62kWh Nissan Leaf Review And Range Test

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  • This week James and I have been driving the latest 62 kWh Nissan Leaf, giving a plus 200 mile range in real world conditions this should be an outright winner. However, this range increase comes at a cost, almost 6k more than it's predecessor, not cheap. So, is it worth the upgrade or not, join us to find out!!!
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  • @Brianj162
    @Brianj162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review as always

  • @SarahJonestoo
    @SarahJonestoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for another really good and informative video

  • @NameNaameNameeNaamee
    @NameNaameNameeNaamee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great review! Would be worth checking out if the 6000 pound gap between the two variants actually translates to the street pricing. Nissan has been knocking it out of the park lately concerning their real word offers (at least over here in Germany), so it's worth a look for sure.

  • @superduperawesome6858
    @superduperawesome6858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys seem to be one of the thorough and consistent reviewers! Any chance you could delve further into the regen of an EV? Would be interesting to run without regen and then with full regen over a period of time and similar journeys and show your findings - I'm not aware of anyone who's done this and I'm just thinking its a bit of a red herring. Great work BTW!👍

  • @jtchivers
    @jtchivers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yep. Completely agree with that conclusion!

  • @doubledutch13
    @doubledutch13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video 👍 keep well keep safe ❤️

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great review The amazing thing is I haven't knowingly seen a new shape Leaf yet. They blend in so much. Some people will like this about them but I prefer something that stands out a little. Not that my Zoe does either and a minus for me.

  • @brucekennedy5274
    @brucekennedy5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good fair review. Only real issue here is value for money, but that is a massive one, totally agree with the m3 comment. For the record I have the 40kw and I’m more than happy at 70 plus on motorway trips, yeah it eats the range at that speed, but thats no surprise.

  • @TheNWPerry
    @TheNWPerry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and very informative. I recently purchased a 40 Kwh Leaf. Here in Australia we don't have a real large choice of EV cars available. Certainly there is the Ionic, Kona and Tesla all of which price well above the Leaf, excepting the Ionic, which is comparitable in price.
    The 62 kwh Leaf is not available here and as such not a option, however my research form other reviews, and I've seen many, suggest that the larger Leaf is not worth the extra money and that the 40 kwh variant is the better buy.

  • @26DR715
    @26DR715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good review and good video well done 👍

  • @J5045
    @J5045 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Expecting delivery of an e+ Tekna in 2022. Delighted to see your assessment that this is now a 70mph car.
    Nissan dealerships are pretty savvy at rewarding repeat buyers. Essentially they eliminated the price difference between the 40 and 62kwh variants.

  • @TimKirkmt
    @TimKirkmt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video James. Agree with you on all points. And given a choice of a 40kwh leaf and Hyundai Ioniq 28kwh, I'd still go for the hyundai. Nissan aren't keeping up with the market, and they are pricing them selves out of the market. Also completely agree if your in that 35k bracket you're better off squeezing a bit more and getting tesla model 3. They are future proof, and the network is the biggest seller too. Well done. Hope family are well during these current times.

  • @nickieredshaw7835
    @nickieredshaw7835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good video thanks . Have you tested the new Zoe yet or have I missed it ? Thanks

  • @mikos772
    @mikos772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loving my leaf 62. I do agree about the ride but all in I'm happy atm

    • @mikos772
      @mikos772 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also 70kw ,charging is possible

  • @kurriedone741
    @kurriedone741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi James, thanks for another brilliant review. Totally trust you and Kate. My new worry is I have read that Uber have commissioned quite a few mark 2 Nissan Leaf's. I respect Uber and I respect Nissan, however, unless I am under contract with these companies I would not like to buy/drive a car where they can easily be mistaken for a taxi like the Toyota Prius. The other point I agree with you is the inside cabin design and dashboard is far too close to the mark 1 version (but this does include the door handles too).

  • @thesmallrougeone
    @thesmallrougeone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice car but I agree that it's not worth the extra money. Does the massive buffer suggest Nissan are hiding some degradation up there, to mitigate against the lack of thermal management?
    Thanks for another excellent and thorough review 🙏 Stay safe.

  • @glideman
    @glideman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Just got a 40kw Leaf, my third leaf and I love it. Way better than my 30kw, the extra miles are great. I’ve been all over the country in all my leaf gens and had zero problems over three cars and 150,000 miles plus. I like the auto high beam in the new car which is great at night, don’t think you mentioned it in the review, also love the pro pilot which works great in stop start traffic and on motorways.
    The suspension on the 40 is also way better than the 30, feels more composed and fun to drive. The Tekna is stuffed with kit for the money and I got a big discount over the RRP. I chose the leaf over the Model 3 because at the time the 3 was over the luxury car tax limit and I need a hatchback as we have a big family. I also need a reliable car and don’t have the time to sort out problems with the Tesla. Maybe next year when I get my next car I’ll go for the Model Y. That’s looking like my ideal car if they can sort out the quality issues in time, otherwise it’s another leaf😊

    • @kuldippanesar590
      @kuldippanesar590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm had a 2.zero 40kwh it was absolute rubbish because #rapidgate so difficult to do long journeys too many promises was super disappointed loved my 30kwh tekna does what the packaging says kept it in the family now own my second kia eniro ....wow what a car there's no comparison.....part exchanged my first edition lost nothing got back exactly what I paid for it even better free motoring for a year.

  • @be236
    @be236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I've got Nissan LEAF 30kWh, and my next EV upgrade will likely be Kia Niro EV with its longer range and more true usable 64 kWh battery, as Nissan has fallen behind to Kia and Hyundai.

    • @BigHeadClan
      @BigHeadClan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For the moment, but Infiniti/Nissan is rolling out a dedicated EV platform if you take a look at the Nissan Ariya which is expected to make 300 miles of range it would be far more comparable to a Niro.

    • @djscandela
      @djscandela 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nissan had the edge and dropped the ball on the 62 kWh battery by not having liquid BMS to allow the battery to use 100 kWh DCFC. The Koreans saw this and made their cars better, is it enough not if you look at Tesla’s ability to charge at double their rates for road trips. Cabin noise insulation is another area that manufacturers need to concentrate on along with better tires. ( I am Canadian, hence the spelling) I drive a Kona 64 and a BMW i3 Rex 30 kWh, just my opinion you can agree or disagree. Good review, thanks James

    • @Demobot1
      @Demobot1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djscandela I test drove a 62kwh Leaf and I can honestly say that if it had a CCS port instead of chademo then it would be a better all around EV. Even without an active BMS.

    • @SamuraiTacos1
      @SamuraiTacos1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the app is so slow on the leaf that's my gripe lol

  • @RWBHere
    @RWBHere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the review, James. My first question has to be 'Has Nissan's Customer Care attitude improved?' If not, then we're not interested. The second question is 'Does it have a better battery temperature management setup than the 40kWh model?' If not, then the next question would have to be 'Is battery temperature affecting the charging speed, even at moderate ambient temperatures?' The temperature gauge rose from midpoint to the three quarter mark, whatever that might mean. So my guess is 'No.', in which case, the question 'How will Summer or warmer climates affect both charging speeds and battery longevity?'
    Sure most people will not need to recharge the battery 2 or 3 times per day, but the Leaf bugbear of having a compromised BMS is a concern, for anyone who plans on owning one, and keeping it for more than a few years. From what I have read and seen online, battery degradation rates have been higher with larger capacities in the Leaf, so 'Has that negative trend been corrected?' is the fifth question. There are more, but that's enough for one comment.
    Some of the answers cannot be given after a seven day test drive, so we'll have to wait for them. Meanwhile, Nissan are dropping behind other manufacturers in styling, efficiency and price per kWh/range.

    • @okazakijap
      @okazakijap 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The bigger battery can be charged faster but sadly this car still suffer from rapidgate. Check test from Bjorn Nyland for example.

    • @Prodigious1One
      @Prodigious1One 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Used Leafs are good.

  • @kyliefan7
    @kyliefan7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review James! Any thoughts if you think there will be a Third generation of the Leaf coming out? For sure it would be European sold but I would think this car is canceled in the US. Not sold everywhere and they are tanking in the sales dept....Maybe because people had previous Gen ones in a hot climate and got burned in the battery dept?

  • @paulhumphries3795
    @paulhumphries3795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve just gone from the 40kw to the M3 long range, Nissan led the way with EV’s got to comfortable and the competition have overtaken them...it’s a shame.

  • @jeremy1548
    @jeremy1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I completely agree. I can't believe that Nissan have put on such a premium price tag for such a marginal improvement. They are at least selling a 62kWh N-connect for £32k now but even so this should be less that £30k imo given that it's not as good as the eNiro or Kona and arguably the Zoe. The in car nav and dashboard are very dated now. Really an analog speedometer in this day and age!

  • @SantaridesaKTM
    @SantaridesaKTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic Video.

  • @brianstevenson9967
    @brianstevenson9967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I think any manufacturer that is selling in the mid £30k mark has to measure their product against the Model 3 Tesla and ask themselves the question, can our EV offer what that car offers because the chances are that if the customer can spend £36k on a car, chances are they can stretch the budget to that better car. Something Manufacturers really need to think about. I would say they either need to be under £30k or match the Tesla product.

    • @2roses2you
      @2roses2you 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tesla is a shit car, long range but bad bad materials !

    • @dantronics1682
      @dantronics1682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think I've ever seen a tesla been used as a taxi

  • @retrodog63
    @retrodog63 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 40 SV last year (2019 model), with the tech package and weather package. I love the Pro Pilot assist. My 2016 Chevy Volt is a great car, but its cruise control ping-pongs back and forth excessively. But still a great smooth car. The new leaf replaced a 2015 S and the difference is amazing. Really like the upgrade. I've put almost 7,000 miles on it and like pretty much everything except for the center console wings that my knee is against all the time. I had to put a pad on that. Considering cutting it out of the console to get more lateral leg space. Other than that, it's probably the most perfect commuter car for work and around town. And the hauling capacity is both bigger and easier to use than any of the other competitors that I've seen.

    • @tranzteknz2721
      @tranzteknz2721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Nissan dropped the ball on that. Not a problem in the native RHD model as room for your unused left leg away from the console wing. In the LHD Leaf your right leg is always on the accelerator pedal close to the wing.

  • @EVRevolution
    @EVRevolution 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Job guys, Leaf is a solid choice for many and both 40kWh and 62kWh will work for many. No real bells and whistles but a solid and practical choice.

  • @pioneer7777777
    @pioneer7777777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the US version there is a power driver's seat, even on 2019. So that's nice. I also got an insane deal on mine. $23k USD for a new SL + after incentives. Also, I think the suspension is quite good in the Plus.

  • @phileasler5401
    @phileasler5401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I live in the states and love love my Leaf e+. Chose the E+ over the M3 because of the hatch and higher seating.

  • @MikeProcter1
    @MikeProcter1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree with your conclusion James. I had the 40kWh Tekna for 20 months & 28,000 miles and the suspension drove me nuts. Plus the large blind spot from the A pillar. I couldn’t justify the extra for the e+. I ended up swapping it for the MG ZS EV. It’s a different car with its own drawbacks and positives.

    • @lautoka63
      @lautoka63 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which are? I'd like to know more about the MG, please.

    • @chrisp7214
      @chrisp7214 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For the price, how do you rate the MG?

  • @akf2000
    @akf2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a new owner of a 2021 e+ Tekna I agree with every single point in this video. The lack of electric/memory seats and a powered tailgate is really bad. The lack of battery thermal control is awful. However I do love my Leaf and it's clunky massive buttons which are a real throwback. I drove a Tesla and they've just gone overboard on making everything screen-baed.

  • @douglasalanthompson
    @douglasalanthompson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can get north of 75KW on the newer Chademo chargers in the US.
    It looked like there were a number of discounts available for the Leaf now in the U.K.

  • @Pete.Bernfeld
    @Pete.Bernfeld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm waiting to take delivery of the N-Tek version. In round figures £3K cheaper than the Tekna-I wonder if that woud change your and Kate's opinion? Glad it's now a 70MPH car. Both my previous 30KWh and current 40KWh are happier at 60MPH-thinking about range, both would happily do 70MPH. The 'current situation' means my car is sitting at the local dealer, and even if I had taken delivery it would now be sitting as I've been furloughed=plenty of time to plan trips, lol. As far as I can see the only difference between the Tekna and N-Tech versions are leather seats (I'm happier with faux leather) and the Bose sound system (takes up boot space, and my ancient ears probably couldn't tell the difference anyway!). Hope you three are keeping well.

  • @foxylady1048
    @foxylady1048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you have discouraged many people from buying this car now. WELL DONE.

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbh, there are much better cheaper options

  • @Zimpaz
    @Zimpaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive fitting a bugaboo chameleon in the boot. Those things are a beast

  • @jeremy1548
    @jeremy1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bang on regarding 70mph driving. I still drive the 40kWh leaf at 60 to 65mph on motorways. It takes 36% more energy to get the same weight car to 70 than to 60mph then you have 15% more drag at 70 so you really do need the bigger battery to cushion you from that.

  • @imprezaaudi
    @imprezaaudi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just upgraded from our 40kW leaf with nearly 70k miles in 3 years to a 62kW. We will use it just as much but in a couple of years it will be plugged in to our V2G system we are designing to run our property overnight. At this point we will have got a Model 3 long-range

  • @drigans2065
    @drigans2065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Renault Zoe does regenerative breaking in two phases. The first is when you lift off the accelerator pedal and that is fairly light regen. The second is when you apply the break pedal and that can be pretty heavy regen. You can see this on the dashboard where there is a setting that tells you the power input back into the battery. I've seen it generate over 40KW for heavy breaking. Mechanical breaking seems to only occur when you are going very slowly, i.e. parking up.
    What happens with other EVs? Can you get more extreme regen by applying the break pedal or is that just mechanical?

  • @Lewis_Standing
    @Lewis_Standing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought exactly this, i tested the leaf one week then the model 3 the week after. Same price - almost and yet the driving experience and interior and luxury feel of the Tesla blew it out of the water. That said, the model 3 battery is only 40kwh usable, and it if you compare the real world distance data on the EV database, rather than the manufacturers claimed range - the leaf does go further.

  • @Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit
    @Ifyoudonttakeitucantfakeit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Batteries move on. My PM3 with a 75 kw battery does 300 miles real world cf P85 doing 220 miles .
    Great video thanks.

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Charging speeds are entirely dependent on battery temperatures, Nissan doesn't have an active cooling solution for the leaf as of yet if you want
    full charge speeds you very likely require the car to be powered off and cool.
    I get the logic of your point and it is valid criticism, active cooling is something I hope to see from Nissan soon for the leaf.

  • @markholttum
    @markholttum 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. Ridiculous price for a family workhorse.

  • @arenjay3278
    @arenjay3278 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You convinced me to buy a Chevy Bolt EV. A 70 mph car for my 189 mile trip city to city. With the new 2020 66 kWh battery.

  • @rorywelburn9909
    @rorywelburn9909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How does it compare to your mgzs EV? Which has the better ride? What about mileage? Also charge rate Thanks

  • @spectralcav
    @spectralcav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Until the Leaf offers thermal battery management, I don't see it being of worthy consideration as a long-term ownership proposition. I don't understand why they won't do this when all their competitors seem to appreciate it's importance for battery longevity and charging speeds

  • @AdrianMcDaid
    @AdrianMcDaid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had this car on test drive also got same range 184 on motorway journey.

    • @douglasalanthompson
      @douglasalanthompson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve done 220 miles at nearly 70mph in good weather. It’s important to know the car hides almost 10% below 1% On the dash to keep you from getting stranded.

  • @xezzee
    @xezzee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finland almost all fast chargers are 50kWh regardless if you use CHAdeMO or CCS which is interesting. Also after looking the map around if you drive around major cities you gave good options for that but closest one to me is 25km away so anyone visiting me with EV should know that :D I should talk to the places here if we could get one of each fast chargers to one of these places ...

  • @leaflover9625
    @leaflover9625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s the price of the new Leaf that’s crazy. I looked at the 2020 Leaf here in the US and it was priced at $44,000. Way too much for a simple car. I paid only $17,000 for a barely used 2015 Leaf. I just use it around town and plug it in my garage. Easiest car I’ve ever owned. Not snazzy like a Tesla but it runs fine at little cost.

  • @decimal1815
    @decimal1815 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It will be interesting to see how used prices for these go once the cheaper, longer-range Chinese cars are readily available. The extra weight of the 62kwh Leaf seems to impact efficiency, reducing the impact of the larger battery?

  • @beiwew
    @beiwew 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi james n kate.is the suspension better then mg zs ev pre facelift which is abit choppy and noisy too? Also does it constantly wheel spin like an a zs? I m trying to decide between a Leaf+ or a ZS ev facelift 52-/+kwh ? Budget constraints.cheers

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Leaf 62 is better planted than the pre-facelift ZS EV, but the facelift ZS EV is much better.

  • @dougonutube
    @dougonutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, it's got to be the Model 3 over this. Or, of course, the amazing Kia e-Niro (if they actually finally delivery any!!). At this price point, there are better options out there and Nissan haven't cottoned on to the fact that they're not the only game in town any more...

  • @bobthebarsteward
    @bobthebarsteward 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed a point regarding road tax when you suggested an alternative to the Leaf, Although the retail of that alternative comes in at less than £40k, some of the upgrades push it over that threshold and into the 'luxury car' tax bracket, and you can end up paying more in road tax than I'm paying for my old gas-guzzling X5, which is plain wrong imho. I've just bought a high mileage 24kw Leaf (from Chorley Nissan), still has 87% battery and 80 mile range but only if I keep the speed down to 60mph or below.

  • @ancient.journey
    @ancient.journey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesterday i bought my first brand new ev. Nissan leaf 62+tekna. Too bad i have to wait estimate 100-200 days because options what i pick. Here in Finland price was 41.900€ including pearl color etc.

  • @mikecarter2737
    @mikecarter2737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    From the states - Nissan has a track record of NOT misrepresenting charge rate, unlike some others. I believe Fastned showed the 62kWh Leaf+ charging at 102kW. This week I took our 40kWh to a DCFC that claimed 150kW. By using LeafSpy and knowledge of how the car charges on truly fast CHAdeMO, I was able to determine charger only delivered 50kW. Many DCFC are mislabeled, using impossible high voltages (500V, for example).

    • @ckgrier2
      @ckgrier2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a link for Fastned charging of the new Leaf plus?

    • @mikecarter2737
      @mikecarter2737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ckgrier2 pushevs.com/2018/07/06/evtec-tests-charging-the-2019-nissan-leaf/
      (Not fastned - EVTEC)
      Note a "70kW" charger most likely delivers under 140A, whereas you need 270-300A to deliver 100kW, however briefly, to a Leaf+.

  • @andrewgage6942
    @andrewgage6942 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I were able to afford an electric vehicle, distance would be a major consideration as I commute, my days journey consists of mainly motorway miles, my daily journey is approximately 74 miles both ways, there's no charging points between home and work, plus I sometimes only have 9 hours off between shifts, so the battery may not be even 80% charged for days at a time, sometimes the vehicle may remain unused for days if I'm stuck out, so I need a vehicle that would be able to withstand this type of use

  • @t5jerry
    @t5jerry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    37 secs into the video, you mention the "europen" , is this a new type of biro? if so , are you testing the "europen" soon 👍👍👍

  • @sargfowler9603
    @sargfowler9603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting to note that these are now £26K new. Does that make a difference?

  • @petertraveller6421
    @petertraveller6421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leaf 62kwh is not a bad car, but price is too high, 2020 Zoe is good choice about 10.000 euros cheaper. When you don't have much money, 10.000 is big deal. Leaf can be little bit bigger than Zoe, but money is more important than size. Also Zoe's 22kw AC charging is much better.

    • @nickieredshaw7835
      @nickieredshaw7835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To right fine car new Zoe and if you go for ccs it’s rated at 50 kw and as most chargers are 50 kw in uk it’s lot cheaper than leaf 62 with about same range also there’s good discounts too so top spec ze50 for about 27 k

  • @SandyRitchie
    @SandyRitchie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    £36k book, whats your view on what you could get it for with some haggling?

  • @ianthomas8743
    @ianthomas8743 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I looked and drove leaf ,Kia and Hyundai and ended up getting Model 3.

  • @reddyornott9981
    @reddyornott9981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can pick up a 62 tekna for about 30k so the gap to the M3 is more like 10k

  • @adrianpike4649
    @adrianpike4649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    £6000 more for an extra 20kWh battery capacity - that works out at £300 per kWh, which is way more than the industry target of $100 per kWh!

    • @jur4x
      @jur4x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      industry aims for $100 per kWh purchase price from supplier. And from what I've heard, they are not that far from it. Sales price for end user however, is totally different thing. They can get cells for $5 per kWh and still charge you at £350 per kWh when you buy a car. Just because they want to

  • @steve228uk
    @steve228uk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Crazy to me that the e-208 and Zoe can go farther with smaller batteries.

    • @Thenotsonormalgamer
      @Thenotsonormalgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen Radford I would imagine in real world conditions, the e-208 and Zoe would do a bit less than their claimed ranges. In winter, in similar conditions, I would expect both to do less than 200.

    • @AdrianMcDaid
      @AdrianMcDaid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No way in hell the e-208 goes further. I had one for weekend it did around 130ish miles same type of journey

    • @LeeOades
      @LeeOades 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've got an e-208 on order and having test driven it, I can confirm that it definitely doesn't go as far as this. But it's cheaper, much better looking and equipped and chargers more quickly.

    • @brianstevenson9967
      @brianstevenson9967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you go on to the Peugeot website they have a nice little piece of software that gives you potential ranges for the e 208 under different driving conditions and driving styles. If you enter a 70mph drive under let’s say 10c temp and normal driving you may be surprised at how low they estimate the range to be, let’s just say it is no where near 217 mls

    • @nickieredshaw7835
      @nickieredshaw7835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I agree just taken Delivery of Zoe ze50 and did 190 miles at 65 mph on the motorway in wind and rain the whole trip and had 26 miles left averaging 5 miles per kWh and since had car for 2 weeks covered 750 more miles seen upto 5.4 on a roads trip .worst I’ve seen is 4.2 on hilly trip. Best range estimate is 252 miles and on a road trip I got 125 miles on about 50% of the battery keeping up with traffic so gom is about right if you drive it sensibly. It’s a vast improvement from the 40 kWh car. Interested to see what you think James and Kate in the new Zoe.

  • @nomadchad8243
    @nomadchad8243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Perfect car for about five years ago.

    • @pioneer7777777
      @pioneer7777777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best value for am EV in 2020. I just got a SL Plus for $20,000 less than the cheapest Tesla Model 3. Despite the haters, it really is the EV for the common man.

    • @SNORKYMEDIA
      @SNORKYMEDIA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pioneer7777777 Kia, Hyundai, more miles and cheaper and no Chadamo and no heat issues

    • @pioneer7777777
      @pioneer7777777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SNORKYMEDIA Definitely not cheaper. Best Niro deal was still $8k more. Kona is too small to be usable for me since I have a family. Niro and leaf are the same size.

  • @martincornish3179
    @martincornish3179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't understand your 70mph speed comment my 40kw leaf cruises effortlessly at this speed and as for crashing noisely over bumps ? Can't say I've noticed that. Am I missing something here?

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The comment was relating to the impact on range. At 70mph the 40's range is severely impacted, where as, the 62 will cruise at 70 and cover a good distance. The suspensions are all noisy in our experience, and this is quite widely documented across the internet. The only real way to compare is, drive another EV of compatible weight over the same road.

  • @NigelWickenden
    @NigelWickenden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Has it got proper battery temperature management?

  • @michaelstevens3479
    @michaelstevens3479 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forget it the bottoms going to drop out of the oil market happy motoring.

  • @6andrew2
    @6andrew2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought a brand new 62kWh e n Tek for £29k on the road, which is a 40kWh price. Money talks!

  • @dan123collins
    @dan123collins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that’s crap that they advertise 62kWh, but you can’t actually use all of that.
    I’ll be in the market for a second hand ev in 2 years time so it will be interesting to see what I can buy for my estimated 12k budget ( or cheap ev lease if such a thing exists then )

  • @Music-dd4yk
    @Music-dd4yk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ♥James and Kate

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little harsh James but understandable Nissan really need to fix a few things as compared to the package of the e-Nero is a lot lot better my test o noted the following 1 still non reach rake steering wheel this has to be fixed I felt like I was driving a bus 2 battery it needs to be water cooled and upgraded as it still not as efficient as e-Nero range on my loop 4.5-5kw per mile Nissan 3.5 and range echoed your at motway I got 182 milestone arrived with a dash dash dash this really needs to be changed. So so range isn’t as good by a long shot , yet the e-Nero got a wiping 234 miles and still had 5 % come on Nissan your pack needs looking at however I really did prefer the nissans drive as it didn’t scramble the tires at every opportunity when pulling away and was quieter for the U.K. and Europe as a whole it’s it’s more than adequate . 3 rear seat room yes the roof isn’t good for anyone over 5.10-5.11 also front seat design could be a bit better sculpt for rear leg room, however seat height was excellent in disagree the seat thickness needs altering as your legs are neutral not in the air like the Zoe or e-up , up front yes I agree that the seats should be powered at this price point I still think a digital dash is the way forward for all it’s retro looks I still preferred my mk1 two level design I agree it needs a refresh slightly as it’s starting to feel dated. Finally charging I really think Nissan need to borrow there charger for Renault alliance ad 6.6 kw is ok but the Zoe offered 3phase 22kw ac as well as ccs I think chadamo is ok but maybe Nissan should offer ccs now for Europe as the chargers aren’t being upgraded yet yet the newer chargers on ccs seem to charge faster. With the vw id3 coming in 77kw it will easily beat Nissan for range and be abou the same price as well as Zoe and e208 both undercutting it on price and same range it’s going to be a hard sell when the e-Nero offers so much more better package

  • @bossman4401
    @bossman4401 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now that you can get a 62kwh leaf for 25k with 5k miles on it ex demonstrator, what would you choose ?

    • @thayalansuntharalingam
      @thayalansuntharalingam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Leaf plus is great low miles 20k for 20k good value specially for commutor.

    • @pigknickers2975
      @pigknickers2975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      even cheaper now

    • @bossman4401
      @bossman4401 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pigknickers2975 I did buy the 40KWH leaf. My wife have Been driving it and loves it. Got it with 7k miles for 19k

  • @tomquimby8669
    @tomquimby8669 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    James you mentioned the reliable Tesla supercharge network. I have been reading the terms and conditions from Tesla. They can and do restrict charging rate of Tesla cars and can disable DC charging altogether at their whim. I talked to Tesla direct and they confirm that, as well as removing the cars from warranty if they do not have the latest OTA in a car at the time of the breakdown. They suggest it is because the cars are deemed unsafe without the latest OTA update.
    I was very pro Tesla but after bothering to check the Net so many people are having problems with Tesla's warranty. I have moved my next car purchase from Tesla to VW and the soon to be produced ID3

    • @nickbaker4857
      @nickbaker4857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope they sort the software out then.

    • @cawfeedawg
      @cawfeedawg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only time i have heard of this being used real world is for cars that were complete salvage and some backyard tinkerer tried to put one back together. For liability reasons they cant guarantee supercharging under those conditions. Just don't buy a salvage repair one.

  • @don-qb4xb
    @don-qb4xb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its an old platform with a half cocked upgrade. Most of the public are not stupid and will go Kona, E Niro or if they have the money Model 3. They are really going to have to up their game or they are gong to be left well behind as they are already.

  • @jur4x
    @jur4x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After driving courtesy Micra for few weeks, I'm highly skeptical about Nissan in general. At the moment Seat e-Mii seems a better option to me. Peugeot e-208 that they showed at FCL2019
    also had manual seats, but at least it costs far less than £37k

  • @superministry
    @superministry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know how I got here, but it seems like people with EVs are suffering the car and lack of infrastructure and paying too much of their hard earned money. I got hybrid corolla, very quiet, spacious, inexpensive to run, so far very happy.

  • @philterry3293
    @philterry3293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the ending said it all. There is no way this can compete with a Tesla, so there is no way to justify spending that sort of money, for what is essentially a bog standard EV.
    Sorry Nissan I love my Leaf, but there is no way I'm spending that much when a Tesla offers far more value.

    • @douglasalanthompson
      @douglasalanthompson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the new Leaf Discounts, the Plus can be had for about £6-7K less than the M3 with some negotiation, which makes it more about your specific needs whether the M3 is worth it. The 40 Leaf (Accenta) can be had for £26K, which is in a different price category altogether.

    • @TheLongonot62
      @TheLongonot62 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nissan has the upper hand in terms of reliability - Tesla well down the list, despite all the hype.

  • @SamuraiTacos1
    @SamuraiTacos1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i got a 2019 nissan leaf

  • @dennislyon5412
    @dennislyon5412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would seem like the added oomph would make this a hot hatch, but between the suspension and the heavier weight of the 62 kWh battery, not so well. The big price hit to go from 40 to 62 kWh battery seems unjustified. It’s a good car for the UK climate, though.

  • @pollumG
    @pollumG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The new one looks way better...

  • @hutchd71
    @hutchd71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It has done well as a taxi

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can see it fitting in well tbh. The Interiors stand up well and they're comfortable. How's the range in reality???

  • @MCSMIK
    @MCSMIK 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. But the car is totally not worth the money. It’s also so inefficient it’s ludicrous. If it was 30 grand, maybe. Wonder if the used market of these will be very small and very good for second hand at buyers. As the value is unlikely to stay too high in my opinion

  • @evbobdemon6994
    @evbobdemon6994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    everyone comments on how smooth ride my leaf is, from petrol heads.

  • @drivingvideosmainlyfromfin147
    @drivingvideosmainlyfromfin147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you pay little less than 6 000 euroes for 50 extra horse and 20 kwh of battery? Yes if you need so

  • @Chick3nSalad
    @Chick3nSalad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "The roads in this country aren't great.."
    Me: *Laughs in Zimbabwean* 😂

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's hilarious 🤣🤣

  • @antoniozerkhfaoui1918
    @antoniozerkhfaoui1918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nissan is dreaming 37k I will get a Tesla model Sc2017 for that money and Tesla is worth every penny

  • @alexdalgleish1061
    @alexdalgleish1061 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suspect EV wise, things simply moved on. And for this size of car Nissan probably not built something with independent front and rear suspension for 20 years. So ride and handling will never improve. Suspect the VW e Golf you tested probably a lot nicer to drive?!

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Have you tried it out for how many Toilet Rolls could be accommodated in it''s Boot, as it would seem to be a major factor before even considering this latest offering from Japan - closely linked to China.*

    • @chrisp7214
      @chrisp7214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toilet rolls being soft and light, can easily be packed in the rear passenger compartment. So this shouldn't be a deal breaker.

  • @Smiler7
    @Smiler7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a 40kWh Leaf.
    I tried the 62kWh for 2 days = TOO HEAVY:Brakes judder: Unstable under sharp acceleration.
    Suspension poor.
    Felt bad compared with the 40kWh!!

  • @ram64man
    @ram64man 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come no Kate view this time ? was it because of c19 lockdown (if so I still would have like a home shot her point of view ) I’m not a Tesla car fan also but why the model 3 as a recommendation ? it’s not really in the same price bracket or style as the others such as the e-Nero etc plus it’s a bigger car overall

    • @nickbaker4857
      @nickbaker4857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because there is very little price difference between the 62 Leaf and base Model 3 possibly. And the Kona and E-Niro are SUV's not saloon cars.

  • @michaelgoode9555
    @michaelgoode9555 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not sure that electrically adjustable seats are really such a good thing in any car let alone an EV. My view is that for most people the car will be driven by one person and thus you are simply carrying around dead weight which can be expensive to repair in the future.
    I don't mind safety tech but from an environmental perspective I think that it's a bit frivolous and very wasteful to load a car full of motors and wires for things which are almost never used.

  • @mala5914
    @mala5914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From this painfully honest review (thank you) it’s obvious that Nissan need to release the fully electric Juke asap. The Leaf can then be allowed to fade gracefully away...

  • @davidsworld5837
    @davidsworld5837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking at it paying that much money puts it more in the middle of many other ev's that look and seem better why not show what else you can buy for the same amount of money as this leaf
    you did not say does it now have battery management ?
    My second thing you say get a tesla due to charging network being very reliable how come it is so reliable over every one else networks if you look on zap app there are so many one people say do not work it does put people off getting an ev as puts more stress not being able to charge

  • @marcusmascord6079
    @marcusmascord6079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. VW ID.3 will be cheaper and better :-)

  • @BRI535D
    @BRI535D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't quite stack up against a 64kwh eNiro.

    • @Jamesandkate
      @Jamesandkate  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. Or the MG5. Sadly, the range now just isn't good enough for the size of pack.

  • @johnadams1976
    @johnadams1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on... Two hands on the wheel.

  • @ckgrier2
    @ckgrier2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really disappointing fast charge rate with peak below 50kw. Is ANYONE reporting 100kw results? So far I think we have a class action lawsuit. False advertising.

  • @ludvigelmquist1288
    @ludvigelmquist1288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    KIA kills the Nissan on all points,

    • @Prodigious1One
      @Prodigious1One 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully Nissan will be brave to realize the IDS concept for Leaf 3.0.

  • @nigelweir3852
    @nigelweir3852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Expensive , chargegate?,range?, looks? , old tech

  • @gingernutpreacher
    @gingernutpreacher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    chorely Nissan have a really bad reputation when it comes to warranty work

  • @rajjy1976
    @rajjy1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    UMMMMMM he said “shit” 🤭