Was Alberto Santos-Dumont the Real Inventor of the Airplane?
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A thoroughly charming story! He may not have won the prize, but he was surely heroic, regardless.
Albert Santos Dumont wanted an accessible time piece to time hi flights while in the air. Henri Cartier made a wrist watch for him. The model was named “The Santos”. Still available today and probably their most popular model. The current design has changed little from the original. Albert stills lives on among the high flying jet set.
I am ecstatic to learn about this gigga-chad legend of a man! A true hero that Brazilian people should be extremely proud of! The whole planet should celebrate a man of such awesome character!!
I’m Brazilian and can confirm that we’re taught in school that Santos-Dumont invented the airplane. I was already an adult when I found out the truth.
The sad thing is, because of that and the attention it gets, most Brazilians end up not knowing all the actual amazing accomplishments of Santos-Dumont.
Thank you for portraying him fairly, a sad ending but an amazing life.
I'm Brazilian and I can confirm that I wasn't taught in school that Santos-Dumont invented the airplane. I was an adult when I found out that the Wrights developed a motorized glider and only got to the airplane stage in 1908.
I'm also a Brazilian and wasn't taught on school Santos Dumont invented the airplane, but was actually taught about all his other inventions, including the wrist watch. Today, as an Adult I know for sure he did invented it, and not those dumbass brothers with they slingshoted bicycle
I’m just discovering Santos-Dumont, and that says lots about the dominance of the USA in popular culture. Be proud of your great country Brazil!
Everyone knows that Big Brother invented the airplane.
When you mention the Wright brothers, why do you keep showing Glenn Curtis's airplane?
Cause the Wright's catapultplane doesn't look as cool, maybe.
In other words, no, but he did plenty of other stuff he SHOULD be remembered for.
Dumont looks like an old timey Howard Wolowitz
🤣🤣🤣👍👍
*Wow* I had never heard of him & his accomplishments.
In Brazil this is a sensitive topic, let's see the comments... 👀
It sure is. They don't have many claims to fame, unless it's related to soccer or Carnival.
@@bretlingIt's called futbol. 😂
While Dumont may not have been the first to fly an airplane successfully, his later achievements are noteworthy and should not be understated.
He developed the ultralight aircraft which millions of people around the globe enjoy to this day.
Like with the Wright brothers, he was a tireless pioneer of aviation who rightfully deserves remembering alongside the Wright brothers and other pioneers.
In my mind the people of Brazil do have a hero of aviation in him and have every right to be proud of his achievements.
@@MikkellTheImmortal They do, they just shouldn't make claims that aren't true.
@@DaPikaGTM that I agree with. Tell his true story and the world will give the respect deserved.
I appreciate that you give Dumont his deserved credit for the work he did. He was a good designer and a good man.
But the video has a few flaws, the aircraft you show when you mention the wrights is not one of their early planes, and it isn't even a Wright plane at all. It is a design from years after the Wright's initial work, but stealing their ideas on roll control.
As for the Wrights using a catapult launch, their first flight was made in 1903, on an extremely cold day at sea level. The air was about as dense as air gets under natural conditions. When they decided to perfect what they had learned back home in Ohio, which was higher in elevation, their engine was not powerful enough to get them into the air without a long ground run. The field they had at their disposal was not graded smooth. It was just a bumpy, grassy, field used for grazing cows. They did not have the time or motivation to smooth a large enough area to provide them with a suitable airstrip. And the field's owner would not have appreciated them stripping grass off of his cow pasture. The brothers decided that a catapult would get them into the air with a very short ground run. They would lay a wood track on the ground pointing into the wind at the time of their take off.
The point of all of this is that the brothers had been perfecting the control system of their aircraft, not their airstrip, not its landing gear, and not its engine. They succeeded at perfecting the control system, and they were the first to do that by a large amount of time. In fact, it wasn't until after news of the Wrights flights that other people had thought to add any kind of roll control device to their experimental planes, and that included Dumont. The Europeans were sure that the Wrights were frauds, the newspapers called them 'bluffers' before they saw one of their planes fly for the first time in 1908. They kept scoffing right up to the point the plane actually flew and made multiple controlled changes in direction and elevation. By the time the plane had landed, the catapult was forgotten. The thing that stood out in everyone's mind was that none of them had ever made controlled turns with their aircraft, and the Wrights had perfected a system that easily did what they could not. Lighter, more powerful, engines were available by then. Stout but light wheels for landing gear were also available. Anybody with an iota of mechanical ability could have put a better engine in the Wright plane, and swap the skids for wheels. They all understood that. The Wrights solved a problem that they did not even see as a problem that needed to be solved. They didn't add roll control to their list of things they needed until after the news reports of the Wrights had described theirs in a very rough way.
Interesting, thank you!
tldr?
Dumont's machine was built around a very common misconception that most people working to develop powered flight believed at the4 time. They were all trying to engineer an aircraft that was inherently stable like a boat on the water. The Wrights were the first to realize that an airplane should be viewed as inherently UNSTABLE like a bicycle. Dumont's plane had fairly extreme dihedral wings to try to make it more stable. This makes a plane that can fly straight, for the most part, but is difficult or impossible to turn and almost uncontrollable in a cross wind. The Wright's plane actually had wings with a slight anhedral angle. This causes the plane to turn into a crosswind instead of away from it. It also makes changing direction much more responsive. The Wrights had teh correct theories to make powered and controlled flight possible.
The 14-bis was quite unstable. Santos Dumont got some time to get used to it.
@@ErickSoares3 I never said it was stable. I said that it was based on the flawed concept that inherent stability was possible. It is not.
@@rayceeya8659 Oh dear. So all the model aircraft I have designed that are fully controllable but will fly hands off are imagiunary?
Get an education in aeronautics before you make an even bigger fool of yourself
John William Dunne showed a plane can be stable in level flight and turn well, and along the way designed a plane with no tail and swept wings. Became the first plane a pilot could take their hands off the controls and it would fly straight and level with no input.
Are you an engineer? Your post is absolutely accurate in discussion of aerodynamics.
Been to Jules Verne's house (now museum) in Amiens. Very cool stuff like an indoor garden, attick with items mentioned in his books as a massive office with desks with maps.
Honestly have never heard of the fellow, though his last aircraft is familiar to me, at least in passing.
I'm deeply aware about Santos-Dumont biography: there are a few mistakes in the video (like messing up the wristwatch timeline and how it is not well known if he really had multiple sclerosis), but I found it quite respectful to his memory.
Regardless of anything else this man is a human hero for pushing the limits of what humans knew where possible at the time
You can see a Demoiselle fly at the Shuttleworth collection in the UK, alongside a Bleriot monoplane and other ‘Edwardian’ aircraft.
Even today, Brazil is a significant player in aviation. Embraer is the third largest producer of civilian aircraft after Boeing and Airbus (according to Wikipedia at least), and having flown on several of their passenger jets, as a private pilot I can attest to their consistency and quality design work. Brazil is definitely overlooked when it comes to high end manufacturing in aviation.
The topic must be realized as a seemingly never-ending debate over terms which are seldom, clearly defined.
The frequently dismissed "pure" definition which awards the most complete accomplishment to the Wrights, (Simon mentions it, but not thoroughly enough) is "control about the longitudinal axis of flight", aka the most important missing piece of the early 1900s puzzle until the famed twisting bicycle innertube box: the aileron, then known as wing warping.
The rudder to control movement about the (1) vertical axis was already quite well established and in use by all manner of boats, etc. Movement about the (2) horizontal axis was also fairly easily achieved with either fore (canard) or aft surfaces.
The freaking BIG MYSTERY, which only the Wrights accomplished, and which no one else envisioned was (3) the ability to roll the aircraft left and right in a completely controlled, repeatable movement.
The Wright's put everything together. Their approach was scientific and methodical. Extremely well documented. And no one else came close. They were well ahead of competitors, by years.
The most puzzling thing is that anyone sees it as a debatable issue well over 100 years later. All anyone need do is research the topic, and all answers point to the obvious conclusion:
The Wright brothers were first in powered, controlled heavier than air flight.
Case closed.
To debate it today is as silly as those who put their energy into debating whether or not NASA landed men on the Moon. Even more extremely well documented than the Wright brothers.
When anyone attempts to argue it, you only showcase your ignorance. Like the catapult angle. It shows how ignorant you are that their 1903 flights were accomplished with no catapult. That you were too lazy to simply look at the photos they took, which clearly show no catapult.
@dahawk8574 I spoke with the primary curator at the Natl Air & Space Museum and he said they continually go round and round over this topic.
In New Zealand 🇳🇿 we have the riddle of Richard Pearce... built his own engine aircraft and flew it in 190?
Is that ACE or BCE?🤣
The inventor of the aeroplane was a Yorkshireman, Sir George Cayley, a fascinating man who also invented bicycle spokes
Thank you for pointing this out, i knew of Santos-Dumon but not Sir Cayley! Oddly enough.. But i have now looked him up on-line and his engineering feats are remarkable 👍👍👍
I can't think of a single human achievement that anyone (or two) could claim to be their sole invention.
I think Edison has a few
@@maxstr Name one that wasn't based on decades of previous research!
Some more candidates- Copernicus, Pythagoras, Da Vinci
I believe this honor could be grsnted to Albert and Mileva Einstein
@@maxstr Struggling with reading comprehension I see! Pythagoras built upon Babylonian mathematics, Copernicus built upon Aristarchus who also used Babylonian mathematics and da Vinci never actually built anything but made conceptual drawings. Learn some science history!
Important to say Santos-Dumont never claimed to have invented the airplane or considered himself as an inventor. He considered himself as an sportsman and adventurer. He wrote that he created his heavier than air because with the one of just one of hist lighter than air airships he could make heavier than air for years. It must be noted that his first plane the 14-bis had no ailerons and he himself described the flight as "an accident under control". His second flight he adapted ailerons and created a weird control contraption sewing a broomstick on hist shoulders of his suit. It was a complete disaster. He mentions he was inspired to make airplanes by the works of some French Doctor that the name escapes me and he was never worried about who invented what.
The controls we know today are much more similar to the Wright Brothers' method of control.
But we can say he in fact invented open source: he wanted to popularize flight. After 14-bis flight he created a much better ultralight he called Demoiselle, this was a real plane and very safe and cheap monoplace one: he made the plans public so anyone could make one. A company began to mass produce them and they became popular: people used to go to the country with them the same way he used. In a sense he git what he wanted make flight popular.
I am avoiding the "who invented" question as I think no one alone did it: I love the Encarta Encyclopedia approach to it: it has a list of about 20 names and who contributed what to airplanes development.
The more interesting and important thing about Santos-Dumont was his character: he crashed an hotel with his airship and commanded from there hanging on the wall his own rescue, he was visiting friends that lost his cook just before a party and ordered his butler to make the food and when he refused he fired him and made the food for the party himself, getting the butler back one month later, he had lunch and dinner on a suspended table with the butler serving the food with a specially made stick, to get used to being hanging on an airship.
Think of him as Tony Stark without the women.
He committed suicide after trying twice being saved by his nephew: he had multiple sclerosis, but several members of his family also committed suicide. Brazilian biographies repeat the legend that he killed himself after seeing the airplanes being used in Brazilian Revolution of 32 (the year he died), but he had tried before it. Other biographies avoid talking about it as a tabu.
The bet biography I read of him (of about 6 I've read) was one written by a RAF Officer.
He had though a resentment about USA: once when he went to a competition of airplanes in USA when his planes was opened form the boxes to be assembles it was destroyed, being sabotaged. Other resentment was when he was already sick he mounted a small astronomic observatory in France and he was arrested and interrogated by French authorities for possibly being an spy during WWI, lets remember that he was a hero in France as much a a cinema star or famous sportsman are today. This made him very sad.
When he returned to Brazil he was received as a hero with thousands of people waiting for him in ships along the way.
And no he didn't invent the wristwatch: women already used them, he just created a model for his use in planes that he asked to his friend Cartier to make and in his typical way let him produce and sell without charging anything, this model is made to this day by Cartier and Dumont in Brazil.
PS yes I am Brazilian.
Predating the Wright Bros was Bill Frost from Wales and Gustav Whitehead in the US, Orville Wright went to considerable trouble to discredit Whitehead's claim of being the first, some might consider Orville's efforts rather suspicious.
Give this one the Spielberg.
This was uploaded a month ago too.
Yes
Finally.
Playback speed 0.75x recommended
Drunk Simon.
_Powered_ airplane? _Manned_ airplane? Or else it's more like Lilienthal and who knows who invented the paper plane. There even was a simple helicopter built from feathers, wood and string in the 19th century, which proved the concept of powered flight.
The papyrus plane was invented by ancient Egyptian.. 🤣🤣
So many comments, I hope I do not repeat the following message: I believe that Santos was the godfather of fliģht in France. He never kept a secret to himself and shared his knowledge freely with other airplane enthousiasts. The Wright brothers on the other hand had obtained a patent on the art of flying, so anybody who tried to build another aircraft in the US was sued by them. By 1908, when the Wright brothers came to Europe for a demonstration, they saw a flurry of European contraptions that all more or less flew. The Wright flyer was way ahead, but it barred the US in further developing airplanes. By the time WW1 broke out, the Europeans had far surpassed the Americans.
One of his advantages was his low weight.
Indeed, who weighs 41Kg? 🤣🤣 Not me that's for sure!
The first airport in Rio is named after him
no one mentions that around the 17 minute mark a certain c s rolls who is worthy of his own video
Richard Pearce
He answers his own question. Its a no. 😂
Didn't Hiram Maxim make the first heavier than air powered flight in the world?
Gustave Whitehead flew much earlier
What about the OG Percy Pilcher?! 😢
Ao esrly the bots are still here
What the fudge are you talking about?
yes, he was.
'Urban Explorers'?
Wait!
The Wright Bros did not invent the airplane first?
Alberto Santos-Dumont conducted his first officially observed powered flight on October 23, 1906, in France. During this flight, his 14-bis aircraft flew approximately 60 meters at a height of two to three meters.
Traian Vuia made his first flight on March 18, 1906. During this flight, his Vuia 1 airplane lifted off the ground at Montesson, France, reaching a height of about one meter and covering a distance of approximately 12 meters before landing.
As far as I know these were the first self propelled flights (without the assistance of a catapult or sliding downhill).
Wright flights at Huffman Prairie in mid 1904 were on flat ground, and they didn't start using the catapult until Sept of that year.
@@parkerengines But it is possible to proof that they did it?
@@ErickSoares3 The photographs, eye witnesses, log books, and surviving planes are pretty good proof
@catalinfpgaguru112, if you are trying to say Santos-Dumont or Vuia achieved flight before the Wrights I suggest you should watch Greg’s airplanes and automobiles before you say anything else. I look forward to hearing your debate with Greg. Keith Besherse
All I am trying to say is that Vuia achieved flight before Santos Dumont
So in short, the answer to the question in the video title is... === NO ===.
There, I saved you 20 minutes of your life.
Wow, you really got the point of this video huh?
if there were other inventors before wright brothers america and you will come to take credit for their works
A Santos would definitely claim to have invented airplanes.
Depends if he is. Is he the underdog?
The unfortunate result of people persisting in their statements that Santos-Dumont was the first to invent the airplane is that this false assertion overshadows all the many things he DID do for aviation.
Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles channel has a very detailed and comprehensive video addressing all the arguments normally cited when this discussion arises: th-cam.com/video/SgoPPg8oVt8/w-d-xo.html
One of the main points he makes is the importance of the propellers. No one else understood the propellers. Look at any photos of any aircraft of the period, and you will see the drastic change from those before and those after the Wrights demonstrated their flier in France, even Santos-Dumont.
Long story short, to save you 20 minutes-- Yes, Santos-Dumont invented the airplane about a year after the Wright brothers invented their catapultplane.
Was the audio recorded in the toilet/bathroom? You and your team can do better.
Mad lad:
You’re inviting Brazil with this video. So… Come to Brazil! 😀😀
I agree, the Wright brothers were first, but their secrecy meant their achievements were more rumor than news. Unlike today, there was no Instagram or Twitter to spread the word. Santos-Dumont’s 14-bis was quite different from the Wright brothers’ plane, suggesting he didn’t copy them. Instead of selling his Demoiselle plans to the military, Dumont published them in Popular Mechanics, thwarting the Wrights’ exclusive patent plans. Like Edison, who popularized the light bulb and phonograph, Dumont’s significant contributions helped popularize airplanes.
A: No. (Read a book on the Wright Brothers like David McCulloch’s to understand why.)
in Autralia its Lawrence Hargrave
The 14-bis boxed wings were based upon Hargrave research.
G,'day,
Bullshit.
Lawrence Hargrave repeated earlier work measuring the Lifting power of Flat Plane versus Cambered (Curved) Plane Surfaces...
Then he invented the
Box-Kite, and after that he did a lot of experimentation on Ornithopters, versus really badly designed Propellers, and while so engaged he build some fascinating Compressed-Air Engines (versus Clockwork) to power the Propellers and Wing-Flapping.
The biggest (forgotten) thing he did - apart from building Human-carrying Kites...; was his Invention of the Rotary Aero-Engine - running in Compressed-Air, with one Cylinder at the hub-end of each one of the Propeller's 3 Blades.
Later, the Gnome brothers in France would make a lot of money building and selling Petrol-powered Rotary Aero-Engines.
Santos Dumont's "14-Bis" was essentially a collection of
Hargrave-type Box-Kites built side-by-side for both the Main Wings and Horizontal Stabiliser ; in a "Canard" layout with the Main planes at the rear end of a Pusher-design.
His later Demoiselle was a much more practical and functional design, and,
"The 8-Hp, 1975, Red Baron Skycraft Scout ; World's 1st Legal Minimum Aircraft"
(Search YT for that, to see it)
Greatly resembles Santos-Dumont's Demoiselle.
For a more recent Video about the Scout, try,
"National Transportation Museum ; Visiting My First Aeroplane...!"
The first Powered, heavier-than-Air Flight ever made in Oz..., was made by Harry Houdini, in Melbourne, after charging for Admission for Crowds to buy Tickets, to watch his performance...
In New Zealand, Richard William Pearse was able to rise off the ground in his attempt at inventing an Aeroplane in April 1903 (6 months BEFORE the Wright's at Kittyhawk...) which featured an Engine of his own design and construction, and using the Ailerons which he had already patented, also in 1903...; however "Mad Dick Pearse" didn't fit his machine with any kind of Fin or Rudder, so it was totally uncontrollable.
Every time he got it off the ground, the uncorrectable "P-Factor" yawed it Left, and then he crashed it onto the top of the Gorse Hedges which Kiwi Sheep-worriers used, back, then as Fences (and Pearse's Hedges were left untrimmed, standing 8 to 12 ft high - due to the amount of time which he spent tinkering with Flying Machines, rather than farming Sheep).
Renegade Wannabe Kiwis do like to pretend that Pearse "flew before the Wright Brothers" but they ALWAYS omit the point that every time he got off the ground he was
TOTALLY out of control - and thus merely travelling directly to the scene of the resulting Crash....(!).
Septic Tanks (Yanquis) who want to pretend and tell lies about the topic..., usually claim that Samuel Langley's "Aerodrome" (which was photographed twisting it's own badly-designed Wings off, before leaving it's Catapult - which was thus engaged in throwing the Wreckage out over a River, while attempting to launch it...;
Or they cite Gustave Weisskopf/Whitehead's Acetylene-powered Boat-looking Construction..., repeating stories that it was Airborne, controllably, before Wilbur & Orville.
However, it turns out that Chemistry teaches that using Acetylene as a Fuel-Source for Aero-Engines is not possible - because the Energy-Density of Acetylene is not sufficient to yield enough Power to propel any Airframe big enough to lift the Engine..., fast enough to rise off the Ground...
So, Whitehead's Fan-Club are all living in Fantasyland.
Pearse's Cheer-Squad only quotes half the story...
And Hargraves never patented ANYTHING which he did, and he published it all ; so EVERYBODY from Percy Pilcher through Otto Lillienthal, Octave Chanute, Wilbur & Orville and Santos-Dumont...,
ALL of them were aware of Hargrave's work, corresponded with him, and they were guided by his findings.
Richard Pearse, on his Sheepfarm, worked alone - guided only by the Encyclopaedia Britannica, in his local Municipal Library.
Nobody in Oz claims that Hargrave was the "first to fly".
In 1936 the Sydney Museum of Science & Technology produced a small thin little book titled,
"The Aeronautical Works of Lawrence Hargraves..."
If you look into my Playlist titled "Personal Aeroplanology", I read the entire publication to Camera, in a two episode Series.
If you're going to enter this discussion, you might like to backtrack a bit, and start with the actual facts...(?).
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
BRAZILIAN MENTIONED!!!
Hahaha, i heard it best when some guys said in a podcast overr here years ago: Santos Dumont was the inventor of open-source
I think an updated logo would be something because at the moment, especially with fact boy doing so much other fresher content on his other channels, it’s giving old people vibes
We got OUR OWN EPISODE! Brasil-sil-sil! 🇧🇷 Aberto is revered here in our country. We feel compelled to defend his legacy.
8:02, that looks like a flying turd.
Short answer: no. Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOO
No, he was not
Hey Simon, William E. Elmore retired from McDonnell Douglas Aircraft Company as Director of Advanced Fighter Aircraft Designs and Chief of Liaison. He was my uncle. I ask him the exact question you ask in your documentary. He said the Wrights were NOT the first to create a flying machine, that was heavier than air. But, the Wrights were the first to create a flying machine with controlable moving surfaces. The Wrights at first called it wing-warping. Over time they and others that followed developed flaps and a rudder. Before the Wright brothers flying machines could not stear on a course. Uncle Bill and his design partner invented the F-3J airplane. It was re-badged to be F-4 Phantom II jet fighter. They built the very first F-15 on the floor in front of their offices, with their own hands. Bill wrote a number of books about aircraft, that remain unpublished because photos of plane are still under copywrite. When Bill passed in 2018 he was without a doubt the foremost living expert on derigables and a leading authority on biplanes. If he were here today, Bill would say you nailed this question.
John Joseph Montgomery flew in his first manned glider in 1883, well before the Wright brothers or Lillenthal started their flights.
That was a glider there were many people testing gliders, even the Wright Brothers! When he put a motor on it was after the Wright Brothers! They had a MOTOR, IT WAS POWERED FLIGHT a big difference, not a glider!
Short answer. NO.
Audio on this channel sounds like You record on a toilet. Wich i would respect , but the video shows its clearly not
And lets not forget Richard Pearce from New Zealand.....
For inventor of the first heavier than air aircraft, I'll see your Alberto Santos-Dumont and raise you a Percy Pilcher.
Dates not concrete
@@qazhr What's not concrete about being ready to fly on the 30th September 1899, 4 years and 78 days before the Wright brothers?
@@ma9x795 everyone called that a glider so you fail and he died when it crashed a few days later
@@qazhr You know half the story at best. His Hawk glider was very successful, surpassing the performance of Otto Lilienthal's gliders, but he realised that it did not produce enough lift to carry an engine. He designed and built a new aircraft which unlike the Hawk was a triplane, and was powered by a 3hp engine that he built himself. He was due to fly it as a demonstration to potential investors, but encountered engine problems.
To avoid a complete washout, he decided to demonstrate the Hawk instead. During the flight, likely due to a build-up of moisture, the Hawk suffered a structural failure and crashed, ultimately killing him.
The already-built powered aircraft remained in situ untouched until it rotted away.
A replica of it has since been built and successfully flown.
@@ma9x795 still does not beat the wright brothers
Any inventions coming out to Brazil is laughable ha ha
yay im early
No, the inventor of the airplane was Gustav Whitehead, debatably his first flight was in 1899, his definite first flight was in 1901. The Wright brothers never flew until the second version of their aircraft, in 1908. This is using the Wright brother's own definition of 'flight', which is a good metric, despite how hard they tried and their family continue to try to cover up Whitehead's work.
I just bough a pair of Vessis. They’re good shoes, but their delivery is sloooooooooow.
As I've heard once, "Using a catapult, even a steaming pile of s**t can fly"
Duh Simon he built an actual plane
Not a single replica of the Flyer I (or II ) ever flew. There are no videos or actual proper reports from before 1908. All witnesses reports are questionable. The Brothers weren't the ones to invent a heavier than air controllable aircraft. Their machines did NOT have enough power to sustain flight on its own either WITHOUT A STRONG HEADWIND. An airplane that can only fly with strong headwind is a glider with an ornamental engine. The inefficient chain transmission, underpowered engine and gear ratio spinning at an abysmal slow 490rpm are what made the Flyer's not capable of sustained heavier than air flight. Photograph is not evidence without headwind data. Put a replica of Flyer 1 gaining altitude with zero wind, then we talk.
No. Next.
It was DaVinci
I really can't listen to you. As I have told you before you gabble too much ! !
Just like Gustave Whitehead
Could have flew a plane before the wright brothers
No. 21
Even his reproduction could get airborne
@@Clancydaenlightened the repop was heavily modified, especially the propeller. Other than a powered hop it did not fly
Of course Dumont invented a real airplane. Angry Birds are not airplane
The Wright Bros didn't use a catapult for all their tests, they didn't even build said catapult until September 1904 after having performed several successful tests and were capable of taking off using sleds. Even if you want to argue about the first test, there is no reasonable argument to make that they hadn't invented the plane long Santos-Dumont made his glorified leap in front of a bunch of Frenchmen.
Yes
Yes.
Nah was Richard Pearse
If he did why didn’t make big news
Pearce himself never claimed to have and only claimed to have started after the Wright Brothers had made several successful tests.