Is Duck Hunt Good or Just Weird?

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  • People often forget about Duck Hunt in Smash Ultimate's competitive scene. Whether it be for his far and few results, lack of player representation, or just the sheer amount of high and top tiers you could be selecting instead. But, that hasn't stopped players like Sekkai Doggo from taking one of Ultimate's quirkiest characters and running away with a first place finish at a SWT Platinum Event. Today, we analyze Duck Hunt and Sekkai Doggo's Top 8 bracket in order to answer the question: Are they good or just... weird?
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  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Ngl Duck Hunt is hype and fascinating to watch

    • @Psicokass
      @Psicokass 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont know what "ngl" means but i agree with the later part!

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Psicokass not gonna lie

    • @spoogeeee
      @spoogeeee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ngl that's cap

    • @jah.morant
      @jah.morant 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s fun to play, but all my friends hate when I play duck hunt because of my playstyle. It ultimately makes the atmosphere much more fun

    • @jah.morant
      @jah.morant ปีที่แล้ว

      @Silly Ducking Goose ong

  • @thepredhulkchronicles5934
    @thepredhulkchronicles5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    What I notice about Sekai Doggo is that he always gets absolutely steamrolled first game and then adapts and completely dominates from therein.

  • @amphicyon4359
    @amphicyon4359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Love this breakdown for a more rare character. Hope this can continue going forward with Smash Ultimate

  • @germanpogostick
    @germanpogostick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    as a duck hunt main these were some amazing sets to watch, it's great to get these little guys in the spotlight every couple years

  • @kylesantos5536
    @kylesantos5536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    WE’VE BEEN BLESSED BY ANOTHER VIDEO UNDER 24 HRS! All hail PGstats

  • @solarscreams2447
    @solarscreams2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Thanks for covering the obscure PGstats. Even a nerd like me that watches sets daily wasn’t going to see this one

  • @Amaling
    @Amaling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Idk how good Duck Hunt is relative to others in the ultimate cast, but Can is easily one of the best moves in the entire game. It literally does it all

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly, DHD does not have much else.

    • @blackberry4322
      @blackberry4322 ปีที่แล้ว

      isn't can the only thing with dunk hunt?

    • @StrawHatAura
      @StrawHatAura 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's so good about it? I can send it back at you

    • @Jackington208
      @Jackington208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StrawHatAura it's amazing for zoning, and applying pressure. If they try to hit it back at you, just press B lol. Look at the game with Bigduckhuntfan(BDHF) vs. Sparg0, Duck Hunt is barely used that Sparg0 didn't know what to do against Can. Resulting in Sparg0 getting 2 stocked twice and losing to BDHF

    • @StrawHatAura
      @StrawHatAura 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jackington208 Sparg0 became a bit of a choke artist. Much like Cosmos, but I'm starting to think that's just a pattern with people playing broken swordies. Duck Hunt can very easily have Can exploited, that's why it's not regarded as a great overall move because it can fuck you over in multiple ways. This notion that hard characters must be good is dumb. A character can be difficult and still not that rewarding, as is the case with most bottom tiers. Duck Hunt is ass, and the proof's in the pudding. Maybe I'm uninformed, but I've never heard anything about a Duck Hunt winning evo or anything

  • @worldsboss
    @worldsboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Really like this channel. Thanks for the well-produced video!
    Duck Hunt was always a character that I wanted to see buffs for (he arguably needed them pretty badly due to power creep elsewhere in the roster), but sadly it never got anything meaningful ☹️

    • @nathanlevesque7812
      @nathanlevesque7812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His dair makes me sad. It's so much work and risk just to go for it and then it hits like a wet noodle.

    • @worldsboss
      @worldsboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanlevesque7812 Yeah… the second hitbox is actually good, but it never quite seems to connect from the first.

  • @NolenJacobson
    @NolenJacobson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    imo Duck Hunt preys on people respecting their zoning too much. Rushing them down is always the answer even if you play a zoner yourself. In pretty much every matchup DH has the worse hitboxes and mobility and they're going to be in tough if you know their setups even half as well as they so.

    • @NateHicks
      @NateHicks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      extremely true. i don't see many people talk about this but something as simple as falco lazer can shut down duck hunt's zone easily. i used to think he had potential to be really good but he really lacks consistent early kill power. you always need to have the can in a favourable position or else your neutral is already lost. sometimes i look at a character like pac-man and just wonder what duck hunt can do better than him.

    • @sekaidoggo7610
      @sekaidoggo7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Duck Hunt has a super good mobility wym. He also has one of the best frame 6 grabs in terms of range and utility, a super disjointed up air, and an absurd conditioner like the can.

    • @NolenJacobson
      @NolenJacobson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sekaidoggo7610 What I mean is that DH has a bottom 20 initial dash, a bad SH FF time, and a middling air acceleration and these are imo the three most important movement stats.
      As for bad hitboxes the problem with a lot of DH's kit is the the duck has a hurt box. Moves like ftilt, dtilt, fair, and bair get outspaced because of this. Duck Hunt's head sticking out past his nair, up smash oos not extending all the way to the ground, and DH's smash attacks in general being a bit inconsistent/subject to SDI also contribute to my opinion.

    • @thepredhulkchronicles5934
      @thepredhulkchronicles5934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sekaidoggo7610 Wait a second you're literally sekai doggo

    • @sekaidoggo7610
      @sekaidoggo7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thepredhulkchronicles5934 hello

  • @willow1601
    @willow1601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Played my first and only ever Ultimate tournament before Covid and fought a SoCal dunk hunt monster. I mean apparently they were a monster because after I won with mii swordfighter the other players at the tournament were mad because the duck hunt would weed out a lot of their competition. I was definitely not better than them, mii swordfighter's tornado just destroys all of duck hunt's projectiles on contact.

  • @sweatybabypowderhands843
    @sweatybabypowderhands843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:47 This sentence is cursed 😂
    L4st knew exactly what he was doing when he read these lines in such a serious way

  • @craftyplayz8150
    @craftyplayz8150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve never seen duckhunt’s smash attack animations and damn he looks terrified.

  • @antant6217
    @antant6217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i think it says a lot that raito's performances have dropped. sephiroth and aegis feel like the two matchups that really gatekeep the character, steve too
    i think he is still undervalued though

  • @clearandsweet
    @clearandsweet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just wanna say I appreciate how quality this content is.

  • @wolfinsheepsclothing842
    @wolfinsheepsclothing842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throughout this entire video, I just love how Sekai Doggo would get demolished in the first round, but then adapt quickly and win the set.

  • @tree2992
    @tree2992 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love these analysis videos. They provide insight, unlike the tournament recaps that just regurgitate set counts.

  • @mek80010
    @mek80010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This channel is GOATed for details like these @2:07 & @10:38 ...and the mirroring placement of these puns, openner and finisher 🤌🏽

    • @ryankrichbaum8877
      @ryankrichbaum8877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PGStats gives us a lot of freedom with the scripts to have fun on stuff like this. The script just had those lines in parentheses so I decided to turn my back to my mic and yell those lines to sound like I was in another room 😂

  • @winstonmcabee9428
    @winstonmcabee9428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    New pgstats vid! Love to see it

  • @Moss_Dude
    @Moss_Dude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll never understand how to play duck hunt, and I don't think he's very good, but he's ALWAYS terrified me.

  • @HistoricalFanatics
    @HistoricalFanatics ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this dog tbh, it looks goofy and fun to play

  • @mr.gamewatch6165
    @mr.gamewatch6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Duck Hunt when they cause you to loose a stock: 😆 🤭
    Duck Hunt when they cause you to loose a stock and Duck Hunt is teamed up with Sora: *GAWRSH*

  • @plabcentral630
    @plabcentral630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love duck hunt. He’s one of my side characters and nobody expects him.

  • @calliclover5789
    @calliclover5789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Duck Hunt is the sauciest zoner in Smash history.

    • @ringss_
      @ringss_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think he's also one of the fairest. He has get-off-me tools, sure, but he still really struggles up close and can stuggle to make a reversal when trapped. He get punished for not keeping his foe away, which is what we don't see on many other zoners

    • @SchnookieC
      @SchnookieC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ringss_ He's hype to watch cause he lacks the cringe safety options they give other zoners like Snake

    • @alexpotts6520
      @alexpotts6520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe Pac-Man with his insane Galaga combos?

    • @ringss_
      @ringss_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SchnookieC Exactly!

  • @rashodmasters4299
    @rashodmasters4299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I main duck hunt because of how variable his projectiles are.
    At least 1/4th of the stocks I get are from people being too focused on the projectiles during rushdown

  • @matthiashopkins7502
    @matthiashopkins7502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so much doggone personality in these videos

  • @finalmix4375
    @finalmix4375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i suggest you to check out Andre from Italy, he is a really great Duck Hunt Player

  • @rayminishi689
    @rayminishi689 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how Duck King's music is playing in the background.
    Clever choice

  • @chess_poems
    @chess_poems 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    L4ST confirmed next narrator of How it's Made

  • @averypatrick5279
    @averypatrick5279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly I wish Duck Hunt was more fun to play to me, I love when fighting games let me play as literally just a dog.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      May I suggest JoJo HftF or All-Star Battle?

  • @ReeeMonke
    @ReeeMonke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t care if it’s good or weird, I love him. He’s so cute, and he’s cool

  • @quadfatheriii7976
    @quadfatheriii7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you can beat minecart with can, it just takes an extra ping (hit steve in the minecart not the minecart himself), I am very sure as of right now duck hunt beats steve

    • @zaneafk4559
      @zaneafk4559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve beaten Steffen two times and have gotten close to beating DDog

  • @serpentmaster1323
    @serpentmaster1323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That diagram at 12:11 is fascinating. I love it just because it shows how small the slice of smash ultimate that I know well is, and consequently how large the broader commun is. yes I expected palu wolf and peach to be high, and The placements of fox and lucina make sense as well. But I did not at all expect inkling, pichu or megaman to be as high as they are. It just shows how many ultimate events there are around the country and around the world that I don’t follow, or even know the existence of, and it shows how much top Top NA players or simply just names I know like ESAM, stick in my mind that I expect their characters to be higher in usage than they are. It’s also a reminder of just how few people play less popular characters that I make a point to follow, like basemage, jejajeja, and Skyjay.

    •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The video does not go further than 11 and a half minutes.

  • @theelectricant98
    @theelectricant98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video!

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regardless, I'm looking forward to more people discovering this underrated character, obnoxious as he may get sometimes.

  • @ashx8772
    @ashx8772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a duck hunt main , you can actually rush down Steve . The only matchup he straight up loses hard is snake . If you can run while moving can Steve gets rushed down hard fully charged long f smash destroys him through blocks while can prevents jump

    • @bluprintdhd4569
      @bluprintdhd4569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duck Hunt beats snake wtf do you mean

    • @ashx8772
      @ashx8772 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluprintdhd4569 explain ?

    • @tobiasterry7194
      @tobiasterry7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant speak to steve. But duck hunt absolutely doesnt hard lose to snake, id argue even but if you wanted to say slight disadvantage for DH then i could understand that. There are plenty of match ups duck hunt struggles more with than snake, being min min, zelda, joker, and mega man. There might be more but those are the ones yhat immediately jump to mind

  • @Luigikid
    @Luigikid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SkWiirrel our doggo boiiii! ❤️🙌

  • @ViRrOorR
    @ViRrOorR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me proud to be a dhunt main

  • @hellyhanson3266
    @hellyhanson3266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    PGSTATS IS AMAZING

  • @danielcaballero6396
    @danielcaballero6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta Love Duckhunt

  • @PepsiPepe
    @PepsiPepe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    PogStats back with another vid

  • @kriskenard
    @kriskenard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Duck Hunt is good because they are a fun pair to play with. Case closed.

  • @shortesnameofalltime
    @shortesnameofalltime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finnally a new Chilean player

    • @spicy_shumai
      @spicy_shumai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao what a ignorant comment, they were always there. Being unable to attend every single one internacional event doesn't make them don't exist.

  • @AdmiralA
    @AdmiralA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "fighter's pass 2 user" lmao the shade

  • @arostelurio3153
    @arostelurio3153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how PGStats and the regular Panda channel compliment each other. Godlike output as a whole

  • @theflashgordon193
    @theflashgordon193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Playing steve and dunk hunt feel like been a jojo character or playing legend of zelda breath of the wild

  • @Mobeku
    @Mobeku 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The wii fit duck hunt edit got me laughing

  • @seanthadon2321
    @seanthadon2321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I forgot duck hunt was in the game

  • @dilph
    @dilph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The character is carried by Can. Not saying that any Duck Hunt players are carried by that move, in fact this character is carried by the players and not the other way around. It's just that Can saves Duck Hunt from being bottom tier. Really bad normals, lackluster aerials, and probably the worst set of smash attacks in the game. Also without Can covering Duck Hunt's recovery, gimping them would be free.
    Hats off to people who make this character work, especially at top level.

  • @AL-lh2ht
    @AL-lh2ht 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hot take: dog hunt has the best projectors and best projectile based character.

  • @coprophagichobo2377
    @coprophagichobo2377 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I play duck hunt on WII U, i love him.

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, really interesting video…although the title would make more sense with the “good” changed to “bad,” like said in the video.

  • @aperfectcreation
    @aperfectcreation 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hero laughs in Bounce

  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just the video I was looking for

  • @nadesomewhatasandwic
    @nadesomewhatasandwic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Due to mandatory regional reps does this mean sekkai doggo is essentially guarenteed a championship spot? If so then that's hype

    • @brualdasil2
      @brualdasil2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically, yeah. Because its the only platinum event in SA, the only other players who have a shot at the spot are meetleo and ferps (2ns and 3rd), and only if they get like top 2 in both the gold events here in SA, and if sekai doggo doesnt do super well in neither of those.

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there not more SA plat tournies?

    • @sekaidoggo7610
      @sekaidoggo7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sinfinite7516 nope

    • @sinfinite7516
      @sinfinite7516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sekaidoggo7610 wow congrats then!

  • @evilezergaming4954
    @evilezergaming4954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a duck hunt,terry,and mega man main i fan say that duck hunt mainly relies on gimmicks more then anything it’s more just making stuff up on the spot when fighting against a duck hubt

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Duck hunt is fun

  • @wasabisniffles
    @wasabisniffles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    sekai doggo is a Kingkiller fan and so Im his fan

  • @MeowModeFGC
    @MeowModeFGC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact that this is one of my least favorite videos on the pgstats channel (and yes I’ve seen everything to date from them) and it’s still good says something about the quality here.

  • @ScottFreeSBP
    @ScottFreeSBP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it ca be both....

  • @duskmantle2562
    @duskmantle2562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shit, Kowalski_023? That's the dude I got all my old Mii Brawler tech from, he used to be a Mii Brawler main but switched to Steve after he was released
    Glad to see he's doing well in tourney, and I highly recommend his TH-cam channel if you're looking for any Mii Brawler or Steve gameplay

  • @YurrWhat
    @YurrWhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:00 damn gotta admit, that back throw is wack af lmfao

  • @snomroms4749
    @snomroms4749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t ratio like place 4th at the biggest smash tournament ever. That counts as S tier right?

    • @tobiasterry7194
      @tobiasterry7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was Evo 2019 , and he got 5th, barely losing to glutonny in winners and crushed by mkleo in losers

  • @myboy_
    @myboy_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Fighting game community characters"

  • @valorousAV
    @valorousAV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    love ur vids

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hes built dif

  • @PancakeStew
    @PancakeStew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duck Hunt is my main ever since sm4sh. I've always been a fan of the gimmicky characters. Pac-Man is my secondary.

  • @dacrazypenguin7562
    @dacrazypenguin7562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Duck Hunt misinformation here is insane

  • @Cadesworth
    @Cadesworth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man said: South American nations like *C h e e l a y*
    great video tho

  • @MetalSonic28
    @MetalSonic28 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im think the dog is not good but not bad

  • @Dara-wk5ty
    @Dara-wk5ty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I doubt that.
    Other characters who camp and go in do a better job. I also don't think he's as fun as Steve and Steve is strictly better in a lot of ways.
    Steve is also a pretty common character in tournaments and having a bad matchup against him is pretty bad.

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can watch Duck Hunt do the Fortnite dance all day

  • @hououinkyouma5539
    @hououinkyouma5539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do hope we see more.
    Sadly Duck hunt seems like a worse Link

  • @asianboi3629
    @asianboi3629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conclusion: Both

  • @DewottFromYT
    @DewottFromYT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sog

  • @ogdu1380
    @ogdu1380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    154 entrants = major ?

  • @ufgonezo
    @ufgonezo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    vultures is def the best duck hunt dog main!!!!

  • @GenophefeElisabeth
    @GenophefeElisabeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DH mains like to go up to random dogs on the street and sniff their behinds

  • @silverview5244
    @silverview5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clay is frame 17- How is it frame 1?

    • @tobiasterry7194
      @tobiasterry7194 ปีที่แล้ว

      The clay pigeon spawns frame one, he doesnt fully throw it and is able to move out of the animation till frame 17 or something like that. For example, if you grab me on the same frame i start side b, the clay pigeon still flys toward you which can knock you out of your grab animation. Its more useful on the ground as a combo or grab breaking tool than in the air but thats where can comes into play as a panic option instead

  • @DedikateSSB
    @DedikateSSB 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duck Hunt is good and weird, the character can do too much to be bad.

  • @kuracyn
    @kuracyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    emboggers

  • @thikdikriky1559
    @thikdikriky1559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hunts got some cool stuff but my God the camping is very lame to watch sometimes. Glad he's not a commonly used character tbh.

  • @MugEdge8
    @MugEdge8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    MORE! ON the unpopular characters please. get this to 1K likes to show your support

  • @SuperNintendoChalmers096
    @SuperNintendoChalmers096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both

  • @sebz8362
    @sebz8362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good and weird

  • @thatsmattbaby
    @thatsmattbaby ปีที่แล้ว

    i main the fuck outta this character

  • @andrewtaylor5883
    @andrewtaylor5883 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hear me out...Isabelle is more than a Villager clone and needs a rep to show the potential as a different character. I'm not talking high tier I just feel like she can be pushed like Duck Hunt was!

    • @Koggers-th5fy
      @Koggers-th5fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If one has a good bracket sure but down B is unreliable, fast characters just run by it like it doesnt exist and also are a hard matchup for isabelle

    • @timg1454
      @timg1454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's Jaka in europe who has been making waves recently

  • @captainfalconmain6576
    @captainfalconmain6576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:08 not a major

  • @peter1052
    @peter1052 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @echospace7347
    @echospace7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they shouldnt have nerfed him so hard

  • @DavionLane
    @DavionLane 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duck hunt beat steve

  • @underbandit2372
    @underbandit2372 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duckhunt is like wash down Pac-Man. He has some of the interesting combo setups like Pac-Man…yet doesn’t have the most useful moves like Pac-Man beside the can really and arguably the forward tilt.

  • @carldalord
    @carldalord 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    He’s a mid tier, that’s all

  • @Winduct
    @Winduct 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duck Hunt sucks. And I'm an Elite Duck Hunt main. But, I think he's one of the very few characters that people don't know how to play against (like Olimar, Ice Climber and Rosalina & Luma). I honestly can't believe how this guy won a whole championship with him.

  • @Catcrossarms
    @Catcrossarms 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sog

  • @CramHuntsCryptids
    @CramHuntsCryptids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    sog