That's my boy John's bike in the back. I convinced him to get his motor done by Moonshine. We loaded up the trailer and drove from Jersey. You still can't get the smile off his face!!! Great job Moonshine!!
The intake side is impressive and gets better with porting. The issue with the heads is the exhaust side. It can be fixed somewhat but doing so is expensive. Notice the popular grinds for the M8 have 15+ degrees exhaust added duration, this is by plan to help the poor exhaust port.
Yes, a four-valve head is generally superior to a two-valve but I'm not buying a new motorcycle. 100+ hp and 115+ lb/ft of torque rear wheel will have to do on my 2014 RK. Love the vids.
Bigger ports not always better.....some of these heads we actually find more velocity is better so the ports are actually welded,moved and made smaller. But whatever sells....
So if you get past the factory warranty with out getting flagged the esp will cove some of the cost of the repairs even if the bike has a 124 built motor ?
Curious to know what type of Engine Management you guys prefer. I'm leaning towards Thundermax. Pricing a moderate 124" build. Heads may or may not be in my budget.
The biggest benefit to a Thundermax ECM is you get to keep your OEM ECM stock and can always reinstall it if there is any issue. 124 w/o heads or TB respond very well to SS475 cam. I would get bigger injectors.
Wow. Jersey Plates...My neck of the woods. Whats he in for? Love your videos. Been considering bringing my 19 SGS down to you guys for some power upgrades. Trying to figure out the logistics.
Have one question I used to do 107's 5 years ago made 130 horse all day long and torque why aren't the 107 M8 making this power to head out flows it help me to understand this
When casting remember to motion your fishing pole away from your body so as to not catch your fishing hook in your nose. Probably need to practice a whole lot more before using a surface lures as the tend to have clusters of three hooks.
Does the power vision allow you to change the throttle response on the new fly by wire bikes, I have a FP3 but it’s worthless on the speed limiter but so far I’m ok with it but I been hearing the power vision will get me a little more out of bike then the FP3
@@kainalugreig4639 the updated firmware of fp3 allows you to remove speed limiter. Just did mine this weekend. th-cam.com/video/IUlIP2eZYGk/w-d-xo.html
I’d love to take my 2012 road glide V-twin, 103, to a 124 we use it to travel it’s a touring model what would that take? I have 54 Andrews in it S&S quickies thunder Macs, auto tuner, Vance, and Hines true duels on it now. 😎🤔🥃🥃🥃🍻🍻
When he said turbulence lol I had too laugh . thoses head are the noisyest heads I ever had on my flow bench they flow more air at half lift then a twinCam at full lift! they don't need all the work you think lol
Gabriel Martin it depends on what you need and already have. Depending on the level of motor we build it can range from $5k to $10k. If you’d like us to see what it would cost for your build give Aaron or Jamie a call 615-450-1642
David Blagg a 143 is an awesome Twin Cam set up from S&S and we have installed several. Just remember the bike will need a lot more parts to handle the new HP!
What is the difference in a m8 motor and a 4 valve evolution head Bob rat Taft was using a 114 evo with a 4 valve head in the early 90s rivera made the heads. While the heads are the major contributor to horsepower without the rest of the components of the motor have to match the heads cam profile valve spring pressure combustion chamber and piston profile .spiral well now I'm not going to tell all . You got decent stuff . I got a sportster combo stock bore and stroke 1200ccthat made 120 .2 hp to the rear wheel in 1997 at the ami horsepower shoot out and still had more don't believe me look it up it's also featured in the quick throttle mag archives .
Question.. I and most of my friends who own 2017 and new Harley’s are experiencing some serious speed wobbles on our bikes usually while taking wide swiping corners at 100 mile a hour plus. Do you know what this is happening? And is so what’s the solution? I’ve heard everything from swing arm bushings to motor mounts
Hey Gerry i have a 2019 RG i have not noticed the wobble yet but i did have a 2008 road king that did it terrible i put a GLIDE PRO on it and it took it away
Gerry Arseneau Call Moonshine Harley-Davidson and ask for me Jamie Lima and I’ll get you fixed up, 615-771-7775. I need to know more about the bike and situation before I can help.
Tire pressures Tire pressures Tire pressures.......bout 5-6 here not a wobble in 20k to 96k on them. But we run way more tire pressure than the MOCO and also only run Avons......50 rear 39-41 front.....rock steady
cavscout62 it really depends on the head configuration we decide to use. Usually 2-3 weeks but we try to keep a couple done sets at the shop ready to go.
Thanks for the reply Jamie, I appreciate it. Also have y’all run into much of the cocked seats that I keep hearing about in the M8 heads? Curious because I’m finding really good deals on low mile ‘17 & ‘18’s.
cavscout62 We haven’t seen one yet. It’s super rare I guess or someone has done something incorrect. We’ve built well over 200 M8’s and haven’t seen that issue.
Danny Standish Hell yeah! Please call Aaron our HP Manager at the shop Tuesday - Saturday and he’ll get it set up. Moonshine Harley-Davidson 615-771-7775.
If these heads are so good and I agree they flow more why don’t they make more horsepower five years ago I had 107 kits in twin cam for making 130 hp and torque how come there aren’t any 107 Milwaukee eights making that kind of power and I can’t find anybody else to answer that question for me
@@bobberguy1 Had a '83FLT shovelhead for about 14 yrs and the only thing I done to it was change the fluids and put head gaskets on it. And it was a running, cruising bike! Very dependable! GOT rear ended by another Harley and got totaled.
You want turbulence, just like in the 1920s. Direct injection exists and is much better, but would make harley spend a few extra pennies for their customers. Add to that their new warranty forcing us to stick to their breadcrums
J L Just a reminder that Moonshine Harley-Davidson warranty’s the motors we build. If you need something or have questions regarding our warranty please contact Jamie Lima 615-771-7775.0
Here's a FRIENDLY challenge guys. I'm finalizing a set of heads now for one of my 100 inch twin cams. 2 valves per of course, single plug, But, a individual carb per head, so yes 2 carburetors, but not fuelie. Apple's to apples as far as cubes, 100 inch max, and a dyno challenge for torque. You in ??? Anything goes, except the engine displacement. In fact, I may give you 10 percent, so you're engine can be 110. Thank you guys. Friendly dyno shoot out, I'm not being a internet douche. Compression and cam profiles are unlimited, but only 93 octane Chevron pump gas. Thanks, RIDE ON. Oh, and my heads are NOT billet.
Did this cat just say that he goes to the lake to see men? I'm not homophobic but he's definitely killing some of my preconceived stereotypes. I guess if the biker from the village people floats your boat he picked the right place to work. No wonder he kept saying that they were going to talk about head. Luckily he doesn't talk with a homemade lisp or I'd have struggled to get through the video and it did contain some interesting information....
That's my boy John's bike in the back. I convinced him to get his motor done by Moonshine. We loaded up the trailer and drove from Jersey. You still can't get the smile off his face!!! Great job Moonshine!!
Sam Mooney that’s why we do this. You guys rock!
And this is why harley will never die. Glad you guys are supporting the customers and building the engines we wish harley would build to begin with.
its not harley wont harley cant thanks to the people we vote into office .
In the spirit of this video, we are actually shooting a Twin Cam Build Video right now. Stay tuned...
yessss thank you!!!!
Do you finance engine builds with the bike?
I can vouch for these guys. I just purchased a 2019 RG and they built a 124 for me...HOLY SHIT ! Hang on when you twist the throttle boys !
David Blagg not sure about the 143 but I had a typical Stage IV on my last bagger with some extras and it would be like a Vette to a Lambo...
@@davidblagg2576 in price not sure, but in built quality S&S is MUCH better than harley
@Joseph Marton New version of OCC...hay Moe hay Larry
Ricky Bobby modern verttes are as fast or faster than lambos lol. Especially the ZR1 or C8
You guys are Soooo Good !
I can't stop watching .... Super High Quality Videos , the editing is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you.
Harley Davidson heads were wondering how much the cost for ported heads costs.
The intake side is impressive and gets better with porting. The issue with the heads is the exhaust side. It can be fixed somewhat but doing so is expensive. Notice the popular grinds for the M8 have 15+ degrees exhaust added duration, this is by plan to help the poor exhaust port.
Kick ass warranty! No more worries about warranty!!!!!
You guys are awesome with that deal!
Thanx for the explanations. Understand things better.
Coming from Indiana in Oct to get the 128 on my Road Glide cant wait to twist the grip on it
Yes, a four-valve head is generally superior to a two-valve but I'm not buying a new motorcycle. 100+ hp and 115+ lb/ft of torque rear wheel will have to do on my 2014 RK. Love the vids.
LMFAO Love your videos ...I want a set of those heads for my M8 SG
Can I put a Milwaukee 8 on a twin cam engine 103
Bigger ports not always better.....some of these heads we actually find more velocity is better so the ports are actually welded,moved and made smaller. But whatever sells....
We match the heads to the builds. All the heads in the video are going on increased displacement engines.
So if you get past the factory warranty with out getting flagged the esp will cove some of the cost of the repairs even if the bike has a 124 built motor ?
Freedom Rider ESP doesn’t care if your bike was Flagged. That’s only matters during your factory 2 year warranty.
I’m looking into header pipes. My two choices are fullsac 2-2
Curious to know what type of Engine Management you guys prefer. I'm leaning towards Thundermax. Pricing a moderate 124" build. Heads may or may not be in my budget.
The biggest benefit to a Thundermax ECM is you get to keep your OEM ECM stock and can always reinstall it if there is any issue. 124 w/o heads or TB respond very well to SS475 cam. I would get bigger injectors.
@@NoName-vz1ob 5.5g?
@@misterj5045 6.2
Wow. Jersey Plates...My neck of the woods. Whats he in for? Love your videos. Been considering bringing my 19 SGS down to you guys for some power upgrades. Trying to figure out the logistics.
BigCheez He called us and brought a new Street Glide and got one of our motor builds day one!!!
Have one question I used to do 107's 5 years ago made 130 horse all day long and torque why aren't the 107 M8 making this power to head out flows it help me to understand this
Just bought a 2020 Road King Special and want to get it done up right.. cam, intake and exhaust
Can you guys build an 124 or 128 that can be a be a torque monster down low and have longevity
We have biggens on the road approaching 10k.
Dj Morgan Absolutely. Call Aaron at the shop and he’ll go over the options. 615-771-7775 Moonshine Harley-Davidson.
How can we quiet the m8 counter balance gear system. Bike sounds like a victory.
Joe C We can remove it!
Moonshine Harley that would
Be a great video to see
Looking to upgrade head pipes either jackpot or fulsac 2-1-2 which is better. What do you recommend?
Sounds great!
Where are yous sending your heads to? Branch?
When casting remember to motion your fishing pole away from your body so as to not catch your fishing hook in your nose. Probably need to practice a whole lot more before using a surface lures as the tend to have clusters of three hooks.
Definite advice for Mikey
How do you by pass the speed limiter?
With Powervision.
Does the power vision allow you to change the throttle response on the new fly by wire bikes, I have a FP3 but it’s worthless on the speed limiter but so far I’m ok with it but I been hearing the power vision will get me a little more out of bike then the FP3
@@kainalugreig4639 yes you can change throttle. Powervision is very comprehensive.
@@kainalugreig4639 the updated firmware of fp3 allows you to remove speed limiter. Just did mine this weekend. th-cam.com/video/IUlIP2eZYGk/w-d-xo.html
HeavyHustlaz yeah mine is up to date it has the option but it doesn’t work tried about 14 times
going have to come up from Alabama to check y’all out
Please do!
I’d love to take my 2012 road glide V-twin, 103, to a 124 we use it to travel it’s a touring model what would that take? I have 54 Andrews in it S&S quickies thunder Macs, auto tuner, Vance, and Hines true duels on it now. 😎🤔🥃🥃🥃🍻🍻
What about a worked hurricane head?
On a 124+ TC it would no doubt be a monster!
Any of you guys going to the Bring It Home Parade on Oct 5, Hope to finally meet you guys...........
No we are going to be working.
Do you sell ported heads and pistons to match for a 128 build?
What’s in the center hole of the M8 heads? I know the 2 side holes are the spark plugs. Is it a direct fuel injector?
Compression release
When he said turbulence lol I had too laugh . thoses head are the noisyest heads I ever had on my flow bench they flow more air at half lift then a twinCam at full lift! they don't need all the work you think lol
Next video up - M8 head bolts are breaking. :)
What's a 124 upgrade gonna start at?
Gabriel Martin it depends on what you need and already have. Depending on the level of motor we build it can range from $5k to $10k. If you’d like us to see what it would cost for your build give Aaron or Jamie a call 615-450-1642
David Blagg a 143 is an awesome Twin Cam set up from S&S and we have installed several. Just remember the bike will need a lot more parts to handle the new HP!
What is the difference in a m8 motor and a 4 valve evolution head
Bob rat Taft was using a 114 evo with a 4 valve head in the early 90s rivera made the heads.
While the heads are the major contributor to horsepower without the rest of the components of the motor have to match the heads cam profile valve spring pressure combustion chamber and piston profile .spiral well now I'm not going to tell all . You got decent stuff . I got a sportster combo stock bore and stroke 1200ccthat made 120 .2 hp to the rear wheel in 1997 at the ami horsepower shoot out and still had more don't believe me look it up it's also featured in the quick throttle mag archives .
NITRO MIKE That was the start of it. Now it’s a larger head on a platform that has less problems.
Question..
I and most of my friends who own 2017 and new Harley’s are experiencing some serious speed wobbles on our bikes usually while taking wide swiping corners at 100 mile a hour plus.
Do you know what this is happening? And is so what’s the solution?
I’ve heard everything from swing arm bushings to motor mounts
Hey Gerry i have a 2019 RG i have not noticed the wobble yet but i did have a 2008 road king that did it terrible i put a GLIDE PRO on it and it took it away
todd and mindy morris hi Todd.. what is the pro glide plus?
Gerry Arseneau Call Moonshine Harley-Davidson and ask for me Jamie Lima and I’ll get you fixed up, 615-771-7775. I need to know more about the bike and situation before I can help.
Tire pressures Tire pressures Tire pressures.......bout 5-6 here not a wobble in 20k to 96k on them. But we run way more tire pressure than the MOCO and also only run Avons......50 rear 39-41 front.....rock steady
Ck out big bear choppers TH-cam or Instagram, that os if you want flawless suspension performane
Will M8 heads bolt to twin cam jugs.
No!
THANKS!
how much do you guys charge for just head work on Average?
It all depends on the engine combination, displacement, compression ratio etc. Call Aaron and we can get started on a setup for you. 615-771-7775
Turbulance we want it yeah 👍👍👍
😆😆😆
Where are you guys located ?
Moonshineharley.com
Franklin, TN
15 minutes south of Nashville
615-274-4170
I bought my dyna from jamie. He knows his shit.
Greg Shubert Thanks Greg!!!
So what’s the turn around time for Branch to work the heads and get em back to y’all?😎
cavscout62 it really depends on the head configuration we decide to use. Usually 2-3 weeks but we try to keep a couple done sets at the shop ready to go.
Thanks for the reply Jamie, I appreciate it. Also have y’all run into much of the cocked seats that I keep hearing about in the M8 heads? Curious because I’m finding really good deals on low mile ‘17 & ‘18’s.
cavscout62 We haven’t seen one yet. It’s super rare I guess or someone has done something incorrect. We’ve built well over 200 M8’s and haven’t seen that issue.
Why don’t you guys shop to and from California?
CARB. Elect different government officials and maybe we will be able to...
You guys work on 98 fatboy?
Danny Standish If it’s a Harley we can handle it.
@@jamielima5315 kool beans
@@jamielima5315 im lookin to put a v124evo and a 6speed in it this spring need someone to do the work
Danny Standish Hell yeah! Please call Aaron our HP Manager at the shop Tuesday - Saturday and he’ll get it set up. Moonshine Harley-Davidson 615-771-7775.
@@jamielima5315 thats awesome! Thanks for the info!!
If these heads are so good and I agree they flow more why don’t they make more horsepower five years ago I had 107 kits in twin cam for making 130 hp and torque how come there aren’t any 107 Milwaukee eights making that kind of power and I can’t find anybody else to answer that question for me
Can I send you my heads for port work ?
Bad Azz Machines Yes. Call Aaron at Moonshine Harley-Davidson 615-771-7775.
Bad Azz Machines Yes. Call Aaron at Moonshine Harley-Davidson 615-771-7775.
@@jamielima5315 … Could you repeat that please ?
Mike looks fast as fuck with those glasses 😜😂😂😂😂
I have water cooled heads
Ride whatever you want! Me, I'll keep my old EVO Heritage, thanks! Dependability over speed!
Agreed. Every H-D I've owned will catch a speeding ticket. My '57 FL is dependable and I can work on it.
@@bobberguy1 Had a '83FLT shovelhead for about 14 yrs and the only thing I done to it was change the fluids and put head gaskets on it. And it was a running, cruising bike! Very dependable! GOT rear ended by another Harley and got totaled.
I have a 93 Heritage with a cam and Jim’s Hydrosolids and S&S carb. She does okay for an old Evo.
You want turbulence, just like in the 1920s. Direct injection exists and is much better, but would make harley spend a few extra pennies for their customers. Add to that their new warranty forcing us to stick to their breadcrums
J L Just a reminder that Moonshine Harley-Davidson warranty’s the motors we build. If you need something or have questions regarding our warranty please contact Jamie Lima 615-771-7775.0
Mike you don’t want turbulence. Do you want atomization.
Forget M8, where can i buy shades like that bro?🤣
trevor Walmart!😂🤣
With these special built per application heads along with your gas ported piston & rings will be killer men. Assume men . . . Assume
Wait, he put poop on the dishwasher?
4 valve heads kill 2 valve heads,,,,,,,,,F@cking DUH!
Haha
M8=exwife.....twin cam=new girl friend..
Terbalince
.....you're trying a little too hard.
Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
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What's with the tough guy attitude??? Just do the video & cool it with wannabe attitude already!!!
Just found the glasses and had some fun.
@Mike Greer I agree!
Here's a FRIENDLY challenge guys. I'm finalizing a set of heads now for one of my 100 inch twin cams. 2 valves per of course, single plug,
But, a individual carb per head, so yes 2 carburetors, but not fuelie. Apple's to apples as far as cubes, 100 inch max, and a dyno challenge for torque. You in ???
Anything goes, except the engine displacement. In fact, I may give you 10 percent, so you're engine can be 110. Thank you guys. Friendly dyno shoot out, I'm not being a internet douche. Compression and cam profiles are unlimited, but only 93 octane Chevron pump gas.
Thanks, RIDE ON. Oh, and my heads are NOT billet.
SARGE BULLDOG Hard to do when we are slammed with customer builds. Sorry brother! Sounds killer!!!
Did this cat just say that he goes to the lake to see men? I'm not homophobic but he's definitely killing some of my preconceived stereotypes. I guess if the biker from the village people floats your boat he picked the right place to work. No wonder he kept saying that they were going to talk about head. Luckily he doesn't talk with a homemade lisp or I'd have struggled to get through the video and it did contain some interesting information....
I don't want this guy wrenching on my bike,,,,,he can't even take off his sunglasses. How can anyone take him seriously???????
Hahaha should we be taking this comment seriously???????
Tim gear - "really I could care less, it's all about being good at what you do..
John Kolinoff and we are!