as a kenyan who lived in capetown for a few years, i must say i understand Black South Africans , the White Afrikaneers have enriched themselves with all the minerals that their forefathers stole from them, they are now wealthy, then Black South Africans spent years fighting Apartheid, then and then Foreigners came in in millions taking their jobs, please Black South AFricans have gone through a lot give them a break!!!!
i used to work with khosas in big hotels like souther sun in capetown, i used to go and visit them in the townships like khyletsha, phillip, nyanga, my chomis i miss them they were such fun
I fail to understand why don't stay to their country to improve thir country they are here to fight to stay to our country let them go to shows that they are hard worker in their country and improve their economy we are lazy in our country let them go to be their hard worker in their country what makes them run from their country those people
They said all africsn countries will join hands and deal with SA for hating them,now every country is really tired of Nigerians it shows they are alone
Black South Africans were never given opportunities, our demogracy is still young but that doesn't mean we must tolerate bad doings from foreigners, we have been living with foreigners for decades without any problems untill they do us bad, we don't hate foreigners, ZA blacks also build South Africa to what it is and must e given opportunity to grow more in South Africa
South Africans own residential land. We don't own industrial nd commercial land. So this thing of south African doesn't own land. Hey papa I own the land where I am staying I have a title deed
2:24 One of the best replies to what the Nigerian said is that, We may not own ALL of the Perfect South Africa,,, But we benefit enough from it to be envied by those who own their economies but suffering horribly!!! To such an extent that it's almost MEANINGLESS to even brag about such ownership..... South Africans are not stupid... We understand how power works and what the current reality in the world is.... There are battles that are not worth fighting until you've gathered enough strength and skill to win them...a very big mistake that most African countries made and are still making. The WHITE MAN runs the world at this moment, and Standing up to challenge him without what it takes is only foolish!!! China understood this... And it operated under the white man's shadow for however long it had to, until it could copy or replicate his systems of power.... And that's what made China successful.... South Africa Is doing the same thing.... The average South African today is far much better than the average African of 30 years back... And truth be told, we are more advanced in many ways than most African countries.... We now understand how the systems of power works, far much better than the average African who believes in radical approaches only... I could say a lot... But our leaders in south Africa know exactly what they are doing
First democratically elected president of South Africa, the late Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela, understood this very well and practically, hence, he opted for peace and encouraged education and studying, so that citizens could gain an understanding of the hierarchical power systems of the world like he already did. He set up a good model, however, I'm saddened that some of our fellow citizens not being able to comprehend this and under-valuing and even throw away free education which has been put in place...simply because they're not willing to reciprocate this free education with disciplined hard work....I guess this may be all to fulfill the vernacular saying that states that "bohlale bo tjwa lebading", but does one really need to experience pain firsthand to learn, or can't one just observe pain that some others have gone through in order to learn?
@@nmosoa5368 I love this.... And indeed.... South Africa's only crime is LEARNING from the mistakes of other African countries.... They really wanted us to be as miscalative as they were and still are to some extent.... Hai mina I'm proud of South Africa ❤️❤️yes the leadership is not perfect... And there are many things that can still be abhored,,,, but we on some Good sh*t🔥❤️Especially when you also look at what we were about to achieve as a country before these foreign nationals were used against us.... I clearly remember a season where salaries and working conditions kept on getting better and better... Achieved through well organised strikes, boycotts and other forms of activism.... We had these white colonial powers in a very good corner... A perfect model of what an African should become or enjoy atleast WAS ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED.... and then they came, ruined that good thing we had going on,,, calling us lazy and spoiled, without realizing what all of that was.... 💔💔Africans have a lot to learn from South Africa 🤞🏿if anything at all, they should be copying us... Learning from us...instead of calling us slaves... Because from where I stand, they are the ones who are still psychologically enslaved.... Eating what a South African threw away....
Nigeria's economy is not suffering horribly. Nigeria actually have the largest economy in Africa in terms of GDP. You seems very upset with what south Africa has become in Africa. You guys can change your ways before it is too late.
@@mrzagamaje9434 What ways to change? Nothing we will change here. You all must understand being unique is OK. Why you all want SA to operate like your countries? Allow SA to do things differently in their own country. We never had these problems in SA until you all flocked our country. If your countries are 100% black owned well good for you 👏👏. So, Which one is better? Blacks being oppressed by their own black leaders? Or blacks oppressed by Whites? since most unlazy Africans are exploited by Whites in SA 😂😂 FYI SAns are not oppressed and are not scared to address their black leaders/Whites in SA unlike you all scared to speak up or stand up against your own black leaders. Instead opted to runaway but you are here claiming doing better because everything is black owned 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yah neh.
@@mrzagamaje9434 Nigeria is not the largest economy in Africa infact according to IMF projections it is the fourth biggest economy in Africa behind South Africa, Egypt and Algeria.
This week Nigerians were striking for bread and the President of Nigeria is going to Britain's for vacation for two weeks, Pres. Ramaphosa will never go to Europe for two weeks or else he will find a new president in power
My brother what are they doing with owning the banks I don’t see the different, please do research go and check the giant Nigeria 🇳🇬 they collect less taxes than South Africa 🇿🇦
SA is only 30 years from 200 years of apertheid slowly we are taking our land back , and we cannot take banks cause they were not started by us , lets buy them and atart our own like Motsepes
South Africa's political dynamics and our apartheid past is responsible for our dispossession hence we are not owning much. Let's look at Nigeria's historical background, if they had our historical background they would be in the same position of ownership as we are. Nigeria has been independent for 64 years but do they have to show for their independence?
Mr Naija let me tell you something before sixteen fifty two Zulu of the Zulu nation was here and Phalo of the Xhosa nation was here in South Africa Shaka,Mosheosheo,Hintsa, and others are just children during the eighteen century
The land part, if u refering to farm lands yeah sure... But we own homes and the land around that house(with a title deed that proves that) ... Be specific about the land part but from the economic stand point yes I agree the whites got us👍...
@@TheProudSouthAfrican Yeah I have been watching what's being said on line and I must say Africans in Africa and diaspora are miss informed about south Africa very miss informed it's laughable 🤦... And they always want to characterize south Africans with slams and yes those slams are there ,but those are most black south Africans moving from their rural areas where there's actual big houses that they built , I mean very nice brick/ concrete houses to cities in search of jobs some because they can't afford rent they start those slams near cities/mines/factories 🤷... If u really wanted to see how Blacks in south Africa actually live don't focus too much at the cities focus on their villages and You'll be surprised 😂😂 like 4 real... Maybe we south Africa should film our villages and post them to shut some mouths up 🚶 I mean go to Soweto, Johannesburg west ,ask Blacks whether they own they houses and the land around their homes 😂🤦 ... Go to Mokopane mahwelereng/ moshate ask them 🌚 Go to Soshanguve! Go to Johannesburg South, Drieziek/Orange Farm ask them! Go to Durban emlazi ask the zulus there🤷... There are many more places ....You people don't know what u talking about
@@thabomanenje4592 because they can't Farm they don't have those skills u see, and they come here acting as if they are better than south Africans! But they run away from their government and their so-called LAND! They can do better than this.
@@leonardsibisi1143 black people also own land in the villages..the only thing is that we r not good at farming..that's why they live that land seek for work at urban places
if you know your father is a foreigner there is nothing wrong with that but talk nosense in the entire world there is no country that has been abodone by their gov
Sometimes, it is not about winning is to gain and learn the facts 💯 but for me iI istill don't need nigerian they hate black South Africa but I learn a lot in this debate and my business is booming 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Coward "giants" who can't stay home where they own land,but chooses to leave their rich land and scatter the whole world being nuisances and scammers. Why are they mass deported globally? You're scattered around the world searching for greener pastures yet you are rich giants of Africa. Make it make sense
The problem is you Dagada, in the resent election you allowed your self to be bought by white monopoly capital instead of joining other progressive political parties so that we could nationalize those mines n those banks you talking about, u decided to split the votes so that the status quo remain
Is it okay to insult people whose views you do not share ? Let us be kind to one another anger, hate, pride ,disrespect doesn't enhance good communication and at times yields undesirable outcomes like resentment etc .Ref the Kingdom you mentioned they are no secret that doesn't mean people are ignorant in my view they just mentioned a certain section of history. Personally am sad that it appears that real animosity is building and becoming not only wide spread but concrete it would be good if we could all start looking for ways to de escalate .I don't see anyone benefiting from these sometimes extremely hostile and vicious interactions.I wish I knew how to wave a magic wand and make it stop Maybe if we all try and back off a bit and give each other spaces we might avoid more damages .Extremely sad scenario
@@raymondzulu5291 I’m not insulting anyone, when you want to comment if a person is not sure please do some research 🔬 so that you can be sure When I grew up the elders uses to say no harrying in South Africa 🇿🇦
Apologies if I misunderstood you the word "drunk " didn't come across as polite .However I have no beef with you at all am not upset at all .I trust you shall forgive me and we move on peacefully. Thanks for the courtesy of response 👍
@@VincenteChijioke We love living with them, we benefit a lot in SA as SAfricans.. You dont have masters but ur suffering in Nigeria..hence you all jappa yr so called land to go annoy others in their countries..Yr land dsnt help you at all .Everything you say you own there in Nigeria is useless..it dsnt benefit any of Nigerians.
Highly doubtful that he is South African .However irrespective of where he is from we must be gracious and just laugh and overlook a lot things and seek to promote civil , mutually respectful dialogue. Hate anger pride can hardly help.I might be wrong but I thought the issues that cause conflict are illegal immigration, crime, cultural differences ( ref how we communicate and do life )scarcity of resources and in some cases deep seated distrust among other factors based on Tribalism etc.I am of a view that crime is a human issue across colour , culture, creed ,country or continent unfortunately some tend to be more pronounced and reputable hence some Nationalities have marred the image of their countries even globally.
Mare which land do u want us to have because u know very well. EC has vast and vast land . KZN has rural land vast land NW has villages with land . Mpumalanga has rural villages with land which land do you want .
As a Ghanaian 🇬🇭 I will always support south Africans 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💯💯 BAFGHANA 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇬🇭🇬🇭
Likewise ❤❤❤South Africans GENUINELY love Ghanaians
as a kenyan who lived in capetown for a few years, i must say i understand Black South Africans , the White Afrikaneers have enriched themselves with all the minerals that their forefathers stole from them, they are now wealthy, then Black South Africans spent years fighting Apartheid, then and then Foreigners came in in millions taking their jobs, please Black South AFricans have gone through a lot give them a break!!!!
God Bless you for being such a wonderful soul.. I salute you and Proudly South African 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Thank you for seeing the truth for what it is. We love you,sister❤
i used to work with khosas in big hotels like souther sun in capetown, i used to go and visit them in the townships like khyletsha, phillip, nyanga, my chomis i miss them they were such fun
you are welcome i kmiss my khosa chomis in capetown,
We appreciate your honesty 😊
Mr manager as always yr teaching yr fellow Nigerians manners thank you❤
His self reliance unfortunately it's not working in Zimbabwe, my question is why always in South Africa people, Why
I fail to understand why don't stay to their country to improve thir country they are here to fight to stay to our country let them go to shows that they are hard worker in their country and improve their economy we are lazy in our country let them go to be their hard worker in their country what makes them run from their country those people
They said all africsn countries will join hands and deal with SA for hating them,now every country is really tired of Nigerians it shows they are alone
That's what Nigerians don't realise
They're not wanted everywhere,the whole world is tired of them. The scammers of Africa.
I love this video 100%,Mr Manager u a doing God's work
Black South Africans were never given opportunities, our demogracy is still young but that doesn't mean we must tolerate bad doings from foreigners, we have been living with foreigners for decades without any problems untill they do us bad, we don't hate foreigners, ZA blacks also build South Africa to what it is and must e given opportunity to grow more in South Africa
South Africans own residential land. We don't own industrial nd commercial land. So this thing of south African doesn't own land. Hey papa I own the land where I am staying I have a title deed
We have a black brother in Limpopo province who owns a farmland for potatoes and is a national supply of SA McDonald's restaurants
The one talking about poor South Africans is hiding behind shades and bucket hat. 😂😂😂Scared someone will deal with him
We are very happy in South Africa with white people we love them a lot and we love each ather
2:24 One of the best replies to what the Nigerian said is that, We may not own ALL of the Perfect South Africa,,, But we benefit enough from it to be envied by those who own their economies but suffering horribly!!! To such an extent that it's almost MEANINGLESS to even brag about such ownership..... South Africans are not stupid... We understand how power works and what the current reality in the world is.... There are battles that are not worth fighting until you've gathered enough strength and skill to win them...a very big mistake that most African countries made and are still making. The WHITE MAN runs the world at this moment, and Standing up to challenge him without what it takes is only foolish!!! China understood this... And it operated under the white man's shadow for however long it had to, until it could copy or replicate his systems of power.... And that's what made China successful.... South Africa Is doing the same thing.... The average South African today is far much better than the average African of 30 years back... And truth be told, we are more advanced in many ways than most African countries.... We now understand how the systems of power works, far much better than the average African who believes in radical approaches only... I could say a lot... But our leaders in south Africa know exactly what they are doing
First democratically elected president of South Africa, the late Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela, understood this very well and practically, hence, he opted for peace and encouraged education and studying, so that citizens could gain an understanding of the hierarchical power systems of the world like he already did. He set up a good model, however, I'm saddened that some of our fellow citizens not being able to comprehend this and under-valuing and even throw away free education which has been put in place...simply because they're not willing to reciprocate this free education with disciplined hard work....I guess this may be all to fulfill the vernacular saying that states that "bohlale bo tjwa lebading", but does one really need to experience pain firsthand to learn, or can't one just observe pain that some others have gone through in order to learn?
@@nmosoa5368 I love this.... And indeed.... South Africa's only crime is LEARNING from the mistakes of other African countries.... They really wanted us to be as miscalative as they were and still are to some extent.... Hai mina I'm proud of South Africa ❤️❤️yes the leadership is not perfect... And there are many things that can still be abhored,,,, but we on some Good sh*t🔥❤️Especially when you also look at what we were about to achieve as a country before these foreign nationals were used against us.... I clearly remember a season where salaries and working conditions kept on getting better and better... Achieved through well organised strikes, boycotts and other forms of activism.... We had these white colonial powers in a very good corner... A perfect model of what an African should become or enjoy atleast WAS ABOUT TO BE COMPLETED.... and then they came, ruined that good thing we had going on,,, calling us lazy and spoiled, without realizing what all of that was.... 💔💔Africans have a lot to learn from South Africa 🤞🏿if anything at all, they should be copying us... Learning from us...instead of calling us slaves... Because from where I stand, they are the ones who are still psychologically enslaved.... Eating what a South African threw away....
Nigeria's economy is not suffering horribly. Nigeria actually have the largest economy in Africa in terms of GDP. You seems very upset with what south Africa has become in Africa. You guys can change your ways before it is too late.
@@mrzagamaje9434 What ways to change? Nothing we will change here. You all must understand being unique is OK. Why you all want SA to operate like your countries? Allow SA to do things differently in their own country. We never had these problems in SA until you all flocked our country. If your countries are 100% black owned well good for you 👏👏. So, Which one is better? Blacks being oppressed by their own black leaders? Or blacks oppressed by Whites? since most unlazy Africans are exploited by Whites in SA 😂😂 FYI SAns are not oppressed and are not scared to address their black leaders/Whites in SA unlike you all scared to speak up or stand up against your own black leaders. Instead opted to runaway but you are here claiming doing better because everything is black owned 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yah neh.
@@mrzagamaje9434 Nigeria is not the largest economy in Africa infact according to IMF projections it is the fourth biggest economy in Africa behind South Africa, Egypt and Algeria.
This week Nigerians were striking for bread and the President of Nigeria is going to Britain's for vacation for two weeks,
Pres. Ramaphosa will never go to Europe for two weeks or else he will find a new president in power
My brother what are they doing with owning the banks I don’t see the different, please do research go and check the giant Nigeria 🇳🇬 they collect less taxes than South Africa 🇿🇦
SA is only 30 years from 200 years of apertheid slowly we are taking our land back , and we cannot take banks cause they were not started by us , lets buy them and atart our own like Motsepes
Nigeria themselves are not united .let them solve their tribalism
South Africa's political dynamics and our apartheid past is responsible for our dispossession hence we are not owning much. Let's look at Nigeria's historical background, if they had our historical background they would be in the same position of ownership as we are. Nigeria has been independent for 64 years but do they have to show for their independence?
if we are united we must let millions of foreigners to our country .everyone must remain his or her country .come to visit
You must see how the giants drown in the Mediterranean trying to cause into Italy to go stand at intersections begging.
That debate was based on the truth, a good debate builds
They won't change their character cause they're arrogant.
Nigeria is giant of JAPA indeed.....🇿🇦✊🏾
What they want in south africa if they are that rich
Bro do you know the different between illegal and legal
Speaking without proper understanding, lack of economic understanding, lack of patriotism is another challenge
🤣🤣🤣I'm always here for the ghanaian voice note I won't lie shame his talking facts but funny at the same time😂😂😂
Mr Naija let me tell you something before sixteen fifty two Zulu of the Zulu nation was here and Phalo of the Xhosa nation was here in South Africa Shaka,Mosheosheo,Hintsa, and others are just children during the eighteen century
The land part, if u refering to farm lands yeah sure... But we own homes and the land around that house(with a title deed that proves that) ... Be specific about the land part but from the economic stand point yes I agree the whites got us👍...
Say it louder!!!
They say they owns land what are they doing with their land nothing, why can’t they go home and farm their land.
@@TheProudSouthAfrican Yeah I have been watching what's being said on line and I must say Africans in Africa and diaspora are miss informed about south Africa very miss informed it's laughable 🤦... And they always want to characterize south Africans with slams and yes those slams are there ,but those are most black south Africans moving from their rural areas where there's actual big houses that they built , I mean very nice brick/ concrete houses to cities in search of jobs some because they can't afford rent they start those slams near cities/mines/factories 🤷...
If u really wanted to see how Blacks in south Africa actually live don't focus too much at the cities focus on their villages and You'll be surprised 😂😂 like 4 real... Maybe we south Africa should film our villages and post them to shut some mouths up 🚶
I mean go to Soweto, Johannesburg west ,ask Blacks whether they own they houses and the land around their homes 😂🤦 ... Go to Mokopane mahwelereng/ moshate ask them 🌚 Go to Soshanguve! Go to Johannesburg South, Drieziek/Orange Farm ask them! Go to Durban emlazi ask the zulus there🤷... There are many more places ....You people don't know what u talking about
@@thabomanenje4592 because they can't Farm they don't have those skills u see, and they come here acting as if they are better than south Africans! But they run away from their government and their so-called LAND! They can do better than this.
@@leonardsibisi1143 black people also own land in the villages..the only thing is that we r not good at farming..that's why they live that land seek for work at urban places
if you know your father is a foreigner there is nothing wrong with that but talk nosense in the entire world there is no country that has been abodone by their gov
UNDERSTAND THE GEOPOLITIC IN SOUTHERN AFRICA FIRST,SOUTHERN AFRICAN COUNTRIES ARE MORE THAN UNITED(SADC COOLUNTRIES)THUS WHAT MATTERS FOR US.
Sometimes, it is not about winning is to gain and learn the facts 💯 but for me iI istill don't need nigerian they hate black South Africa but I learn a lot in this debate and my business is booming 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I own mine
Nigerians we re giants of Africa period
@@ChrisAbeki-c7h suffering giants of Africa..You all dont know how to improve yr lives in Nigeria..useless
Coward "giants" who can't stay home where they own land,but chooses to leave their rich land and scatter the whole world being nuisances and scammers. Why are they mass deported globally? You're scattered around the world searching for greener pastures yet you are rich giants of Africa. Make it make sense
Heyi u can't change fools mind especially when he is mentally ill and is a lier and arrogant heartless evil cursed it's a shame
The problem is you Dagada, in the resent election you allowed your self to be bought by white monopoly capital instead of joining other progressive political parties so that we could nationalize those mines n those banks you talking about, u decided to split the votes so that the status quo remain
You look poor yourself
You who are talking about Venda,Tsonga,Zulu you are drunk you don’t know what you are talking about in which year ,do you know maphungubye?
Is it okay to insult people whose views you do not share ? Let us be kind to one another anger, hate, pride ,disrespect doesn't enhance good communication and at times yields undesirable outcomes like resentment etc .Ref the Kingdom you mentioned they are no secret that doesn't mean people are ignorant in my view they just mentioned a certain section of history. Personally am sad that it appears that real animosity is building and becoming not only wide spread but concrete it would be good if we could all start looking for ways to de escalate .I don't see anyone benefiting from these sometimes extremely hostile and vicious interactions.I wish I knew how to wave a magic wand and make it stop Maybe if we all try and back off a bit and give each other spaces we might avoid more damages .Extremely sad scenario
@@raymondzulu5291 I’m not insulting anyone, when you want to comment if a person is not sure please do some research 🔬 so that you can be sure When I grew up the elders uses to say no harrying in South Africa 🇿🇦
Apologies if I misunderstood you the word "drunk " didn't come across as polite .However I have no beef with you at all am not upset at all .I trust you shall forgive me and we move on peacefully. Thanks for the courtesy of response 👍
@@raymondzulu5291 Thanks 🙏 bro 😎 enjoy your weekend 👍
Good man peace ✌ same to you 🙏
Mfmm
No problem you can never liberate from your masters
@@VincenteChijioke We love living with them, we benefit a lot in SA as SAfricans.. You dont have masters but ur suffering in Nigeria..hence you all jappa yr so called land to go annoy others in their countries..Yr land dsnt help you at all .Everything you say you own there in Nigeria is useless..it dsnt benefit any of Nigerians.
@@VincenteChijioke We benefit from those masters ..what r u benefiting from TINIBU poverty
Yet the so called "giants" run away from their rich land to come and share basic resources our masters allocate to their slaves. Make it make sense🤔🙄
South African man called Nigeria gante😅
Sorry, that brother is not a south african.
But me, as a south african, agree 100% with him...
Highly doubtful that he is South African .However irrespective of where he is from we must be gracious and just laugh and overlook a lot things and seek to promote civil , mutually respectful dialogue. Hate anger pride can hardly help.I might be wrong but I thought the issues that cause conflict are illegal immigration, crime, cultural differences ( ref how we communicate and do life )scarcity of resources and in some cases deep seated distrust among other factors based on Tribalism etc.I am of a view that crime is a human issue across colour , culture, creed ,country or continent unfortunately some tend to be more pronounced and reputable hence some Nationalities have marred the image of their countries even globally.
He's a lovely Ghanian who sees the truth for what it is.
Mare which land do u want us to have because u know very well. EC has vast and vast land . KZN has rural land vast land NW has villages with land . Mpumalanga has rural villages with land which land do you want .