Universal Audio Apollo & Console 2.0 for Logic and Pro Tools - Getting Started - I/O, Cues, Routing
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- This tutorial takes you through all the steps to maximize your UA Apollo and the Console 2.0 software. Learn how to setup and use virtual channels, how to customize your I/O, and how to get everything to properly sync with your DAW.
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Thanx a lot for your answer and sorry if I sounded too rude...it is just really frustrating when after hours things still don't work. Thank you !
@@JC-lb2mg I didn't find it rude :) , I create these videos to help people. So just hoping in the long run you can find some value in the content. Hopefully after exploring some of the earlier videos from me and UA, coming back to this one will help to put a nice workflow in perspective for you.
Thanks, I realize my setup can be clearly optimized! Can’t wait to reopen PT this we!
Hi Todd,
This is a very well orchestrated instructional video to which I thank you.
This brief video effectively bridged a lot of gaps for me regarding the integration of the UA Console, Hardware and DAW(s).
Kudo’s to the team for pulling this all together without the cheekiness we find so prevalent in many of these type of videos.
Delivery was Kind, articulate and substantive. The Platinum Standard ! A Real One. The goal is never be constrained by technology but to leverage the tools to put something pleasing between the speakers and into the domes of our beloved listener.
Hard to be creative if you’re locked up in a technical cell !
I also don’t understand why those seeking knowledge bash others who are trying to assist.
If you have nothing of value to contribute then hit the mute button and move on and find what works for you.
Toxicity has no place in creating anything of value.
Let’s all be on our best behavior, I understand the frustration but please everyone have some social resolved and ask oneself how would you feel if someone bashed you.
Let’s Make Some Music Y’All and kill the noise !
So glad the content helped and thank you for sharing the kind words. ❤️
Thank you so much. You just save my second day after spending a day figuring out how to assign my DAW to virtual channels. It worked perfectly just by following your precise step by step guide. Please accept my sincere thank you!
Great! Glad that this helped. 😃
This is easily the most important reference video in my collection; thank you!
Great! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching and helping to support the channel. 🙏🏻
Thank god I found your channel! Easily the Best and most informative info on the Apollo out there. Love your delivery brother.
I appreciate that and am glad it helped out!
This is the best UAD Console tutorial I came across. You just earned one additional subscriber.
Thank you! 😊
I've been searching FOREVER to figure out an issue I had with routing and your video was so helpful. Keep up the good work!
Glad it helped! Now I need a country guitar recording tutorial too! 😉
Thank you very much for helping me figure out the I/O configurations for both.. and helping me link everything I needed to for this all to make some sense, sir. New sub
Excellent. Glad to hear this helped. 😃
I'm so thankful this video exists, I haven't seen anything in the UA documentation about the routing settings that the computer needs to run audio out through the console. Was banging my head against the desk for ages
Happy to hear it helped!
I recently purchased the Apollo X4. There is a lot to learn. Man, I’m glad I found you. As one of the viewed stated in a comment , you are the best video on this subject. 👊😎
Thank you Allan! Glad to be of help! More content on its way soon!
Such an informative and easy to follow video! This helped me a lot - thank you!
Great! Glad to hear that!
This is the best video on the internet explaining this stuff. Excellent! Covers both simple and more complex layouts and guaranteed to fill in a few gaps that you didn’t know about how this software works. Thanks 🏆
Glad it helped. Make sure to also check out my new video that covers the new UAD Console interface. There are some additional pointers there.
Thank you so much for explaining how inserts for individual channels can be toggled for printing or monitoring independent of the global UAD Rec and UAD Mon buttons!! And I was always mystified what the "Virtual" channels were for in Console, until your wonderful detailed demonstration. I can now take Console to a whole new level thanks to you!
Great. Glad it helped. Enjoy!
Very good indeed, if only the world operated with plain talking, efficient people such as you 😊 kindest regards from London 🇬🇧
Thank you. I made a decision a while back that I would not turn toward influencer style content and instead focus on what people really need. (Direct communication on important details) I appreciate you noticing. 😃
This was SO helpful. I hope UA paid you for this. I have used it 4+ times so far to try to understand their mysterious workflow. Thanks you so much!
Great! Glad it helped! No…. I do this more to help the community, not as someone who works for UA. But thanks for supporting the channel. 😃
This is really amazing!! Subscribed!!🙌🏻Thank you for such an informative video!!
Glad it helped. Thank you!
I absolutely thank you for this tutorial. I shall use it myself as needed since upgrading to Apollo x4 and many years away from the industry. Also will have assistants consider much of this LAW, so thank you kindly. That said, I sure wish we could skip the background music. The hard thing about learning and thinking with music playing is that every type of beat doesn't work with every learner. This beat is nice. It's just bad for me when I am focusing. Not a dis. Not at all. Just something to ponder as my background includes teaching and helping others to use sounds to calm, relax or study, etc. Thank you again. I do appreciate the vids you put together! Carry on!
Fair point. ;) Thanks for watching and glad it helped!
I just bought a Neve RNHP headphone amp and could not figure out how to add it to my UAD interface. I found your video and was able to get it to work!. Thank you very much for making such a great videos!. I will watch ALL your videos, you are awsome!.
Awesome. It’s an amazing headphone amp! Glad to help. 😃
Thank you. This helps me a lot. Great and easy to understand !
Great! 😀 Glad it helped!
Just picked up the x4 yesterday. This was a very informative video. Thank you! (subscribed)
Great! Thank you!
Very good overview thanks
Very much appreciated Todd!
Thanks for watching Rick! 🙏🏻
Suuuper clean and Easy to understand. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for watching! 🙏🏻
This was massively helpful
Great to hear that. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
IM LESS THAN 2 MINUTES IN AND I have learned more from you than the ENTIRE UA video on the product.. YOU BETTER be getting paid from UA... There video left me REALLY sad that I made the purchase.. Thanks for the hlep..
Thank you. Nope, I do this to give back to the community. Not paid for this one. But super happy to hear it helped! 😃
very helpful. thank you so much!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
SO helpful… Thank you!!
Great! Thanks for watching. 😃
Very good. Thanks!
Thank you! 😃
thanks for this! It'd be great to see you doing more complex routing with the Console.
More complex….well, there are some cool live and remix type routings you can do. But typically in the studio I keep it simple. Virtual ins for my DAW, headphone cue mixes, and a little reverb for the artist.
@@ToddUrban how would I do if wanted to send (from PT ot Ableton) to a UAD reverb/delay and then record that in my DAW? Not sure of how to do this without having to physically patch an output of my Apollo x8 to a line input
@@ouvi Why don't you just use the reverb as an insert in your DAW and then commit it? You can even automate that reverb if you were looking for more control. But I don't see a point in running out of the DAW to a reverb in Console and then back to your DAW.
@@ToddUrban really apreciate your feedback Todd! My initial thought and intention was to utilize the UAD plugins through Console to save processing power by utilizng the UAD DSP and not my Macbook’s processor
It will still use the UAD chip if you insert it in your DAW.
Nice overview of console.
Thank you. 🙏🏻
@@ToddUrban Never could figure out how to display the virtual channels. LOL
@@masterstacker2833 Console 2.0 will display the virtual channels based on how many you have setup in your settings. My guess is that you do not have them setup (since you can pick between the balance of virtual channels and DSP pairings). The other possibility is that you have them hidden in the menu. Double check there. Also, make sure you have the screen maximized, as they can hide to the right side if you are using something with lots of channels such as an X16
@@ToddUrban I got a session set up as I like it on my Apollo X6. Was able to hide the SPDIF/Optical channels. Show virtual + aux. Looks great.
Hi Todd. Always come back to this for a refresh! Also have a question regarding patch bays. Just picked up a Samson S patch plus to join up my outboard with my Apollo and Logic. Do you have any videos on the subject? If not I'm fast approaching paying for some help if you have knowledge on that specific subject! Thanks.
I don’t have any videos at the moment. But the routing is similar to my analog summing video. Make sure to check that out. A lot of this depends on which Apollo you have in terms of how to set it up. Also, make sure to really understand how to use a patch bay. Why do you want it? Do you want the connections normalled? Do you understand how this will affect your mixes moving forward?
Anyway, hope some of those ideas help. I have the Samsons at the school where I teach and they are solid. So they should work fine for you!
Brilliant video - thanks! Had hoped you’d also show the Ableton Live setup, as this confuses me. I am hooking up some outboard gear on a X6 but it runs hot into feedback.
I’ll definitely do a Live setup video at some point. For now, have you checked out the one on the UA site? It is pretty easy to follow.
Thanks for the video, Todd! You mentioned that you have another video on setting up a Hearback Octo system with an Apollo, but I couldn't find it on your page. Is it still available?
Hi. Yes, it was an older video, so I made it unlisted. But the content is still good, but not too engaging….
Please see the link below and that should help. 😃
Hear Back OCTO and Universal Audio Apollo Tutorial and Review
th-cam.com/video/HyGBn_XmTcs/w-d-xo.html
Subbed. GREAT and helpful video thank you so much although I thought I followed the steps properly but cant see the audio being routed to my creation of a Virtual X6 DAW fader. I believe I did everything correctly but the daw output from Logic still comes through the virtual X6 CPU fader ( even though my Logic I/O outputs appear to be correct.) Stumped.
Sounds like they are routed to the incorrect spot. Try switching them and see if it comes out elsewhere.
Best video I’ve seen! Some of these basics I had to learn the hard way on my Apollo x4. You make it clear how to control the output Cue mixes to HP1 and HP2, but how do you control the output to the Line 1/2 and Line 3/r jacks on the back?
Thanks for the kind comment! In regards to the outputs on the back, you can use your cue mixes to send to outputs. Just go to cue outputs on the bottom right and have them route to physical outputs instead of your Headphones. Hope that helps!
@@ToddUrban Line 1/2 and Line 3/4 were grayed out and couldn't be assigned to the Cue mix destinations. Then I found this reason.... "" 3. ALT Monitoring
When ALT Monitoring is enabled, the first four line outputs of your Apollo will automatically become grayed out and unavailable for routing from within the DAW - when enabled, these outputs are used as alternate monitoring paths. To disable ALT Monitoring, navigate to Console > Settings > Hardware and set ALT COUNT to "0" (having ALT COUNT set to "1" makes Line Outputs 1/2 unavailable, having ALT COUNT set to "2" makes Line Outputs 1-4 unavailable).""
Exactly. Alt monitors will take the place of those outputs (since they are being used) Glad you figured it out!
@@ToddUrban Can’t thank you enough - I’ve shared this video with all my UA Apollo friends. I’m managing the Cue mixes for 4 different outputs {2 independent headphone mixes} on the x4 and the 2nd and 3nd output pairs on the back. What I’m missing is control of the master volume of Cues 1 to 4 in Console. In Logic, no problem as each cue mix has a master. Am I missing something obvious?
Great to hear. There is not a cue master, but instead just the individual sends to cues and then the cues assign either to a Heaphone output or a physical line output. Yeah, a master cue would be nice, but I’ve never clipped those, so I guess it isn’t necessary.
How do I get to the screen that is at 5:20? Also, you earned a new subscriber!!! Again that video showing the creation of a four track song within logic would be so helpful!!
Go to your inspector (magnifying glass on the top right of your desktop) and type Audio MIDI. It should pop up there without a problem. Yes, I'd love to do the 4 track song creation. I have a few other things in the works, so thanks for subscribing and keep posted! :)
@@ToddUrban thank you so much! Your video is the first in my TH-cam “Logic and Apollo Lifeline” list!!
Great video - I'm having a hard time getting rid of double monitoring of the DAW (PT in my case) in the Console Virtual 1-2 channels. When a track is armed in PT, it's also going through the Virtual Channels (because it's going to the MASTER channel in PT) AND the UA Console. This makes the Low Latency completely useless in PT. I didn't have this on my older machine (running same version of PT). You mention a Hearback system video in this video - but I can't find it in your video list. Can you direct me there? Thanks much!
In PT you will either need to mute the track while recording, or when it is record armed, you can pull down the red record fader and leave the mix level one at full volume. (There is a setting you need to change in your settings to have the record fader decoupled)
Here is the hearback video. Thanks for watching.
Hear Back OCTO and Universal Audio Apollo Tutorial and Review
th-cam.com/video/HyGBn_XmTcs/w-d-xo.html
That would be great if you could just do a short and simple tutorial about how to use efficiently the UAD console with Logic. For instance after having set everything up (thanks about this) I have not been able to find a single video showing how to record a midi sequence in audio using UAD plugins. Is it also possible to send two different tracks in Logic (for instance two audio or midi signal) in two different tracks in the UAD console?
I think part of the problem as I read through your comment is that you are expecting Console to do more than it is intended to do. It basically has 2 functions. The first is to setup your preamps or insert plug-ins on the way into your DAW. The other is to setup monitoring. From what I'm hearing you ask, it sounds like you are thinking Console 2.0 is more about mixing. You also mention a MIDI sequence, and unless you are using external MIDI hardware, MIDI really doesn't come into play in Console.
So I think the answer you are looking for is that you need to learn to insert the plug-ins as inserts in your DAW so that you can process these channels. But maybe I misunderstood.
This tutorial is awesome! Please tell me where you are at 5:14 in this video. This is where I got lost. 🤪
Look up audio midi in your spotlight on the top right of your Mac. (The magnifying glass). That will bring you to the right application. 😃
Thanks for this. It was exactly what I needed to get started. I was right with you, then - at 5:14 - you jump to the "Audio/Midi setup" window. Where is this found? Console? Sys Pref? Logic? If you please Sir haha
Audio MIDI is a Mac application. You can go to the spotlight on the top right (magnifying glass) and type it in. You will find it there. 😉
Audio MIDI is a Mac application. You can go to the spotlight on the top right (magnifying glass) and type it in. You will find it there. 😉
@@ToddUrban Thank you Professor. I found it soon after I posted my question. I'm an experienced Logic User who had been using an Apogee Duet ...In one leap, I moved up in machine, OS and interface....feeling a little clumsy haha
You’ll get it! It just takes some time. 😃
Thank you very much! This video is very well done. I am coming from the RME world. On x8p, How do I change the volume of the Entire Cue Mix 1 (2 or 3 or 4) from Console App and Mute the entire cue if required?
P.S. The only workaround I know on a Mac is to go to Cue 1 and while holding Option, press mute on any channel or move a fader to bring the entire mix down. This would be so much easier if there was a Cue Fader w Mute/ Solo.
I’m not sure there is a way. There isn’t a cue master fader. However, the cues are typically feeding the headphone amps on the apollo or being routed to an external amp, so usually I’ll have the artist adjust the full cue level from these physical knobs. A master control would be a nice addition.
@@ToddUrban Thank you for answering. I hope you have experienced the ease and flexibility of RME Total Mix. I highly recommend it.
I am also very confused about changing the levels of the 1-8 Line Outputs on my x8p through UAD Console. Is this even possible? Or does one change it only through CUE 1-4 mixes mirrored to Line Outs? Thank you again.
@sarinsahil you can send the cues to physical outs. However you can also set your DAW to physical outputs for something like summing.
@@ToddUrban Thank you Todd! I'm very grateful for the info :)
Your video was SUPER helpful, so THANK YOU! I was hoping you could help me out as something seems slightly off even though I thought I followed your directions to the T... I have an Apollo x4 and Logic Pro and named the virtual outputs in Console the same way you did. Did the steps in Logic Pro you suggested, but if I go in Logic Pro to Settings > Audio > I/O Assignments > Output, it lists the output as "Virtual 3/4" instead of the "x4 DAW" title I gave in Console, and if I click on the output button/selector of any of the tracks in Logic Pro, it lists them as "Stereo Output, Output 3-4 (Line 1/2), Output 5-6 (Line 3/4), ...... Output 11-12 (Virtual 3/4)..." instead of the names I entered in Console. Strange thing is all the inputs that I can select on the track in Logic Pro DO have the names I gave in Console. I thought I should be able to see "x4 DAW" listed as an output option instead of "Visual 3/4". In practice though, it seems to route things to the right place as I can hear everything correctly, but it's just bugging me that it's not showing up nicely the way yours did in the video.
Aside from that - once everything is working again - I should always have Logic Pro outputted to my virtual channel in Console? Is that a safe general assumption?
Thanks so much for any help!
I think maybe you are naming them under the console faders instead of in the Console I/O matrix. It is hard to say without seeing your session. I do offer help sessions, but you can probably figure it out if you keep playing around. But feel free to contact me on my site if you are still stuck.
@@ToddUrban thanks. I DID name the channels in the I/O matrix which is why it’s odd. I’ll keep trying but I’ll keep the option of a session in my back pocket. Thanks for the reply!
@@ToddUrban turns out I didn’t name the output channels in Console’s I/O. Since they are “Virtual Inputs” I didn’t think I needed to name the outputs, even though Logic is *outputting* to an input. But now that I did, all is good and labels appear as expected. Thank you!
Nice! You got it! 💥
Great video. Just wondered I've bought an Evo sp8, to give me 8 a/dat inputs. If I buy another sp8 can I double up, to give me 16 inputs or does console only give me the standard 8 additional a/dat inputs ?
I believe the correct answer is that you get 8 inputs at 44 or 48k, but 4 inputs above that sample rate.
Thanks man, thought that was the case@@ToddUrban
hi there is there any tutorials of the i/o matrix location for the apollo twin x, i can t found it thanks
I’m not sure. But essential it is the same as what I show here, but with less inputs and outputs, and less virtual channels.
Hello Todd, can you maybe help me? I have the Apollo Twin X and want to use it in Logic for mixing with headphones. Unfortunately I only get the sound via the monitors. How should I set up the console so that I can hear the sound through the headphones? Otherwise I don't use the console for mixing but only mix and master in Logic. Thanks!
It sounds like your routing in the cues isn’t correct. Go there and set the HP or cue 1 to main and it will monitor everything you hear in console.
I'm very new to UAD as in I just ordered the Apollo Twin and I use logic. Your video is excellent but I see UAD with the console app has a lot of options. All I want to be able to do is when I track vocals send the daw to my 4 channel headphone amp and be able to turn mic vocals up and down separately from the instrument track that is coming from the daw. On my ID 14, all I had to do was hit one button to switch between monitors and headphones. My plan is to use two TRS cables from line outputs 3 &4 from the Apollo twin to the inputs of my headphone amp or go from the headphone output on the Apollo to the inputs on the headphone amp. I heard you say you have a video explaining this but I can't find it. Please provide link, please and thank-you.
This video is old but still relevant. See if it helps!
Hear Back OCTO and Universal Audio Apollo Tutorial and Review
th-cam.com/video/HyGBn_XmTcs/w-d-xo.html
If you are still stuck, I do offer private sessions, but try this video first. 😃
@@ToddUrban ok ThankYou
In protools I/o do I have to leave inputs 1-2, outputs 1-2 and inserts 1-2 unused for the apollo X rack unit to use?
I’ve seen so many vids I’m getting some setup info confused, thanks
It depends on your setup. If you are using the monitor outs on the Apollo, yes, that would correspond to 1/2. I however, send everything out a separate output for analog summing and do not use the Apollo monitor outs. Make sure to open your Pro Tools settings and delete all of your output paths and then use the default ones. If you do, you will be able to have the labels in Pro Tools match that of whatever you set in your Apollo I/O settings.
Any idea Why in Logic trying to use a bus compr as a i/o but when I insert the Output..I can hear sound and compressor start working BUT when I inster the Input number to get the audio back a delay in the audio is happening even if I click the latency offset. why is that? can I just use the utpust and leave the inputs in blank???...seems like that is working fine..
Sorry. I am not sure exactly what you are asking. It sounds like a plug-in is giving you latency on the stereo output? If so, yes, this can be an issue with some product. Therefore, I will typically leave processing off of my master bus until I am done tracking. Hope that helps….
Why doesn't the sound from my browser go through the x4 CPU track? Spotify goes through the x4 CPU track by default, but TH-cam/browser goes through the monitor L/R. How can I change this?
Great video btw, it was really helpfull 🫶
It should! And it sounds like you have it setup properly if Spotify is going through. Try restarting your machine and see what happens. Sometimes I need a restart when either the Console app isn't connecting properly or my computer is acting wonky.
I do apologise if it's already been mentioned somewhere, I'm somewhat of a beginner with recording, but at around 11:05, where you shown the audio can go straight through to Logic. Does doing this mean you won't get the low latency of the Apollo doing the audio processing and it will instead go directly to logic and use the I/O buffer setting set on there?
No, what I am showing there is something totally different. You can either have your DAW go to a virtual channel or you can have it go to the main outputs of the Console app. Either way, you benefit from the low latency of recording with an Apollo, as that benefit is on the input side. At 11:05, I am talking about the output of the DAW. One caveat, be careful with putting any plug-ins on your master output (or stereo output) that might have large latency. This can cause an issue where there you think you are recording in time, but are actually late due to the latency. Hope that helps!
@@ToddUrban Brilliant! Really appreciate the informative response. That has helped a lot and I now understand. Great video and keep it up!
How can I route the windows main out to my virtual outputs 3/4 in the console when I am on the USB Version of the Apollo that doesn't feature the I/O Matrix?
Anyone? I’m not a windows user, so I’m not going to attempt to know.
i currently have the rack mount apollo X6 Heritage edition and i only see 2 unison channels and u have 4 on a x4 and i previously owned a twin X 2 core and saw the same thing... why do u have more unison pre amp channels...?
The X6 only has 2 unison inputs on the back. The x4 and x8 have 4 on the back. The x8p has 8 and the x16 has no unison inputs.
You made a quite good video about the audio interface with the worst and most confusing usability ever. I fail to do simple settings with the smallest Apollo because my console does not show the options you have. I'm not an audio pro, but also not a beginner and work in IT projectmanagement a long time, so I would state that the people responsible for this interface and usability are some of the most incompetent and untalented people around in the audio business, which meets also my really bad experience with the installation of this crapware on macOS.
Glad the video helped. Yes, it seems lots of people have difficulty with the interface. I will say that once you understand the routing, things are smooth sailing, so give it a chance, even if it doesn’t feel intuitive at first. I think it will pay off.
Hey Todd, I wish I could follow through with the video but my Console won’t display half of what you are accessing. It’s a maximizing issue where I can’t see the faders on the bottom, and the panel on the right. Do you have any tips? I use Windows 11
Try resizing your window. Different options have different looks based on the scaling of the window.
@@ToddUrban Thanks a lot man that really helped
Hi Todd, having trouble getting signals back from my mac and my DAW to Console. I followed the steps from 4:45-6:00 (multiple times) and am still only getting iTunes through the console monitor. Same results for the DAW (I use Logic). I keep thinking I've missed something and go back and match every click and tag you're demonstrating, same results. Is there anything obvious that comes to mind that I may be missing? I had much better luck with the cue mix section, those are working great!
If your DAW is set to the Apollo and you send to a virtual channel, you should see it. Try setting to different output and see if it comes through. My guess is that something isn’t labeled correctly in the I/O matrix and you are sending the signal to the incorrect place. (Especially since you said you are getting iTunes, which means you do have it partially working)
If you get stuck, we could always setup a help session to get it working, but try flipping around and see if that does it.
@@ToddUrban Thank for the reply. Sorry, my initial note wasn't as clear as it should have been. I'm getting neither the mac nor Logic to come through the virtual channels. Both are still coming through the regular monitor. If a special help session is possible, sign me up!
But iTunes does come through the virtual channel? That’s the same as your Mac audio.
Happy to setup a session. You can go to my website and send me an email there. I also have my rates listed. Urbansoundstudio.com
We could fix this and then tackle a few other key things to help you in the future
@@ToddUrban by itunes I meant the Mac. Only coming through console monitor (same as Logic). Neither coming through the virtual. I'll reach out and set something up soon! Thanks again.
Ok. Yeah, something isn’t setup correctly. Shoot me an email and we can find a time to setup a help session. 😊
Any idea why I dont have line 1 or 2 on my outputs on the apollo console i/o matrix? I have a apollo twin x
Hard to say without seeing it. Make sure to choose “default” in the I/O matrix. Maybe you removed it?
@@ToddUrban Ive been at this for a few hours haha. I press default in the Console Settings and it shows 10 outputs starting with Mon L Mon R then goes straight to LIne 3 and Line 4 with no option for 1 or 2
@@josiahhendricks11 Sorry....I should have read your original question better. The Twin's 1/2 outs are the L/R monitor outs. The other 2 outs are the 3/4. Those can be used for additional monitors (alt) or to send out to hardware gear, headphone amps, or anything else. So everything is setup properly for you.
"Let's go to the Audio Midi setup." Where do we find this? Sorry for the stupid question but I'm, well, I'm stupid and you ought not expect anything better from me. Everything else here is great. Mac (Big Sur)/Logic 10.7/Apollo Twin. Thank you!
Go to Spotlight. (The magnifying glass on the top right) you can type Audio MIDI and it should pop up there! 😃
Many thanks!
I just down-sized my home studio and bought an Apollo Twin X. I'm still not getting exactly how to properly configure Logic with the console - in the past haven't really had to deal with an independent i/o console, just recorded from the i/o right into Logic. Seems like a lot of extra steps but also my old feeble brain is no longer capable of learning anything new.
Well, I’m explaining a more advanced routing here. You can certainly just plug in and record without following these steps. But if you get stuck, feel free to message me and we can setup a trouble shooting session.
Just got the x6 but I can’t get the spdif input to work
I used the spdif in on my twin x without any issue for my axe Fx 3 digital setup
I can still use the twin daisy chained into the x6 and the spdif works fine but just using the x6 Dosnt seem to work on either of the 2 spdif ins, am I missing a simple setting somewhere?
Hmm. Not sure. It should be easy just plug and play. Make sure the cable isn’t dead. Also, double check that the SPDIF input is showing in your I/Os under settings. It’s hard to say without seeing it.
@@ToddUrban yeah a head scratcher, this is my 5th apollo interface but my first rack unit,
With the twins the console displays an ADAT or SPDIF option in the console hardware tab but the x6 has no such control
Light pipe is fine and works when using the twin.
I’ll give UA a shout and post back just in case others are experiencing this issue
But thanks for you vids they have proven to be full of great info!
I don’t have an x6, but would assume the ADAt input would appear in console. Maybe try the UAD forum too. They tend to be a good group of users.
@@ToddUrban
mystery solved after this morning’s UA consult
It seems although the x6 as two optical ins/outs on the rear of the unit they are not for digital and that’s why console for this interface does not show adat/spdif options like many of the other interfaces do (even my x twin)
Only the RCA physical I/O will handle the spdif/Digital duties as per a 75ohm male cable
@@gitarman666 nice. Thanks for reporting and documenting this here for others to find! 😊
Good stuff
Better than the UA vids, Yes even with Fab explaining the features frankly he loses me sometimes
🙏🏻 thank you! Glad it helped!
Also, I have a bass guitar track and a guitar track that I recorded through Apollo, that is in logic. Is it possible to have these set up as two different tracks in Apollo console to change the plugins that Apollo console has?
Once they are recorded? In that case, you are typically best either routing your stereo out directly back into the apollo for playback or using a pairs of virtual inputs. But remember, Console is more about monitoring and setting up your recording. It isn’t a mixer in the way Logic’s mixer is.
@@ToddUrban Example: First I record my guitar track and use a pre amp. Then I record my bass track with an amp. Will Apollo recognize and change the settings on the console if I click back and forth between the two tracks in logic? Or is thing going back to console is not a mixer? Should I have both the logic mixer and console up as the same time?
Should I just add the preamps in the logic mixer? I see that I can add the same plugins in Logic that I can on the console.
@@OfficialDSFN They are totally different environments, you are thinking about them incorrectly. But yes, you can put the same plug-ins on in Logic and that will get you the same sound. But think of Console as recording and monitoring and think of Logic as mixing.
@@ToddUrban I truly appreciate your fast responses. I’m sure that I’m not the only one stuck on this. Lastly, I reached out to you on your Facebook page about possibly doing tutoring
Under cue outputs on the right, I don't have any apollo outputs, only source and mix. why would that be? is it the reason i cant get any mic input or headphone/speaker sound?
Which Apollo do you have? But short answer is no. The mic input has nothing to do with the cue outputs. The headphone routing does however get its source from either the mix or the HP/Cue you select. But this setup depends slightly on your Apollo type.
@@ToddUrban i have the apollo twin, mk2, i just got it and i am worried its a lemon....
Are you using an M1? If so, those require a separate step to connect.
@@ToddUrban yeah, and m2. I've looked at all the extra steps, and some of them never happened for me. I made sure I installed it correctly and pressed "allow" in Privacy & Security, though.
My guess is you might need to deal with the security again by doing a reinstall. Make sure to read the help page UA has on their site. I can always help remotely, but before you pay me for a session, see if you can get this done yourself.
My headphone jack isn’t working at all I can’t hear anything nor my mic how to make this work ?
It could be many things. But I’m going to assume you don’t have your cue routing on the bottom right side set correctly. Try putting them to output the mixer to your headphones and it should give you whatever you have set in the Console mixer
When are you going to implement midi control?
Softube Console 1 Mixing System features Apollo Central and that controls the Console 2.0 app. Not sure if UA has plans to allow MIDI at any point.
@@ToddUrban
It is hard to believe that UA Console’s midi control hasn’t been highly requested.
Where do you find you audio midi settings?
Try typing it into spotlight. (The magnifying glass on the top right)
I have analog gear, should I set I/O in console for it?
That depends on how you are using it. I only use my analog gear on the final bounce. So I don’t use the I/o plug-in. But if you want to have something such as a compressor only work on the vocal and have everything else processed only in the box, yes, I/o will help with routing and determining latency.
When i record through Apollo (UAD Rec)to Logic Pro X, i can see the recording level in Logic, and they are the same as the one in Console. When i playback the recording, the levels showing up are not reflecting the original. Instead they are lower. Why is that?
During recording, the meters show you your recording level but on playback, the meters show you your level after the volume fader and any other processing that might be on that channel. Under the mix tab, you have pre fader metering, which will allow you to see the level of the recorded signal, rather than how the level is mixed in the mixer. Hope that helps!
@@ToddUrban Thank you Todd. That was very useful information!!! I have another question for you. Do you use Apollo UAD? I usually paste the settings of some plugins in console and then paste it in the same plugin in Logic. But today for the first time it shows "cannot paste settings" Why is that ?
Hmm. Honestly, I don't know. I never tried copying settings from the Console app into Logic. Typically, I will monitor with UAD plug-ins and use completely different settings once I've tracked, as the song will usually take on a different character as more tracks are added. However, when I'm confident I want to print my plug-ins (like using light compression or something such as a guitar pedal), I will use the UAD Record mode for my plug-ins.
Yes I guess that's the way to go. Sometimes after tracking I like to get the client to audition, let's say his voice, with the same reverb I used during the recording as an Aux send. It's quick to do the copy/paste trick. But for some reason it's not working anymore... Thanks a lot for your help!
I'm having a significantly different sound printed into logic pro then what I am monitoring in console. I have the record option in console selected but it's still not even close to the same
Hmm. The only think I’m thinking here is that maybe you are monitoring through logic instead of through the Apollo and either are hearing processing being applied in Logic or you can be getting phase issues if you are monitoring both at once. But the sound you capture should be 100% exactly the same that you monitor if monitoring is going through the apollo and Console app.
@@ToddUrban thanks for the fast response. I am monitoring through console. I have software monitoring in logic switched off. I've logged an issue with UAD as it's significantly different even the artists I'm working with are like, there's something off on the print vs the monitor. I was reading forums and it appears as though this is an issue with UAD. Had I known I never would've invested into their recording environment .
Have you got any other suggestions I'll take any advice atm. Really appreciate it!
Strange. One of the things I like is that you hear exactly what you get in real time. I do offer help sessions, but since you have a ticket going, I would start directly with them to see if there are any known issues. But I’ve helped tons of people setup their Apollo systems and never heard this issue before. Of course, I also don’t work for UA, so I’m not claiming to know everything. But feel free to reach out if you are still stuck and we can setup a lesson to try and troubleshoot everything from the ground up. Hope it works out! 😃
@@ToddUrban incredible mate very much appreciated!!
I consider buying an Apollo Interface because of the integration with Softube Console 1 Fader. So my goal would be to have a mixer with at least 16 stereo channels which would be controlled by the faders of the Softube Console 1 Fader. So let's say I need to have 16 virtual stereo channels in my Apollo Console Software. Is it possible to do that or is the number of the virtual channels on the X4 limited to 8 virtual mono channels? I have downloaded the Apollo Software on my Mac and I can play with it even without having an Apollo Interface connected to it. So I know there is a slider where you decide how much DSP Powers goes into creating virtual channels, but it seems that on the X4 the number is limited to max 8 virtual channels. On the other hand in the I/o Matrix there are options to create user i/o configurations where you can create for example 32 channels for Pro Tools?! This confuses me or is there something that I am missing? At the end of the day I just want to have a mixer with 16 stereo inputs which can be controlled with the faders of the Console 1 Fader Hardware. Do I have to spend a lot of money for a high end interface like the x16 or could this be achieved also with something like the Apollo Solo Thunderbolt?
Hi! So, Console 1 Fader is awesome for controlling your Apollo. It will control whatever you have setup, and even follow if you combine channels 1 and 2 into a stereo fader. It does not carry over if you "hide" channels, as they are still there on your Apollo, so really, the product is following what the Apollo has.
As for the number of virtual channels, this is a limitation set by Universal Audio. I believe this is due to the DSP chips, but this would be better answered by UA directly. So as far as I know, 8 virtual channels is the max. (though I really only use 2 stereo pairs of virtual channels in my setup) But whatever you have setup in your I/O and other Apollo settings will be followed by Fader. Hope that helps.
@@ToddUrban Thank you. Maybe I am thinking in the wrong direction because I assume that you need for example 16 virtual mono/8 stereo channels if you want to controllthem with 8 Faders on the Softube Unit. But you say you use only 2 Pairs, so 4 virtual channels. Normally you will have in a Project let's say 32 tracks. And the goal should be that you can control all of them with the Fader 1. But you will never have 64 Mono Virtual Channels. So I think there is something that I am missing here. I hope you understand what I mean. Maybe there is some other kind of channels that you use? Something like instrument channels or whatever? Because otherwise the seamless integration might work to controll a specific plugin, but with the Fader 1 you will want to controll your mixes and as you know there are mixes that have hundreds of channels.
@@elotro100 Yeah, I think you are confused with the 2 modes of Console 1. One mode is Console 1, where you don't have anything to do with the Apollo, but are mixing in your DAW. The other mode is Apollo Central, which controls the actual Apollo. You don't need to use any virtual channels here, as this is the mode for the tracking. (though you can use virtual channels if you want). You should try searching the Apollo Central tutorials from Softube, or book a session with their educator Christian, who can take you through all those features. I'm happy to keep answering questions here, but many of these ideas are best seen in person on a Zoom call, or via video tutorials.
Todd Urban as far as i understand the integration of softube refers only to the apollo central mode which would mean that you can only use it with a very limited number of tracks. But I might be wrong. I asked UAD and Softube about this, but in both cases the answers were not very concrete.
No. You can use Console 1 on as many inputs as yours Apollo allows. When tracking, Console 1 allows as many track counts as your DAW allows. So there aren’t any limitations from the Softube side. Console 1 follows what the other company’s products offer.
Audio on a specific channel strip can only play through a virtual channel once recorded and you can never control the gain with the slider in console or only hear what is going through that channel strip by soloing.
Yes, you are correct you need to record the audio and play it back through the virtual channel (or assign system audio to stream through it). However, you actually DO have the ability to use the faders to adjust level. Just make sure all your routing is correct and you are monitoring the main output and it should work
@@ToddUrban Hi Todd, I am trying to print effects from pedals going into the b interface an Apollo x-16 they are both Apollo x interfaces and the pedals are UAFX Pedals and I am using a bus in-between the source and the destination audio but they won't print - All the assignments are right do you think it should print the effects on the destination track? Thank You, Alan
@@dynamicalan Hi! To print an effect, you would want to route the output of the pedal directly into the Apollo's input and record it directly to an audio track. Regarding using a bus in between the source, I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But from the way you describe what you want to do, it sounds like you just need to print directly to an audio track. The other option would be running audio out of your DAW into the hardware effect, but still you would print that back as an audio track.
@@toddurbanmusic Hi, It's all one thing: I have the pedals connected in and out through 2 DB-25 cables and I assign the tracks to the virtual channels 1 and 2 of the interface which is not the same one that I plug into - I recored my tracks on an audio track in Logic but it won't print the effects.
Thank You,
Alan
I think you are confusing virtual tracks with the 16 analog inputs on the Apollo. If you need, we could setup a session to go through your I/Os and make sure this gets working. But you can probably tackle this on your own if you just watch the video one more time and follow things one step at a time. It’s hard to tell you what’s wrong without actually seeing your setup and going through it together. But I’m sure you’ll get it working! 😎
does anyone on here use the console with REASON ? Cant find much help with this DAW
I do sometimes. But typically I use Reason in another DAW. It works the same way, you just need to select the Apollo as the interface and then using the routing on the input/outputs at the top of the rack to customize where you want your audio to go.
CAN You Explain DSP PAIRS Over Virtual Channels ?
I Have Appolo 8P Plus Silver-4Pre and a 4-710-D ADAT - I Record 16 Channels at Ounce, Most Sessions
Sure. You have a choice of whether you want to be able to use more DSP (or plug-ins) while tracking, or have more virtual channels. For me, I typically use 2 stereo virtual channels - one for the DAW and one for CPU audio. If you aren't using any virtual channels, you can set the Apollo to allow for more plug-in processing while tracking. So basically, UA gives you control over what works best for your needs. The 4-710d doesn't have anything to do with this. You can still connect that via ADAT no matter what you select.
Thanks for the fast reply, I didn't realize that was an option.
I use virtual 1-2 linked together, as well as virtual 3-4 and 5-6
I use them so that I can have 3 different mixes from playback tracks in ProTools.
How much DSP could I get back if I only use virtual 1-2????
At this point, I'm able to track with unison plug-ins on all 16 tracks, including the 4-710 but on the 4-7 10 obviously they're not unison .
Also, all 16 tracks have oxide tape..
And
I have Apollo eight pre-version two which only allows three stereo mixes or six outs ..
tmi hahaa
Thanks so much for your tips. Any further advice is greatly appreciated.
@@tootory9506 if you open your UAD meter, you can see how much DSP is being used. But more so, I think the thing here is to decide what balance of DSP vs virtual channels works for you. For me, I only need a stereo out of my DAW to feed the artist the mix for overdubbing. But each person has slightly different setups.
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I want MORE aux channels than just two. Anyone ?
Just curious what you are using them for. I typically only use 1 to send to reverbs while tracking so the artist can get a little ambience in their cues. Sometimes I'll have a delay on the 2nd one.
🪐And here is a comparison of the UAD Reverbs:
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The consoler of UAD is so messy and complicated to use. 😢
This is too confusing. 1) He changes the interface setup. Difficult to follow of you've git a different UA Interface. Plus, by changing setups on different hardware it misses the point of teaching how to use CONSOLE software. So far he's explaining stuff but no apparent method or organization.
much too fast and not deep enough
could you please start from the beginning:
1. what is an virtual input
2. what. is a cue
3. what is a cue mix
4. how do they work with a DAW
5. where do you connect DAW to virtual channels etc...
6. how does the HP knob in the send panel impact on the headphone. etc... sadly nothing about that un. the vid
all these videos assume this vocabulary and knowledge wich impedes the understanding. Why. you video makers forget how YOU started without knowing what is going on ...
...please do not just read the names of the knobs, please explain the interaction of the interior connections..
Well, good news is I have some new content coming in the next few days. Also, this video was a followup to my older Console 2.0 video from many years back. Yes, it is assumed you know by the time you watch this video what all those terms are, as this was meant to be a more advanced explanation of how to use the application.
Here is the link for the old one. UA also has some solid getting started videos that I’d recommend.
th-cam.com/video/YrREJaYMw2Q/w-d-xo.html
@@ToddUrban the old one is private, I can not open it...I would so love to have an explanation what a cue mx is and a slow explanation from 4.00 min. I don't get it though I watched it 10 times ;)
@JC-lb2mg just made it unlisted, but no longer private. Hopefully that helps.