Put the video in .75 speed. You can tell Ben shapiro has no idea what he's talking about and makes all kinds of random statements that aren't true. He talks fast to convince people he's smart. Don't listen to Ben shapiro. He talks emotionally driven nonsense.
Yaser Masood hes smarter than the average bear for sure but you arent wrong. I think because he talks so fast and has sound answers people often dont bother fighting him. You dont have to go very far to see that he uses fallacies that goes over peoples heads. The time it took you to explain about his fallacies hed be done with the subject.
@@darkwolf1739 The funny thing is how he often calls out semantics when he literally uses that to burn people even though his actual point doesn't correlate to the subject in the way he portrays it.
He is stupid though, he throws around statistics and logic, that's not being smart that's being a mindless sheep, he's so afraid to have his own opinion
matthew gallaway Yeah, but the point is that Thanos is literally insane. He believes wiping out half of all the life in the universe is the only answer. He's not too unlike the joker.
Dwight K. Schrute Its not so much that Thanos is insane as he is set into his beliefs as he has seen both the downside of people ignoring his methods, in the case of his home planet being destroyed due to overpopulation, and the upside of halving the population of many planets, such as Gamora's home planet and resulting in a prosperous life for the remaining half. He is so determined to carry out his mission because of both tragedies and successes in his past which have reinforced his beliefs more and more. And I mean, for everyone except for Spider-Man, the end result of Thanos snapping his fingers is a painless and fearless death, which he deems as mercy.
@@jpscharged doubling resources isnt logical also. we have enough food for everyone, we just don't distribute it. look how much food is waste at restaurants after closing. if thanos doubled resources. the rich would just hoard it.
Still, he is the highest paid actor of all time. That makes your opinion completely irrelevant. It is not bad to play the same kind of character in every movie. It gives us the sense of continuity. I will give you an example of Linkin Park. Their album back in the day named Hybrid Theory was a really big hit. But when they released their song Heavy featuring Sia last year people severely criticized it for not sounding like Linkin Park because it was a little modern EDM type. The problem with some people is when they see someone's performance in the movie and he performs really good resulting in the movie being a hit, then they expect that actor to play the same kind of role in his every movie. If he doesn't then they say well he wasn't that good as he was in the last movie. SLJ has tapped into that and therefore he gets the big bucks.
Shreyas Gham Okay, I like SLJ but implying he's good because of the money he's made isn't the best way to go about it, in my opinion. That would mean that Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, etc are talented musicians. 😂
Miguel Hernandez You're not wrong but if you randomly kill half of the universe you're left with the same problem so doubling resources seems more logical to me.
No shit. Ben Shapiro's videos are basically the brown note of youtube political commentary. His shrill voice has been known to make people shit their pants uncontrollably.
hes right on the money about marvel cheaply killing off characters with future movies..the smart move would not to release future movie titles and facts until a month after infinity war came out or to do that as a red hearing name fake films that are actually other films and then keep some characters dead or keep for example non main heroes dead like buckeye and others
@@crossfaded7666 It couldn't be Black Panther. Black Panther died too quickly, and besides, Spiderman was literally whining to Tony like a four-your-old boy to his father.
the thing is they did kill some people off and had stakes..in the last film...not infinity war..i mean loki dies but outside of that which they retcon too for a spin off show to make more money off people smdh and they kill like 2 people off 1 stays dead and hes a minor character so like ok...gamora staying dead for good would of made infinity war a 10/10 film for me..not going to lie...thats real stakes...but they pussied out...kinda wish 1 avenger died in infinity war for real too..like kill off thor or have hawkeye snapped..he didn't do anything
This is the actual explanation for why Spiderman was able to sense and survive slightly longer than the other characters who were killed off by Thanos. Good on you!
Avengers 4 Major spoiler Alert: When every other option fails Nick Fury recruits BEN SHAPIRO and then there is a debate between BEN and THANOS . BEN shreds THANOS to pieces and the Universe is saved . Avengers 5 Plot : CENK UYGAR then comes to the fore claiming it was actually him not BEN who defeated THANOS and when people would disagree with him he would suggest everybody to "google it".
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Scott Sullivan Exactly what neel376 said. Also, simply because the hero's are also main characters doesn't nessescarily suggest that the main focus of the story is centered around them. Ben states that it is Thanos' story.
Scott Sullivan yeah everyone saying they felt the film is rushed and didn’t understand it and it didn’t answer anything forget that A. It is being continued in another 2+hour movie and B. The directors intended for this film to be Thanos film with the heroes as the side characters with their plots. It’s a complete film from Thanos viewpoint
Even if he could do that. Then the universe population would increase WAAYYYYY more and then when these recourses end, in a very short time, it will be worse
Bullshit the Infinity Stones can bend rewrite the laws physics, space, time, and reality. The facts are this movie is terrible and is terribly written. @@infernodragon456
I personally liked the growth of the father-son relationship between Tony Stark and Peter Parker. I mean, everyone knows that Spiderman will come back, but that scene where he's dustified and Tony's holding him I thought was really touching.
‘I know they’re not dead because I’m not a stupid idiot’ -Ben ‘any action performed using the infinity stones is irreversible’ -red skull in the next movie
I've said this before about Black Panther (the movie)... it isn't supposed to fake out the audience, it's about the characters who remain believing those who died aren't coming back... and the emotion of the audience should be for them, because they don't know what the audience knows
Exactly I don’t know why some people just don’t get that. With that logic we should never feel any tension in any film ever because we know that the protagonist will win in the end. Even if people like Black Panther and Spider-Man didn’t vanish it, we would have known that whoever vanished was going to come back simply because of the fact half the universe went with them. There is no way marvel would allow that to be the new reality because at the end of the day it’s a comic book movie.
Exactly, and the fact that Marvel was willing to kill off half the universe for an entire year until the next movie says something despite the fact that they’re coming back.
himmelsturmerIX lmfao true. And there CGI moment with Superman's lip was horrible they couldn't even do a lip and marveled that I a whole person made him look real. Marvel is so far ahead of DC it's not even funny watching the interviews of the cast was hilarious when I asked about DC and Samuel L Jackson said Marvel has some kickass superheroes and DC has interesting bad guys LOL
Because it's easier to make something fake look real, that making something real, look real again, and instead making it look fake. It's like reinventing the wheel, but you reinvented the wheel into a square
Cyphrum ᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ One would consider his actions "mad". The greatest villains see themselves as the good guys. And Ben Shapiro is just a negative individual he never says anything positive.
Everyone knows that the characters that died during the snap will probably be back, the question is how. And what really makes this movie, IMO, is the character interactions. That's what personally made me love it, and I'm sure it's why most people will see it, also Thanos is a great villain.
That's the state of modern comics. If it works for you more power to you. But for some of us stories can only be rewritten and characters brought back so many times before any suspension of belief and emotional involvement one was able to give the stories just evaporates.
Qwerty yeah, it was different.. he's newer, younger, just a kid.. he was terrified. the others have been through major stuff before, so it's different for them. that's how i saw it, at least.
David Curry interesting catch.. good point. 😉 *SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS.* another thought for you: i believe dr. strange said that he gave the stone to thanos because he considered every other scenario, and they'd always lose. so while the audience is all "wtf, doc?!" i think that he made that decision knowing that, ironically enough, giving thanos the stone was the only option to ultimately winning. i mean, of course they're going to win, but the point is that i think dr. strange has the foresight to know that his decision is the right one. the way he said it (can't remember the exact quote) just got my brain churning. ps: maybe you noticed that on your own. just wanted to share in case you didn't.
It's a review. Of course he isn't gonna just make faces and say "the movie was good, the writing was good, acting was awesome, score was amazing" like a dumb fanboy.
Ben Shapiro bashes Infinity War for killing off characters that will clearly come back but praises Batman V Superman for killing off Superman when he was clearly coming back...
It's no coincidence that the original Avengers are still alive by the end. They're most likely the ones who're actually marked for death to bring everyone else back in the next movie.
Diego Ledezma I thought that too but as it turns out in the UK the original Avengers was released as Avengers Assemble for some reason.. too bad a would have been a perfect title for Avengers 4
a crusty krab is Thanos really a villain tho, or just a anti hero? He sees the problem and solution everyone decodes to ignore. Sure it's a fucked solution but never the less it's would still work. He's not trying to kill life, he's trying to save it.
I like that Ben is willing to at least acknowledge that Infinity War is well made, and well acted. That’s a fair review even if you aren’t willing to be at all charitable to the actors and film makers. I still stand behind the fact that Infinity War is the crown jewel of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
Ok but lucasfilm and disney doesn't give a flying fuck about star wars so they're willing to kill off whoever as long as it fills screen time. It's not like they have an actual story to fill in the movie, just Ruin Johnson's garbage.
@@ryanseow4494 I was talking about how I feel towards starwars. My bad man, should have specified. I feel disney doesnt care about old star wars characters, but I doubt they'd ever kill one of the new ones. It seems the ones they do kill are all shallow and exist just to die.
Infinity war sucks and here’s why first off there’s no mentioning of Batman whatsoever second off where the hell is aqua man he’s missing in action thirdly Micheal Jackson is the reason why coach got the last infinity burger thus Turing almost everyone into brown sugar even peter Barker also why didn’t Hercules just gather all of the Greek gods a long time ago to scare off coach from trying to collect the infinity burgers. No satire and emotion whatsoever where the hell is hawkeye the only one who could stop coach with the help of doorman and the Fant4stic also there was not mentioning of the two best characters in marvel ever squirrel girl and Howard the duck!!!! Like what the fuck dreamworks get you’re shit together!!!
I agree with his major problem. I had to suspend my intellect so I could feel the complete impact of all of the characters who died. I know they will be back after the next movie, but for a brief moment I felt the pain from their death. Definitely worth it.
jking0351 King I have a feeling that in order to get those characters back, most of the og avengers are gonna have to sacrificed themselves for that to happen.
jking0351 King bro it doesn't suspend your intellect. If anything it increases it bc you have to look at the bigger picture of how the characters surrounding the death feel. Like imagine what Tony is thinking or okioya
Isaac11 this. I think that the reason that they "killed" all those characters was BECAUSE that fans know about future movies. Now, in the next film the stakes are real, ANY of those character can truly die.
Good point but I think for the characters that faded away the point is not for you to think they are dead the point is to see the consequences of thanos' actions and how they affect the living characters, because those two things are what the next film is focused on.
Exactly! I cried when Peter faded mostly because of what I imagine it did to Stark. He was basically the son Tony doesn't have but clearly wants. But he's also someone ELSES child and he was responsible for Peter. So Tony failed Parker, Aunt May AND himself and that just ruined me.
Chinko 69 The characters don't know that, that's literally the entire point of the scene. Or did you need a stranger on the internet to explain the basics of dramatic irony?
I think his point was that he would prefer they just skipped the part which they are going to reverse anyway, kept the important and lasting story progression and went on with that ultimately "real" storyline.
Jonathan Pilz That the movie had no point. It is one big tie in to the real movie. Even the cliffhanger you already know the answer to, so there is no point to this movie. You're just waiting to see how it is executed. It is as if you read the script to a play and you're just waiting to see how the actors play it out.
The problem Ben has with the snap is essentially the sane problem marvel has had for awhile now. The sense of tension is gone when you know that certain characters aren’t in any real danger since they show up later on. But I disagree with Ben on this one. The characters deaths aren’t purely for us to mourn. It’s for us to see this relationship between characters hit this emotional stop. Spideys death was emotional not only for the death, but his fear and the sense of loss tony has from that moment. Like a father watching his son die. It matters that he died, regardless of his future resurrection, purely for the fact that he did die. He wasn’t saved last minute, or a gotcha moment. He died and everyone had to sit and watch helplessly as he faded away. And the impact of that moment will affect future decisions and they way our characters look at things later on. Getting a nasty cut on your body matters little when you know it’ll heal in time. But in the moment it hurts like hell and you’re bleeding. And you’ll bear the scar of that moment for the rest of your life.
Fuck it. I became a believer after no one died in Civil War , and I still felt heartbroken . You don’t have to decapitate Captain America for those movies be top tier lol .
The snap comes out of the comic books, later in the comic books Nebula gets the gauntlet off Thanos and does the cosmis reset. Ofcourse we know it’s going to happen because the movie is based off of the comics... His arguement of us knowing they’re going to come back is just stupid. I knew throughout the entire movie that is was going to happen, still enjoyed it a ton.
I do think it's interesting when the biggest complaints about a film is things that aren't actually in the film to begin with. It's not the films fault that a lot of us know that some of the dead characters still have contracts for already slated movies or that it's made by Disney. It also seems a bit ironic giving out spoiler warnings about what happens in the movie and then reminding everyone of the business side of the movie that doesn't feature in the movie at all. If you had seen the movie without knowing any of the this extra stuff this 'review' spoiled you more than a person who hadn't seen the movie but knows about the contracts and business side. You should judge a movie based on it's own merits, not by how much of your "homework" you had done before watching it.
AsurasPath22 correct that was the main hint. He looked into the future and saw only one possible victory. Once he realized they weren't on that path he gave away the stone saying "we're in the end game...it was the only option" was the hint. So he opened up the path that leads to Captain Marvel being called (end credit scene if you haven't seen it) who is the only one truly capable of possibly beating Thanos, giving the potential for a second fight down the line rather than everyone dying.
Elijah Lawrence I think you're missing the point. He doesn't open the path so Captain Marvel can defeat Thanos. He makes a decision that is absolutely contrary to Thanos' decision. Thanos traded a life for power. Strange traded power for a life. That's the whole point of the movie. If he traded a life (Stark) to keep the Time stone, he'd be just as evil as Thanos.
Adam G. That's actually an awesome thought. Opposite decisions for opposite ends of the moral spectrum, I guess would be a way to word it. Which in a way could be considered to lend credence to it being the path to follow to defeat Thanos. Kind of an equal and opposite reaction.
They clearly intended to portray him as a villain who has understandable motivations who is just too extreme The big problem that even regular viewers are picking out, is that Thanos isn't just too ideologically motivated, he's also an idiot He has the power of a god literally at his fingertips, and of all the ways he could possibly solve that problem, he picks perhaps the worst one, that isn't even a long term solution
Got to disagree with Ben here, reversing deaths in comics is commonplace. This story line is straight from the comics. The snap happens in the comics too. IW was awesome!!!
@Sasuke Uchiha I mean... Isn't that the basis of all superhero movies for the most part? Happy ending? I knew there was going to be a reversal from the point that Strange gave Thanos the stone and told Tony it was the only way. He knew the outcome, he also knew that was the move to beat Thanos. The fact that Thanos killed half of the universe and then ends his crusade would also be a terrible end to the movie lol.
A rare disagreement with Ben here. In the comics--the printed version--NO ONE stays dead. You have to bring them back due to both popularity and so future generations can experience the character.
I think it's true that all the character deaths softened the impact, but I noticed that nearly all of the characters who died were the young, recent avengers (black panther, spiderman, etc.). Doesn't that strike everyone as a little odd? I have a feeling that Captain America and Ironman (the old Avengers) who at some point have to be written out of the franchise, may sacrifice themselves in the next Avengers movie in order to bring back the new Avengers. Just a prediction. I can't think of a better exit for Captain America especially.
If the rule was "you can die if you are either a supporting cast character or a main character who is less interesting than your supporting cast", I would believe that they were dead. This is why I could kind of buy when T'challa died. He's lame, the antagonist of the film was way more interesting, as was his sister, girlfriend, best friend, and head guardswoman. A movie about them trying to rebuild Wakanda while dealing with his loss would be a good film. Seeing Doctor Strange die took me out of the movie, because he is the only interesting person in his movie. Also, It would not take me out of the movie if Captain America had died, his main superpower right now is leadership and moral fiber. Having another character cast into his role would be tremendous and compelling character growth for whoever that was.
I think certainly the quality of a story is enhanced by the philosophies of its characters being sound and understandable. I'm not saying this one is not, but I do think it is good writing to develop characters' motivations to a point where the viewer can empathise to some extent even with the bad guys.
1:45 "So I have a couple of problems with the movie ... " He then commences to say what he likes, then at 2:26 resumes enumerating his problems, of which one is Thanos' motivation is insufficiently explained by his "Malthusian nonsense" because "no one explained to him" the problems with Malthus and Paul Ehrlich's philosophy. The thing about villains, though, is that they have warped values predicated upon bad philosophy.
Yumidoro Iro - Understandable, yes, but it's also okay for them to be flawed. I'm reading John Truby's "Anatomy of Story", a great how-to book on fiction, and he writes about how the best villains have a moral code that is "flawed, but understandable". While Thanos' logic is almost instantly refutable, you *can* see the logic in it. Likewise, the best heroes also have flawed morals, though they often work through them by the end of the film. To their credit, most MCU films seem to have a handle on this (and the Phase 3 ones have just been knocking it out of the park).
Ben: "they're not going to kill of the stars because there are already movies already slated on the books with these stars" After watching Endgame: Rip Black Widow
Killing half the universe so that the other half can benefit. I don’t know why Ben trying to re-write the movie. Thanks is a villain and his philosophy is suppose to be evil.
Ert Gret if he double the amount of resources, he will double the mass in the planets and stars, therefore, the gravity of the planets would crush every kind of life,suns would be transformed in black holes.... and the universe would over
Ben Shapiro: Had to figure out they didn’t all die due to future movie releases and possible loss of profit Everyone who read the Infinity War comic: 🙄
The entire point of why thanos is a villain is because he thinks that his insane plan is the right way to save the universe from overpopulation. He’s too arrogant to have his mind changed. In the movie, Gamora tells him that he doesn’t know that his plan is the only way to prolong life in the universe. He replies that he is the only one who knows it. Thus, a clear example of his arrogance and inability to have his mind swayed
Lol. Ben, I love you man, but sometimes you're too smart for your own good. Thanos is crazy. His nickname is "The Mad Titan." Thanos' motivation is supposed to make just enough sense to understand how he is able to justify his crusade but still be crazy.
Yeah. You don't have to empathise with his motivation, you empathise with his emotion and you admire his conviction. Thats why he's terrifying and amazing.
He’s definitely crazy. His journey might have started off from a wish to achieve a greater good... but killing people the old fashioned way for so long has blinded him of the possibilities. He sees the gauntlet as just a way to complete what he started, and I believe he wants the killing to stop.
Valid complaints. But for me the sadness really came from the empathy of the characters. They are all experiencing death. Not sad because i won't get to see them again. We know we'll see them again
(just to be sure, spoilers for Dragonball) That's how I learned to approach deaths in Dragonball and Dragonball Z as well. I know they won't stay dead permanently, but the experience still is real for the characters.
he has a point . when thanos choked loki to death , it felt real and made us ready for something dark . but when superheroes died due to thanos snap , it just felt like naah they arent gonna kill half of the main characters in such a way . they are gonna return somehow in the next film . though i have to say , this is one of the best marvel movies ever made .
Paused at 4:50 just to comment my opinion on Ben's issue. I understand where he is coming from, but he is taking a meta perspective. Look at in in-universe. From an in-universe perspective, what happened happened. The next part of the story is how that is dealt with, and huge chunks of it undone. If we know that a certain character will be back, that doesn't mean that the character who witnessed their death knows that. This is where suspension of disbelief comes into play, and we wait to see how this is resolved. I mean, just as we know that many of the dead characters will ultimately be saved? We also know Thanos will ultimately lose, because it is a hero/Disney company movie, and the villain won't ultimately win. Arguing that the movie has less impact because we know the killed characters will likely come back is a lot like arguing that the entire movie series isn't worth watching, because we already know the good guys will win. Sure we do. But we don't know how, and we don't know at what cost, and we don't know how they'll rebuild. Well, we don't know how the killed characters will be revived, or at what cost, or what new problems bringing them back may entail. In the end? It's a movie. As long as the story is more-or-less internally consistent, we should be able to enjoy it.
While its true that in-universe these characters are actually dead, to Ben's point it breaks immersion within the story for an audience member to know that theres a Spiderman movie currently in production. It's much harder as an audience member to feel like a part of the story with that knowledge invalidating basically everything that occurs. Personally, it makes me feel insulted that I know the cost of victory is essentially nothing at this point but the directors are asking me to close my eyes and believe its huge.
Adam Wolf Except there should be some sort of resolution to this movie beyond pure set up for the next. The point is that we DON'T know the cost of victory except that it is significantly less than what we're "intended" to think it is. Because of this, there isn't any conclusion to this movie in any sense pertaining to the Avengers and as such it is a failure from a narrative perspective. Its really fun to watch, but there isnt any point to seeing it again without immediately watching the sequel, which in my opinion is a poor design choice.
They're not trying to "fool" anyone. You have to consider how the ending feels for the characters and not your meta knowledge about this movie, it's like you're choosing to not enjoy some parts. Also, the fact that something can be reversed in a sequel, doesn't make the previous movie obsolete, that's nonsense. We're dealing with 6 stones that have enormous powers, if you don't expect crazy stuff to happen then it's really not for you. Dr strange used a stone to see 16.000.000 different timelines, and you're gonna complain about how they'll probably bring them back? Of course they will, but the heroes in the movie don't know that and they seem to feel hopeless, AND NO ONE knows HOW they'll bring them back. So that's the exciting thing about the second part plus some potential "real" deaths this time around.
Yea we know spider man ain't dead. But I cried nonetheless. But it was more for Tony. Peter was basically the son he never had. They set that up early in the movie. Not only that but he's someone ELSES son (technically nephew but same idea) that he was completely responsible for. So he failed Peter, he failed May and he failed himself. The devastation I imagined Tony was going through is what broke the water works for me.
i don't think tony felt that bad about it. if peter actually died in battle then that's understandable. they all fought thanos and all failed. peter died because thanos achieved his goal. in that sense, peter could have just as easily been at home sleeping and still got erased. i think tony was feeling bad mainly about them failing to defeat thanos and the consequences, rather than failing peter.
Yea even though i knew he would be back, and im sure the Russo bros thew they weren’t going to fool any one, but that scene of Peter disappearing had some weight to it because of how he went. Hes still just a kid who just witnessed the other heroes just disappear and seems he gets really scared to just die. He had real fear and kinda turned into a little kid scared of going to the doctor trying to hang on to tony feeling hopeless. It was a sad tear jerker if you just watched the movie not thinking about the behind the scenes stuff. Bens acting like that bad audience person yelling out “hes not dead hes just behind the camera!”
AgeDrain that's because of his spider sense. i felt absolutely no difference watching him disappear than the rest of the characters. him being a kid does not make his life any more or less valuable than anyone else's. most people love their lives and most people don't want to be murdered regardless of their age.
I hate when people say “oh they wouldn’t kill that character for real” like duh. That’s not what’s important, the important thing is the reaction of the people who didn’t die. We stay with them and feel their loss, it’s not a spectacle it’s a funeral of their world.
he was kinda wrong cause the snap did matter...iron man cough...thanos won in almost every reality and they did undo it kinda...they also had to wait to do it..theres a lot to endgame..losing black widow meant the snap had stakes..period..and if they kept gamora dead his argument would be wrong but they didn't even loki somehow is back so they kinda did screw up infinity war...
Three years ago, there were 5 people in America that hadn't seen this movie yet. 5 people who hadn't learned the truths taught in the Infinity War. I was one of those 5. It is now 2022 and I still haven't seen what the Infinity War had to show the world. Am I the last American in this position? No, I am not alone. My husband walks this path with me. How will he react when he finds out that I have learned the truth of what happened during the Infinity War? Only time will tell.
I didn't think black panther was that good. I like the character but the story seemed so rushed as if they picked a formula then filled in some dialogue.
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*Tony: tell me his name again.*
*Gamora: ben shapiro*
Imagine ben in his CGI as thanos
C’mon you guys, Thanos is supposed to be beatable. Extremely, extremely strong, but beatable.
Put the video in .75 speed. You can tell Ben shapiro has no idea what he's talking about and makes all kinds of random statements that aren't true. He talks fast to convince people he's smart. Don't listen to Ben shapiro. He talks emotionally driven nonsense.
@@odywernke2236 he's a Harvard graduate. I can guarantee you he's smarter than you
@@user-uv3li8tk4r no you dont wanna make them cry come on now
Ben Shapiro does what the entire Avengers crew couldn't, he destroys Thanos with FACTS and LOGIC.
sebastjan krek , he talks fast, doesn’t make him clever or intelligent.
V San , thats the difference between intelligence and wisdom. While I can concede the former, he certainly lacks the latter.
@@yaserthe1 Jokes aside, I agree, he's what the philosophers would call a sophiste
Yaser Masood hes smarter than the average bear for sure but you arent wrong. I think because he talks so fast and has sound answers people often dont bother fighting him. You dont have to go very far to see that he uses fallacies that goes over peoples heads. The time it took you to explain about his fallacies hed be done with the subject.
@@darkwolf1739 The funny thing is how he often calls out semantics when he literally uses that to burn people even though his actual point doesn't correlate to the subject in the way he portrays it.
If Ben just had a debate with Thanos, he could have just ended it all and make Thanos leave
Nope!
I can imagine the TH-cam clip title
"BEN SHAPIRO DESTROYS THE MAD TITAN!"
@@deanobeany Ben Shapiro snaps on Thanos
@HISS Thanos loses the debate and then strangles Ben.
Thanos would have snapped as Ben was talking out of rage and defiance
Ben: "Marvel is not going to kill off a major character"
Marvel: *Kills Tony*
Oh crap, I didn't realize this video was his Endgame review. Thanks bruh! smh...
@@JaeWoodFLAWDSKWAD he said they wouldn't ever kill off a character and they did
@@JaeWoodFLAWDSKWAD sir its been a year. If you haven't seen the movie yet thats on you.
@Bwa Bwa Yoshi it absolutely makes sense, tony is a human and could not survive a snap.
@Bwa Bwa Yoshi wym
"The reason that I know this, is because I am not a stupid human"
-Ben Shapiro
He is stupid though, he throws around statistics and logic, that's not being smart that's being a mindless sheep, he's so afraid to have his own opinion
@@Lubble- why are you here then?
@@jmess003 because I thought he could make a sound review....he clearly can't
@@Lubble- so you base that first reply on just this video?
@@jmess003 no I base that on his videos as a whole
You can't expect Thanos to understand logical solutions to overpopulation. He is called the mad Titan after all.
Dwight give me the beets.
Couldn't the infinity gauntlet just create unlimited resources like cheat codes in RTS games?
matthew gallaway Yeah, but the point is that Thanos is literally insane. He believes wiping out half of all the life in the universe is the only answer. He's not too unlike the joker.
Dwight K. Schrute was literally thinking that
Dwight K. Schrute Its not so much that Thanos is insane as he is set into his beliefs as he has seen both the downside of people ignoring his methods, in the case of his home planet being destroyed due to overpopulation, and the upside of halving the population of many planets, such as Gamora's home planet and resulting in a prosperous life for the remaining half. He is so determined to carry out his mission because of both tragedies and successes in his past which have reinforced his beliefs more and more. And I mean, for everyone except for Spider-Man, the end result of Thanos snapping his fingers is a painless and fearless death, which he deems as mercy.
"you don't even notice the cgi"
*giant purple assed thanos walks through the door*
SickInsideLV92 👁👄👁
He means it looks so realistic
@@GhostOfViper cuz nothing says realistic like a giant purple man... lol it was sarcasm
SickInsideLV92 And then antman walks in
@@sickinsidelv9256 It is realistic though. Obviously he's an alien, but it always looks like he's actually in the environment of every scene he's in.
In fairness, in Endgame, Thanos recognizes the flaws of a 50-50 split and figures out that the only true logical solution is to wipe out everything.
Right and then build the universe from scratch with him ruling it.
Or just double the resources in the existing universe
@@thejokesonlife3745 that's the logical plan but that would kill all the drama that sells the movie.
@@jpscharged doubling resources isnt logical also. we have enough food for everyone, we just don't distribute it. look how much food is waste at restaurants after closing. if thanos doubled resources. the rich would just hoard it.
@@thanos7459 Wow, Thanos
Everyone quotes tom holland but why not Samuel Jackson’s line?
“Motherfu-“
@@shaunxbox4139 i don't care how many times he says it for me it will always be funny
I DONT FEEL SO GOOD
Still, he is the highest paid actor of all time. That makes your opinion completely irrelevant. It is not bad to play the same kind of character in every movie. It gives us the sense of continuity. I will give you an example of Linkin Park. Their album back in the day named Hybrid Theory was a really big hit. But when they released their song Heavy featuring Sia last year people severely criticized it for not sounding like Linkin Park because it was a little modern EDM type. The problem with some people is when they see someone's performance in the movie and he performs really good resulting in the movie being a hit, then they expect that actor to play the same kind of role in his every movie. If he doesn't then they say well he wasn't that good as he was in the last movie. SLJ has tapped into that and therefore he gets the big bucks.
Niles Cooper fun fact he was about to say mother, fun
Shreyas Gham Okay, I like SLJ but implying he's good because of the money he's made isn't the best way to go about it, in my opinion. That would mean that Nicki Minaj, Justin Bieber, etc are talented musicians. 😂
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS Thanos in Epic Movie Review!
Ben, I don't feel so good...
Most people's complaint was that he could have snapped his fingers and doubled the resources instead of disappearing half the people.
Than again doubling resources only leaves the greedy taking more of said resources and making no difference whatsoever.
Miguel Hernandez You're not wrong but if you randomly kill half of the universe you're left with the same problem so doubling resources seems more logical to me.
logical or not Thanos isn't called the Mad Titan for no reason.
Thanos risked his life for that 50/50 kill. ABSOLUTE MAD LAD.
Lam Truong Wasn’t it only humans?
TalionTheShadow All is the universe
Thanos has a positive K/D. How impressive.
Think you mean 50/100
@@andreasballe7470.
Iron Man: Tell me his name
Gamorra: Theranos
Loool
Fanos
if you know, you know
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Mr .shapiro I don’t feel so good
brandon crespo Top comment.
Lol wow 😂😂😂
i'll do you one better...
I don't *_see_* so good
No shit. Ben Shapiro's videos are basically the brown note of youtube political commentary. His shrill voice has been known to make people shit their pants uncontrollably.
ANGERY REACT
“Mr. Stark, I don’t feel so good”
Donovan spoooder man
That was the one end of movie death that really gave me the feels
Otto VonBearsmark right! 😭
That's what he/she said
"I don't wanna go."
Thanos: "I will wipe out half the universe."
Ben: "Lemme stop you right there."
hes right on the money about marvel cheaply killing off characters with future movies..the smart move would not to release future movie titles and facts until a month after infinity war came out or to do that as a red hearing name fake films that are actually other films and then keep some characters dead or keep for example non main heroes dead like buckeye and others
I like how hes avoiding saying spider-man "you know who im talking about" 😂
Karat Gamer he’s talking about black panther
@@crossfaded7666 ooh, its still funny tho
My first thoughts were Black Panther, but yeah he fits the description.
@@crossfaded7666 no Im pretty sure they’re right Spider-Man’s death was longer than black panthers.
@@crossfaded7666 It couldn't be Black Panther. Black Panther died too quickly, and besides, Spiderman was literally whining to Tony like a four-your-old boy to his father.
“I am Groot”
...“I am Steve Rogers”
Why is gamora?
Throw one more moon at me and I'm gonna flip.
+robert bueno She's kind of dead.
oh we are not using superhero names?
"I'm Mary Poppins yall"
Batman dies in Infinity War
Thanos is going to pay for that! >:(
Sandro Silva God help us and make that true
Sandro Silva I'm sorry Batman can't die since he longer has an insane amount of plot armor HE IS PLOT ARMOR
DC died because of infinity war
Jack dies in Titanic
Ben Shapiro: they'd never kill iron Man he brings in all the money
Endgame: *Well yes but actually NO*
the thing is they did kill some people off and had stakes..in the last film...not infinity war..i mean loki dies but outside of that which they retcon too for a spin off show to make more money off people smdh and they kill like 2 people off 1 stays dead and hes a minor character so like ok...gamora staying dead for good would of made infinity war a 10/10 film for me..not going to lie...thats real stakes...but they pussied out...kinda wish 1 avenger died in infinity war for real too..like kill off thor or have hawkeye snapped..he didn't do anything
You have made many enemies today Ben Shapiro.
Facts don't care about your feelings
His opinion is not fact. Not liking the color blue is not a fact.
@@robertpemberton3952 Spiderman not being dead is a fact
martijn van de Wetering no shit
its what he does, make enemies and destroy them. duh!!
Whether or not Spiderman is actually dying is not what made the scene sad for me. It's sad, because Peter Parker believes he is dying.
Ooooo that's actually a really good point. Nice one.
His Spidey sense was tingling the whole time. He felt it coming.
This is the actual explanation for why Spiderman was able to sense and survive slightly longer than the other characters who were killed off by Thanos. Good on you!
Don't forget, he's also got his healing, so it took him longer to go away.
YES YES YES! And the fact he was watching it happen around him.. Couldn't have said it better!
Avengers 4 Major spoiler Alert:
When every other option fails Nick Fury recruits BEN SHAPIRO and then there is a debate between BEN and THANOS .
BEN shreds THANOS to pieces and the Universe is saved .
Avengers 5 Plot : CENK UYGAR then comes to the fore claiming it was actually him not BEN who defeated THANOS and when people would disagree with him he would suggest everybody to "google it".
Nick Fury died too, dipshit.
@@YouTv4G that's tough
Shapiro DESTROYS Thanos with facts and logic.
epic
And Google is obviously on Cenk's side
You gotta appreciate the fact the a villain finally won
In the MCU universe? Yes.
Well, Infinite war was supposed to be part I, so... Thanos did not win. He just died in Part II...
J. X. He gained his purpose and killed half of the universe. I’ll say he got a victory and won. So technically he still won
@@masterofdragons82 it doesn't really count when those people are snapped back tho...
J. X. What? He literally wanted them to be gone. I don’t understand you
Ben Shapiro: *Reviews Infinity War*
Pewdiepie: It's a step in the right direction.
Pewdiepie: says nigger
Everyone: gets a heart attack
Pewdiepie: *loses money*
Yay
Rustler V6 Who cares
Pewdiepie: says nigger
Everyone: has heart attack
Pewdiepie: loses money and genuinely apologises and never does it again
Rustlerv6: yay
Everyone: rustlers kinda a cunt
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@@shanustheanus ur white
I disagree. I think this is Thanos' story. He's the focus. If you treat HIM as the main character, it's actually a complete film with three acts.
Scott Sullivan Did you watch the video?
SimmySammy 07 - Yes. He said the heroes are the main characters.
Watch from 3:47, he says it's Thanos' story
Scott Sullivan Exactly what neel376 said. Also, simply because the hero's are also main characters doesn't nessescarily suggest that the main focus of the story is centered around them. Ben states that it is Thanos' story.
Scott Sullivan yeah everyone saying they felt the film is rushed and didn’t understand it and it didn’t answer anything forget that A. It is being continued in another 2+hour movie and B. The directors intended for this film to be Thanos film with the heroes as the side characters with their plots. It’s a complete film from Thanos viewpoint
"WHERE'S GAMORA?"
"WHO'S GAMORA?"
Drax: "I'll do you one better: WHY'S GAMORA???"
I loved that joke.
TFW no one asks How is Gamora? :(
*_WHEN IS GAMORA!?_*
Ify Nsoha lmao i loved that part
Ify Nsoha Drax dieing was all I wanted not to happen!!!! DRAX FOR LIFE
Love him or hate him - Ben is spitting straight FACTS and LOGIC to Thanos.
“Including my mother” I died.
Same
Top 10 characters who can destroy Thanos even with the infinity gauntlet
The Living Tribunal, The One Above All, Dr Manhattan, The Beyonder, The Presence, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael, The Fulcrum, Proteje, Nemesis
@@ErrolBlairEverbest u forgot ben shapiro
Destroys Thanos with FACTS and LOGIC
@@ErrolBlairEverbest Everyone u mention are like Gods and unkillable deings so they for sure can 1v1 Thanos easily.
@@benjaminjaimovich4661 facts don't care about your infinity gauntlet
With all 6 infinity stones.
Just get more recources.
No, the stones can't create new resources. Although he can turn useless resources into more useful ones..
Vighnesh Mandavkar if Doctor Strange can make infinite beer, the infinity stones can.
Jeremiah Lopez no, they actually can’t make things
Even if he could do that. Then the universe population would increase WAAYYYYY more and then when these recourses end, in a very short time, it will be worse
Bullshit the Infinity Stones can bend rewrite the laws physics, space, time, and reality. The facts are this movie is terrible and is terribly written. @@infernodragon456
I personally liked the growth of the father-son relationship between Tony Stark and Peter Parker.
I mean, everyone knows that Spiderman will come back, but that scene where he's dustified and Tony's holding him I thought was really touching.
Ben Shapiro REVIEWS Infinity War with FACTS and LOGIC
Lightning McQueen kills Batman in Avengers Infinity War
Pointless Garbage Batman isn't in the Avengers buddy
Have you ever heard of sarcasm
Pointless Garbage I'm sorry the joke must've went over your head :p
Javier Foo ahh a double switcheroo I am clearly inferior to you in intellectual endeavors
You are both inferior to me. I watched your discussion silently and grunted in disapproval.
Shapiro, great debater, terrible movie reviewer.
pokerworld terrible movie
pokerworld marvel fanboy
TERRIBLE movie reviewer!!
I think he has a unique opinion. I agreed with him on this but his Star Wars reviews are a bit much.
Not really, it's all subjective. I agreed with him 100% on his Last Jedi review.
Ben and Cinemasins would make wonderful friends 😂😂😂
CinemaSins are SJWs! 😆😆😆
Mark Knight
Wait, is that true?
@@MeMe-po1ze his captain Marvel video sure makes him look like it
Bipsty McBipste
Oh rly lol
@@MeMe-po1ze yep
Ben Shapiro could defeat Thanos with TWO infinity gauntlets on
Pretty__ nice_guy thanos couldn’t defeat Ben Shapiro with 2 infinity gauntlets on.
‘I know they’re not dead because I’m not a stupid idiot’
-Ben
‘any action performed using the infinity stones is irreversible’
-red skull in the next movie
Well considering the new Spiderman trailer and it being set after Marvel End Game I guess Ben was right
@@KingKaper some wpuld not come back tho
@@KingKaper thanos snapped the people to an alternate dimension that why they can make another spiderman movie.
@@KingKaper Expect the movie will play in another universe or timeline, so ...
that's how the mafia works
I've said this before about Black Panther (the movie)... it isn't supposed to fake out the audience, it's about the characters who remain believing those who died aren't coming back... and the emotion of the audience should be for them, because they don't know what the audience knows
Good insight.
Brandon Allen exactly
'Brandon Allen' ... Totally agree with you!
Exactly I don’t know why some people just don’t get that. With that logic we should never feel any tension in any film ever because we know that the protagonist will win in the end.
Even if people like Black Panther and Spider-Man didn’t vanish it, we would have known that whoever vanished was going to come back simply because of the fact half the universe went with them. There is no way marvel would allow that to be the new reality because at the end of the day it’s a comic book movie.
Exactly, and the fact that Marvel was willing to kill off half the universe for an entire year until the next movie says something despite the fact that they’re coming back.
Ben Shapiro will be Endgames solution. Final Fight, Beats Thanos with FACTSSS
Facts don't care about your infinity stones
@@deanobeany HAHAHA I LAUGHED SO HARD
7:49 Sir, please, this is Christian server.
Jesse McFarland-Ward there needs to be more friendly people like you that support small creators lol
Jesse McFarland-Ward I see you subscribed lol. Thanks!
@Jesse McFarland-Ward thank you so much for watching and supporting small channels!
@@goldensh0t439 yep
is anyone going to address the fact that cap just said "language"?
marvel manage to make thanos who is completely CGI to appear human.
DC manage to make their superheroes who is played by regular actor appear fake.
himmelsturmerIX lmfao true. And there CGI moment with Superman's lip was horrible they couldn't even do a lip and marveled that I a whole person made him look real. Marvel is so far ahead of DC it's not even funny watching the interviews of the cast was hilarious when I asked about DC and Samuel L Jackson said Marvel has some kickass superheroes and DC has interesting bad guys LOL
Because it's easier to make something fake look real, that making something real, look real again, and instead making it look fake. It's like reinventing the wheel, but you reinvented the wheel into a square
@Martin You are worse at analogies than Ben is at movie reviews.
what about thanos looks human to you? i don't know anyone who looks like that.
not talking about his looks, more like his emotions feels real.
Ben, Thanos is the mad titan, not the reasonable titan. They've referenced his madness in past movies.
Yeah man. Everyone knows Mentor is the Reasonable Titan.
A madman has nothing left but his reason...
Cyphrum ᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ One would consider his actions "mad".
The greatest villains see themselves as the good guys.
And Ben Shapiro is just a negative individual he never says anything positive.
that doesn’t make him a good character
In conclusion, Ben Shapiro watches too much game of thrones
Thanos with 6 infinity stones only makes Ben Sheprio use 10% of his power
Everyone knows that the characters that died during the snap will probably be back, the question is how. And what really makes this movie, IMO, is the character interactions. That's what personally made me love it, and I'm sure it's why most people will see it, also Thanos is a great villain.
In the comics Nebula uses the gauntlet to bring them all back
LawofCinema They’re not technically dead but trapped in the soul stone.
The answer to how: literally the REALITY ALTERING STONES THAT DID THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
LawofCinema they’re dead. Stop being a wuss and get over it.
That's the state of modern comics. If it works for you more power to you. But for some of us stories can only be rewritten and characters brought back so many times before any suspension of belief and emotional involvement one was able to give the stories just evaporates.
"I don't wanna go, I don't wanna go" 😭
MRios1128 i don't wanna go back to sony
He didn't say "die" he said "go" which is important
Qwerty yeah, it was different.. he's newer, younger, just a kid.. he was terrified. the others have been through major stuff before, so it's different for them. that's how i saw it, at least.
David Curry interesting catch.. good point. 😉
*SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS.* another thought for you: i believe dr. strange said that he gave the stone to thanos because he considered every other scenario, and they'd always lose. so while the audience is all "wtf, doc?!" i think that he made that decision knowing that, ironically enough, giving thanos the stone was the only option to ultimately winning. i mean, of course they're going to win, but the point is that i think dr. strange has the foresight to know that his decision is the right one. the way he said it (can't remember the exact quote) just got my brain churning.
ps: maybe you noticed that on your own. just wanted to share in case you didn't.
ITS TOO SOON
Damn he wayyyy over complicated it 😂😂
I mean, thats kinda the point of film critics haha
Parallel Shapiro is a film critic?
He’s just calling it how he sees it. Some people see more, some see less.
It's a review. Of course he isn't gonna just make faces and say "the movie was good, the writing was good, acting was awesome, score was amazing" like a dumb fanboy.
Ben Shapiro bashes Infinity War for killing off characters that will clearly come back but praises Batman V Superman for killing off Superman when he was clearly coming back...
Ben Shapiro is like the snitch from recess
Who you talking about?
Randall
Just a completely normal reply passing through.
his voice is
Ben Shapiro : *Says something negative about Infinity War*
Me: Keep your hatred off this campus!
Lol
“The reason I know this is because I’m not a stupid human.” 😂
This guy needs to review Alita: Battle Angel I really enjoy his explanations
It's no coincidence that the original Avengers are still alive by the end. They're most likely the ones who're actually marked for death to bring everyone else back in the next movie.
jp3813 I think the next movie will be Avengers Assemble
+Diego Ledezma Needs a darker title to pick up from this movie's finale.
jp3813 The Last Avenger
+Alex Mitra Then there won't be an Avengers 5?
Diego Ledezma I thought that too but as it turns out in the UK the original Avengers was released as Avengers Assemble for some reason.. too bad a would have been a perfect title for Avengers 4
Great movie, watched it twice. Thanos was just fun to watch, every scene. Love a villain stomping heroes.
Same
a crusty krab
Reminds of the Joker from the Dark Knight.
a crusty krab is Thanos really a villain tho, or just a anti hero? He sees the problem and solution everyone decodes to ignore. Sure it's a fucked solution but never the less it's would still work. He's not trying to kill life, he's trying to save it.
Now he destroyed Avengers Endgame with facts, logic and a bigger hat.
I like that Ben is willing to at least acknowledge that Infinity War is well made, and well acted. That’s a fair review even if you aren’t willing to be at all charitable to the actors and film makers. I still stand behind the fact that Infinity War is the crown jewel of the Marvel Cinematic Universe
"Marvel isn't going to kill off all of its characters because it is owned by Disney"
That's what they did with Star Wars tho
Ok but lucasfilm and disney doesn't give a flying fuck about star wars so they're willing to kill off whoever as long as it fills screen time. It's not like they have an actual story to fill in the movie, just Ruin Johnson's garbage.
Not entirely true. Disney is only killing the old characters. They wont touch their new ones.
Matt Youngman name one new character in a marvel movie that was really new and not taken from the comics
@@ryanseow4494 I was talking about how I feel towards starwars. My bad man, should have specified. I feel disney doesnt care about old star wars characters, but I doubt they'd ever kill one of the new ones. It seems the ones they do kill are all shallow and exist just to die.
@@ryanseow4494 the civilians we see... Lol
Infinity war sucks and here’s why first off there’s no mentioning of Batman whatsoever second off where the hell is aqua man he’s missing in action thirdly Micheal Jackson is the reason why coach got the last infinity burger thus Turing almost everyone into brown sugar even peter Barker also why didn’t Hercules just gather all of the Greek gods a long time ago to scare off coach from trying to collect the infinity burgers. No satire and emotion whatsoever where the hell is hawkeye the only one who could stop coach with the help of doorman and the Fant4stic also there was not mentioning of the two best characters in marvel ever squirrel girl and Howard the duck!!!! Like what the fuck dreamworks get you’re shit together!!!
EXACTLY
Toxic, I was going to say the same thing but luckily I found your post and it saved me the time of writing it! Thank you!
At first I cringed when you said Batman but then I read the rest of your comment, gave me a chuckle.
S L O P E
I mean Lightning McQueen didn't need to give Thanos the last stone 🙄 he just didn't want Shrek to die,so selfish 😑
Say what you want Ben Shapiro Avengers Infinty War is the greatest comic book crossover movie of all time
They should have just called this movie Avengers Infinity War Part 1 and then Endgame Avengers Infinity War Part 2
I agree with his major problem. I had to suspend my intellect so I could feel the complete impact of all of the characters who died. I know they will be back after the next movie, but for a brief moment I felt the pain from their death. Definitely worth it.
jking0351 King I have a feeling that in order to get those characters back, most of the og avengers are gonna have to sacrificed themselves for that to happen.
I tried that too, but then I realized I shouldn’t force that stuff and just stopped.
jking0351 King bro it doesn't suspend your intellect. If anything it increases it bc you have to look at the bigger picture of how the characters surrounding the death feel. Like imagine what Tony is thinking or okioya
Isaac11 this. I think that the reason that they "killed" all those characters was BECAUSE that fans know about future movies. Now, in the next film the stakes are real, ANY of those character can truly die.
you had to suspend your intellect... wow, pull your head out of your ass man.
Good point but I think for the characters that faded away the point is not for you to think they are dead the point is to see the consequences of thanos' actions and how they affect the living characters, because those two things are what the next film is focused on.
Exactly! I cried when Peter faded mostly because of what I imagine it did to Stark. He was basically the son Tony doesn't have but clearly wants. But he's also someone ELSES child and he was responsible for Peter. So Tony failed Parker, Aunt May AND himself and that just ruined me.
You’re making excuses
Brian Aguilar
It's not an excuse if you're not a complete dipshit that lacks basic empathy.
Tracer That's the most pathetic excuse, they're all gonna be revived the next movie, they don't deserve my empathy.
Have some fucking standards.
Chinko 69
The characters don't know that, that's literally the entire point of the scene. Or did you need a stranger on the internet to explain the basics of dramatic irony?
But yet! We’re all still going to watch the 2nd part 😂
Ben Shapiro’s entire world view could be summed up by “no cause I’m not a stupid idiot”.
“We could have had a seven minute movie” yeah you could do that with every movie, what’s your point?
I think his point was that he would prefer they just skipped the part which they are going to reverse anyway, kept the important and lasting story progression and went on with that ultimately "real" storyline.
Yumidori Iro it's integral to the story. Events here affect other characters as well
Yumidori Iro but you don’t know what’s going to happen next so ur point has no actual value
Exactly
Jonathan Pilz That the movie had no point. It is one big tie in to the real movie. Even the cliffhanger you already know the answer to, so there is no point to this movie. You're just waiting to see how it is executed. It is as if you read the script to a play and you're just waiting to see how the actors play it out.
The problem Ben has with the snap is essentially the sane problem marvel has had for awhile now. The sense of tension is gone when you know that certain characters aren’t in any real danger since they show up later on.
But I disagree with Ben on this one. The characters deaths aren’t purely for us to mourn. It’s for us to see this relationship between characters hit this emotional stop. Spideys death was emotional not only for the death, but his fear and the sense of loss tony has from that moment. Like a father watching his son die. It matters that he died, regardless of his future resurrection, purely for the fact that he did die. He wasn’t saved last minute, or a gotcha moment. He died and everyone had to sit and watch helplessly as he faded away. And the impact of that moment will affect future decisions and they way our characters look at things later on.
Getting a nasty cut on your body matters little when you know it’ll heal in time. But in the moment it hurts like hell and you’re bleeding. And you’ll bear the scar of that moment for the rest of your life.
Fuck it. I became a believer after no one died in Civil War , and I still felt heartbroken . You don’t have to decapitate Captain America for those movies be top tier lol .
The snap comes out of the comic books, later in the comic books Nebula gets the gauntlet off Thanos and does the cosmis reset. Ofcourse we know it’s going to happen because the movie is based off of the comics... His arguement of us knowing they’re going to come back is just stupid. I knew throughout the entire movie that is was going to happen, still enjoyed it a ton.
I do think it's interesting when the biggest complaints about a film is things that aren't actually in the film to begin with. It's not the films fault that a lot of us know that some of the dead characters still have contracts for already slated movies or that it's made by Disney.
It also seems a bit ironic giving out spoiler warnings about what happens in the movie and then reminding everyone of the business side of the movie that doesn't feature in the movie at all. If you had seen the movie without knowing any of the this extra stuff this 'review' spoiled you more than a person who hadn't seen the movie but knows about the contracts and business side.
You should judge a movie based on it's own merits, not by how much of your "homework" you had done before watching it.
well said John
Ben it's Thanos "The Mad Titan" NOT, Thanos "The Logical Titan".
Imagine how gangster this movie would have been if they just ended the MCU after it. That would have been epic
Dr Strange probably saw this all coming though. That one possible reality where they win.
AsurasPath22 correct that was the main hint. He looked into the future and saw only one possible victory. Once he realized they weren't on that path he gave away the stone saying "we're in the end game...it was the only option" was the hint. So he opened up the path that leads to Captain Marvel being called (end credit scene if you haven't seen it) who is the only one truly capable of possibly beating Thanos, giving the potential for a second fight down the line rather than everyone dying.
AsurasPath22 captain marvel and adam warlock gon fuck up thanos and gamorras sister is gonna get the gauntlet and reverse all the deaths.
Squirrel girl
Elijah Lawrence I think you're missing the point. He doesn't open the path so Captain Marvel can defeat Thanos. He makes a decision that is absolutely contrary to Thanos' decision. Thanos traded a life for power. Strange traded power for a life. That's the whole point of the movie. If he traded a life (Stark) to keep the Time stone, he'd be just as evil as Thanos.
Adam G. That's actually an awesome thought. Opposite decisions for opposite ends of the moral spectrum, I guess would be a way to word it. Which in a way could be considered to lend credence to it being the path to follow to defeat Thanos. Kind of an equal and opposite reaction.
Thanos' crazy philosophy shouldn't be an issue, it's what makes him the villain! He believes he is doing the right thing even though it's madness.
That's a weak villain in my books.
He is called the mad titan for a reason
Jisaneko would you rather a villain who acts without reason? lmao
They clearly intended to portray him as a villain who has understandable motivations who is just too extreme
The big problem that even regular viewers are picking out, is that Thanos isn't just too ideologically motivated, he's also an idiot
He has the power of a god literally at his fingertips, and of all the ways he could possibly solve that problem, he picks perhaps the worst one, that isn't even a long term solution
Lazypackmule sounds like you're just listing more reasons why we should hate him
How did this come in my recommendation so late? How can I not watch this?
“Everyone is in the movie , including my mom”
Lul
Got to disagree with Ben here, reversing deaths in comics is commonplace. This story line is straight from the comics. The snap happens in the comics too. IW was awesome!!!
gracilism Agreed. Besides it does have an effect on those who are still alive. They are scarred for life even when the others return.
But Ben was actually right. In the comics, the snap was actually at the beginning and then the actual story happened
@Sasuke Uchiha I'm assuming some will stay dead and even then, we have the next film to kill off other characters (most likely Cap).
Not exactly Thanos‘ motivation to kill half the galaxy was actually just because he wanted to please Death itself. Yes he‘s in love with death
@Sasuke Uchiha
I mean... Isn't that the basis of all superhero movies for the most part? Happy ending? I knew there was going to be a reversal from the point that Strange gave Thanos the stone and told Tony it was the only way. He knew the outcome, he also knew that was the move to beat Thanos. The fact that Thanos killed half of the universe and then ends his crusade would also be a terrible end to the movie lol.
Spongebob kills peter in infinity war
Chabz who's peter?
Alex Mason that'd be peter Pettigrew
Peter Dinklage
Explains why squidward was in it
Dude, thanks for spoiling!
It's called story telling
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A rare disagreement with Ben here. In the comics--the printed version--NO ONE stays dead. You have to bring them back due to both popularity and so future generations can experience the character.
I think it's true that all the character deaths softened the impact, but I noticed that nearly all of the characters who died were the young, recent avengers (black panther, spiderman, etc.). Doesn't that strike everyone as a little odd? I have a feeling that Captain America and Ironman (the old Avengers) who at some point have to be written out of the franchise, may sacrifice themselves in the next Avengers movie in order to bring back the new Avengers. Just a prediction. I can't think of a better exit for Captain America especially.
If the rule was "you can die if you are either a supporting cast character or a main character who is less interesting than your supporting cast", I would believe that they were dead. This is why I could kind of buy when T'challa died. He's lame, the antagonist of the film was way more interesting, as was his sister, girlfriend, best friend, and head guardswoman. A movie about them trying to rebuild Wakanda while dealing with his loss would be a good film. Seeing Doctor Strange die took me out of the movie, because he is the only interesting person in his movie. Also, It would not take me out of the movie if Captain America had died, his main superpower right now is leadership and moral fiber. Having another character cast into his role would be tremendous and compelling character growth for whoever that was.
Yup
Luigi Vincenzo hulks comin for that ass
I'm not sure the quality of a movie is necessarily based in the philosophical soundness of the villain's ideology ...
I think certainly the quality of a story is enhanced by the philosophies of its characters being sound and understandable. I'm not saying this one is not, but I do think it is good writing to develop characters' motivations to a point where the viewer can empathise to some extent even with the bad guys.
Where did Shapiro say it is?
1:45 "So I have a couple of problems with the movie ... " He then commences to say what he likes, then at 2:26 resumes enumerating his problems, of which one is Thanos' motivation is insufficiently explained by his "Malthusian nonsense" because "no one explained to him" the problems with Malthus and Paul Ehrlich's philosophy.
The thing about villains, though, is that they have warped values predicated upon bad philosophy.
Thing is ... a lot of people subscribe to Malthus' ideas about overpopulation.
Yumidoro Iro - Understandable, yes, but it's also okay for them to be flawed. I'm reading John Truby's "Anatomy of Story", a great how-to book on fiction, and he writes about how the best villains have a moral code that is "flawed, but understandable". While Thanos' logic is almost instantly refutable, you *can* see the logic in it.
Likewise, the best heroes also have flawed morals, though they often work through them by the end of the film. To their credit, most MCU films seem to have a handle on this (and the Phase 3 ones have just been knocking it out of the park).
let’s say Hypothetically Thanos does Destroy half the planet
Ben: "they're not going to kill of the stars because there are already movies already slated on the books with these stars"
After watching Endgame: Rip Black Widow
Thanos being wrong is the point.
Exactly.
Peter Parker what was he wrong about ?
Exactly. He is supposed to be a really despicable villain built on false morals.
Killing half the universe so that the other half can benefit. I don’t know why Ben trying to re-write the movie. Thanks is a villain and his philosophy is suppose to be evil.
So what if Thanos just used the infinity stones to double the amount of resources in the galaxy 😂
Good idea, but no. He can only manipulate matter, change things in to bubbles for example, not create matter out of nothing.
How about changing trash into resources hmmmm?
With the Infinity Gauntlet he is basicly God and he can do everything even creat matter if he is allowed to do so
Ert Gret if he double the amount of resources, he will double the mass in the planets and stars, therefore, the gravity of the planets would crush every kind of life,suns would be transformed in black holes.... and the universe would over
Ert Gret sorry for my english, i'm brazilian by the way
Ben Shapiro: Had to figure out they didn’t all die due to future movie releases and possible loss of profit Everyone who read the Infinity War comic: 🙄
The entire point of why thanos is a villain is because he thinks that his insane plan is the right way to save the universe from overpopulation. He’s too arrogant to have his mind changed. In the movie, Gamora tells him that he doesn’t know that his plan is the only way to prolong life in the universe. He replies that he is the only one who knows it. Thus, a clear example of his arrogance and inability to have his mind swayed
Lol. Ben, I love you man, but sometimes you're too smart for your own good. Thanos is crazy. His nickname is "The Mad Titan." Thanos' motivation is supposed to make just enough sense to understand how he is able to justify his crusade but still be crazy.
DropIn xV
Exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah. You don't have to empathise with his motivation, you empathise with his emotion and you admire his conviction. Thats why he's terrifying and amazing.
He’s definitely crazy. His journey might have started off from a wish to achieve a greater good... but killing people the old fashioned way for so long has blinded him of the possibilities. He sees the gauntlet as just a way to complete what he started, and I believe he wants the killing to stop.
Valid complaints. But for me the sadness really came from the empathy of the characters. They are all experiencing death. Not sad because i won't get to see them again. We know we'll see them again
John Adams yup the only one that made me sad was Spider-Man cause it felt so real
(just to be sure, spoilers for Dragonball)
That's how I learned to approach deaths in Dragonball and Dragonball Z as well. I know they won't stay dead permanently, but the experience still is real for the characters.
Brand New... movies
J Melara Yup
he has a point . when thanos choked loki to death , it felt real and made us ready for something dark . but when superheroes died due to thanos snap , it just felt like naah they arent gonna kill half of the main characters in such a way . they are gonna return somehow in the next film . though i have to say , this is one of the best marvel movies ever made .
4:21. I knew it! Ben Shapiro couldn’t be human with all his knowledge!
Paused at 4:50 just to comment my opinion on Ben's issue.
I understand where he is coming from, but he is taking a meta perspective. Look at in in-universe.
From an in-universe perspective, what happened happened. The next part of the story is how that is dealt with, and huge chunks of it undone.
If we know that a certain character will be back, that doesn't mean that the character who witnessed their death knows that. This is where suspension of disbelief comes into play, and we wait to see how this is resolved.
I mean, just as we know that many of the dead characters will ultimately be saved? We also know Thanos will ultimately lose, because it is a hero/Disney company movie, and the villain won't ultimately win. Arguing that the movie has less impact because we know the killed characters will likely come back is a lot like arguing that the entire movie series isn't worth watching, because we already know the good guys will win.
Sure we do. But we don't know how, and we don't know at what cost, and we don't know how they'll rebuild.
Well, we don't know how the killed characters will be revived, or at what cost, or what new problems bringing them back may entail.
In the end? It's a movie. As long as the story is more-or-less internally consistent, we should be able to enjoy it.
Exactly. Parker's plot directly informs Stark's role and motivation in the next film, for example.
wow.. exactly. you are 1000% correct.
While its true that in-universe these characters are actually dead, to Ben's point it breaks immersion within the story for an audience member to know that theres a Spiderman movie currently in production. It's much harder as an audience member to feel like a part of the story with that knowledge invalidating basically everything that occurs. Personally, it makes me feel insulted that I know the cost of victory is essentially nothing at this point but the directors are asking me to close my eyes and believe its huge.
Adam Wolf Except there should be some sort of resolution to this movie beyond pure set up for the next. The point is that we DON'T know the cost of victory except that it is significantly less than what we're "intended" to think it is. Because of this, there isn't any conclusion to this movie in any sense pertaining to the Avengers and as such it is a failure from a narrative perspective. Its really fun to watch, but there isnt any point to seeing it again without immediately watching the sequel, which in my opinion is a poor design choice.
you said it right bro/sis
They're not trying to "fool" anyone. You have to consider how the ending feels for the characters and not your meta knowledge about this movie, it's like you're choosing to not enjoy some parts. Also, the fact that something can be reversed in a sequel, doesn't make the previous movie obsolete, that's nonsense. We're dealing with 6 stones that have enormous powers, if you don't expect crazy stuff to happen then it's really not for you. Dr strange used a stone to see 16.000.000 different timelines, and you're gonna complain about how they'll probably bring them back? Of course they will, but the heroes in the movie don't know that and they seem to feel hopeless, AND NO ONE knows HOW they'll bring them back. So that's the exciting thing about the second part plus some potential "real" deaths this time around.
They wouldn’t kill off that major character, they didn’t realize eventually he would die irl. Rip Chadwick boseman
Thanos: I Am Inevitable
Ben: I am Shapiro
I love Ben Shapiro's political commentary but he seems to be the most boring dude in real life
anything beyond missionary makes him uncomfortable
I don't know what was he expecting, it was a Marvel movie
Conservatives aren't usually adventurous or super exciting.
Tony Crony sounds like a normal dude outside of politics. That's a good thing, most well known people wish they have a lower profile life.
He seems like hes fun at parties lol
Yea we know spider man ain't dead. But I cried nonetheless. But it was more for Tony. Peter was basically the son he never had. They set that up early in the movie. Not only that but he's someone ELSES son (technically nephew but same idea) that he was completely responsible for. So he failed Peter, he failed May and he failed himself. The devastation I imagined Tony was going through is what broke the water works for me.
i don't think tony felt that bad about it. if peter actually died in battle then that's understandable. they all fought thanos and all failed. peter died because thanos achieved his goal. in that sense, peter could have just as easily been at home sleeping and still got erased. i think tony was feeling bad mainly about them failing to defeat thanos and the consequences, rather than failing peter.
+Mr LloydVal
Tony may also have felt bad because he didn't always treat spoderman with respect.
while every1 was saying no not spider man I yelled F ya that dudes an A hole too bad he wont stay dead.
Yea even though i knew he would be back, and im sure the Russo bros thew they weren’t going to fool any one, but that scene of Peter disappearing had some weight to it because of how he went. Hes still just a kid who just witnessed the other heroes just disappear and seems he gets really scared to just die. He had real fear and kinda turned into a little kid scared of going to the doctor trying to hang on to tony feeling hopeless. It was a sad tear jerker if you just watched the movie not thinking about the behind the scenes stuff. Bens acting like that bad audience person yelling out “hes not dead hes just behind the camera!”
AgeDrain
that's because of his spider sense. i felt absolutely no difference watching him disappear than the rest of the characters. him being a kid does not make his life any more or less valuable than anyone else's. most people love their lives and most people don't want to be murdered regardless of their age.
I hate when people say “oh they wouldn’t kill that character for real” like duh. That’s not what’s important, the important thing is the reaction of the people who didn’t die. We stay with them and feel their loss, it’s not a spectacle it’s a funeral of their world.
he was kinda wrong cause the snap did matter...iron man cough...thanos won in almost every reality and they did undo it kinda...they also had to wait to do it..theres a lot to endgame..losing black widow meant the snap had stakes..period..and if they kept gamora dead his argument would be wrong but they didn't even loki somehow is back so they kinda did screw up infinity war...
Three years ago, there were 5 people in America that hadn't seen this movie yet. 5 people who hadn't learned the truths taught in the Infinity War. I was one of those 5. It is now 2022 and I still haven't seen what the Infinity War had to show the world. Am I the last American in this position? No, I am not alone. My husband walks this path with me. How will he react when he finds out that I have learned the truth of what happened during the Infinity War? Only time will tell.
As soon as Black Panther disappeared you knew that they'd all come back in the 2nd one. No way they aren't making a part 2 to that movie.
Same with Spiderman and the Guardians.
I didn't think black panther was that good. I like the character but the story seemed so rushed as if they picked a formula then filled in some dialogue.
I mean theres already a black panther 2 and spider man far from home announcement
He meant spiderman. Which made alot of money and is scheduled to have another movie with venom.
Disney loves money... Black Panther made a ridiculous amount of money.... So yeah... BP 2 is gauranteed.
I thought Avengers Infinity War was amazing!!! Yes it had a few problems but over all Marvel did great and I can't wait until part 2!!!
Josiah Kratz Probs one of the greatest movies of all time.
Part 2?
You mean Avengers 4? Which is a completely desperate movie then this one? Infinity War was a complete movie.
Gary Sanchez it was originally part 2 for it but you know it got cancel
*How is youtube NOW just recommending me this??!!!* *I love Ben and this movie!*
man 3 years later and that trailer still hypes me up