I have ADHD and don't be fooled by the name of the syndrome, actually the atention defficit and hiperactivity is not the hardest part of this disorder, what is really hard for me is the emotional disregulation, lack of motivation to do things of finish tasks, sleep disorders, impulsivity or compulsivity wich leads to adictions and strange behaviors and habits, feeling always like the world and the people are not on the same page as I am, feeling disconnected and just stuck in some kind of limbo thats feels like agony, I feel like Im just staying alive but not really living, not enjoying life and constantly failing to do the simplest tasks for normal people and to find them wort doing them.
maybe you also have asperger?...I mean just because you mentioned feeling disconnected and and that the world/people are not on the same page. and people with asperger often also have ADHD (comorbid).
I’ve had ADHD my entire life. The deficit is not that I can’t pay attention to things, it’s that I pay attention to everything and can’t filter anything. People can say what they want about meds but they changed my life at 54 years old. It was like taking off the cheapest, itchiest sweater you can ever imagine and finally being comfortable in my skin.
hope they still work for you in x years; meds are fantastic for a while making everyone feel great- until it just blows up later when they aren't as good as they used to be (tolerance) and end up on a max dosage; i.e. come to the end of a damn rope - anyway; sorry to be so negative- I'm just sick of seeing friends, family and loved ones suffer while some doctor thinks he did such a great job because it worked for a few years...in all honesty tho...hope your story goes differently; same with anyone else who may read this
@@kratz.fitness So, several things. I am a social worker but the job I was in was mostly training for agencies and personnel regarding DV and child abuse. However, that job was being rewritten to include clinical social work (individual and family counseling). I avoided clinical social work my entire career because the thought of being trapped in an office for hour long sessions with patients seemed overwhelming. It also meant taking a national exam for a clinical social work license. I had not taken a national exam since 1995. Also, my father was about midway through the fatal disease of dementia so I was working plus helping my mother quite a bit. That limited my time and energy and forced me to be much more organized than I was. I didn’t have the luxury of letting things get behind because there was no time to catch up with things. At the same time, I was working with a psychiatrist at my job who gave a workshop on adult ADHD and it solidified how ADHD I was (based on the sample screening tool).
I'm 54yo male, recently diagnosed with adult ADD and even my default escape 'daydreaming' brings no relief these days. I have never achieved anything, just bumbling through life, one anxious over whelming episode after another, poor at schoo, no academic achievment. No friends is the hardest part and no family support. I get why male suicide is so common around men my age. There has to be something better than this as I am so tired these days.
Brother, I’m here with you, it is not a fun condition, it is not happy condition to have and i wish people understood how horrible it can be, life is a party no one wants you at, ignores you when youre there unless its to point out your flaws, where no one can relate to you
I am a physician and have dealt with ADHD my entire life. I have read virtually every notable piece of literature on this neurologic disorder. The single biggest mistake clinicians make is looking at ADHD through the prism of attention, or lack thereof. ADHD is far more involved and goes way beyond attention pathology. It is a constant state of (relative) anxiety and desire for stimulus. Going to church, waiting in lines, listening to boring conversation...all of these things can be excruciating for ppl with ADHD.
I agree. There is an underlying agitation in the body and the mind becomes restless searching for a distraction to this discomfort. For many, this agitation can be below the threshold of conscious awareness. The constant switching of attention is the seeking of relief. TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises), can do a lot to discharge this agitation and calming the mind. This is a self-help tool that can be learned through youtube videos, treforall website, an app etc.
@@christinaguimond1706 Yes. Sadly, some ppl attempt to alleviate this agitated state in a self-destructive manner. For those who suffer the most, controlling their condition can be all-encompassing. I find it exhausting at times.
Can they just give in to the pain of the anxiety, let it run it's course, then re-train amygdala to be easily reactive instead of lying there dead to the world?
@@azdbuk The underlying pathology is most likely a neurotransmitter problem....as opposed to a neuroanatomical issue anywhere in the limbic system. Selective areas of DA deficiency (and likely other neurotransmitters) is thought to be the main pathology. At this point the underlying pathology is not completely understood.
Just diagnosed at 25, was called lazy my entire life, and abused for bad grades. I felt stupid and dropped out of college at 19. JRE became my podcast of choice, and over time, listening to the various guests on the show, I’ve been inspired to read various books by them. Today, I’m on my medication, and have re-enrolled in school in the hopes of putting the first man on Mars. I’m reading regularly, working out, and facing my fears one day at a time. It’s ok to not be ok 👌🏼
I got diagnosed with ADD when I was 60, 3 years ago, it explained so much of why my life had been the way it had since I was a kid. I felt so much compassion for the young boy, teenager and man I had been, and why some things always seemed more of a struggle for me than others. They offered me Amphetamines, but I said no thank you I did all that in the 80s and 90s, Ive have survived life so far and am perfectly happy the way I am. Thank you for sharing this JRE.
I was 56. While I was happy to finally have some treatment, there was a bit of sadness thinking of what could have been if my parents were a little more willing to accept that my behavior wasn’t a character issue.
51 at my diagnosis. I had been struggling with the “bipolar” diagnoses I was given 20 years before. I was medicated for years with antipsychotic drugs which made me feel worse, I tried telling Drs, yes I was depressed at the time but no I do not have Bipolar. That diagnoses was finally dropped when I was 49, and at that time my son was diagnosed with adhd, the more I researched it the more the prices fell into place. When I received my adhd combined type I cried, the relief at knowing that there was something different in the way my brain worked, I also felt sad when I thought back to how much damage this has caused to my self esteem, my relationships, the chaos my life had been. It was like I was finally heard. Now I can use tools I have learnt and implement them into my everyday life, to help things run a little more smoothly. Although adhd has caused problems, it has also been my super power as well. I wouldn’t change who I am but I wish that I had of had the opportunity to have had someone really take the time to listen to my concerns and dig a little deeper to find a diagnoses sooner, years were wasted in a drug induced antipsychotic medication filled stupor, it was a difficult time and I can not remember a lot of the earlier years of my children growing up.
Having ADHD and being unaware of it and undiagnosed with it is literally one of the most isolating feelings that makes you feel insecure about yourself and hate yourself for a long, long time. Watching everyone else do something you can’t do, and finally coming to terms that you are simply just born “stupid” and “lazy” And then one day getting diagnosed with ADHD, it is the most emotional feelings in the world, everyone who’s been diagnosed often say the same thing “I feel so bad for my younger self, I’m so sorry to my younger self, I gave myself such a hard time and made myself accept that it couldn’t be helped” the reason why is because taking medication for the first time literally feels like being blind your whole life then 23 years into your life finally putting on a pair of glasses and finally seeing the world at its clearest. Medication is like finally being able to understand the world at its clearest, control our functions with ease, and do simple tasks that you couldn’t do before.
Personally I think I may have it, but I really don't care. I think having the hard concrete fact of knowing has the potential to give me a excuse, I also feel it may make me more aware of how I work and in regards to my life working backwards as well as the opportunity to build upon it as needed. Me personally though I like not knowing. Idk why but It creates the space thats only for me and I feel so far through my life I have been able to deal with whatever it is at hand. Sure I know my flaws. I know what I need help with, or need to learn better yet. I havent had to yet reach out for help in that regard. I have had a moment where I just didn't understand anything about myself but I think it just lies in that. The choice to face yourself. Some need to know to help this some don't. Maybe I do go and find out myself in the future, but just perspective Tldr: I don't believe i need to know, at least yet. I believe that working on yourself is the key to dealing with whatever may be even if you need support
As a child I can remember watching some kids read books for fun. I thought those people were truly oddballs. I can remember asking myself why anyone would want to torture themselves by reading the same paragraph over and over again before staying focused enough to ‘get it’. I had no way of knowing I was the ‘oddball’.
Medication is not the answer for everyone. In my case it made things worse. I didn’t like the way it made me feel at all & honestly I find that doing mental exercises & setting small goals towards one big goal in mind & other things I do work better. Exercise definitely helps too. Most ppl are just too lazy to try new or different things and rely too much on big pharma. That shit made me a zombie, no thanks. Natural cures for me. Cannabis helps too. I find that my hyper-focus on certain things is actually a blessing.
Adhd Reddit thread has a great community. There are like maybe 3 threads, I forgot which one I follow but everyday there is a post from someone talking about what they thought was a weird quirk of theirs which usually ends up being an adhd thjng.
@@JennaLeeEquals3 Medication just makes me more outgoing, then I crash. Meds messed me up. Nutrition and exercise are the foundation of managing symptoms
Having ADD is horrendous. In elementary school I was the village idiot, and they labeled me "feeble minded." I daydreamed my way through every class. Things were no better in highschool, and I graduated at the bottom of my class. At that point I just assumed I had a very low IQ, and my self esteem was in the toilet. Yet I'm a gifted musician and photographer, I love to write, and I read every day. I'm constantly restless and craving stimulation. I meditate and study scripture every morning which has been tremendously beneficial. I ended up completing two University degrees, teaching all my life, married 4o years and becoming an accomplished musician. I give all thanks to meditation and prayer.
You just described someone that is unable to meditate and then tacked on meditation. “Craving stimulation” is the state of mind that meditation gets you away from. And meditation isn’t an activity you “do” for like ten minutes a day, If you are able to reach the state of meditation, it’s a state you’re in from the moment you wake up onward haha
Thank you for this comment. My 10-year-old has ADHD but not the “hyper” type - just the daydreamer. It’s a great quality but it has also made it hard for him in school. I like hearing stories like yours where things all worked out. ❤️❤️
@@bitofwizdomb7266 what is it you experience in your mental powers that negates the power of prayer or elevates you through meditation as you must have a reason or knowledge, of why one doesn't get your attention?
i have ADD, i noticed while she's explaining ADD, i was listening and paying attention then i started to think about how the flashlight is a good way to represent it then i realized i lost her for a few minutes because i was thinking about it then i started thinking about how i lost her and lost her again. had to watch the video a few times.
My life changed a month ago when I read the book adhd 2.0 and then their earlier book driven to distraction by Halloween & Ratey. I cried often through the book as I listened to the authors describe with such detail many experiences and emotions I had felt since I could remember going back to early childhood.It took 44 years to finally figure out and find the diagnosis of ADHD. It’s been a rollercoaster journey to get here. Will share some aspects that might help others. I hit MDD ( major depression) about 4 years ago. As that lifted over the last few years through medicine, therapy and self care I got to a place where I was able to be more in touch with myself. With depression lifting it felt at times that maybe I was hypomanic which I still consider a possibility. My psychiatrist had mentioned over a year ago the idea that my symptoms may be consistent with ADD. I didn’t give it much thought until I stumbled on the above mentioned books. It’s just one diagnosis and doesn’t change everything. But it certainly helps encounter challenges that I was feeling stuck navigating and now with new tools has opened up new doors. Remember diagnosis limit and put us in boxes but if we are nuanced in figuring out who we are then we can use these diagnosis to our advantage. And especially ADD where we do have extra powers in this world. But also seem to have an extra challenge of figuring out how to use them. And that challenge never goes away. We can hopefully identify it and then use it more constructively. And once we do that …oh boy do we have a gift and maybe even a super power! We live in special times! Remember every challenge, obstacle and difficulty is a question. Did deep. Find out who you are and why you are here. Be curious. And the world will start to become your friend. Fears will dissipate. Oh this is not an easy journey. This will test you every part of you. You will doubt yourself . And as you reveal your new self to others they will often not be pleased with your new discoveries. And that’s where the real fun ( and pain ) begin. You then may have to learn to start to trust, believe and have faith in yourself. And learn how to integrate your new self and way of thinking into the old world that you left behind. Not easy. But that becomes the new challenge and question. Ok let’s stop. If this helps anyone I can continue writing. Sending peace, love and blessings to all! ❤️
Hello Sim, well written and described as to how some of us come to figure these things out ! We must be brothers because I feel exactly like YOU do with this as you say Superpower .
I got diagnosed and prescribed recently at 25. I never had definite add/adhd as a kid, but once I got into high school and then my young adult life I started having issues. Constantly underachieving and struggling to balance things. The flashlight analogy makes sense to me, I am always hyper focused on a different hobby or thing every month or two. Anything super important gets put on the back burner until it’s too late and I do it out of being fueled by anxiety. However when I take adderall I feel that same energy of being fueled to do things, without it being anxiety driven. It’s great. I was previously proud of how well I could get things done when I was extremely anxious about it, but now I can perform to the same level without the fear in my brain haha.
For my ADD/ADHD kindred! The brain's attention system (AS) 00:45 The first AS is like a flashlight that *scans* narrow areas 03:20 The second AS is like a floodlight that *scans* wide areas 04:37 Both lights can be directed externally and internally 04:57 The third AS is called Executive Control and *selects* goals like an exec in a company 07:47 Is your life negatively impacted by the way your attention functions? You just might have ADD/ADHD. 08:14 Meta-awareness is deliberately focussing your attention toward the contents of conscious thought. If you have that + ADD, you might not get fired from your job, because you're functional enough thanks to Meta-awareness. 09:30 Joe asks, if behavioral focus training is better than medicating. Amishi said she let her patients take the medication while doing behavioral training. They later said, that before the training the Ritalin alone helped them to successfully focus on useless bullshit (only flashlight). After the training they developed Meta-awareness, which allowed them to *focus their focus* on important tasks (floodlight + flashlight).
Ugh. I love this. Like many here, I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early 30s and have been trying to "define" it since. I think this might be the most relatable metaphor to help the neurotypicals in my life understand how it works. What isn't talked about enough - and beyond important - is the effect that brain chemistry has in attention regulation. ADHD is, in many ways, a function of a significant dopamine deficiency. It's the search for dopamine that causes the impulsivity, emotional disregulation, predisposition to addiction, procrastination anxiety, etc. That's one of the reasons I liked this analogy, because the "executive" in the room - as she calls it - is supposed to keep the attention primarily focused on the "goals" of the given situation. Well, when the need for dopamine is extremely high, that executive is motivated to shift goals rapidly to meet the chemical need for dopamine. In a normal state, it means the urge to buy things, use drugs, put off work/chores until later, etc. are prioritized as urgent goals because they are dopamine releasing activities. I don't WANT to buy that thing, or have that drink, but my brain knows that it will give me dopamine and it makes the urges feel like a survival-oriented activity. Another dopamine releasing activity is "discovery" (finding something new that interests/excites us). This is why so many people with ADHD have a long trail of hobbies or failed pursuits. It also explains our hyperfixated state; we discover a thing that provides dopamine and we chase it like our life depends on it. This all gets more complicated and nuanced when you layer in anxiety, but this comment is long enough (and my trains of thought are departing).
I’ve never heard of that discovery addiction you described. Seems the best thing to do to address that would be to go deeper and deeper into one thing and get completely inside of it because that’s where the fun really starts. We almost require some sort of external apprenticeship to structure our progression because without it we (me anyway) are way too eager to congratulate ourself and yeah, move on to other unrelated things.
This is why strenuous exercise is great for ADD/ADHD. I work out alone because it is an intense training & when I am in training mode, I cannot tolerate ‘social’ interruptions. I had to stop going to the gym because of the people wanting to socialise while I was trying to exercise/train. I NEED the intense training for my dopamine fix. The best part is hitting the runner’s high during my runs. That feels like heaven, just like when I play my heart out on my piano. Yeah, it sounds crazy but some of us are just highly sensitive & intense people. Haha
@@ozymandiaspbs Do you listen to music while lifting? Do you watch videos/tv while doing cardio. I agree with the many benefits of exercising, but my mind will still wonder while working out. Especially while lifting.
@@ChristianFlores-dj9gj - Yes, I listen to music, usually techno/trance or dance music. I love disco music, so I often listen to MJ’s “Off The Wall” album since it is mostly disco songs. I also do some yoga & meditation before (for focus) AND after (to calm down). When I switch between exercise sets (Chest -> Legs) I will dance a bit because I cannot help myself. Haha 🕺🎶
The funny thing about my ADHD is the fact that during this video I literally put my “flashlight of attention” that she described away from the actual video and her talking, to swooping out and looking at basketball news for minutes as the video continued to play. I was literally blocking out what she was saying. Living with ADHD is crazy and people mistake it as just laziness
Undiagnosed until 27, I struggled my whole life. Wondering why it was so hard for me to do things others seemed to be absolutely fine doing. I was volatile and being a 5'11 heavy set male that was not a great thing to be. Since starting meds, everything is easier. Life doesn't have to be so difficult. If you can get on without medication then that's great. Good for you. I didn't need to be on them until I had major responsibility.
I find that I actually perform tasks better if I’m “distracting” my mind by listening to podcasts. It keeps me focused on the task without getting distracted or seeking a different stimulus. Obviously it doesn’t work for everything, but it’s great for chores like cleaning or washing dishes.
I can’t have any distractions. I sold almost all of my possessions and decluttered my entire room so I have less shit that takes up my peripheral vision. My room is literally a bed, a desk, a chair, a computer & a closet with my clothes in it. Other than that, it’s pretty much empty & blank, with the purpose of eliminating as many distracting things from my sight as possible so my brain doesn’t go haywire. I do my best work when my room is completely quiet. Music or podcasts distract me too much. Meditation helps clear the mind too.
This is exactly what I do! I have to watch films or listen to podcasts while working. I even watched films while revising for school and uni exams. I always explain to people that doing this switches off the part of my brain that gets bored and looks for something to do while the other part of my brain focuses on work.
Same! I have to listen to podcast or music to stay on track the best I can.. however, I can't have clutter distractions around me.. I also need a certain vibe... if the vibe is off, production will not happen
don’t really know how to explain this without like writing an essay about my experiences with shrooms, but my psychedelic experiences have seriously helped me better understand my add and how to kind of regulate the more difficult aspects of it, being the lack of motivation i feel, my depressive episodes that come from such, my weird fixations, my periods of being unable to sleep on a regulated schedule etc. never understood the way my brain worked better than when i got got off my meds and took time to trip and develop a serious sober meditation and exercise habit.
This adds an extra level of awareness as to what’s happening in my brain which is great. I’ve found personally the only way to control my adhd is to literally micro-manage myself minute by minute, creating a schedule where every moment has a set task that I’m supposed to be doing. I also make time to do stuff I like, so that there’s balance. Add/adhd is not easy, I too have been called lazy endlessly. People without it don’t understand
As somebody who has struggled with ADD my whole life, I feel extremely lucky to have found a lucrative job skill that can keep my brain from wandering. Coding for 8 hours feels like 8 minutes to me. Hyperfocusing is now a perk rather than a drawback. For anyone who has ADD, try to find an employable skill that you actually find interesting. I know it's much easier said than done, but once you find it many of your problems will become manageable or disappear altogether. That's why it's good to try a lot of different things.
Reading the comments and listening at the same time only to realize I had an ADHD moment while learning about it. I'm sure I'm not the only one here lol
Did you actually just self diagnose yourself with a lifelong disability, over comments and a Joe Rogan podcast? Jesus Christ. Go speak to an actual psychologist.
@@hassaanawan367 like for real, people will say they have adhd but somehow, they will have focus to be 5 hours on tiktok or play video games all day. and then when they need to work, now they are not LAZY they have ADHD.
@@akai3717 I mean I get it but people with adhd can often hyperfixate on specific interests they have. And adhd isn’t about not being able to focus, the not being able focus is more so the product of the reward system in the brain. The ADHD brain goes for immediate quick gratification that can be found in tiktok and video games, but completing tasks and being incentivized to work may be harder.
You've got to start parenting children from day 1. You can't wait until they're 7 or 8 to start teaching and expect them to be able to keep up with kids who have had 2 responsible parents from birth.
ADHD has genuinely made my whole life an uphill battle. I refuse to take any medications for it, because they make me feel awful and bland, like a zombie.
I feel you bro. When I got diagnosed I was put on all these different medication that affected my mood, apetite, emotions, they made me feel so damn blunt and boring and not myself. In the last year and a half I’ve stopped all meds and started meditating daily which IS now my ‘medication’ I think it would really help. As well as this I had an experience with lsd which allowed me to accept that adhd is a part of who I am and I don’t need meds I need to be my authentic self. Adhd is not a burden brother it’s a gift we are lucky and blessed because I can’t imagine how boring life would be without it. I hope this helped you in some way ❤️
Maybe you're on the wrong ones? I actually find both Ritalin and Adderal to be beneficial in their own situations. Adderal is normally my daily morning dose for dopamine and to help me do things to continue dopamine release through completion of tasks. The Ritalin is good if im sitting down and trying to grind out a project I wanna do, or even sometimes if I have to grind out a shitty part of a game (resource collecting, for example) and makes it the only focus, and feel rewarding to do. I'm on all kinds of shit too, although I got diagnosed with Tourettes at the same time I did ADHD/ADD.. I don't think the doctors know/care enough to find out which one it is to be honest. So in my opinion, you gotta self medicate and self diagnose cuz the medical system is a fucking racket. If I took everything they gave me on the schedule they prescribed I would be in a lot worse situation than I am now, I think. Just the same but on more daily dosages of drugs. Gotta be the master of your own domain so-to-speak and make sure that you're the one taking the drugs - and that the drugs don't start "taking you". Best of luck man, im pullin for ya! We're all in this together... Keep your stick on the ice. :D
Take Adderal it's great. Gives you energy. When I first took it I was on 1-10mg per day but over the course of 2- years I am now taking one 20mg and one 30mg. The only downside is you must take them before say 1pm if you want to sleep that night. But each person is different and you'll quickly learn how your body reacts. But they've been a lifesaver for me. Unfortunately, I didn't start taking them until I was in my 40s
i was diagnosed with adhd at a young age and shes really onto something with the flashlight analogy basicly what helps me is keeping my goals in order of importance and always being mindful of what gola im focused on first until said goal is done and immediately go too the next and if i focus hard enough i can get into a flow state and i just start to float through my daily tasks with precision its hard and takes practice but it works as long you practice mindfulness...
I have ADD and it's the craziest thing, I have a long time friend whom I've discussed this with, he's like my polar opposite when it comes to thinking and logic. It's like if im not purposefully focusing on what is required I can still do it, but not particularly well...but if I'm compulsively interested in something, man you can't stop me, at least until I lose that interest. It's hard to find motivation(which isn't just an ADD thing). And something I recently learned was that when my buddy looks at something, say when we're playing video games, his visual processing can do multiple things at once using focused and peripheral vision, while maintaining an "internal map" of where we're at and what's going on. I can never learn game maps, when I look somewhere I don't see anything but what I'm focused on trying to see. Our brains are literally wired differently and until discussing it he just got frustrated cuz he didn't understand, and I got frustrated that I couldn't do what he thought I should be able to. Another thing is it is almost impossible to keep my brain on task, it's almost like I just kinda float through life in this mental fog trying to get somewhere, but I'm too focused on not tripping over tree roots to see the left turn I'm missing
lol sorry but I had to comment. fellow add-er here and I can’t find my way around a video game map to save my life. it’s months and months before I eventually learn the map ☺️
Shoutout to my fellow ADD brothers and sisters out there. I feel like in the public view the ADHD people are the guitar players and we’re the bass players.
ADD is hell because the combination of fatigue and procrastination just comes off as super lazy to other people. Plus without medication, anxiety and depression increases which can lead to drug abuse and other self-destructive behaviors that go unnoticed because our reclusive nature. Enter the negative feedback loop of dread and watch molehills become mountains.
@@NathanHoff96 I actually like my add. Sure I'm a nightmare when I drive and talk but I actually like just zoning out. And sometimes i just say the funniest things cus I just don't know what's happening. The simple life. Edit: I've also never been on meds. You can learn to live with it. Might take awhile
Recently diagnosed with Asperger's and ADHD as a senior citizen; it explained my whole life. This woman is right about attention. If I'm really interested in something, I'm laser focused and I'm ON it. If not, I realllly struggle getting this task done. I also often say that this or that "wasn't in the front of my brain"...I often have thoughts or tasks that get pushed to the back of the line, so to speak. Unless I'm actively thinking of it as a priority, thoughts seem to hide somewhere. It's VERY annoying to others, and especially to me that my brain works this way. It's a main reason I keep a List of Today's Priorities going at all times.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
Those 3 functions are literally dedicated sections of your brain and having ADHD means 1-3 of those sections have grown prematurely and as a result are weaker than someone normal.
Flashlight, floodlight, or nightlight while those of us with ADD or ADHD have a strobe light. Our brains are merely overclocked and we don't experience things at the same speed as the normies. Hence the need for overstimulation before we reach task saturation. Which is why you're probably watching this video at 1.75x speed whilst scrolling through the comments. Our problem is not our attention(focus) but our retention of data packets which needs to improve.
@@ArchimedesDaVinci no, your exact problem is focus. If you actually paid attention youre not using your management of your "flashlight" and focus so u dont retain the information u need. Ur stuck kn the broad "floodlight" and see things happening but nothing specific. Flood light allows u to be aware that a person is walking by, the flashlight is narrowing of the mind to focus on a specific detail, which is directed by the management. U might know the person passed u by, but wouldn't have paid enough attention to say what brand of shoes they were wearing. Balnce is key
I was diagnosed with add around 7-8 years old. Parents said I’d grow out of it. Did nothing for it. Suffered depression, drug use, failed relationships, self sabotaging etc. diagnosed again at 36 got help and my life changed. I’m happy for this first time in my life.
I was diagnosed with ADD at 12. I’m 39 now unmedicated. That mindfulness training would 1000% help me! I hyper focus on the wrong tasks and things like laundry get left for WEEKS. Yoga also refocuses me too, likely in the same way.
My question is how you managed to actually keep up with the yoga cause I can’t do that 😂 like I’ll do something for 2 days then that’s it, cannot form habits to save my life 😅
I’ve had severe ADHD since I was young. My sister is someone to says ADHD isn’t real and it’s extremely insulting knowing all of the trouble it’s giving me in life. It’s more than just not being able to focus, it fucks with your interpersonal relationships and the way you operate in the world in general. I want so much for myself but it can be crippling. Most people don’t realize that ADHD over stimulates your mind to the point of exhaustion and Most people with ADHD struggle to get things done or do anything they want to do because their mind is constantly coming up with other things to do in the meantime. It’s just way more complex than we recognize it to be as a society
@@ryderlandry9876 it is. Any doctor can diagnose you based on their flawed expertise and say you have add, adhd etc. And start making you pop pills like candy.. These supposed disorders cannot be proven its not like giving you a covid test.
I have always suffered from attention deficit disorder, hardest part was when I saw my son go through it in school. He was born with a congenital heart defects even though I did try medication after realizing it was deadly to him. I took him off. I went through all of the processes the school offered with the IEP program. I was very involved, especially after walking in his classroom 2nd grade, and, seeing him placed at the back of the class, behind a bookshelf, facing the wall. How devastated I was to see my son was treated that way, I struggled throughout elementary junior high and high school with him. through those years I found some very AMAZING teachers. Rare though. They were the difference in his life for sure! Our educational system, but not enough effort to our children who suffer from ADHD. All they wanted to do is throw medication at them. Even when I did try the medication I still got complaints from teachers either. He was hyper and talked too much and when I would try to counteract that they would give him medication that would make him fall asleep during class, so the teachers would then complain about that. It was so disturbing to see his whole personality diminish, and then him sleep for hours after school, barely able to function, and when I study, I realize the medication I was giving him could kill him. I couldn’t believe how ignorant I was I took them to institutions anything that I could do as a mother to help him in school. All the negative treatment from most teachers mad him hate school. It was abuse to him embarrassed almost bullied. They conversation I had omg. I switched school tried private school they would not let us in. I couldn’t even pay them to take a child with ADHD HE WAS SAMRT his grades didn’t reflect it obviously but all the negativity that came from his childhood ruined his outlook on education in a school setting. and It broke my heart. I am so glad that people are still studying this and I hope it helps to children because I do feel like the way they’re treated in school ruins, there though on education. I am myself I’m back on attention deficit medication because I am hyper focused on the fact that my son died in a car accident and I can’t focus on anything else except for the fact so I take it so that I can work and move along in life. It’s some kind of medicated machine, which is awful but that’s a whole other topic. Still on the medication I want to focus on the death and that process not my job. So even medication are not helping me only to get up and go. Thank you for your research.
Just 5 mins in and she sounds like a great teacher. SImple and appropriate analogies to help the understanding with a pace that gives you ample time to internalize the content.
I was diagnosed with adult adhd at 20, my psychiatrist explained to to me as a sort of executive function disorder. For me I have always had motivational issues and difficulties in managing my time, estimating time to complete tasks and prioritizing tasks. I had never been great in school until recently, getting very average grades. But this year was different. I’ve completely crushed it, perfect grades and I’ve turned into a fucking machine. The difference being I’ve finally found a reason to work. If you have adhd a d find yourself going aimlessly through life, take time to really find a purpose or a goal, and use that to fuel your motivation. This is just something that really worked for me, so take it with a grain of salt I guess. I’m still totally dysfunctional in a lot of ways, but something that I think can help is to find a passion and really focus on that. That is where you will excel. Also talk to a psychiatrist and take your meds.
She’s spot on. Medication calmed down the floodlights, focused the spotlight and improved the communication aspect for me. I’m way more relaxed and aware now. Life changing and a big part of a broader treatment plan.
As an adult with diagnosed ADD, this is absolutely without a doubt the most accurate and relatable conveyance of what it’s like to have ADD that I have ever heard. Period.
I agree, was diagnosed as a child and now as an adult a year ago. My pyshologist actually kinda refused to use the term ADD or ADHD, he refer to me as having low executive function, but above average intelligence.
@@dukeduke2790 maybe, maybe not. But that’s irrelevant because every moment in life can’t be governed by starving or not. Once we “survived” your immediate challenge we’d be right back in the same place.
I have had ADD my whole life, 47 years old. Had to learn how to live with it on my own. For example, to get something out of this, I took rigorous notes, paused and/or rewinded at several points to get what I missed while I was writing.
@Paul Smith that sucks man, I know what you're talking about though. When I was exercising regularly, eating no sugar, and drinking a lot of water every day it seemed like I was 50% better. I wish i had the answers though man.
I like how she calls thinking about external things "subsampling reality" I've never thought of it directly before but its exactly what we do!! But for me I also can use my imagination to predict the outcomes, based on my understanding of whatever it is. I've learned a lot about my mind in the last few years and it's pretty interesting to me how many people have never felt the need to actually do that. I feel like if everybody was less interested in occupying themselves for "the moment" and would take time to realize how advanced we are instead of listening to what other people say and just taking it as "reality" we would have a lot better of a society... but instead people are overwhelmed constantly by the things the world has pre planned for us!! Nobody asks questions anymore!!Also, not everyone gets a chance to understand the limits of their mind anymore I think it's so wrong. It's almost like our government wants us to be dull and doubtful........ everyone is unique and you might have the answer to something that nobody else has. Don't let the big man steal your idea. Have you noticed how many senseless people have money? This world isn't that complicated. Our species is just stressed out because modern society is unlike anything our ancestors had to deal with. It's so dull and there's supposedly an answer to everything on the internet, the worst part is that people choose to believe the news instead of researching the endless platform of information. I don't like to label people, but I do think questioning reality is a sign of intelligence. The human species is suffering horribly because our leaders are manipulative asf!!
Meh, some tired ramblings that came to mind when reading your comment. The subsampling part of what she is describing is just more how we work in general ( which i believe you wrote), our brains work in a way where it will actively discard certain things as to not overwhelm our senses.. it's more or less a subconscious/passive filter... the two "modes" she describes is a "more or less" situation as no matter what we do these filters are going to be there always just with switching focus and scope (being at that expanded focus/scope is not optimal though.. which is why we get VERY tired after long periods of this... our brains are glucose hogs after all and are simply not made to run at this level indefinitely). It's why we can forget things or just outright miss certain things that are right in front of us. It's also how we can actively tune out sounds, colours etc, or how our brains get used to certain things (as at some point it become less 'important' and less novel to the mental process... there is no need to pay attention if it's commonplace). In the opposite we can notice things we aren't really processing consciously or purposefully (this might even be down to how our brains work, as we in fact have two "brain processes" working in tandem, one being our consciousness and another being what is beneath it aka 'the unconscious/subconscious'... go read the multiple papers on this, it's really interesting and a little bit worrying). Now imagine living without these filters, where every little blemish, miniscule sound... the saccades of peoples eyes, skin movement, rustling of leaves,bugs and so forth.. it would flat out drive us insane and in most cases would lead us to a swift death just based on 'fuel expenses'. ;D The rest of your comment, about senseless people and money (i am kind of trying to expand on what you said)... the majority of people who gain massive fortunes simply have lessened ability for empathy in most cases (not saying they have none, even if those cases exist... just that 'lessened' is more common... and is apparently a natural advantage in most cases in terms of survival). This lessened empathy is more often than not connected to "senselessness" that you mentioned as a lot of it comes down to empathy.. I.e you are going to be less bothered being in the way of someone else, or in some more extreme cases not going to be bothered by completely f***ing over someone else so you can advance. It's why high functioning psychopaths are extremely successful in terms of business, flirting etc... as they simply do not care what the other person feels as they are more or less incapable of internalizing it without some form of rationalization (normal people emulate and internalize, i.e how would he/she feel, how would I feel etc). It's also why certain cultures with tightly denser populations tend to have less empathic people as everyone is out to survive by all costs.. i.e empathy is a "weakness" and does not promote survival. We are in fact being manipulated by everyone and everything, not all of it is nefarious... but a lot of it is. Saying our ancestors never had to deal with this is.. just wrong. They had to deal with the exact same things we are but the difference is the scale of it (they were told when and where and how to think, just like us)... We have gone from micro (small sample size of people) to the macro (global, massive size). We have become less nomadic in general and with the rise of media (tv, internet socialmedia, cellphones etc) everything is basically a click away, and we in general do not have the mental faculties to compartmentalize or even fairly judge what we are ingesting from these sources (regardless of intelligence) as it's not a natural state for us to be in. One way of coping with this is attaching yourself to an idea or a concept.... it's how idols, religions, cults etc are formed and are 'successful' (and why things like branding work at all).. this stretches as far as attaching yourself to something like "science" and "truth".... your brain will do anything to make sense of things regardless of what is true or not. As for your comment about intelligence and questioning reality.... every single one of us questions reality in some form. "Reality" is a construct or rationalization we have created, and it differs from each and everyone one of us (and none of us get it right, as we physically are unable to... but we try). Everyone is out to protect the "self" in some way shape or form, some do this by praying to a deity... some do this by questioning said deity and the people who join the religion (some do this by creating said deity for self gain.... you get the point). It's also why you have certain people with the mindset of "everyone's and idiot but me" as that is the only way they can make sense of the world. In all cases the important thing is to survive, that is what "intelligence" is for. i.e intelligence is not a single thing... someone is not less intelligent for believing in a flying spaghetti monster if it's actually successful in terms of survival... regardless of how ridiculous and improbable it is (in this case it just means they are wrong about thinking such a thing can exist). This expands to everything, be it finance, romance, games etc.... you can be highly successful in one or several areas as this is intelligence in some form. What people get wrong almost all the time is that our brains (and in connection, "we") are some form of "truth engines"... we aren't, as we simply are "survival engines". What most people argue for intelligence is the ability to be RIGHT about something, while people who are WRONG are less intelligent.... this is just not the case. We have far less intelligent people who are able to discern "reality" far better than a lot of us.. this might even be down to their lack of intelligence as they are discarding a lot of useless cultural things or minute details that just doesn't matter (meanwhile we have far more intelligent people who can't tell the difference from a square and a circle as well, much less tying their shoelaces, but are able to calculate the size of the milky way... i know it's a silly and extreme example, but it's not far off from the 'truth' ). Point is: while nice... intelligence is highly overrated and simply misunderstood.
That’s facts I do the same thing and I feel like if everyone refocused they would understand how powerful we really are Clark Kent and we don’t realize we are Superman . We could be far as fuck right now . But instead we are controlled and trapped because there are entity’s that know how much control they would lose if we did .
I’m 17 and i have so many things that I do i feel isn’t normal. I was diagnosed with ADD in 6th grade, after i had a concussion in a car wreck. Since then, I’ve been doing really strange things that frustrate me so much. Things like feeling overwhelming chronic guilt and shame for no reason at all. Or obsessing over something like a movie, show, or hobby for a couple of days and dropping it. Right now i’m stuck on Aladdin. I’ve watched it 5 times today, so it’s probably been around 15 times in the past few days. It’s all I can think about, and it’s calming. I also have a STRICT morning routine that I HAVE to finish or i can’t do anything. If anything interrupts it, it ruins my day or next couple days. I struggle very much in school. Sometimes I wonder if I have some learning problem, or it’s just me that is lazy and choosing not to learn. I’ll read, and read, and won’t remember what I did for the past 5 hours. I’ll also get obsessed with a celebrity, youtuber, or whoever and copy everything they do. I don’t know if its severe adhd, but i’m not in the place to be able to afford meds or therapy or even get checked for that matter. I’m so lost and I am going crazy in my head, and the fact that college is coming up and I need to figure out how i’m gonna make money is driving me crazy. 😞
YES - for me, as a 37 year old ADHD sufferer, I have found that my dexedrine is terrific for helping with my ability to focus / hyper-focus...but it wasn't until I began cultivating a daily mindfulness meditation practice (15-20 minutes a day) that I developed the ability to have / understand "meta-awareness." Now, I can choose where I spend / exert my focus once my meds kick in. Next goal - taper off my meds and hopefully not need my amphetamines anymore. It only takes 90 days to shrink the amygdala and implement a mindfulness practice. Life-changing type shit!
It's highly likely you aren't going to be able to go off the medication though. Those chemical imbalances in the brain won't go away just with meditation. I've found that TM has definitely helped with the focusing issue and dialing down the input overload.
Im 38 diagnosed with ADHD way back in 1994. It was a new thing back then. Ive done Ritalin, dexadrin and adderol. I went to rehab for abusing my speed pills back in 2002. They took away my stimulant drugs. The non stimulant drugs made me dizzy for some reason. Now i just self medicate with whiskey and pscho active drugs. Its kinda shitty but i guess im fine.??
I kinda think its all bullshit now just so big pharma and our great marxist democrat leaders can make big money and some of the mass population retarded. Lol
There's a big difference between ADD and ADHD. I have the former-before they had a name for this-and got beat in school and at home many times. My report cards said I was always looking out the window, and not paying attention enough. One thing about ADD that is worse than ADHD is that the hyperactivity is all inside instead.
I was diagnosed as such myself at 7 years old. I don’t believe that I’m maladaptive; I believe that sitting in classroom, being made to pay attention to a subjects I had zero interest in; wasn’t necessarily a bad distraction. I would focus on the nature outside of the window and want to be outside. Because that is more natural for a child. I was going against the system at an early age. I was labeled with so many negative adjectives and was put on ritilan by my unassuming mother- suggested by school teachers and administrators. You can’t just pigeonhole a whole group of kids and expect them to turn out the exact same way. I realized much later in life, that I learn far better on my own, being able to grasp information and retain it, without authoritative force. I notice this is the same way for my 9-year- old son who’s been labeled as having Asperger’s. He’s extremely intelligent and bored with curriculum he, I believe, finds boring and repetitive. I homeschool him now- he learns better at his own pace. But unlike what my mom did to me, I will not put my highly sensitive and intuitive child on a pill. This is dangerous and unnatural. Tl;dr- we neuro diverse people should be focused more on our gifts than our deficits. Just my thoughts.
I absolutely hate that they changed it so that add doesn’t technically exist anymore . Because now people think add is the same as adhd . I could sit perfectly still in school. So it was just me being lazy
I was diagnosed in childhood, but I was taken off of meds when my family could no longer afford them. After that, my grades plummeted and my symptoms re-appeared worse than before. I didn’t get back on them until I was out of college. After I got back on them, it was like a nearsighted person putting on glasses for the first time. I thought I was going to cry. I could finally…function. After all those years. Sometimes I wonder that if I could have stayed on the treatment I needed, when I needed it, things might have been different. What I was fortunate to have was parents who took ADHD seriously, who trusted medical facts, who didn’t give up on me, who held me accountable for things I could control, and helped me make peace with the things I couldn’t control. Not every kid has that. When those support systems are not present (or they are present but dysfunctional) then the outcome is a lot more uncertain. I could have had parents who dismissed science, or fanatical Catholics/Christians, or essential oils people, or a whole litany of people who think they know better than trained professionals. I probably would never have made it out of my hometown. (In a sick way, sometimes I think that’s exactly what those kinds of people want…they are afraid their children will become too successful, because it will make them look bad by comparison. But I digress.) It shouldn’t be remarkable that they believed basic medical facts that were presented to them in black and white, but…it’s more than some people can say. Two plus two is four. The sky is blue. ADHD is real, it exists, and it’s in the DSM. The fact that grown adults need basic facts about health and medicine explained to them is highly concerning.
I haven’t been diagnosed, but I could relate to a lot of what the doctor said. I had poor self esteem because I felt like I couldn’t get anything done, and that I was lucky to be working in the family business and couldn’t get fired. I knew what needed to get done but didn’t have the tools to get there. The clouds finally cleared more when I started freediving and journaling. It was being mindful of where my mind was at and what I wanted to get done that really helped. I review how I spend my time, and what I accomplish each day. A running check list is also a great tool for me, although sometimes overwhelming if I start forgetting to check it and it piles up. I think everyone should learn how to handle themselves, and I really really hope more people start practicing mindfulness. Having applied it to myself and seeing the positive impact, I’m convinced that it would be a wonderful tool that improves individual lives which will eventually translate to improved communities and/or societies.
As a person who likely has ADD, I was listening, and very interested, then found the flashlight analogy spot on, then remembered I was supposed to order flashlights, then I opened up a second window to see if Costco had the 3 pack of Duracell flashlights back in stock....
Then you saw a TV for sale for only $499 and then contemplated buying it when you remembered your meats were in the freezer and had to be thawed out, but damn it, you don't want to go all the way to the kitchen now. You'll do it later.... Which is why you're eating frozen pizza now
@@MarketWizard546 Then you go to take a bite. Turns out the pizza is literally frozen because you forgot to put it in the oven which has been preheated for the last hour and is starting to smoke.
I think its funny as a person with ADHD im listening to her talk about this while im doing schoolwork, doing paperwork for my business, checking the trading post in the game I play, stopping to comment here. The goal driven thing is so true.. My focus shifts everywhere dependent on what I'm thinking about at that exact moment. Welp, back to doing 5 other things.
@@lukes5631 orrr myabe i have a serious form of ADD and stopped taking medication 8 years ago, and theres ways of doing it that have been researched and studied to help people like me more efficiently than just a "dopamine fast". its the need to do something else, not that something is just boring
@@dotquack1 ADHD isn't a real thing. It is a symptom of other underlying issues. You can't fix ADHD because the "ADHD" is the displayed behavior. It is not the root cause... but sure, the medical field loves to diagnose you as "attention deficit" and supply you with pharmaceuticals. That's a band aid solution. You seem to also be identifying as your diagnosis. This, too, strengthens the hold on you.
I really think this is the best explanation of how to explain ADD to both patients and clinicians to ensure everyone understands and therefor has a clearer perspective on how to help someone/theirselves.
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I have twins with one has ADD other ADHD. I have to watch this video more than twice because there's so much information, my brain can't process, and my attention checks in and out...her voice is so soothing 😌
if you don't want your kids to have ADHD when their adults don't suppress their hyper energy by force or drugs, channel it into something healthy like sports or karate
@@DangerZone200 they hate sports, but we do hiking and they have special jumping shoes that they wear when we walk our dog at the park. Trust me I make them move and they love it. I also don't feed them processed foods.
Joe, your conversations with these amazing guest are so well put together. The content is helping so many people in sense of being able to think freely. Thank you for your podcast. I didn't catch her name but this psychologist was interesting to listen to.
For my entire school life up until grade 10, I would be called in for a parent teacher meeting only for my teacher to complain about how hard it was teaching me and how i was never willing to learn. Many of them suggested moving me to a special school. My mom would tell me to do something for her multiple times before i even really picked up that she needed me to do something. I would simply acknowledge her without really knowing i did then denying she said anything. Eventually my middle schools special ed program gave me a test to determine if i had a learning problem in which i tested above average. We finally made the trip to a specialist which gave me the confirmed diagnosis, they ended up putting me on several test medications such as Concerta, Ritalin and the more popular drug Adderall. I would take the medication once daily as recommended and at first it really did work. I no longer goofed off as hard during class, i started doing my homework and overall took school more seriously. However, the medication started toying with my mental state quite heavily. I felt severe mood swings and a total switch of what my personality used to be. They led me to stop the medication overall. At the time of stopping my few good habits that i had in my life really picked up such as Reading, Playing the piano, and Working out. This overall gave a me a natural way to keep my brain focused onto one thing which helped tame my symptoms by quite a lot. Going into grade 11 I was off medication, had plenty of great habits that helped with my focus and gave me a great sense of clarity. I finished up Grade 11 with mostly straight Bs which were the highest marks id seen all my life. In grade 12 i received an Honour roll certificate and had all As. This was my story, thanks for reading(:
I got diagnosed when I was in grade school and was allotted extra time for assignments and tests but it never fixed the root of the problem. I continued to struggle academically through middle school then during high school I got prescribed concerta and I found the drive to get better grades. Now I’m in an associates degrees medical program but I continue to struggle prioritizing my time and staying on task.
My oldest son has ADHD but I recognized early he had a strong entrepreneurial spirit. I pulled him in 7th grade to partially homeschool. I never allowed him to be medicated. He’s now 16 and has a growing, built from the ground up, business which I suspect 6-12 months from now will be making him an actual living wage (he already replaced his full time minimum wage job and quit a few months ago to focus on growing his business). He’s not easy to raise and direct in terms of classes and chores and staying organized. But he’s hyper focused on his business and seems to intuitively know how to grow it, etc. He’s dual enrolled in college classes but I don’t see him going on to get his bachelors. Not unless he ever decides he has a damn good reason to. He really doesn’t like school.
My brother and I were similar and did similarly. Both very successful in our field now in our twenties. We also did dual enrollment and are from Florida 😄
I have been diagnosed w both,and I just finished writing,self-publishing and getting to market my 1st book,and I did it in only 6 months time.The only downside to having such mindsets is getting frustrated bc everything feels like it is taking too long to happen,as well molehills always appear as mountains.What's beautiful is looking back on everything,you see the journey,the path that was created and you react with peace and a genuine sense of accomplishment.After writing over 500 songs in different styles and letting notebooks worth of other written material lay around for years,I have just ONE album and just ONE book completed.I'm living the ADD/ADHD dream,lol.
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I was not diagnosed until I was 35. getting the help I needed and the meds not only saved my job but also my life. It is impossible to explain; the best way I can is my head at times feels like a strainer/sieve, and my thoughts are marbles; the sieve is swirling around, so the marbles are all bouncing around, now you see a marble you like, and you want to grab, but you only have chopsticks so it's hard so you keep losing it among all the other marbles, but then you finally see it, and you try to grab it but every time you get close to catching one it somehow leaks through the hole, and you never see it again so you are confused and then move on to try and grab another.
I was diagnosed as a child with ADHD and prescribed Ritalin, ADD is a curse, you never remember someone’s name immediately after they tell you, traditional learning is very difficult, your mind always wanders somewhere else, especially when reading. What angers me is the trendy self diagnosis by narcissists to explain their behavior, nobody calls themself a narcissist but ADD is acceptable, they have none of these issues they just aren’t interested in anyone but themselves and dismiss everyone. I’d rather have my curse then theirs, at least I can feel empathy, if these people truly knew what ADD feels like they would never brag about it, I have learned to live normally, they will always be narcissists, narcissism seems to be the fastest growing mental problem in the country, and social media has put it on steroids
I was diagnosed with ADD when I was younger and later developed MDD. I used to get mad at people who self diagnose or make jokes about how they are depressed when really they are just upset sometimes. Idk if they are full on narcissist but it is ridiculous that people do that but it’s best just to ignore it and focus on how to make your life best and deal with your own personal disorder.
I’m glad we can talk about this as a society. The country my family is from is so poor and far down maslow’s hierarchy of needs that mental health issues like narcissism are never even discussed.
I was diagnosed with adhd as a kid and i remember not wanting to take my medication or just denying that it affected me in any way but as a 21 year old adult I now realize how bad it is. It seems like I can only hold momentum for so long before the fire dies and I have to take a break to recharge which could be like a week doing nothing after spending 1-2 months of hard grinding. I have trouble sleeping most the time and my mind thinks of things I don’t want to think about because they stress me out and I can’t stop it. I’m constantly restless and have trouble just sitting their with myself and I constantly run to nicotine and weed to deal with it. I have so much anxiety from just constantly thinking and not being able to turn it off. I have to use like 100% of my brain power to properly focus on anything otherwise I only half focus. I’ve managed to do alot still I’ve just graduated last year and I work a lot and go to the gym but I constantly deal with these issues while I workout, or while I work, or while I try to sleep. It makes consistency pretty hard and I can’t keep a job for many months usually I just start to hate my job once I’ve been there long enough. It’s because I spend so much brain energy trying to keep all these issues under control while I’m under stress at work and by a month or two or so it’s really hard to keep that strength in your mind and that mentality. There was one year in my life before where I had alot of counselling and under my medication and I did super amazing and I just want to feel that way again. My mind was under control nothing running around uncontrolled and it was like that flashlight could be focused on one thing at a time instead of noticing everything and thinking about my whole environment like the example she gave with the broad flashlight. It seems like I have to use 100% of my brain to use the regular flashlight and focus on one thing at a time. I’m going to be seeking to be back on my meds but it’s definetly hard. Especially when you have bad habits that go along with it to try and cope.
You hit all the nails on the head , so hard. Felt every sentence of this. Such a struggle and it hurts when those closest get frustrated with you for it bc you’re already frustrated , you live with it. 25/8. Never ending thought vortex hell / half focus on autopilot until I manually turn on the flashlight
With certain motivations or stimulation (mine was mostly fear) I found that the symptoms of ADD can impact quality of life less. But once the motivating factors are no longer present or maybe change the symptoms can revert or begin to affect your quality and experience of life. It can affect your mindfulness. This is another thing. Throughout my life dealing with certain psychological issues; whether it was my approach to them, my awareness of them, or certain other factors, they can completely change the way my ADD has affected me i.e. The more personal and emotional challenges I have faced from external forces, my awareness, motivations and approach to dealing with them has changed or rather, has been affected. The brain unfortunately does not just learn one way of strategic coping and then forever stick to it. Your brain is constantly developing, changing, growing, accumulating, based on new information and stimuli etc... When you have other psychological issues on top of ADD (i.e. Complex PTSD and/or BPD) it's even more difficult to regulate and maintain coping strategies because you are even more prone to affective environmental factors, your perception and emotional regulation is challenged even more. I have come to the point in my life let's say that my ADD is becoming crippling. It's becoming embarrassing and stressful where once it felt more under control. My mindfulness as this lady put it has been constantly affected by my other psychological issues. I am not a psychologist, I have never been diagnosed with ADD by one either but I know it is there and always has been. It's only really in the last few years that I have noticed it has become a more centrally disabling factor in my life. It is very real though. I'm really glad that there are people like Joe Rogan who can keep an open mind enough to try and explore and learn about stigmatising mental health issues.
I love the flashlight food light analogy, so true. Diagnosed at 46, spent a life time detached, feeling on the outside, no one understands me, irrational thoughts, anxiety and depression and always found juggling those balls pushed me to the max. That floodlight is wide open, and the internal dialogue that provides a constant stream of narrative inside your mind is overwhelming. It doesn’t switch off and it produces a constant underlying anxiety due to the repetition and negative connotation. There is no clear definition between positive, focused thoughts and negative, destructive dialogue that comes from assessing every situation. It was only when I started taking medication that this internal dialogue switched off, and allowed my brain some peace. Since this, I have very little anxiety and depression, can focus more on day to day tasks and have more motivation to get up and do things without the flood light going into over drive. It’s a mentally demoralizing situation to be in and a constant internal battle that most people wouldn’t be aware of.
I'm 18 and got diagnosed a couple months back and am so excited to try therapy and medication. I'm in desperate need for someone or something to help me with this burden.
Mindfulness helps train attention to switch between sensation and thinking modes of mind. You get relief from that internal chatter. And to change your relationship to it
While watching the podcast, I was really interested in it. But got distracted and had to replay and I am pretty sure I’ll have to do it again a few more times to watch it completely haha
I definitely have ADHD as I lost interest 2 minutes into this. And she’s very intelligent. I wanted to hear what she’s saying but I could only get through the first two minutes before I realized my mind started drifting onto other things.
to be fair, she gave a very convoluted answer to a simple question asked by Joe. When Joe talks I can easily focus and pay attention to what he's saying, when she talks I drift off and get bored. Do I have ADHD or is she just boring and uncaptivating?
Very eye opening thank you! Im 28 and ADD has been a struggle my whole life. But the more I understand about it the easier it is for me to manage. I tend to hyper focus on specific things or thoughts. The problem is that I tend to miss all the rest of the information around me. Sometimes people even get offended too which has got me in into trouble a few times. Mindfulness is now my best tool for keeping my mind on the now and I'm getting better at it every day
Ok hi ! I’m a massage therapist that’s just gotten screened for ADHD / ADD , it makes like 14 different sub boxes that you want to say all at once. It’s a lack of getting out of you’re own way. Joe you have gone through the ego death ! You’re doing great brotha! It’s from being raised by screaming animals that have narcissistic abusers from their past. Also from seeing my siblings have learning disabilities.
I was on Ritalin from age 4 to age 20 and it is such a difficult drug to be on without meta awareness. I found myself in high school writing pages of stories and making art (which I admit helped me later as an artist) but my flash light was so focused on one thing I wish people wouldn’t have overmedicated me and taught me more mindfulness of where my hyper focus should have gone. Love this guest.
This is one of, if not, the most valuable videos I have ever watched. I wish I could personally thank Amishi for introducing this way of managing my thoughts.
ADD is totally real. I spent 39 years of my life wrestling with those demons. Decades of mindfulness and meditation helped me to cope with it. It wasn't until I finally gave into the idea of diagnosis (I was afraid of the stigma that such a lable can give to a person), and took my first pill when I realized that my life did not have to be anywhere near as hard as it was. ADD is a bitch, and it has ruined my life in several ways. Thankfully, I have finally been given a chance to take my life back!
This exactly!!! I’m 24 so not as long as you but I’ve done or used literally every helpful tool you could imagine for add/adhd. From “dopamine detox” for months on end to meditating for an hour everyday. I kind of found it annoying how people like (and I like joe don’t get my wrong) Joe kind of hinted like “oh can’t they just meditate and stop looking for handouts with the drugs they’re given”. Fuck that, why do we have to work our whole day around being baseline functional with all these practices when others don’t?
The meds work for 5-8 years good luck after they fry ur insides, take it from someone whose been on the meds since 19 it gave me a degree. But not much else.
i am 47 and finally was diagnosed with ADHD. I could have been in honors but was average because of ADHD. I had 28 jobs and 10 years and ended up on disability due to a misdiagnosis. For the first time ever I feel like I can get my life straight. So the try harder thing may apply to some but for me trying harder became debilitating.
this is literally the best definition of ADHD i’ve ever heard. if clinicians could diagnose based on this definition, it would save many of the adhd sufferers the years of struggle not knowing what is wrong with you because “everyone has trouble with attention”
I’ve been diagnosed and taking meds since I was like 5. It’s not exactly being distracted but having the inability to be productive, fast thinking, disciplined, and just any sort of efficient outcome. Thinking is like swimming against a tide, the harder to try to focus and to be better the further off you fade. Nootropics counter that where you can be efficient, it’s not a mind over matter thing I’m 18 right now and I’m no psychologist but I’m only assuming that the only way you can be good at what you do is if you very deeply and thoroughly enjoy it for fun, and doing it isn’t discipline but natural. Like something you think is so fun and easy you can do it in your sleep sort of thing. I think it’s deeper and more complicated than just self-actualization, I believe it is possible where you yourself can counter these effects for all things you do, but it takes insane psychological intelligence/skill and most people can’t.
He had one on. Andrew Huberman. Though they didn't specifically talk about ADHD, you can watch an entire episode he (Andrew) dedicated to ADHD. It's on YT.
Yes I agree, this is almost a bs theory to try and make people focus better. We need an actual specialist, who understands what is causing this issues with lack of dopamine and neurotransmitters issues. Is she trying to sell something? 🤔 is she going to tell people who need glasses just try and look a look a little closer.
@@dannyjohnson8051 The reason I'm a little irritated is because when joe asked is adhd real she goes on about how mindfulness is a effective treatment which strengthens the belief adhd is not a serious condition. yeah mindfulness can help people however the issues are not because the person isn't calm. For instance give a hyper child a normal level of dopamine via medication, the symptoms from the lack of immediately disappear. You can't treat a lack of dopamine via just mindfulness it has little effect on the mind when the issues it much deeper than just behaviour and thought.
I learned this about attention since I was 14 during a Buddhist meditation class. I'm so glad I learned it from a young age because it shifted how I view reality completely.
Exactly! I relate to this so much, that's basically my whole life all summed up in a few sentences. That's exactly what it feels like. Not being on the same page, feeling disconnected, stuck and alive but not really living. Always as far as I remember this has been just so.
I have ADD, and and had big depressions aswell.. but i have to say that with a little find fullness trick i learned to not be depressed as much. I have exepted that i am different in the way i think. like thinking all the time about EVERYTHING but, i can advise you to write down the negative thoughts in your head. like: i am stuck in this stupid world. and then think of an positive opposite, like: i am awesome and i am here to make this world a better place. even if it sounds totally unbelevable just write that down 20 times underneath the first sentence. so next time that negative thought will pop in your head u will think also about the positive thing u wrote down. it sounds so stupid bit this slowly started changing my life, and the way i think about myself. i accept who i am and actually think ADD/ADHD people are often a lot smarter then normal people, but just completly misunderstood by the schooling systems.. beleive me the world has a lot to learn from people like us. and for completing tasks and getting motivation to do things i can advise you to either find someone who wants to do it with you so u feel motivated because ur not alone in that situation and u can ask him or her to help u to keep your attention and not talk about other things then the task. if you cant find annyone for that u can try and make a challenge for yourself, maybe like for cleaning the house u say u are going to do it in one hour, then u set the timer and go try and do in in that time. if u dont finnish just accept your loss and go do something else and u might want to add 15 minutes next time. it can make it more fun to do, and it helps with the dopamine problem we have. sorry for the bad spelling and the long text, just wanted to share this with who ever needs it.
I am 39 and was just diagnosed with ADD. Its been so difficult to understand it as I never had it explained to me. So I've been reading, watching videos, etc to understand it. She explains it so well!! I am just starting medication while waiting for a spot to open up with a counselor who specialized with ADD and executive functioning.
As a Marine with ADHD I owe my survival to it. In Fallujah I could see and focus on so many things at 1 time that even the best of my fellow Marines wouldn't see. It was a curse in School when young but if you imbrace it and use it properly, control and channel it, then ADHD is a godsend. I finished a Bio Informatics degree and Bio Chem Degree in 3 years taking 20-28 credit hours per week. Used them to get in a FMAT program at Baylor and am finishing my last year of required residency for my MD. Took me 6 years total..... Only negative issues my ADHD caused me in adulthood was finding a woman that could keep up with me.....
Congrats man. I'm in undergrad at Baylor and can identify with just how difficult it is in school, so it's awesome to hear that you're killing it particularly at BCOM!
Someone mentioned hyperfocusing and it can be extremely useful or extremely destructive. I liked Amishi's point of continuously checking in on oneself because I'll catch myself hyperfocusing on the wrong things
@@ElevatedLevetator disagree. I took training as a child and had several ADD. Not ADHD, ADD. After training, I took my multitrack mind, and got it to cross the streams, and now they synergies toward a goal. I'll absolutely smoke you and anybody if I'm tasked to do what you do. It's absolutely an advantage to be able to think ten fold out beyond normal thought process, once trained.
I've been hyperfocused on what's this whole covid shit is really about. How event 201 was done the month before and how deagles world gdp/population model 2017-2025 showed huge drops in gdp and population in Western countries
I Was diagnosed with add as kid definitely could not focus on anything I was not interested in. But I definitely agree with her I’ve learned that threw the years just being aware of the way my mind works and researching tools has been a tremendous help,and using the advantages and being aware of the obstacles and learning and developing tools to help the process of growth 💯
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I have ADHD and don't be fooled by the name of the syndrome, actually the atention defficit and hiperactivity is not the hardest part of this disorder, what is really hard for me is the emotional disregulation, lack of motivation to do things of finish tasks, sleep disorders, impulsivity or compulsivity wich leads to adictions and strange behaviors and habits, feeling always like the world and the people are not on the same page as I am, feeling disconnected and just stuck in some kind of limbo thats feels like agony, I feel like Im just staying alive but not really living, not enjoying life and constantly failing to do the simplest tasks for normal people and to find them wort doing them.
Are you me
Yuuussss
@@PointBlankStudios we look normal to other people but we really feel like we don't belong in this world, maybe we are aliens lol.
maybe you also have asperger?...I mean just because you mentioned feeling disconnected and and that the world/people are not on the same page. and people with asperger often also have ADHD (comorbid).
@@eymario It may be, actually I have a nephew with autism, so it runs in the family, thank you, I,m gonna look for it.
As a person with ADD, it was a real challenge for me to keep my focus on while listening to this very thorough and indirect answer to Joe’s question.
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As a person who also has ADD I agree with your statement
Im gonna guess youre self diagnosed
Me too! Ive literally gone back like ten times and ended up not paying attention like a mf. Im still not past the five minute mark.
Pardon? Could you repeat that?
I’ve had ADHD my entire life. The deficit is not that I can’t pay attention to things, it’s that I pay attention to everything and can’t filter anything. People can say what they want about meds but they changed my life at 54 years old. It was like taking off the cheapest, itchiest sweater you can ever imagine and finally being comfortable in my skin.
what made you decide to take medication?
hope they still work for you in x years; meds are fantastic for a while making everyone feel great- until it just blows up later when they aren't as good as they used to be (tolerance) and end up on a max dosage; i.e. come to the end of a damn rope - anyway; sorry to be so negative- I'm just sick of seeing friends, family and loved ones suffer while some doctor thinks he did such a great job because it worked for a few years...in all honesty tho...hope your story goes differently; same with anyone else who may read this
@@nicolebelanger6692 there’s multiple different types of medication and someone could be misdiagnosed with adhd when they have anxiety or depression
@@kratz.fitness yes I know...I'm very (and painfully) aware
@@kratz.fitness So, several things. I am a social worker but the job I was in was mostly training for agencies and personnel regarding DV and child abuse. However, that job was being rewritten to include clinical social work (individual and family counseling). I avoided clinical social work my entire career because the thought of being trapped in an office for hour long sessions with patients seemed overwhelming. It also meant taking a national exam for a clinical social work license. I had not taken a national exam since 1995. Also, my father was about midway through the fatal disease of dementia so I was working plus helping my mother quite a bit. That limited my time and energy and forced me to be much more organized than I was. I didn’t have the luxury of letting things get behind because there was no time to catch up with things. At the same time, I was working with a psychiatrist at my job who gave a workshop on adult ADHD and it solidified how ADHD I was (based on the sample screening tool).
I'm 54yo male, recently diagnosed with adult ADD and even my default escape 'daydreaming' brings no relief these days. I have never achieved anything, just bumbling through life, one anxious over whelming episode after another, poor at schoo, no academic achievment. No friends is the hardest part and no family support. I get why male suicide is so common around men my age. There has to be something better than this as I am so tired these days.
everyone’s got a purpose in this world you got this just keep pushing you’re the man
Keep pushing u not alone
@Samiya Masih No he needs fufillment not treatment
Brother, I’m here with you, it is not a fun condition, it is not happy condition to have and i wish people understood how horrible it can be, life is a party no one wants you at, ignores you when youre there unless its to point out your flaws, where no one can relate to you
Turn to Christ.
I am a physician and have dealt with ADHD my entire life. I have read virtually every notable piece of literature on this neurologic disorder. The single biggest mistake clinicians make is looking at ADHD through the prism of attention, or lack thereof. ADHD is far more involved and goes way beyond attention pathology. It is a constant state of (relative) anxiety and desire for stimulus. Going to church, waiting in lines, listening to boring conversation...all of these things can be excruciating for ppl with ADHD.
I agree. There is an underlying agitation in the body and the mind becomes restless searching for a distraction to this discomfort. For many, this agitation can be below the threshold of conscious awareness. The constant switching of attention is the seeking of relief. TRE (Tension and Trauma Releasing Exercises), can do a lot to discharge this agitation and calming the mind. This is a self-help tool that can be learned through youtube videos, treforall website, an app etc.
@@christinaguimond1706 Yes. Sadly, some ppl attempt to alleviate this agitated state in a self-destructive manner. For those who suffer the most, controlling their condition can be all-encompassing. I find it exhausting at times.
Can they just give in to the pain of the anxiety, let it run it's course, then re-train amygdala to be easily reactive instead of lying there dead to the world?
@@azdbuk The underlying pathology is most likely a neurotransmitter problem....as opposed to a neuroanatomical issue anywhere in the limbic system. Selective areas of DA deficiency (and likely other neurotransmitters) is thought to be the main pathology. At this point the underlying pathology is not completely understood.
@@DavidP793 k. good, trying to understand my adhd friends better. I have many.
Just diagnosed at 25, was called lazy my entire life, and abused for bad grades. I felt stupid and dropped out of college at 19. JRE became my podcast of choice, and over time, listening to the various guests on the show, I’ve been inspired to read various books by them.
Today, I’m on my medication, and have re-enrolled in school in the hopes of putting the first man on Mars. I’m reading regularly, working out, and facing my fears one day at a time. It’s ok to not be ok 👌🏼
Fuck yea man you got this!
What medication are you taking brotha?
best of luck dude
Keep up the good work, you got it!
Cosmic, any books you recommend?
I got diagnosed with ADD when I was 60, 3 years ago, it explained so much of why my life had been the way it had since I was a kid. I felt so much compassion for the young boy, teenager and man I had been, and why some things always seemed more of a struggle for me than others. They offered me Amphetamines, but I said no thank you I did all that in the 80s and 90s, Ive have survived life so far and am perfectly happy the way I am. Thank you for sharing this JRE.
I was 56. While I was happy to finally have some treatment, there was a bit of sadness thinking of what could have been if my parents were a little more willing to accept that my behavior wasn’t a character issue.
65!
@@kathryncainmadsen5850 Good for you, and best wishes, be kind and patient with yourself, and good luck !
@@peppermint661 Yep, I can relate to that, and teachers too !
51 at my diagnosis. I had been struggling with the “bipolar” diagnoses I was given 20 years before. I was medicated for years with antipsychotic drugs which made me feel worse, I tried telling Drs, yes I was depressed at the time but no I do not have Bipolar. That diagnoses was finally dropped when I was 49, and at that time my son was diagnosed with adhd, the more I researched it the more the prices fell into place. When I received my adhd combined type I cried, the relief at knowing that there was something different in the way my brain worked, I also felt sad when I thought back to how much damage this has caused to my self esteem, my relationships, the chaos my life had been. It was like I was finally heard. Now I can use tools I have learnt and implement them into my everyday life, to help things run a little more smoothly. Although adhd has caused problems, it has also been my super power as well. I wouldn’t change who I am but I wish that I had of had the opportunity to have had someone really take the time to listen to my concerns and dig a little deeper to find a diagnoses sooner, years were wasted in a drug induced antipsychotic medication filled stupor, it was a difficult time and I can not remember a lot of the earlier years of my children growing up.
Having ADHD and being unaware of it and undiagnosed with it is literally one of the most isolating feelings that makes you feel insecure about yourself and hate yourself for a long, long time.
Watching everyone else do something you can’t do, and finally coming to terms that you are simply just born “stupid” and “lazy”
And then one day getting diagnosed with ADHD, it is the most emotional feelings in the world, everyone who’s been diagnosed often say the same thing
“I feel so bad for my younger self, I’m so sorry to my younger self, I gave myself such a hard time and made myself accept that it couldn’t be helped”
the reason why is because taking medication for the first time literally feels like being blind your whole life then 23 years into your life finally putting on a pair of glasses and finally seeing the world at its clearest. Medication is like finally being able to understand the world at its clearest, control our functions with ease, and do simple tasks that you couldn’t do before.
Personally I think I may have it, but I really don't care. I think having the hard concrete fact of knowing has the potential to give me a excuse, I also feel it may make me more aware of how I work and in regards to my life working backwards as well as the opportunity to build upon it as needed.
Me personally though I like not knowing. Idk why but It creates the space thats only for me and I feel so far through my life I have been able to deal with whatever it is at hand. Sure I know my flaws. I know what I need help with, or need to learn better yet. I havent had to yet reach out for help in that regard. I have had a moment where I just didn't understand anything about myself but I think it just lies in that. The choice to face yourself.
Some need to know to help this some don't. Maybe I do go and find out myself in the future, but just perspective
Tldr: I don't believe i need to know, at least yet. I believe that working on yourself is the key to dealing with whatever may be even if you need support
As a child I can remember watching some kids read books for fun. I thought those people were truly oddballs. I can remember asking myself why anyone would want to torture themselves by reading the same paragraph over and over again before staying focused enough to ‘get it’. I had no way of knowing I was the ‘oddball’.
Medication is not the answer for everyone. In my case it made things worse. I didn’t like the way it made me feel at all & honestly I find that doing mental exercises & setting small goals towards one big goal in mind & other things I do work better. Exercise definitely helps too. Most ppl are just too lazy to try new or different things and rely too much on big pharma. That shit made me a zombie, no thanks. Natural cures for me. Cannabis helps too. I find that my hyper-focus on certain things is actually a blessing.
Adhd Reddit thread has a great community. There are like maybe 3 threads, I forgot which one I follow but everyday there is a post from someone talking about what they thought was a weird quirk of theirs which usually ends up being an adhd thjng.
@@JennaLeeEquals3 Medication just makes me more outgoing, then I crash. Meds messed me up. Nutrition and exercise are the foundation of managing symptoms
Having ADD is horrendous. In elementary school I was the village idiot, and they labeled me "feeble minded." I daydreamed my way through every class. Things were no better in highschool, and I graduated at the bottom of my class. At that point I just assumed I had a very low IQ, and my self esteem was in the toilet. Yet I'm a gifted musician and photographer, I love to write, and I read every day. I'm constantly restless and craving stimulation. I meditate and study scripture every morning which has been tremendously beneficial. I ended up completing two University degrees, teaching all my life, married 4o years and becoming an accomplished musician. I give all thanks to meditation and prayer.
Gayyy
You just described someone that is unable to meditate and then tacked on meditation.
“Craving stimulation” is the state of mind that meditation gets you away from.
And meditation isn’t an activity you “do” for like ten minutes a day,
If you are able to reach the state of meditation, it’s a state you’re in from the moment you wake up onward haha
Probably due more to meditation than prayer
Thank you for this comment. My 10-year-old has ADHD but not the “hyper” type - just the daydreamer. It’s a great quality but it has also made it hard for him in school. I like hearing stories like yours where things all worked out. ❤️❤️
@@bitofwizdomb7266 what is it you experience in your mental powers that negates the power of prayer or elevates you through meditation as you must have a reason or knowledge, of why one doesn't get your attention?
i have ADD, i noticed while she's explaining ADD, i was listening and paying attention then i started to think about how the flashlight is a good way to represent it then i realized i lost her for a few minutes because i was thinking about it then i started thinking about how i lost her and lost her again. had to watch the video a few times.
Have you seen the video
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True.
@S O F I A bruh
Yeah me too man that's jokes
Same i hadn't taken my vyvanse yet lol
My life changed a month ago when I read the book adhd 2.0 and then their earlier book driven to distraction by Halloween & Ratey. I cried often through the book as I listened to the authors describe with such detail many experiences and emotions I had felt since I could remember going back to early childhood.It took 44 years to finally figure out and find the diagnosis of ADHD. It’s been a rollercoaster journey to get here. Will share some aspects that might help others. I hit MDD ( major depression) about 4 years ago. As that lifted over the last few years through medicine, therapy and self care I got to a place where I was able to be more in touch with myself. With depression lifting it felt at times that maybe I was hypomanic which I still consider a possibility. My psychiatrist had mentioned over a year ago the idea that my symptoms may be consistent with ADD. I didn’t give it much thought until I stumbled on the above mentioned books.
It’s just one diagnosis and doesn’t change everything. But it certainly helps encounter challenges that I was feeling stuck navigating and now with new tools has opened up new doors. Remember diagnosis limit and put us in boxes but if we are nuanced in figuring out who we are then we can use these diagnosis to our advantage. And especially ADD where we do have extra powers in this world. But also seem to have an extra challenge of figuring out how to use them. And that challenge never goes away. We can hopefully identify it and then use it more constructively. And once we do that …oh boy do we have a gift and maybe even a super power!
We live in special times! Remember every challenge, obstacle and difficulty is a question. Did deep. Find out who you are and why you are here. Be curious. And the world will start to become your friend. Fears will dissipate. Oh this is not an easy journey. This will test you every part of you. You will doubt yourself . And as you reveal your new self to others they will often not be pleased with your new discoveries. And that’s where the real fun ( and pain ) begin. You then may have to learn to start to trust, believe and have faith in yourself. And learn how to integrate your new self and way of thinking into the old world that you left behind. Not easy. But that becomes the new challenge and question. Ok let’s stop. If this helps anyone I can continue writing.
Sending peace, love and blessings to all! ❤️
Hello Sim, well written and described as to how some of us come to figure these things out ! We must be brothers because I feel exactly like YOU do with this as you say Superpower .
Checkout Gabor Mate's book, "Scattered Minds" or the interview of him on JRE that just released.
I got diagnosed and prescribed recently at 25. I never had definite add/adhd as a kid, but once I got into high school and then my young adult life I started having issues. Constantly underachieving and struggling to balance things. The flashlight analogy makes sense to me, I am always hyper focused on a different hobby or thing every month or two. Anything super important gets put on the back burner until it’s too late and I do it out of being fueled by anxiety. However when I take adderall I feel that same energy of being fueled to do things, without it being anxiety driven. It’s great. I was previously proud of how well I could get things done when I was extremely anxious about it, but now I can perform to the same level without the fear in my brain haha.
Yes sir it's like a veil being removed that you never knew was there.
Look at your diet. Americans have so many issues.
this is exactly how i would describe my life. stay blessed bro
Sounds like bipolar tbh fam.
Be careful. Adderall is addictive, and decreases its effectiveness over time.
For my ADD/ADHD kindred!
The brain's attention system (AS)
00:45 The first AS is like a flashlight that *scans* narrow areas
03:20 The second AS is like a floodlight that *scans* wide areas
04:37 Both lights can be directed externally and internally
04:57 The third AS is called Executive Control and *selects* goals like an exec in a company
07:47 Is your life negatively impacted by the way your attention functions? You just might have ADD/ADHD.
08:14 Meta-awareness is deliberately focussing your attention toward the contents of conscious thought. If you have that + ADD, you might not get fired from your job, because you're functional enough thanks to Meta-awareness.
09:30 Joe asks, if behavioral focus training is better than medicating. Amishi said she let her patients take the medication while doing behavioral training. They later said, that before the training the Ritalin alone helped them to successfully focus on useless bullshit (only flashlight). After the training they developed Meta-awareness, which allowed them to *focus their focus* on important tasks (floodlight + flashlight).
Legend
Thanks mate, needed that
FleshLight!? 😂😂👌🏽👌🏽🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼
Saved so many different people from so many irrelevant moments of space and time. 👏 what was I saying? 🤔
UNDERRATED COMMENT! thank you :^)
Ugh. I love this. Like many here, I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early 30s and have been trying to "define" it since. I think this might be the most relatable metaphor to help the neurotypicals in my life understand how it works. What isn't talked about enough - and beyond important - is the effect that brain chemistry has in attention regulation. ADHD is, in many ways, a function of a significant dopamine deficiency. It's the search for dopamine that causes the impulsivity, emotional disregulation, predisposition to addiction, procrastination anxiety, etc. That's one of the reasons I liked this analogy, because the "executive" in the room - as she calls it - is supposed to keep the attention primarily focused on the "goals" of the given situation. Well, when the need for dopamine is extremely high, that executive is motivated to shift goals rapidly to meet the chemical need for dopamine. In a normal state, it means the urge to buy things, use drugs, put off work/chores until later, etc. are prioritized as urgent goals because they are dopamine releasing activities. I don't WANT to buy that thing, or have that drink, but my brain knows that it will give me dopamine and it makes the urges feel like a survival-oriented activity. Another dopamine releasing activity is "discovery" (finding something new that interests/excites us). This is why so many people with ADHD have a long trail of hobbies or failed pursuits. It also explains our hyperfixated state; we discover a thing that provides dopamine and we chase it like our life depends on it.
This all gets more complicated and nuanced when you layer in anxiety, but this comment is long enough (and my trains of thought are departing).
I’ve never heard of that discovery addiction you described. Seems the best thing to do to address that would be to go deeper and deeper into one thing and get completely inside of it because that’s where the fun really starts. We almost require some sort of external apprenticeship to structure our progression because without it we (me anyway) are way too eager to congratulate ourself and yeah, move on to other unrelated things.
Loved readying everything minute of this all of it I can relate too so much
This is why strenuous exercise is great for ADD/ADHD. I work out alone because it is an intense training & when I am in training mode, I cannot tolerate ‘social’ interruptions. I had to stop going to the gym because of the people wanting to socialise while I was trying to exercise/train. I NEED the intense training for my dopamine fix. The best part is hitting the runner’s high during my runs. That feels like heaven, just like when I play my heart out on my piano. Yeah, it sounds crazy but some of us are just highly sensitive & intense people. Haha
@@ozymandiaspbs Do you listen to music while lifting? Do you watch videos/tv while doing cardio. I agree with the many benefits of exercising, but my mind will still wonder while working out. Especially while lifting.
@@ChristianFlores-dj9gj - Yes, I listen to music, usually techno/trance or dance music. I love disco music, so I often listen to MJ’s “Off The Wall” album since it is mostly disco songs. I also do some yoga & meditation before (for focus) AND after (to calm down). When I switch between exercise sets (Chest -> Legs) I will dance a bit because I cannot help myself. Haha 🕺🎶
The funny thing about my ADHD is the fact that during this video I literally put my “flashlight of attention” that she described away from the actual video and her talking, to swooping out and looking at basketball news for minutes as the video continued to play. I was literally blocking out what she was saying. Living with ADHD is crazy and people mistake it as just laziness
I do this alllll freakin day. I drive myself nuts.
Lmaoo I was doing the same but googling shit I was thinking of then came back and had to restart the video
Undiagnosed until 27, I struggled my whole life. Wondering why it was so hard for me to do things others seemed to be absolutely fine doing. I was volatile and being a 5'11 heavy set male that was not a great thing to be. Since starting meds, everything is easier. Life doesn't have to be so difficult. If you can get on without medication then that's great. Good for you. I didn't need to be on them until I had major responsibility.
My mind wandered off while she was talking.
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That's add . get checked for it .. Be safe
Aye doc, I see what you did there!
Same
I never realize when my mind wanders so I appear to be paying attention but I'm lost unless I smoke indica and code
I find that I actually perform tasks better if I’m “distracting” my mind by listening to podcasts. It keeps me focused on the task without getting distracted or seeking a different stimulus. Obviously it doesn’t work for everything, but it’s great for chores like cleaning or washing dishes.
This is why I gotta listen to music at work
I can’t have any distractions. I sold almost all of my possessions and decluttered my entire room so I have less shit that takes up my peripheral vision.
My room is literally a bed, a desk, a chair, a computer & a closet with my clothes in it. Other than that, it’s pretty much empty & blank, with the purpose of eliminating as many distracting things from my sight as possible so my brain doesn’t go haywire.
I do my best work when my room is completely quiet. Music or podcasts distract me too much.
Meditation helps clear the mind too.
This is exactly what I do! I have to watch films or listen to podcasts while working. I even watched films while revising for school and uni exams. I always explain to people that doing this switches off the part of my brain that gets bored and looks for something to do while the other part of my brain focuses on work.
YESSS. I literally can’t do house chores without it. It’s painful😂
Same! I have to listen to podcast or music to stay on track the best I can.. however, I can't have clutter distractions around me.. I also need a certain vibe... if the vibe is off, production will not happen
don’t really know how to explain this without like writing an essay about my experiences with shrooms, but my psychedelic experiences have seriously helped me better understand my add and how to kind of regulate the more difficult aspects of it, being the lack of motivation i feel, my depressive episodes that come from such, my weird fixations, my periods of being unable to sleep on a regulated schedule etc. never understood the way my brain worked better than when i got got off my meds and took time to trip and develop a serious sober meditation and exercise habit.
This adds an extra level of awareness as to what’s happening in my brain which is great. I’ve found personally the only way to control my adhd is to literally micro-manage myself minute by minute, creating a schedule where every moment has a set task that I’m supposed to be doing. I also make time to do stuff I like, so that there’s balance. Add/adhd is not easy, I too have been called lazy endlessly. People without it don’t understand
Takes bong hit..
“Shit what’d she say?”
Rewinds three times.
Takes another hit.
Goes to rewind, sees tim Dillion’s new video.
*Click.*
LOOOL
Literally.
Omg thank you! Lol
Yes 😉🥰
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As somebody who has struggled with ADD my whole life, I feel extremely lucky to have found a lucrative job skill that can keep my brain from wandering. Coding for 8 hours feels like 8 minutes to me. Hyperfocusing is now a perk rather than a drawback. For anyone who has ADD, try to find an employable skill that you actually find interesting. I know it's much easier said than done, but once you find it many of your problems will become manageable or disappear altogether. That's why it's good to try a lot of different things.
I’m a coder as well , the day literally flys by it’s 3pm and I just made myself a coffee for the 9am morning group call it’s crazy lol
@Paul Smith very relatable
I’m thinking about switching careers. I am a project manager and I’m absolutely drowning
@@deecee7042 do you take adhd medicine? I hear exercising in the morning helps focus alot
@@i.n.2899 I just started meds on Thurs. I exercise nearly everyday (albeit, in the evenings)
Wonderful interview! Love the guests that have intense knowledge and you allow them to talk - thanks ☘️
Reading the comments and listening at the same time only to realize I had an ADHD moment while learning about it. I'm sure I'm not the only one here lol
Did you actually just self diagnose yourself with a lifelong disability, over comments and a Joe Rogan podcast? Jesus Christ. Go speak to an actual psychologist.
That is not ADHD
@@hassaanawan367 like for real, people will say they have adhd but somehow, they will have focus to be 5 hours on tiktok or play video games all day. and then when they need to work, now they are not LAZY they have ADHD.
@@akai3717 yes
@@akai3717 I mean I get it but people with adhd can often hyperfixate on specific interests they have. And adhd isn’t about not being able to focus, the not being able focus is more so the product of the reward system in the brain. The ADHD brain goes for immediate quick gratification that can be found in tiktok and video games, but completing tasks and being incentivized to work may be harder.
Joe: how does ADD work?
Amishi: *explains in ADD*
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Fr this hurt my brain
You've got to start parenting children from day 1.
You can't wait until they're 7 or 8 to start teaching and expect them to be able to keep up with kids who have had 2 responsible parents from birth.
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ADHD has genuinely made my whole life an uphill battle. I refuse to take any medications for it, because they make me feel awful and bland, like a zombie.
I feel you bro. When I got diagnosed I was put on all these different medication that affected my mood, apetite, emotions, they made me feel so damn blunt and boring and not myself. In the last year and a half I’ve stopped all meds and started meditating daily which IS now my ‘medication’ I think it would really help. As well as this I had an experience with lsd which allowed me to accept that adhd is a part of who I am and I don’t need meds I need to be my authentic self. Adhd is not a burden brother it’s a gift we are lucky and blessed because I can’t imagine how boring life would be without it. I hope this helped you in some way ❤️
Your not alone mate 👍
Maybe you're on the wrong ones? I actually find both Ritalin and Adderal to be beneficial in their own situations. Adderal is normally my daily morning dose for dopamine and to help me do things to continue dopamine release through completion of tasks. The Ritalin is good if im sitting down and trying to grind out a project I wanna do, or even sometimes if I have to grind out a shitty part of a game (resource collecting, for example) and makes it the only focus, and feel rewarding to do.
I'm on all kinds of shit too, although I got diagnosed with Tourettes at the same time I did ADHD/ADD.. I don't think the doctors know/care enough to find out which one it is to be honest. So in my opinion, you gotta self medicate and self diagnose cuz the medical system is a fucking racket. If I took everything they gave me on the schedule they prescribed I would be in a lot worse situation than I am now, I think. Just the same but on more daily dosages of drugs. Gotta be the master of your own domain so-to-speak and make sure that you're the one taking the drugs - and that the drugs don't start "taking you".
Best of luck man, im pullin for ya! We're all in this together... Keep your stick on the ice. :D
Take Adderal it's great. Gives you energy. When I first took it I was on 1-10mg per day but over the course of 2- years I am now taking one 20mg and one 30mg. The only downside is you must take them before say 1pm if you want to sleep that night. But each person is different and you'll quickly learn how your body reacts. But they've been a lifesaver for me. Unfortunately, I didn't start taking them until I was in my 40s
I’m with u there mate
i was diagnosed with adhd at a young age and shes really onto something with the flashlight analogy basicly what helps me is keeping my goals in order of importance and always being mindful of what gola im focused on first until said goal is done and immediately go too the next and if i focus hard enough i can get into a flow state and i just start to float through my daily tasks with precision its hard and takes practice but it works as long you practice mindfulness...
I have ADD and it's the craziest thing, I have a long time friend whom I've discussed this with, he's like my polar opposite when it comes to thinking and logic. It's like if im not purposefully focusing on what is required I can still do it, but not particularly well...but if I'm compulsively interested in something, man you can't stop me, at least until I lose that interest. It's hard to find motivation(which isn't just an ADD thing). And something I recently learned was that when my buddy looks at something, say when we're playing video games, his visual processing can do multiple things at once using focused and peripheral vision, while maintaining an "internal map" of where we're at and what's going on. I can never learn game maps, when I look somewhere I don't see anything but what I'm focused on trying to see. Our brains are literally wired differently and until discussing it he just got frustrated cuz he didn't understand, and I got frustrated that I couldn't do what he thought I should be able to. Another thing is it is almost impossible to keep my brain on task, it's almost like I just kinda float through life in this mental fog trying to get somewhere, but I'm too focused on not tripping over tree roots to see the left turn I'm missing
im the opposite for the vision part, i like to think i havs great vision and awareness, but for the most part i experience the same
lol sorry but I had to comment. fellow add-er here and I can’t find my way around a video game map to save my life. it’s months and months before I eventually learn the map ☺️
My ADD will likely prevent me from finishing this clip
I literally said this to myself before I clicked onto the vid
5 minutes in and reading this comment
I zoned out after 2 mins and came back in at 6..
4 minutes in and I forgot I was watching this video
Reading the comments too LMAO
Shoutout to my fellow ADD brothers and sisters out there. I feel like in the public view the ADHD people are the guitar players and we’re the bass players.
I've got ADD and also a bass player, I felt that 😂
ADD is hell because the combination of fatigue and procrastination just comes off as super lazy to other people. Plus without medication, anxiety and depression increases which can lead to drug abuse and other self-destructive behaviors that go unnoticed because our reclusive nature. Enter the negative feedback loop of dread and watch molehills become mountains.
@@NathanHoff96 it's like we're setup for failure, I can't imagine life without meds now
@@makatron So my son 💪🏼🎸
@@NathanHoff96 I actually like my add. Sure I'm a nightmare when I drive and talk but I actually like just zoning out. And sometimes i just say the funniest things cus I just don't know what's happening. The simple life.
Edit: I've also never been on meds. You can learn to live with it. Might take awhile
Such an amazing speaker ! Fallen in love with the music of her voice and the clarity of her explanations.
Recently diagnosed with Asperger's and ADHD as a senior citizen; it explained my whole life. This woman is right about attention. If I'm really interested in something, I'm laser focused and I'm ON it. If not, I realllly struggle getting this task done.
I also often say that this or that "wasn't in the front of my brain"...I often have thoughts or tasks that get pushed to the back of the line, so to speak. Unless I'm actively thinking of it as a priority, thoughts seem to hide somewhere. It's VERY annoying to others, and especially to me that my brain works this way. It's a main reason I keep a List of Today's Priorities going at all times.
Joe Rogan definitely suffers from ADHD *(Actively Discussing His DMT)*
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Not bad Rollo 🥁
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That is 100% Jodie Foster talking, can’t convince me otherwise.
On helium maybe, lol. Her voice is a lot deeper. The articulation and cadence is very similar.
😂 it does sound like her now that you mention it.
Nailed it
😏
Holy shit you are right
Love Joe for bringing this content to me. Keep up the great work!
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
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Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
I can't believe Joe got the Mona Lisa on the podcast.
You ever see that Mona Lisa smile movie with Julia Roberts?
Fr it’s tripping me out
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i love how she explained the flashlight,flood night and manager thing really puts things into perspective
Those 3 functions are literally dedicated sections of your brain and having ADHD means 1-3 of those sections have grown prematurely and as a result are weaker than someone normal.
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Flashlight, floodlight, or nightlight while those of us with ADD or ADHD have a strobe light. Our brains are merely overclocked and we don't experience things at the same speed as the normies. Hence the need for overstimulation before we reach task saturation. Which is why you're probably watching this video at 1.75x speed whilst scrolling through the comments. Our problem is not our attention(focus) but our retention of data packets which needs to improve.
@@ArchimedesDaVinci no, your exact problem is focus. If you actually paid attention youre not using your management of your "flashlight" and focus so u dont retain the information u need. Ur stuck kn the broad "floodlight" and see things happening but nothing specific. Flood light allows u to be aware that a person is walking by, the flashlight is narrowing of the mind to focus on a specific detail, which is directed by the management. U might know the person passed u by, but wouldn't have paid enough attention to say what brand of shoes they were wearing. Balnce is key
I was diagnosed with add around 7-8 years old. Parents said I’d grow out of it. Did nothing for it. Suffered depression, drug use, failed relationships, self sabotaging etc. diagnosed again at 36 got help and my life changed. I’m happy for this first time in my life.
I was diagnosed with ADD at 12. I’m 39 now unmedicated. That mindfulness training would 1000% help me! I hyper focus on the wrong tasks and things like laundry get left for WEEKS. Yoga also refocuses me too, likely in the same way.
My question is how you managed to actually keep up with the yoga cause I can’t do that 😂 like I’ll do something for 2 days then that’s it, cannot form habits to save my life 😅
“Theres a problem with your juggler” That felt personal 😂
She was definitely talking to you.
My juggler has been spinning plates this whole time. Oops.
😂😂😂
Can’t get your balls in the air?
I’ve had severe ADHD since I was young. My sister is someone to says ADHD isn’t real and it’s extremely insulting knowing all of the trouble it’s giving me in life. It’s more than just not being able to focus, it fucks with your interpersonal relationships and the way you operate in the world in general. I want so much for myself but it can be crippling. Most people don’t realize that ADHD over stimulates your mind to the point of exhaustion and Most people with ADHD struggle to get things done or do anything they want to do because their mind is constantly coming up with other things to do in the meantime. It’s just way more complex than we recognize it to be as a society
The cut at 7:57 seemed planned
Sounds made up.
@@Naldito15 it’s not.
@@ryderlandry9876 it is. Any doctor can diagnose you based on their flawed expertise and say you have add, adhd etc. And start making you pop pills like candy.. These supposed disorders cannot be proven its not like giving you a covid test.
Sounds like my wife has same. Undiagnosed. I’m sorry you are having a hard time. Thank you for explaining.
Great interview, thanks Joe. Thank you Ma'am.
I have always suffered from attention deficit disorder, hardest part was when I saw my son go through it in school. He was born with a congenital heart defects even though I did try medication after realizing it was deadly to him. I took him off. I went through all of the processes the school offered with the IEP program. I was very involved, especially after walking in his classroom 2nd grade, and, seeing him placed at the back of the class, behind a bookshelf, facing the wall. How devastated I was to see my son was treated that way, I struggled throughout elementary junior high and high school with him. through those years I found some very AMAZING teachers. Rare though. They were the difference in his life for sure! Our educational system, but not enough effort to our children who suffer from ADHD. All they wanted to do is throw medication at them. Even when I did try the medication I still got complaints from teachers either. He was hyper and talked too much and when I would try to counteract that they would give him medication that would make him fall asleep during class, so the teachers would then complain about that. It was so disturbing to see his whole personality diminish, and then him sleep for hours after school, barely able to function, and when I study, I realize the medication I was giving him could kill him. I couldn’t believe how ignorant I was I took them to institutions anything that I could do as a mother to help him in school. All the negative treatment from most teachers mad him hate school. It was abuse to him embarrassed almost bullied. They conversation I had omg. I switched school tried private school they would not let us in. I couldn’t even pay them to take a child with ADHD HE WAS SAMRT his grades didn’t reflect it obviously but all the negativity that came from his childhood ruined his outlook on education in a school setting. and It broke my heart. I am so glad that people are still studying this and I hope it helps to children because I do feel like the way they’re treated in school ruins, there though on education.
I am myself I’m back on attention deficit medication because I am hyper focused on the fact that my son died in a car accident and I can’t focus on anything else except for the fact so I take it so that I can work and move along in life. It’s some kind of medicated machine, which is awful but that’s a whole other topic. Still on the medication I want to focus on the death and that process not my job. So even medication are not helping me only to get up and go.
Thank you for your research.
Just 5 mins in and she sounds like a great teacher.
SImple and appropriate analogies to help the understanding with a pace that gives you ample time to internalize the content.
I actually took a class with her and it was a great experience! Super challenging but insightful :)
She’s like a female Neil Degrasse Tyson
Absolutely not
i couldn't disagree more strongly.
Man are we different. The content was interesting, but she took FOREVER to get to the point. I felt like I was loosing my mind for a while.
“Is ADHD real?”
* Scrolls through the comments and recommended videos missing the first minute of the video *
Yes, Joe.
I'm in this comment and I don't like it
He means is it real biologically or is it something you could be talked out of with therapy or coaching or whatever.
@@sabbracadabra8367 It's real biologically ...
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I was immediately annoyed when he asked that. That's a stupid question in 2021.
I was diagnosed with adult adhd at 20, my psychiatrist explained to to me as a sort of executive function disorder. For me I have always had motivational issues and difficulties in managing my time, estimating time to complete tasks and prioritizing tasks. I had never been great in school until recently, getting very average grades. But this year was different. I’ve completely crushed it, perfect grades and I’ve turned into a fucking machine. The difference being I’ve finally found a reason to work. If you have adhd a d find yourself going aimlessly through life, take time to really find a purpose or a goal, and use that to fuel your motivation. This is just something that really worked for me, so take it with a grain of salt I guess. I’m still totally dysfunctional in a lot of ways, but something that I think can help is to find a passion and really focus on that. That is where you will excel. Also talk to a psychiatrist and take your meds.
She’s spot on.
Medication calmed down the floodlights, focused the spotlight and improved the communication aspect for me.
I’m way more relaxed and aware now. Life changing and a big part of a broader treatment plan.
As an adult with diagnosed ADD, this is absolutely without a doubt the most accurate and relatable conveyance of what it’s like to have ADD that I have ever heard. Period.
I agree, was diagnosed as a child and now as an adult a year ago. My pyshologist actually kinda refused to use the term ADD or ADHD, he refer to me as having low executive function, but above average intelligence.
I actualy feel the exact oposit and I found her to be pretty clueless. It is funny how that can happen.
And if I took all the money away from both of you and said focus on this job or you’ll starve, both of u would focus😉
@@dukeduke2790 doesn't quite work like that unfortunately but thanks for playing, better luck next time.
@@dukeduke2790 maybe, maybe not. But that’s irrelevant because every moment in life can’t be governed by starving or not. Once we “survived” your immediate challenge we’d be right back in the same place.
I have had ADD my whole life, 47 years old. Had to learn how to live with it on my own. For example, to get something out of this, I took rigorous notes, paused and/or rewinded at several points to get what I missed while I was writing.
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@Paul Smith that sucks man, I know what you're talking about though. When I was exercising regularly, eating no sugar, and drinking a lot of water every day it seemed like I was 50% better. I wish i had the answers though man.
Same here. Just realizing at 49 how much this has affected my life.
I like how she calls thinking about external things "subsampling reality" I've never thought of it directly before but its exactly what we do!! But for me I also can use my imagination to predict the outcomes, based on my understanding of whatever it is. I've learned a lot about my mind in the last few years and it's pretty interesting to me how many people have never felt the need to actually do that.
I feel like if everybody was less interested in occupying themselves for "the moment" and would take time to realize how advanced we are instead of listening to what other people say and just taking it as "reality" we would have a lot better of a society... but instead people are overwhelmed constantly by the things the world has pre planned for us!! Nobody asks questions anymore!!Also, not everyone gets a chance to understand the limits of their mind anymore I think it's so wrong. It's almost like our government wants us to be dull and doubtful........ everyone is unique and you might have the answer to something that nobody else has. Don't let the big man steal your idea. Have you noticed how many senseless people have money? This world isn't that complicated. Our species is just stressed out because modern society is unlike anything our ancestors had to deal with. It's so dull and there's supposedly an answer to everything on the internet, the worst part is that people choose to believe the news instead of researching the endless platform of information. I don't like to label people, but I do think questioning reality is a sign of intelligence. The human species is suffering horribly because our leaders are manipulative asf!!
Meh, some tired ramblings that came to mind when reading your comment.
The subsampling part of what she is describing is just more how we work in general ( which i believe you wrote), our brains work in a way where it will actively discard certain things as to not overwhelm our senses.. it's more or less a subconscious/passive filter... the two "modes" she describes is a "more or less" situation as no matter what we do these filters are going to be there always just with switching focus and scope (being at that expanded focus/scope is not optimal though.. which is why we get VERY tired after long periods of this... our brains are glucose hogs after all and are simply not made to run at this level indefinitely).
It's why we can forget things or just outright miss certain things that are right in front of us.
It's also how we can actively tune out sounds, colours etc, or how our brains get used to certain things (as at some point it become less 'important' and less novel to the mental process... there is no need to pay attention if it's commonplace).
In the opposite we can notice things we aren't really processing consciously or purposefully (this might even be down to how our brains work, as we in fact have two "brain processes" working in tandem, one being our consciousness and another being what is beneath it aka 'the unconscious/subconscious'... go read the multiple papers on this, it's really interesting and a little bit worrying).
Now imagine living without these filters, where every little blemish, miniscule sound... the saccades of peoples eyes, skin movement, rustling of leaves,bugs and so forth.. it would flat out drive us insane and in most cases would lead us to a swift death just based on 'fuel expenses'. ;D
The rest of your comment, about senseless people and money (i am kind of trying to expand on what you said)... the majority of people who gain massive fortunes simply have lessened ability for empathy in most cases (not saying they have none, even if those cases exist... just that 'lessened' is more common... and is apparently a natural advantage in most cases in terms of survival).
This lessened empathy is more often than not connected to "senselessness" that you mentioned as a lot of it comes down to empathy.. I.e you are going to be less bothered being in the way of someone else, or in some more extreme cases not going to be bothered by completely f***ing over someone else so you can advance.
It's why high functioning psychopaths are extremely successful in terms of business, flirting etc... as they simply do not care what the other person feels as they are more or less incapable of internalizing it without some form of rationalization (normal people emulate and internalize, i.e how would he/she feel, how would I feel etc).
It's also why certain cultures with tightly denser populations tend to have less empathic people as everyone is out to survive by all costs.. i.e empathy is a "weakness" and does not promote survival.
We are in fact being manipulated by everyone and everything, not all of it is nefarious... but a lot of it is. Saying our ancestors never had to deal with this is.. just wrong.
They had to deal with the exact same things we are but the difference is the scale of it (they were told when and where and how to think, just like us)...
We have gone from micro (small sample size of people) to the macro (global, massive size).
We have become less nomadic in general and with the rise of media (tv, internet socialmedia, cellphones etc) everything is basically a click away, and we in general do not have the mental faculties to compartmentalize or even fairly judge what we are ingesting from these sources (regardless of intelligence) as it's not a natural state for us to be in.
One way of coping with this is attaching yourself to an idea or a concept.... it's how idols, religions, cults etc are formed and are 'successful' (and why things like branding work at all).. this stretches as far as attaching yourself to something like "science" and "truth".... your brain will do anything to make sense of things regardless of what is true or not.
As for your comment about intelligence and questioning reality.... every single one of us questions reality in some form.
"Reality" is a construct or rationalization we have created, and it differs from each and everyone one of us (and none of us get it right, as we physically are unable to... but we try).
Everyone is out to protect the "self" in some way shape or form, some do this by praying to a deity... some do this by questioning said deity and the people who join the religion (some do this by creating said deity for self gain.... you get the point). It's also why you have certain people with the mindset of "everyone's and idiot but me" as that is the only way they can make sense of the world.
In all cases the important thing is to survive, that is what "intelligence" is for.
i.e intelligence is not a single thing... someone is not less intelligent for believing in a flying spaghetti monster if it's actually successful in terms of survival... regardless of how ridiculous and improbable it is (in this case it just means they are wrong about thinking such a thing can exist).
This expands to everything, be it finance, romance, games etc.... you can be highly successful in one or several areas as this is intelligence in some form.
What people get wrong almost all the time is that our brains (and in connection, "we") are some form of "truth engines"... we aren't, as we simply are "survival engines".
What most people argue for intelligence is the ability to be RIGHT about something, while people who are WRONG are less intelligent.... this is just not the case.
We have far less intelligent people who are able to discern "reality" far better than a lot of us.. this might even be down to their lack of intelligence as they are discarding a lot of useless cultural things or minute details that just doesn't matter (meanwhile we have far more intelligent people who can't tell the difference from a square and a circle as well, much less tying their shoelaces, but are able to calculate the size of the milky way... i know it's a silly and extreme example, but it's not far off from the 'truth' ).
Point is: while nice... intelligence is highly overrated and simply misunderstood.
That’s facts I do the same thing and I feel like if everyone refocused they would understand how powerful we really are Clark Kent and we don’t realize we are Superman . We could be far as fuck right now . But instead we are controlled and trapped because there are entity’s that know how much control they would lose if we did .
I’m 17 and i have so many things that I do i feel isn’t normal. I was diagnosed with ADD in 6th grade, after i had a concussion in a car wreck. Since then, I’ve been doing really strange things that frustrate me so much. Things like feeling overwhelming chronic guilt and shame for no reason at all. Or obsessing over something like a movie, show, or hobby for a couple of days and dropping it. Right now i’m stuck on Aladdin. I’ve watched it 5 times today, so it’s probably been around 15 times in the past few days. It’s all I can think about, and it’s calming. I also have a STRICT morning routine that I HAVE to finish or i can’t do anything. If anything interrupts it, it ruins my day or next couple days. I struggle very much in school. Sometimes I wonder if I have some learning problem, or it’s just me that is lazy and choosing not to learn. I’ll read, and read, and won’t remember what I did for the past 5 hours. I’ll also get obsessed with a celebrity, youtuber, or whoever and copy everything they do. I don’t know if its severe adhd, but i’m not in the place to be able to afford meds or therapy or even get checked for that matter. I’m so lost and I am going crazy in my head, and the fact that college is coming up and I need to figure out how i’m gonna make money is driving me crazy. 😞
YES - for me, as a 37 year old ADHD sufferer, I have found that my dexedrine is terrific for helping with my ability to focus / hyper-focus...but it wasn't until I began cultivating a daily mindfulness meditation practice (15-20 minutes a day) that I developed the ability to have / understand "meta-awareness." Now, I can choose where I spend / exert my focus once my meds kick in. Next goal - taper off my meds and hopefully not need my amphetamines anymore. It only takes 90 days to shrink the amygdala and implement a mindfulness practice. Life-changing type shit!
It's highly likely you aren't going to be able to go off the medication though. Those chemical imbalances in the brain won't go away just with meditation. I've found that TM has definitely helped with the focusing issue and dialing down the input overload.
Im 38 diagnosed with ADHD way back in 1994. It was a new thing back then. Ive done Ritalin, dexadrin and adderol. I went to rehab for abusing my speed pills back in 2002. They took away my stimulant drugs. The non stimulant drugs made me dizzy for some reason. Now i just self medicate with whiskey and pscho active drugs. Its kinda shitty but i guess im fine.??
I kinda think its all bullshit now just so big pharma and our great marxist democrat leaders can make big money and some of the mass population retarded. Lol
@@perhaps885 - it works! Start with the headspace app. I did an hour every morning for a month. HUGE benefits.
Can you recommend a book as to how to do this? I have a 10 yr old with adhd and i want to help him now so maybe life won't be so hard for him later.
There's a big difference between ADD and ADHD. I have the former-before they had a name for this-and got beat in school and at home many times. My report cards said I was always looking out the window, and not paying attention enough. One thing about ADD that is worse than ADHD is that the hyperactivity is all inside instead.
I was diagnosed as such myself at 7 years old. I don’t believe that I’m maladaptive; I believe that sitting in classroom, being made to pay attention to a subjects I had zero interest in; wasn’t necessarily a bad distraction. I would focus on the nature outside of the window and want to be outside. Because that is more natural for a child. I was going against the system at an early age. I was labeled with so many negative adjectives and was put on ritilan by my unassuming mother- suggested by school teachers and administrators. You can’t just pigeonhole a whole group of kids and expect them to turn out the exact same way.
I realized much later in life, that I learn far better on my own, being able to grasp information and retain it, without authoritative force. I notice this is the same way for my 9-year- old son who’s been labeled as having Asperger’s. He’s extremely intelligent and bored with curriculum he, I believe, finds boring and repetitive. I homeschool him now- he learns better at his own pace.
But unlike what my mom did to me, I will not put my highly sensitive and intuitive child on a pill. This is dangerous and unnatural.
Tl;dr- we neuro diverse people should be focused more on our gifts than our deficits. Just my thoughts.
For add there is definitely hyperactivity and it’s definitely internalized versus the other subtypes
Adhd totally worse
I absolutely hate that they changed it so that add doesn’t technically exist anymore . Because now people think add is the same as adhd . I could sit perfectly still in school. So it was just me being lazy
ADD is just adhd-I 😅
I was diagnosed in childhood, but I was taken off of meds when my family could no longer afford them. After that, my grades plummeted and my symptoms re-appeared worse than before. I didn’t get back on them until I was out of college. After I got back on them, it was like a nearsighted person putting on glasses for the first time. I thought I was going to cry. I could finally…function. After all those years. Sometimes I wonder that if I could have stayed on the treatment I needed, when I needed it, things might have been different.
What I was fortunate to have was parents who took ADHD seriously, who trusted medical facts, who didn’t give up on me, who held me accountable for things I could control, and helped me make peace with the things I couldn’t control.
Not every kid has that. When those support systems are not present (or they are present but dysfunctional) then the outcome is a lot more uncertain. I could have had parents who dismissed science, or fanatical Catholics/Christians, or essential oils people, or a whole litany of people who think they know better than trained professionals. I probably would never have made it out of my hometown. (In a sick way, sometimes I think that’s exactly what those kinds of people want…they are afraid their children will become too successful, because it will make them look bad by comparison. But I digress.)
It shouldn’t be remarkable that they believed basic medical facts that were presented to them in black and white, but…it’s more than some people can say. Two plus two is four. The sky is blue. ADHD is real, it exists, and it’s in the DSM. The fact that grown adults need basic facts about health and medicine explained to them is highly concerning.
I haven’t been diagnosed, but I could relate to a lot of what the doctor said. I had poor self esteem because I felt like I couldn’t get anything done, and that I was lucky to be working in the family business and couldn’t get fired. I knew what needed to get done but didn’t have the tools to get there. The clouds finally cleared more when I started freediving and journaling. It was being mindful of where my mind was at and what I wanted to get done that really helped. I review how I spend my time, and what I accomplish each day. A running check list is also a great tool for me, although sometimes overwhelming if I start forgetting to check it and it piles up.
I think everyone should learn how to handle themselves, and I really really hope more people start practicing mindfulness. Having applied it to myself and seeing the positive impact, I’m convinced that it would be a wonderful tool that improves individual lives which will eventually translate to improved communities and/or societies.
As a person who likely has ADD, I was listening, and very interested, then found the flashlight analogy spot on, then remembered I was supposed to order flashlights, then I opened up a second window to see if Costco had the 3 pack of Duracell flashlights back in stock....
Then you saw a TV for sale for only $499 and then contemplated buying it when you remembered your meats were in the freezer and had to be thawed out, but damn it, you don't want to go all the way to the kitchen now. You'll do it later.... Which is why you're eating frozen pizza now
@@MarketWizard546 lmao, yeah
That's called multitasking. :)
You don’t have ADHD if you could follow what she was saying.
@@MarketWizard546 Then you go to take a bite. Turns out the pizza is literally frozen because you forgot to put it in the oven which has been preheated for the last hour and is starting to smoke.
I think its funny as a person with ADHD im listening to her talk about this while im doing schoolwork, doing paperwork for my business, checking the trading post in the game I play, stopping to comment here.
The goal driven thing is so true.. My focus shifts everywhere dependent on what I'm thinking about at that exact moment. Welp, back to doing 5 other things.
Force yourself to do one thing. Again and again.
@@lukes5631 it bores me to the point where I feel physical restlessness or get unreasonably tired
@@dotquack1 Then your dopamine is screwed and you need a dopamine fast.
@@lukes5631 orrr myabe i have a serious form of ADD and stopped taking medication 8 years ago, and theres ways of doing it that have been researched and studied to help people like me more efficiently than just a "dopamine fast". its the need to do something else, not that something is just boring
@@dotquack1 ADHD isn't a real thing. It is a symptom of other underlying issues. You can't fix ADHD because the "ADHD" is the displayed behavior. It is not the root cause... but sure, the medical field loves to diagnose you as "attention deficit" and supply you with pharmaceuticals. That's a band aid solution.
You seem to also be identifying as your diagnosis. This, too, strengthens the hold on you.
I really think this is the best explanation of how to explain ADD to both patients and clinicians to ensure everyone understands and therefor has a clearer perspective on how to help someone/theirselves.
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I have twins with one has ADD other ADHD. I have to watch this video more than twice because there's so much information, my brain can't process, and my attention checks in and out...her voice is so soothing 😌
if you don't want your kids to have ADHD when their adults don't suppress their hyper energy by force or drugs, channel it into something healthy like sports or karate
@@DangerZone200 they hate sports, but we do hiking and they have special jumping shoes that they wear when we walk our dog at the park. Trust me I make them move and they love it. I also don't feed them processed foods.
I don’t know why but I feel my ADD makes me way more creative and able to solve problems in unconventional ways.
Sure
There was a study done in 2020 that indicates a correlation between ADHD symptoms and divergent thinking, also the quantity of creative achievements.
Your imaginary condition?
@@shoutatthesky no
@@flavioa6351 sure
Joe, your conversations with these amazing guest are so well put together. The content is helping so many people in sense of being able to think freely. Thank you for your podcast. I didn't catch her name but this psychologist was interesting to listen to.
Amishi Jha, university of Miami
For my entire school life up until grade 10, I would be called in for a parent teacher meeting only for my teacher to complain about how hard it was teaching me and how i was never willing to learn. Many of them suggested moving me to a special school. My mom would tell me to do something for her multiple times before i even really picked up that she needed me to do something. I would simply acknowledge her without really knowing i did then denying she said anything. Eventually my middle schools special ed program gave me a test to determine if i had a learning problem in which i tested above average. We finally made the trip to a specialist which gave me the confirmed diagnosis, they ended up putting me on several test medications such as Concerta, Ritalin and the more popular drug Adderall. I would take the medication once daily as recommended and at first it really did work. I no longer goofed off as hard during class, i started doing my homework and overall took school more seriously. However, the medication started toying with my mental state quite heavily. I felt severe mood swings and a total switch of what my personality used to be. They led me to stop the medication overall. At the time of stopping my few good habits that i had in my life really picked up such as Reading, Playing the piano, and Working out. This overall gave a me a natural way to keep my brain focused onto one thing which helped tame my symptoms by quite a lot. Going into grade 11 I was off medication, had plenty of great habits that helped with my focus and gave me a great sense of clarity. I finished up Grade 11 with mostly straight Bs which were the highest marks id seen all my life. In grade 12 i received an Honour roll certificate and had all As. This was my story, thanks for reading(:
I got diagnosed when I was in grade school and was allotted extra time for assignments and tests but it never fixed the root of the problem. I continued to struggle academically through middle school then during high school I got prescribed concerta and I found the drive to get better grades. Now I’m in an associates degrees medical program but I continue to struggle prioritizing my time and staying on task.
Huge missed opportunity by Joe to not go at the end of the segment like "Sorry, I wasn't listening."
Or, have you tried to treat it with dmt and ivermectin?
So relatable
Pretty sure all he heard was “flashlight…flashlight….floodlight…juggling? Someone’s juggling I have no idea what she’s talking about”
Joe's not really funny on the spot ever is he?
BOOM!
My oldest son has ADHD but I recognized early he had a strong entrepreneurial spirit. I pulled him in 7th grade to partially homeschool. I never allowed him to be medicated. He’s now 16 and has a growing, built from the ground up, business which I suspect 6-12 months from now will be making him an actual living wage (he already replaced his full time minimum wage job and quit a few months ago to focus on growing his business). He’s not easy to raise and direct in terms of classes and chores and staying organized. But he’s hyper focused on his business and seems to intuitively know how to grow it, etc. He’s dual enrolled in college classes but I don’t see him going on to get his bachelors. Not unless he ever decides he has a damn good reason to. He really doesn’t like school.
That’s fuckin dope man. No surprise about school, school is the antithesis of what someone with ADD/ADHD is looking for
Ur a good parent
My brother and I were similar and did similarly. Both very successful in our field now in our twenties. We also did dual enrollment and are from Florida 😄
God Bless you & your son!!!! ✨💛✨ I wish that my mother would have done this for me.
You are awesome!!!!
@Ryan Thayer Sounds like its working out for him, though.
I have been diagnosed w both,and I just finished writing,self-publishing and getting to market my 1st book,and I did it in only 6 months time.The only downside to having such mindsets is getting frustrated bc everything feels like it is taking too long to happen,as well molehills always appear as mountains.What's beautiful is looking back on everything,you see the journey,the path that was created and you react with peace and a genuine sense of accomplishment.After writing over 500 songs in different styles and letting notebooks worth of other written material lay around for years,I have just ONE album and just ONE book completed.I'm living the ADD/ADHD dream,lol.
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I was not diagnosed until I was 35. getting the help I needed and the meds not only saved my job but also my life.
It is impossible to explain; the best way I can is my head at times feels like a strainer/sieve, and my thoughts are marbles; the sieve is swirling around, so the marbles are all bouncing around, now you see a marble you like, and you want to grab, but you only have chopsticks so it's hard so you keep losing it among all the other marbles, but then you finally see it, and you try to grab it but every time you get close to catching one it somehow leaks through the hole, and you never see it again so you are confused and then move on to try and grab another.
Holy cow, this really speaks to me. Keep up the great, meaningful conversations, Joe. We all appreciate it.
I was diagnosed as a child with ADHD and prescribed Ritalin, ADD is a curse, you never remember someone’s name immediately after they tell you, traditional learning is very difficult, your mind always wanders somewhere else, especially when reading. What angers me is the trendy self diagnosis by narcissists to explain their behavior, nobody calls themself a narcissist but ADD is acceptable, they have none of these issues they just aren’t interested in anyone but themselves and dismiss everyone. I’d rather have my curse then theirs, at least I can feel empathy, if these people truly knew what ADD feels like they would never brag about it, I have learned to live normally, they will always be narcissists, narcissism seems to be the fastest growing mental problem in the country, and social media has put it on steroids
I have ADD and experience these problems too. But forgetting somone's name is something that happens to everyone
I was diagnosed with ADD when I was younger and later developed MDD. I used to get mad at people who self diagnose or make jokes about how they are depressed when really they are just upset sometimes. Idk if they are full on narcissist but it is ridiculous that people do that but it’s best just to ignore it and focus on how to make your life best and deal with your own personal disorder.
it's a lack of oxygen to the brain and body, doc. Ozone therapy is the answer. Clears brain fog, heals cells from the mitochondrial level.
I’m glad we can talk about this as a society. The country my family is from is so poor and far down maslow’s hierarchy of needs that mental health issues like narcissism are never even discussed.
Dang bro now I don't know whether I have adhd or narcissism
I was diagnosed with adhd as a kid and i remember not wanting to take my medication or just denying that it affected me in any way but as a 21 year old adult I now realize how bad it is. It seems like I can only hold momentum for so long before the fire dies and I have to take a break to recharge which could be like a week doing nothing after spending 1-2 months of hard grinding. I have trouble sleeping most the time and my mind thinks of things I don’t want to think about because they stress me out and I can’t stop it. I’m constantly restless and have trouble just sitting their with myself and I constantly run to nicotine and weed to deal with it. I have so much anxiety from just constantly thinking and not being able to turn it off. I have to use like 100% of my brain power to properly focus on anything otherwise I only half focus. I’ve managed to do alot still I’ve just graduated last year and I work a lot and go to the gym but I constantly deal with these issues while I workout, or while I work, or while I try to sleep. It makes consistency pretty hard and I can’t keep a job for many months usually I just start to hate my job once I’ve been there long enough. It’s because I spend so much brain energy trying to keep all these issues under control while I’m under stress at work and by a month or two or so it’s really hard to keep that strength in your mind and that mentality. There was one year in my life before where I had alot of counselling and under my medication and I did super amazing and I just want to feel that way again. My mind was under control nothing running around uncontrolled and it was like that flashlight could be focused on one thing at a time instead of noticing everything and thinking about my whole environment like the example she gave with the broad flashlight. It seems like I have to use 100% of my brain to use the regular flashlight and focus on one thing at a time. I’m going to be seeking to be back on my meds but it’s definetly hard. Especially when you have bad habits that go along with it to try and cope.
You hit all the nails on the head , so hard. Felt every sentence of this. Such a struggle and it hurts when those closest get frustrated with you for it bc you’re already frustrated , you live with it. 25/8. Never ending thought vortex hell / half focus on autopilot until I manually turn on the flashlight
With certain motivations or stimulation (mine was mostly fear) I found that the symptoms of ADD can impact quality of life less. But once the motivating factors are no longer present or maybe change the symptoms can revert or begin to affect your quality and experience of life. It can affect your mindfulness.
This is another thing. Throughout my life dealing with certain psychological issues; whether it was my approach to them, my awareness of them, or certain other factors, they can completely change the way my ADD has affected me i.e. The more personal and emotional challenges I have faced from external forces, my awareness, motivations and approach to dealing with them has changed or rather, has been affected.
The brain unfortunately does not just learn one way of strategic coping and then forever stick to it. Your brain is constantly developing, changing, growing, accumulating, based on new information and stimuli etc...
When you have other psychological issues on top of ADD (i.e. Complex PTSD and/or BPD) it's even more difficult to regulate and maintain coping strategies because you are even more prone to affective environmental factors, your perception and emotional regulation is challenged even more.
I have come to the point in my life let's say that my ADD is becoming crippling. It's becoming embarrassing and stressful where once it felt more under control. My mindfulness as this lady put it has been constantly affected by my other psychological issues.
I am not a psychologist, I have never been diagnosed with ADD by one either but I know it is there and always has been. It's only really in the last few years that I have noticed it has become a more centrally disabling factor in my life.
It is very real though.
I'm really glad that there are people like Joe Rogan who can keep an open mind enough to try and explore and learn about stigmatising mental health issues.
i love how Rogan is still uploading every week. One day im going to miss Joe 😢
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I love the flashlight food light analogy, so true. Diagnosed at 46, spent a life time detached, feeling on the outside, no one understands me, irrational thoughts, anxiety and depression and always found juggling those balls pushed me to the max. That floodlight is wide open, and the internal dialogue that provides a constant stream of narrative inside your mind is overwhelming. It doesn’t switch off and it produces a constant underlying anxiety due to the repetition and negative connotation. There is no clear definition between positive, focused thoughts and negative, destructive dialogue that comes from assessing every situation. It was only when I started taking medication that this internal dialogue switched off, and allowed my brain some peace. Since this, I have very little anxiety and depression, can focus more on day to day tasks and have more motivation to get up and do things without the flood light going into over drive. It’s a mentally demoralizing situation to be in and a constant internal battle that most people wouldn’t be aware of.
I'm 18 and got diagnosed a couple months back and am so excited to try therapy and medication. I'm in desperate need for someone or something to help me with this burden.
Thanks for sharing. I live in CO and cannabis is a god-send. I vape indica everyday and I am good. Spent decades on drugs/alcohol. Ugh.
Mindfulness helps train attention to switch between sensation and thinking modes of mind. You get relief from that internal chatter. And to change your relationship to it
While watching the podcast, I was really interested in it. But got distracted and had to replay and I am pretty sure I’ll have to do it again a few more times to watch it completely haha
I’ve watched this probably 10 times now. I zone out every time. Why am I like this
I definitely have ADHD as I lost interest 2 minutes into this. And she’s very intelligent. I wanted to hear what she’s saying but I could only get through the first two minutes before I realized my mind started drifting onto other things.
Hahahaha hell yes. I'm not alone!
“i definitely have adhd”
are you even diagnosed 😂
ADHD-PI here-didn't even make it 45 seconds before itching to hit watch later button lol
to be fair, she gave a very convoluted answer to a simple question asked by Joe. When Joe talks I can easily focus and pay attention to what he's saying, when she talks I drift off and get bored. Do I have ADHD or is she just boring and uncaptivating?
Lol same
Very eye opening thank you! Im 28 and ADD has been a struggle my whole life. But the more I understand about it the easier it is for me to manage.
I tend to hyper focus on specific things or thoughts.
The problem is that I tend to miss all the rest of the information around me. Sometimes people even get offended too which has got me in into trouble a few times.
Mindfulness is now my best tool for keeping my mind on the now and I'm getting better at it every day
Ok hi ! I’m a massage therapist that’s just gotten screened for ADHD / ADD , it makes like 14 different sub boxes that you want to say all at once.
It’s a lack of getting out of you’re own way. Joe you have gone through the ego death ! You’re doing great brotha! It’s from being raised by screaming animals that have narcissistic abusers from their past.
Also from seeing my siblings have learning disabilities.
I was on Ritalin from age 4 to age 20 and it is such a difficult drug to be on without meta awareness. I found myself in high school writing pages of stories and making art (which I admit helped me later as an artist) but my flash light was so focused on one thing I wish people wouldn’t have overmedicated me and taught me more mindfulness of where my hyper focus should have gone. Love this guest.
Love you joe. You can open up and connect to so many different outlooks. It's refreshing AF. Thanks a bunch you mean alot in my life
This is one of, if not, the most valuable videos I have ever watched. I wish I could personally thank Amishi for introducing this way of managing my thoughts.
she’s so smart in the way the explicates all of it
Her voice and speech are both so reassuring and relaxing.
ADD is totally real. I spent 39 years of my life wrestling with those demons. Decades of mindfulness and meditation helped me to cope with it. It wasn't until I finally gave into the idea of diagnosis (I was afraid of the stigma that such a lable can give to a person), and took my first pill when I realized that my life did not have to be anywhere near as hard as it was. ADD is a bitch, and it has ruined my life in several ways. Thankfully, I have finally been given a chance to take my life back!
This exactly!!! I’m 24 so not as long as you but I’ve done or used literally every helpful tool you could imagine for add/adhd. From “dopamine detox” for months on end to meditating for an hour everyday. I kind of found it annoying how people like (and I like joe don’t get my wrong) Joe kind of hinted like “oh can’t they just meditate and stop looking for handouts with the drugs they’re given”. Fuck that, why do we have to work our whole day around being baseline functional with all these practices when others don’t?
The meds work for 5-8 years good luck after they fry ur insides, take it from someone whose been on the meds since 19 it gave me a degree. But not much else.
i am 47 and finally was diagnosed with ADHD. I could have been in honors but was average because of ADHD. I had 28 jobs and 10 years and ended up on disability due to a misdiagnosis. For the first time ever I feel like I can get my life straight. So the try harder thing may apply to some but for me trying harder became debilitating.
What kind of meds have helped you?
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this is literally the best definition of ADHD i’ve ever heard. if clinicians could diagnose based on this definition, it would save many of the adhd sufferers the years of struggle not knowing what is wrong with you because “everyone has trouble with attention”
I think Russell Barkley has her beat tbh
Isn't this about ADD, not ADHD?
@@westonadams7135 ADD is a type of ADHD, they are not different conditions
@@cowmoo5596 add is no longer used
I’ve been diagnosed and taking meds since I was like 5. It’s not exactly being distracted but having the inability to be productive, fast thinking, disciplined, and just any sort of efficient outcome. Thinking is like swimming against a tide, the harder to try to focus and to be better the further off you fade. Nootropics counter that where you can be efficient, it’s not a mind over matter thing I’m 18 right now and I’m no psychologist but I’m only assuming that the only way you can be good at what you do is if you very deeply and thoroughly enjoy it for fun, and doing it isn’t discipline but natural. Like something you think is so fun and easy you can do it in your sleep sort of thing. I think it’s deeper and more complicated than just self-actualization, I believe it is possible where you yourself can counter these effects for all things you do, but it takes insane psychological intelligence/skill and most people can’t.
Wonderful description❤
Exactly how it feels
I would love to see Joe get on an ADHD specialist, ideally a neuroscientist but a phycologist would also be fine.
He had one on. Andrew Huberman. Though they didn't specifically talk about ADHD, you can watch an entire episode he (Andrew) dedicated to ADHD. It's on YT.
@@jesperburns I just recently watched it. All of his podcasts are good
Yes I agree, this is almost a bs theory to try and make people focus better. We need an actual specialist, who understands what is causing this issues with lack of dopamine and neurotransmitters issues. Is she trying to sell something? 🤔 is she going to tell people who need glasses just try and look a look a little closer.
@@sj8099 I agree it wasn’t explained fully however meditation is known to help people with ADHD which is what she is basically saying
@@dannyjohnson8051 The reason I'm a little irritated is because when joe asked is adhd real she goes on about how mindfulness is a effective treatment which strengthens the belief adhd is not a serious condition. yeah mindfulness can help people however the issues are not because the person isn't calm. For instance give a hyper child a normal level of dopamine via medication, the symptoms from the lack of immediately disappear. You can't treat a lack of dopamine via just mindfulness it has little effect on the mind when the issues it much deeper than just behaviour and thought.
I learned this about attention since I was 14 during a Buddhist meditation class. I'm so glad I learned it from a young age because it shifted how I view reality completely.
Exactly! I relate to this so much, that's basically my whole life all summed up in a few sentences. That's exactly what it feels like. Not being on the same page, feeling disconnected, stuck and alive but not really living. Always as far as I remember this has been just so.
I have ADD, and and had big depressions aswell.. but i have to say that with a little find fullness trick i learned to not be depressed as much. I have exepted that i am different in the way i think. like thinking all the time about EVERYTHING but, i can advise you to write down the negative thoughts in your head. like: i am stuck in this stupid world. and then think of an positive opposite, like: i am awesome and i am here to make this world a better place. even if it sounds totally unbelevable just write that down 20 times underneath the first sentence. so next time that negative thought will pop in your head u will think also about the positive thing u wrote down. it sounds so stupid bit this slowly started changing my life, and the way i think about myself. i accept who i am and actually think ADD/ADHD people are often a lot smarter then normal people, but just completly misunderstood by the schooling systems.. beleive me the world has a lot to learn from people like us. and for completing tasks and getting motivation to do things i can advise you to either find someone who wants to do it with you so u feel motivated because ur not alone in that situation and u can ask him or her to help u to keep your attention and not talk about other things then the task. if you cant find annyone for that u can try and make a challenge for yourself, maybe like for cleaning the house u say u are going to do it in one hour, then u set the timer and go try and do in in that time. if u dont finnish just accept your loss and go do something else and u might want to add 15 minutes next time. it can make it more fun to do, and it helps with the dopamine problem we have.
sorry for the bad spelling and the long text, just wanted to share this with who ever needs it.
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I am 39 and was just diagnosed with ADD. Its been so difficult to understand it as I never had it explained to me. So I've been reading, watching videos, etc to understand it. She explains it so well!! I am just starting medication while waiting for a spot to open up with a counselor who specialized with ADD and executive functioning.
Hey man have you looked into meditation I have heard this really helps I'm looking in to it for my self but have not been disciplined enough
This was very interesting to listen to, she is quite a smart lady with great communication skills
This is the best explanation I've ever seen.
As a Marine with ADHD I owe my survival to it. In Fallujah I could see and focus on so many things at 1 time that even the best of my fellow Marines wouldn't see. It was a curse in School when young but if you imbrace it and use it properly, control and channel it, then ADHD is a godsend. I finished a Bio Informatics degree and Bio Chem Degree in 3 years taking 20-28 credit hours per week. Used them to get in a FMAT program at Baylor and am finishing my last year of required residency for my MD. Took me 6 years total..... Only negative issues my ADHD caused me in adulthood was finding a woman that could keep up with me.....
Congrats man. I'm in undergrad at Baylor and can identify with just how difficult it is in school, so it's awesome to hear that you're killing it particularly at BCOM!
Everything was great till that cringe flex in your last statement. Did we really need to know that? Lol
Someone mentioned hyperfocusing and it can be extremely useful or extremely destructive. I liked Amishi's point of continuously checking in on oneself because I'll catch myself hyperfocusing on the wrong things
hyperfocus is proven to be bullshit. Adhd isnt a benefit in any way.
@@ElevatedLevetator disagree. I took training as a child and had several ADD. Not ADHD, ADD. After training, I took my multitrack mind, and got it to cross the streams, and now they synergies toward a goal. I'll absolutely smoke you and anybody if I'm tasked to do what you do. It's absolutely an advantage to be able to think ten fold out beyond normal thought process, once trained.
@@caiusmadison2996 i have adhd too, I Know what you mean. But in my expirince thats just forming yourself.intensely for a short amoumt of time.
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I've been hyperfocused on what's this whole covid shit is really about. How event 201 was done the month before and how deagles world gdp/population model 2017-2025 showed huge drops in gdp and population in Western countries
I Was diagnosed with add as kid definitely could not focus on anything I was not interested in. But I definitely agree with her I’ve learned that threw the years just being aware of the way my mind works and researching tools has been a tremendous help,and using the advantages and being aware of the obstacles and learning and developing tools to help the process of growth 💯
She shared this information beautifully. So thankful.
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