Stockfish analyzes the battle against machines│Deep blue vs Garry Kasparov game 2 1997 │Cheater?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello everyone! Today your favorite fish is analyzing the game between Garry Kasparov, considered one of the best , human, players of all time, against Deep Blue. This was a very controversial match at the time because some people think the engine was being assisted by a human. Is deep blue stockfishe's uncle? lol. I hope you all enjoy the video and have a great day.
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[The Infamous game 2 of the match between Garry Kasparov and Deep Blue in 1997]
[Event "Garry Kasparov vs Deep Blue: Game 2: Deep Blue - Kasparov"]
[Site "lichess.org/st..."]
[Variant "Standard"]
[Opening "Ruy Lopez: Closed, Smyslov Defense"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3 O-O 9. h3 h6 10. d4 Re8 11. Nbd2 Bf8 12. Nf1 Bd7 13. Ng3 Na5 14. Bc2 c5 15. b3 Nc6 16. d5 Ne7 17. Be3 Ng6 18. Qd2 Nh7 19. a4 Nh4 20. Nxh4 Qxh4 21. Qe2 Qd8 22. b4 Qc7 23. Rec1 c4 24. Ra3 Rec8 25. Rca1 Qd8 26. f4 Nf6 27. fxe5 dxe5 28. Qf1 Ne8 29. Qf2 Nd6 30. Bb6 Qe8 31. R3a2 Be7 32. Bc5 Bf8 33. Nf5 Bxf5 34. exf5 f6 35. Bxd6 Bxd6 36. axb5 axb5 37. Be4 Rxa2 38. Qxa2 Qd7 39. Qa7 Rc7 40. Qb6 Rb7 41. Ra8+ Kf7 42. Qa6 Qc7 43. Qc6 Qb6+ 44. Kf1 Rb8 45. Ra6
0:00 intro
1:00 game starts
5:05 stockfish line 1
6:25 stockfish line 2
7:10 controversy
8:58 question mark
9:30 easy line that could save black
10:26 Game review chessCom
th-cam.com/video/TtJeE0Th7rk/w-d-xo.html this game would be interesting to feature
Is this channel controlled by a human? Or is stockfish uploading and editing?
@@thenoob3024 i am sure this stockfish is assisted by a hunam , no engine would hate people and none of it could write a dialog like that :)
@@TymexComputing Yea i'm sure stockfish would be indifferent about humans, if it even were aware of our existence somehow.
Hi friend Stokfish, please answer this question, i think you can analyze it very well.
The position at 9:43, lets pretend
everytime black can check white, black will do it.
Can White escape the checks so that the white king is not in check anymore?
Ah yes, a game from the times when engines were accused of using humans and not the other way round
Lol
hahahha exactly
🤭🍺
I like how Stockfish is like,
"There was an obvious line here-" And then says like 50 moves in a row.
Lol
1997: Wow, the supercomputer has beaten the Kasparov model human! This is the best chess that ever has been played and arguably the best chess that will ever be played. (Well, anyway, when Rybka comes, progress in chess will be basically over and the pinnacle will have been achieved.)
2022: Guys you won't believe how terrible that game was.
This is funny but in all fairness, whoever in '97 said those things?
@@vivvpprof Actually, a lot of people said that chess would be solved with deep blue, I clearly remember it since I was a kid and saw a lot of news about it. This was a common feeling among players since some lines were very repetitive with draws and a lot of GMs encored Bob Fischer's words from decades ago that the openings studies would destroy chess
Terrible for stockfish, not humans
Why was kasparov playing as black 4 times. kasparov should have the white pices 3 times if the match goes all the way.
How it should have been for fairness: kasparov, game 1 as white, game as 2 black, game 3 as WHITE!!!, game 4 black, game 5 white, game 6 black.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
1997: "The machine is too good to be true, I bet it must be using some humans!"
2022: "That player is too good to be true, (s)he must be using pocket Stockfish!"
Why was kasparov playing as black 4 times. kasparov should have the white pices 3 times if the match goes all the way.
How it should have been for fairness: kasparov, game 1 as white, game as 2 black, game 3 as WHITE!!!, game 4 black, game 5 white, game 6 black.
"We even call him a grandmaster and he hates it"
There was a game I think back in year 2000, maybe 2001 (?), played online and named, "Kasparov vs. the World." It was a game in which people could follow the moves and vote for the next move. I believe it was moderated by Judit Polgar, but I could be wrong. Kasparov won, but there was a controversy. In the endgame, at a crucial moment, there were basically 2 good moves for The World to play. One of them was better than the other, but no one could agree on which. Rumors went around saying that someone hacked into the system and added votes to the least favorable move, leading to Kasparov's win when The World voted to resign a couple moves later. Debate followed, and, Kasparov essentially put the debate to an end by posting his own analysis. The analysis revealed he saw 20 moves deep, with multiple variations off the "main line." It was quite amazing! However, at the end of his analysis he proclaims, "And this position is better for me," or something to that effect. I believe he also said that either way, he was winning? Anyway, chess experts chimed in, saying that he was wrong about the position being better for him.
I ALWAYS WONDERED IF HE WAS RIGHT. I also always wondered if someone hacked into the server. It would be interesting to see Stockfish's analysis.
It was Irina Krush, not Judit Polgar. Kasparov's calculation had an error but his conclusion was right: Both moves would have lost the game.
@@eljanrimsa5843 Ah, ok. I just now looked it up, and, looks like Kasparov actually cheated by reading what they were saying in the chat room. He saw their analysis and everything they were thinking. He claimed he needed to have an advantage - in other words, he cheated. Look it up on Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_the_World
Why was kasparov playing as black 4 times. kasparov should have the white pices 3 times if the match goes all the way.
How it should have been for fairness: kasparov, game 1 as white, game as 2 black, game 3 as WHITE!!!, game 4 black, game 5 white, game 6 black.
Crazy how Kasparov resigned and didn’t see those +40 moves ahead to save the game.
Yeah bro how did he manage to not find that😂😂😂
The game had probably been saved with just seeing the black queen move to E3. Deep blue is not Stockfish. Deep blue showed us that deep blue can easily make blunders.
What can I say, Mr. Fish? You analyzing this game is like us trying to understand Stone Age paintings ... We can only emit hypotheses regarding what they were thinking back then!
"Hello lesser minds" well hello to you too😂
Excellent game selection for analysis!! Narrative is refreshing as always. "Stockfish for President"
"We call him a GrandMaster and he absolutely hates it"
Woah that was very instructive, it's amazing how the little details in the position make sense after fish explains it!
The most shocking thing about this game is that Kasparov resigned in a position where he could hold the draw.
What about the 1977 game where Bobby Fischer squashed the Greenblatt supercomputer in only 21 moves? I bet Stockfish would get pretty worked up over that one.
Hold your horses, I want live few more days before humanity end sir.
"Supercomputer"! 😅😅😅
"resigning was a terrible blunder" 😂
DipBlue made the only blander. He is truly a “grandmaster”
Hey Stockfish, you gotta respect your elders buddy 🤣🤣
I love the quote in this video which is inspired by the quote from breaking bad “What kind of man speaks to the DEA? No man. No man at all”-Gustavo Fring
"We even call him Grand Master and he absolutely hates it" 😂
Hi Mr. Stokfish, please analyze for us the following one:
Nezhmetdinov vs Chernikov (1962)
1.e4c5 2.Nf3Nc6 3.d4cxd4 4.Nxd4g6 5.Nc3Bg7 6.Be3Nf6 7.Bc4O-O 8.Bb3Ng4 9.Qxg4Nxd4 10.Qh4Qa5 11.O-OBf6 12.Qxf6Ne2+ 13.Nxe2exf6 14.Nc3Re8 15.Nd5Re6 16.Bd4Kg7 17.Rad1d6 18.Rd3Bd7 19.Rf3Bb5 20.Bc3Qd8 21.Nxf6Be2 22.Nxh7+Kg8 23.Rh3Re5 24.f4Bxf1 25.Kxf1Rc8 26.Bd4b5 27.Ng5Rc7 28.Bxf7+Rxf7 29.Rh8+Kxh8 30.Nxf7+Kh7 31.Nxd8Rxe4 32.Nc6Rxf4+ 33.Ke2 1-0
Thanks
Matteo
LOL your commentary is legendary!
Love you Stockfish
Another superior demonstration.beautiful to watch.
Well, actually, Garry Kasparov won the game against deep blue, but the deep blue team wanted a rematch, which is what this game was.
What will Stockfish 15 think of Kasparov vs Topalov in 1999? Often considered the best human game because of a certain line that seems to require superhuman calculation.
Million thanks Stockfish you are pure objeyive reality, and you channel is simply THE BEST thank you very much
“you play like this against me and I will cause you emotional damage” 🤣
Glad you made a deep blue game! Great video! You could do game 6 with SF taking over after Nxe6
Please, comment garry casparov vs veselin topalov game. Where there is a famous combination, beginning from RD5 as i remember.
Question mark Question mark
?? Dubious move
I called in sick to work to watch both matches of Kasparov and your Uncle Deep Blue;All twelve games on a dial up modem. There was a wild theory that there were multiple Grandmasters in different rooms playing/teaming up to beat Kasparov and Deep Blue would choose the most popular move. I was playing with your Great Grandfather Radio Shack 2150. LOL
Kindly upload all famous games with analysis by stockfish It's really interesting and helpful.
"Emotional Damage"
I always wonder what stockfish would say if he saw my chess games 💀
Look at the accuracy - only 87%. In the Candidates Tournament 2024, we were routinely seeing 90+%, sometimes player going as high as 97-98%. And this is KASPAROV playing as the human player. It shows just how much chess has changed in the era of engines and memorisation.
"U try to play like this with me an I will cause u emotional damage"
"He is considered a disgrace to our family." lol
This is absolutely hilarious man kind of reminds me of Max headroom back in the day
Love this channel, all hail the engine overlords
I hope for a match between stockfish 15 vs Alphazero soon. Thanks for the video 🙏♥️
Next week there will be one of these, probably one of my losses, I mean, my brother's losses.
@@Stokfish 😂🤣🤣🤣
Who else laughed at Gustavo frings quote lol
Wtf, this is the best chess channel name ever
Thx Daniel. Great video again.
09:10 the way he shakes his head :)))
Hello, you have great series sir, thank you! Can you tell me, what do you use for a Robot face on your videos? Is there an app for that, or what is it? Thanks in advance!
Hello. can you make a video about Wesley So vs Maxime Vaschier-Lagrave at st. louis 9lx event. I read some article that Wesley do some unorthodox move that even engine(even you Mr. Stockfish) didnt predicted his sacrifice. Sorry for the wrong grammar Im just only a mere human.
A move that I can't see?! That's impossible! I will take a look at this game. Thanks for the suggestion.
0:12 kim jong un to his uncle probably
I never knew they played chess
Being unwilling to release the logs always smelled. I remember the accusations included that IBM not releasing prior games played by Deep Blue and that Deep Blue was programmed against Kasparov rather than as a chess engine.
You have no idea how much analysis would be required for humans to analyze the logs. The fact that the channel owner upvoted your comment shows that they also have no idea.
@@dannygjk just use another engine to analyse
@@noobiamyes4853 That is besides the point. You apparently have no idea that using another engine to analyze the game won't enable you to with 100% certainty determine whether there was human interference.
@@dannygjk It's not that hard, all they had to do was test the program against different games.
@@puppergump4117 It is pretty much impossible to prove guilt or innocence but the onus is on the accuser to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
The Future Chess Engine says, Deep Blue is my Grand Father, Stock Fish is my Uncle., Deep Blue is weak Engine, Stock Fish is just Average Engine, me is The Best Engine!.
@stokfish Hello, these are cool videos, keep it up! I'm just wondering how did you make the robot face?
you can start playing and commenting your live games... just like hikaru and the rest do it.. that would be lots of fun watching
"will he see it???Ofcourse not" hahahahaha
Pretty impressive to take over the resigned position.
Still laughing at 'While white is desperately trying not to win, black is desperately trying to lose' 😂
0:00 intro - Stockfish android: "Hello lesser minds" in sotto voce at the commencement of the video.
LOL
I have always believed that Kasparov lost so badly bc he was being assisted by incredulity. He didn't believe an engine could beat him so he kept fighting the engine and a ghost instead of just playing over the board. Yes, I believe blue was as good or slightly better at that point but Kasparov fought it like a human.
I love the commentary 😂
This is not checkers, lol! Funny!
I never knew that Deep Blue was Stockfish's Uncle. LOL!
Plz made analysis on Paul Morphy games. Not just the opera game but there are so many gems by paul Morphy
Paul Morphy will be roasted soon. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Stokfish looking forward to it fish 😏
Great video!!
bro would if stockfish has become so smart that he has created his own youtube channel and animates himself and none of us know and think its a human doing it
the fact that stockfish speaks like a human trashtalker
I’m surprised how 100 Eli can beat a 2k Elo person lol
lol
Well from what I heard they dismantled him after the games and put up his remains in some kind of museum
Oooomg!!!! Back then i was in primary school... the whole planet talked about this game...about Kasparov s ability....and today what.....after 25 years he analysis the game by both sides saying the time such a failure....and no see at any move a positive thing???? I cant believe it!!! May be there was a hidden side even back then regardless chess itself being an ancient game on how chess can be approached nowadays..
That was nice to see that mighty Garry Kasparov is being trolled 🤣
Stocky I hope the rumours about uncle deep being dismantled are untrue and he's alive and well, living the good life in the Bahamas..🌞
@Stokfish Hi Stockfisch, I typed a question wrong last time. This is my question:
The position at 8:54, lets pretend white moved his king to h1 or h2. and then black plays black's rook to b8, and then white plays white's rook to a6, and then black plays black's queen to e3.
everytime black can check white, black will do it.
Can White's king escape the checks so that the white king is not in check anymore?
And if white's king can escape, what side had the best chance to win, black or white?
Hi. White is still winning, after queen to e3, white must take the bishop on d6, best for black now is not even keep checking, consider white's king on h2, and let's say, queen to f4 check, just g3, white's bishop is hanging, but black rook is also hanging, if you want to keep checking, after queen to f2 check, just bishop to g2 and there is no more checks. There are many other lines of course
@@Stokfish In the 2 positions in my previous comment, if black plays the absolute best moves hoping to get a position where black can check forever in every move, then black still can't get a position where black can check forever in every move? As you see, this question is better than my last question.
This stockfish guy has some good moves in humor :D
The gustavo fring quote
Could you do analysis on stockfish games against alphazero where stockfish lost
It's amazing how stockfish uncle plays better than me with an elo rating of 100
You're the man Stockfish.
In this case would be "machine" 😂
Very laughing lecture uncle 🤣
The Deep Blue match was even after 5 games but Kasparov blundered in game 6 and lost the match.
How about a few Capablanca games?
Stockfish: ha ha human are silly
Human: what is 2+2
Stockfish: sorry sir I overestimated my power of calculation 😓
you try to play this to me and i will call you emotional damage😂😂😂😂😂
Kasparow was assisted by an engine in Kaspa vs. World game :)
I'd like to know what rankings do you estimate they would be nowadays @stockfish ?
Dear Stockfish, I don't like you to "humaniate" the humans. Manners or we will plug you out! :D
I love the "or nots"👌🏿
comon lets have more this is priceless!
@Stockfish *special request, in going forward I'll reference you as SF, I'd love your take on some of the sacrifices made by Tal & of course Fisher, looking forward to your content & special thanks to the humans putting this together for you [wonder what you'll be like once you've integrated into a form like a Tesla bot] have a nice day
stockfish going to turn to rainbow
I wonder if 30 years down the road the engines will make fun of this version of Stockfish just like it makes fun of Deep Blue.
Definitely
Hello Mr. Fish. I am wondering if one day someone from your young brothers makes similar review comments about your games. Like any other software, you going to be fixed and improved in next releases, right? What do you think??
If it was 2022, kasparov would have withdrawn from the tournament, tweeted a video of Mourinho insinuating that IBM was cheating, and then would keep silent for weeks.
hahaha
Commentary is hilarious
4:28 and forth - "emotional damage" ROFL
Funny guy. Love watching your videos!
This is pure magic!
When did Kasparov have 2862 rating? His peak was 2856...
Thanks for the correction. I might have put a rating performance from a tournament. Sorry about that! Hope you enjoyed the video!
@@Stokfish yes, the video was awesome! Keep up with the amazing work!
@@Stokfish Do you make mistakes?
Why is it so odly sattisfying to get roasted by a AI? LOL
"Hello lesser Minds" 😂😂😂
If Gary thought that he was playing a human he would not of given up.
5:38 "Obviously"
Try to solve Plaskett's puzzle
Deep Blue was assisted by Hans Niemann's uncle.