WHY is Azir so DIFFICULT to play? | League of Legends

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  • Azir has always been touted as a hard champion, at least one of the hardest in the entire game. But why is that?
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  • @El_Bellota
    @El_Bellota ปีที่แล้ว +67

    He's one of the only ones that has to position perfectly or be useless in team fights or die.

  • @zontraxz9910
    @zontraxz9910 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    On the other side, no other champion can build so many different runepages and items and be extremely useful in all of them. Sure, it takes time to master all the different playstyles, but man is it rewarding to do so. Love your videos man, you deserve more recognition

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Having all that choice also makes his skill ceiling even higher, since you have to judge which build best suits the situation, and master each playstyle
      Also thanks for the compliments, I really appreciate it!

    • @wladynoszhighlights5989
      @wladynoszhighlights5989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@minimoYT Also, Azir is a jack of all trades, can and needs to adapt to different situations, so not only micro but also macro will be A LOT harder on him since he will have a lot more options

    • @danieldani5922
      @danieldani5922 ปีที่แล้ว

      taric jungle has more items he can go, but i dont know of any other champ that can build more different items then azir, maybe ezreal

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieldani5922 graves has a lot of different setups available aswell

    • @hosoi1158
      @hosoi1158 ปีที่แล้ว

      As an azir/Kat main… Kat has infinitely more variability since she can go too haha

  • @ACougarHunter
    @ACougarHunter ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Good info on why Azir is tough to play. One huge thing you didn’t touch on is to play Azir at anything other than a basic level you must use attack move to use his autos properly. Also his cooldowns are pretty long early.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I could have elaborated more on that, but imo using attack move is easier than right clicking on top of people. It's one of the shared difficulties Azir has with most adcs

  • @bohomazdesign725
    @bohomazdesign725 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love that Katarina example because its so freakin accurate. Katarina literally cant do shit in lane against Azir. Azir abosutely dominate the lane. You can say a couple times to your team mates that she will roam, you can spam ping them and yet they will die every single time to Katarina and flame you for not following her roam. Like it doesnt even make sense to follow. You are already extremly ahead, the enemy cant lane against you, so she has to roam and now the part people dont understand. If they back off from their lane the Katarina that NEEEDS TO SNOWBALL cant snowball thru roams which makes at some point as much worth as a minion and an overfarmed plates taking hyperscaling Azir in exchange for 1-2 minion waves in bot lane. The issue is that those monkeys in the bot lane cant stand that they are not the main carries every single game. They rather int than let anyone else carry.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      I still think that bot laners have a hard time looking at the map because they're fighting and trading all the time, and a lot of the time, they can't stop the bleeding because junglers usually prioritize ganking them.
      That said, PLEASE TWITCH LISTEN TO THE PINGS YOU'RE UNDER *THEIR* TURRET AND YOUR SUPPORT IS BASING

  • @gold9994
    @gold9994 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Big azir ult is not always good.
    Sometimes, you have to just auto the enemies rather than going for the shuffle flash ult (you stopwatch and dies afterwards). Azir ultimate is like an inferior orianna ultimate, but easier to hit with higher risks involved. It's easier to hit because shockwave cast time is too long.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most of the time Azir's ult is self-peel rather than engage, since he doesn't *need* to go in, it's just one of his options

    • @wladynoszhighlights5989
      @wladynoszhighlights5989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont know if its easier to hit, Azir ultimate is very slow too, it can get flashed/dashed before it hits very often or even just runned out with some movespeed
      Maybe a bit

    • @gold9994
      @gold9994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wladynoszhighlights5989 In some cases, Orianna ult is much easier to hit. Put the into an engage champion: Lee sin, Hecarim, mumu and you get an easy ultimate.

    • @jwg0814
      @jwg0814 ปีที่แล้ว

      And there's more to take into account, because of his ult, Azir is good to get picks, or push laners into our junglers who are coming to gank. Something I realized is that you need to be aware of how strong your jungler is and what type of jungler (talking from low elo) cuz... Ive killed my own junglers trying to engage 🙃🙃

  • @wladynoszhighlights5989
    @wladynoszhighlights5989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very very good video, love it!

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a bit like playing chess, yeah, except your opponent can flip the table and sucker punch you any second lol

  • @dannywang4543
    @dannywang4543 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always imagined it’s because azir damages build up. They don’t all hit you in one go. And fights usually don’t last that long.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s also true, a lot of his DPS is gated behind having 3 soldiers on the field, which takes a while unless you stack ability haste

  • @henryt9731
    @henryt9731 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! otp since his release. I still struggle some times🤣

  • @Arize13373
    @Arize13373 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started releasing Azir content on my own! Cool vid!

  • @connorbrown9672
    @connorbrown9672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video!

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Glad you liked it

  • @azir8910
    @azir8910 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Azir like every champ need just practice. I play Azir for two years and i am feeling always confident when I play him. Nice video :).

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to agree, I've been maining him for 2 years as well, to the point that he's my comfort pick. I'm still getting used to the new playstyle, though

    • @ValBoon997
      @ValBoon997 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing here been playing for 2 years but I'm still unable to master his skills. You need a good team with proper builds, tough ones and a good crowd control. Its always been a win situation. But I still felt like I'm a rookie playing him.

  • @andreastolis5595
    @andreastolis5595 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    azir truly is one of the most difficult champs, mainly because of how unorthodox he is compared to the other champs, kinda like hes the yoshimitsu of league (shoutout to any t7 fans)
    P.S. when dummy started playing i died XDDD

  • @arminthemooncop4688
    @arminthemooncop4688 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting to know how to play azir's many playstyles is handy and very good, but this meand playing only him to learn all of that and sucking at all other champions that are not azir.
    Azir feels easy for me and everything else hard.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You know what? Same. The good part is that Azir almost never gets banned or picked b the enemy team, but when he does... you better know how to play Veigar

    • @hey_men9719
      @hey_men9719 ปีที่แล้ว

      same bro that's so accurate, i have a friend who plays all champ and when we do aram ( rarely ) i do shit even if i have master Yi like bro it feel so hard but when i play azir it's so easy man

  • @braeden5118
    @braeden5118 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 months later I am just now realising I am in this video lmao. Thx algorithm.

  • @thatguy3775
    @thatguy3775 ปีที่แล้ว

    this just makes me respect Body (number 1 Azir world) infinitely more, the man is absolutely cracked

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      That guy isn't just "cracked" he's a goddamn monster, every fight he plays is worthy of a montage

    • @thatguy3775
      @thatguy3775 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minimoYT exactly, I don't want to promote on your channel without your permission and will remove the rest of this if you want, but everybody interested in some insane plays eith Azir, please check out Body Those Fools' channel, the guy is insane

  • @GeoXT
    @GeoXT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:10 😂

  • @PlagueDrSmith
    @PlagueDrSmith 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Azir is a champion who has to build an on hit item and yet he can not use on hit effects that paired with that fact he cant use most auto attack runes dispite using auto attacks

    • @ush6927
      @ush6927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Riot heard your cries

  • @kadalix
    @kadalix ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLIDAY IN SPAIN LMAOO

  • @renidea9523
    @renidea9523 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One Millon diamond. I love him so much

  • @Muttisuri
    @Muttisuri ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that his E's shield is totaly pointless it's not like it has a tiny knockup as he had before, his E feels useless tbh, I just wish it could dash through enemies, and it's not like champions with more damage and simmilar dashes exist.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think his E is what makes him so safe in lane, it's not like most mages where you can throw a 1000 range projectile and retreat, you have to autoattack from mid-short rnge to trade effectively, so the dash is what lets you trade aggressively and escape a possible gank.
      The shield is small, but it's not entirely useless, you can use it to body-slam a Yasuo/LeBlanc/Zed when they jump you, and the shield makes you win quick trades against them

  • @coffeepot3123
    @coffeepot3123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a "difficult" champ considering the leveling of the champ is the same as any other, i'm not level 5 yet and have a pretty good grasp.
    (though the shurima shuffle/moving trough walls etc remains to be studied hehe..)
    STILL .... a fucking beautiful champ, one of the best designed champs in the entire catalog imo.

  • @hi-bq4el
    @hi-bq4el ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love azir

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes two of us

  • @armano4125
    @armano4125 ปีที่แล้ว

    Azir right now is not worth it. The amount of champions that outdamage you, have dashes all the time and even outrange you (looking at you senna) is not worth your small range advantage.
    Azir needs a rework. Either bring him back his passive on ult that knocks back conventional dashes, or increase range on his soldiers.
    Or maybe think of new way of scaling for the range, so that he isnt too opressive in lane but in late game his range is bigger than now

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Imo Azir's kit is fine as it is, the only thing I'd change other than quality of life changes is increasing the summon range for the W, so it'd be a bit longer. Right now you have to step up very close to danger to attack people without burning the Q right away

    • @danieldani5922
      @danieldani5922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      any champ is worth playing if you have fun playing that champ

  • @Corvides
    @Corvides ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jokes on you, I play him cause he’s hot
    I uh also don’t know how to play league so…

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Too based, so fvcking zased

  • @braeden5118
    @braeden5118 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMO Azir isn't "hard", he is harder than a lot of other champs but a few weeks and you can do pretty okay on him assuming you have the fundamentals of League down. I think his problem is this; There are 3 stages to a league game, laning phase, mid-game/skirmish phase and late game/teamfight phase. Azir is pretty good at 2 of the 3. That being laning and teamfighting, the issue is his skirmish power is pathetic because his W damage HAS to be bad. This is because his poke is long range, remarkably consistent, and oppressive in lane so if he did okay damage mid-game, his laning damage would be off the charts due to AA Q AA being so quick and easy to hit. For example, you said that his damage was bad then showed 80 damage an auto, Don't forget that a basic combo of 2 AA and 1 Q means roughly ~200 damage at that stage and its basically undodgeable. If you wanted to make Azir the same/worse in lane and make him a better skirmishers, you would have to basically remove his Q damage altogether and make the CD waaay lower. However, I don't think this is what makes Azir bad/hard. I think it's the players who play with him, almost no one understands that if you walk out of Azir soldiers, he does nothing. And that "YoU cAn MoVe ThE SoLdIeRs WiTh Q" comment makes no sense if you just play him for 1 game, move all your soldiers away, then get 1v1 by yuumi cause you have no soldiers and Q is on a 10-sec cooldown. The amount of times I am 2v2 with jungle and he just... walks away from me and my soldiers, dies 1v2 then pings is insane. This is why he does so much better in higher elos and pro play. I find Azir is actually waaay better toplane since you can run Conq or First strike and basically scale for free and not have to worry about roaming at all. Not to mention with Azirs R he can outplay a lot of obnoxious toplaners such as Trynd and Darius. The only issue is, no front line if you are top and can mean an AP-heavy team.
    TL;DR Azir is bad cause mid-lane is a roam and skirmish-orientated lane but Azir is arguably one of the worst champions in the game for this aspect both in terms of kit and player base knowledge (ESPECIALLY after lethal tempo rework/nerfs).

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      Beautifully written. I also believe that a good part of his difficulty comes from a weak mid-game. However unlike someone like Kindred, his skirmishing power early on is also pretty weak, since the Q and E are on such long cooldowns, while Kindred, for example, can just keep kiting away

    • @braeden5118
      @braeden5118 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minimoYT You hit it on the head in the video, Azir is in a weird spot because unlike ADCs he cant do anything when he has no CDs. Kindred, vayne, darius, lucian, tristana; all these champions can do something after they use their abilities, Azir can pray to the sun disk that they decide to just kinda stand around in his soldiers while everything is on CD. And people talk about soldier placement, I think Q usage is 1000x more important. Placing a soldier wrong will net you less damage or a slower push, use Q the wrong way will get you 100 to 0'd and flamed.

    • @reineKenpachi
      @reineKenpachi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Azir support might be the intended way to play him:
      Capability of making the enemy ADC unable to farm, good poke damage, can easily set up kills for his ADC (and defending him if needed) his kit is literally made to be a support, hes not even good in midlane (in most situations, i know there are matchups where Azir dominates)

  • @TheCr0oked1
    @TheCr0oked1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's easy, get movement down by q'ing early after e your mind will fill in the time gap after awhile once you got muscle memory down you after 2 weeks of play you dont need to think about it shuffle done easy then he plays like every other mage cept you can split push with passive reliably i reccommend not doing it without zonyahs in side lanes also pushing down with top laner 2 0 3 can be devistating cause they need 3 or 4 to beat you

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mechanically I'd say he's more difficult than most mages due to having to play fights like a weird autoattacker. Mages can often hit one CC, kit dump from ~800 range and stay back while waiting for cooldowns. Azir needs to stay within ~675 range and stop to auto frequently to deal damage. Nowadays I'd say he's easier than when the video was made, since he scales better, but he's still very weak before 2 items and can't bully people in lane anymore (other than Pantheon)

    • @TheCr0oked1
      @TheCr0oked1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@minimoYT yea but late game champs are not hard, any early game weakness it made up by teammates who majority will play early game champs most enemy teams will not be happy if you shove em into a aatrox
      I just dont like the idea that azir is the hardest champion in the game because its not true and it discourges people from playing him
      In my expirence the hardest champions in the game are skillshot reliant like taliyah. Taliyah HAS to hit everything so she is outclassed by everyone who does not have to hit everything in fact she is only good when her damage is busted or shes played in pro's

  • @muhammedmuha4846
    @muhammedmuha4846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive never gotten flamed for not following a fuken katarina in river but im sure gonna taste it....just like when junglers complain at minion wave not being good for gank and mid wants gank never understood it untill today

  • @safeat4505
    @safeat4505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azir can be fixed with one buff: add his Q a second charge.

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would make his poke too strong, though, unless the damage was also drastically reduced

  • @jazobz2085
    @jazobz2085 ปีที่แล้ว

    Played him since launch. I don’t think he that hard 😅

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Considering that he's a mana-hungry control mage with marksman micro and very low stats, I honestly think he's way up there.
      We just played him enough that a lot of the soldier positioning and mechanics became second nature, but objectively speaking, he's one of the harder champions in League

    • @jazobz2085
      @jazobz2085 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minimoYT remember his e had a knock up … the missed outplayed potential we had 😭

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jazobz2085 I didn't play League back then, but I sure wish I did

  • @jeremymccray459
    @jeremymccray459 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azir really sucks. Like real bad. He's not worth playing. Think of it like this. Illaoi deploys tentacles on spot and will just wipe a team. Heinerdenger will drop turrets and they will always do more damage than your azir. He's a cool concept but overall useless squishy and does low dmg

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Azir's damage is rather low, but heimerdinger's turrets can be destroyed, Illaoi's tentacles can be dodged, and they're both immobile. Azir having low damage and being squishy is the counterweight to him having good range, and being super safe

    • @jeremymccray459
      @jeremymccray459 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minimoYT he needs more damage to be a decent champ. His range is meaningless if it doesn't do any damage. Especially late game. And his soldiers don't last long enough

    • @ACougarHunter
      @ACougarHunter ปีที่แล้ว

      His early damage is low. He is a scaling champion. He needs some levels and items to be effective. Once he gets lost chapter he has kills pressure with ignite.

    • @cxbarren4528
      @cxbarren4528 ปีที่แล้ว

      Azir has been a top tier mage for a while? Wtf are you talking about

    • @anhhy5486
      @anhhy5486 ปีที่แล้ว

      im sorry mate the illaoi/heimer comment expose you as gold or lower and in those rank every champ are OP/useless depend on a coin flip

  • @depressoespressocomingup1810
    @depressoespressocomingup1810 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okay, your azir propaganda videos have finally got to me. imma try him out and hopefully i can restore glory to the empire of shurima
    edit: i got 3 insecs in one game i can see why you people suffer for this champion

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the spirit!

  • @erlandsabols1985
    @erlandsabols1985 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tbh i think azir is very easy low elo.

  • @i1bike
    @i1bike 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its not hard, its usless. No instant dmg, no instant cc, no instant mobility. Literally usless champ

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He does have instant damage, though, non-projectile ranged autos with up to 700 range

    • @i1bike
      @i1bike 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@minimoYT
      We must be living in different universes. But if we are not, try to quit those drugs that you are using, a warm advice

  • @chroberbober6559
    @chroberbober6559 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    every person saying hes hard to play is delusional

  • @epicgam3rxd564
    @epicgam3rxd564 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Minimo. I know this is extremely odd/weird to ask on TH-cam comments, but thats the only way I can contact you.
    I have been watching many of your Azir videos and Honestly im really interested in the champion. I have learned Kalista and reached Gold 1 with her. It seems like Azir promises more.
    May I have your discord. Id like to have your company during my learning stage. Sorry if this sounded weird cuz idk who asks for discord in TH-cam comments, but as I said, this is my only way of contacting you. Thanks💀

    • @minimoYT
      @minimoYT  ปีที่แล้ว

      So I'm not really the most qualified person to teach how to play Azir on the fly, most of what I say in videos is a product of research and compiling experiences from both myself and high elo Azir OTPs.
      If you want some solid advice, there's a discord server for Azir mains, r/azirmains is the subreddit for it. Best of luck!

    • @epicgam3rxd564
      @epicgam3rxd564 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@minimoYT alright, thank you