I personally think that a good role model in television (or any media honestly) should always have some kind of flaw to them. This is because in real life, no one is perfect. Everyone is flawed in some way, shape, or form, and those flaws are what makes each of us unique from one another. In my opinion, having a flawed protagonist is important and can even show kids that they don't have to be "perfect" if they wanna be a good person. Idk, that's just my personal take on it. Hopefully I'm making sense here!
I'd like to point out that Phineas and Ferb have been shown to get building permits for some of their projects. They are responsible, law-abiding kids. There also was an episode where their mom did see what they were doing, told them to stop, and they immediately obeyed. (I suspect Ollie reading too much into Phineas and Ferb's actions at such a young age may be a consequence of being the son of a theorist lol. Either way, you parent how ya gotta parent.)
As a guy who always related to girl characters I find the idea of "boy" and "girl" role models quiet degrating. I think character should go first and gender second. Not the other way around. By the way, I agree with your video. Matpat is definitely biased. To say the character isn't a good role model only because they participate in combat means to discredit all action shows. I personally am a big fan of Wordgirl. And I relate to her even as a grown adult man. To say her compression and well meaning nature is less only because she beats up bad guys is so dismissive.
I feel like if you are so fixated on the gender of characters you want someone to be like, it feels like you just want the show to raise your kid, instead of teaching your kid about stuff like that yourself…
If Aang, the pacifist who rewrites the rules specifically to subvert the violent resolution that was expected, is too violent for you, *YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT OF THAT SHOW!* Aang was based on tang sanzang, who in turn was based on the real Buddhist missionary xuanzang, who brought the mahayana scriptures from China west into India.
Boys don't project themselves onto characters? My brother, being obsessed with Sonic, would literally sprint as fast as he could and ask if you could see smoke trailing behind him.
While I can not say I wholeheartedly agree with your video you bring up good points in a wellstructured way and you remain polite and aren't just rambeling. I respect that very much and you have made me think over the video a second time. I can see points from both videos. Great first video. Have a subscriber
The Barbie Movie is about how barbie learns to find happiness in a patriarchal world that is not built to uplift her, and if any man watches the movie and dumbs that concept down to nothing, then they clearly did not get the point.
RE: the violence thing, idk if Matt was saying violent superheroes can't be good role models but it makes sense why he wouldn't watch his very young son to watch them since he doesn't want to expose him to such violence. There was one young kid in my neighborhood growing up who watched nothing but action shows like this and would try to attack me and my brothers whenever we came over so it definitely can have an influence on young minds.
@@johnjekyllson28 I agree. I'm not saying MatPat's not being hypocritical about this. I agree with OP's video overall. I just wanted to address the specific statement he made about not understanding the argument that violent characters can't be heroes.
I've never really formed a concrete definition, but I guess someone who engages in fights on a regular bases. Looking again, I suppose a couple of these guys have been in fights once or twice
Feel like you were a little harsh on the female characters at the start, the bad things they do are focused on in the story; they have whole arcs for all the stuff in Steven universe, bubblegums whole character arc was letting go of control. Feels a bit disingenuous.
The biggest issue his video has going on is the generalization, for making, I imagine, accessibility better for those like me who haven't seen a major chunk of these talked-about/misinterpreted shows by Matt.
Depending on someone's view they could be seen as violent as well it all depends on your opinion and veiw of the character one person's view won't be the same as the next person's veiw
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I personally think that a good role model in television (or any media honestly) should always have some kind of flaw to them. This is because in real life, no one is perfect. Everyone is flawed in some way, shape, or form, and those flaws are what makes each of us unique from one another. In my opinion, having a flawed protagonist is important and can even show kids that they don't have to be "perfect" if they wanna be a good person. Idk, that's just my personal take on it. Hopefully I'm making sense here!
Also… do characters need to be role models? Can’t parents talk to their kids about the good and the bad of the characters they watch?
I'd like to point out that Phineas and Ferb have been shown to get building permits for some of their projects. They are responsible, law-abiding kids. There also was an episode where their mom did see what they were doing, told them to stop, and they immediately obeyed. (I suspect Ollie reading too much into Phineas and Ferb's actions at such a young age may be a consequence of being the son of a theorist lol. Either way, you parent how ya gotta parent.)
As a guy who always related to girl characters I find the idea of "boy" and "girl" role models quiet degrating. I think character should go first and gender second. Not the other way around.
By the way, I agree with your video. Matpat is definitely biased. To say the character isn't a good role model only because they participate in combat means to discredit all action shows. I personally am a big fan of Wordgirl. And I relate to her even as a grown adult man. To say her compression and well meaning nature is less only because she beats up bad guys is so dismissive.
I feel like if you are so fixated on the gender of characters you want someone to be like, it feels like you just want the show to raise your kid, instead of teaching your kid about stuff like that yourself…
If Aang, the pacifist who rewrites the rules specifically to subvert the violent resolution that was expected, is too violent for you, *YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT OF THAT SHOW!*
Aang was based on tang sanzang, who in turn was based on the real Buddhist missionary xuanzang, who brought the mahayana scriptures from China west into India.
Boys don't project themselves onto characters? My brother, being obsessed with Sonic, would literally sprint as fast as he could and ask if you could see smoke trailing behind him.
While I can not say I wholeheartedly agree with your video you bring up good points in a wellstructured way and you remain polite and aren't just rambeling. I respect that very much and you have made me think over the video a second time. I can see points from both videos. Great first video. Have a subscriber
I wholeheartedly agree, this video was a big disappointment for the Film Theory finale, in my opinion.
The Barbie Movie is about how barbie learns to find happiness in a patriarchal world that is not built to uplift her, and if any man watches the movie and dumbs that concept down to nothing, then they clearly did not get the point.
RE: the violence thing, idk if Matt was saying violent superheroes can't be good role models but it makes sense why he wouldn't watch his very young son to watch them since he doesn't want to expose him to such violence. There was one young kid in my neighborhood growing up who watched nothing but action shows like this and would try to attack me and my brothers whenever we came over so it definitely can have an influence on young minds.
But Marvelous Ladybug also has violence, doesn’t she? A few of the female characters under “positive role models” were like that.
@@johnjekyllson28 I agree. I'm not saying MatPat's not being hypocritical about this. I agree with OP's video overall. I just wanted to address the specific statement he made about not understanding the argument that violent characters can't be heroes.
15:25 What do you consider a violent character because some of these guys probably shouldn’t be here
I've never really formed a concrete definition, but I guess someone who engages in fights on a regular bases. Looking again, I suppose a couple of these guys have been in fights once or twice
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Yo, great first video. Respect.
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Feel like you were a little harsh on the female characters at the start, the bad things they do are focused on in the story; they have whole arcs for all the stuff in Steven universe, bubblegums whole character arc was letting go of control. Feels a bit disingenuous.
Common mistake when arguing. When the opposition is going full on one side, it’s easy to go full on the other side.
The biggest issue his video has going on is the generalization, for making, I imagine, accessibility better for those like me who haven't seen a major chunk of these talked-about/misinterpreted shows by Matt.
Fuck it people are subscribing cuz the video I’m too bored to watch is good, imma subscribe cuz I trust people
Nice analysis
Lmao
If mat pat really thinks that female movie characters can't be violent well what about she hulk
Depending on someone's view they could be seen as violent as well it all depends on your opinion and veiw of the character one person's view won't be the same as the next person's veiw
edging to it rn🙏🙏🙏
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Solution: watch anime instead. hehe
Do you think watching something like Cutie Honey would be better?
@@hamlet1055 That's the first time I'm hearing about this one... HAHA