Caliper Slide Pin Lubrication
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- How to lubricate your brake caliper slide pins. You can do this job while the caliper bracket is still on the vehicle but in this video I have removed it for easier demonstration of the process. The caliper grease I used in this video is a rubber friendly silicone ceramic brake parts lubricant and has a working temperature range of -50 to 3000 degrees fahrenheit (-46 to 1649 degrees celsius). Thanks for watching. Please comment, like and subscribe !.
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It is important to lubricate your brake caliper slide pins as failure to do so may cause them to stick or even completely seize up which could cause uneven wear of your brake pads. The car may appear to drive normally, but the pads will only be pushed onto the disc from the piston side. This will give reduced braking ability on one wheel, and wear out the pad on the piston side much faster. The pads could also stay stuck against the rotor which will build up heat in the brakes and wear your pads down even quicker.
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Until recently I wasn't aware of this product.Ive done this job on a couple of Calipers and have used either HMP grease or Copaslip.Some of my old Car magazines actually used the same in their DIY features.However I have since discovered they are not the best lubricants because they can degrade the rubber seals over time.I think its good you've featured the Silicon so that older DIYers are aware of it!Thanks.
Thanks as always. It was hard to find a caliper pin grease that ticked all the boxes. I heard the green Permatex mentioned a lot but apparently that can degrade the rubber seals too.
If you find grease even on the pins you're lucky and doing well.... I have done brake jobs with pins heat welded into caliper brackets because there was no grease at all and the brakes were dragged so bad it overheated everything.
Great video and info!! 👍💯
Thanks for watching !
Just installed two brand new calipers. One was clearly older stock than the other and the factory grease was so hard I could barely separate them. I cleaned as much as I could and then used my own premium CRC synthetic silicon lube.
When it came time to install I found it was still too much effort to remove the caliper from the bracket, and this time it pulled one of those “anti vibration sleeves” out with it. I guess it was supposed to come with it all along and needed grease around the sleeve.
I used the opportunity to clean the rest of the factory lube out and used more of my good lube but I actually couldn’t get the caliper and bracket onto the rotor because the slides would not go all the way down.
I needed to take the caliper off one more time and, once again, it was stuck. This time I found the anti-vibration sleeve was bent and cracked, no doubt because it got snagged on something on the way out. Brand new OE replica caliper but not actually OEM so I don’t even know if it is compatible with one from my old caliper. The boots certainly aren’t since they are permanently attached to the replacement bracket (TRQ brand).
Nice work.
Thanks!
Most braking parts for cars are made by Seiken or aisin. So i always use seiken grease. Suitable for the rubber
tanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching !
This is skilled person! Best video on TH-cam 👍
Thanks for watching !
After all the cleaning, lube the pin and insert into the caliper channel without the rubber boot and turn the pin a few times to spread the lube all around the channel then withdraw the pin. Insert the rubber boot slightly coat the pin again then insert the pin. This
And how am I? run free?
More lube is not necessarily better, Especially in this case. You only need what he put on them.
If your not doing brake jobs for you an the family frequently a tube of sly-glyde is only 6$ compared to a big bottle with a brush for $14-$25. It will still do 10-20 or more jobs with that, just no brush.
* Sil-Glyde
Thank you for making an informative video, not an entertainment video. Im so sick of watching videos to learn something only to be forced to listen to other peoples crappy music. At annoying levels. And even though im the only M.F'er without a radio in america, I'll choose my own crappy music, ok!
You're welcome, thanks for watching !
Thanks
You're welcome :)
So.. I m having this issue.. when you insert the slider pin it's depressed. I think this may be due to the grease. The pin has too much grease. The pint should have a spring action after greasing
Brake cleaner and compressed air for the slide pin housing? Is it ok to use Liqui Moly Ceramic paste or too thick for this application? Silicon grease instead?
That should do the job alright. Silicone grease seems to be recommended more often than not but I'm not too sure about the Liqui Moly to be honest
Good job! I take it one step further. I insert Brake Cleaner straw deep inside the bore to wash out any impurities then blow it out with compressed air.
Yup! Same!!
I was looking for a way to better clean out that grease from the bore. Do you worry about any contamination of the grease with the brake clean?
@@FishFace441 Nothing wrong with using brake cleaner but you must first remove as much grease as you can from the bore with cotton swabs on wooden sticks. After using the cotton swabs, spray it with brake cleaner, turn it upside down so brake clean that didn't evaporate drains out. Now use a cotton swab to finish cleaning it. If you do this there's no chance of cross contamination. If you want better results, don't use the grease in the video, use Toyota's pink rubber grease. It's much better than the Permatex for the slide pins. The permatex is great for any metal to metal contact, and because it's silicone based, it can be used on rubber parts, but it doesn't do as good a job as the Toyota pink grease. It's official name is Lithium soap base glycol grease. I've used it for over 20 years and my brake jobs last 7 to 9 years. Don't use the pink grease on metal to metal contact only on slide pins because of the rubber. You can get it on Ebay for about $25. The tube will last you years. On metal to metal contact you can use the grease shown in the video.
Make sure to force the trapped air out that's been trapped at the end of the pins otherwise the outer pad will slightly bind on the disc causing uneven pad wear apart from that a good job.
LIQUI MOLY Synthetic Lubricant for Brake Pins 5 g (21119) Is this product suitable for brake calipers? I would be happy to help
Okay, please no guessing. *2000 Honda Civic EX's Front Brake Slider Pin (1:10) with rubber O-Ring.
Is it placed on the top or bottom?
*shop had installed both same slider pins without O-Ring on Driver & Passenger.
*assuming you don't have a service manual.
This may help: th-cam.com/video/iedv77K7zEY/w-d-xo.html
One driver reports "synthetic" brake lubricant distorted the rubber grommet at the end of his slide pins. He claims the grommet swelled so much in both diameter and length, it compressed the slide pin, itself, and reduced braking action.
After his experience, user says he will use only Sil-Glyde silicone lubricant on his brakes-- no synthetics.
Sil-Glyde is a good lubricant to use on slide pins because it won't hurt rubber parts. I use to use it with good results but when I started using Toyota's pink rubber grease, I was so happy with results that it's the only grease I will use on slide pins or on anything that involves rubber. I also don't inspect the rubber bushings nor the rubber dust boots. I just replace them. It's best so they don't fail in a couple of years and then brake pads start dragging. Don't use Toyota's pink greease on metal to metal contact. Use the grease shown in the video for metal to metal contact.
hello! Please tell me if it can also be used on the big central brake piston?
You can check that here: www.permatex.com/products/lubricants/brakes-parts/permatex-silicone-extreme-brake-parts-lubricant-8-oz/
No, best thing to use is brake fluid.
thanks for the video! which slide pin has the rubber boot the top or the bottom?
You're welcome. It's usually the bottom slide pin
thanks ill give it a try, @@screwsnutsandbolts
Depends on the brake system. Some have 2 some have none some have upper pin some have lower pin. On a 2017 Toyota Highlander for instance the pin with the rubber seal is opposite the front calliper got the, rear. I think it’s bottom pin on front and top pin on the rear. That’s why it’s best to do one pin at a time.
@@Zeek800 Yeah, it just depends on the year, make and model.
@@Zeek800 Hey, I see you work on Toyotas. Have you ever used Toyota's pink rubber grease on the slide pins? It's the Lithium soap base glycol grease.
Awesome! Is it ok to use copper grease on the slider pins?
Thanks, It's not recommended
Never use copper grease or anti-seize on slide pins.
What is your thought about dedicated grease vs silicone grease ?
Thanks !
If you can get one, I'd recommend a dedicated grease for the job but a good high temperature silicone grease is a good substitute
You mentioned about not putting grease on the end of the pin.
I understand why as it wont give full travel of the slide bolt.
But earlier in the video you used a drill bit and knapkin and compressed the grease.
You really should have made more effort to clean the inside bore for the pin.
I was wondering why a cleaning solutions wasn't used, myself. Some kind of spray that would break up the old grease.
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Thanks !
Will this product damage the caliper pin rubbers?
No it's rubber friendly
Thank you
when there is rubber on the pin only use clear silicone paste
Ive done this but with copper grease. The rubber pin seems like its stuck and can hardly move. But the the other pin with no sleave is fine. What am i doing wrong
Copper Grease is mineral based and may damage any rubber component that it comes into contact with such as rubber boots, gaiters, seals and O rings, etc.
There was copper grease put on before from last owner. It looks like the rubber end bit on the pin has swollen so I'll release it all. Use proper grease and take off the rubber end bit too 👍
I would put silicone grease to lube the pins.
Silicone is fine.
Are the boots expensive? Why not just change them? Thx
No they're not actually expensive, this video is just focused on the slide pin lubrication.
Bingo. Usually comes as a kit with rubber boots and calliper slide pins and the calliper mounting bolts. Depending on the vehicle it can be from $5 or $6 to $15. Good to have spares on hand anyway because reusing a cracked or ripped rubber boot will mean corrosion and you’ll need to replace the calliper bracket and likely the pins and bolts.
I never inspect the rubber dust boots nor the rubber bushings on the slide pins. I just replace them with new ones. Also, if it has sheet metal clips that the brake pad ears ride on, I replace them too. They go through so many heating and cooling cycles that it's best to replace. If you want your job to last, it's best to replace them. They're not expensive so why not.
Even easier is shoot a bunch of drake clean down the hole
I was told this stuff will dry out n get hard
Where did you hear that ?
Don’t use anti seize ! Use proper silicone high heat grease ! The other will dry out !
This isn't anti-seize. This is Permatex 80653 Silicone Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant. Probably the best lube there is for caliper pins.
@@screwsnutsandbolts No, the best grease for caliper slide pins is Toyota's pink rubber grease. It's a Lithium soap base glycol grease. All my brake jobs last from 7 to 9 years and pads wear out evenly. Only use the pink grease on the slide pins because of the rubber bushing/sleeve and rubber dust boots. Use the grease in the video for metal to metal contact.
What are you talking about?
@@bernardocisneros4402 Calm your jets little girl. Seeing that the failure rate is practically zero, Permatex 80653 will work just fine.
HOW ABOUT IF YOU CLEAN THE PIN, RUBBER BOOTS AND THE CALIPER BORE WITH WATER AND SOAP?
I wouldn't recommend it when working with brake components.
@@screwsnutsandbolts SO, HOW ABOUT CLEANING THEM WITH LACQUER THINNER? THIS WILL DRY FAST ALSO
@@screwsnutsandbolts I AM PLANNING TO CLEAN MY CALIPER PINS AND REPLACE THE BRAKE PADS AS WELL. AND THIS WILL BE MY FIRST TIME TO DO THIS JOB. YOUR VIDEO HAD GIVEN ME TIPS TO DO IT WITH ACCURACY
Hi, I'm not going to recommend anything other than proper brake cleaner, you understand. Good luck changing your brake pads.
@@veepee1741 Why are you yelling?
Should take rubber bung off, then twist bolt thru with lub on it, then take out bolt, replace rubber, then put slide bolt back in place.
You actually don't want to put too much grease on the slide pin or in the bore because too much grease will prevent the slide pin's full travel resulting in brake pads dragging lightly but dragging nonetheless.