Ben Shapiro's Big Problems With Avengers: Endgame (SPOILERS)
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- Spoilers: Ben Shapiro gives his movie review on "Avengers: Endgame," the final entry in the Marvel Cinematic Universe's 'Infinity Saga' film franchise and explains the big problems with the film.
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I think you misunderstand Thor's character arc. He lost everything due to his arrogance so his progression into a depressed fat drunkard makes sense when you look at where he has come from and what he has lost. And it would have cheapens the consequences of his actions if they just magically fixed him and made him badass again. You can't undo years of regression with just a pep talk, though he now has the motivation to go on he needs to regain his status.
scarlett johansson is a great actor
My friend showed me an article that said that the entire thing about Endgame is that it is supposed to sacrifice plot to give a ton of fan service for people who’ve seen 22 movies. That doesn’t mean I like it, though.
Holy crap, Ben's is the first negative review I've seen so far.
Your life revolves around a CARTOON Character Movie!?
You're truly part of the Less-generation. Use-less, Worth-less and as always, Soul-less.
C’mon Ben, admit it. We all know you at least smirked when Thanos smacked Captain Marvel with the power stone.
We all did.
YES WE DID :D
I smirked when about 3/4 through the movie I realized that captain marvel has not been seen
@@Doomzdayxx same bro XD
I’ll be completely honest with everyone here. I thought her acting in end game was bad. Everyone else just seemed so much better than her. Maybe it’s cause I just don’t like her.
Yes I did!! lol But Thanos took too long to smack her ;)
Imagine walking into IMAX to see endgame and ben Shapiro sits next to you with his doctor
Zachariah Leslie his pet Jewish doctor
That got me good. 🤣
@@hayanyang it's a joke
Lmao with “his doctor”
"His doctor" ffs I'm dying XD
Captain America looks more like Joe Biden in the end lmao
You know--the thing...
No I don’t think I... why did I stop?
I mean he was over 100 years old dating like a 20-something year old
EWWWWW. Hope Captain America didn't molest children like Biden does.
"Falcon, I want you to have..... You know, the thing. The thing! Everyone knows it. Are you on crack? Where am I?"
I feel like Ben is too smart to enjoy anything
More like too pretentious to enjoy anything
He likes Star Wars
He's a fan of DC comics
He's not too smart to enjoy anything a lot of what he said here is pretty much wrong
@@jaysontatum01 how can a opinion be wrong?
Ben Shapiro ABSOLUTELY SHREDS avengers endgame with FEELINGS and OPINIONS
Manman shit u right
Facts dont CARE about ur OPINIONS
Manman that big ouch
Ehhhhh... I actually agree with him
Yeah because its a make believe movie. At least he's not bringing them into politics.
I love how he calls the other characters by their names but he calls iron man Robert Downey Jr.
He basically plays the same snarky guy
Really??? Well he’s right then
Tony: F.R.I.D.A.Y what's happening, what are they firing at?
F.R.I.D.A.Y: something just entered our upper atmosphere sir!
Tony:* *zooms in on captain marvel* *
TONY: oh, it's that OP bitch with dumbass haircut
Silver Linings he said those names referring to the actors while he used Robert Downey Junior to refer to Tony Stark
Cause they're the same person
She’s a doctor, folks.
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I read this in my poor Trump impression
I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the scene where all the female characters lined up...
That was such a needless ridiculous seen too lol!
@@shawnchavis2102 Takes one to know one. If you don't like one's opinion, that's your problem. Keep your triggered comment for triggered discussions.
Lawless yeah that was cringey.
@@shawnchavis2102 Dude That scene was dumb in every way, no matter how you spin it. All the females gathering conveniently in the same spot while all this is going on is stupid on every level. How did they know each other would be there? It’s just dumb. People are dying all around and they’re talking and posing with each other.
Tbh now that I think about it, that scene was the exact cause of Iron Man's death.
Captain America “Hail Hydra.” Hydra agents minds blown.
That was the best scene in the movie, lol
Imagine the reaction of the captain america of that reality if later in time one of those agents whispers him the “Hail Hydra”
So many good comic references in the movie!
Za Warudo I know it was awesome, I loved the movie even though there was some plot holes.
@@jorgevillarreal2245 bruuh that would cause Civil War and Winter Soldier to happen at the same time lmao
As much as i disagree, this has been by far the best anti endgame argument I’ve seen
Thats how u know hes a good debater. He could nearly convince you to emrbace an opinion u are strongly against
What he said about chris evans was kind of true in my opinion. I'm a big marvel fan and I've always had that feeling that Chris Evans could have done more for steve like his acting was to cool for what captain America rlly means, but yeah
He also doesnt know how strong base thanos is and how weak fat thor is
Right so true
I don't know, I don't really feel Ben's arguments here - I don't feel like it was a bad flick on its own, what bugged me were the the illogical parts and just stupid decisionmaking throughout the movie, including the major plot parts, like:
- how the f*ck did they return all the people at the same place when Earth moves at like 70 thousand miles an hour in forward motion and is never going to be at the same spot it was before
- like when they were talking about the time travel and basically sh*t on the logic of other time travel movies BUT THEN DO EXACTLY THE SAME THING
- It's just stupid how they try to make the entire world unable to move on 5 YEARS after the people get snapped away. Of course some people are going to cope slower than others but they portray the earth as a complete sh*thole where you couldn't get trash collecting services running after 5 years which is bullsh*t
- Why didn't Dr Strange or the chinese guy just snap Thanos' head off with those portals? Didn't they make exactly the same thing with some other folk's hand before?
- Thanos sending that cyborg girl (whom he knew had some loyalty issues before) for the EXTREMELLY important stone (or gauntlet, I don't remember) in the ruins of the avengers HQ instead of getting it himself... Surprise surprise he didn't get the item.
- When Captain America brought a good point about the bright side of the snap, mentioning how the wild life is slowly coming back, and the Black Widow basically just told him he's an idiot... Like no, no he isn't, he made a good point.
- More of a point about both Avengers movies, but... It was clearly shown that Thanos can turn people into some kind of jello with the red stone (like he did with the grey guy and the assassin girl before). Why didn't he do the same with all his enemies?
And stuff like that... Overall the movie was rather enjoyable, but purely from the visual side of things. The story was meh.
Love it when he says "with exception of black widow" and praises ScarJo's acting 😊
"Destroys all the main characters you care about in favor of ones you don't"
*cough* Captain Marvel *cough*
She's not main character.main character are the original six avengers
@@user-rv2oy9hl1k 1. they destory the characters we like and keep the ones we don't is what ben was saying.
Imagine Ben’s poor wife having to hear all this on the car ride home like what if she actually enjoyed the movie Ben😂
Then she can enjoy the movie while he dislikes it. I don't understand why many people that like a movie seem to require that everyone like the movie. Different strokes for different folks.
@@Bgrosz1 you wanna give me a stroke?
@@Bgrosz1 you're very stupid. 1. This isn't about simply liking or disliking something. 2. It was clearly a joke
@@otallono,
How is it not simply liking or disliking something? That's exactly what it is.
Bryon Grosz I completely agree, but I don’t think he was arguing that Ben should like it because otherwise it would upset his wife. I think he was just joking that his wife may have really enjoyed it, but then the whole ride home would have had to listen to someone explain why they didn’t enjoy it, which could potentially spoil the brief enjoyment she had😄
But tbh, we don’t even know if she did, but if she did and they started debating... well... it’s Ben 🤷🏻♂️
*Guys don't watch endgame it has too many spoilers*
Micah Bockisch never heard that before
i hope this is a joke
True, I would never watch that many spoilers in one movie
Druhrfe Hadishia that’s the joke dipshit
Austin Rush 🤣🤣
I don't think Thor was afraid. He's a man who lost literally everything, he's depressed
They wanted him to step asideforother characters. Stoner/drunk Thor was not funny or interesting.
@@Mowglibaloo2 agreed. They could have done the same thing, make him all depresso espresso, but why make him a fat, cheesy ass character who no one could possibly take seriously?
@@Mowglibaloo2 lol funny is subjective. He was definitely "interesting" because it was completely different than anything in the mcu.
@@Dutch_man20 clearly, he wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. U missed the point. The fact that u don't like that he was "put aside" isn't relevant because it was still effective for the other characters.
I thought it would have been funny for them to have him struck by lightning and have him cut his weight and say "It's a party trick."
3:20
Thanos sacrificed his daughter for a better world
Tony sacrificed himself for a better world for his daughter
@@andrebreville493 he means he thought the stakes would be sacrificing his daughter. But it ended up being sacrificing his life which is the same as what he does just flying around in each Iron Man movie prior.
I think what he doesn't get is they both put the lives of their "children" on the line which makes them so similar along with the curse of knowledge. So the story becomes on oneside you have this father worship and obedience for Thanos and the other side Tony bringing back his "son" Peter who he put in jeopardy by bringing him in all of this and Morgan who is so young and will grow up fatherless like Peter.
@@andrebreville493 changing the past changing the future
you don't go to the past and change shits while the future remains the same, that's not how things work. Also, the whole bs of > if you put back the stones into its place, all is fine, is such a scapegoat
in order to get the soul stone, he has to sacrifice gamora, so when gamora died, he gets the stone, and she can't be brought back to life no matter what. so, current gamora is permanently dead whether it'll be in the past, present, or future, that's how life balance exchange works. if tony wants to save the world, the moment they all took the stones, whatever happens in the present (new lives) would disappear in exchange for tampering with time.
@@AL-fo3jj How did Tony put his daughter's life on the line? And how did he put Peter in Jeopardy? By bringing him into the Avengers in the first place? He recruited plenty of people. And it's not like he set out to make her fatherless.
My thought after watching this: "Tony Stark had a daughter in the movie? Where?" If they mentioned it, it wasn't something they wanted to focus on.
The first thing Iron Man says to Steve is “I lost the boy”. That was Tony’s reason to go back. He failed Peter and was willing to risk a lot to undo that.
No, that was the reason why left. He didn't want to lose more friends. He tells captain america that there are "no plans, strategy, or nothing, I'm done". He gave up. He then tells captain America that he's only here because they have new blood( captain marvel) but even then he leaves. He later decides to come back BC ant man gives him a good idea about time travel and tony also realized that with the "new blood" they have a bigger chance at winning. Hence the reason why at the end tony looks at dr. Strange when captain marvel gets knocked out by thanos and strange hold 1 finger up telling him they only have 1 chance. So tony steps up. He didn't just come back for spiderman, he came back BC he thought strange meant that captain marvel was gonna be the hero. But the hero was always himself, ironman.
Topher Mitchell i disagree. they were just getting up to speed on the situation when tony got back from space. they were just kinda listing off people who got dusted. that’s not to say that tony didn’t care about peter but i don’t think peter was the reason for to ya decision
@@MrAlexx17231 He pointed one Finger to Tell him that this is the one outta Billion situations in Which they win.
@@MrAlexx17231 you are plain stupid.Tony did not care for marvel.Bullshit
@@ronitrathore8270 What a well thought out and elucidated argument.
Ben, I'm a hundred percent on your side whenever we talk about political matters. But MCU doesn't care about your feelings.
Airam Lenner I am a HUGE mcu fan and I have to agree with most of the things Ben says here. Thor was one of my favorite characters and they completely and unnecessarily ruined him. I also agree that there are very many plot holes and inconsistencies.
@@TostEZ28 How was thor ruined?
@@gluten-freedogs6686 probably because of his beer belly and fortnite.
@@midorilimex3199 yeah na fortnight was unfortunate. But I think the beer belly added a physical extension to his characters failures and troubles
Tosticlezz I have to beg to differ. I LOVE what they did with Thor. Really fleshed him out more and more since Ragnarok.
Now I definitely do think that Endgame wasn’t QUITE as good as it could have been, but watching that at IMAX with a party of friends was sooo fun.
Just the like the rest of the movies, I think it’s fun, just a little overrated
@@Dutch_man20 the mcu fanboys are crying rn
Most of MCU actually.
When you think about it Thor’s character made heaps of sense, he’s always been the proudest marvel character and thought he could kill thanos, just because he aimed for the wrong body part billions of things cease to exist. He was waiting for the moment he could get his revenge and once he got it he didn’t know what to do with himself, it didn’t change the fact that he failed
Sam Owen Exactly! He’s never failed before, he could not save the universe nor avenge Loki’s and Hiemdall’s death. It makes total sense his character got destroyed
@@adambuckler1398 exactly. Most people dont get it
True but.. still lil too much comedy from him.. I was hoping Thor would stay quiet like the beginning for a while til he realized he was still worthy n gained confidence to smoke thanos ass n imo Thor should of snapped his fingers n hulk should of got that rematch.. 🤷🏽♀️ juss my opinion
Someone with a brain..
@@ogsloppnbiscuiitz1108 thor has always been a funny guy... duhh!!!.. and if he was silent you would still complain..
Why was Dr. StRaNgE fidget spinning a tsunami for like an hour
THA NK YOU O M G FUCKKK
I had this same question!
Seriously was wondering that
He was preventing the water from flooding the battleground. He didn't have the time-stone so he couldn't reverse it, which is what he would've done.
@@thomaselvidge he could've opened a portal and send all the water somewhere else
Ben shapiro was among those who were wiped by thanos. Now that he is brought back he is mad at the avengers.
Oh god i wish you marvel fans were really snapped by thanos. This movie is fucked up as hell. Although the story of infinity war was not good, still it was a really good entertainer. This fucking up piece of shit is not good on an entertainment basis or on a critical basis. Hulk turned into a semi hulk permanently, thor turns out to be an obese drunkard and shares his hammer with captain, ironman become the worlds greatest scientist who is able to find anything when avengers needs it, captain and black widow is boring as always. Renner was nice although he did not have enough role
A. Are you serious
Abdihafid Mohamed he is to power full to be destroyes
Well no because Endgame takes place in 2023, five years after the snap in 2018. So Ben survived. I survived. You survived.
thanos a b.tch
Thor: *is depressed after watching his brother get strangled, his best friend stabbed, and witnesses the death of the majority of his people*
Ben: you’re a weak loser
*Lost his home land, his mother, his father, his pride, his hammer, gets his confidence taken for not being able to protect his people, and MOST IMPORTANTLY had to endure the thought that he could have stopped thanos but didnt*
That should'v made him more motivated to protect who he loves, he could have been a harsh ruler of asgard who cared about his people and walled everyone else out to protect them
Someone who lost touch with his humanity due to his obsession with not screwing up again, It would've been a great conclusion to his arc
But no we needed cheap laughs and Valkarie had to lead asgard which makes no sense what so ever
Miles Andrews making Thor the comedic levity of the film is the WORST idea they made.
Its the fact that they turned Thor into a fat loser for comic relief. Thats what was wrong with his character in Endgame.
After all that he got angry and created stormbringer seeking vengeance. He didn't go to fat depressed thor till after he chopped thanos' head off
Ben during Endgame: “This movie is too long.”
Ben during Snydercut: “The runtime is great.”
😂 love the DC fanboy energy
He felt it was too long probably because he didn’t like it, also the Snyder cut is set up in 6 parts so you don’t have to watch it all at once
He said he watched it episodically.
Yeah but those first hours were used to actually develop the characters
It's because zsjl is better edited and has greater buildup that you don't feel the runtime
@@Pringlebox Yeah I agree with him because I don’t laugh at MCU jokes because they just don’t feel funny or any other type of Superhero movie that tells joke. Having Endgames runtime devoted to a lot of jokes and nostalgia…just caused me to loose interest and it becomes tiresome
Lmao did I really just watch Ben talk about Endgame 😂
He talked about infinity war when it came out too lol
I love it when he takes a break from politics and talks about movies and TV. Just shows in reality hes actually just one of us.
Who is Ben?
@@raducpm6972 *(sigh)* are you just- are you-
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Jonathan Gomez he talks about movies and tv shows all the time ??
Although i did not agree with his opinion of the film being bad i highly agreed with him calling Captain Marvel boring 😆
MØRTE ET DABØ I think we all did
I didn’t like her. I haven’t seen her movie so maybe that would have changed my mind, I don’t know. She just seemed aloof, unlikeable, and way overpowered.
Infinity war..end game..black panther..and captain marvel...worst MCU movies to date.
@@charliefarson1362 infinity war a bad movie.... Waht?
@@charliefarson1362 Black panther and cap marvel sucked yes. but infinity war and endgame are literaly the best lol
actually, if you watch in slow motion, antman turns small the split second before the explosion
William Zhu You don’t even need to slow it down at all, you can clearly see him shrinking.
@@MemeMan99 exactly
This is one of the multiple problems I had with this vid.Ben clearly didn’t watch and understand the movie properly at all
Ben: Captain America is just boring
Cap: hold my hammer, oh wait
a plastic prop is a plastic prop.
@@arthurpendragon8192 Dumb argument
@@arthurpendragon8192 I could say that about anything in any movie you like
I mean, that doesn’t mean he’s not boring.
Captain America holding Thors hammer devalues THOR and his character .
Captain America is the worst MCU character . And the whole plot of Endgame with time travel was stupid
"She's basically a block of wood that breaks things."
So you have seen Captain Marvel.
@Snehil Shrey Sorry, I don't understand. What am I being ignorant about? I was just expressing that I didn't enjoy Captain Marvel in a joking kinda way.
Snehil Shrey Joke totally went over your head.
@Snehil Shrey Hopefully you end up locked in a cage MCU shittard
@Snehil Shrey Because I held out hope for Captain Marvel being a good movie. I honestly don't give a shit around the politics around Brie Larson, but Carol Danvers' character is a Mary Sue and has very little growth. On a side note, I'm all for equal treatment of men and women, believe me, but the forced feminist themes felt, well, forced.
@Snehil Shrey I'd also like to question what part of my joke, emphasis on the joke part, was misogynistic? I was criticising a poorly written character in a mediocre movie. In comparison, I liked Wonder Woman, I actually enjoyed the new Ghostbusters to an extent and I look forward to the Black Widow solo movie and the new Men in Black featuring a female lead. Of course, I doubt you'll believe me. Such is the way of the internet, after all.
Easily the most controversial topic that Ben has talked about
people who have not read the comics and watched all the movies at least 10 times don't understand anything about character arks and stuff..
@@ravinduwijayarathna6238 uhm they do but ok i watched all of them and i understand but ok
Thor wasn't a weak loser, he was depressed. He isn't some emotionless being that brushes off the death of loved ones. He's a man of passion that cared deeply for his friends, family and people. Losing all that at once would be disheartening to even the strongest of will
@@TheHomelander1234 You must have not watched the film because he killed Thanos
@@TheHomelander1234 He helped retrieve Mjolnir and the reality stone which they needed greatly to defeat Thanos along with actually fighting him. If it wasn't for all the original Avenger's they couldn't have done it. That's kinda the point. Everyone played a role they had to and Thor is no less than anyone
@@TheHomelander1234 lol you know who complains about not being a little kid? Yea...... little kids
@@TheHomelander1234 Geez you must be fun at parties. Asshole. Don’t type in a TH-cam comment section if you don’t expect replies. Just being mean. You’re the one whining here. Tryna sound all big and mighty and mature. Foh
I don't think endgame gave justice to Thor...he is almost a loser in the movie...
Can we see that why Chris Evans doesn’t like you😂😂😂
Chris Evans is a die hard liberal and is super hostile to conservatives
Chris Evans twitted in 2013 "I genuinely dislike @benshapiro."
@@good-tn9sr he said some really disgusting things.. it really i hard for me to like captain america seeing how toxic he is.
never thought i'd have the ammunition to debate ben shapiro
Dude fr he’s contradicting what he speaks about publicly. He’s using opinions not facts. There are 21 other films not 16.
@@rbrotherton0267 not all 21 matter to Endgame.
@@drex8891 If you watched them all you would see every single movie ties in quite nicely to endgame. Whether its the easter eggs or visions or whatever. All the movies are connected to endgame and reference the final movie. Every...... Single..... One
@@drex8891 For example red skull is referenced in infinity war. Captain america's special injections were referenced in the incredible hulk, Tony stark has a vision in age of ultron where everyone is defeated and Cap says you could have saved us.... Thor has a vision of the gauntlet in Age of ultron.... Thor ragnarok shows that asguardians resort to alcohol abuse after losing a significant fight. Both valkyrie and thor abused alcohol. There are loads of plot details that are scattered all over the MCU and it is what makes marvel so awesome that you can rewatch all the movies and find easter eggs and references everywhere..... I mean stan lee was an easter egg in just about every movie.
@@Jamie-cz2xu following this logic there are 22 movies before Endgame that are necessary. Because HULK the terrible one noone talks about is the origin of the Hulk, which leads the events of The incredible Hulk since we all got an origin story first. You dont need to see all 21 to understand Endgame. You dont need Cpt. Marvel, or the first Ant-man, GOTG2 (which is my favorite movie) isnt really necessary to Endgame, Ironman 3, etc. Yes they share the universe and yes the easter eggs are there. BUT they are NOT necessary for Endgame. Which is the point im trying to make. Not all 21 matter. Yes you can watch them and yes they are certain scenes and call backs, but they arent necessary. Heck you dont even need Thor 2 since the whole plot is blabbered out by fat Thor in Endgame.
My theater when Captain marvel blows up Thanos' ship: "silence"
My theater when Thanos pulls the power stone and slaps her into the dirt, and she doesn't come back: "YEAAAAH!"
That Is hilarious!!! 🤣
Mine too!!!
Even my wife (who is sick of hearing me complain about those Gosh darn SJW's) turns to me after Carol Danvers is on screen (there is only one "Captain" in this film, well two but you get the idea) and says, "she IS obnoxious! Is that just how she is written or is that the actress?"
I didn't know how to answer...
Fuck that bitch
@@mrigue56 fuck you!!
John Bigbooty what didnt?
I completely agree with what you said about Thor. What they did to him was basically enough to ruin the movie for me, but they did so many other things which just made it mediocre. I feel like you failed to mention one very important thing which explains to a great extent why Infinity War worked so well and Endgame was so bland - the interaction between characters. Part of the huge hype and great moments of Infinity War were all these people meeting for the first time and just their interaction betweem themselves was incredibly entertaining. There was basically none of this in Endgame. They just showed up at the end, fought a little and that was it. 0 character interaction and 0 groups of people meeting new groups of people. HUUUUGE miss there. Even he ones who new each other barely aknoweledged it. That really killed it all for me. Mega disappointing movie in general.
Ben - "I've seen virtually all of these films. I think Captain Marvel is the only one I haven't seen."
Also Ben - "It really is impressive that they've been able to keep this up for 16 movies."
MCU - *is 23 movies long*
Me - "Idk Ben, I think you might have missed some."
Haha right!
I was just thinking the same thing.
Spiderman Far from Home, and Black Widow were made after Endgame. 16 movies not including Endgame. Which brings it down to 20. The Incredible Hulk isn't technically a MCU movie. So its 19. And he said he didn't watch Captain Marvel, so its 18. And the individual movies, Black Panther and Dr. Strange technically don't have much to impact the plot of Avengers Endgame, other than the characters and the post credit scenes.
He meant that they were able to keep that story line going for 16 movies, not that there were only 16 MCU films. So in that case, he isn't wrong.
@@ephraimvarkey1188 Are you sure that's what he meant? Guess it's possible, but seems like a bit of a stretch to me, especially without him saying anything to imply that reasoning... 🤷♂️
@@ephraimvarkey1188 Technically, the movies you said aren't technically MCU films, all technically are.
The reason why Thor started struggling with courage is because he’s never failed like that before. He failed to kill thanos and save the world.
It's survivor's guilt
the whole fat depressed thor is actually fine in my opinion, its just the way they played it as a joke for almost the entire movie is just a little too much.
They really just butchered his entire character development from the previous films.
His dad died, his super evil sister killed huge portion of asgardians, he sacrificed asgard itself, several thousand year old kingdom to save them, he promised them a new beggining, instead he lead them to Thanos and saw half of his kingdom and his brother get murdered
God or not, you have to be depressed after shit like this
@@user-zz3sn8ky7z Yes, and all of those things are so serious that the film should have taken them, and with it his depression, just as seriously instead of treating it like a joke. Unfortunately, the MCU has always had a problem with overuse of comedy when the film should be more serious which is why the best MCU films are the ones that focus the least on comedy with the exception of Guardians where the tone of the film is lighthearted comedy throughout.
Ben couldn't relate
The only rebuttal I have:
In the comics, Thanos without the gauntlet is still an insane threat.
EXACTLY!!
Nordelsoup I felt like thanos was stronger in this movie without the gauntlet then he was in infinity war with the gauntlet
XAndroid1 not by much
Megumin.Exp If you want the movies to be the exact replica of the Comics, then why bother making movie? Why bother repeating all of the story that unfolded in the comics?
Because if you didn’t change anything no one would watch the movies.
@@Angglio That is a very incorrect statement. The Harry Potter series followed the books VERY closely as did hunger games. There wasnt any problem with those movies.
No one is asking for an exact replica but when you're going to base a film around a villain heavily prevalent in the comics, on whom we've had no info until infinity war, you should at least stay somewhat true to the comics instead of trying to build and entirely new character in the span of a few hours. I'm not saying to not give his presence any explanation, but definitely dont over stretch (or underwhelm) his abilities and they did a pretty good job of that and I think the fights he appeared in were fairly accurate without the gauntlet.
The reason that Thanos was more stereotypically "bad" was that he had not been betrayed yet by his daughters. He was arrogant, because he hadn't lost anything.
But his goal was always his idea of a noble pursuit, he still sought out a noble goal, it makes no sense that he just changes to turn into a cartoon villain
@@milesandrews6711 it's all about the timing. Before GOTG 1, Thanos was in complete control - he had the same goals but he never felt the need to convince anyone - UNTIL Gamora betrayed him and left. Once that happened, it changed him.
Bottom line: the Thanos that died was the one from GOTG 1. And apparently, he was a cartoon villain - we just never saw him.
@@THEAdmiralXizor but he wasn't, even in his scene where he sees the future he shows no distain for his kids leaving him, he shows his noble and I'm doing this for the greater good personality even in endgame and he's always believed that in his entire character
As for Noone believing him, well he knew that Noone would admit what he knew and believe him, he's known it since titan, that's why he took the journey in his own hands to try and do this and make the universe a better place, there is nothing different about his character, they just changed it so we could have a generic, this guy bad you gotta hate him villain when they could've had a good morally Grey villain
@@milesandrews6711 uh, didn't you see the scene when gamora's sister was captured by 2012 thanos? You're right in everything that you said except the part where they made him a generic villain. They didn't
2012 Thanos mission is to restore balance by wiping half of the universe except that Tony and the others didn't want that and when re- snapping them back was an option they get into it. The problem is future nebula was Captured by Thanos and saw what they're trying to do and that was to undo the things that Thanos already succeeded making him feel that this guys didn't appreciate what he's done and now instead of wiping only half he decided that if everyone that's left behind by the snap is not grateful he should just erase everyone else until there's no more got it?.
@@AlteredProf what he was doing was the problem, it's how he framed it
He said that he'd enjoy destroying their planet
Tha line alone ruins his character sand turns him into another villain that wants to destroy the avengers
Russo brothers: this is the culmination of all our hard work making 16 films that we end perfectly with this last one
Shapiro: neat achievement
They kill off all our favorite characters because their contracts ended
I think more of his problem was with the way they did it and that they filled their spots with dookey characters like captain marvel
Scarlett Johansen is filming a Black Widow movie
Mike Hawk Bucky too, And Sam is honestly a pretty cool powerset. Captain America with a Jetpack!
@@Antonio-gg4vv Prequel nit sequel
Mike Hawk I’m only explaining bens side of the argument. We still have good heroes to lead the mcu minus a captain marvel. In all honesty yes we lost good characters but none of the new characters have been fully developed yet, and I don’t think Ben fully understood Thor’s arc as well. The mcu will live on without iron man and captain America and yea it may feel like it’s changed, but is that really a bad thing for it to change. Only way I can see it as a bad thing is if you don’t like the direction of the mcu into space and only liked superheroes based in realism.
The Russo Brothers don’t care about your feelings.
It's not his feelings, but his opinions
@@FrancisCastiglione opinions are based off feelings
What's your point? He is from America, he has the constitutional right to an opinion.
@@Shivcel172 not feeling lol he is not woman
apparently they also dont care about good filmmaking.
6:57 The conversation with Renee Russo is totally touching actually
Ben I love you 3000 but I sincerely disagree with you on this one
Hello there
Completely wrong about Tony Stark's character. The question hasn't been "when is he going to grow up and become a hero?" since Iron Man 2. His character has been about A) his inability to rest and the ineffective ways he has been coping with his fear about the future. B) Coping ineffectively with guilt of collateral damage and not being able to settle down.
Yes. The scene where he tells Pepper he figured it out was amazing acting I thought by RDJ. You saw the gears turning in his head. He wasn't ment to live a domestic life. He tried and he had a daughter and that's great but he's a workaholic. And let's not forget it's a superhero movie. He needed to fulfill the legacy of Ironman.
And also, remember when he flew through a wormhole with a nuke? It’s not that he all of a sudden grew up in Endgame. It’s just that he has always been the one who really liked his fun and then when he started to grow up he still had his fun but he was always the guy to lay on the wire and let his buddy step over it. He did act like a frat boy at a party all the time but when it came to the hard decisions he did do the right thing.
This... Tony's been freaked out since 2012, and he only really settled down AFTER they lost to Thanos... and even then when he had the opportunity to walk away, he couldn't. He picks up Peter's picture and feels that guilt... that responsibility... the weight of the worlds. He probably remembers Peter's paraphrase of "with great power comes great responsibility" ...And that's why he has to do it... Because he's Iron Man. And he does have to face stakes, but he refuses to let his daughter be collateral.
You can't rest now, Tony. We're going to be okay.. 😭😭😭😭😭
@@ohifonlyx33 LoL, My god you're gushing over Iron Man, it's just a movie... You can rest now, you're going to be ok... LoL!
Welp This is Ben Shapiro were talking about so you thatll be the biggest question in HIS mind.
Thor Lebowski (to Thanos): "This aggression will not stand, man."
Lol
Crispy Pickles good vibes dude
Thanos - "The resources of the universe are finite, annihilating half the population is the only way that life may prosper."
Thorbowski - "That's just, like, your opinion, man."
Lol. Love it.
But with all the beers around, I was hoping for a "careful man, there's a beverage here"
Ben’s take on Endgame is probably the worst take he’s had.
It's fun but badly written
He nailed the point about Iron Man's arc story line with the dilemma of saving everybody at the risk of losing his daughter.
I agree with Ben 100% on politics, but not AT ALL with cinema...
Exactly. It has something like 96% on RT from ACTUAL critics, but he thinks he knows better.
@@matthewcooper4248 he doesn't think he knows better he just states his own opinion.
Matthew Cooper his opinion was very valid can you imagine tony having to sacrifice his own daughter his life that he built for years it would crush a man but to see him go through with it any way would be a sight to see
The only thing he doesn't criticize is game of thrones. I guess midget blowjobs are better than avengers lol
@@matthewcooper4248 RT are pretty much owned by disney and also avengers endgame was boring for the most part in my opinion
In defense of Thor
After losing his planet, his friends, his iconic hammer and his father in Thor Ragnorak and finding out you had an evil sister which exposed your father's dark past a man you admired
Promising to find a new home while in that journey Thanos comes in murders a significant portion of his people, his friend and his brother.
Near the end in infinity war after getting the axe striking Thanos...a strike that would kill any normal being, survives tells you "You should have aimed at my head".
Disappears then wipes out half the universe, you survive (then suffers from survivors guilt).
After all of that you find out you have a chance to redeem yourself when you find out where Thanos settled, but Thanos destroyed the stones so you can't bring anyone back. Then in a heat of rage kill him.
Then settle your great people in earth called new Asgard which looks like a tiny fishing village in comparison to the once great Asgard ruled by your father a great king. You would begin to wonder how he would look at you and new Asgard now.
After all of that who would still be courageous after all of that, who wouldn't be depressed.
From what I've seen in the movie it doesn't seem like his "friends" from avengers visited(I could be wrong).Reason why i say that out looked like Hulk only found out that day what was going on. The drinking, isolating himself and getting out of shape for 5 years.
It was funny seeing him fat in the beginning
My problem is that Marvel only kept it as a joke and didn't get deeper more serious into it but that is just my opinion.
Sergio Milho nothing wrong with fat Thor. The drag of using his depression as comic relief is what killed it for me.
Yeah gotta agree with both of u, i wouldnt mind at all if it wasnt used as a complete joke
Fully agree but for most fans Marvel really wouldn't need to explore the deeper side because we have followed Thor and know what he's been through(except maybe Ben by the looks of things) but I still feel like they explored his character really well and how he has been coping with things.
I mean, when else would you get a drastic twist on a character who’s had this established strong and rigid figure for years. You’d have to take that advantage and make fun of it while it lasts lol and the message of rebuilding yourself from suffering and loss would still be there. The jokes were a bit too much sure but I didn’t really mind it as long as he had more purpose than being just a shallow depthless joke
Pressed “read more” only to see a novel... I’m sure you made a good point though
These movies are fan service. Thats why we love them. They get you hyped up fill you up with goosebumps and adrenaline rush. And we all wanna be superhero. And we wanna kick names and take ass.
Um...take names and kick ass you 100 year old pervert😏😏
Unfortunately all the movies are exactly the same now and it's boring
"Endgame" was a HUUUUUGE letdown after the awesomeness of "Infinity War"
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought this... the dumbest part for me is that antman gf dad the scientist fought Starks dad 4 years in order to retain the quantum particle tech. Antman 1 especially showed us this. Many tried but only him his daughter and antman knew about the tech
After the blip, that mobile lab with the quantum portal was somewhere on earth. Antman knew and these are the dumbest things 4 me.
1. but we were all supposed to play dumb in the movie and accept time travel back into the past to look for particles when particles and a proper portal were on earth 100%
2. They undercut the entire antman franchise and the scientists expertise by letting stark figure out the very tech his dad and himself spent years trying to acquire in weeks. This was dumb
Endgame is borefest
Only one problem with Endgame:
Captain Marvel
Cmon I hate her character aswell but she's barely in the movie😂 it's not even worth crying about
@@WhoCares-dl8zr
she's barely
"IN THE MOVIE"
I actually enjoyed it when Thanos bitchslapped her.
@@23Raind who else was cheering for thanos when he fucked her up. I did like Elizabeth Olse when she fucked thanos up.
@@WhoCares-dl8zr I mostly agree but she did eviscerate Thanos's ship by running through it lol
All captain marvel has to do is report thanos for sexual assault
It was funny the first five dozen times, not the next 14,000,605 times.
Theres gotta be police or government to back her up if she does that.
Make up a new joke or steal something else that hasn't been overused.
This joke is becoming remarkably unfunny.
"Is that a personal attack or something?"
"She's basically a block of wood that breaks things" best way to describe Captain Marvel 😂👌
He said tony didn't have a full motivation, when actually his motivation was to bring Peter back, as shown by him looking at the photo of him and Peter before he starts working on time travel and at the end when he hugs Peter after everyone had been brought back
Captain Marvel was terrible! She’s like that friend who cheated in childhood games by saying she/he can do anything. Force field etc etc etc
Darin Gries you have summed up how I feel about this really bad movie.
Omg I’m capt marvel, time to smash through a spaceship, oops am I late👎
@@brettpearson9979 seriously, nobody complained when Thor arrived at Wakanda and was all about the smash. I think people just dislike her on a domino effect.
So having powers is "cheating"🤷 in a superhero movie? 🤔
"rock, paper, scissors. . ."
[reveal hand]
"GUN, I win!"
susanne anique were you ever near a playground growing up? Or a park.🤦♂️ Nevermind Susanne you were probably busy with your Barbie and ken dolls
16 films? Wasn’t it 22 or 21 before endgame?
Max3rn 16 films in the major timeline. Excluding solo movies with no real effect on the timeline
@Snehil Shrey You're an idiot I bet your parents look at you with disappointment
@@lukas6138 ok I understand
There was 21 prior to Endgame, I sat down and watched them all leading up to Endgame
@@trevorphilips9065 wow how creative
“Chris Evans can’t hold his own on screen” what the fuck 😂
I don't think you've ever seen a single one of Iron Man's movies because the only movie in the mcu that somewhat touches on him not being iron man anymore, and that's Iron Man 3 meaning none of the Avengers films, has a message that's not entirely explained. He did not destroy his suits to stop being Iron Man. He destroyed the suits to symbolize that he was not going to hide behind a huge Army of suits that he made obsessively which symbolized his failures. You're not the only one that missed that, but to say every movie since avengers 1 has been about him giving up the suit and being a family man, tells me that you didn't pay attention to shit
Exactly what I was thinking, I had so many easy counter arguments against every point he made I lost track...... it was a good try tho🤣😭
@@steezycarson6037 I just couldn't help myself. His statements were so damn dumb. 🤣🤣
Ben Shapiro might be interesting to talk to when discussing politics, but he would be a nightmare to sit next to him in a theater.
He doesn't seem like the kind of person to talk during a movie. Also, he has actual criticism to yalk about after the movie. Sounds like a great guy to watch a movie with.
jacksobrooks idk he didn’t like most of the icons like cap and iron man. Sounds like the mcu just isn’t for him
@@wilburforce8046 which is fine. Everyone has their opinions. No harm done maybe except for your hurt feelings.
TarePanda nah I ain’t hurt, I’m just exepting the fact that he wasn’t gonna like endgame as long as it had the trinity be of any importance
Idk why people automatically assume discussion about media is taboo and they are strictly entertainment that shouldn't be judged, Ben just brings the FACTS
Infinity war is a better structured film, but endgame was very enjoyable.
Definitely. Endgame was enjoyable and a fitting end but it's structure was a wreck.
@@politicallyincorrectthrowa6384 not a wreck, but not exactly tight, the rest is f*cking phenomenal, I can defend the movie all day
@@gandalfthegrey2592 It's time travel makes absolutely no sense and I *DESPISE* what they did to Thor but overall I got the scenes I wanted to get and thankfully I got a lot less Captain Marvel than I thought I would.
@@politicallyincorrectthrowa6384 I liked the time-travel a lot. I just like time-travel in fiction, they used it well and created a unique enough set of rules that mostly avoids plot holes. That is until the end with Cap, his ending is still worth the plot hole though. I also really like Thor not as much as the last 2 movies but he's really good in the movies and I like him joining the Gotg, a smart way to continue his character.
@@gandalfthegrey2592 Caps ending was worth the plot holes but the time travel didn't make sense to me and I LOVE time travel. I think Steins;Gate has ruined time travel for me though.
As much as you’ve got a point. The whole film is fun to watch. Act 1 may be slightly boring after the prologue but act 2 and act 3 are all so enjoyable. Watching captain america lift mjolnir and watching everyone come back through the portals is amazing
16 films??? Someone didn't do his homework :/
Ben Shapiro making an argument based on his feelings, we have peaked
Editing this comment so the replies don’t make any sense
I know that made me mad. This isnt the same Thanos that was awesome in infinity war
Larry Legend is the GOAT I’m saying people should stop comparing them when they aren’t the same guy
Bro how about the fact that thanos from the past was way stronger than the thanos from infinity war with stones in his gauntlet???? I'm legit done with the marvel universe honestly
Carl
No he wasn't. Did you even ser Infinity War?
@@franciscorendon2783 Iron man was basically able to fight him one on one on titan..... are you high ? Thanos from infinity war wasn't as strong as thanos from end game...... because of shitty writing
Iron man and the guardians were also able to survive a moon being hurled at them..... the movies are extremely inconsistent, sorry I'm not a blind fan and I actually pay attention to what I watch
How bout no hulk? Epic mistake. The hulk/thanos rematch we all wanted was taken from us also
The way Ben is so blunt is everything. "Problem with Caps character is that they always got it wrong.... 🤣" He's wrong but funny
Nothing will make me not like Endgame well because its a culmination of 10 years and its a superhero film i love em. But he's reasonable.
Hes not wrong Ive read the comics and alot of narrations and the mcu are just shit narrations they dont do anything really of depth
You’re a fucking idiot
Nah, they really got Captain America wrong. Chris Evans is way too passive aggressive to have been given that role and it shows in literally all his scenes as the character. It reminds me of a subsitute teacher trying to keep a classroom from being too rowdy. "Hey guys, come on, that's not cooll, don't do that, let's lower the volume just a smudge." That and there is literally nothing American about Chris Evans.
@@bibby42 lol "American"? But anyway they changed his narrative from the comics. That doesn't make it bad just different. They didn't get it wrong. I will admit I personally like the other cap better but this one obviously fits.
It's 21 films, not 16 Ben. Endgame is the 22nd.
Looking for this comment lol
Probably meant since the first appearence of Thanos in the first Avengers
Who cares.
He probably forgot about Thor 2, Captain Marvel, both Ant Man movies, and Age of Ultron when he counted in his head how many movies there are in the MCU. I mean... they are pretty forgettable...
@@Dannyb1022 I doubt he forgot about captain marvel since he just said he was planning on seeing it
Just say it Ben. "Mission report, December 16, 1991..."
Yes---he does look like that guy....
That’s my birthday.
@@jonathanfarley2023 LMAO HE DOES LOOK LIKE ZEMO 😂
If he says no just say “I will repeat my question...”
Jonathan Farley
Plot twist: he is Zemo
He is literally the only person who doesn't like the Portals scene lol.
Humans cry during that scene, Ben's a robot
Me too, as the rest of the film. Ben was even to kind to it
@@radhiadeedou8286 People cried???? I guess I can see why people cry at iron mans death all the time but the PORTALS SCENE??? You gotta be kidding me
Coz ironman's strength has always been circumventing around tough choices. "I would cut the wire" his sacrifice at the end shows his growth as a character.
Don’t forget the coincidence where all the female characters somehow where all around each other and has their woman power fight.....just silly.
lol it was obviously their women empowerment propaganda.
Abdulrahman Bucheeri I as a 24 old woman thought the same damn thing
Lil Taay Right!! I mean don’t get me wrong, I like most of these female characters but the way they did it, just feels kinda forced.
Abdulrahman Bucheeri call it how it is, it was lol for sure
It was so forced that I felt it was self aware. I'm not mad at it either. This is a family movie. I know there are girls that love superheroes too and liked that "girl power" scene without thinking in any political message.
I quite liked it, but I agree with the Thor thing, and about Captain Marvel.
But I'm glad she was hardly there
That's why I liked it because I have done that when I was depressed. Got really fat and didn't care about anything. And I'm glad he didn't just turn back. Oh and captain marvel took me out of the movie every time she was on screen. Especially when thanos head butted her and nothing happened. She just sucks.
I quite like what they did with the Thor character ,and it wasn't done as "fat shaming", like some would have you believe! sure they made a bit of a joke with it, but as it wore on it helped shape(no pun intended!) his character and you could see he was having fun with it! ,it brought his character to a human level with the depression angle, I felt for him as did many in the theater where I watched it!
His character was made by guilt and loss, and the arc from ragnorok to endgame is him going from able to process his loss, to being unable to stop thanos due to his ego. Ag once, all of the emotions he held back, every loss floods him at once, he wasn't good enough. That's what his arc is in endgame, him pulling himself up after being a broken man, finding purpose and becoming a hero once more
The Thor thing was basically done to ‘nerf’ him so that he doesn’t instantly kill Thanos at the end and they can have a proper fight.
How did you like it, it was boring and just fan service. No action until the last half hout
I mean... they killed off steve and tony because their contract ended...
Endgame is a million hours long but Zack Snyders Justice League is 4 hours long lol
Wow I finally disagree with Ben Shapiro
No, you just resist to use your common sense on this movie. He's absolutely right from start to end.
@@NasalChain Nah, you're just a Ben Shapiro fanboy
@@d4clt427 Nah. First time got here, not even once before
@@NasalChain if you've paid attention to the plot at all you'd know he's wrong, there's actually a huge reason as to why Thor is fat it's not just a joke there's actual meaning and character development involved in it and I didn't even really like fat Thor but I still understand it's meaning
Thats just one example as to how he's wrong, there's a lot of other points he mad that are completely wrong tbh
I agree with some things you said in this but captain America was not boring in this movie
Matthew Whiting he kinda is
This video is boring
Until he gets the hammer! And then he dies of old age :/
@@dreamforger7166 he doesn't die. He retires
He's just being a twerp. He doesn't actually believe what he's saying.
If he really does then someone needs to check his pulse.
However many plot holes it may have, it still made me cry
Your such a wussss
@@thomasrockbottom2907 and your judgement of others is a show of the crippling disappointment of how your life turned outtttttt
While I wouldn't call Endgame a bad movie, I do think that Infinity War is the superior movie
Endgame was the biggest waste of time. Pure cringe fest, infinity war was far superior
@@ownedpowned860 I will say that I think the few fight scenes we got were good, the music was good, and the costumes for each of the characters were better than their Infinity War counterparts. Maybe Thor as an exception.
Captain marvel only got 2 billion because generally people thought that it was connected to Endgame. If you edited Captain marvel out , it won't really change the film. I'm glad she wasn't in the film a lot. I was trying to be unbiased...but her character is annoying and self entitled..
I agree and apparently she was only in the film for a total of 15 minutes out of a three-hour film. And even then she only did one important thing the entire movie and that was save Tony in the beginning after that she could have disappeared from the entire movie and it would have changed anything.
I agree that she's annoying but Captain Marvel IS supposed to have that kind of character.
Don't forget Disney bought out movie theaters to fake their sales.
Fuck that. Every time i see Brie Larson on screen i wanna punch her in that smug face of hers.
??? Captain Marvel got 1 billion, not 2
3:31 Pepper will lose a husband, her daughter will lose her father.
Ben Shapiro: "It's all hunky dory"
Chernobyl Fungus it’s not supposed to be about Iron man’s family. It’s supposed to be about Iron Man and how it affects HIM.
@@theconservativechristian7308 It affects him by killing him.
He NEEDS to watch captain Marvel and make a video abt it. I need to hear what he would say😂
He would likely fall asleep.
Time travel didn't fit well with this franchise. Felt like a cheat. Undermined consequences.
"ah man, I thought you were cool"
-Scott Lang
Brie larson was standing alone at the funeral, EVERYONE HATES HER
[Thanks for all the likes i love Ben and hate capt. Marvel
Dream come true]
The only thing I thought at that moment was "what the hell are you doing here? Didn't you show up like 2 seconds ago?" She looked so out of place.
It's quite obvious she is just a despicable person. I legitimately denied my girlfriend a date because I did not go see the movie with her. (Captain marvel)
Im a man of principal(spelling)
@@williamkelly5689 Luckily my girlfriend heeds my wisdom 😂 I just said "let's go bowling. That movie is just gonna suck."
We went bowling.
@Thomas Sowell They made Thor suck eggs, though.
Most people are saying it’s good because they’re in denial. In a few months people will realize how slightly below average this movie was.
I'm a Marvels fan. I agree with everything Ben said 😂
Honestly I think captain americas ending was very emotional. Bringing back the old song and him getting his dance. I think it’s the perfect ending to my favorite character.
I really like the ending but I did hate that they only did it because Evans turned down the Re-Up. I wish that they would get him to agree to one more movie where they explain how he put the stones back. Like how the hell did he get the reality Stone to return to a liquid form in Thor's girlfriend, how does he return the Soul Stone and did that then return black widow's soul, and how did he get the Tesseract back in the cube. I think it would be an interesting one off, but I know it'll never happen.
@reciprocating social lobotomy Cap went back to return the stones to the original places, the old Cap (the one frozen on ice) still did everything Cap did: fight Iron Man, saved Bucky etc." The only difference is that the Cap that went back stayed. So we are technically seeing an alternate timeline when we see old Cap. But nothing really changed because he didn't change much.
I could be wrong but that's what I got out of it.
@reciprocating social lobotomy changing the past does not change the future.. that's why when Sam suggested to go back in time and just kill baby thanos Bruce explained that's not how it works every timeline that is created is its own reality
In Agent Carter, Peggy pretty much moved on. Also, they spent like 2 movies of Captain America showing how Steve really cared about Bucky and he just left? This is not good arc character of him.
@maccajoe You could be right. Time travel is confusing man
Thor: Suffering PTSD because he feels like he made the mistake that allowed Thanos to succeed. He revives his courage when he gets a new opportunity to fight Thanos.
Iron Man: He does have an arc, not quite the expected one. He does feel on edge about doing it and Pepper finally tells him its the right thing. He sacrifices himself for victory (you could say knowingly), something Cpt. America said he would never do in the first Avengers movie.
The final battle is of course fan service, but it made complete sense for the movie.
Ptsd stop pulling from your ass
Iron Man had that arc 7 years ago when he took a nuke through the wormhole and Thor was made into a joke for comedic relief when they could have done so much more with him
Timmy P He lost his dad, then his home world, then Loki, then half the universe. How else could he have reacted to that?
Actually, I'd say Thor absolutely redeemed himself in Ragnarok and Infinity War. I just hate how all of that development was thrown away for some joke. It's like what Joss Whedon did to Cap in Age of Ultron. The character was not correctly written at all.
@Matthew Mcgee They're idiots ignore them.
Super unpopular opinion:
My biggest problem is that instead of being a dark revenge story it was a comedy. This worked well with other Marvel movies but I wanted most of the movie to be like the first 20 minutes, I didn’t want Thor getting fat and playing Fortnite.
He really doesn’t understand or get anything about the MCU does he? He just tries to keep seeming like he knows what he’s talking about. It feels like he’s trying to be controversial and that’s it.
You say a lot of nonsense instead of actually trying to prove him wrong. Your profile picture says a lot
Satan Claus I wasn’t talking any “nonsense” and I made my profile pic myself cuz I thought it would look funny. Calm down.
Nothing on cap picking up thor's hammer?
I know. Best part of the movie.
@Joe greene Hulk is too strong, had to get rid of him in one way or another.
Ikr. Yo when they swapped the hammer for storm breaker I was giddy
@Edward Kalinauskas the whole point was Cap isnt a God. He's a regular dude who's made a journey from his first movie to becoming worthy enough
to lift the hammer. It's the climax to his character
Capt america did pick the hammer up in the comics, not vision. And that's because the hammer let him because he's pure of heart. The hammer chooses who pics it up, not the other way around.
The only crime Endgame committed was not including a post credits scene.
FlyTour69 and not showing rocket what a raccoon was while he was on earth.
I'm just glad I didn't sit there like an idiot waiting for the end of the credits!
Mortal Progeny you think the multiverse thing mysterio spoke of is the truth or do you think he’s lying like he usually does?
There was actually a sound of hammer hitting some object at the end of the movie.But there was nothing to see just a sound.
@@jiren676 I know this, hence knowing there is no post credits scene.
I disagree on your point that captain America should act like a 90 year old. Yes he's technically 90+, but he was frozen for most of that time, so his maturity would still be that of a younger guy.
They kind of had to make it like that. Characters were swapped not just for us but for the actors. Rdj, Evans, johannsen etc said they were done at this film. They had to make more characters to continue the business.
Also, it is the end of the huge story. Theuly couldn't make it just some short film with only action. They had a lot to cover both physically and emotionally. I think it was great because it lived up to what it had to be
👏👏👏
Times cap was an old man
-putting things he missed on a list
-not understanding any references
-“language!”
-his excessive grammar usage
-complaining about converse low tops saying they would fall off if he walked any faster
-the music he listens to
-etc
His best friend has problems with his memory and dementia, and has artificial joints.
A black man is his boss, but he still acts like he’s in charge.
taco 644 yep. he’s not supposed to be a cranky old man, he’s just s young guy from a different era. yes they could have done more in the movies to sell this point, but cap goes through an epic character arc across all his movies, from idealistic patriot eager to sacrifice his life in battle to wise and suspicious individualist leader of men.
shapiro is missing the point with cap entirely.
Dark Star and iron man... this whole review is fuckin terrible.
Dark Star well said, I couldn’t agree more
taco 644 the reason he acts younger in the newer movies is because he’s had what like 10+ years to adapt to the new world? I don’t agree with this point Ben makes.
Is it just me or did Ben's little hat get bigger?
The hat grows with his power. Soon it will be umbrella
bigger bald spot? :) jk
I’m not sure but it might have something to do with his wife being a doctor
No, his hairline's getting smaller.
Maybe Ben just got a little bit smaller... 🤔
I thought the end battle was the coolest thing ever, I was cheering it on in the theatres when they came out of the portals 😂