Everything Wrong With Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Ugh. This thing has gone on long enough. I say we call it after this one. Here are the sins of Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, and there are a lot of them.
Thursday: Animated sins.
Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!
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the fact that we never got to see a battle of undead ships between Salazar's men and Will with the Flying Dutchman is the true travesty here.
I kept low key expecting The Dutchman to appear and a cool fight scene to ensue. I was very disappointed when Will never showed up to kick both Jacks and Salazars asses
@@jack_of_the_cards I'm not sure if Will would kick Jack's ass, because Will isn't evil like Davy Jones.
@@jack_of_the_cards Will would not hurt Jack
@@jack_of_the_cards he could never touch jack let's be real🤦🏽♂️
@@theunspokenone6562 nobody could ever touch Jack and that is exactly the problem
Its funny how they're like "the Black Pearl is the fastest ship ever if we get it back we can outrun Salazar". Then they get on the ship and get caught by Salazar, the British, and half a dozen guys in a rowboat.
That row boat is faster than the pearl! They should of used that!
coolnobodycares excuse me, nothign' is faster than the pearl, savy? :))
Cedric Wyche I
THEY DIDN'T SEE THEM COMING MORON
it's funny how people get recognized off talkin shit bout other people's shit & then someone gets recognized off commenting on shit n the shit trail gets longer
Would've added a million sins for the fact that Jack Sparrow in this film was NOTHING like the witty, smart, funny and complex protagonist we fell in love with as our childhood hero.
I don’t blame Johhny Depp tbh, since it feels like even he didn’t wanna be in this film and was just contractually obligated to.
I hate this movie so much, its so incredible stupid and this in a series where you can return from death.
He didn't really want to be in the movie, to be fair. He was also dealing with the whole Amber Heard situation and was either drunk or high for most of the filming
Yer nah yer I just liked the your comment coz your picture
@@sidneysymonds9609 Hermer Sumpsam
I cannot believe that CinemaSins didn’t mention the part about Will ripping out his heart and the curse was the only thing keeping him alive!
Wow..that's true..if his son break the curse, Will will die.. 😧
well thank u!
Well if the trident can reverse an immortality curse from the devils triangle I'm sure it can reverse wills curse.
@@KrillintheVillain still won't apply. Will was literally, stabbed to death by Davy Jones, not die due to curse. If breaking curse means he's no longer part of Dutchman, that just means he lost his immortality ie *dies.*
Also, as others stated, the Dutchman's job to ferry out dead people at sea was part of sea (their universe) law and not a curse.
So yeah, none of the shenanigans-nonsense-curse in this movie shoulda happened to Dutchman and crew (esp Will) unless they actually went mad neglecting their jobs and become *Davy Jones and co 2.0*
@@norakirayumi I hear you, it's all kind of messy. My take is the trident reverses the curse of the dead man's chest which was a curse bestowed by Jones, however the dutchman's curse fail safe is so to speak is that it must always remain with a captain. So it resurrected Jones soul for the job. That curse is forever bound to Jones soul since he was the one originally tasked with it by calypso herself. They mentioned that in the second movie that the curse of the dead man's chest needed a living heart but if there's no living heart there's no chest or key, meaning the Dutchman can't change captains anymore.
This is basically how I rationalized it. But yes the trident of Poseidon crap really fucked up the lore
You missed a giant sin. In the second movie tia dalma said that she gave him the compass and in the fifth movie Jacks old Captain gave him his compass.
Who’s to say both cannot be true?
@@jakejerrison5181 Because I see how bad Disney made the new Star Wars movies and Its more realistic that they rushed the production and story telling like in the star wars movies and make this giant mistake, but you're idea can be right too.
You his old captain could have given him a normal compass which later through one of Jack's deals with calypso be infused with the power it has
@@gimp1618 Nah, they did Star wars much better than the trash Lucas made called "prequel triligy". However it seems that they can not find propper directors that actually cooperate
Biggest (and stupidest) sin of the whole film.
Jack originally got the compass from Calyspo.
She says this in the second or third movie. Which takes place years before the last one. The last movie tried to change the story.
*Calypso:* "Da compass ya boughta frum me. It cannot lead you to dis?"
@Medal Cat: I don't get your comment, but I like it anyway
Jack got the Pearl from Davy Jones as well...
FOR REAL, this was my biggest gripe with the whole movie.
@Josh The Stormtrooper When directors and writers don't watch their own movies for a reference point.
Salazar: Dead men tell no tales.
...later...
Salazar: I tell you my origin story.
Make sense.
Wouldn't he be considered alive? I mean, he is dead, but he's walking around doing stuff that alive people do.
*Ironic*
The Picky Gamer simple. HeS a WoMaN!
He was lying weren't paying attention?
This makes even less sense when you think about the fact that just one minute before saying "Dead Men tell no tales", he also said "I always leave one man alive to tell the tale". It feels like the writers just wanted to put the title card behind the dialogues but didn't think about a logical way to do it.
There's one sin noone seems to be pointing out:
The Black Pearl is supposed to be the fastest ship in the whole world. And yet, in this movie, Salazar caught up with it, a random British ship caught up with it, and heck, even a bunch of people on a rowboat managed to catch up with it!
The characters' backstories wasn't the only thing they seemed to disregard in this movie ( including the compass', that is)
@Finn Delimata May. I know I'm very late but a comment way before this one is top comment which says exactly this.
@@dannymcfield3729 Was literally just about to say this. I know youtube comments are generally unoriginal and mostly posted by kids, but man do these kind of people piss me off. So starved for attention that they turn to stealing other's thoughts in the hopes that nobody notices, all for a couple of likes to boost their ego.
I just read two comments that pointed this out.
Wow, I haven't returned to this comment in a year, and it seems that I somehow upset some people with it. Like, really?
Sorry if this was already said when I commented it. My comments were probably in a different order, or I didn't read them before doing so, or didn't have time, or something. I genuinely don't remember, or really care. For what it's worth, I generally don't comment for attention, or at all, unless there's something in particular I feel I want to say, but yeah, I agree, repetitive comment sections are annoying
Also, @Kermit of Rivia, I agree, his ship was indeed a Spanish Galleon
I realize there's a joke about not caring about the previous movies, but the 2nd movie explicitly states that Jack got his compass from Tia Dalma (Calypso) and that Davy Jones turned fishy because he wasn't ferrying souls to the afterlife, but this movie says Jack got the compass from some random schmuck and fishiness simply comes with the job.
Not to mention being the Dutchmans captain isnt a curse, its a fundamental part of the ocean
Ikr
I had watched all the movies right before Dead Men Tell No Tales released (this made it easy for me to spot mistakes like this) and I was just so triggered by everything in this movie
Also, don't even get me started on the timeline. Take Karina's age, for example: Jack knew her mother, which makes you think that he met her sometime back in the days when they were buddies with Barbossa. THAT WAS OVER TEN YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST MOVIE, though. Later, Barbossa was cursed, and I don't think you can make babies as a skeleton. She's probably supposed to be around Henry's age, anyway, so that would mean that she was born sometime after the 3rd movie - but that one ended with Barbossa stealing Jack's ship again, so I don't see them hanging out together and chatting about their love life. They go back to being frenemies in the 4th movie, but that would make Karina way too young, and it seems that Barbossa became quite successful after that adventure, so this story makes no sense.
Yea this and the last movie don't seem to care about continuity any more, it's sad cuz I love this series
Exactly! I said this in the movie theater and even got shushed about it! How do they think we didn't noticed any of this???!!
now i have your voice in my head every time i see something wrong or stupid with a movie
yeah, that's basicly a side effect of being a cinema sins fan :/
And the ding
I've had the "Roll credits" bit stuck in my head for at least two years now.
Same
I think that the biggest problem with this movie is the continuity errors. The first three movies were pretty consistent, they followed the same "rules" in universe. I haven't seen the fourth movie in forever, but i know the fifth movie disregards a lot of the rules previously established. The reason that Davy Jones and his crew looked like fish people was because they weren't doing their job of ferrying souls. Once Will becomes captain, the crew no longer look like fish creatures. Will should not have barnacles growing on him, neither should the rest of the crew. Also, when the curse is lifted, Will should die, since his heart was cut out of him and put in a chest. In the second movie (i think) Tia Dalma mentions how she gave Jack the compass, but in this movie it's stated that the compass was given to him by a former captain. Looking back at all the PoTC movies, you can see how Disney has changed. The first three were great, the fourth was shaky but it worked, and the last felt very rushed and forced. Kinda sad
3rd movie&
Also in the past movies Jack gave his compass away to multiple different people and now suddenly if he gives it away now it frees some dead guy
Also, I thought that the flying Dutchman was the natural order and not a curse.
maybe he’s lazy or slacking with the job so barnacles grew on him😅
The best thing this movie did was make stranger tides a good movie.
Big sin you missed:
Posiedon's trident, and artifact that has control over the entire sea, can be split in half with a basic iron sword. I mean, even if it was rusty or decaying, it's still the trident of Poseidon.
BRO YES. When they said they had to break it I was like man good luck with that one, that things probably unbreakable. *Proceeds to break it with ease* well fuck me then
I'm convinced that Johnny Depp was actually drunk the whole movie.
You're right. He was actually drunk the whole movie. They had to drag him out of his trailer constantly.
shadowflower93
I believe it. Sure.
Can you really blame him though?
He's just tired of the Jack Sparrow role I think
#shadowflower93: What?!?
My idea on how to fix the movie:
Have Calypso be responsible for hiding Poseidon's trident so that she could dominate the seas.
Syrena, the mermaid from the last movie, possibly with Phillip, would be searching it so that the mermaids could regain Poseidon's favour (which was actually planned originally).
Will would be in this movie much more. The minute Salazar escapes, he is hunting for him with the Dutchman, because it's literally his job to deal with the dead on the sea. Also, the Dutchman and Will would have their look from the end of At World's End because Will was not neglecting his duty like Davy Jones.
Jack could very well start off at rock bottom but it should really be told to the audience that he has fallen far. And his personal goal is to once again be the Jack Sparrow of the past.
Carina can be replaced with Angelica from the last movie. She could have gotten off the island by contacting a trade ship and wishes to reclaim the Queen Anne's Revenge, which would lead her to Barbossa and bring those two into the bigger picture. She could also find Jack by using the Voodoo puppet she got at the end of Stranger Tides.
Henry could stay the same but it would have been nice to have him be Will III. like originally intended.
Essentially, they will all end up at the Trident and the battle with Salazar ends with Will and the Dutchman sending them to the afterlife. As soon as they reclaim the trident, Poseidon rewards Will by breaking the Dutchman's curse because after all, Poseidon at full power is much stronger than Calypso, ending Calypso's rule. Jack would sail off with the Pearl, Angelica would get back the Queen Anne's Revenge after Barbossa's death, Syrena and the mermaids are in Poseidon's favour again, and Will and his son return to Elizabeth, who makes her cameo appearance.
The post-credit scene will see a final reunion of Jack, Will and Elizabeth to signify that the franchise came to a nice close.
I wrote a fix for this movie as well, but I really like yours too. Well written, makes sense, brings everything together. Good job!
Actually sounds great.
Drakorn how the movie should’ve happened when incorporating all the others so as to not seem as if this is a new universe all together, well done!
Cool story but “Dutchman” is the name of the ship. The Flying Dutchman. Davy Jones was the original captain whom Will Turner replaced.
Unless by “Dutchman” you mean the crew as a whole then I apologize for misunderstanding you.
"What did he use to tie it together? To stand it up?"
Human hair. From his back.
😂
Sea turtle mate
The last time he gave the compass to someone, it wasn't a *betrayal* of the compass. Trading the compass for a beer, on the other hand, was a betrayal.
i think the idea was, since he didnt ask anything for a return and its part of his plan anyway, it didnt count, i mean if someone decided to rat you out for a beer when you have been with them through thick and thin, isnt that betrayal
@@fatchungi2732 Thank you for restating my post.
I think it was counted as a betrayal because he sold compass for the beer. All the other times the compass was either taken from him by force or given for a time to someone else to find jack later and thus return it.
@@OrkosUA Thank you for restating my post as well...
So?
Out of all the stuff that I hated in this movie, I'd have to say that Will Turner and the Flying Dutchman having sea growths on them was the most irritating. Will's been doing his job ferrying souls from this world to the afterlife, and it was established in the third movie that the reason why Davy Jones and the Dutchman looked like fish people was as a punishment for not doing their job. As well, when Will took over as the captain of the Dutchman, all the crew lost their fish people looks and actually began to look like real people again. Finally, Will shouldn't have been released from the Dutchman at the end of the movie because being on board it isn't a curse, it's a responsibility charged to him by Calypso. A curse is something like the Aztec gold in the first movie.
Plus: fulfilling that duty is the only thing keeping him alive and able to run around at all. Mind that part of that commitment was to cut out your heart and put it in a box. He'd have been in Davy Jones' locker two movies ago if it wasn't for the Dutchman needing a Captain. If that "curse" is lifted his life should be over.
The only thing I can think of how this could work is that Will actually wasn't cursed but that the locker of souls that die on sea is the curse. When the locker-curse is broken Wills commitment dies as there is no duty to fulfill anymore. He's then basically "honorably discharged", hopefully including the part where he gets his heart retransplanted...
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about all that heart nonsense. How the hell is that supposed to work? Did he grow another heart? Did his heart magic out of Elizabeth's box and reappear in his chest? Does he not have a heart? Baffles my mind for sure.
This series relies far too much on magic and behind the scenes bullshit, and the second you try to apply ANY logic to it, the whole thing falls apart.
At least in the first three movies, they kept you entertained enough that you didn't try searching for what little logic there was. In the most recent two, they completely fail at being fun to watch.
But will doesnt look like fish... He has normal sea barnacles growing because he lives under the sea, like bottom of the ship has all kinds sof plants growing
Oh. So Barbossa died again. That didn't happen before.
This time there's no Calypso to take him back
Barbossa*
Barbosa: ah sh*t here we go again
r/im14andthisiswhoooosh
@@imperialguardsman5726 that's not a woosh u moron 😂😂😂 and dont try woosh me for correcting u bc that's not one either 😂😂😂
The only sin you needed to acknowledge was “No Keira Knightly”
And no pintell nor ragetti
She is in the movie.
@@andarubimasakti1332 they didn't want to be in it. I wish that Will, Elizabeth, Pintell or ragetti were in it, but what are you supposed to do force them?
It’s been almost two years since this got posted and I just noticed something. In the video there’s a sin given for “Pete Best” playing jacks uncle. This is an error. Paul McCartney was playing him. Not Pete Best.
@@HumblePaysan Yea for 10 seconds
"safe sex" joke is funnier than the whole movie
Everything is funnier than the whole movie at this point
Another sin: jack is shown to have received the compass from a crew member after beating Captain Salazar, however in Dead Man’s Chest, Tia Dalma says “what happened to the compass I gave you”.
Reece Taylor let's just ignore that, "that" being this movie, and let's forget On Stranger Tides. The first three movies make a fine trilogy, even if DMC can be a little dumb at times and AWE is way too long.
You forgot to add 'Ding'
Don't expect sins that make sense on this channel anymore. Cinema Sins is more interested in making stupid joke sins, which include quips, and things he doesn't personally like, even if it's not an actual sin. Let's not forget prioritizing putting petty stupid sins over actual sins that have valid points.
maybe jack bought it from tia for his captain, not knowing what it does and later on to hold of it?
@@squatch1565 i honestly really want that flashback scene to be canon
*Why didn't you address the fact that Jack got his compass from that pirate instead of Tia Dalma?!?*
Jorge Fire thank you! I’m glad somebody else noticed!
thank you, I've been bothered by that for ages
you would be good at cinemasins
George Niceguy *Dream Job*
Because no one remembers that.
the fact that they expected us to believe that the pirate king stays on land to wait for her cursed husband every 10 years and also willingly wears a corset is ridiculous
“I hate the Sparrow. Die Sparrow”
Nice line
and to think they hired Javier fucking Bardem to say that line. Fuck.
@@thevideocommenter3061 honestly, if there’s one thing this movie did very well is that they made Javier Bardem look like he’s never acted before. His lines were so trash.
@@henryparkinson983 Having only seen him in this and in James Bond, I'm convinced he's one of the worst professional actors I've ever seen. I acknowledge this is an opinion based on a limited data set, but his performance in this movie was so bad it rivaled Depp's.
@@JosephDavies you need to watch no country for old men, he is absolutely phenomenal in it and is really a true showcase of his talent.
@@henryparkinson983 Thanks, that's a good recommendation. I should definitely check it out! Somehow it escaped my viewing when it was new and I've been too busy to catch it since.
The best thing about this movie is how it's called "Salazar's Revenge" here where i live.
So you have the scene where Salazar says "Dead men tell no tales!", then it cuts to "PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN: SALAZAR'S REVENGE"
It was so bad, i love it
Edit: I live in Singapore.
Germany?
Krux999 And Brazil
im sure thats the name for it in the UK too, so im guessing the EU title
Same in Finland too.
yup, same here
Who else knew as soon as Salazar bit that apple Jeremy was gonna sin the fuck out of it? It's like the movie was screaming "JEREMY, HOW BOUT A SIN??!!".
They really ought to make a movie where the good guy eats apples for once. He's health-conscious.
By the way, why is Jeremy censoring all his swear words but uses them so damn often?
Also, other question-where did this guy get an apple from? They had high-tech refridgerators which kept apples fresh after apple season?
Cinema Sins you forgot to mention that Will's heart was cut out by Bootstrap Bill and not by the curse so he should have died at the very mkment the trident was destroyed
István Huffnáger I thought he did die
István Huffnáger The Cutting of His heart was Technically part of the Curse of the Dutchman.
@@bamb1etta_basterb1ne it wasnt a requirement
@@quima5844 wait i commented on this video?
@@bamb1etta_basterb1ne obviously mate
Actually The Flying dutchman collects those who die at sea
Henry just had to drown himself in the open sea
Will easily could've told him that in 1 day
Geez! You guys missed the biggest sin of them all! How did Jack even get the compass in the first place? According to this film, it was a gift to him as a youth during the flashback scene. BUT in Dead Man's Chest it is clearly stated that Jack got the compass from Tia Dalma/Calypso! They could not even keep track of their own history.
Imylover I also spotted this
He got it in his youth, lost it(as is jacks way) and calypso returned it to him at some point. Best I can come up with
Captain Marvelous that seems plausible
Captain Marve - yeah. Witches and mythical folk seem drawn to the damn thing - maybe it's cursed, but not in Dead Won't Men Tell Tales sort of way.
Yes!!! I was thinking the same.
Could have sworn being the Dutchmen was a job not a curse and you would only turn into a fish monster if you stopped doing your job, now that the curse is "broken" who is going to ferry the dead?
Nobody probably, as entrapping souls in a torturous afterlife-locker sounds pretty curse-like to me... guess there is nowhere to ferry the dead anymore. Still confused about how Will is still standing though. By breaking all curses they pretty much unplugged his life support. He cut out his heart for the job, remember? No magical curse means you need that thing to survive...
Hyperion thank you. No we needed to give will a fairy tale ending. Recreate the whole romance with his son. I do love how no one in the movie brought it up.
Davey Jones wasn't supposed to ferry souls to the locker, he was supposed to ferry them to the normal afterlife.
I guess the curse is just about the barnacle infestation and the poor holidays...the rest is just the job, which is why Will had those nightmares at the end of the movie. It is pretty much like every job...just that breaking a trident won't break the curses of your average job
I thought his curse was the he couldn't set foot on land but once every 10 years. He still has the Dutchman job
Another sin: POTC gotten the same treatment as Star Wars. Ruined an amazing franchise with stupid and terribly written movies
The 4th one was ok, but the 5th was a disaster
And new characters
It reminded me of rise of skywalker so bad
We shall never speak of The Last Jedi again.
And to think Johnny Depp’s Jack Sparrow was an Oscar nominated role and now it’s a Razzie nominated role
It's very sad
I love all the sarcastic remarks you make, because of you I pay closer attention to movies I watch, and even say "roll credits".
Keep on being amazing.
This comment is too sappy - *(DING)*
PowWow Animations my boyfriend and I watch movies and just sit back like "expository speech, ding!!"
My brother annoys me with it every time I watch a movie
Merritt Animation I'm that brother lol
Same bro! Sometimes I make the people around me angry because I either go, "ding" or say, "roll credits" on some scenes when I'm watching a movie
Same dude, when there's narration in a movie, I go "Narration" every time
'For some reason sauron dies again in this movie'
I died ;D
Sparkk just like sauron did... again
That one really got me!
Sparkk read this as he said it and just cracked up. Was literally about to ask when he said that too
You aren't Sauron.
Sparkk same
I'd actually forgotten I'd seen this film it was so forgettable.
The villain design was pretty cool.
No it was so bad compared to the rest that it's now forever engraved into my mind
@@emiscat2533 how was it bad? The wavy hair to mimic his watery death was sick
@@thepickygamer4450 The actor is great
"The trident can break every curse of the sea"
Me: I dont know immortality, and the ability to never drown seems more like a gift in my book
Junglehunter677. True but really bad skin conditions is probably what got to them
Lol
@@jupiter9823 that's because they served on the dutchman, the whole part of the crew, part of the ship thing. Really there wasnt anything saying they couldnt leave and hide from jones.
But you could never go to land where the pretty ladies are. Also, corals growing on you.
@@mii_kay4514 that's only if you don't do the job, and to be fair, yeah you can't set foot on land, but you can go to shipwreck cove which is basically Tortuga lite
I can't believe you didn't sin the fact that the f*cking trident of posiden was so easily broken by a sword! A f*cking sword can this all-powerful artifact of a god!?!?! How the f*ck does that make sense!?!?!
Jessie the book nerd you would be good at cinemasins
Jessie the book nerd How does any of the things you've seen in these movies make sense?
Jessie the book nerd yes
Jessie the book nerd I know, right! That part of the movie made me so angry!
Not as bad as Star Wars apparently having a 'space-gas' shortage for the first time in ten thousand plus years.
The Curse of the Dead Stranger's Chest at Word's End!!
I died!!
William Muriuki same😂
Can`t wait to see that movie!
I liked how they nailed the actor for Henry Turner. He is exactly how a son from Will and Elizabeth would looks like. Also the actor playing Jack Sparrow in the flashback. I really thought he was a CGI-de-aged Johnny Depp. Will Turner is no longer bound to the Flying Dutchman and Jack Sparrow is rid of his nemesis only to have his most feared one coming back. "I finally get back the Pearl" "It is time to pay your 100 years debt, Captain Jack Sparrow".
Love how the "Roll Credits" portion actually comes before even the opening title
maybe cause there wasn’t as many logos?
You missed the biggest obvious plothole. When they steal the safe and find it empty, Jack sneakily puts a coin in his shirt. Then in the next scene he's going to the bar for rum and has no money, so gives away the compass. But he has that coin still. The whole movie shouldn't have happened.
Actually that's wrong, the Captain of the Dutchman is bound by it through a curse for eternity only able to step on land once every 10 years.
Jack kept a GOLD piece but the bar tender asked for silver
+Andrea avaloss Yes, because there's no way the bartender would have accepted a coin that was more valuable than the one he'd asked for...
Agreed 👍
I saw the movie a few months ago so sorry when I'm wrong, but - wasn't Jack drinking alcohol BEFORE he went to that bar? And he went to it to drink more? When I am right, Jack had pay the alcohol he was drinking with that one coin and then went to the bar 'cause he hadn't more to drink.
I guess we're lucky Mr. Turner's curse got conveniently broken while he was ONTOP of the water with the Flying Dutchman. Because if he was beneath it I think he would have had the same problem as the other undead crew who suddenly drowned when they re-incorporated.
HaploidCell now there’s just a question of who’s going to do his job now. Since unlike the movie claimed it wasn’t a curse, who’s going to ferry the dead. Will also should have looked normal because he did his job.
Theres always the chance that since he went so save his son , The moment he did was the moment he got those barnacles or whatever those are, since the movies never really explained how fast they started getting those when they stopped doing the Dutchman's job.
Movie makers: how bad should we make this movie? The director: yes
Only saw the movie today, and the biggest sin I felt with it:
Where's the Flying Dutchman throughout all this?
These are dead men, men who died at sea. The Flying Dutchman has literally one job. Nothing stops Turner from going after these guys, there are *plenty* of scenes where he could have shown up and saved this mess of a film. He could have served as exposition, tied the whole thing together. He could have provided an actual counter to the overpowered Pac-man boat. He could even have given Barbossa a better ending.
Barbossa was the best thing in this film and they had to ruin it by killing him off so predictably. It's like How to Train Dragon 2 all over again: you know who's going to die just going off the ham-fisted dialogues.
Edit: just checked the comments, glad to see I'm not alone in this. Like, really not alone... dang, everybody's thinkin' this, aren't they?
these *endless* comments do be on your side tho
IMO if they just included the damn Flying Dutchman, this movie would be pretty fun. I think it has the same energy as the first one. The ending would've been more satisfying too if Will was involved more.
Damn, I never thought about that.
Wait, so how is Will alive with the Posideon destroyed? Sure, the curse is gone but it doesn't change the fact his heart is in a BOX
That my friend is a plot hole
No no no, have you ever played Dragons Dogma? When the curse is broken the heart teleports back into their chest.
Also is Poseidon still alive because if he is then he is probably pissed
or he might been underwater while becoming human... thus drowning
Maybe that's what took him so long
"Welcome to your curse, here are a few things you need to know before you get started." LOL
The rules are instantly placed into your head. ^^
“Did he go to the Weinstein school of catching things?” Killed me
All I feel is sadness rewatching this knowing just how much awful shit was going on in Johnny’s life at the time. He must’ve been so miserable but still felt some sense of duty to finish the movie the best he could
Actually, when Mythbusters tested the 'bullets in water' myth, they found that *modern* bullets almost universally shattered upon impact with the water, while older, more archaic musket balls (like the ones that would be fired in the movie) held together, and would have remained dangerous (though perhaps not lethal) at least a few feet under the surface.
Terrachova muzzle velocity on old muskets is also much slower, adding to the bullets not shattering as easily point.
Terrachova A bullet won't break from water since water is less dense than any solid, apart from dirt and sand. It will stop moving at a lethal speed, however. Older projectiles used by flintlock muskets were more like lead balls, and were very often not lethal in air.
Prins van Oranje uhhh... no. I'm guessing you're not very familiar with firearms, because bullets definitely can shatter when hitting water. It depends on the type, angle and the velocity of the projectile, but the surface tension and dramatic change in velocity over a very short time can cause them to shatter. That's just physics. Also, bullets fired from musket balls were and are still *incredibly* lethal. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?
That "Welcome to your curse" sentence is amazing :D
I know allot of people wouldn't get it nowadays I guess, but it reminded me of The curse of Monkey Island...
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace chill out with the spam
How do you have 2 top comments wtf
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace yep here is my version welcome to rest of your pathetic curse that can be broken by breaking the trident but jack sparo some how fits in all this
England: fighting pirates and Jack sparrow
Meanwhile in new York: ANGELICAAAAAA ELIZAAAAA AND PEGGY
2:19 Henry *could* not tell Jack and be fine.
But.
Salazar said please, I mean c'mon.
Wait, no sin for the guillotine? In an English colony? Something that wasn't invented until the 1780s?
You expect CS to know history LUL.
acetraker1988 They do their research some times, though not this time lol
But this isn't history. It's fiction. Realistically, it can do as it wishes
GalvakzaMusic
Literally hasn't stopped CS ever.
and this could be after the 1780s no?it's definetely in the 1700's or early 1800's
"Welcome to your curse, Here are a few things you need to know before you get started." Lmfao.
It's probably a chapter in the 'handbook for the recently deceased'.
Like in Beetlejuice!
Avellania I was just about to comment that!! Lmao
*rolls 1950's black and white film*
10:39 No, but he does look like a younger captain Jack Sparrow, which is the point of the scene. Not to look like a younger Johnny Depp.
Yup
7:18 actually, if you payed close attention to when Jack gave away his compass in that bar, you could see a rat in a pile on which the bartender put the compass, the same rat that the witch had in her place and which she threw in the cauldron. That is how she got that compass
I love how the trident isn't a trident
Depends on how far down you still count prongs as real prongs. I'd say It was more of a bident with an extra spike, but really, who am I to argue with Poseidon?
Elizabeth had Jacks compass in the third movie yet that didn't strike Salazar's curse?
We're expected to believe that Elizabeth just chilled in a big dress and island for 10 years?
Why the hell was Will cursed even though Elizabeth remained loyal? And where the heck was his dad, he should have been on the boat!
goldgem2 which boat should Will have been on?
absolutelyaestheticallysmitten Not Will--Will's dad. Bootstrap Bill
The compass thing was clearly explained in the movie. It shows you what you want/desire the most but if you betray it (throw it or trade it) it will release your worst nightmare. Now how did salazaar even know about that? or How was salazaar Jacks' nightmare when he didnt even remember him i dont know
That's another thing, Tia Dalma gave Jack the compass so how does Salazar know about it? This movie rewrites its origins!
Okay . I'm watching this in 2020 . Although you released this video two years ago . You comment about the early 2020s is spot on .2:44 The hell ?
uhh what witches are we talking about?
One of the biggest problems I have with this whole thing is the "she's a witch" plot when Britain stopped prosecuting witchcraft in the 1730s and this movie supposedly takes place in 1751.
Gore Verbinski gave us 3 epic films, incredible slew of lovable characters and some of the most memorable sequences and dialogues in the history of cinema. And let's not forget what an amazing soundtrack Hans Zimmer churned up for this series. Then Verbinski decided he has done a good job, and let's leave it at that, so that people can come back to this trilogy over and over again, and he left all happy and jolly...
Meanwhile at Disney Headquarters: Nope, that's not how it ends...
I am mostly offended by the fact, that in one cosmos both Calypso and Poseidon can be gods of the sea....this seems pretty stupid...
TheTrueLeafless
In some mythologies exist multiple deities in charge of the same thing; in Greek there are a few : Poseidon, Nereus, some Titans and all of their offspring, Calypso included, even though she's more of a sea nymph than a goddess.
Posiden wasn't always the god of the sea. Before him, there was the sea Titan.
Well, he's nowhere to be found at all, even near his Trident, which has supposedly just been sitting there for quite some time. Maybe the rule over the seas passed from him to Calypso due to circumstances in a far more interesting movie than the one we got to see.
The sea is big, it can handle more than one god.
"What are you?"
*"I'm Batman.".*
The very last scene of 5 was pretty good out of context. Hearing Will and Elizabeth's theme after all that time felt very nostalgic.
I enjoyed the POTC movies (first being my favorite), but Dead Men Tell No Tells was the worse. I think they spent more time and focus on the CGI to win audiences over then the plot. I hated the two new young characters, Jack Sparrow was dull, the undead villians have been done twice before, and the holes and conflicts in the story couldn't be overlooked to accept the storyline. They only thing that kept my attention was Geoffrey Rush/Barbossa, but even his character was tampered so much that he wasn't the same. Instead of the lame new characters being the focus, they should've stuck with Sparrow and Barbossa teaming up (along with their humorous banter) against Salazar. The fans enjoyed Barbossa and Sparrow's "frienemies" relationship and the writers could've taken it to the next level.
@Johnny Dong So why write about that :P
@Johnny Dong English please :P
@@rjofusetsudzin8011 tl dr = too long dont read
Same! It’s kind of disappointing that they changed so many of the characters’ personalities. I’m honestly disappointed with the way it turned out...😔
I think so too
Will and Elizabeth were the best thing in this movie and they only appeared for a few minutes. Jack was not even Jack Sparrow, Carina was more annoying than anything, Henry was cute but nothing special and I really disliked how they misstreated Barbosda because he was so badass before- how dare they mess with my favorite character!
Kikiricki Kira zzzzzx
The movie was shit none of the characters were interesting
I will be honest: When I saw Salazar and his crew I constantly thought "And now Will and his crew comes. Any minute now. ... Just one more scene".
I mean it would have fitted so well. A ghost crew killing tons of people vs the ferryman of the souls (in this universe) and his crew. Neither would have (probably) been able to kill one another but at the very least they could have easily delayed them... both sides being unkillable and all.
Exactly what I thought. Also since we know that Will is down under the sea anyway he would know that the sea split right? So he would have gone there anyway. Ut could have been such an epic battle but instead is was rather boring and I was just excited to see the reuinion.
On top of that imagine the possible reactions. As an example: Salazar confronts, without knowing who they are, the crew of the Flying Dutchman and , because said crew is up for some shit and giggles, mows them down. Just to get counter attacked by the 'recently deceased' and THEN realizing that in front of him is pretty much the collector of souls. And he is coming for him since he is tired of supernatural seaman and their shit.
Instead the focus is on one-dimensional (Henry and Carina) and butchered (Jack) characters.
“This is either the late 1700s or early 2020s”
Me:👁👄👁
Here's a greater sin for you. HOW exactly did Will's son know where the Dutchman would be BEFORE he jumped into the ocean in the first place? I thought the curse stipulated that they guide souls into the land of the dead for 10 years and THEN they could come home. How did he know his father would recognize him and bring the ship to the surface? And why WOULD it be such a problem if the Dutchman's crew discovered this child on the ship? Is Will Turner NOT the Dutchman's Captain? Wouldn't a single order from him cause the crew to stand down? Is his father not also part of the crew as well?
well Davy Jones said "The Crew are not bound to me...They are bound to the Duchmann". Jones made the crew fear him. Maybe Will couldn't do so as he is not known to be a threat
"Weinstein School of Catching Things"
Oh my God :D 👏
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace came to the comments jus to say this. U beat me to it 😂
Kevin Spacey graduated with honors
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Thank you.
Coraline Parmentier - Pianist for Peace I immediately paused the video to comment on that one lol.
Nicolas Johnson haha me too
Johnny Depp in an interview for Dead Man's Chest spoke about how much time and effort went into collecting his various ornaments, including that reindeer shin bone hanging from his hair, and spoke about how he imagines the adventures Jack had that led to its acquisition. And Tia Dalma gave him the compass in the second movie. Both of those have been retconned to a single point in his life for outsmarting one guy! It's like the Han Solo origins movie all over again
I don’t know if you forgot, but in Pirates of the Caribbean 2, Tia Dalma points out that she gave Jack the compass, whilst here, they state that it was the captain of the ship who gave it to Jack
Anyone else feel like Johnny Depp wasn't great in this? He just seemed tired to me and wasn't giving Jack the same energy as used to. But I suppose that could be due to doing 5 of these movies and that Depp is starting to age.
I read somewhere that he was going through a bitter divorce at the time, was drinking and always late.
Aiuralion maybe he was just 'in character'.
I agree. He's clearly actually drunk the whole time, was really difficult on set and really is just going through the motions now. But in all fairness, the writers clearly don't grasp the energy and wit that Jack had previously, so it may not be entirely Depp's fault.
I must say he wasn’t is best in this one but Depp is like a fine bottle of wine , he gets better with age
Okay, fair enough, I won't put all the blame on Depp and to be honest, I completely forgot that the drama and issues that happened and that they would have happened around the time this film was made.
The only reason I was excited for this movie was because I was sure they'd get the Black Pearl back somehow... Except... They did it the absolute lamest way imaginable. I feel like choking the screenwriter and the director whenever I think about that scene. I really liked that ship.
Gnome Reginam that ship 🚢 got destroyed in a hurricane
Hey wait a minute.
Shouldn’t Will be officially dead now? He’s not cursed anymore but he had his heart cutout. So he’s living without a heart?
The cursed put his heart back in his chest
Plot hole
@@jayden3781 which chest? Lol
“The destruction of the Trident at the end of the film broke all the curses of the sea, which meant that Will Turner is no longer bound to the Flying Dutchman. However, at the end of AWE, his heart was cut out and put into the Dead Man's Chest. Therefore, when the curse broke, he should have dropped dead. The same applies to Salazar and his crew, as it is shown they all died during the explosion of their ship. Evidently, the Trident doesn't merely break the curse, but also restores the cursed to their original form. This can also explain the appearance of Davy Jones, whose heart was not only cut out, but stabbed.”
From IMDB
“What are these tally marks for”
I don’t know,maybe days left until the next time will can come onto land
Do you remember the first movie? Great story, witty characters, funny jokes, great set pieces, great action and great acting? All deduced from a freaking Disney Ride. A total surprise. Yeah, that was awesome.
For f***s sake, where did this lead to...
Yeah, Jack kinda turned into a dick with the newer movies.
He WAS a dick, but here he is a stupid one.
Depp must just be really tired of playing Jack or he's tired of acting all together
*JaCc SpaRO’.... (smokers laugh) JaK-de sPArrOU*
Everybody that saw the movie remembers this scene.
Neo2266 That's pretty much what me and my friend were saying the following 3 days after watching this movie :p
Exactly XD
Wrong-I remember almost nothing about this movie. Could be my dementia acting up, or maybe it was just a boring movie
YAG SBARRO
unbelievably hilarious my good sir
9:05 In Carina's next line she says he's holding her "stern," which is the back part of a ship. He had to grab her butt to stop her from falling, which actually makes perfect sense.
Also did anyone else notice that Jack got the compass from the captain in this movie, yet the first time we see Tia Dalma she says she gave it to him?
Hey you forgot the biggest sin of all they killed Hector Barbossa again seriously it was worth 10 sins.
He's dead..., for now. He fell in the water and landed on a piece of the Trident and it granted him eternal life. You'll see it all in the next film: Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Dead Man's Chest at World's End on Stranger Tides Tell No Tales revenge...
LOL
Agreed, Barbossa was always my favorite character in these movies and with him dead I have no reason to see any more of them.
Actor wanted out of the role so
Probably they were going to make it so Jack goes to the afterlife with Carina to bring back Barbossa since Barbossa went to Davy Jones' locker to get Jack and Jack wanted to repay him for that. (Barbossa only went to get Jack's token and not Jack himself most likely but it was a package deal.)
This episode of Sins is written really well. Incredibly witty
I know right? There were a lot of good sins on this one and some top notch jokes.
I can't wait for Pirates of the Caribbean: The Tale of the Curse of the Dead Strange Man's Chest at No World's End
I like how they spend the first half of the movie saying if u have the trident u can rule the seas, but all the trident does is break curses when itself it broken
In the second movie Tia Dalma said that she gave Jack the compass, soooooooo
Disney likes ruining movie series by not following the story
she actually said Jack bought the cmpass from her, still a big plot mistake and no ones gonna convince me it was lost in the process or any other stupid explaination. clearly screewriters do not know their own movies and its very annoying they make such cheap errors in a really expensive production. all they care now about is make money
I said the exact same
@Otacon464 I really hope that's not the case because the number of story twists in that theory is overly excessive and unnecessary. It's like a child trying to cover up his lie by throwing in tons of detailed stories to make it sound convincing.
No offense. I just hope they don't force the series out of the frying pan into the fire.
@Otacon464 Your point is valid, but I don't appreciate how they try to link everything to make the story look cool but so pretentious.
Story A: Tia Dalma gave Jack Sparrow the compass because he wittedly bartered it from her.
Story B: Tia Dalma gave the compass to Jack's former *pirate* captain, and when he was lost, it was passed to young Jack. As Jack went down with the Pearl as ordered sunk by Cutler Beckett *before* he became a pirate, he lost the compass in the process. After he made a deal with Davy Jones to resurface the Pearl in exchange for his servitude aboard the Dutchman, Tia Dalma, Calypso bound in her human form with her *magic restricted* since the First Court, happened to possess the compass lost at sea and conveniently give it back to Jack when he came to barter for it.
No mention that TWENTY YEARS pass between the 3rd movie and the 5th and Jack and everyone else looks the same age but Will's son.
Raynie Daze must’ve been those cursed genes
Their cursed by Barbosa, or should they have replace the cast with kids to grow up seeking to break the curses (Leaving the viewers to figure out who these new kids are), that is what I did not like about Logan.
2:42 Man, hearing that in late 2020 is sure something.
Everything wrong with POTC Dead Men Tell No Tales: Everything.
exactly
Sin 1: Dead men can’t tell tales
Swoosh Mcsploosh "This movie exists."
"Dead Men tell no tales" *begins telling a tale about his curse and why he hates Jack*
Swoosh Mcsploosh that's why they tell no tales cause dead men tell no tales.
Good thing the Will's son was spared then otherwise he couldn't have told any tale
Underrated comment
Does anyone else realize that in the flashback jack gets the compass from the old captain, but then in pirates two tia dalma says to him "the compass you bartered from me, it cannot lead you to this?"? whoever wrote this movie did a very poor job. There are so many instances where it contradicts with the past movies and there are so many things that should have been written out. This movie was terrible.
Perhaps he lost it and got it back from Tia?
Perhaps he bartered it from Tia and then gave it to his captain as tribute?
Yeah how did they miss these? Seriously Disney is ruining good series by doing stupid shit like this
I'm so happy I was not the only one that noticed that
Yes THANK YOU. I was able to tolerate the terrible movie, until that flashback part when jack gets his compass. Did the writers even SEE the other movies? Also, even if it DIDNT contradict the previous movies, it’s still so stupid. Betraying the compass? He’s given up his compass several times throughout the other movies. Ugh. Just lazy writing.
"So the water is now an issue for you, but the half a head thing...That's still cool?
About died ; )
You know you've watched to many of these when you can guess what he's going to use to overvoice the clips on the end plates =D
18:02 why the hell is Elizabeth walking up in fine clothing of any sort? At the end of the third movie she was the pirate king, and nothing shown in the after-credits scene suggested she waa giving that up, or that she was still interested in frilly dresses. Hell, even if she somehow retired or gave her throne up, she's still on the same island, yet here she comes looking like the first movie all over again. That pisses me off so much, I'm adding five more sins to Jeremy's total
BrentD5000 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Have No Continuity
There was an end credit scene where she was on a dress with their son waiting for Will on top of the hill...so you are mistaken.
Amani L. Lee So the mistake is from that end scene dude, why was she with her 9 years old kid, but not been the pirate king?
Amani L. Lee that is exactly the scene I'm talking about. Care to try again?
BrentD5000 misread as there was no scene.
I have a large issue with this movie. If all curses have been lifted then shouldn't Will be dead, in the third film his heart was cut out and with the curse no longer there he has no heart for real so therefore he should have died immediately after the trident was broken
I'm head-canoning that his heart was transported back into his chest
Regards
Salazar crew would also be dead if so. I think it resets them and allows a mortal life again.
celestialchik yes
Jack Fisher he would have been dead in movie 3
"Why did he ever need to tell Jack about this encounter?"
Because Salazar said "please", obviously.
"This is either the 1700s, or the early 2020s, I can't tell."
This is too accurate now
The biggest sin for me was that Will was alive only because of that curse. He got killed so they used him to kill Jones so he got cursed and he was kept alive. Wouldnt canceling the curse also mean that he would just drop dead?
Holy shit, I hadn't even considered that. That's an excellent point. Also did his heart suddenly teleport from the chest back into his body?
BRO THIS IS WHAT IM SAYIN!!!
His heart is virtually magial anyway (as being alive outside his body) so it makes sense for it to teleport back to his body when the curse is broken.
His heart wasn't virtually magically taken away. It was cut out by his father while the crew of the dutchman held the chest open
Undriel Grenger
No, no it doesn't make one lick of sense.
Sparrow seems drunk throughout and he can't even make his own escape like he always does, outsmarting people with his talks and tricks.
Sparrow gave up his compass to Will before he threw him overboard to Beckett/Jones and to Gibbs to find the Pearl. How come things didnt start shaking then or Salazar escape? Only now when he give it up for a drink?
After fighting Davy Jones and Blackbeard, I find it hard to believe that the fearless Barbossa seems to be afraid of Salazar? What.
Barbossa thinks finding the trident is impossible but he was the one that lead them into Davy Jones Locker saying "you need to be lost to find the place that cannot be found". Irony.
Salazar wrecking havoc across the sea and what is the Flying Dutchman been up to? Also why is Will looking a bit like Jones, didn't he do his job? And why is he afraid of others finding out his son is on board. He's the fucking captain!
Gibbs and Sparrow was talking about some rituals in the previous film to resize the Pearl but now all it takes is a Blackbeard sword? And why doesn't Barbossa use the sword against Salazar?
There's a lot of things that doesn't add up. I try to like this one I really do but I cant. This the one and only worse film of the series.
It makes sense that Barbosa Is afraid of Salazar. At least with the other he knew how to deal with them, not to mention they were pirates like him, but Salazar was the nightmare of every pirate, in fact it's stated at one time he almost killed them all for good, and now he was also a ghost! Of course Barbossa was shitting his pants.
What also bothers me is that it was like the answer to EVERY PROBLEM they ever had.
Break the curse, they gathered 500 pieces during over a decade instead of just looking for the trident.
Davy Jones, well just find the trident and you get rid of him...
Btw nice to see that they freed Calypso to take back the seas from the Navy only to tame it 20 years later.
And I wonder... if your immortal thanks to the fountain... does that count as one of the magical thing that is gone ?
And it's not even like it was hard. You just had to read the stars... people have done that for thousands of years ! And the dude who wrote the diary even went there since he picked up a cristal from the island...
To me this was full of BS. I spent a bad moment at the theater. Like really bad.
Because for the past 5 years Disney doesn't care about the plot points or lore of a universe, they just employ writers to create cheaply mass produced plot points which they think can sell with a strong woman, useful male sidekick and an incompetent comic relief. They just make up new lore without a regard for previously established lore, and they do the same with the characters. The relationship between Barbossa and Jack was one of the best parts of the hit and miss fourth movie, and the third movie while starting poorly and began the trend of complicated plots and new, questionable lore points, the movie had a very well choreographed second half and brilliant fight scenes and satisfying end for Cutler Beckett. When I watched the third after watching the second I thought it was poor, but after watching the fifth, I realise how good it still was.
Not to mention the continuity errors from 4 to 5. Gibbs has the ships from blackbeard in the end of the 4th one and says they'll make a fleet but then in the 5th one barbosa apparently has a fleet which would assume he had those shit left on the Queen Ann. Also, to get a fleet he must've risen those ships but when he throws the pearl in the water he looks surprised as if wasn't gonna work even though he's at that point already risen many ships doing the same thing.
Also what happened to the Queen Ann? And what of blackbeards sword? One of the most powerful artifacts at sea?
@@Flynnick Actually, 882 pieces but I'm not proving you wrong. Disney really just wanted some stupid plot as a filler.
Love how he says “skip” and I get an ad immediately after
Here's a sin:
At the end of the third movie Will's jeart was cut out. When the curse was broken, why didn't Will just instantly die because of not having his full cardiovascular system within his body? Or are we to believe that with the curse's last magic it just sort of yada yada'd its way back to Will like the third chapter boss of Paper Mario?
"The Weinstein school of catching things"
Did you watch the video too?
😂
Lol
Which movie does that refer to?
@amwhatever lol