Brake Caliper Slider Pin Grease - Which is Best ?
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- Which type of grease is the best for brake caliper slider pins ? (also called slide pins or guide pins). Most greases will work in the short term for slider pin lubrication but, over time, petroleum based greases can swell up or destroy any rubber components. If the rubber dust boots break down, dirt and debris can contaminate the grease and cause the pin to seize up. Some caliper slider pins have rubber sleeves which can swell up and cause the pin to seize in the bore. Other greases are safe with rubber components but do not have a high enough temperature rating. Because the brakes can generate a lot of heat, you need a grease that will remain fluid in extreme heat but will not dry up. In this video I only mention a few of the greases that are available and I know there will be disagreements about which ones are suitable for slider pins. I'm not claiming to be an authority on the subject, but there are certain brake greases available that are specifically designed for use with caliper slider pins, and the general consensus I find is that high temperature silicone-based greases are more suited to the job than petroleum-based ones. If you have any questions about using any particular grease on your brakes, you should contact your local garage or mechanic and confirm it with them. Thanks for watching. Please comment, like and subscribe !.
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Caliper Slide Pin Grease
Lithium Grease
Red Rubber Grease
Silicone Grease
Copper Grease
Silicone Ceramic Grease - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
At last a definitive guide to slider pin lubrication. So many people give the wrong advice regarding the most suitable lube. Thanks for taking the time to film. All the best Pete 👍
You're very welcome, thanks for watching !
1. 0:13 Copper grease ❌
2. 1:24 Silicon grease ✅
3. 2:28 Red rubber grease ❌
4. 3:41 Dielectric grease ✅
5. 4:40 Lithium grease ❌
6. 5:43 Silicon ceramic grease ✅
7. 6:43 Petrolium jelly ❌
8. 7:22 Conclusion 👍
What a nice relaxing video. Love the background noise from the animals lol.
Thanks for watching !
Finally a definitive video on the topic.
We needed it!
Just yesterday I followed your tutorial on the 206 to check the brakes and grease the components. For the sliding pins I used silicone grease. Based on this video, I realize it's a 6/10 solution. Silicone-ceramic grease is a 10/10 solution.
As always, thank you very much. You are a light in the darkness.
Thanks for watching !
Excellent video, simple and straight to the point with no fluff!👍
Thanks for watching !
I’ve never used copper grease on the pins, only silicone . But I have used the copper anti-sieze on all of the bolts and where the wheel and rotor meet. It works great there
Thank you for making this video. I always wondered what to use for grease on calliper pins. The only problem I have. I wish the video had speech in it. Thanks again.
Yesterday before seeing this video I used what I’ve always used anti-seize compound, never seems to last to the next brake job, time to change
The best stuff I have ever used came with a set of pads which I think were powerstop brake pads. That stuff was awesome!!!
Toyota calls for that lithium soap based grease where metal meets rubber. Haven't an idea what that is until I found out through a TSB that Toyota sells exactly the thing: Toyota Rubber Grease. Bought a tube of this pink stuff for myself. Much more expensive than the Permatex green brake lube I use mostly for back of brake pads and drum hardware.
I used syl glide for years until i started having issues with bushings swelling. Switched to the permatex ceramic orange stuff which has been much better
Been using for a while now, Bendix Ceramasil or Bosch Superfit with no issues at all, always have the ole Silcone pate to hand, great video 👍
Thank you !
I am trying out the Bendix ceramasil right now. I used other grease before and they just swollen the rubber and dried up.
Can't wait to see this thing works.
i like this upload i usually just grab the copper grease never had any problems with it, but i do have a load off ceramic silicone grease so i'll use that from now on 😂🎉
Excellent video. I'd heard that silicone paste/grease was the best option but it seems you have narrowed that down even further with the ceramic part.
Thanks for watching !
Thank you
You're welcome
Thank you, nice vidéo, we can understand easily.
Thanks for watching !
Been using Red Rubber grease on Pins. Will change now when it runs out.
Absolutely outstanding video
Thank you very much!
Great video ! You e helped me a lot. Thank you
You're welcome, thanks for watching !
Great detailed video
Thank you!
You have a supply of grease for 3 lives :)
LOL :)
Another great video.
Thank you !
The orange silicone ceramic grease is what I use. I've not had any issues with it.
I knew about it and using them for years. All of them for different applications. What i was missing, is the temperature range of each lubricant. Thanks!
You're welcome !
thanks for sharing bro,
luckily i've only got access to silicon based grease, but cant afford that high quality one,
so at most i just have to repack again sometime to be safe
Thanks for watching !
Puedo usar grasa de cerámica de liquid moly en los pernos guía del caliper de frenos?@@screwsnutsandbolts
Fantastic video.
Thank you very much!
Great video, but which one taste the best?
Thanks, the red rubber grease certainly looks the yummiest lol
LIQUI MOLY Synthetic Lubricant for Brake Pins 5 g (21119) Is this product suitable for brake calipers? I would be happy to help
Thanks!
Thanks for the support Anthony !. I really appreciate it 👍👍
Video idea for you. Place the caliper in the oven at 500F for an hour or so to assess the viscosity of the pin grease. Does it somewhat flow within the bore? Thx.
The missus said no way ! lol
For Japanese cars use Niglube RM or Toyota rubber grease
The ceramic greases are thicker and since I have went to str8 silicon lube I haven't had to warranty a single set of pads for brake squeal
Like an axle grease, it is thicker when cold (room temp) When it heats up under normal use it flows. Just like how axle grease becomes oil like. Your problem was not cleaning out the bores of incompatible greases. This mixture will cause the ceramic grease to break down in about 500 miles. You should be cleaning the old grease out anyway. It's a workmanship issue, not a product issue.
@@williamallen7836puedo usar la pasta cerámica de liquid moly en los pernos guía del caliper de frenos que llevan goma?
What about crc synthetic? It's a red bottle, black grease
Any grease will work when you make changing pin boots occasionally a habit.
This is something people neglect the whole time.
I've used blue high temp grease, ordinary blonde grease, etc, it only went south when i had the rubbers look okay and soon dry and fall off into pieces making the pins rust and caliper not retract causing the brakes need an overhaul, just because i said it's okay to keep the old rubbers.
In my experience, silicone should be avoided for metal to metal contact. Not entirely sure what the science is behind it, but it causes severe galling and seizure.
In contrast to your findings, I've had great results with red rubber grease. I recently replaced two wheel bearings on my car, and while I was in there I decided to check on my brake parts that I last looked at around 43000 miles ago. The red rubber grease was still looking fresh, so I bolted it all back together and all is well :)
What brand of red rubber grease do you use?
thanks
You're welcome !
I've had this conversation with my mechanic friends and they all use copper grease on brake sliders, have serviced their customers cars for many years without issue, likewise i have owned my car for fourteen years, have had the brakes cleaned/serviced by them quite a few times with no discernable wear, they are all in their 40's so were probably using it before some of the more modern lubricants were available.
The main thing is cleaning and re lubing the pins as a maintenance process, especially in the rust belt
I do it annually to keep them moving freely 👍
Is it only me, or does the both cans on the end, Mission Autmotive Dielectric Grease and Permatex look 100% the same even the stamp with the serial number looks identical. One of them produces for the other. Greetings from Germany
Puedo usar la pasta de cerámica de liquid moly en los pernos guía del caliper de frenos que lleva goma?
Thanks.. Had to go out to the garage and check what I use. Permatex Ceramic Extreme
Thanks for watching !
many people say not to use the purple Permatex on slide pins it dries out and sticks it is not silicone based.
Which is better, silicone grease or ceramic grease? I have both.
The ceramic is the better grease, as long as it's actually brake grease.
the best is silicone with ceramic permatex purple ceramic is not good for slide pins it dries out not silicone based
Для направляющих пальцев используют следующие смазки:
Trw pfg 110, febi 31942, TEXTAR Hydra Tec 81001400,
BREMBO B-Quiet (G00075)
I use ATE plastilube.
According to their website that's suitable for caliper slide pins
Non of the above. Sylglide been using it for 30years and no problems.
Syl... Same compound as silicone or the di electric grease that was featured on this video 🤔
I switched over to the bottle of silicone since it can be used for other applications as well
And that bottle will last me years with my fleet of 12 cars👍
I guess I’ll throw out the Vicks Vapo Rub I bought on sale. It was great for my sinuses though. 😢
lol, your brakes might not work but they'll breathe easy...
Can i use top 1 synthetic hi temp grease in caliper pins?
My advice would be to use a high temp silicone grease, ideally one designed for use on caliper slider pins.
All silicone grease is dielectric 😢The correct grease is silicone grease end of
The single biggest mistake is not replacing the pins and boots once either is worn they both fail causing irreversible damage to the bore and ruining the caliper bracket. Once any rust is on a pin sliding surface or in the pin bore it’s junk and not worth reusing. Never had an issue with silicone on pins but I always check them when the wheels come off especially when a new set of brake are over $800 just for parts.
What's the best brake and caliper grease?
For the sliding pins... Silicone grease
@@ricebikepara el perno del caliper de frenos que lleva goma puedo usar la pasta de cerámica de liquid moly?
If Lithium grease is unsuitable why do manufacturers such as Toyota recommend a lithium soap based grease for slider pins in their service manuals?
Copper anti-sieze grease is perfectly inert as far as rubber and plastic is concerned. It has no detrimental effects on brake components whatsoever.
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Thanks !
I use blue color grease
Which one ?
@@screwsnutsandbolts top formula 1 hi-temp grease & toyo brake caliper grease
Is it me or is there no sound with this?
There's an ambient outdoor sound in the background
The only grease to use is the brake grease. Made specifically for the job and able to work in all conditions. Silicone grease does tend to thicken and loose its ability to work as a grease as it ages. Copper grease is not a lubricant it is just an anti seize and should never be used to lubricate anything.
Why wouldn't you just write this up as an article instead of a video so we can read at our own pace?
That which not degradation rubber because demaged rubber is agresive for this metal and degradation rubber not sealing this part. its not be a silicon because silicone greas dry in hot condition
Permatex purple is really good too.
It turns sticky and guey after a short while, I just had to clean out my front and rear caliper slide pins from this grease, currently I am preparing a video to upload my experiences about this type of grease.
do not use it. yes, it works, but only. I used it on pads, thinking they say it's better, I've been using the copper/silver stuff for longest time, purple doesn't not quiet the brakes, it actually corrodes the shims. I switched back to copper. those purple and orange stuff will slide and so on, but they do not help with rust. as for slider pins? sil-glide is the way to go! I got some silicone brake grease, put them on, they killed the rubber at one end of the slider pin, completely swollen it up. went to the dealership, the guy laughed, and gave me some sil glide for free. problem is most people will put those stuff on and forget about it till 3 yrs later, by that time, either it's so badly rusted, they have to change everything, or thinking something else went wrong. I got lucky on slider pin, cuz I was changing something on the brake side, and decide to take a look, then found out the caliper cannot move. the purple stuff, that car I drove only during summer, and it's a sports car, so 1 yr, 2000kms, then rust build ups. most people won't even look. sometime you just have to learn from mistakes.
Permatex makes a purple grease that’s specifically made for pins, even better than the orange stuff.
that is the grease people are saying is not good for slide pins that it dries out and becomes sticky in hot conditions causing the pins to stick
i strongly disagree with your red rubber grease verdict. Red rubber grease is designed for the brake caliper pins and pistons. ive used it for years and never once has it dired out even with heavy braking.
You left the best grease out of your testing 🙄🤣😂🤣
Some background music would have been nice.
I prefer the ambient outdoor sound in the background :)
Copper grease has no use and should be banned from automotive workshops. Period. Don't answer/argue.
Why
i've used it plenty times and had no issues
Anti seize properties. Not as a lube.
Many automotives workshops have never seen or used copper grease. These cowboy workshops should be banned not the grease. :)
As a ships engineer we called it special seizing 😅 compound. - because it never worked
Red rubber wont resist heat
Mineral oil based will affect rubber boots
I have seen some manufacturers calling for lithium soap based grease which can be mineral or synthetic
Best bet is silicone grease cause it is non reactant to most of rubbers
I guess some kind of non mineral high temperature synthetic grease might be good as well.