"We're removing end card because seeing stats at the end of the game leads to toxicity, but we added a scoreboard where you can see everyone's stats whenever you want"
Honestly though the cards at the end of the game were kind of trash anyway. They weren’t really any measure of how well someone did, it was more like this Ana got the most healing, or that soldier got the most damage.
*to by all the old Overwatch 1 cosmetics it's over $12,000 for a new f2p player. Which is insane that assumes you buy the $100 discounted currency bundles too.
No way in hell I'm spending 38 weeks grinding for 1 old legendary skin. I'm glad I got a ton of legendaries that I love and carried all my stuff over. I should've known there would be a catch. "Oh you can port everything over... but you can only get 60 coins per week and legendaries you don't have will now be 1900 coins instead of 1000 😈"
@@GoznerPeter well, out side of bragging rights, skins are one of the few tangible goals to reach through playing the game, at least in OW1. That is what kept a bunch of people playing after OW1 stopped getting big updates. It sparked interest into people during dry spells of the game or when nothing really happens that you're interested in. Take that away or make it painful to do, and you lose the interest of a lot of people.
I've seen my fair share of planned expansions to games becoming sequels, but I can't say I've ever seen an update for a game marketed as a sequel before.
I've seen worse, downgrades to a game being called sequels (Destiny 2). At least they turned that game around, but anyone who remembers pre-Forsaken D2 will tell you it was literally just D1 but worse and with less in every area.
Can I just point out the irony of a company known for sexual harassment cases promoting diversity and equality through their heroes. Maybe get more heroes in your workspace first, the message would feel slightly more genuine, Bobby.
This video gets funnier now that blizzard have Just completely killed the main pve mode they advertised for years that was meant to give a fucking reason for this game existing lmao.
This comment illustrates exactly how things keep getting worse. When Blizzard starts harvesting children's organs we'll all say "I miss the days when all they did was sell cyanide".
Be honest. With the fact that overwatch was dying and quite literally falling from grace. Will it be more appealing to bring back players if they said Overwatch 1.158.6? Or overwatch 2 is more attracting?
@@rmhminiman they wouldn't have had to rely on such tricks, and OW1 wouldn't be dying, if they didn't pretty much leave it completely dead and without updates for years. All to release this "sequel" that's just an update in the end.
I think I've seen it before, at least as far as maps go. There is maybe a bit more to it. Like for example if you have too huge a map pool, the chance of some appearing will become statistically low. I don't actually know how this works in Overwatch (mostly random?), but some shooters also let players vote for next map. If players have some favorite maps and some they like less, then naturally the favorite ones will get voted repeatedly while the others are collecting dust in the map pool. You as a dev might then wonder why you should retain some older ones in the first place and unreasonably bloat up the map pool or the game itself when you at the same time also have to at least create some new maps to both give reason to releasing a sequel and accomodating a different team setup (5 vs. 5) and modes. That being said it could be worse, like a game removing content without releasing a sequel, see Destiny 2 and them having "vaulted" large chunks of content, some of which people had paid for.
After having a handful of jobs, I've realized that many businesses truly are held together by just a few people who understand the bigger picture and actually work hard to get there. I think Blizzard has lost a lot of those people.
Many, if not all, organizations are like this. Western gaming really feels the squeeze as the auteurs have all been ousted by their publishers, and new "talent" gets pushed in for quotas. The games themselves are just quotas now.
"toxic" really is a understatement in this case, their work environment has to be the most predatory, demeaning, nasty, degenerate and downright rapey i ever read about
I love it when you can display your achievements in video games, taking away the borders and stars really sucks, and taking away the medals feels like it ruins the flow almost
The thing is, achievements display shows your achievements, i.e. things that you have worked on and proven worthy of. They don't want you to be good and worthy, they want you to see other players' skins and envy them so that you'd be inclined to spend money on those skins (looking at you specifically here, MW2-2). These days you're supposed to brag with how much you spent, not how good you are.
The medal system sucked and encouraged toxicity. You could have gold damage and still play like shit but the player would simply refuse to listen because GoLd mEDaLs brO
@@yoanski2559 it's exactly the same with the scoreboard. "Dude you have less elims than me" - the Moira/Genji who does just 20 damage to a hero but got the kill, so they are obviously the best, despite not having a clue about what they are ment to be doing.
Very true but we can't expect anyone to parade behind an ideal if they're still having fun with said product. I wouldn't blame them either. Ignorance is B L I S S.
One of the most annoying parts of this "sequel" is the fact that skins cost real money, or 5% of your life's time, which is a lot. I would rather have loot boxes again.
@@salineaddict9850 nope, they gotta milk the game some how now that it's f2p and people aren't paying money for skins that were accessible through loot boxes
@@salineaddict9850 I've never seen anything saying that the single player was going to be free,last I checked it was going to be 40 bucks so do you want 2 legendary skins or a single player mode
@@badasscrusader I thought I had read that somewhere. I am probably mistaken. But I’d rather buy a single player mode, tbf. I bought way too many skins on Fortnite back in the day, and I won’t make mistakes like that again.
Let’s just be honest games just been getting killed over an over an while they killing the game they also playing us for our money an milking the in game store
They abandoned OW1 for 3 years since they were aparently working on PVE for OW2. Well, now PVE is officially canceled. OW2 was literally just an excuse to make the game free to play and lock heroes behind a battlepass
really glad you touched on the lootboxes before. while lootboxes generally suck in overwatch they used to actually be not that big of a deal because you could really grind a lot of them and unlocking many things without paying anything. this new shop is for sure worse than what it used to be
It’s mainly since like you said they weren’t too hard to grind and were cosmetic only. Unlike say the supply drops in COD games from AW through BO4. I’d always take paid only cosmetics over supply drops with weapons in them that change stats and make the game pay to win. But in this case, not only was it not that situation (so now there is no way at all to reasonably earn cosmetics instead of a flawed way, something is better than nothing, but it also is incredibly disrespectful to the people who bought the first game since you can’t just go back to it. Doubly so since you don’t earn credits back from the battle pass, forcing you to pay up every season.
Agreed. It was nice to know that whenever a new skin I really liked was released I could just grind the game a bit to either get a lucky pull or build up enough currency. Makes you fond of the times that games rewarded you for playing the game instead of just begging for your card info
@@spunch1205 Still doesn’t beat the relatively really old times when skins were for things like achievement rewards and skill based tasks rather than monetized… I miss those days when you paid $60 for the game and got the whole game, no questions asked, and it worked immediately from day one. Back in the Wii era (I was and still am a Nintendo person). I’m not positive if the 360 and PS3 era were mostly or totally like that, but it was probably better than now. It makes me really happy that games like Elden Ring, which is one of the very few non indie games to return to that style, sold so well. It gives me hope that we may someday return to that style of game. Sure some games be $70 due to inflation, but that’s totally reasonable imo for a complete well made game, especially with how much money goes into graphics now (Separate argument, but I think we’d have much better games if we took that money going towards graphics, made games look more cartoony (or lower poly) or pixelated and spent that time making amazing levels and mechanics rather than filling games with meaningless bloat and or grind. After all, just look at the incredible indie market nowadays)
@Calvin Robertson True. The difference here is that the loot boxes were free, the battle pass is not (or all the $20 separate skins jeez) That’s the problem. Plus they had dupe protection (for much of the game life anyway) and we’re cosmetic only. Something is better than nothing for free progression. ESPECIALLY for those who bought the first game and had it stripped from them. If we could play OW1 I’d have much less of an issue, since it’s still scummy, but at least you could earn stuff more for the first game and stay with it if you wanted, but you can’t)
I never thought that being able to play games for free would be one of the worst things to happen to gaming but the free-to-play model is really proving me wrong.
The irony of this is that when you play(ed) games for free "the old fashioned way" (yarrrgh) the worst thing that could happen was a hard drive reformat to get rid of the dodgy crap that scuttled over. Now when you play for free it can cost you your bank account and personal data, and that's not by some malware but the actual legit game itself.
@@abadenoughdude300 lol dude "Now when you play for free it can cost you your bank account and personal data, and that's not by some malware but the actual legit game itself." i gotta remember that comparison!
Genuinely. I did not think of this when I was younger and just liked games being free. Now seeing this is like “damn all this content from the past game that was free behind the game itself having a price tag is now locked behind a price tag perhaps 5 times higher and more so in the future for just the game being free”
I hate how many games are just becoming a second job. You wanna know where your game's toxicity comes from? Making your players hate it as much as a soul-crushing 9 to 5.
The worst is GTA5 online. God help you if you're a new player in 2023. This old ass milked to death game is about as rewarding as a minimum wage at McDonald's, and the open world is so toxic and filled with oppressors that you literally have to play it in a private lobby with reduced pay on missions. The missions aren't treated as part of the game, they just interrupt the actual fun you have messing around to go drive 30 minutes to the middle of nowhere so that you can get like 5000 dollars to work towards buying a doge charger that costs 2 million dollars 😂
I'll never understand why they removed medals, the on fire mechanic, post game cards, border levels etc to reduce toxicity, but then added a scoreboard where everyone can see how bad certain players are doing at all times
It's so that everyone can be held accountable, if I'm doing jack shit on my widow maker pick I can't shit on my support teammates since I'm not killing their threats.
@@Crit7k that answers the question of "Why add a scoreboard?". The question that was asked, though, was "Why remove medals if you aren't going to obfuscate the stats?". The reality is that they probably removed the medals, then realised during play testing that people don't enjoy having literally zero feedback or recognition for playing well, so added in the scoreboard to fix the problem they introduced. It is nonsensical to replace medals with a scoreboard for the purpose of lowering toxicity. The people who piss and whine now have permanent access to their team mates' stats which they can use as a weapon. At least with medals it only showed who did well, rather than who was doing badly. This stinks of some team lead demanding that medals are removed, and the devs below them introducing a work around that makes the problem worse because they have no choice.
Fun Fact: the "On Fire" mechanic was NOT removed actually, you can still hear the voice lines of it You can still earn fire by doing your average actions, its just the visual of being on fire was removed..? Im pretty sure what happened is when development started the first thing they did is port over the code, seems reasonable, but for some reason they did not wanted the on fire anymore so they removed the line of code for the lil bar but NOT the actual on Fire code soo yea.. If someone somehow finds it we can have a functional fire metter again.
I mean, this is literally just an update. They ported over 90% of the code at least. I'm loving OW2 so far in all honesty, but it's so clearly Overwatch 1 that the app that installs on your PC is called Overwatch. And not Overwatch 2 if you search for it.
Actually, it was removed last minute or something because the voicelines for it are brand new for the old heroes aswell as the old ones. So they not only went through the effort to get new voicelines, but also implement them and still left out the visual.
A video game is not just one big line of code. Most programmed applications take advantage of classes, and assuming that the visual function is removed, the class responsible for visually displaying the mechanic was disabled. Also I would bet that they removed the function because the mechanic did not accurate feedback, and leads players into the wrong direction in terms of skill.
They just don't want you flexing in any way possible. Can't have visual stimulus that makes you appear better than other players. Don't worry about whos good or not, just go check out the battle pass.
At this point i wouldnt be surprised if they just removed the lil sprite animation used for the on fire so it still plays but is invisible as asset isnt there.
I remember when game companies released games that were *complete* and didn't need live service, permanent internet connection, and were actually good.
I agree. The game has gone through some changes since launch. It's in a pretty good state now since Bobby got the boot. They still got a long way to go
@@ki11atj49 but how are you getting ripped off if it’s free though I do think they could’ve done more but the focus has always been pve even before the first overwatch came out when it was called titan
Honestly, my most hated change is removing endorsing opponents. I always loved the sportsmanship that came with it. Honestly i've made friends who were on the opposing team and we endorsed eachother on good skill. Thanks for the great video act man
Literally yesterday I fought a Sombra main who made our life's hell. Yet she literally played well and we could easily counter her by just thinking. It was a good type of getting beaten and I wasn't allowed to endorse them :/ At least I told them through chat
You can definitely tell the developers were forced to take the fastest possible path to release the game to market. According to Overwatch's lead creative director Bobby Kotick alone is responsible for the game being many many months behind schedule since he wanted them chasing trends implementing battlepass crap and stupid stuff from cod then constantly changed his mind. Entire teams of developers turned over citing Bobby Kotick as the main reason
How stupid are you people, so now the devs show up in comments to bullshit? Bobby kotic I bet he wouldn't even know or care about any blizzard devs why would he, mind you after this PoS I bet he took names.
@@Sebboebbo Even if he gets removed immediately I think it's written into the rules that he gets a ~$185 million dollar leaving check or something like that. My educated/researched guess is that it'll take awhile after they aquire ABK to slowly reduce his role as Microsoft takes more power. He'll probably get put on an advisor role of a console or something. Even though he has threatened to have his assistant killed and there are allegations of him protecting a person who committed a s*xûàl assault from being fired it seems people that high up never lose job security no matter how abusive they are if they're really good at that high end specialized job or making money there's always a place for them somewhere to hop to in the market
I don't like wishing death by prostate cancer on alot of people, because it's a horrible way to go. But to him and everyone like him, it would be the most merciful way I'd wish death upon someone.
"Don't buy anything from this game, until blizzard stops being a money first company, and starts being a player first company" Damn that gave me chills
Just don't play it. There are literally hundreds of games that respect your time more at this point. Let 5 y olds have their first game because they don't know any better and move on.
@@tormclean9657 "i've been having a blast" was usual argument for New World too for people blind to all of its problems. After half a year these "having a blast" people left. Just like 95% of others. You literally have entire video explaining in detail "why it's getting hate" if you still asking why it's getting hate then you are the problem.
Lets be honest, people dont care about endorsements, they are used to insult your tank for being being tanky enough, or dps not doing damage, or as a meme when your mercy does loads of damage or most elims or something dumb. Play of the games, endorsements, they are all things no one gives a shit about, never will and have never done. They are only used as evidence against someone whos being a dick and makes no difference at all. In fact it was hella annoying taking time out of my end screen timer and get back to the menu, so much so that you have to proactively leave the game in order to requeue, its more annoying than anything else.
@@Vrailik Damn right... Like if you didn't already paid 60$ for the game, why not to pay other 200$ in skins, the millionaire company really needs all that money for sure.
@@pixavier9746 We got 6 years worth of content for our $60 bucks. I think it's fair for the devs to be able to keep their jobs by producing a functioning profitable game. I bet you bought 0 loot boxes in those 6 years.
@@pixavier9746 I'm not a whale so I won't have all the skins but I'm not crying. For all we know the skins could get cheaper next season. It's OW first season as free to play.
The endgame cards are a big part of the reason I loved OW1. I’m not THAT great of a player but I could often contribute in ways that would put me on a card. Being on fire was an amazing visual confirmation to keep doing good. Player portraits told me how long someone has been playing and how good they were at a glance. Why were any of these removed? The benefits far outweigh the imagined downsides
I get people complained a lot about them, but the medals, endorsement system and endgame cards really were a huge part of why I enjoyed the game. It really sold a sense of community to the game for me. Like you, your team and the enemies could see and endorse a player's achievements in a game and really make them feel special. I remember how happy I was whenever I got 10 votes at the end of a match. Feeling like even the enemies appreciated how well I played. Now it just puts you to the battlepass and feels so much worse because of it
I really didn't like the medals because they had no real meaning and everyone was still so fixated on them (I'm not sure if the scoreboard is better though). Getting votes on your cards was nice though, it made having payload duty feel worth it. Removing endorsements from enemys feels weird too. On the other hand, i do like having faster queues after games (not having to leave the game after the potg to save myself 40s of waiting).
I saw it with Rocket League and the community went steadily downhill from there, imo. When they went from loot boxes to free to play, battle pass, and an item shop the community slowly warped into a cesspool by attrition. Its so funny to think back to the game a few years ago and the toxicity people complained about then, its 10 times worse now, the kind of people who become slaves to endless unlocks, battle pass progression systems, and item shops are not the most upstanding amongst gamers, ime.
@@Meta-Drew finally i see another person who thinks the same, the fucking free to play model ruined rocket league, since then i havent gett a single cosmetic, the battle pass is impossible to grind
I dunno, I watched Overwatch again, and I like it. I don't get the hate. HotS got 2.0 treatment as well, good games deserve getting more eyes on them once in a while. And it's f2p now. - Adûnâi
A financial "incentive" war. They are all out for quick cash grabs and giving their fans hot streaming piles of shite all for a good price at $100 ONO!
I've never played overwatch. I couldn't care less about this game I never thought it would entertain me in any way, but here I am, watching every possible video that mocks it's death, 10/10 amazing game.
Lootboxes are gone which cool but,like they kinda just removed the only way to get things in game entirely and just added a battle pass lmao,of course along a different tier of purchasable currency and a SHOP💀. Yeah,great
@@PomadaGaming y'know i was thinking about getting Overwatch 2 but now that i know it has a battlepass, gotta say its a hard pass. Battlpass ruined Halo multiplayer and now it might take a toll on Overwatch 2
@@Nick-ht5yi i'm aware, but i dont have the time to keep on battlepasses and i'd rather pay 60 dollars for a full game with possible dlc then get a game for free and have to pay over 60 just to keep up with the unlockable content and have the money possibly go to waste becauze i dont have enough time to play the limited time battlepass
The gameplay at large is very similar since it is the same game with some reworks, basically a major balance patch. I don't quite see how they "removed ow1".
@@all4me501 I can name on several people's hands the content that was moved behind another paywall since the transfer. I would have no qualms about the OW2 stuff being battlepass and the OW1 stuff staying earnable.
@@all4me501 I would still play Overwatch 1 for fun if it was still up. I would never have touched Overwatch 2 if I had that option. That’s a pretty substantial difference even if you want to make the argument “but it’s free to play!” With the route they took, there isn’t that choice, and now players are limited to this supremely subpar battle pass system, 5 v 5, paywalled cosmetics that could be reasonably earned prior, pay or play walled characters that were previously available to everyone immediately, etc.
Had this talk with my group of friends. It's no longer Blizzard, just Activision. The Blizzard we know and love went to the store to get some milk and is never coming back.
So here's the thing: No company will beef up their servers for a launch or expansion because they know a good chunk of people are sight seers who will go away in a week. Everyone learned from Wildstar that doing so is a recipe for going broke and being stuck with a bunch of servers you only needed for a month but are now stuck with and forced to deal with somehow. I suspect they know this, are aware their servers can't handle the huge influx of players and just plan all along to cry DDOS because Bobby needs that fat bonus.
One of my biggest issues with the first Overwatch (besides it's AWFUL matchmaking) was I barely felt a sense of progression or accomplishment when 80% of my progress was tied to hopefully getting a good skin from lootboxes. Their solution is removing borders, which basically made up the other 20% of progression, while throwing out lootboxes anyway so those rewards go out the window, ON TOP OF removing cards where you could at least see your better plays on a shitty team were noticed by SOMEONE, even if it was just the game measuring numbers. It's ABSURD
Yeah, as a Mercy main, I miss the cards at the end of the match. Healers are always under appreciated, so seeing my card get a ton of likes (from both teams) at the end of a match felt like vindication of a job well done. Now all I can hope for is an endorsement or two, which feel somewhat meaningless to be honest.
You can't even get endorsed by the enemy team anymore. You can see everyones stats all the time though, so it's not like the cards are needed. It's just like how you checked your own stats, only now it shows everyones, including the other teams, for... some reason.
@@t.r.2283 tthe problem is that you reach a barrier where you dont feel like your getting better and it can take 100s of hours to rank up, so small things to show progress just make the time where you arent making progress just a little better
The thing I absolutely hated the most was them taking the OW1 skins that were included in the $60 in the first game by earning them for free, are now $10-$20. It's scummy af and it's the worst thing I've seen a company do. Taking premade FREE things and just making them $20. I guess I'll never get anymore skins that I missed.
Man they should atleast make it possible for players who got the 60$ experience to unlock those skins for free by doing stuff. There are tons of event skins I missed out on because of that.
@@davidmccall4024 I like OW, stopped playing cus Blizzard thinks I, or any consumer, accept anything they do blindly. Never looked back since. Surprisingly, I am subbed to Act Man and watch mostly all of the videos posted here.
They also removed maps from the competitive and quickplay into a pool system that changes every season. The only "benefit"/reason I see why they are doing this is because they want it to feel fresh from season to season without having to actually add content into the game.
Well I don't know how many maps would you want to have in Ranked map pool then? I think at the moment there is 18? 5-5-5-3 (Control-Hybrid-Escort-Push) and they are excluding 4 maps currently I think. If we are getting new map every 2nd season also it would be close to 25 maps soon, which is actually a lot, if you just want to play more King's Row. I think sweet spot is much more closer to 4 or 5 maps per game mode for each season (if we have 4 or someday 5 different game modes?) which makes it 20 maps in "map pool" instead of somewhat 30+ in few years. It's only affecting Unranked and Competitive Play with Map Pool and new Hero needing to be unlocked though. Doesn't stop anyone playing the map in custom game mode. Does it make game fresh with changing maps with season (day/night versions also) well to be fair I wouldn't even notice. Although how many different maps do you see in OTHER games? I wouldn't call it content by having different map pools per season, but have to admit eventually you would have to limit map pool for ranked at least (so why not for quick play too?). I could play King's Row all day, but then again how often am I even getting it, if there's 20 or 30 maps in pool? Not so often, or at least I shouldn't be getting it that often.
$90 a month? Man, I wish I could pay $90 for a phone bill, after they're done adding all the hidden fees, surcharges, and absurd taxes to the bill. Still not as bad as a cable bill though, lol.
@Vaniq We're talking about anything that isn't prepaid tho, didn't Act Man say something about not being able to use prepaid numbers? Also Sprint doesn't exist anymore. We used to be Sprint customers and got automatically transitioned to a T-Mobile plan that was slightly more expensive Also #2, Sprint doesn't sell unlocked phones afaik(?) I just took the Sprint one cause it's better than Samsung's direct price. And it's a moot point anyway because most ""unlocked"" phones these days (including all Samsungs with a snapdragon chip) are actually bootloader locked. And iPhones always were, but at least they get jailbreaking as long as you stay on an old iOS.
I really miss the cards at the end of the matches because as support it was always the way I felt rewarded for my part in the game, otherwise I'll never get a potg so people just forget you're there
Never really understood how removing medals, in their eyes, would "reduce toxicity". The fact that it's so heavily team reliant causes the toxicity because everyone's just constantly pointing fingers at one another as to why they lost. That's never going to change. Players should just ignore the ones being toxic or just disable the text chat like my mate did because he was getting fed up with being ripped into every match.
"oh no someone's being toxic!" Ok well...instead of removing a great deal of fun from the game what if...just what if. You mute the chat. Or turn down the volume. Or ignore them.
This skin thing can be applied to pretty much most modern games, I recall during the past, many many centuries ago during the age of Black Ops: Cold War, the only way to not just look like the base operator with a recolor was to buy whatever new operator they had in the shop, pretty much 90% of the different skins for operators there were just recolors, with 20+ dollar outfits in the shop being the only thing that looked unique.
Small correction: Overwatch 2 was not lazy, they put at least as much as they did into overwatch, Just they put 90% of that effort into "How can we extract as much money as possible" and only about 10% of time into "Can we make the game playable/worth playing?"
id say 97% of that went to extracting money. hence they just combined them. shit they didnt even have the main diffrence for the games up and ready at launch. i bet itd be a year before pve mode comes out. its a cash grab
Valorant and CSGO are miles more greedy, so no, OW is not trying to extract as much money out of. Fucking hate this idea that it’s greedy when basically every other game but fortnite is worse
the 2 little things i miss more than i thought i would is 1: the endcards where you could see who perfomed the best at some categories (healing, damage *objective time* (where did that go?) and 2: the option to endorse the enemy team. i cant count how many times the enemy team had a really good player that just had bad luck with randoms from the internet, and i just want to give them that little "hey, you did great, here have some recognition". nope, thats gone. dunno how that combats toxicity, but my brain probably isnt corporate enough to see the brilliance behind that.
those are gone because everyone gets participation awards, in current political correctness equallity means equility of outcome, so there cant be best.
they even said them self that there isn't a scoreboard in Overwatch (1) because it incentivises toxicity to specific team members (which it does!) so in no way i can imagine how/why they suddenly think it's a good idea to add a scoreboard. and yes you're talking basically from my heart with the endcards. it was always so cool to see someones performance valued that isn't just "x Kills" or "x Damage" but also "killed x people with his/her ult, used the ult y times" or for zarya "x% average energy". these cards didn't just genericly list some basic statistics but actually how good you where with that hero. sure there where also cards just about how many kills but these ususally came up when the kill count was actually parting from the other players kill-stats.
They are based in California. Gotta get rid of ANYTHING that might offend all the crazy leftist lunatics, they have pretty much taken over Cali at this point. Hence why it has turned into a woke shithole.
The loot boxes were never that bad, you used to get them so often. I have around 100 hours in Overwatch and I have hella gold skins (whether it was pure luck or not) but now you have to grind for 9 months STRAIGHT to get ONE gold. When I saw people rejoicing the announcement that loot boxes were going away I already knew it was gonna be bad. Also to comment on the current gaming landscape: $60 is too much to us and too little them, whether that be due to inflation or general economical degradation or just straight up greed on their part.
It's greed. Games are far cheaper to make than they used to be (industry wages are rock-bottom and unpaid crunch the norm, there's entire libraries of plug-in tools and baked-in systems rather than having to build an engine from scratch, the shift to digital has removed the cut of profits that retail stores used to take and the cost of making physical copies, etc), and trying to rinse players for up to 12 grand for an asset flip of a game that already more than paid for itself is ridiculous.
Indoctrination basically. When you force feed people enough $20 skins it becomes the market norm. Its at a point where the consumers literally try to defend it, thats how hopelessly fucked we actually are in this market. People will *Actively ask to pay more money for less content at a lower quality*
I've seen people who had the skin from the end of the Overwatch season pass on day 1. Which means they spent at least~150$ day one :| As long as 1 person like that exists for 50-100 other players, these terrible monetization systems will continue to be common place. I don't understand how people can pay enough money for multiple full priced games on a digital costume for one game.
@@TheDom998 The thing is though, you didn’t earn that skin from completing a difficult challenge like most older games, you got it from spending an exorbitant amount of money, if anything it has the opposite effect of admiration.
@@TheDom998 funnily enough, at least from my perspective, anyone I see with a cool skin that's not from the season pass looks like an fool for spending 20 USD on it.
Literally feel like this came down to marketing and making a 2 on it. The game itself is in a pretty fun state, althought I havent played for years its great to come back to while waitin for Warzone 2
@@buto1542 Companies know you know care, that's literally why they're doing it. Genshin Impact is literally a casino game yet it's insanely big. Why? Surprise surprise, because it's fun so people don't care. One day they'll make it that to play a game where you need to pay 10$ every day or else they'll lock your account, but if it's fun, people won't care. And we'll have more and more generations born in this new era of the gaming industry where they don't know any better so they'll accept it and defend it. The gaming industry has long become another corporate landscape for money and apathy is the reason it got there, more than addiction.
I literally remember watching the first gameplay footage on this as it released and I literally was thinking to myself "Dang Overwatch has been getting players for years" I wonder when they gonna make a second one 🤦♂️
Love that at 8:07 you used an old school revolver for that bit bc its also how Hunt Showdown is handling their unlockables now, and that revolver is exactly the type of gun used in Hunt. Pay real money or go through challenge based questlines to unlock them. Its not as agregious as Blizzard or Activision yet but you can see who they are influenced by. Money talks.
Best way I've seen this game described (by my friend): "Overwatch 2 does amazing step forward, but then does backflip, falls back 2 steps while asking for your money to pay hospital bills even though it has money to do so on it's own"
They changed director midway through so it's very likely that Jeff either left because of the sexual harassment or because of the fact the higher ups were pushing for a game completely different from his vision.
That or all of the devs that actually knew how to make the game run either left or got fired during the harassment claims and allegations. They might've been shit human but at least they were competent at making the game work. The members of OW2's dev team still can't fix bugs from the games launch almost 2 weeks later on a live service game. Absolute clowns. The worst part is that OW2 isn't even a big change from OW1 -- it's really more like Overwatch 1 just with a new UI and that's about it. Same Engine, same models, same graphics. How can those clowns work on a "sequel" for 3 years and the stuff that was supposed to make it a sequel (the campaign / story mode, though no one really gives two fucks about that) isn't it released along with the game, lmao.
I mean the man set out to do one game that got canned halfway, told to use whatever assets he had from it, with a skeleton crew at that, as ppl got shifted to other projects, and make something out of it, managed to pull a rabbit out of that hat and OW1 hit top marks, gets on to OW2 and most likely than not couldn't enforce the philosophy the game had had till then and just calls it quits , and voila OW 1.1 now show me the money.. just sad to see yet another title follow a trend that should have been rooted out years ago -_-
This just further confirms what I've suspected for years now. Uninstalling the Battle net launcher along with all related content had been the best decision I've ever made. The struggle with sunken cost fallacy was real but I'm glad to say that I'd rather sink my costs into literally anything but Activision Blizzard.
I love how this game gave the new character Kiriko an entire short film to advertise her, but then wants the player to grind to Level 55 to even play as her. It's like Blizzard wants you to despise them for doing stuff like this.
Jesus Christ is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. They that believeth and are baptized (with the Holy Spirit) shall be saved; but they that believeth not shall be damned. Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness. *God is ONE manifesting himself as THREE;* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! *For these three are one.* As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him. Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE! Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil. I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God! Open your heart to God, repent of your sins (he will forgive you), and let him direct your path. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands and purify your heart, lest you walk with the devil and follow him to hell.
ye at this point, it feels to me more like a game that made by some no name company trying to copy overwatch, and this is the result. Some lame game mode [push] inferior UI and money grab, and even lamer reworks. Of course if it would be like that, who knows, maybe they would make more fun heroes copied from the originals. Truly incredible how they managed to make a step back in like every direction.. it actually is incredible. They had a working system...unbelievable
Well, you were right about most things. Main problem I’m seeing is the merging, I tried to merge a PC account to my 3 year old Xbox account and it removed all of my skins and basically deleted the account. Tried contacting Blizzard support, they deleted my first support ticket, 2nd ticket they hit me with an automated response. They couldn’t care less about the money and time I put into that account.
I thought the same thing, but it turned out my account just hadn’t finished merging yet. I hadn’t noticed the option at the bottom of the main menu where it shows you the progress of the merge.
It's wild to see how crazy anti-toxicity measures are getting: limiting audio chat, recording and transcribing player audio, asking for the player's personal data. I understand some players might become annoying and insulting when they lose matches. But this is breaching personal privacy. Is this even legally allowed? Hope other game companies don't follow through.
Extorting personal data is probably for ad selling purposes as usual. As for everything else, they want to pretend they ""fight toxicity""" while doing nothing to actually weed out the toxic scum they've been spoiling for two decades by rewarding smurfing and toxic tactics, because they would lose a bit of money from the toxic scum in the process.
This whole "muh privacy" bitching is kinda cringe. What is it your everyday mouth breather have that is so valuable nobody can find out about it? Nobody gives a fuck about what you're doing unless you're investigated for an actual crime you committed.
Well better question would be why can't people behave? Why do they have to act like morons while playing video games? What personal privacy, you already accepted the terms, when you installed and started the game? If someone can't behave online games there should be consequences simple as that (which is usually just short ban or permaban). Why should game companies let some people let ruin the fun for the most people? It only takes one idiot to ruin the fun for the rest so what do you expect will happen.
@@bldontmatter5319 but it’s also not the actual release. That comes when the campaign shows up. What they did instead was effectively a mega patch on their multiplayer to keep that hype going until they can finish up the campaign. This isn’t the entirety of overwatch 2 and it wasn’t supposed to be either, but blizzard is terrible at marketing so it was misconstrued as such by basically everyone.
You forget to mention the potted plant they added in the attack spawn on Gibraltar. That's some game-changing stuff right there, definitely a legit sequel
I subscribed. Instead of the corny toxic gamer review style most people do, you actually provide constructive criticism of games, highlight positives, and seem like you actually want games to be good rather than jump on some hate bandwagon. Very hard to find real reviews on TH-cam, this is a good channel.
Fun fact bastion’s super was broken because of a glitch after the server issues were fixed, he’s still not available in character selection as of writing this…
My friends would always play Overwatch 1, but I was hesitant to pay so much for what was essentially Paladins. When I heard the sequel was free, I got excited and downloaded it on day 1. After waiting several days for the servers to figure themselves out, I realized that I didn't even enjoy the game. Totally worth it.
yea, I never got 1 because Paladins was right there and I was a fan of Smite. but at least for me, I was after the custom games, and I'm loving the Endless Dungeon custom and hope once workshop is out, and then pve is there will be more fun like that.
@@1x5x7 paladins wayyy too much changes and over OP (yes i write correctly).. i miss the Beta paladin where u get to explore a bit riding horses and ingame cards are more interesting than now.
@@jukkininth4837 Eh updates these days are too little changes lol, it is always new hero, new skins and new battle pass and that is the only thing that comes out. New bugs is also added with each updates…
As someone who plays a lotta comp there's one thing I wanted to add that I feel like you missed (fantastic video btw I agree with everything you're saying!), the ranking system and matching is kind of a clusterfuck right now? They've removed SR and replaced it with what it is now (kinda like a tier thing ig?), which is a nice change of pace cause now I don't feel like I'm dancing around the same numbers for the rest of eternity. But now instead of losing or gaining SR each match you win/lose, you rank up or down for every 7 wins or 20 loses that you have (whichever comes first). Which makes the balancing feel very weird at times cause I can't help but feel that I either just curb stomped a bunch of bronze players or just got steam rolled by a bunch of top 500s. This was an issue in Overwatch 1at times but I've noticed it a lot more with this game than the original, and I know there are other comp players who feel the same. I dunno maybe with time it'll better? more of the same? I'm not particularly sure but I do think its something worth mentioning
Took me ages to get out of bronze but since I've been in silver the games feel 'easier' or at least more fun. No one's getting steamrolled but wins are more regular since moving ranks. I doubt I simply got better over a day or something, but at least in my experience bronze was more often than not one team absolutely rinsing the other
Matchmaking will probably be screwed for a while because there are so many people coming back to try overwatch 2 that haven't played for years (and therefore don't have a rank yet) but were/are really good. Meanwhile there is also a flood of new players as well.
Newest addition is bastion being removed from the game for his ult becoming spammable. Also dunno if you care about nit picks but they did add cover / terrain to maps in certain spots that originally didn't have them, removing a lot of open spaces from old maps making them easier to hold instead of just dead zones.
this. first games i started in OW 2 after a long hiatus from OW 1_the other team setup a bastion turret_& it was just impossible_it wasnt like that in OW 1_i guess people figured out how to spam it_then flooded to OW 2 to merc everyone who's rusty_& yea i had to quit after about 2 rounds of bastion turrets
As someone who just started Overwatch 1 just before 2's release, I was pleasantly surprised that the grinding for loot boxes rewarded you with in game currency that felt like it would get me skins within a semi-reasonable amount of time. I also appreciated that the medal system shows how well you did even when you were on the losing team. Needless to say, Overwatch 2 only has the 5 v 5 thing going for it now. Big yikes.
Yeah, and the stuff you like about 5v5 could've been accomplished within the 6v6 format. They didn't need to nuke the entire soul of the game to remove some CC or stop Double Shield.
As someone who played a lot of Overwatch one for a long time, and even tended to buy lootboxes during seasonal events for the cool skins, I'm fucking appalled at what Overwatch 2 did to the progression/monetization Fuck battlepasses, I liked the damn lootboxes in Overwatch. At least you got them for free for playing the game
I agree with the loot boxes thing but the removal of medals and implementation of a scoreboard is so much better. I can now tell what exactly my teammates are doing and why the one healer has somehow less healing than soldier and roadhog( it’s always kiriko)
Something you missed about the new voice lines is the Apex style pings and callouts. Being able to just ping where somebody is flanking is very useful when playing with no-mic randos and they seem to have added callouts. The only one I have heard so far tho is the one about being outnumbered. Very useful to be getting an audio cue along with the visual one.
@@Anonymys43 if you don't have it bound already, head to options, scroll down to communication controls, and there should be an option to bind one of your buttons to pinging.
I'm glad you pointed out the progression in OW2. At first, I couldn't really figure out why the game felt so dull. After seeing this video, it dawned on me that there really isn't any incentive to play this game continuously besides ranked to get the gold guns. Tbh it's saddening. Anyways great video!
@@DemiCape Motivation is whatever you want it to be, if leveling up is your drug of choice then a battlepass number should also be, clearly its not so maybe you have to rethink some things. Playing this game is itself enough of a rewarding experience and like every other game, "progression" is nothing more than levels after a while.
@@scotttimbrell8632 except in the first game every level up gave you a loot box. every single time. Which is free. The battlepass has locked content for pay only. so your argument already failed its point. don't tell people how to think. you like the battle pass. they dont. its that simple.
@@Rosietea No you miss-understood my point. We were talking about levels, the number that goes up. Not the reward for leveling, and if you want to be accurate once you get high enough levels you don't receive loot boxes EVERY level. Either way, you can think that getting a loot box is progression, I would argue that getting a bunch of random cosmetics everytime a number hits a certain amount isn't that different from getting number when a number hits a certain amount. What you fail to understand is that players like to see number go up, always have done and is the main point for a lot of games, META leveling is what players crave, not rewards for leveling, that's just a bonus. So leveling the battlepass, despite not earning for it is fine for progression. Think call of duty, people liked to prestige because new number goes up, some people didn't and that's fine. But now it's a seasonal thing and some people like to rank up again and some people don't, either way you get no rewards for doing so. And Im not telling people WHAT to think, I'm telling people what people think, because unfortunately for you, people display behaviours that are predictable and samey, hence how game development is a formula in order to get players to play their games. Think of FOMO, or other exploits that force people into thinking a certain way, I'm not telling people it's okay to feel like they are missing out, but that's exactly what they do feel.
@@DemiCape I agree. I really did like the progression levels in OW1, it was a lot of fun seeing my levels go up, get XP, and show off a bit and strive for the next level. It was another element that I miss and was really disappointed that it was not in OW2. I guess competitive ranks will be my new "level" for now, but it's not like its different from OW1...so idk how fun thats going to be.
Let’s just be honest games just been getting killed over an over an while they killing the game they also playing us for our money an milking the in game store
One minor correction I would like to add here is that specifically the phone number thing was not soo much a fight against toxic behavior but more an attempt to fight cheaters. As we all know cheating is becoming an increasingly larger issue in games and even more so in F2P shooters. I'm not necessary saying the way they did it was correct or executed well.
@@GeneralZimmer Ironically I'd have to buy an account to play now since they don't take my cellular carrier. Not that I'd want to play this trash anyway. I quit the original OW during s2 and never looked back.
It’s so bizarre hearing the tonal shift from the development of OW to OW2. I bought into the hype of Overwatch back in 2014-15. At that time, one of my favorite TH-cam creators, Star_, had been transitioning away from TF2 as his primary focus. Having played TF2 for years, it was exciting to see a good polished competitor coming out by Blizzard. And it was a good comparison, because most of my friends and I had spent a huge amount of time in TF2. There was the small things, like an appreciation for the net code, where platforms didn’t glitch out on you, and the payload was more dynamic. That the devs were making map and hero adjustments in the betas and post-launch like removing bastion’s shield and moving assets around to block sight lines. Then there was the promise of lore. If I remember correctly, the FPS game that we got in OW was a portion of a larger shelved IP that Blizzard had already sunk a huge amount of resources into expanding. And it looked promising, with the gorgeous shorts to compare against a game that Valve seemed to be leaving to die. Now, I’m not sure anyone that worked on OW then is left. After so many scandals and bad actors, it looks like this was a game created by algorithm, with no dev input past the visuals. For many years now, Overwatch has felt like a game that is played by streamers exclusively. They are the ones that make noise when things happen now regarding game balance, essentially acting as the community managers whenever things happen. And the idea that Blizzard seems to be up-charging them to promote this game seems scummy as hell.
An additional point, the phrasing of the PvE content being released as “seasonal content” is worrying, because that suggests that there’s going to be additional paywalls for accessing all of it, and that it’s still not going be finished at that point.
A similar effect happened with New Coke in the 80s. They tried to replace the thing everyone liked with no option of reverting back and people were so furious they made them undo the change. Wonder what will happen here.
You saw the EmpLemon video too didn't ya'? That said, I agree with your judgement: most likely they're going the route of "We're doubling / triplicating the rate of coins you get, so it's not as bad :)" despite still being 2.5 months for a legendary skin.
"...but I strongly suggest that you don't buy anything from this game until Blizzard stops being a money-first company and starts being a player-first company." This. Definitely this. If a company puts you first, then they've earned your money. If you reward an unhealthy business practice, it'll only get worse. Still, great video as always, Mr. Acting Male. Your insight remains on point.
They added like 12+ voice lines specifically using McCree's new name to shove it down everyone's throats. He had like ONE voice line before saying "The name's McCree" and now he, and other characters that should have no knowledge of his name change, all call him by the new one.
All they needed to do was have him be like "Aight changing my name cause I'm wanted." and that's it. But nah, just forced on us to cover their tracks thinking a name change will do anything.
It makes me happy to say my friends and I have been having a blast with this game. But I would not dream of giving Activision Blizzard any of my funds.
the best revenge against a free to play a game with crappy business practices = play the s*** out of it enjoy the hell out of it and never spend a freaking Penny on it
@@MrHusami11 Player count doesn't translate to real money. And if I can enjoy a game without servicing their greed then I may as well do just that. Also the way I see it when a company sees disappointing player counts they give up on it and let it die. At least if they see high player counts with low spending they MIGHT (keyword here) change it instead of kill it. Nobody likes to see decent games die cuz of terrible business practices
I've always viewed Battle Passes as predatory monetization meant to fleece players into continuously spending money. Overwatch 2 just confirms my biases even further, given how predatory the game's Battle Pass system appears to be.
@@geodude03 what they were doing before. The only problem with that is that they weren't making literally all the money in the world so obviously it wasn't good enough. /S
Yeah. They can be done right though. There are battle passes where you can earn enough currency at the end of the season to get the next battle pass for free. Pretty sure Fortnite does that.
Some years back when lootboxes were being questioned over legality, I remember some developer saying something along the lines of "the alternative is a lot worse. You are going to wish you didnt do this"
the phrase "i got this thing free and still feel like i got robbed" sums up my feelings perfectly, i remember being a young teen and playing this game in the mid 2010's and i loved it.. most of the time, but absolutely loved it, however i eventually sold my 100 dollar version of the game (im in australia so american prices dont translate to us very well) because i just kept losing and lost interest overall but then i hear the announcement of OW2 and im excited to try it out but.. its the same game and now free, yeah im not sure on the technicality of these moves but i feel robbed and will never be giving such a disgusting developer my money the fact i had to give my phone number and all this other contact information made me uncomfortable too
Eh, there's other games I would rather install on my pc than OW2. The current state of the game rn, is just poorly done. And basically just taking (stealing) the space needed for worthwhile games.
idk why ppl are saying it’s the same game bro. removing one tank literally changes everything. what else did u want them to do, make the game battle royale? lmao
I put more effort into the dump I took this morning
😂😂😂
Sheesh
I love you
Pics for proof?
Same lol
"We're removing end card because seeing stats at the end of the game leads to toxicity, but we added a scoreboard where you can see everyone's stats whenever you want"
LOGIC!
Honestly though the cards at the end of the game were kind of trash anyway. They weren’t really any measure of how well someone did, it was more like this Ana got the most healing, or that soldier got the most damage.
@@huntermushero9362 someone didn’t get cards at the end of the game
First comp game in someone was mad I didn’t have high dmg..
Not anymore
It costs $12k to buy everything for every hero
It's genius because that's the budget the devs had
*to by all the old Overwatch 1 cosmetics it's over $12,000 for a new f2p player. Which is insane that assumes you buy the $100 discounted currency bundles too.
No way in hell I'm spending 38 weeks grinding for 1 old legendary skin. I'm glad I got a ton of legendaries that I love and carried all my stuff over. I should've known there would be a catch. "Oh you can port everything over... but you can only get 60 coins per week and legendaries you don't have will now be 1900 coins instead of 1000 😈"
You play not to win but for skins??
@@GoznerPeter That's what I'm saying.
@@GoznerPeter well, out side of bragging rights, skins are one of the few tangible goals to reach through playing the game, at least in OW1. That is what kept a bunch of people playing after OW1 stopped getting big updates. It sparked interest into people during dry spells of the game or when nothing really happens that you're interested in. Take that away or make it painful to do, and you lose the interest of a lot of people.
I've seen my fair share of planned expansions to games becoming sequels, but I can't say I've ever seen an update for a game marketed as a sequel before.
True innovation
Can’t wait for a 1 mb patch to be marketed as a sequel
But they removed a tank and changed the time of day on maps!
"planned expansions to games becoming sequels" - Saints Row IV, for example.
I've seen worse, downgrades to a game being called sequels (Destiny 2).
At least they turned that game around, but anyone who remembers pre-Forsaken D2 will tell you it was literally just D1 but worse and with less in every area.
Have you heared of MW2 2022?
Amazing how well this aged
I was just thinking that 😂
Act Man was ahead of his time
Truly. Amazing but also very sad man jeesh 🤦😂
What happened? I've never played either game, I just love watching Acty tear game publishers ass holes open
aged like milk on a hot summer day
Two weeks later and both Discord and Shadowplay still recognize Overwatch 2 as just “Overwatch” cause it’s really just an update.
Xbox still calls it Overwatch Origins Edition
While you download the game on PlayStation it still calls it Overwatch Origins Edition
My discord already only recognizes it as Overwatch lol
My discord recognizes it as Overwatch 2 now on PC. It took 7 days after launch before it changed on Discord
Even the desktop shortcut says Overwatch 1 💀
Can I just point out the irony of a company known for sexual harassment cases promoting diversity and equality through their heroes. Maybe get more heroes in your workspace first, the message would feel slightly more genuine, Bobby.
"maybe get more heroes in your workspace first"
DAMN
@@ADUSN HR and the spokesmen all represent Kotick, and his PR was already trash as far back as the OG MW2.
@@TheActMan i think you just found your next tweet
Dude, shut up and buy a battlepass
Because the character designers and every single person who worked on OW1/OW2 does that. Come on
This video gets funnier now that blizzard have Just completely killed the main pve mode they advertised for years that was meant to give a fucking reason for this game existing lmao.
And with that, they may as well be called "Shitstorm."
That is IF it was actually being made
I imagine that they announce the PvE mode for so long that the pre orders would be huge, then they remove it, keeping the money and refusing refunds
I've seen Overwatch 2 failing pve that TF2 did years ago about 167 times. And it keeps getting funnier. EVERY TIME I SEE IT!
Even worse now that they're talking about bringing back 6v6, just straight up making a full circle to just being a shop rework lmao.
I never thought I’d see the day where I miss loot boxes in a game
That's what I was thinking! Id prefer a daily reward over *Five years*
same you dident need to pay for 3 loot boxes just play 9 matches for 3loot boxes
So true
And Halo did the exact same thing lmao
This comment illustrates exactly how things keep getting worse. When Blizzard starts harvesting children's organs we'll all say "I miss the days when all they did was sell cyanide".
The worst part isn't that this is just an update marketed as a sequel, is that it's mostly an update to the monetization system.
I.e. update to the one thing actually important to publishers.
Never thought I'll get to actually despise gaming.
Here is the full video th-cam.com/video/QrAS12Pkg_k/w-d-xo.html
A update that took three years.
Be honest. With the fact that overwatch was dying and quite literally falling from grace. Will it be more appealing to bring back players if they said Overwatch 1.158.6? Or overwatch 2 is more attracting?
@@rmhminiman they wouldn't have had to rely on such tricks, and OW1 wouldn't be dying, if they didn't pretty much leave it completely dead and without updates for years.
All to release this "sequel" that's just an update in the end.
Never heard of a video game sequel that actively removed content until now. Truly one of the sequels of all time.
Warcraft III ‘Reforged’ did as well, also a Blizzard game.
I think I've seen it before, at least as far as maps go. There is maybe a bit more to it.
Like for example if you have too huge a map pool, the chance of some appearing will become statistically low. I don't actually know how this works in Overwatch (mostly random?), but some shooters also let players vote for next map. If players have some favorite maps and some they like less, then naturally the favorite ones will get voted repeatedly while the others are collecting dust in the map pool. You as a dev might then wonder why you should retain some older ones in the first place and unreasonably bloat up the map pool or the game itself when you at the same time also have to at least create some new maps to both give reason to releasing a sequel and accomodating a different team setup (5 vs. 5) and modes.
That being said it could be worse, like a game removing content without releasing a sequel, see Destiny 2 and them having "vaulted" large chunks of content, some of which people had paid for.
Have you never played cod? They remove features all the fuckin time.
Basically every Halo game since Reach lol but yeah this shit is getting out of hand
Destiny 2
The sequel to this video will redefine sequel videos ASTRONOMICALLY BETTER than how overwatch redefined sequels
After having a handful of jobs, I've realized that many businesses truly are held together by just a few people who understand the bigger picture and actually work hard to get there. I think Blizzard has lost a lot of those people.
This is true.
RIP Daddy Jeff. He saw the writing on the wall.
This is a lesson many people need to learn the hard way when everything comes crashing down.
Many, if not all, organizations are like this. Western gaming really feels the squeeze as the auteurs have all been ousted by their publishers, and new "talent" gets pushed in for quotas. The games themselves are just quotas now.
my brain saw "handful" and "jobs" and at 1st I thought I saw "handjobs" and for a second I was very confused
Ah yes the goal to reduce toxicity. Coming from a company that has recently been called out many times for a toxic work environment. 10/10
Acti-Blizz are the champions of "do as I say, not as I do".
"toxic" really is a understatement in this case, their work environment has to be the most predatory, demeaning, nasty, degenerate and downright rapey i ever read about
@@MrLachapell geese that makes me miss blizzard before they became activision blizzard.
ok
i find that to be quite ironic as well
I love it when you can display your achievements in video games, taking away the borders and stars really sucks, and taking away the medals feels like it ruins the flow almost
The thing is, achievements display shows your achievements, i.e. things that you have worked on and proven worthy of. They don't want you to be good and worthy, they want you to see other players' skins and envy them so that you'd be inclined to spend money on those skins (looking at you specifically here, MW2-2). These days you're supposed to brag with how much you spent, not how good you are.
@@abadenoughdude300 FACTS
The medal system sucked and encouraged toxicity. You could have gold damage and still play like shit but the player would simply refuse to listen because GoLd mEDaLs brO
@@yoanski2559 it's exactly the same with the scoreboard. "Dude you have less elims than me" - the Moira/Genji who does just 20 damage to a hero but got the kill, so they are obviously the best, despite not having a clue about what they are ment to be doing.
@@jgomo3877 it's way better than the medals and now you can see how everyone is doing
in the match
Who's here after the PVE Mode got canceled?
Well everyone not dead...
"It's gonna get worse if you let them"
The WORLD needs to understand this
I think people understand it. I think a lot of people don't want to be inconvenienced with actually having to take a stance.
@@RemyBeast its cause its not a big deal
@@tiktokexposed898 Anti consumerism is a big deal to plenty. And that's the group my comment is for.
@@tiktokexposed898 ah yes awful games are not a big deal. Have fun playing broken shit for 70$ you clown 🤡
Very true but we can't expect anyone to parade behind an ideal if they're still having fun with said product. I wouldn't blame them either. Ignorance is B L I S S.
One of the most annoying parts of this "sequel" is the fact that skins cost real money, or 5% of your life's time, which is a lot. I would rather have loot boxes again.
Yeah I have a feeling that there gonna provide a better way to make credits in the single player so people feel more enticed to buy the single player
@@badasscrusader I thought single player was going to be free though?
@@salineaddict9850 nope, they gotta milk the game some how now that it's f2p and people aren't paying money for skins that were accessible through loot boxes
@@salineaddict9850 I've never seen anything saying that the single player was going to be free,last I checked it was going to be 40 bucks so do you want 2 legendary skins or a single player mode
@@badasscrusader I thought I had read that somewhere. I am probably mistaken.
But I’d rather buy a single player mode, tbf. I bought way too many skins on Fortnite back in the day, and I won’t make mistakes like that again.
IT'S TIME, you have no idea how long i was waiting for an Overwatch video from you Act Man
*You waited about a week*
Let’s just be honest games just been getting killed over an over an while they killing the game they also playing us for our money an milking the in game store
@@cliffturbo2146 *he meant overwatch as a whole, not just the second one*
@@shushman77 Oh...
I'm still waiting for an RDR and RDR2 video from the Act Man, lol
They abandoned OW1 for 3 years since they were aparently working on PVE for OW2. Well, now PVE is officially canceled. OW2 was literally just an excuse to make the game free to play and lock heroes behind a battlepass
Good work as always
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really glad you touched on the lootboxes before. while lootboxes generally suck in overwatch they used to actually be not that big of a deal because you could really grind a lot of them and unlocking many things without paying anything. this new shop is for sure worse than what it used to be
It’s mainly since like you said they weren’t too hard to grind and were cosmetic only. Unlike say the supply drops in COD games from AW through BO4. I’d always take paid only cosmetics over supply drops with weapons in them that change stats and make the game pay to win. But in this case, not only was it not that situation (so now there is no way at all to reasonably earn cosmetics instead of a flawed way, something is better than nothing, but it also is incredibly disrespectful to the people who bought the first game since you can’t just go back to it. Doubly so since you don’t earn credits back from the battle pass, forcing you to pay up every season.
Agreed. It was nice to know that whenever a new skin I really liked was released I could just grind the game a bit to either get a lucky pull or build up enough currency. Makes you fond of the times that games rewarded you for playing the game instead of just begging for your card info
@@spunch1205 Still doesn’t beat the relatively really old times when skins were for things like achievement rewards and skill based tasks rather than monetized…
I miss those days when you paid $60 for the game and got the whole game, no questions asked, and it worked immediately from day one. Back in the Wii era (I was and still am a Nintendo person). I’m not positive if the 360 and PS3 era were mostly or totally like that, but it was probably better than now.
It makes me really happy that games like Elden Ring, which is one of the very few non indie games to return to that style, sold so well. It gives me hope that we may someday return to that style of game. Sure some games be $70 due to inflation, but that’s totally reasonable imo for a complete well made game, especially with how much money goes into graphics now
(Separate argument, but I think we’d have much better games if we took that money going towards graphics, made games look more cartoony (or lower poly) or pixelated and spent that time making amazing levels and mechanics rather than filling games with meaningless bloat and or grind. After all, just look at the incredible indie market nowadays)
@Calvin Robertson True. The difference here is that the loot boxes were free, the battle pass is not (or all the $20 separate skins jeez) That’s the problem. Plus they had dupe protection (for much of the game life anyway) and we’re cosmetic only.
Something is better than nothing for free progression. ESPECIALLY for those who bought the first game and had it stripped from them.
If we could play OW1 I’d have much less of an issue, since it’s still scummy, but at least you could earn stuff more for the first game and stay with it if you wanted, but you can’t)
lootboxes werent any kind of deal in ow1
I never thought that being able to play games for free would be one of the worst things to happen to gaming but the free-to-play model is really proving me wrong.
The irony of this is that when you play(ed) games for free "the old fashioned way" (yarrrgh) the worst thing that could happen was a hard drive reformat to get rid of the dodgy crap that scuttled over. Now when you play for free it can cost you your bank account and personal data, and that's not by some malware but the actual legit game itself.
@@abadenoughdude300 lol dude "Now when you play for free it can cost you your bank account and personal data, and that's not by some malware but the actual legit game itself." i gotta remember that comparison!
Free to play but I have to give blizzard my phone number? Welp. . . Guess I'll never play overwatch then.
Genuinely. I did not think of this when I was younger and just liked games being free. Now seeing this is like “damn all this content from the past game that was free behind the game itself having a price tag is now locked behind a price tag perhaps 5 times higher and more so in the future for just the game being free”
I mean its not that bad I get to play for free and other people pay for cosmetics
I hate how many games are just becoming a second job. You wanna know where your game's toxicity comes from? Making your players hate it as much as a soul-crushing 9 to 5.
The companies also just abuse the developers like hell! Like goddamn, let them make their fucking game!
The worst is GTA5 online. God help you if you're a new player in 2023. This old ass milked to death game is about as rewarding as a minimum wage at McDonald's, and the open world is so toxic and filled with oppressors that you literally have to play it in a private lobby with reduced pay on missions. The missions aren't treated as part of the game, they just interrupt the actual fun you have messing around to go drive 30 minutes to the middle of nowhere so that you can get like 5000 dollars to work towards buying a doge charger that costs 2 million dollars 😂
Only game i gladly treat as secound job is warframe that is becouse its rewarding comumity is fun, and its not P2W
I'll never understand why they removed medals, the on fire mechanic, post game cards, border levels etc to reduce toxicity, but then added a scoreboard where everyone can see how bad certain players are doing at all times
The logic....smh
It's so that everyone can be held accountable, if I'm doing jack shit on my widow maker pick I can't shit on my support teammates since I'm not killing their threats.
@@Vrailik Then again... WHY REMOVING MEDALS??
@@betorockmetal a scoreboard keeps everyone on the team on the same page and it allows players to have a more accurate idea of the state of the match.
@@Crit7k that answers the question of "Why add a scoreboard?". The question that was asked, though, was "Why remove medals if you aren't going to obfuscate the stats?".
The reality is that they probably removed the medals, then realised during play testing that people don't enjoy having literally zero feedback or recognition for playing well, so added in the scoreboard to fix the problem they introduced. It is nonsensical to replace medals with a scoreboard for the purpose of lowering toxicity. The people who piss and whine now have permanent access to their team mates' stats which they can use as a weapon. At least with medals it only showed who did well, rather than who was doing badly. This stinks of some team lead demanding that medals are removed, and the devs below them introducing a work around that makes the problem worse because they have no choice.
Fun Fact: the "On Fire" mechanic was NOT removed actually, you can still hear the voice lines of it You can still earn fire by doing your average actions, its just the visual of being on fire was removed..?
Im pretty sure what happened is when development started the first thing they did is port over the code, seems reasonable, but for some reason they did not wanted the on fire anymore so they removed the line of code for the lil bar but NOT the actual on Fire code soo yea.. If someone somehow finds it we can have a functional fire metter again.
I mean, this is literally just an update. They ported over 90% of the code at least. I'm loving OW2 so far in all honesty, but it's so clearly Overwatch 1 that the app that installs on your PC is called Overwatch. And not Overwatch 2 if you search for it.
Actually, it was removed last minute or something because the voicelines for it are brand new for the old heroes aswell as the old ones. So they not only went through the effort to get new voicelines, but also implement them and still left out the visual.
A video game is not just one big line of code.
Most programmed applications take advantage of classes, and assuming that the visual function is removed, the class responsible for visually displaying the mechanic was disabled.
Also I would bet that they removed the function because the mechanic did not accurate feedback, and leads players into the wrong direction in terms of skill.
They just don't want you flexing in any way possible. Can't have visual stimulus that makes you appear better than other players. Don't worry about whos good or not, just go check out the battle pass.
At this point i wouldnt be surprised if they just removed the lil sprite animation used for the on fire so it still plays but is invisible as asset isnt there.
I remember when game companies released games that were *complete* and didn't need live service, permanent internet connection, and were actually good.
*When was that? I never experienced such precious times*
The good old days. Sad that people will perpetuate this model of unfinished shit by buying into this turd.
@@cliffturbo2146 in the ancient days when square enix was still making good final fantasy games.
@@cliffturbo2146 literally anything in the ps3 and Xbox era.
@@J4nT3mpl4r Mind blown🤯
Part II. You have to make a sequel to this. So much failure has happened.
let act man cook. his cooking will be better then the deep fried garbage that is OW
Part II is more than necessary now.
Your wish has been granted, he did post a part II 😂😂
@@jameslsheltondid he really??! I need it
I agree. The game has gone through some changes since launch. It's in a pretty good state now since Bobby got the boot. They still got a long way to go
I give them props. This game really makes you "Feel" like you're being ripped off
Ripped of by a free game
@@louisharland3071Most games are rip offs these days no matter if they're free or paid
@@ki11atj49 but how are you getting ripped off if it’s free though I do think they could’ve done more but the focus has always been pve even before the first overwatch came out when it was called titan
@@louisharland3071 the focus has not always been on pve, it's very clearly been on pvp in this exclusively pvp game
@Under Achieved then do that
Honestly, my most hated change is removing endorsing opponents. I always loved the sportsmanship that came with it. Honestly i've made friends who were on the opposing team and we endorsed eachother on good skill. Thanks for the great video act man
Literally yesterday I fought a Sombra main who made our life's hell.
Yet she literally played well and we could easily counter her by just thinking.
It was a good type of getting beaten and I wasn't allowed to endorse them :/
At least I told them through chat
Yeah I missed being able to endorse the enemy healer after match
Tf useless feature, literally placebo effect. If you want to say GG, just send a message in game chat
From the few clips I've seen of this game, did they also get rid of the "I'm on fire" feature?
@@jam1494yes
You can definitely tell the developers were forced to take the fastest possible path to release the game to market. According to Overwatch's lead creative director Bobby Kotick alone is responsible for the game being many many months behind schedule since he wanted them chasing trends implementing battlepass crap and stupid stuff from cod then constantly changed his mind. Entire teams of developers turned over citing Bobby Kotick as the main reason
How stupid are you people, so now the devs show up in comments to bullshit? Bobby kotic I bet he wouldn't even know or care about any blizzard devs why would he, mind you after this PoS I bet he took names.
I'm praying for Bobby's downfall after the merger is finalized
@@Sebboebbo Even if he gets removed immediately I think it's written into the rules that he gets a ~$185 million dollar leaving check or something like that. My educated/researched guess is that it'll take awhile after they aquire ABK to slowly reduce his role as Microsoft takes more power. He'll probably get put on an advisor role of a console or something. Even though he has threatened to have his assistant killed and there are allegations of him protecting a person who committed a s*xûàl assault from being fired it seems people that high up never lose job security no matter how abusive they are if they're really good at that high end specialized job or making money there's always a place for them somewhere to hop to in the market
I don't like wishing death by prostate cancer on alot of people, because it's a horrible way to go. But to him and everyone like him, it would be the most merciful way I'd wish death upon someone.
@@Sebboebbo 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
"Don't buy anything from this game, until blizzard stops being a money first company, and starts being a player first company" Damn that gave me chills
i have hope this game will be solid given time but im tired of having to give a released product time to be great
Me too kwite
Just don't play it. There are literally hundreds of games that respect your time more at this point. Let 5 y olds have their first game because they don't know any better and move on.
@@Diegoshadow85 destiny 2s festival of the lost is today i can grind and not play ow2 for 2 weeks let's gooo
@@tormclean9657 "i've been having a blast" was usual argument for New World too for people blind to all of its problems. After half a year these "having a blast" people left. Just like 95% of others. You literally have entire video explaining in detail "why it's getting hate" if you still asking why it's getting hate then you are the problem.
@@tormclean9657 he has a point tho u asked why its getting hate while yk the vid is there,but nah you choose to be the turd and ignore it
(18:54) This is my biggest gripe with Overwatch 2. It is a sign of respect to be endorsed by someone from the opposing team.
Lets be honest, people dont care about endorsements, they are used to insult your tank for being being tanky enough, or dps not doing damage, or as a meme when your mercy does loads of damage or most elims or something dumb. Play of the games, endorsements, they are all things no one gives a shit about, never will and have never done. They are only used as evidence against someone whos being a dick and makes no difference at all. In fact it was hella annoying taking time out of my end screen timer and get back to the menu, so much so that you have to proactively leave the game in order to requeue, its more annoying than anything else.
ok
@@scotttimbrell8632 bot player
@@scotttimbrell8632 just git gud
Same, it really felt confusing and bad to not be able to congratulate the enemy team when i felt they played really well.
I never thought blizzard could do something to make me miss the lootbox system. But I miss the lootbox system
Damn I know right. Now we actually got to support the game's development to flex skins on people.
@@Vrailik Damn right... Like if you didn't already paid 60$ for the game, why not to pay other 200$ in skins, the millionaire company really needs all that money for sure.
@@Vrailik when you buy a skin there is zero flex. Already seeing people get trolled and laughed at for spending $20 on a skin.
@@pixavier9746 We got 6 years worth of content for our $60 bucks. I think it's fair for the devs to be able to keep their jobs by producing a functioning profitable game. I bet you bought 0 loot boxes in those 6 years.
@@pixavier9746 I'm not a whale so I won't have all the skins but I'm not crying. For all we know the skins could get cheaper next season. It's OW first season as free to play.
The endgame cards are a big part of the reason I loved OW1. I’m not THAT great of a player but I could often contribute in ways that would put me on a card.
Being on fire was an amazing visual confirmation to keep doing good.
Player portraits told me how long someone has been playing and how good they were at a glance.
Why were any of these removed? The benefits far outweigh the imagined downsides
I get people complained a lot about them, but the medals, endorsement system and endgame cards really were a huge part of why I enjoyed the game. It really sold a sense of community to the game for me. Like you, your team and the enemies could see and endorse a player's achievements in a game and really make them feel special. I remember how happy I was whenever I got 10 votes at the end of a match. Feeling like even the enemies appreciated how well I played. Now it just puts you to the battlepass and feels so much worse because of it
I really didn't like the medals because they had no real meaning and everyone was still so fixated on them (I'm not sure if the scoreboard is better though). Getting votes on your cards was nice though, it made having payload duty feel worth it. Removing endorsements from enemys feels weird too.
On the other hand, i do like having faster queues after games (not having to leave the game after the potg to save myself 40s of waiting).
@@all4me501 I once had 10 minutes on the payload as Winston, I pictured myself hugging the cart tight while bullets whizzed past my head
@@glassofwater281 It's a tough job, sometimes a boring job, often a dirty job, but Someone Has to Do It!
We shall never forget your sacrifice!
Never had I thought a game would make me think “I miss the loot boxes”
That… is scary that that’s the exact thing me and my crew talked about last time we played it. What kind of timeline are we living in
I saw it with Rocket League and the community went steadily downhill from there, imo. When they went from loot boxes to free to play, battle pass, and an item shop the community slowly warped into a cesspool by attrition. Its so funny to think back to the game a few years ago and the toxicity people complained about then, its 10 times worse now, the kind of people who become slaves to endless unlocks, battle pass progression systems, and item shops are not the most upstanding amongst gamers, ime.
Feel you.
@@Meta-Drew finally i see another person who thinks the same, the fucking free to play model ruined rocket league, since then i havent gett a single cosmetic, the battle pass is impossible to grind
@@VortexTalon not to mention the loot boxes made me miss microtransactions so it just keeps getting worse.
I feel like developers who love games left the project long ago and the ones who remain are fighting some impossible war.
That’s probably exactly what’s going on
dude the state of the overwatch team could not have been explained in a better way than this
I dunno, I watched Overwatch again, and I like it. I don't get the hate. HotS got 2.0 treatment as well, good games deserve getting more eyes on them once in a while. And it's f2p now.
- Adûnâi
A financial "incentive" war. They are all out for quick cash grabs and giving their fans hot streaming piles of shite all for a good price at $100 ONO!
I've never played overwatch.
I couldn't care less about this game
I never thought it would entertain me in any way, but here I am, watching every possible video that mocks it's death, 10/10 amazing game.
Same with me, lol
I can confirm that Overwatch 2 is a game ever made
Yes, it was a game of a time.
Can you confirm Team Fortress 3 tho?
And that is why overwatch 2 IS A GAME!!
one of the games of 2022
It's Watchin Time
I find it crazy that the achievements for getting to different levels in the old progression system have been replaced by getting battlepass levels
Lootboxes are gone which cool but,like they kinda just removed the only way to get things in game entirely and just added a battle pass lmao,of course along a different tier of purchasable currency and a SHOP💀. Yeah,great
@@PomadaGaming y'know i was thinking about getting Overwatch 2 but now that i know it has a battlepass, gotta say its a hard pass. Battlpass ruined Halo multiplayer and now it might take a toll on Overwatch 2
@@IAMSONICTH3H3DG3H0G I mean it’s also free
@@Nick-ht5yi i'm aware, but i dont have the time to keep on battlepasses and i'd rather pay 60 dollars for a full game with possible dlc then get a game for free and have to pay over 60 just to keep up with the unlockable content and have the money possibly go to waste becauze i dont have enough time to play the limited time battlepass
@@PomadaGaming they gotta bring back lootboxes, there is no other option. Battle pass and lootboxes can co-exist, like in Apex
the worst part is they removed overwatch one. totally killed it for my dad who was obsessed with overwatch one at release
Oh don’t worry man, it’s still there. There’s just a funny 2 after it now.
Was.
The gameplay at large is very similar since it is the same game with some reworks, basically a major balance patch. I don't quite see how they "removed ow1".
@@all4me501 I can name on several people's hands the content that was moved behind another paywall since the transfer. I would have no qualms about the OW2 stuff being battlepass and the OW1 stuff staying earnable.
@@all4me501 I would still play Overwatch 1 for fun if it was still up. I would never have touched Overwatch 2 if I had that option. That’s a pretty substantial difference even if you want to make the argument “but it’s free to play!” With the route they took, there isn’t that choice, and now players are limited to this supremely subpar battle pass system, 5 v 5, paywalled cosmetics that could be reasonably earned prior, pay or play walled characters that were previously available to everyone immediately, etc.
Had this talk with my group of friends. It's no longer Blizzard, just Activision. The Blizzard we know and love went to the store to get some milk and is never coming back.
They got taken out back by Activision…
Yeah, but now Microsoft own Activision
@@tylerj9950 won't change anything. Look at Infinite
@@kthomas1351 they don’t own it just yet. The shift in ownership is gonna happen in 2023 I believe
Bobby kotick 😭
whenever they launch a game, they get a mysterious DDOS attack. Im convinced they consider players logging in as a DDOS attack.
So here's the thing: No company will beef up their servers for a launch or expansion because they know a good chunk of people are sight seers who will go away in a week. Everyone learned from Wildstar that doing so is a recipe for going broke and being stuck with a bunch of servers you only needed for a month but are now stuck with and forced to deal with somehow. I suspect they know this, are aware their servers can't handle the huge influx of players and just plan all along to cry DDOS because Bobby needs that fat bonus.
One of my biggest issues with the first Overwatch (besides it's AWFUL matchmaking) was I barely felt a sense of progression or accomplishment when 80% of my progress was tied to hopefully getting a good skin from lootboxes. Their solution is removing borders, which basically made up the other 20% of progression, while throwing out lootboxes anyway so those rewards go out the window, ON TOP OF removing cards where you could at least see your better plays on a shitty team were noticed by SOMEONE, even if it was just the game measuring numbers. It's ABSURD
Yeah, as a Mercy main, I miss the cards at the end of the match. Healers are always under appreciated, so seeing my card get a ton of likes (from both teams) at the end of a match felt like vindication of a job well done. Now all I can hope for is an endorsement or two, which feel somewhat meaningless to be honest.
The Endorsement System should have just been awarded for the amount of votes a card got at the and of matches
Your progress should be getting better and not something the skin has to give you like a puppy. I am loosing all hope to gaming.
You can't even get endorsed by the enemy team anymore. You can see everyones stats all the time though, so it's not like the cards are needed. It's just like how you checked your own stats, only now it shows everyones, including the other teams, for... some reason.
@@t.r.2283 tthe problem is that you reach a barrier where you dont feel like your getting better and it can take 100s of hours to rank up, so small things to show progress just make the time where you arent making progress just a little better
Anyone else back here since blizzard announced that PvE was cancelled and scraped today?
The thing I absolutely hated the most was them taking the OW1 skins that were included in the $60 in the first game by earning them for free, are now $10-$20. It's scummy af and it's the worst thing I've seen a company do. Taking premade FREE things and just making them $20. I guess I'll never get anymore skins that I missed.
True!
A sequal should give and rich players.
Not take/steal from the players!:/
Just stop playing the game, don't support these practices
@@MrLachapell thats the thing its hard to stop playing games you like even if they are terrible.
Man they should atleast make it possible for players who got the 60$ experience to unlock those skins for free by doing stuff. There are tons of event skins I missed out on because of that.
@@davidmccall4024 I like OW, stopped playing cus Blizzard thinks I, or any consumer, accept anything they do blindly.
Never looked back since. Surprisingly, I am subbed to Act Man and watch mostly all of the videos posted here.
They also removed maps from the competitive and quickplay into a pool system that changes every season. The only "benefit"/reason I see why they are doing this is because they want it to feel fresh from season to season without having to actually add content into the game.
They'll be adding content every season tho?
@sk1nz28 yes, if they dont it would be suicide
the map pool already existed in overwatch 1. its nothing new
Well I don't know how many maps would you want to have in Ranked map pool then? I think at the moment there is 18? 5-5-5-3 (Control-Hybrid-Escort-Push) and they are excluding 4 maps currently I think. If we are getting new map every 2nd season also it would be close to 25 maps soon, which is actually a lot, if you just want to play more King's Row. I think sweet spot is much more closer to 4 or 5 maps per game mode for each season (if we have 4 or someday 5 different game modes?) which makes it 20 maps in "map pool" instead of somewhat 30+ in few years. It's only affecting Unranked and Competitive Play with Map Pool and new Hero needing to be unlocked though. Doesn't stop anyone playing the map in custom game mode.
Does it make game fresh with changing maps with season (day/night versions also) well to be fair I wouldn't even notice. Although how many different maps do you see in OTHER games? I wouldn't call it content by having different map pools per season, but have to admit eventually you would have to limit map pool for ranked at least (so why not for quick play too?). I could play King's Row all day, but then again how often am I even getting it, if there's 20 or 30 maps in pool? Not so often, or at least I shouldn't be getting it that often.
@sk1nz28 yes
Bliz really went from "do you not have phones?" to "do you not have $1000 phones with a $90 a month plan?"
$90 a month? Man, I wish I could pay $90 for a phone bill, after they're done adding all the hidden fees, surcharges, and absurd taxes to the bill. Still not as bad as a cable bill though, lol.
Oh that's such an exaggeration. I had no problem getting access and my phone is mid range at best. So no, I didn't pay anywhere near $1000.
is that an american thing? i don't know anyone who pays that much Oo
@Vaniq We're talking about anything that isn't prepaid tho, didn't Act Man say something about not being able to use prepaid numbers?
Also Sprint doesn't exist anymore. We used to be Sprint customers and got automatically transitioned to a T-Mobile plan that was slightly more expensive
Also #2, Sprint doesn't sell unlocked phones afaik(?) I just took the Sprint one cause it's better than Samsung's direct price. And it's a moot point anyway because most ""unlocked"" phones these days (including all Samsungs with a snapdragon chip) are actually bootloader locked. And iPhones always were, but at least they get jailbreaking as long as you stay on an old iOS.
@@nicotin9887 Yes this is absolutely an American thing lol, I've heard phone bills and cable bills in other countries are way more reasonable.
I really miss the cards at the end of the matches because as support it was always the way I felt rewarded for my part in the game, otherwise I'll never get a potg so people just forget you're there
This is exactly the type of player to enjoy overwatch
Never really understood how removing medals, in their eyes, would "reduce toxicity". The fact that it's so heavily team reliant causes the toxicity because everyone's just constantly pointing fingers at one another as to why they lost. That's never going to change. Players should just ignore the ones being toxic or just disable the text chat like my mate did because he was getting fed up with being ripped into every match.
"oh no someone's being toxic!"
Ok well...instead of removing a great deal of fun from the game what if...just what if. You mute the chat. Or turn down the volume. Or ignore them.
@@silverstar1238 Shhhh you're making too much sense right now.
@@StuartEaston23 ahhh gotcha.
Removing medals but showing everyones stats to reduce toxicity lol. They haven't a clue.
@@Earthboundmike doesn't make the least bit of sense, does it?
This skin thing can be applied to pretty much most modern games, I recall during the past, many many centuries ago during the age of Black Ops: Cold War, the only way to not just look like the base operator with a recolor was to buy whatever new operator they had in the shop, pretty much 90% of the different skins for operators there were just recolors, with 20+ dollar outfits in the shop being the only thing that looked unique.
Cold war was only 2 years ago.
@sasha sarcasm my guy
@@shasha6337 woooosh
Small correction: Overwatch 2 was not lazy, they put at least as much as they did into overwatch, Just they put 90% of that effort into "How can we extract as much money as possible" and only about 10% of time into "Can we make the game playable/worth playing?"
Why is that true
id say 97% of that went to extracting money. hence they just combined them. shit they didnt even have the main diffrence for the games up and ready at launch. i bet itd be a year before pve mode comes out. its a cash grab
Valorant and CSGO are miles more greedy, so no, OW is not trying to extract as much money out of. Fucking hate this idea that it’s greedy when basically every other game but fortnite is worse
@@thegipper1215 just because someone else did the bad thing better doesnt mean monitizing wasnt the focus of the overwatch 2 team as well.
@@thegipper1215 just because other games are greedier doesnt mean that this isnt the ammount of greed they think they can get away with
Orisa: You wish to ride me...
Me: What tha fu
Orisa: Into battle
Me: ooooh like a horse!
😉
the 2 little things i miss more than i thought i would is
1: the endcards where you could see who perfomed the best at some categories (healing, damage *objective time* (where did that go?)
and 2: the option to endorse the enemy team. i cant count how many times the enemy team had a really good player that just had bad luck with randoms from the internet, and i just want to give them that little "hey, you did great, here have some recognition". nope, thats gone. dunno how that combats toxicity, but my brain probably isnt corporate enough to see the brilliance behind that.
those are gone because everyone gets participation awards, in current political correctness equallity means equility of outcome, so there cant be best.
they even said them self that there isn't a scoreboard in Overwatch (1) because it incentivises toxicity to specific team members (which it does!) so in no way i can imagine how/why they suddenly think it's a good idea to add a scoreboard.
and yes you're talking basically from my heart with the endcards.
it was always so cool to see someones performance valued that isn't just "x Kills" or "x Damage" but also "killed x people with his/her ult, used the ult y times" or for zarya "x% average energy".
these cards didn't just genericly list some basic statistics but actually how good you where with that hero.
sure there where also cards just about how many kills but these ususally came up when the kill count was actually parting from the other players kill-stats.
They are based in California. Gotta get rid of ANYTHING that might offend all the crazy leftist lunatics, they have pretty much taken over Cali at this point. Hence why it has turned into a woke shithole.
@@Buttersaemmel I’m still absolutely baffled they did all this to reduced toxicity, yet added in a score board 🗿 nice blizz
I mean, you get the scoreboard now so everyone kind of knows. But I do miss getting the likes to 5 or 10 and hearing the voicelines.
The loot boxes were never that bad, you used to get them so often. I have around 100 hours in Overwatch and I have hella gold skins (whether it was pure luck or not) but now you have to grind for 9 months STRAIGHT to get ONE gold. When I saw people rejoicing the announcement that loot boxes were going away I already knew it was gonna be bad.
Also to comment on the current gaming landscape: $60 is too much to us and too little them, whether that be due to inflation or general economical degradation or just straight up greed on their part.
It's greed. Games are far cheaper to make than they used to be (industry wages are rock-bottom and unpaid crunch the norm, there's entire libraries of plug-in tools and baked-in systems rather than having to build an engine from scratch, the shift to digital has removed the cut of profits that retail stores used to take and the cost of making physical copies, etc), and trying to rinse players for up to 12 grand for an asset flip of a game that already more than paid for itself is ridiculous.
At this point just make overwatch one free
Also who thought it was a good idea to give a game a high price tag and still have Micro-transactions in it
only time when they were bad were seasonial events, because you couldnt stack up beforehand on boxes, so you ahd a very limited time to get the skins.
I thought this game was free to play?
Thank you for giving the Real Takes on these modern video game situations. That other channels wouldn't dare be honest and upfront about them.
"The team has been making great progress on the development of Overwatch 2"
Well that was a big lie
$5 on a cosmetic is already absurd to me, I never understood how people are able to stomach $20 for a skin
Indoctrination basically. When you force feed people enough $20 skins it becomes the market norm.
Its at a point where the consumers literally try to defend it, thats how hopelessly fucked we actually are in this market. People will *Actively ask to pay more money for less content at a lower quality*
I've seen people who had the skin from the end of the Overwatch season pass on day 1. Which means they spent at least~150$ day one :|
As long as 1 person like that exists for 50-100 other players, these terrible monetization systems will continue to be common place. I don't understand how people can pay enough money for multiple full priced games on a digital costume for one game.
Tf2 fans spending 7K on a pan
@@TheDom998 The thing is though, you didn’t earn that skin from completing a difficult challenge like most older games, you got it from spending an exorbitant amount of money, if anything it has the opposite effect of admiration.
@@TheDom998 funnily enough, at least from my perspective, anyone I see with a cool skin that's not from the season pass looks like an fool for spending 20 USD on it.
Literally feel like this came down to marketing and making a 2 on it. The game itself is in a pretty fun state, althought I havent played for years its great to come back to while waitin for Warzone 2
Shill. This type of publisher/developer behavior will never stop if we don't actually tell them to f off and not buy it or play it.
@@goobawhoba I acknowledge this as being fact but yet the game is enjoyable so i will continue to play
@@goobawhoba literally dont care the game is fun
@@goobawhoba liking a game=shill
@@buto1542 Companies know you know care, that's literally why they're doing it. Genshin Impact is literally a casino game yet it's insanely big. Why? Surprise surprise, because it's fun so people don't care. One day they'll make it that to play a game where you need to pay 10$ every day or else they'll lock your account, but if it's fun, people won't care. And we'll have more and more generations born in this new era of the gaming industry where they don't know any better so they'll accept it and defend it.
The gaming industry has long become another corporate landscape for money and apathy is the reason it got there, more than addiction.
I literally remember watching the first gameplay footage on this as it released and I literally was thinking to myself "Dang Overwatch has been getting players for years" I wonder when they gonna make a second one 🤦♂️
what does that mean?
@@zeakthetinysoviet3702 Me? I didn't know I was watching Overwatch 2 footage. I thought I was pretty clear.
Can't blame you tbh
They made the HUD crappier with the simple fonts. I miss that slanted font which gave it a more overwatch look
@@SuperMurray2009 Yeah, but the quote doesn't make sense. I assume you meant Overwatch has been getting "characters".
Love that at 8:07 you used an old school revolver for that bit bc its also how Hunt Showdown is handling their unlockables now, and that revolver is exactly the type of gun used in Hunt. Pay real money or go through challenge based questlines to unlock them. Its not as agregious as Blizzard or Activision yet but you can see who they are influenced by. Money talks.
Best way I've seen this game described (by my friend):
"Overwatch 2 does amazing step forward, but then does backflip, falls back 2 steps while asking for your money to pay hospital bills even though it has money to do so on it's own"
They changed director midway through so it's very likely that Jeff either left because of the sexual harassment or because of the fact the higher ups were pushing for a game completely different from his vision.
Agreed, and they clearly won. This isnt the OW2 I saw at Blizzcon. I miss daddy Jeff 😢
That or all of the devs that actually knew how to make the game run either left or got fired during the harassment claims and allegations. They might've been shit human but at least they were competent at making the game work. The members of OW2's dev team still can't fix bugs from the games launch almost 2 weeks later on a live service game. Absolute clowns. The worst part is that OW2 isn't even a big change from OW1 -- it's really more like Overwatch 1 just with a new UI and that's about it. Same Engine, same models, same graphics. How can those clowns work on a "sequel" for 3 years and the stuff that was supposed to make it a sequel (the campaign / story mode, though no one really gives two fucks about that) isn't it released along with the game, lmao.
I mean the man set out to do one game that got canned halfway, told to use whatever assets he had from it, with a skeleton crew at that, as ppl got shifted to other projects, and make something out of it, managed to pull a rabbit out of that hat and OW1 hit top marks, gets on to OW2 and most likely than not couldn't enforce the philosophy the game had had till then and just calls it quits , and voila OW 1.1 now show me the money.. just sad to see yet another title follow a trend that should have been rooted out years ago -_-
This just further confirms what I've suspected for years now. Uninstalling the Battle net launcher along with all related content had been the best decision I've ever made. The struggle with sunken cost fallacy was real but I'm glad to say that I'd rather sink my costs into literally anything but Activision Blizzard.
Same. I’ve not once regretted having my account canceled with Blizzard.
Word. Maybe the takeaway would be realizing that you can sink cost into anything, and not be glad about another opportunity to do so 😳
Except starcraft 2, at least they didn't ruin that.
But mah Crash 4, man
@@Kurokami112 its on steam
I found it weird that they removed the "on fire" mechanic, but the heroes still say "I'm on fire!"
I love how this game gave the new character Kiriko an entire short film to advertise her, but then wants the player to grind to Level 55 to even play as her. It's like Blizzard wants you to despise them for doing stuff like this.
Free bonus? That's gonna take like 200 or 300 hours to reach
Anyone can play her 😂
reminder that level 55 is nearly 70% of the season pass.
Why you don't hate Acti-Blizz already? You live under a rock or something?
@@Bodwaizer Oh I always did. I'm just pointing out another problem that Blizzard didn't bother to think about before executing it.
It's not lazy at all. I'm sure they had to work real hard to break so many things so bad...
Jesus Christ is the propitiation for the whole world's sins. They that believeth and are baptized (with the Holy Spirit) shall be saved; but they that believeth not shall be damned. Those led by the Holy Spirit do not abide in wickedness.
*God is ONE manifesting himself as THREE;* the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! Bless him! *For these three are one.*
As I am led by the Holy Spirit, nothing I state is a lie, but the truth of God. Anyone who tells you differently is misinformed or a liar. They do not know God, nor led by him.
Anyone who *claims* to be a Christian and is against what I am doing, and where I am doing it; the Holy Spirit does not dwell within them, they lack understanding. They know not God, read his word, and their religion is in vain. Do not hear them, they will mislead you, the lost cannot guide the lost.
When you trust in God and cast your cares (worries, anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts) upon him, they will be NO MORE!
Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals!
The world is wicked, evil, and of the devil.
I too, was a wicked sinner of the world before I opened my heart to God. I am living proof of God's work and fruitfulness! He is an active God who hears the prayers of his! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous. The devil is a liar that comes to steal, to kill, and to destroy; that includes your relationship with God!
Open your heart to God, repent of your sins (he will forgive you), and let him direct your path. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands and purify your heart, lest you walk with the devil and follow him to hell.
ye at this point, it feels to me more like a game that made by some no name company trying to copy overwatch, and this is the result. Some lame game mode [push] inferior UI and money grab, and even lamer reworks. Of course if it would be like that, who knows, maybe they would make more fun heroes copied from the originals. Truly incredible how they managed to make a step back in like every direction.. it actually is incredible. They had a working system...unbelievable
@@Call_Upon_YAH Literally nobody cares.
@@Call_Upon_YAH why are you commenting on this.
Well, you were right about most things. Main problem I’m seeing is the merging, I tried to merge a PC account to my 3 year old Xbox account and it removed all of my skins and basically deleted the account. Tried contacting Blizzard support, they deleted my first support ticket, 2nd ticket they hit me with an automated response. They couldn’t care less about the money and time I put into that account.
I lost all my skin, but I was on pc
I thought the same thing, but it turned out my account just hadn’t finished merging yet. I hadn’t noticed the option at the bottom of the main menu where it shows you the progress of the merge.
Now we know that Overwatch 2 wasn't just a lazy sequel, *it wasn't even a sequel.*
It's wild to see how crazy anti-toxicity measures are getting: limiting audio chat, recording and transcribing player audio, asking for the player's personal data. I understand some players might become annoying and insulting when they lose matches. But this is breaching personal privacy. Is this even legally allowed? Hope other game companies don't follow through.
Extorting personal data is probably for ad selling purposes as usual. As for everything else, they want to pretend they ""fight toxicity""" while doing nothing to actually weed out the toxic scum they've been spoiling for two decades by rewarding smurfing and toxic tactics, because they would lose a bit of money from the toxic scum in the process.
Censorship is out of hand
This whole "muh privacy" bitching is kinda cringe. What is it your everyday mouth breather have that is so valuable nobody can find out about it? Nobody gives a fuck about what you're doing unless you're investigated for an actual crime you committed.
Well better question would be why can't people behave? Why do they have to act like morons while playing video games? What personal privacy, you already accepted the terms, when you installed and started the game? If someone can't behave online games there should be consequences simple as that (which is usually just short ban or permaban). Why should game companies let some people let ruin the fun for the most people?
It only takes one idiot to ruin the fun for the rest so what do you expect will happen.
@@frozello14 because it's a video game. You're supposed to have fun, even if it's trash talking.
Also thank you for actually reviewing this game fairly with context unlike other youtubers.
I mean yeah,that often happens. Say what needs to be on the things that need it,not otherwise.
Well this "sequel" is stupid. Doesn't really need context
@@bldontmatter5319 but it’s also not the actual release. That comes when the campaign shows up. What they did instead was effectively a mega patch on their multiplayer to keep that hype going until they can finish up the campaign. This isn’t the entirety of overwatch 2 and it wasn’t supposed to be either, but blizzard is terrible at marketing so it was misconstrued as such by basically everyone.
@@solkvist8668 What's disabling everyone's heroes got to do with the campaign not being out yet? Get a grip.
@@Ryno2094 no one who owned ow1 had their heros locked
You forget to mention the potted plant they added in the attack spawn on Gibraltar. That's some game-changing stuff right there, definitely a legit sequel
I subscribed. Instead of the corny toxic gamer review style most people do, you actually provide constructive criticism of games, highlight positives, and seem like you actually want games to be good rather than jump on some hate bandwagon. Very hard to find real reviews on TH-cam, this is a good channel.
I didn’t realize how much I took for granted, like leveling up or voting for people at the end of the game
Fun fact bastion’s super was broken because of a glitch after the server issues were fixed, he’s still not available in character selection as of writing this…
That sucks. He was one of my favorite dps characters. :(
Wait so dunkey wasnt even meme'ing, bastion was actually to bugged to be in the game on launch?
Jesus fucking christ.
They barely removed him just about three days ago so they can rework on him hopefully they’ll bring him back soon or at least the next battle pass.
My friends would always play Overwatch 1, but I was hesitant to pay so much for what was essentially Paladins. When I heard the sequel was free, I got excited and downloaded it on day 1. After waiting several days for the servers to figure themselves out, I realized that I didn't even enjoy the game. Totally worth it.
yea, I never got 1 because Paladins was right there and I was a fan of Smite.
but at least for me, I was after the custom games, and I'm loving the Endless Dungeon custom and hope once workshop is out, and then pve is there will be more fun like that.
I just waited 2 weeks and then i played it, and everything was smooth
Sadly, Paladins fell into a pit of garbage.
@@1x5x7 paladins wayyy too much changes and over OP (yes i write correctly).. i miss the Beta paladin where u get to explore a bit riding horses and ingame cards are more interesting than now.
@@jukkininth4837 Eh updates these days are too little changes lol, it is always new hero, new skins and new battle pass and that is the only thing that comes out. New bugs is also added with each updates…
3:06 this aged well. Tbh it's sadder that we won't get the Act Man review on the pve than it is not getting the pve itself lol
As someone who plays a lotta comp there's one thing I wanted to add that I feel like you missed (fantastic video btw I agree with everything you're saying!), the ranking system and matching is kind of a clusterfuck right now? They've removed SR and replaced it with what it is now (kinda like a tier thing ig?), which is a nice change of pace cause now I don't feel like I'm dancing around the same numbers for the rest of eternity. But now instead of losing or gaining SR each match you win/lose, you rank up or down for every 7 wins or 20 loses that you have (whichever comes first). Which makes the balancing feel very weird at times cause I can't help but feel that I either just curb stomped a bunch of bronze players or just got steam rolled by a bunch of top 500s. This was an issue in Overwatch 1at times but I've noticed it a lot more with this game than the original, and I know there are other comp players who feel the same. I dunno maybe with time it'll better? more of the same? I'm not particularly sure but I do think its something worth mentioning
Took me ages to get out of bronze but since I've been in silver the games feel 'easier' or at least more fun. No one's getting steamrolled but wins are more regular since moving ranks. I doubt I simply got better over a day or something, but at least in my experience bronze was more often than not one team absolutely rinsing the other
Matchmaking will probably be screwed for a while because there are so many people coming back to try overwatch 2 that haven't played for years (and therefore don't have a rank yet) but were/are really good. Meanwhile there is also a flood of new players as well.
0:46
I love this man. That flinch, the realization, the table smack/facepalm/kneeslap combo.
and you forgot the "FUCK!" at the end.
Newest addition is bastion being removed from the game for his ult becoming spammable. Also dunno if you care about nit picks but they did add cover / terrain to maps in certain spots that originally didn't have them, removing a lot of open spaces from old maps making them easier to hold instead of just dead zones.
Adding 3 cars does not undo the shit sniper fest that is junkertown
@@mrazbyte3150 Oh no, a map is good for a specific type of character? How could they, i wanted to play my main on every map with fixed success!
@@all4me501 Fr
this. first games i started in OW 2 after a long hiatus from OW 1_the other team setup a bastion turret_& it was just impossible_it wasnt like that in OW 1_i guess people figured out how to spam it_then flooded to OW 2 to merc everyone who's rusty_& yea i had to quit after about 2 rounds of bastion turrets
@@all4me501 jokes on you, my main works on every map with fixed success
@The Act Man
I'm waiting for the follow-up Act Man I know you will deliver a very entertaining video.
As someone who just started Overwatch 1 just before 2's release, I was pleasantly surprised that the grinding for loot boxes rewarded you with in game currency that felt like it would get me skins within a semi-reasonable amount of time. I also appreciated that the medal system shows how well you did even when you were on the losing team. Needless to say, Overwatch 2 only has the 5 v 5 thing going for it now. Big yikes.
Yeah, and the stuff you like about 5v5 could've been accomplished within the 6v6 format. They didn't need to nuke the entire soul of the game to remove some CC or stop Double Shield.
As someone who played a lot of Overwatch one for a long time, and even tended to buy lootboxes during seasonal events for the cool skins, I'm fucking appalled at what Overwatch 2 did to the progression/monetization
Fuck battlepasses, I liked the damn lootboxes in Overwatch. At least you got them for free for playing the game
I only bought Overwatch 1 for the Diablo III wings lol. Never played that shit.
I agree with the loot boxes thing but the removal of medals and implementation of a scoreboard is so much better. I can now tell what exactly my teammates are doing and why the one healer has somehow less healing than soldier and roadhog( it’s always kiriko)
And its free to play
Something you missed about the new voice lines is the Apex style pings and callouts. Being able to just ping where somebody is flanking is very useful when playing with no-mic randos and they seem to have added callouts. The only one I have heard so far tho is the one about being outnumbered. Very useful to be getting an audio cue along with the visual one.
Too bad nobody pays attention to pings
@@Kurokami112 I actually didn't know pinging was a thing in this game, how do you even do it? (I'm on xbox)
@@Anonymys43 if you don't have it bound already, head to options, scroll down to communication controls, and there should be an option to bind one of your buttons to pinging.
I'm glad you pointed out the progression in OW2. At first, I couldn't really figure out why the game felt so dull. After seeing this video, it dawned on me that there really isn't any incentive to play this game continuously besides ranked to get the gold guns. Tbh it's saddening. Anyways great video!
The motivation to play overwatch 1 was to level up and earn free lootboxes, now you can’t…
@@DemiCape Motivation is whatever you want it to be, if leveling up is your drug of choice then a battlepass number should also be, clearly its not so maybe you have to rethink some things. Playing this game is itself enough of a rewarding experience and like every other game, "progression" is nothing more than levels after a while.
@@scotttimbrell8632 except in the first game every level up gave you a loot box. every single time. Which is free. The battlepass has locked content for pay only. so your argument already failed its point. don't tell people how to think. you like the battle pass. they dont. its that simple.
@@Rosietea No you miss-understood my point. We were talking about levels, the number that goes up. Not the reward for leveling, and if you want to be accurate once you get high enough levels you don't receive loot boxes EVERY level. Either way, you can think that getting a loot box is progression, I would argue that getting a bunch of random cosmetics everytime a number hits a certain amount isn't that different from getting number when a number hits a certain amount. What you fail to understand is that players like to see number go up, always have done and is the main point for a lot of games, META leveling is what players crave, not rewards for leveling, that's just a bonus. So leveling the battlepass, despite not earning for it is fine for progression. Think call of duty, people liked to prestige because new number goes up, some people didn't and that's fine. But now it's a seasonal thing and some people like to rank up again and some people don't, either way you get no rewards for doing so. And Im not telling people WHAT to think, I'm telling people what people think, because unfortunately for you, people display behaviours that are predictable and samey, hence how game development is a formula in order to get players to play their games. Think of FOMO, or other exploits that force people into thinking a certain way, I'm not telling people it's okay to feel like they are missing out, but that's exactly what they do feel.
@@DemiCape I agree. I really did like the progression levels in OW1, it was a lot of fun seeing my levels go up, get XP, and show off a bit and strive for the next level. It was another element that I miss and was really disappointed that it was not in OW2. I guess competitive ranks will be my new "level" for now, but it's not like its different from OW1...so idk how fun thats going to be.
All these videos crapping on OW2 back in the day are going to need an update.
Been subbed to the channel since 2017, you’re the GOAT, Mr. Act! Thank you for all your awesomeness over the years!
@@dontreadprofilephoto1728 i love balls
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Let’s just be honest games just been getting killed over an over an while they killing the game they also playing us for our money an milking the in game store
@@Mrzayskates This applies to almost every AAA company, and it's saddening
One minor correction I would like to add here is that specifically the phone number thing was not soo much a fight against toxic behavior but more an attempt to fight cheaters. As we all know cheating is becoming an increasingly larger issue in games and even more so in F2P shooters. I'm not necessary saying the way they did it was correct or executed well.
It's for smurfs, not cheaters.
@@Relhio And account selling. That was a MAJOR but very overlooked issue as well
@@GeneralZimmer Ironically I'd have to buy an account to play now since they don't take my cellular carrier. Not that I'd want to play this trash anyway. I quit the original OW during s2 and never looked back.
It’s so bizarre hearing the tonal shift from the development of OW to OW2.
I bought into the hype of Overwatch back in 2014-15. At that time, one of my favorite TH-cam creators, Star_, had been transitioning away from TF2 as his primary focus.
Having played TF2 for years, it was exciting to see a good polished competitor coming out by Blizzard. And it was a good comparison, because most of my friends and I had spent a huge amount of time in TF2.
There was the small things, like an appreciation for the net code, where platforms didn’t glitch out on you, and the payload was more dynamic. That the devs were making map and hero adjustments in the betas and post-launch like removing bastion’s shield and moving assets around to block sight lines.
Then there was the promise of lore. If I remember correctly, the FPS game that we got in OW was a portion of a larger shelved IP that Blizzard had already sunk a huge amount of resources into expanding. And it looked promising, with the gorgeous shorts to compare against a game that Valve seemed to be leaving to die.
Now, I’m not sure anyone that worked on OW then is left. After so many scandals and bad actors, it looks like this was a game created by algorithm, with no dev input past the visuals.
For many years now, Overwatch has felt like a game that is played by streamers exclusively. They are the ones that make noise when things happen now regarding game balance, essentially acting as the community managers whenever things happen. And the idea that Blizzard seems to be up-charging them to promote this game seems scummy as hell.
An additional point, the phrasing of the PvE content being released as “seasonal content” is worrying, because that suggests that there’s going to be additional paywalls for accessing all of it, and that it’s still not going be finished at that point.
A return to tf2
3:07 looks like you called it.
A similar effect happened with New Coke in the 80s. They tried to replace the thing everyone liked with no option of reverting back and people were so furious they made them undo the change. Wonder what will happen here.
You saw the EmpLemon video too didn't ya'? That said, I agree with your judgement: most likely they're going the route of "We're doubling / triplicating the rate of coins you get, so it's not as bad :)" despite still being 2.5 months for a legendary skin.
Agreed, coke should've remained powdered coke, the world didn't need crack cocaine.
"...but I strongly suggest that you don't buy anything from this game until Blizzard stops being a money-first company and starts being a player-first company."
This. Definitely this. If a company puts you first, then they've earned your money. If you reward an unhealthy business practice, it'll only get worse. Still, great video as always, Mr. Acting Male. Your insight remains on point.
They added like 12+ voice lines specifically using McCree's new name to shove it down everyone's throats. He had like ONE voice line before saying "The name's McCree" and now he, and other characters that should have no knowledge of his name change, all call him by the new one.
He will always be McCree no matter what
All they needed to do was have him be like "Aight changing my name cause I'm wanted." and that's it. But nah, just forced on us to cover their tracks thinking a name change will do anything.
@@ItsScapeGoated that’s how they usually handle it. Very clumsily
they just could choose something better than Cassidy 🤣
@@Isami510 they could have just changed his first name. Cuz McCree is just him no matter what
Funny how the game is "free" yet you need an expensive phone plan or to have bought OW 1 to play it.
It's almost like it's not actually free...
It makes me happy to say my friends and I have been having a blast with this game. But I would not dream of giving Activision Blizzard any of my funds.
the best revenge against a free to play a game with crappy business practices = play the s*** out of it enjoy the hell out of it and never spend a freaking Penny on it
@@BlazingInferno00 no it is not lol. You're just helping to push up their player count....
@@MrHusami11 that doesn’t make sure that every player spends money
@@MrHusami11 Player count doesn't translate to real money. And if I can enjoy a game without servicing their greed then I may as well do just that. Also the way I see it when a company sees disappointing player counts they give up on it and let it die. At least if they see high player counts with low spending they MIGHT (keyword here) change it instead of kill it. Nobody likes to see decent games die cuz of terrible business practices
@@BlazingInferno00 Spittin' fax
I've always viewed Battle Passes as predatory monetization meant to fleece players into continuously spending money.
Overwatch 2 just confirms my biases even further, given how predatory the game's Battle Pass system appears to be.
Devil's advocate here: how else do they make money from it? It's free now
@@geodude03 what they were doing before. The only problem with that is that they weren't making literally all the money in the world so obviously it wasn't good enough. /S
Yeah. They can be done right though. There are battle passes where you can earn enough currency at the end of the season to get the next battle pass for free. Pretty sure Fortnite does that.
it all started with fortnight my most hated game.
I remember years ago, when Blizzard were known for the unmatched polish of their games. Gone are the days.
They still are know for unmatched polish. Unmatched polish of their greedy bullshitry.
I also remember Warcraft being a story about bloody war between orcs and humans, and not cartoonish orkys and humies.
Good times huh.
Some years back when lootboxes were being questioned over legality, I remember some developer saying something along the lines of "the alternative is a lot worse. You are going to wish you didnt do this"
@@supajero And the alternative was Free To Play= no effort and Battle Passes that became mainstream because Fortnite made so much money from it
I've never even played Overwatch but hearing all this disastrous stuff about the launch is absolutely hilarious.
the phrase "i got this thing free and still feel like i got robbed" sums up my feelings perfectly, i remember being a young teen and playing this game in the mid 2010's and i loved it.. most of the time, but absolutely loved it, however i eventually sold my 100 dollar version of the game (im in australia so american prices dont translate to us very well) because i just kept losing and lost interest overall but then i hear the announcement of OW2 and im excited to try it out but.. its the same game and now free, yeah im not sure on the technicality of these moves but i feel robbed and will never be giving such a disgusting developer my money the fact i had to give my phone number and all this other contact information made me uncomfortable too
$100?!?
Eh, there's other games I would rather install on my pc than OW2.
The current state of the game rn, is just poorly done. And basically just taking (stealing) the space needed for worthwhile games.
Bruh Over watch wasn't even released yet in 2010. Stop the cap.
@@thecosmicalien7891 He said "mid 2010's." As in around 2013-2017
idk why ppl are saying it’s the same game bro. removing one tank literally changes everything. what else did u want them to do, make the game battle royale? lmao