
The comments are heaps more entertaining than the podcast 🤣
lmao
I just love that here we have a philosopher-physicist and a comedian talking about the fundamental probabilistic nature of reality and there are 500k+ views. There is hope for us yet.
EDIT: 1M+ views
EDIT: 2M+ views
Problematic...
Nope. Problematic assigns a dissatisfaction with an answer while the use of the created word "probilistic" one could construe to mean dealing with probabilities
As in were probly all fucked . Probly
@@samtemple6459 *Prolly...
Well said.
I am always floored when someone who is this vastly intelligent and well versed in such a complicated topic, can explain things in a way that are objectively understandable to someone with very little knowledge on the topic. He understands when a question isn’t phrases right because a word or phrase could be defined multiple ways. Im just amazed.
Me too. Amazing talent for describing complicated things in a simple manner. Awesome gift he has.
Yeah he described the color blue in an interview and blew everyone's mind.
Ironically your compliment is vastly described, although well versed it seems complicated, therefore making you kinda hypocritical
@@lordserbian3841 my brain though your name was lesbianlord lmfao
Didn't Einstein say something about being able to explain something to children?
I feel like I just walked into a lecture and spent the whole time trying to figure out if I was in the right class
That actually happened to me one time in my college daze. It was the start of a new semester and I walked into a large lecture hall in the Math & Sciences Building and sat down. Class started and the professor was explaining the syllabus and the topics to be discussed and I realized I wasn't in a math class, but rather a nursing biology class. I really wanted to crawl out of there on my hands and knees, but knew that wouldn't work, so I just stayed and pretended I was supposed to be there.
@@pagamenews 😂 then you probably missed the class you were supposed to be in. One thing that was nice about the large lectures in college is we were allowed to attend if we didn’t belong.Good way to try out potential electives for next semester.
😂😂😂
Yep I’ve been in that room👍
Same 😂
We need Eddie Bravo to explain this to the rest of us
carlos garcia or you can “look into it” yourself as he always recommends
@@JZETH_ lmao, i love how he knows he's perceived as crazy and warns u bout what he bout to say before he says it lmao or when he hears someone talk some woke shit he will ask a question as if he didnt already spend 10 thousand hours researching it on youtube
No, we don't. I used to like listening to Eddie, but he is a nut case these days. His assertions are dangerous. the uneducated or undereducated will listen to him and take him seriously in a lot of cases. Not a good thing.
Eddie busy building a flux capacitor
I would love to hear Eddie's interpretation of all this.
Joe's reaction @ 7:04 is spot on......all these big media tools want to know what Joe has that they don't, and it's quite simple, Joe KEEPS IT REAL !!
Joe has a shiny head.
Oh please.
We need more interviews like this. If all humans could think like this without difficulty, imagine the possibilities for our greater society.
It depends on the percentage of people that might have good or bad intentions with such knowledge.
There are people who don't even have an internal monologue, nor the ability to visualize an apple in their mind.
@@doesnotexist6524 that's sad isn't it?
Then nobody would remain who was interested in or willing to maintain the sewer systems.
@@LuxuryLeet It's not sad if they can't comprehend what they are missing. Lol.
A moment of silence for Joe acting like he knows what’s going on
Haha 😄!!
Don’t underestimate the questions he is asking - I have a PhD in theoretical physics and I am rather impressed by the level of questions he is asking.
@@mlguy8376 sure he does bud, I’m the dummy who’s got no clue. 🤣
@@carlosburgos4636 nope you are no dummy - everyone has something that makes other people dummies (if that makes sense). Physics I can hold my own, ask me to change the settings on my thermostat that is another beast all together. Still your original comment was funny!
That is funny!
I met Professor Carol at Caltech once, one of the greatest human beings I ve ever seen in my life, what a gentleman, what an amazing human being. I am so happy that he was interviewed by Joe Rogan.
He got wrecked by William Lane Craig tho
Seen? Sounds like you’re hot for him if anything.
I used to sub to quantum magazine, but every time I open my mailbox there's only a 50% chance of it being there
Ha!
Heck if you opened your mailbox 100 times daily you would get many more issues than most of us!
Maybe you should cut a couple slits in your mailbox and try to record what's happening...
@@hihowareyou6629 both know that kills the cat.
Nice
I love how he notes that the next explanation is going to be hard to wrap your head around as if the previous explanations were super simple to digest.
Joe Rogan is the perfect host. He's smart enough to ask good questions, to get the most out of his more brilliant guests. And he doesn't interrupt when a good point is being made.
No one reply so I assume the message is for me
@@zackpane7973 ŕþg
Unlike Stern ughhhh
@@troybuchanan9980 I know! Can't believe I used to listen to Stern as a kid. Grew out of it pretty quick...he's gross
@@JaymanNVK I do t k ow too much about stern but he does seem pretty gross. I heard awhile back he paid woman to undress themselves in front of him on his show and pays to have their brothers touch them 😬
The greatest achievement a theoretical physicist can achieve in his or her career is convincing others to pay them
To do so.
Theoretically
😄😄
I’ve always wondered how these guys feed their families...
Or if they have families....
these guys are fucking important to the development of science and technology.
😂😂😂😂
“I think I’m decently smart.”
*video ends*
“What did I just watch?”
Kudos to Joe on asking the right questions!
The fact that Joe puts physicists on the show is badass
Physics and dmt go hand in hand
That was the last time
@@badsanta7356 no they don't mind altering drugs are incredibly dangerous
This is how my wife sounds when she talks about makeup.
Bro. 😂 this is my wife talking about how it’s my fault when it clearly wasn’t but still makes such an impressive argument that I just now believe it’s my fault, and at the same time have no idea what I did.
@@shpongle7322 marriage in a nutshell!!😋
@@shpongle7322 that is funny as shit🤣 I feel your pain completely....lmfao
@@shpongle7322 dito
Oh gosh, that was funny. By the way , why is she even trying to explain make up to you ?
Sean Carroll was one of those people I didn't know existed and then decided to give the podcast a listen anyways and realized I had been missing out on an interesting person my entire life before this.
Just found his podcast since you mentioned he has one. Excited for the listens thanks
Same.
Sean makes the best videos. Super articulate in explaining physics. And pokes fun in a charming way.
Firstly, Einstein's Relativity is relatively accurate... *From a certain point of view* . Einstein believed that the speed of light in a vacuum is a Universal Constant, and proceeding from this assumption allows you to create a consistent framework with a strong predictive value for understanding observational physics.
But Einstein made a critical error. Einstein insisted that no particular frame of reference pertains to his theory, but in referencing the vacuum in his attempt to quantify the speed of light as a Universal constant, he unwittingly made the vacuum itself the frame of reference for his theory.
Alternatively, we could make the Earth the point of reference for our own model of the Universe. If we assume that the Earth is stationary at the center of the Universe, we can calculate the motion of the Universe around the Earth. Then, rather than the speed of light, it is the Earth itself which would become the key Universal constant. The speed of light moving in a particular direction relative to the motion of the Universe around the Earth would be the "cosmic speed limit", and our physical model based on this assumption would have the same predictive value as Einstein's Relativity.
So the key to understanding Relativity really has nothing to do with the particular framework Einstein established. It has to do with the manifestation of a particular phenomenon that will appear in any Relativistic framework no matter what your "Universal constants" are: the singularity.
Any Relativistic model of the Universe will appear to show the Universe "emerging" and "expanding" from an infinitesimal point. An infinitesimal point is not a discrete finite point, it is a conceptual point of reference characterized by an infinite procession of physics.
So, what are the implications for quantum mechanics?
The event horizon is key to unlocking the mysteries of the quantum realm. The event horizon is the present relative to the past/future (and again, this is true no matter how you frame your Relativistic model of the Universe). The event horizon is characterized by two points of reference: the infinitesimal point from which the Universe expands, and the infinitesimal point towards which the event horizon proceeds.
The particle lives on the event horizon, and the "probability function" (its "wave status") is derived from these two points of reference. Its "particle status" is derived from the *observed present* , the event horizon. All effect exists relative to infinite cause, and all cause exists relative to infinite effect. Experience exists relative to observation.
Relativity and quantum mechanics have always been compatible, but only when we recognize these theories for what they signify, as opposed to the mainstream interpretation that the theories themselves are validation of the assumptions underlying the consensus framework.
I bet you smell like repressed farts and patchouli oils. Butt that's coolbeans.
When you watch an entire podcast clip and have no idea what just happened.
Ya this guy sucks. He thinks he is such an intellect and profound deep thinker. In reality, he doesn't say sh*t! EVER!!! LOL. This guy is painful to listen too.
@@mattrosich no, he's a little tone deaf to who the audience is. His problem is he says too much too quickly and forgets that he is always the smartest guy in the room
@@brandondriver99 are we all sure he's the smartest guy in the room? That's the perception he carries, but thats it. There is nothing to take away from this rant. Plz explain to me what you got from it. Something profound, or something you're gonna remember from watching this. (Except for this conversation we're having.) That's all i got!! Lol.
Matt Rosich he was talking about the nature of probabilities. Yeah some was high science stuff that you need an education to understand, but the basics are easy to grasp. There is nothing wrong with rewatching it and researching things that he says.
If you can’t then we all know who is stupidest in the room.
@@thinkingmachine354 well Thinking Machine. You call yourself "Thinking Machine" so I dare not oppose you. Great name you made up for yourself. AND BY THE WAY, STUPIDEST??? I GUESS THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T CALL YOURSELF THE "GRAMMAR MACHINE!!!"
People always wanna give Joe shit, but he’s really got the formula down. This is how modern media should work! Scientists and intelligent free thinkers should be as much on the forefront as “influencers” or celebrities/politicians. Without scientific advancements and lifting the scientific community, we wouldn’t be where we are today. They deserve much more appreciation and funding.
My dream is to find something that makes me talk with as much passion as Joe Rogan's guests
Have you tried DMT?
@@wb3191 No haha. LSD and mushrooms though
Really good weed
Fuck dude I hope you're young. Life is full of interesting fields and practices.
There's a good chance that you found it when you were young and had it crushed out of you by adults that thought they knew better. That's usually the case. We all have something, you just have to find it. For me it's anthropology, it's everything I always loved to learn and write about, culture, history, evolution, psychology, biology, all combined, but I didn't know there was a field that included them all until my mid 20's, I just thought I'd have to stay with soul-sucking jobs and reading in my free time longingly. Now I'm studying in my field and I literally cry tears of joy sometimes, to have something that I love so much, that I can do. I never fit in, nobody ever seemed to care about those things, they were too "deep," but I found a small group of people who care about the same things I do, and it's so validating, nothing on the planet could make me happier, especially since I'm already a mom. I think for a lot of people it's something like art, music, or philosophy, all beautiful things, ways of expressing our souls, but we're being told it's all about business, get in marketing, accounting, banking, be a doctor, something that'll make you rich, passion is for naive losers. We're told it's bullshit, you won't make money that way, and many of us let that dream die, sometimes without even knowing how much potential we had to do something with it, they just didn't understand. I hope you recognize that thing and do something with it. It's one of the most blissful things you can ever experience.
Lost me about half way through...always love watching these to humble myself when I think I’m smart
Good shit! Just life!
Absolutely love Sean Carroll. Listened to all of Joe’s interviews with him. He’s a sharp
Mind, love hearing his opinions and learning new things from him.
After double checking his calculations, I find this guy is mostly right; unfortunately, he forgot to carry the one in the last equation.
Rogan is the best, if he didn't shake his jowls I wouldn't have understood about waves and vibrations. Thanks Joe.
No one would even care what you had to say anyways.
@@AstrixCloud just came out blastin 😳
@@kindrahayson7024Ain't no rest for the wicked.
@@AstrixCloud lol double checking his calculations? Gtfoh. Like he’s at a chalkboard or dry erase board for a long time after a Joe Rogan video. Stop it.
@@pab1381 hahaa you didn't get the memo? The comment section on youtube is a platform for peer review study by PhDs 🤣🤣
That’s enough internet for today
Got in bed at 12:00. It is now 5 am. Saw this comment and I felt it
Yep too high I’m out
Lolll frfr
@Matthew Puckett calling someone a addict while your addiction to social media toxicity is showing is pretty ironic.
@@farmsalot1233 lmao
@@farmsalot1233 ended that mans whole career
Anthony Tosh I'll call the hearse.
This is gonna be a tough one to try to regurgitate to my wife next time we smoke
You look 12 bro
@@kartikvyakaranam1710 are you Russian bro
@@Dyl_Cam sorry man, she only smokes with people who aren't trash at skating, maybe work on that "phat hardflip" a little more
Kader Sylla? Is that you?
Bro there are too many bros in this chat bro
Wow finally someone explains it in a way I can better grasp, thx Sean.
He has a youtube channel.
Really? You grasp it?
imagine if the demon was a really good cook, one so good, he could look at a dish and see everything that went into it
After suffering through the recent Neil DeGrasse Tyson episode, Sean Carroll was a real breath of fresh air. Fascinating stuff. Thanks, Joe.
Tyson is a tool
Tyson was a dick to Joe, so concieted and talking down constantly, I agree
Yeah Fuck that guy
Alec Carter balls deep , joe can defend himself
I would like to see Bruce Campbell on the Joe Rogan podcast!
YES!!!!!!!! Why didn't I think of That!!!! How Awesome!!!!
I endorse this idea whole heartedly!
Hell yeah Bruce Bruce is that Dude!
Hell ya!
Groovy
I give this podcast a lot of credit for helping expand my general knowledge, episode aside, solid vocab. I've never been much of a reader but I thoroughly enjoy listening to this kind of content, occasionally.
Me too. Don’t get carried away though cause it’s easy to try too hard and it can be obvious if you’re trying to use words to seem smart.
Joe deserves credit just for smoking Cali weed and still having the available brain cells to absorb all this information and even keep up in order to ask proper questions. Props man.
... perhaps it is the marijuana that allows our pride and ego to subside just enough to recognize how little we each know, simultaneously opening up to the possibility of receiving new information. Just a thought.
I’ve smoked enough cali weed to know it’s not all that. Either that or my tolerance is way to fucking high and need a break from smoking lol
Cali weed if fine.. Vietnam weed is what you to watch out for. It'll mess up your...face man
Weed doesn't kill brain cells.
Susquahana 😮💨
Granted I'm no genius but. This video proved me how much I like Joe and his presence. My 12 minutes went 'oh yeah I do get what he means, ok, now I don't get it again'
Yeah me too, I've studied some quantum mechanics, also read books like 'The Dancing Wu Li Masters' which introduced me to it. I've read plenty of philosophy such as Tao and so can see the relationship between them but still I'm just a kid in the grand scheme of things.
My head literally imploded, exploded, then imploded and put itself together all in the exact same moment, across 7 different dimensions while listening to this.
Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha! Now what was the probability of that? 🤯
Dang
Lol literally huh? Was it painful
@@AmericanSwede1992 it hurt then felt elated then hurt again. Then i was just left feeling confused
@@PrinceChaWulf it was a probability of 62.68793% x the atomic weight of Cobalt
I just shit for the first time in four days.
This guys talking about some mad science shit and the first comment I see is this
You fucking what mate
The information presented stimulated a bowel movement. The first one I had in four days.
@@randyvillegas8610 It was just constipation. Sorry about your experience but thanks for sharing.
Try not going for 3 weeks, then get back to me.
When Joe needs a nap, his guest is a quantum physicist.
🤣😂😂
Sorry if YOU are bored, but Joe actually seems to be into it.
It's one of the most interesting fields in all of science
You utter bellend
@@ryanstarkweather3625 he's not gonna date ya
Joe "I came up with a theory, but it's not my idea" Rogan
He means he came up with it independently.
😂😭
@MartyAU pure salt
@@Brian-vk1hm Except he didn't. Firas Zahabi told him -.-. Fucking hell joe....
I now always go to the comments to see if their is a Joe "insert sentence" Rogan
Thank you sir
If the topic fascinates you, read the Foundation series by Isaac Asimov. Everything is based on the assumption that, by calculating the past and the present, the future of humanity can be predicted and forged.
Its a real masterpiece.
Eh no. If you can calculate the future by knowing the past and present, it implies a deterministic universe. If the universe is deterministic you can't 'forge' it because it's predetermined.
@@Sparclen Harry Seldon’s Equations predict what happens to individual humans like statistical mechanics predicts how individual molecules act. It is not Clockwork. Therefore, you can “forge history” because your behavior is not determined by the whole set, merely influenced, and you can influence your neighboring particles, and with will, knowledge, and maybe a bit of nonsense (the Union of Asimov’s story lines, and I’ll leave that as an exercise for the reader), one can influence the outcomes at critical points and maybe produce desired outcomes.
As an example, the Mule was entirely a random event which should have changed everything, but the Second Foundation played mini-mules and firstly, converted the Mule into an administrator rather than staying a conqueror, then over the centuries reset everyone onto a trajectory back to the form of a new galactic empire in less than 20,000 years of a darkness age.
@@Egilhelmson wtf did I just read?
Joe “uhhhhh..can we talk about elk meat now?” Rogan
Hahahaha😂😂
Right.
Simple man 👨
@@ntactime_w3488 But do you know how to kill and cook elk 50 different ways?
How do you pronounce your last name?
I literally grabbed my phone to pause this as soon as Joe said people would be pausing this…
I mean I didn't pause but rewinding 10 secs back few times XD
Facts!
Sean Carroll can do a side job as a voice actor for The Simpsons.
He sounds kind of like James Woods sometimes
Got a little ned flanders in him
Haha working at the power plant
I love science and philosophy both equally as much. In fact, science wouldn't exist without the philosophical thinkers of history.
R
Absolutely.... kinda like religion and science
Science is the absence of philosophy. Science at it's very core is all about practice, practice, and more practice in STEM fields or related fields. Philosophy is more often than not just a witty, and perhaps generalized phrasology or personal "mantra" someone developed for themselves and their agenda. You may need a philosophy to perhaps push a scientific idea forward, but more as a vague inspiration rather than a guideline.
@@zaxbitterzen2178 i suppose irony here is that your position is a philosophical position seemingly with an agenda
Akin to sci fi books in a sense, can be just as philosophical as purposeful philosophy.
Joe “see that’s where you lost me” Rogan
Hahaj
He lost Joe the moment he uttered a word.
Mate every clip has a joe "something something something" rogan comment . Get a job u repetitive un funny fanny
@@samtemple6459 agreed..not once have I laughed at these shitty jokes
I lost dez nuts on your chin
Joe is like, "I've not had enough DMT for this conversation."
This, i.e. the Joe Rogan Experience, is the best show ever, not always, but very often it is. Thank you so much Joe.
5:50 “It’s a clockwork universe... because of the implication”
- Dennis - It’s Always Sunny
Dennis system is in full swing
Kaddywompous oh my God I was thinking of the same thing when he said that. The gang buys a boat is my favorite episode. Well done Kaddywompus you kick ass! "Are these women in any danger?"
I laughed too hard at this
A high probability that "WE are the 'tasty treats' in this situation..''
There's only one step of the dennis system that matters and that's the last one.... Separate Entirely
Yeah, i remember that being a pretty tough Dark Souls boss
Bait a strike and roll behind him
Then keep on rolling
Chug more estes
FightingCowboy here on TH-cam has a guide for that.
😂😂😂
Penny and feather in a vacuum Force required to maintain the penny before the shelf is moved is different than the force required to keep the feather stationary once both fall the penny isn't done falling it still has to cool down higher density higher excited state
The thing I love about joe Rogan is that no matter what guest he has and what subject matter they talk about is the fact that joe Rohan is so insightful about all aspects of conversation. I feel like he is a well rounded mind. He isn’t a professional in any aspect of intellectual conversations but he has an idea of how all things work and he is so open to what has to be said and he obtains this information given to him he analyzes it for himself snd makes his own opinions on subjects. He’s not a follower he’s a leader. And he just sucks this info up like a sponge and uses it alinternalizes it.
Having a well rounded mind or thinking about things in a well rounded way is extremely dangerous to our democracy!
dmt will do it
Two thousand hours wasted on destiny and destiny 2, I really should put down the controller and read more
I,HAD 1200 IN DESTINY 1 AND DLC'S ,I KNEW I SHOULD BUY NUMBER 2 SO I didnt So I could do other stuff.2 years later Im playing my old.favorite borderlands ...That was the game that
got me into looter shooters,now its bl3
Throw it out. Smash it. I gave up gaming around ten years ago. It fucked up a lot in my life. It's so easy to forget reality when immersed in another one. Until life (and wife) kicks you in the face and tells you to grow the fuck up. Good luck man.
What would Shaxx say?
LS6-SS facts
@@ls6-ss413 To each his own. I'd say smash it only if you're not gaining anything meaningful out of that time spent. Borderlands was the foundation of my marriage. I now have an amazing family, house, a successful business & just about anything I ever dreamt of. If we weren't at the house spending quality time on the Xbox we would have been out partying getting hammered and most likely jailed. There would have been drunken arguments and I surely would have been irrational at some point. If you really feel like gaming is time wasted, that's when you smash it.
When you go from feeling smart to drooling in 15 seconds flat
Why would you drool? Is Joe or Sean you're drooling over. *nudge, nudge, wink, wink * know what i mean? Know what i mean? say no more, say no more. -Monty Python.
I'm a moron.
😂 sense of humour , without ,nothing matters
I wonder if the guy who designed that shirt ever thought it would end up on a theoretical quantum whatever professor.
You're a quantum whatever.
He said that there was a high probability.
He felt it would be random but inevitable
6:50 guy just postulated how individual free will can coexist in a reality with an omniscient, omnipotent deity. Mind blown.
What made you say that?
he does have a point, very interesting. tho it would mean complete omniscience is impossible. but if it is possible i can only think of an omniscient being cycling about itself's thoughts.
Complete omniscience is only impossible for a vantage point that participates in the wave function in that it can predict everything except what happens to itself. What if the intelligence in question transcends it?
It's not so much free will as indeterminism
Seemed very much to me that free will cannot exist in this framework
I don't get the impression that Joe pre-plans more than the initial direction/question. His ability to ask the correct "next" question is just flat impressive. So good at steering the discussion towards clarity...always clarity.
Philosophy is what my mind does all day long. Its what I like talking about the most, writing about the most and thinking about the most. I'm not formally educated but philosophy has always come easy and left me in good spirits. A core facet that I like, is that the subject never ends, and anything may fall under the scope.
Why don't you explain it to me like I'm 10...
Ok, why don't you explain it to me like I'm 5?
I'll be 6
Starting you're own lemonade stand is difficult - " I know what a surplus is" lmao
I hope this is a Psych reference
Dual slot experiment shows observing the wave function collapses it. The Demon says I can predict everything by observing all the wave functions. I predict the demon wants to collapse the universe. You felt confused because you were gaslighted by a 2%er (at best). Joe's IQ doesn't provide him the ability to recognize Grandiose Narcissism at the Mensa level. Feel better?
best comment lol just saw this episode last night
Imagine trying to ban a show that can bring you this sort of content with a host that keep the audience and the guest this happy.
Weed helps 😌👌
Liberalism is a dangerous mental disorder
For real!
They don't want you happy or knowledgeable. They want you stupid and angry.
That is why they would try to ban it.
This discussions are interesting but at the end I always come away thinking quantum physics is a fancy way of saying “We have no clue”.
I mean we have quantum computers... so we do have alot of good clues. At the moment those computers mess up alot but the concepts are known
Or when they call everything "theory"
Science.
I always feel like I'm just starting to understand quantum physics and then some new wacky thing is introduced and it all falls apart again
We know enough to make accurate predictions about reality, but we don't truly understands reality. Ultimately limited by our senses and brain. Some hoped math/science was the answer to overcoming these limitations, but physics has reached the point of unconfirmable theory. In other words, it is now in the realm of philosophy.
Can watch these physicists forever. The masters of perspective
James Woods is pretty smart.
🤣🤣🤣
Piece of candy?!
That's how we know this guy isn't that Cult 45 MAGAt: He has an intellect in excess of 50, unlike Woods.
Do they teach this at James Woods High?
@@johnslone6790 No doubt. Libtards can't even take a joke and enjoy it. The triggering never stops.
This explains every Rick and Morty episode
bruh
particularly the clone beth idea. season 4 finale for spoilers...
I'm smart enough to know this guy makes me feel really dumb.
You have humility. That’s a good thing. He knows a lot about a little (I’m assuming of course) but maybe you are like me and know a little about everything. Some things a lot more than others but you have intelligence even though you were making a funny comment.
@@Smokeyxz lol, thanks. I try to stay humble but do enjoy learning from those who are true subject matter experts. I have a wide range of interests and understanding our universe is certainly among them!
I guarantee that you know more than him in certain subjects
@@TheBadGuy15 lol, you're probably right but Joe Rogan isn't calling me to be a guest on his podcast, though!
@@steveparish4209 doesn't matter... Trust me, these scientism-types are mouthpieces for theories and postulations to make them sound like absolute facts, which they are not
Thank you Joe Rogan. This guy sitting there having "small-talk" about things over my head, but it's so important to hear brilliant people.
Notice he corrected joe by saying "Laplace" at the beginning of his sentence, subtly, instead of "Lapozz". That's how you politely correct someone. You dont stop the conversation and entire concept dead in its tracks by pointing out someone mispronounced something, like a child, as if THEYRE the idiot. Take note internet.
,👏👏👏👏👏👆👆Yes!!!!
Sure but strange for you to write a paragraph about it
@@bossmanbangerz it'd be strange to write about it if people just got that. But they don't.
@Zyn Gremlin I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not, but if you aren't friends with someone, harming their ego over something as stupid as the pronunciation of a single syllable isn't wise. A human ego is no small matter, I've seen people get their unconcious bodies beaten on asphalt, with no one to step in and stop the peehaps lifelong damage being done to them, over harming the wrong person's ego. It's rude, and it just isn't smart. Most people don't care though, which ironically, is often because of THEIR ego.
It's kind of ironic that you're stopping everybody to correct them.
Me: *watching this video intensely*
My Brain: AhhDerrpaaderpDuhrr
Derped
It think your A10 gun is broken.
I derped so hard man
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ok thx 4 sharing that ur an idiot lol
Laplace's Demon = Dr. Manhattan
Yeah.
How sad it is that these ppl who think they know so much will realize when they meet their maker they didn't know anything at all.
So, park your brain like you do. Isn't it great that not everyone thinks the same? What a boring sad place it will be when we all think like you. Amen pff
@nanique6923 You're funny. Lumping me in with collective thinking, saying I park my brain. 🙄 You don't know anything about me. What I do know is the one true God. I hope you along with these people find Him before it's too late. Throwing around Amen...that really cracks me up. Pff back atcha.
What the F are you even trying to say? Just don't do anything because you die in the end, and than you also abuse the name of the Lord?
Shame on you.
I've listened to this 3 times and it seemingly makes less and less sense hahah. The wave form squared just sounded like a bunch of guys try a bunch of shiz with a wave and see if the results sound interesting. Maybe they square it today, maybe they divide it tomorrow, seriously, i have no idea. I would love to know how this actually binds together, to help us explain our universe.
You know this is a comment section, right asshole?
You're not ALONE! lol
I've taken a quantum mech course at university in my electrical engineering bachelor's programme. The "probability is wave function squared" statement is an axiom that you can verify in the lab.
The term "wave function" is named quite unfortunately. It should be "state function". It's nothing more than a mathematical tool: there "is" no state function, but you can construct one, and then do math with it. Schrödinger's big thing is that he had an equation that could predict the evolution of that mathematical tool in time/space. Whenever you square the tool (after taking the complex magnitude, but whatever) you get probability, which you can measure as follows.
If you have an electron trapped in an electrical pit, you can construct a state function that evolves in time and has different values in different place of the pit. The state function is an abstract thing that doesn't exist. However, now duplicate your setup a billion times, and measure the position of each electron. If you were to graph where the electron is found, you'll see that it's the same curve as the state function squared.
The whole "state function is a woozy mathematical tool that doesn't exist" thing is quite common in physics. Newtonian mechanics revolve around forces. Guess what? Those don't exist either. We invented forces because nature does shit, and we wanted some way to talk about that with math. If you could ask nature, she wouldn't know what "a force" was. But if it predicts experiments accurately, we tend to talk about these things as if they actually exist.
That’s quantum mechanics in real time 😂
It's squared to make the probability a positive value.
Joe ‘Laplace stole my idea’ Rogan.
Joe is so stoned he forgot about just hearing it the week before probably.
This is the lone episode where I think Rogan knew he shouldn't smoke weed before this content...
its always a good time to smoke weed . just gotta select a strain that conpliments the desired activity .. no naughty night time indica for this interview
“If you think you understand quantum physics, you don’t understand quantum physics.” - Richard Feynman